From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 01 23:25:12 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfU6x-0008Ry-28; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:23:27 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfU6v-0008Or-EX for ops-area@ietf.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:23:25 -0500 Received: from mgw-ext13.nokia.com ([131.228.20.172]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfU6t-0004R1-0N for ops-area@ietf.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:23:25 -0500 Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext13.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id kA24NLaM006294 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:23:22 +0200 Received: from esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.28]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:23:21 +0200 Received: from dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com ([172.19.74.161]) by esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:23:19 +0200 Received: from dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id kA24NJ5P004523 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:23:19 -0800 Received: (from david@localhost) by dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id kA24NFM1004522 for ops-area@ietf.org; Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:23:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:23:15 -0800 From: David Kessens To: ops-area@ietf.org Message-ID: <20061102042315.GD4219@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2006 04:23:19.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[A047B1A0:01C6FE36] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::061102062322-094F7BB0-00B8000A/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Subject: [OPS-AREA] Open Office hours during next IETF meeting X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org We have decided to hold two open office hour sessions during the IETF week: TUESDAY 15:20-17:20 Ops & Management Area Office Hour WEDNESDAY 14:00-16.10 Ops & Management Area Office Hour We don't have a room allocation yet. We will let you know in a separate mail as soon as we know. Anybody is welcome to come to our office hour to share his/her concerns, to give us comments on how we can improve management of the area, to ask general IETF related questions or to give you a chance to get to know us a little bit. See you in San Diego! David & Dan --- _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 05 19:54:04 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggsiz-00087W-JE; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:52:29 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggsiy-00087Q-HE for ops-area@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:52:28 -0500 Received: from mgw-ext11.nokia.com ([131.228.20.170]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggsix-0004lV-1m for ops-area@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:52:28 -0500 Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-ext11.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id kA60ptV5029915 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:52:26 +0200 Received: from esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.28]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:52:04 +0200 Received: from dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com ([172.19.74.161]) by esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:52:03 +0200 Received: from dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id kA60q28h027497 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:52:03 -0800 Received: (from david@localhost) by dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id kA60q2UX027496 for ops-area@ietf.org; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:52:02 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:52:02 -0800 From: David Kessens To: ops-area@ietf.org Message-ID: <20061106005202.GA27452@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2006 00:52:04.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6D83740:01C7013D] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c1c65599517f9ac32519d043c37c5336 Subject: [OPS-AREA] [david.kessens@nokia.com: Open Office hours during next IETF meeting] X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org We now know the location for our Office Hours: TUESDAY 15:20-17:20 Executive Center Room 2A - Ops & Management Area Office Hour WEDNESDAY 14:00-16.10 Executive Center Room 2B - Ops & Management Area Office Hour We hope this helps, David & Dan --- ----- Forwarded message from David Kessens ----- Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:23:15 -0800 From: David Kessens To: ops-area@ietf.org Subject: Open Office hours during next IETF meeting User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i We have decided to hold two open office hour sessions during the IETF week: TUESDAY 15:20-17:20 Ops & Management Area Office Hour WEDNESDAY 14:00-16.10 Ops & Management Area Office Hour We don't have a room allocation yet. We will let you know in a separate mail as soon as we know. Anybody is welcome to come to our office hour to share his/her concerns, to give us comments on how we can improve management of the area, to ask general IETF related questions or to give you a chance to get to know us a little bit. See you in San Diego! David & Dan --- ----- End forwarded message ----- _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 05 19:59:05 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggsoh-0003B2-9b; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:58:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggsof-0003Aj-Uk for ops-area@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:58:21 -0500 Received: from mgw-ext14.nokia.com ([131.228.20.173]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggsoe-0005TW-Fy for ops-area@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:58:21 -0500 Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh107.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.143]) by mgw-ext14.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id kA60wALn015662 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:58:17 +0200 Received: from esebh002.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.77]) by esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:58:16 +0200 Received: from dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com ([172.19.74.161]) by esebh002.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:58:16 +0200 Received: from dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id kA60wESE027579 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:58:14 -0800 Received: (from david@localhost) by dadhcp-172019074161.americas.nokia.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id kA60wES4027578 for ops-area@ietf.org; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:58:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:58:14 -0800 From: David Kessens To: Operations and Management Area Message-ID: <20061106005814.GA27508@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2006 00:58:16.0792 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4CE1D80:01C7013E] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::061106025817-3CFA1BB0-6AC98DEB/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 Subject: [OPS-AREA] My availability for a new term as Operations & Management Area Director X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Many people have approached me and asked the question whether I am available for a new term as one of the Operations & Management Area Directors. I have no problem answering this question but I personally felt a bit uncomfortable with answering this question in a private setting as some people get to know the answer while others are kept in the dark. To avoid such situations, I would like to let you know that I am available for another term as Operations & Management Area Director. I hope this helps, David Kessens --- _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 06 04:55:31 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh1BD-0003Xp-JP; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:54:11 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh1BC-0003Xk-HU for ops-area@ietf.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:54:10 -0500 Received: from web57811.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([68.142.236.89]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh1B7-0004Ki-OW for ops-area@ietf.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:54:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 34095 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2006 09:54:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YdpjdBMRDaBODxxyOvY9sVyNd38lEEm6L+NmOdbzWQ83IjXHRYI+xr7z+FlxfDyWIDsr1ErZcn2oksZHSFvq6W/fKiemoi8SkSuG6kGIms5FAbrP5g1xbK60vlvCs1E5wdA5VZIsHr7gPvnvustQIvZOd+rR6IJXlECCziJYEpc= ; Message-ID: <20061106095400.34090.qmail@web57811.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [59.145.122.252] by web57811.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:54:00 PST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Senthil raj To: ops-area@ietf.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a8a20a483a84f747e56475e290ee868e Subject: [OPS-AREA] Doubt regarding mDNS0.7G X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1750922100==" Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org --===============1750922100== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1644372317-1162806840=:32394" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1644372317-1162806840=:32394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I am new user to mDNS area. I installed the mDNS 0.7G available in http://dotlocal.org/mdnsd. I would like to how I can add a new serive using mhttp in mDNS0.7G and request for a new service using mquery in mDNS 0.7G Looking for your help. Regards, Senthil T ops-area-request@ietf.org wrote: Welcome to the OPS-AREA@ietf.org mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: ops-area@ietf.org General information about the mailing list is at: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area ********************************************************************** Note Well Any submission to the IETF intended by the Contributor for publication as all or part of an IETF Internet-Draft or RFC and any statement made within the context of an IETF activity is considered an "IETF Contribution". 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Hi,
I am new user to mDNS area.
I installed the mDNS 0.7G available in http://dotlocal.org/mdnsd.   
I would like to how I can add a new serive using mhttp in mDNS0.7G
and request  for a new service using mquery in  mDNS 0.7G
 
Looking for your help.
 
Regards,
Senthil T
 


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Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-1644372317-1162806840=:32394-- --===============1750922100== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area --===============1750922100==-- From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 06 15:29:21 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhB5L-0004wb-8Y; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:28:47 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhB5J-0004wN-Rj; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com ([135.245.0.37]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhB5G-0003SU-Gu; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:28:43 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id kA6KSWGp027822; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:28:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:28:32 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B1550AEB7B32@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: "C. M. Heard" , mib-doctors@ietf.org Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:28:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6e922792024732fb1bb6f346e63517e4 Cc: ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [MIB-DOCTORS] FW: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplat e X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Sorry for my late reaction. IF we do an RFC at all, I would just do a complete replacement for RFC4181, so we have ALL our guidelines in one single document. It is difficult for people to find all sort of SETs of document that update each other. An erratum (or whatever we can do instead on the OPS area web pages) is fine with me too. Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: C. M. Heard [mailto:heard@pobox.com] > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 22:13 > To: mib-doctors@ietf.org > Cc: ops-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] FW: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC > Boilerplate > > > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > ... > > From: IETF Chair [mailto:chair@ietf.org] > > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 3:20 AM > > To: IETF Announcement list > > Subject: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplate > > > > A small update to BCP 78 was recently approved by the IESG > as RFC 4748, > > to update the boilerplate (i.e., standard legal text) in RFCs and > > Internet-Drafts to recognize the IETF Trust as a rights > holder, instead > > of ISOC. > ... > > In MIB modules, PIB modules and similar material commonly > > extracted from IETF Documents, except for material > that is being > > placed under IANA maintenance, the following > abbreviated notice > > shall be included in the body of the material that will be > > extracted in lieu of the notices otherwise required > by Section 5: > > > > OLD > > "Copyright (C) The Internet Society . This > version of > > this MIB module is part of RFC XXXX; see the RFC itself for > > full legal notices." > > > > NEW > > "Copyright (C) The IETF Trust . This version of > > this MIB module is part of RFC XXXX; see the RFC itself for > > full legal notices." > > > > When the MIB or PIB module is the initial version of > a module that > > is to be maintained by the IANA, the following > abbreviated notice > > shall be included: > > > > OLD > > "Copyright (C) The Internet Society . The initial > > version of this MIB module was published in RFC > XXXX; for full > > legal notices see the RFC itself. Supplementary > information > > may be available at: > > http://www.ietf.org/copyrights/ianamib.html." > > > > NEW > > "Copyright (C) The IETF Trust . The initial > > version of this MIB module was published in RFC > XXXX; for full > > legal notices see the RFC itself. Supplementary > information > > may be available at: > > http://www.ietf.org/copyrights/ianamib.html." > > Note that this obsoletes Section 3.7 of RFC 4181 (mib review > guidelines). I was asleep at the switch when 4748 was last-called; > I should have asked for that document to update BCP 111 also. > > Anyway, it looks like we probably need to update RFC 4181. I can't > serve as editor anymore. Any takers? I do have some minor errata > that haven't been posted on the RFC Editor or OPS web site; I can > easily fish those out of my archives and send them to whoever takes > over. > > Mike Heard > > P.S. If 4181 ever does get re-issued it would be a good idea to try > to insulate it from the seemingly endless churn in the IPR documents > (i.e., 3878, 3879, 4748, and their successors). > > > _______________________________________________ > MIB-DOCTORS mailing list > MIB-DOCTORS@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mib-doctors > _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 06 20:42:40 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhFxq-00066w-EM; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:41:22 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhFxo-00066K-H3; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:41:20 -0500 Received: from shell4.bayarea.net ([209.128.82.1]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhFxn-000305-5s; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:41:20 -0500 Received: from shell4.bayarea.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell4.bayarea.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kA71evQM025828; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:40:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (heard@localhost) by shell4.bayarea.net (8.13.6/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id kA71es1b025802; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:40:57 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.bayarea.net: heard owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:40:54 -0800 (PST) From: "C. M. Heard" X-Sender: heard@shell4.bayarea.net To: MIB DOctors In-Reply-To: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B1550AEB7B32@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9182cfff02fae4f1b6e9349e01d62f32 Cc: OPS Area Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [MIB-DOCTORS] FW: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplate X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: > Sorry for my late reaction. > > IF we do an RFC at all, I would just do a complete replacement > for RFC4181, so we have ALL our guidelines in one single > document. It is difficult for people to find all sort of SETs of > document that update each other. > > An erratum (or whatever we can do instead on the OPS area web > pages) is fine with me too. For the benefit of the folks on the ops-area list who have not seen the preceding discussion on the mib-doctors list, I proposed writing a very short RFC to update 4181, the meat of which was this: | In the copyright notice templates in Section 3.7, replace all | occurrences of "The Internet Society" with "The IETF Trust". In answer to Bert's comments, I don't have a problem with doing a complete re-issue of 4181, provided that someone else is willing to serve as editor. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do the job. Mike _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 09 22:26:38 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiN0i-0007sh-3k; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:24:56 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiN0h-0007rz-6Q for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:24:55 -0500 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiMtz-0000Tx-9f for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:18:00 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kAA3HjDX000503 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:17:46 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:17:45 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccEdsnHAEUN6PFMSTemK54ppbpM4w== From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: Subject: [OPS-AREA] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Juergen and myself would like to capitalize on the work done in nmrg and the two-days workshop of NMRG recently hold in Utrecht. We suggest that we hold a joint meeting of the OPS area and NMRG at ietf-68 in Prague. We intent to encourage the participation of researchers in the field of network management in order to present their work and proposals, and explain some of the concepts that they are working at which are less known in the broader OPS and Management community. The goal is to summarize what came out of the Utrecht meeting and explain using a few examples where research is heading, seek feedback and discuss ways to ignite new work in the area.=20 =20 Dan _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 09 22:37:46 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiND8-0008Gm-6D; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:37:46 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNAK-0005cW-UQ for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:34:52 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNAJ-0005Nt-I1 for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:34:52 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2006 19:34:51 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,407,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="67819:sNHT62718003" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAA3Yp29009396; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:34:51 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kAA3YoW4009443; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.98]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:34:50 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:34:49 -0800 Message-ID: <6B9C4B97B82F924485E26968EB05A6EE0257BB89@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccEdsnHAEUN6PFMSTemK54ppbpM4wAAKZ1Q From: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" To: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2006 03:34:50.0800 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DB8FB00:01C70479] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1937; t=1163129691; x=1163993691; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=pdini@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Petre=20Dini=20\(pdini\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[nmrg]=20Looking=20ahead=20to=20Prague |Sender:=20; bh=2Ibq1CPj18T5FY6Y0KQp/iKwFsEaOvJ5we+sKr8s8lc=; b=LD/uohkfPWhYa5a9989FRTQ8hz7SGtuKGLyhmRr9GJkBVcG+M4GjEqdvBqRfxLZyoQB5mTlF DNdT53TDmdiKlAzrMLPahErwyTdyUiSlBbDGCm74DC4aZKSYdUSShn5C; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=pdini@cisco.com; dkim=pass (s ig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4adaf050708fb13be3316a9eee889caa X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:37:45 -0500 Cc: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Dan, Juergen, all, As an output of our Utrecht meeting, it was question that a document will be edited, with our common contributions, and publicized. Definitively, I see this document could be the basis for the OPS/NMRG meeting in Prague; I plan to attend it. So, I urge we settle something to finalize it.=20 Not sure on the last statement; post-Uthrecht it was the ManWeek conference [Dublin], where a large spectrum of detailed on progress work was presented. I can report that, in general, the topics turned around the same topics we discussed in Uthrect.=20 :) actually, Jurgen, Olivier, Rolf, Petre, Danny, et al were present too in Dublin. Petre -----Original Message----- From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:18 PM To: ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Juergen and myself would like to capitalize on the work done in nmrg and the two-days workshop of NMRG recently hold in Utrecht. We suggest that we hold a joint meeting of the OPS area and NMRG at ietf-68 in Prague. We intent to encourage the participation of researchers in the field of network management in order to present their work and proposals, and explain some of the concepts that they are working at which are less known in the broader OPS and Management community. The goal is to summarize what came out of the Utrecht meeting and explain using a few examples where research is heading, seek feedback and discuss ways to ignite new work in the area.=20 =20 Dan -- !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message to !! or look at http://agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 09 22:40:51 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNG7-000112-H6; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:40:51 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNG5-000107-NY for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:40:49 -0500 Received: from co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.13.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNG4-0006US-CE for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:40:49 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kAA3ekKj024280 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:40:47 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:40:45 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccEdsnHAEUN6PFMSTemK54ppbpM4wAAKZ1QAAB8apA= From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" , , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0fa76816851382eb71b0a882ccdc29ac Cc: Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Thanks Petre. I was not clear, by 'new work in the area' I had in mind the OPS area in the IETF. I know that there is a lot of interesting work going in research, I believe that it would be useful to raise the awareness the OPS and management community about part of it and see how those could be used to meet some of the operational needs in the Internet.=20 Sure, we shall be preparing that document we talked about in Utrecht and have it ready before Prague. I would be glad to contribute to it with the perspective of the IETF OPS area, is there any volunteer to hold the pen?=20 Dan =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Petre Dini (pdini) [mailto:pdini@cisco.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Cc: Petre Dini (pdini) > Subject: RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague >=20 > Dan, Juergen, all, >=20 > As an output of our Utrecht meeting, it was question that a=20 > document will be edited, with our common contributions, and=20 > publicized. > Definitively, I see this document could be the basis for the=20 > OPS/NMRG meeting in Prague; I plan to attend it. So, I urge=20 > we settle something to finalize it.=20 >=20 > Not sure on the last statement; post-Uthrecht it was the=20 > ManWeek conference [Dublin], where a large spectrum of=20 > detailed on progress work was presented. I can report that,=20 > in general, the topics turned around the same topics we=20 > discussed in Uthrect.=20 >=20 > :) actually, Jurgen, Olivier, Rolf, Petre, Danny, et al were=20 > present too in Dublin. > Petre >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de=20 > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] > On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:18 PM > To: ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague >=20 >=20 > Juergen and myself would like to capitalize on the work done=20 > in nmrg and the two-days workshop of NMRG recently hold in=20 > Utrecht. We suggest that we hold a joint meeting of the OPS=20 > area and NMRG at ietf-68 in Prague. > We intent to encourage the participation of researchers in=20 > the field of network management in order to present their=20 > work and proposals, and explain some of the concepts that=20 > they are working at which are less known in the broader OPS=20 > and Management community. The goal is to summarize what came=20 > out of the Utrecht meeting and explain using a few examples=20 > where research is heading, seek feedback and discuss ways to=20 > ignite new work in the area.=20 > =20 > Dan >=20 >=20 > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To=20 > unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message=20 > to !! or look at=20 > http://agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. >=20 _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 10 11:42:22 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiZRl-0006kJ-Oz; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:41:41 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNvL-0001TT-JM for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:23:27 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiNvK-0005hb-59 for ops-area@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:23:27 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2006 20:23:25 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,407,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="92399:sNHT65478411" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAA4NPbT017961; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:23:25 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kAA4NPin011684; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.98]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:23:25 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:23:24 -0800 Message-ID: <6B9C4B97B82F924485E26968EB05A6EE0257BB96@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccEdsnHAEUN6PFMSTemK54ppbpM4wAAKZ1QAAB8apAAAXJ54A== From: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" To: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2006 04:23:25.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6DEC220:01C7047F] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3725; t=1163132605; x=1163996605; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=pdini@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Petre=20Dini=20\(pdini\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[nmrg]=20Looking=20ahead=20to=20Prague |Sender:=20; bh=NkJYREIzQrpLvOrOzddZ9bnmSqKWPOKuAPZmrMwiL0M=; b=NkHrS+e1VXWMFK/eLd9BUlXbLcKhOoX2wllrYRUU3+bn6k5u90dYgThfsKBygr8LGrNR/mfx jxXKB8VKAlX9FtknoSA1ISo+dvekm3X3Y7T0ohjnUDPWvVffBXef+4Iq; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=pdini@cisco.com; dkim=pass (s ig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a8a20a483a84f747e56475e290ee868e X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:41:40 -0500 Cc: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Dan, Thanks! I got it now. I can be one of them; we need 3-4 volunteers working during the winter holidays. I think that Jurgen can take the lead on a draft. Note that I chaired a panel in DSOM 2006 [post-Utrecht] on the same topics; therefore, on the research side, things got reacher, in terms of perspective, achievements, open issues, challenges. We can complement our discussions in Utrecht with aspects discussed in the panel as well.=20 Best, -- Petre -----Original Message----- From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:41 PM To: Petre Dini (pdini); ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thanks Petre. I was not clear, by 'new work in the area' I had in mind the OPS area in the IETF. I know that there is a lot of interesting work going in research, I believe that it would be useful to raise the awareness the OPS and management community about part of it and see how those could be used to meet some of the operational needs in the Internet.=20 Sure, we shall be preparing that document we talked about in Utrecht and have it ready before Prague. I would be glad to contribute to it with the perspective of the IETF OPS area, is there any volunteer to hold the pen?=20 Dan =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Petre Dini (pdini) [mailto:pdini@cisco.com] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Cc: Petre Dini (pdini) > Subject: RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague >=20 > Dan, Juergen, all, >=20 > As an output of our Utrecht meeting, it was question that a document=20 > will be edited, with our common contributions, and publicized. > Definitively, I see this document could be the basis for the OPS/NMRG=20 > meeting in Prague; I plan to attend it. So, I urge we settle something > to finalize it. >=20 > Not sure on the last statement; post-Uthrecht it was the ManWeek=20 > conference [Dublin], where a large spectrum of detailed on progress=20 > work was presented. I can report that, in general, the topics turned=20 > around the same topics we discussed in Uthrect. >=20 > :) actually, Jurgen, Olivier, Rolf, Petre, Danny, et al were present=20 > too in Dublin. > Petre >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] > On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:18 PM > To: ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague >=20 >=20 > Juergen and myself would like to capitalize on the work done in nmrg=20 > and the two-days workshop of NMRG recently hold in Utrecht. We suggest > that we hold a joint meeting of the OPS area and NMRG at ietf-68 in=20 > Prague. > We intent to encourage the participation of researchers in the field=20 > of network management in order to present their work and proposals,=20 > and explain some of the concepts that they are working at which are=20 > less known in the broader OPS and Management community. The goal is to > summarize what came out of the Utrecht meeting and explain using a few > examples where research is heading, seek feedback and discuss ways to=20 > ignite new work in the area. > =20 > Dan >=20 >=20 > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe=20 > or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message to=20 > !! or look at=20 > http://agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. >=20 _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 10 13:50:54 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GibSE-0003V4-FR; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:50:18 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GibJB-0006by-Fp for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:40:57 -0500 Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gib78-0004MQ-SC for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:28:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6997C5AF0F; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:28:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30933-09; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:28:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from boskop.local (unknown [10.222.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED35D5AF1C; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:28:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0FD3C8C363D; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:28:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:28:25 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "Petre Dini (pdini)" Message-ID: <20061110182825.GD11161@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: "Petre Dini (pdini)" , "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , ops-area@ietf.org, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: <6B9C4B97B82F924485E26968EB05A6EE0257BB96@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6B9C4B97B82F924485E26968EB05A6EE0257BB96@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at iu-bremen.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:50:17 -0500 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] Re: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:23:24PM -0800, Petre Dini (pdini) wrote: > I can be one of them; we need 3-4 volunteers working during the winter > holidays. I think that Jurgen can take the lead on a draft. I started to work on a structure in order to organize things but it is likely that most of the writing will not be done before the winter holidays. But yes, we should have a reasonably structured document well before the Prague IETF meeting. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen (Jacobs University Bremen as of Spring 2007) P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 10 14:27:07 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gic1R-0003Kk-So; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:26:41 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gic0z-0003B3-UD for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:26:13 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gibpn-0003Kz-PH for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:14:41 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2006 11:13:45 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,410,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="342637190:sNHT5205623506" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAAJDaWb021948; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:13:36 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kAAJDaio006561; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.98]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:13:36 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:13:35 -0800 Message-ID: <6B9C4B97B82F924485E26968EB05A6EE0257BCF2@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccE9guHjpMrd4CGTtaXC2MhmJe+wgABeh6Q From: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2006 19:13:36.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[52448380:01C704FC] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1115; t=1163186016; x=1164050016; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=pdini@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Petre=20Dini=20\(pdini\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[nmrg]=20Looking=20ahead=20to=20Prague |Sender:=20; bh=aFfqJnxAVw32bm1VE6YnTS/qtGXkdeWon+xewE0uvms=; b=exyIOrk22+9afHZQid8lzHUL50WweTpC2NrVG1jQJQa97si6axX7ITq+hX4dz21twHoesDj2 dZ+A91F8YvRnHoKOzJkjrKAWVA9SgVLObH73lNi100k9Ll2G6bODKhjs; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=pdini@cisco.com; dkim=pass (s ig from cisco.com/sjdkim1002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Jurgen, This is good start. Please share it timely to have appropriate input and time to polish it then. :) yes, winter holidays seem appropriate. -- petre -----Original Message----- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de]=20 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:28 AM To: Petre Dini (pdini) Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); ops-area@ietf.org; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: Re: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:23:24PM -0800, Petre Dini (pdini) wrote: =20 > I can be one of them; we need 3-4 volunteers working during the winter > holidays. I think that Jurgen can take the lead on a draft. I started to work on a structure in order to organize things but it is likely that most of the writing will not be done before the winter holidays. But yes, we should have a reasonably structured document well before the Prague IETF meeting. /js --=20 Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen (Jacobs University Bremen as of Spring 2007) P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 10 16:36:50 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gie2d-00013i-5m; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:36:03 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gie2c-00011W-Cu for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:36:02 -0500 Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gie2a-0007SO-2P for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:36:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B15F5AEF0; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:35:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10228-03; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:35:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from boskop.local (unknown [10.222.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DF25AF06; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:35:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id E8E8C8C3CF0; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:35:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:35:50 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Eliot Lear Message-ID: <20061110213550.GB11579@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: Eliot Lear , "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ops-area@ietf.org References: <4554EDE4.6090302@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4554EDE4.6090302@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at iu-bremen.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] Re: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 01:23:48PM -0800, Eliot Lear wrote: > Dan, > > If there is to be a joint meeting at the Prague IETF, what length are we > talking about? Two hours or two days? I am not sure what Dan's ideas are, but we could have a joint session in a normal IETF meeting slot (say two hours) where we provide an overview and initiate interaction followed by a longer NMRG meeting scheduled for say Friday where we would have more time to dive into details. In general, I think ideas and suggestions are more than welcome at this stage of the planning. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen (Jacobs University Bremen as of Spring 2007) P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 10 17:03:54 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GieSj-0002YO-0h; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:03:01 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GieSh-0002Xc-MJ for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:02:59 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GieSg-0004HY-86 for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:02:59 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2006 14:02:19 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,410,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="342747519:sNHT4569227440" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAAM2KPJ004495; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:02:20 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kAAM2Jis010125; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.98]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:02:19 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:02:18 -0800 Message-ID: <6B9C4B97B82F924485E26968EB05A6EE0257BD8D@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccFEHXwngf6FzvXRk6W6/Q1ZaSbrwAAuAgA From: "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" To: , "Eliot Lear" , "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2006 22:02:19.0523 (UTC) FILETIME=[E43F7530:01C70513] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1757; t=1163196140; x=1164060140; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=pdini@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Petre=20Dini=20\(pdini\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[nmrg]=20Looking=20ahead=20to=20Prague |Sender:=20; bh=/iE9OwdIYouJ6032DBdpbk8CRCxW40Vinlxiqm5tNhk=; b=fsOVJ7iG1zxeXJKflHaL4n7+BiPClS16qe+5vg3JirY39KyNfCENUd9i55BJGcTJrwcqA2m2 /oGC3gFHtFIZ5IOc2vBqXqvuRvgpZiBQ9cRgULft5JwlwCaTW1XZoCko; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=pdini@cisco.com; dkim=pass (s ig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0ddefe323dd869ab027dbfff7eff0465 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, "Petre Dini \(pdini\)" , ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Jurgen, Let us have a call first to see how many will be willing to present. I presume that 1/2 day can be useful, as there is a context setting too. I estimate that only for the Utrecht and post-Utrecht discussions we need 2 hours.=20 I agree that we should know a little in advance how many will intent to present their research. -- Petre =20 -----Original Message----- From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: Eliot Lear Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de; ops-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 01:23:48PM -0800, Eliot Lear wrote: > Dan, >=20 > If there is to be a joint meeting at the Prague IETF, what length are=20 > we talking about? Two hours or two days? I am not sure what Dan's ideas are, but we could have a joint session in a normal IETF meeting slot (say two hours) where we provide an overview and initiate interaction followed by a longer NMRG meeting scheduled for say Friday where we would have more time to dive into details. In general, I think ideas and suggestions are more than welcome at this stage of the planning. /js --=20 Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen (Jacobs University Bremen as of Spring 2007) P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany -- !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message to !! or look at http://agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 10 18:07:51 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GifSe-0007vD-JD; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:07:00 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gidqk-0004Ep-TZ for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:23:46 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gidqj-0004aD-LM for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:23:46 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2006 13:23:45 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,410,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="342721372:sNHT88036592" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kAALNiS1002977; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:23:44 -0800 Received: from imail.cisco.com (sjc12-sbr-sw3-3f5.cisco.com [172.19.96.182]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kAALNiin028457; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.224.11.28] ([10.21.90.167]) by imail.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id kAALAFcL025467; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:10:16 -0800 Message-ID: <4554EDE4.6090302@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:23:48 -0800 From: Eliot Lear User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Macintosh/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=132; t=1163193825; x=1164057825; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim2002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=lear@cisco.com; z=From:=20Eliot=20Lear=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[nmrg]=20Looking=20ahead=20to=20Prague |Sender:=20; bh=bq7rfmqa1PyXdUsW/UN6iJw3Q3E1IZ3QEbd4mwYJTuI=; b=TPSB4HGCm1IBZXb6dwpBWMYMlpsy1fuAqMeOQBlxP2iZPjeSMedSmpLwi+WVgGHAXtQZuSZ2 FrAfK7HgbYkCCq40teUayjmmL8PC83jT/SE6cTXp3/VQ/JHbqHnqwSEv; DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=132; t=1163193017; x=1164057017; c=relaxed/simple; s=oregon; h=To:Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=lear@cisco.com; z=From:=20Eliot=20Lear=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[nmrg]=20Looking=20ahead=20to=20Prague |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Romascanu,=20Dan=20\(Dan\)=22=20; bh=bq7rfmqa1PyXdUsW/UN6iJw3Q3E1IZ3QEbd4mwYJTuI=; b=Cngn1eHWliAaUzJ0YsXpTrBfh9BAUjBzzuwlE4VRFVWhGkvfbUsRExGGUrMzjAOWtOqnPsvp 5NizsZtGYTMMShewTq8viwgyY7YChLYwDcch6dxFdyAgryXBxX5l+bGj; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=lear@cisco.com; dkim=pass (si g from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); header.From=lear@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/oregon verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8ac499381112328dd60aea5b1ff596ea X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:06:59 -0500 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] Re: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Dan, If there is to be a joint meeting at the Prague IETF, what length are we talking about? Two hours or two days? Eliot _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 11 01:35:49 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GimRr-0003Vp-Tm; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:34:39 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GimRq-0003Vj-SI for ops-area@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:34:38 -0500 Received: from co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.13.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GimRj-0005lD-NW for ops-area@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:34:38 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kAB6YUeI009231 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:34:30 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:34:28 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague Thread-Index: AccFEGGzcuiEqN0cR/SjcUmy898M9gASnMsg From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: , "Eliot Lear" X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4adaf050708fb13be3316a9eee889caa Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ops-area@ietf.org Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org My initial thoughts were for one joint meeting, during the IETF week, 2 or 2.5 hours. The added value of such a meeting would be in the participation of the OPS area IETF community and the dialog that we hope to ignite between nmrg and OPS .=20 As Juergen says, this is the phase of brainstorming, other ideas and suggestions are welcome.=20 Dan =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de]=20 > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:36 PM > To: Eliot Lear > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de; ops-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [nmrg] Looking ahead to Prague >=20 > On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 01:23:48PM -0800, Eliot Lear wrote: > > Dan, > >=20 > > If there is to be a joint meeting at the Prague IETF, what=20 > length are=20 > > we talking about? Two hours or two days? >=20 > I am not sure what Dan's ideas are, but we could have a joint=20 > session in a normal IETF meeting slot (say two hours) where=20 > we provide an overview and initiate interaction followed by a=20 > longer NMRG meeting scheduled for say Friday where we would=20 > have more time to dive into details. >=20 > In general, I think ideas and suggestions are more than=20 > welcome at this stage of the planning. >=20 > /js >=20 > --=20 > Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen > (Jacobs University Bremen as=20 > of Spring 2007) > P.O. Box 750 561,=20 > 28725 Bremen, Germany >=20 _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 13 13:32:31 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjgas-0002NV-17; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:31:42 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjgaq-0002NK-VM for ops-area@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:31:40 -0500 Received: from outbound-mail.lax.untd.com ([64.136.28.164]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjgap-00025a-G8 for ops-area@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:31:40 -0500 Received: from webmail04.lax.untd.com (webmail04.lax.untd.com [10.131.27.144]) by smtpout03.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCXTQSBAP626E2 for (sender ); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:31:29 -0800 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: AcganUYbgVGZ0C6nm/9IPatablCmMCeK4flHqg95TS3pNS9cw+QVew== Received: (from fergdawg@netzero.net) by webmail04.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id L63YFS74; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:31:05 PST Received: from [168.61.0.42] by webmail04.lax.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:30:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.61.0.42] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Fergie" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:30:26 GMT To: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20061113.103105.28.1437089@webmail04.lax.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 16:8:2501324113 X-MAIL-INFO: 0a0991a4099991a199f9a1a5d0f0b48d9514358125d54040f5e189e18439b58d5591548d41a139315129906051d56d347de0601560e571bde57569e9710c7599c9105169cd6dc40cc990fd00cd9d80c0c0a9bde07429bd01d9bd75b1e191b0e109709109a591a1a5f9d9813049ddeded00a900113125944d4d79c445c17d39f5313db5b491859109a514b0a49199b92974d929c0e574c04974f04915dd7dfd34041919cd65cd9d80c5b16464e01141a0a9e0adc005e9c051e0743149a00c294df9b0091d50b05050d0f9a5f414710d0d3500b10de130f4408d31edb53d3db055b47009 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.131.27.144|webmail04.lax.untd.com|webmail04.lax.untd.com|fergdawg@netzero.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a Subject: [OPS-AREA] RFC2827-bis comments solicitation X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org First, sorry for any duplicates, but we wanted to reach all interested parties. After several discussions with many different folks last week at IETF 67 in San Diego, as well as various people over the course of the past few months, Dan Senie and I have decided to undertake an effort to "update" RFC2827/BCP38 [1]. I know that I'm not the only person who has heard various discussions in the past couple of years that concluded that (paraphrased), "BCP38 needs to be updated." Now is your chance to speak up. :-) We would very much like to solicit comments & suggestions from the community-at-large on areas where you feel BCP38 is lacking, or in areas where you feel it does not properly address with regards to prohibiting source-spoofed traffic from any given administrative network boundary, given that some technical aspects of the Internet may have changed since it's publication. While we acknowledge that a uniform application of a source address verification architecture/ingress filtering scheme will not mitigate _all_ "unwanted traffic" [2] in the Internet, it will most certainly address the issue of hosts which attempt to source-spoof traffic into the Internet. I have not set up a mailing list for this yet, but if there is enough discussion/input, I will make an effort to do so (or perhaps the SAVA mailing list [3] might be a good place for discussion). In the interim, you can contact me or Dan directly: Paul Ferguson: fergdawg(at)netzero.net Dan Senie: dts(at)senie.com Thanks, fergie & dan p.s. Also, for anyone who might be interesting in related work, there is an effort to bring some additional work into the IETF called SAVA, or Source Address Validation Architecture [4]. [1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2827.txt [2] http://www.iab.org/about/workshops/unwantedtraffic/index.html [3] http://www.nrc.tsinghua.edu.cn/mailman/listinfo/sava [4] http://www.nrc.tsinghua.edu.cn/pipermail/sava/2006-September/000004.html= -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 17 13:52:02 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8nq-0006M1-6g; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:51:06 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8no-0006Lv-8S for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:51:04 -0500 Received: from outbound-mail.lax.untd.com ([64.136.28.164]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8nk-0002BF-36 for ops-area@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:51:04 -0500 Received: from webmail53.lax.untd.com (webmail53.lax.untd.com [10.131.27.193]) by smtpout02.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCX6BEEAW2MQZS for (sender ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: AcganUYbgVGZ0C6nm/9IPatablCmMCeKgHURra7melofJW/+OaU/ow== Received: (from fergdawg@netzero.net) by webmail53.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id L7EA5QNM; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:50:13 PST Received: from [168.61.0.42] by webmail53.lax.untd.com with HTTP: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:49:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.61.0.42] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Fergie" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:49:52 GMT To: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20061117.105013.717.1003510@webmail53.lax.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 31:15:1664305257 X-MAIL-INFO: 4f11b59d11d9b579d90479146050c4214501899499a11d1d401930194d55392184b54121cd79557de559e170e5a10dbd44f070c9708d75a98d512d61753151d9ad20e52da50d0931ade19535a52900f1f1d1a9f04959a9c0f9a951b419b534191185b51114b5791404f9946dd0c1dddd35d135547d9905d4d43809f45d4455407d1539c4b590b5111401349db5d93d5949f959f18d49f1d04950d0c9c14495bdb19191a564a5290081b41010f054cda0d1f0e4f1e061f1e5f0497dd0a03159d40434117471347171600414f50175a4a48935b4a4196df51d217ddd3915153484c48511 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.131.27.193|webmail53.lax.untd.com|webmail53.lax.untd.com|fergdawg@netzero.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1a1bf7677bfe77d8af1ebe0e91045c5b Subject: [OPS-AREA] ietf-bcp38bis mailing list [Was: RFC2827-bis comments solicitation] X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As a follow-up to my previous message re: "RFC2827-bis comments solicitation", we now have a dedicated mailing list for discussion of bringing BCP38 up-to-date: [snip] ietf-bcp38bis mailing list The ietf-bcp38bis mailing list is for discussing an update to BCP 38, "Network Ingress Filtering". To subscribe to the mailing list, send a message to: ietf-bcp38bis-request@vpnc.org =2E..with the single word 'subscribe' in the body of the message. [snip] The web site for this mailing list is sponsored by the VPN Consortium. If you have any suggestions for additions or corrections to this web page, please send them to paul.hoffman(at)vpnc.org. Many thanks to Paul Hoffman for hosting the list. - - ferg > >First, sorry for any duplicates, but we wanted to reach all >interested parties. > >After several discussions with many different folks last week >at IETF 67 in San Diego, as well as various people over the >course of the past few months, Dan Senie and I have decided to >undertake an effort to "update" RFC2827/BCP38 [1]. > >I know that I'm not the only person who has heard various >discussions in the past couple of years that concluded that >(paraphrased), "BCP38 needs to be updated." > >Now is your chance to speak up. :-) > >We would very much like to solicit comments & suggestions from the >community-at-large on areas where you feel BCP38 is lacking, or in >areas where you feel it does not properly address with regards to >prohibiting source-spoofed traffic from any given administrative >network boundary, given that some technical aspects of the Internet >may have changed since it's publication. > >While we acknowledge that a uniform application of a source address >verification architecture/ingress filtering scheme will not mitigate >_all_ "unwanted traffic" [2] in the Internet, it will most certainly >address the issue of hosts which attempt to source-spoof traffic into >the Internet. > >I have not set up a mailing list for this yet, but if there is >enough discussion/input, I will make an effort to do so (or perhaps >the SAVA mailing list [3] might be a good place for discussion). In >the interim, you can contact me or Dan directly: > > Paul Ferguson: fergdawg(at)netzero.net > Dan Senie: dts(at)senie.com > > >Thanks, > >fergie & dan > >p.s. Also, for anyone who might be interesting in related work, >there is an effort to bring some additional work into the IETF >called SAVA, or Source Address Validation Architecture [4]. > > >[1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2827.txt >[2] http://www.iab.org/about/workshops/unwantedtraffic/index.html >[3] http://www.nrc.tsinghua.edu.cn/mailman/listinfo/sava >[4] >http://www.nrc.tsinghua.edu.cn/pipermail/sava/2006-September/000004.htm= l = -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.1 (Build 1557) wj8DBQFFXgK9q1pz9mNUZTMRArqOAKDzeVk2VCfD/Ru0OtrgtNLyJ90MqACePChS 2dqaaWAbXonj185jAtwnZ8Q=3D =3DjieX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 17 14:27:37 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl9Lp-0007PO-3S; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:26:13 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl9Ll-0007O4-S1; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:26:10 -0500 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl9Ld-0006cd-25; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:26:09 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kAHJPtDt012631; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:25:56 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:25:55 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OPS and Management meetings in Prague Thread-Index: AccJvSymVHdnO2zkRvizx1qb4v+5Og== From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: , , , "MIB Doctors" , , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: Subject: [OPS-AREA] OPS and Management meetings in Prague X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org In order to encourage new ideas and input from the operators and management community we (David and Dan) are thinking about allocating two time slots at the Prague IETF that are supposed to be specifically used to discuss new ideas and other topics, including complete bof proposals that are of interest for the Ops and management area. At the same time, because there is a time limit, it allows us to prioritize work so that we can keep the area focused on the X most important issues that fit within the allocated time. The idea is that we are often not allowing enough discussion that helps to think about the future as opposed to being constrained to the narrower topics as defined in our working group charters. The floor for proposals is already open. The sooner, the better.=20 Note that a joint meeting of the area is planned together with the NMRG, to report on the recent Utrecht workshop of NMRG and bring in new proposals from the research community. Based upon the number of requests for BOF slots this meeting could be scheduled in a separate third slot.=20 We are planning to ask for late-in-the week slots (Wednesday, Thursday), and even Friday morning may not be excluded. Please plan your trips accordingly.=20 David and Dan _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 23 10:21:57 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnGO6-0006Gt-Dm; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:21:18 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnGO4-0006Ge-4r; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:21:16 -0500 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnGO2-0005Lu-TX; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:21:16 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kANFLDDI020586; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:21:14 -0500 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:21:12 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) documents on IESG agenda Thread-Index: AccPEwJOsHtplwivSqKxiXk75EmbEw== From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: "NETCONF Goes On" , "MIB Doctors" , , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: Subject: [OPS-AREA] Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) documents on IESG agenda X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org I would like to draw your attention to the set of five documents updating the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) (RFC 3730 to 3734) that are on the agenda of the IESG telechat on 11/30, targeting advancement to Draft Standard.=20 The documents for approval are:=20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc3730bis-04.t xt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc3731bis-05.t xt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc3732bis-04.t xt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc3733bis-05.t xt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc3734bis-04.t xt =20 If there are any comments or concerns please send me or David comments until 11/29 the latest.=20 Dan _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area From ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 26 05:52:45 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoHc7-0001l5-Ko; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:51:59 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoHc6-0001kr-UT; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:51:58 -0500 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoHc5-0001NM-LI; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:51:58 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kAQApqJ2027360; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:51:52 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:51:51 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [NGO] Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) documents on IESGagenda Thread-Index: AccPEwJOsHtplwivSqKxiXk75EmbEwCNadsQ From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: "NETCONF Goes On" , "MIB Doctors" , , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 Cc: Subject: [OPS-AREA] RE: [NGO] Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) documents on IESGagenda X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org Also, implementation reports are available at http://www.ietf.org/IESG/Implementations/RFCs3730-3734_implem.txt.=20 Dan =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)=20 > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:21 PM > To: NETCONF Goes On; MIB Doctors; ops-nm@ietf.org; ops-area@ietf.org > Subject: [NGO] Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)=20 > documents on IESGagenda >=20 > I would like to draw your attention to the set of five=20 > documents updating the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)=20 > (RFC 3730 to 3734) that are on the agenda of the IESG=20 > telechat on 11/30, targeting advancement to Draft Standard.=20 >=20 > The documents for approval are:=20 >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc37 > 30bis-04.t > xt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc37 > 31bis-05.t > xt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc37 > 32bis-04.t > xt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc37 > 33bis-05.t > xt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-rfc37 > 34bis-04.t > xt >=20 > =20 > If there are any comments or concerns please send me or David=20 > comments until 11/29 the latest.=20 >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > NGO mailing list > NGO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo >=20 _______________________________________________ OPS-AREA mailing list OPS-AREA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area