From dromasca@avaya.com Tue Apr 7 02:42:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38803A680C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:42:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id faCdWAczoN-C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095EC3A6837 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,336,1235970000"; d="txt'?scan'208";a="167172099" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2009 05:43:32 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2009 05:43:31 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9B765.496687E0" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:43:17 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OPSAREA meeting at IETF-74 - Preliminary minutes Thread-Index: Acm3ZUcxgACVreDxRCi/awnudNAarw== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Cc: Mark Townsley Subject: [OPS-AREA] OPSAREA meeting at IETF-74 - Preliminary minutes X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:42:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9B765.496687E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please find attached the preliminary minutes of the OPSAREA meeting at IETF-74. Please send your comments and corrections. In a couple of places the minutes takers could not identify the speakers, it would be nice to fill in names.=20 Thanks to Margaret and Balazs for taking the extensive notes, and to Bert for the jabber support.=20 Dan ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9B765.496687E0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ops-area-ietf74-minutes-draft.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: ops-area-ietf74-minutes-draft.txt Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ops-area-ietf74-minutes-draft.txt" DQpPUFNBcmVhIE9wZW4gTWVldGluZw0KVHVlc2RheSwgTWFyY2ggMjRoDQpJRVRGIDc0IC0tIFNG LCBDQSwgVVNBDQoNCihiYXNlZCBvbiBub3RlcyB0YWtlbiBieSBNYXJnYXJldCBXYXNzZXJtYW5u IGFuZCBCYWxhenMgTGVuZ3llbCkNCg0KUkVOVU1CRVJJTkcgU1RJTEwgTkVFRFMgV09SSyAtLSBC cmlhbiBDYXJwZW50ZXINCmRyYWZ0LWNhcnBlbnRlci1yZW51bS1uZWVkcy13b3JrDQoNCkRlc3Bp dGUgd2hhdCBpdCBzYXlzIGluIHRoZSBhZ2VuZGEsIHRoaXMgdGFsayBpcyBlbnRpdGxlZCAiUmVu dW1iZXJpbmcNCnN0aWxsIG5lZWRzIHdvcmsiLg0KDQpbU2xpZGVzIHByZXNlbnRlZDogb3BzYXJl 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Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vO05e7yt6gg8 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD7F3A6C8C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,248,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="144128268" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2009 12:22:24 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2009 12:22:24 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:22:05 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: BOF Requests for IETF-75 Thread-Index: AcnGiyO8XvfVV6cBQ+2je29AvLvj1g== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [OPS-AREA] BOF Requests for IETF-75 X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:21:38 -0000 According to the cut-off dates list for the 75th IETF: > June 8, Monday - Cutoff date for requests to Area Directors to schedule BOFs at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT) It's not that much time left. If you plan to submit a request for a BOF in Stockholm please start working for the preparation and let us know as soon as possible. RFC 5434 is a good reading about how to prepare for a successful BOF session.=20 Ron and Dan From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Apr 27 08:57:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E01F3A69DD for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:57:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.215 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.215 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d1RvdR1XaLqa for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952053A688A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,255,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="159619315" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 11:59:00 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 11:59:00 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:58:46 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 75th IETF - Working Group/BOF Scheduling Thread-Index: AcnHSI2Oit3H2CXGS4Wu24kaU25qhwACHJ1w From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [OPS-AREA] FW: 75th IETF - Working Group/BOF Scheduling X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:57:42 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IETF Agenda Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:56 PM To: Working Group Chairs Cc: irsg@isi.edu; bofchairs@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org Subject: 75th IETF - Working Group/BOF Scheduling=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 75th IETF Stockholm, Sweden Meeting Dates: July 26-31, 2009 Host: .SE ----------------------------------------------------------------- IETF meetings start Monday morning and run through Friday mid-afternoon (15:15). We are accepting scheduling requests for all Working Groups and BOFs starting. The milestones and deadlines for scheduling-related activities are as follows: NOTE: cutoff dates are subject to change. May 25, Monday - Cutoff date for requests to schedule Working Group meetings and for preliminary BOF proposals to ADs at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT).=20 June 8, Monday - Cutoff date for requests to Area Directors to schedule BOFs at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT).=20 June 15, Monday - Cutoff date for Area Directors to approve BOFs at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT).=20 June 19, Friday - Preliminary agenda published for comment. July 1, Wednesday - Cutoff date for requests to reschedule Working Group and BOF meetings 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT). July 6, Monday - Final agenda to be published.=20 July 15, Wednesday - Draft Working Group agendas due by 17:00 PT (24:00 UTC/GMT). July 20, Monday - Revised Working Group agendas due by 17:00 PT (24:00 UTC/GMT). Submitting Requests for Working Group and BOF Sessions Please submit requests to schedule your Working Group sessions using the "IETF Meeting Session Request Tool," a Web-based tool for submitting all of the information that the Secretariat requires to schedule your sessions. The URL for the tool is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_session_requester.cgi Instructions for using the tool are available at: http://www.ietf.org/instructions/session_request_tool_instruction.html Please send requests to schedule your BOF sessions to agenda@ietf.org.=20 Please include the acronym of your BOF in the subject line of the message, and include all of the information specified in item (4) of "Requesting Meeting Sessions at IETF Meetings" in the body. (This document is included below.) Submitting Session Agendas For the convenience of meeting attendees, we ask that you submit the agendas for your Working Group sessions as early as possible. Draft Working Group agendas are due Wednesday, July 15 by 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT). Revised Working Group agendas are due no later than Monday, July 20 at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT). The proposed agenda for a BOF session should be submitted along with your request for a session. Please be sure to copy your Area Director on that message. Please submit the agendas for your Working Group sessions using the "IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool," a Web-based tool for making your meeting agenda, minutes, and presentation slides available to the community before, during, and after an IETF meeting. If you are a BOF chair, then you may use the tool to submit a revised agenda as well as other materials for your BOF once the BOF has been approved. The URL for the tool is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_proceedings.cgi Additional information about this tool is available at: http://www.ietf.org/instructions/meeting_materials_tool.html Agendas submitted via the tool will be available to the public on the "IETF Meeting Materials" Web page as soon as they are submitted. The URL for the "IETF 75 Meeting Materials" Web page is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=3D7= 5 If you are a Working Group chair, then you already have accounts on the "IETF Meeting Session Request Tool" and the "IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool." The same User ID and password will work for both tools. If you are a BOF chair who is not also a Working Group chair, then you will be given an account on the "IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool" when your BOF has been approved. If you require assistance in using either tool, or wish to report a bug, then please send a message to: ietf-action@ietf.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For your convenience, comprehensive information on requesting meeting sessions at IETF 75 is presented below: 1. Requests to schedule Working Group sessions should be submitted using the "IETF Meeting Session Request Tool," a Web-based tool for submitting all of the information required by the Secretariat to schedule your sessions. The URL for the tool is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_session_requester.cgi Instructions for using the tool are available at: http://www.ietf.org/instructions/session_request_tool_instruction.html If you require an account on this tool, or assistance in using it, then please send a message to ietf-action@ietf.org. If you are unable to use the tool, then you may send your request via e-mail to agenda@ietf.org, with a copy to the appropriate Area Director(s). Requests to schedule BOF sessions must be sent to agenda@ietf.org with a copy to the appropriate Area Director(s). When submitting a Working Group or BOF session request by e-mail, please include the Working Group or BOF acronym in the Subject line. 2. BOFs will NOT be scheduled unless the Area Director(s) approved request is accompanied by a BOF'S FULL NAME AND ACRONYM, AREA, CHAIR(S) NAME(S) (given together with e-mail address(es)), AN AGENDA AND FULL DESCRIPTION, and the information requested in (4) below. (Please read the BOF Procedure at: http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1bof-procedures.txt before requesting a session for a BOF.) 3. A Working Group may request either one or two sessions. If your Working Group requires more than two sessions, then your request must be approved by an Area Director. Additional sessions will be assigned, based on availability, after Wednesday, July 1 at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT), the cut-off date for requests to reschedule a session. 4. You MUST provide the following information before a Working Group or BOF session will be scheduled: a. Working Group or BOF full name with acronym in brackets:=20 b. AREA under which Working Group or BOF appears: c. CONFLICTS you wish to avoid, please be as specific as possible: d. Expected Attendance (figures from the 74th IETF meeting are included at the end of this message): e. Special requests: f. Number of sessions: g. Length of session:=20 - 1 hour=20 - 1 1/2 hours - 2 hours=20 - 2 1/2 hours For more information on scheduling Working Group and BOF sessions, please refer to RFC 2418 (BCP 25), "IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures" (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For your convenience please find here a list of the IETF Area Directors with their e-mail addresses: IETF Chair Russ Housley Applications Area (app) Lisa Dusseault Alexey Melnikov Internet Area (int) Jari Arkko Ralph Droms Operations & Management Area (ops) Ronald Bonica Dan Romascanu Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area (rai) Cullen Jennings Robert Sparks Routing Area (rtg) Ross Callon Adrian Farrel Security Area (sec) Pasi Eronen Tim Polk Transport Area (tsv) Lars Eggert Magnus Westerlund =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 74th IETF Meeting Attendance Number 6ai 189 6lowpan NO SHEETS 6man 138 alto 112 ancp 21 apparea 92 atoca 77 autoconf 34 avt 77 avt (2nd session) 65 behave 150 behave (2nd session) 116 bliss 64 bmwg 23 capwap 16 ccamp 76 ccamp (2nd session) 55 csi 16 dccp 18 dhc 50 dime 31 dkim 46 dnsop 90 drinks 69 dtnrg 44 ecrit 80 emu 35 fecframe 17 forces 20 geopriv 68 grow 75 hiprg 38 hokey 40 httpbis 25 idnabis 70 idnabis (2nd session) 41 idr 127 intarea 207 ipfix 32 ippm 46 ipsecme 44 isms 25 keyprov 24 kitten 11 krb-wg 26 l2vpn 149 l3vpn 48 ledbat 30 lisp 176 manet 45 mboned 37 mediactrl 47 mext 96 mif 68 mip4 35 mipshop 57 mmox 77 mmusic 75 morg 15 mpls 144 mpls (2nd session) 135 msec 30 nea 28 netconf 39 netext 68 netmod 25 netmod (2nd session) 32 nfsv4 22 nsis 23 oauth 105 opsarea 86 opsec 24 ospf 34 p2prg 99 p2psip 71 pce 63 pcn 24 pim 41 pkix 50 pmol 27 pre8prob 44 pwe3 115 radext 19 rtgarea 122 rmt 12 roll 69 rrg 106 rtgwg 112 saag 116 sasl 24 savi 60 shara 155 sidr 77 sieve 17 simple 69 sip 126 sip (2nd session) 117 sipping 92 softwire 73 speermint 63 storm 14 tcpm 33 tcpm (2nd session) 59 tictoc 37 tls 44 trill 55 tsvarea 72 tsvwg 47 v6ops 126 v6ops (second session) 65 vcarddav 18 xcon 48 xmpp2 86 yam 41 From fluffy@cisco.com Mon Apr 27 12:12:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6AB3A6FED; 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Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:13:45 GMT Message-Id: From: Cullen Jennings To: sip-ops@ietf.org, ops-area@ietf.org, rai@ietf.org, ops-dir@ietf.org, sipping Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:13:44 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=959; t=1240859626; x=1241723626; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Anouncing=20new=20Sip-Ops=20mailing=20list=20 |Sender:=20; bh=K7DuTheGRiwMCr9seyr+eB+O3RNm63clRiS/PWtDCOg=; b=UoqRUZZlBr3lpUJi34l7wn7fbSz90lCzdgOw5lSiF48YLOd9UxCLKJi4ZG IqfrVLrdbUVnnl6hzqEeWp0jYjsoKKs4j1NgrLkwOg1qGzOsQbpiy/yH3+6E VWDGR3IDptr9KzU/9DCTCA12f+BFE6CuBA1562CuM09Ls2mTD+Rk4=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:19:02 -0700 Cc: Robert Sparks Subject: [OPS-AREA] Anouncing new Sip-Ops mailing list X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:12:27 -0000 We have set up a new list for discussion of SIP Operational issues. You can subscribe at https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-ops The purpose of the SIP-Ops mailing list is to discuss issues and requirements related to operating a SIP domain, which may drive the need for IETF standardization or Best-Common-Practice documentation. For example, issues or needs related to troubleshooting, diagnostics, security, and administration relating to operating a SIP domain would be candidates for this list. This is not a list to ask questions about implementing current standards, nor about specific product/vendor issues. Issues related to peering between domains are more appropriate for discussion in SPEERMINT. Thanks to Victor and Hadriel for running the list. Cullen PS - if you reply to this email, please trim the WGs on the too line appropriate. We don't need threads cross posted to several mailing lists. From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Apr 27 12:24:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ops-area@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6947B28C190; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xEBCyOEvSNsh; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A0028C162; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,256,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="169159536" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 15:25:23 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 15:25:23 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:25:19 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Anouncing new Sip-Ops mailing list Thread-Index: AcnHbE0DiFKPaWI5RUiIEk0sXf5jDAAADBQQ References: From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Cullen Jennings" , , , Subject: Re: [OPS-AREA] Anouncing new Sip-Ops mailing list X-BeenThere: ops-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPS Area e-mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:24:04 -0000 =20 I would like to encourage the principal contributors in the Operations and Management Area who are interested in the work done in RAI to subscribe and contribute to this list. As the work resulting from the discussions on SIP-OPS may end by being done in RAI or OPS (or other areas) the clear need is for such work to be consistent with the other IETF operational practices and network management framework, and also to make use wherever appropriate of existing protocols and tools.=20 Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:14 PM > To: sip-ops@ietf.org; ops-area@ietf.org; rai@ietf.org;=20 > ops-dir@ietf.org; sipping > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Robert Sparks > Subject: Anouncing new Sip-Ops mailing list=20 >=20 >=20 > We have set up a new list for discussion of SIP Operational issues. =20 > You can subscribe at >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-ops >=20 > The purpose of the SIP-Ops mailing list is to discuss issues=20 > and requirements related to operating a SIP domain, which may=20 > drive the need for IETF standardization or=20 > Best-Common-Practice documentation. > For example, issues or needs related to troubleshooting,=20 > diagnostics, security, and administration relating to=20 > operating a SIP domain would be candidates for this list.=20 > This is not a list to ask questions about implementing=20 > current standards, nor about specific product/vendor issues.=20 > Issues related to peering between domains are more=20 > appropriate for discussion in SPEERMINT. >=20 > Thanks to Victor and Hadriel for running the list. >=20 > Cullen >=20 > PS - if you reply to this email, please trim the WGs on the=20 > too line appropriate. We don't need threads cross posted to=20 > several mailing lists. >=20 >=20 >=20