From randy_presuhn@mindspring.com Mon Jan 3 09:50:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FEB3A69F7 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:50:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.578, BAYES_50=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KN-AZHxLVS9I for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A173A69F6 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=hM2uxfn2THYi8GKfizTOtV8VPh8ut8a2YKXg4KxnDBZtEKOF0S+KIUpp7Aki0FrB; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [76.254.55.1] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PZoZw-0008Qf-VI for opsawg@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:52:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000601cbab6f$33532e40$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: References: <008801cb9b00$f1bd2040$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> <000401cba723$1ed28c40$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:53:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d888d26d9b9edb73dbfb59dd6bd6e8f1a715249710467b2c867d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.254.55.1 Subject: [OPSAWG] Request for WG last call on draft-presuhn-floats-04.txt X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:50:15 -0000 Hi - Since there seem to be no remaining issues or discussion regarding draft-presuhn-floats-04.txt, I'd like to ask the chairs to consider issuing a WG last call on this document. Randy From ietf@cdl.asgaard.org Tue Jan 11 19:54:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEF73A689F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:54:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.275 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.275 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.323, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EBEEHrkQYpow for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from asgaard.org (ratatosk.asgaard.org [204.29.150.73]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEC73A6895 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBF6A074A6 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:56:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-154-817305960" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:56:42 +1100 Message-Id: <4A022786-44B7-4FCE-810D-11E20EC5297C@cdl.asgaard.org> To: opsawg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [OPSAWG] Working group call on draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:54:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-154-817305960 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-153-817305892 --Apple-Mail-153-817305892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings and welcome back from the holidays for everyone. We would like to poll the working group to confirm the discussion in = Beijing on adopting draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration as a working = group item. Please indicate support, or not, by 23:59 UTC on 18 Jan. = It would be especially helpful if operators on the list would express = their thoughts on this document. Chris --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-153-817305892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 = Chris
= --Apple-Mail-153-817305892-- --Apple-Mail-154-817305960 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNLSZ/AAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/5R4H/Rjcct2wcbUKL3Yuwu8ytEkn VQDiVvWIXVamTFznpZUum+aePdFwp6opLUxtFgvXQ8j9jCuAOd0Tl83rqNeKhNbg 3gFaS2qc/anx08XHjbTzG7ZLCmweUv98kGpdZ04xhrF1qWEXGO/9OM1vSCA+kacC 0kwqjKHNNEqbp2a8UPO2UwQ1WKmHg/w4EcLumBwKxiKEM9UmfzsEH1rrroboQ0UN lx1D90xWZVlFzKOJ8ZTu3cFwRMv6L8oYP+BuzqLLIQSvxm3oMVbB0HWmIM5NnYnb fmz8tX9ouw4d3FhOHXysoDHr8pVczWHiqH4ZEWHGl2B/xfS86dqxaKkmrooxS9I= =g2P3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-154-817305960-- From randy_presuhn@mindspring.com Thu Jan 13 00:22:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725243A6AB3 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:22:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9N9F6vJoWpLQ for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCDE3A69B2 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:22:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=a6+E6HPzkOioMZyHQ35IuSXlS2Agd4AkByzJCNXzgPcSv1KY1I+WVEwNE67Sqbnc; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.75.138.1] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PdIUP-0005mV-1A for opsawg@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 03:25:01 -0500 Message-ID: <001401cbb2fb$a79cd600$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: References: <008801cb9b00$f1bd2040$6801a8c0@oemcomputer><000401cba723$1ed28c40$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> <000601cbab6f$33532e40$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:27:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d888d26d9b9edb73dbfb252ffbc11a40861b9cca083cd9c7f2df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.75.138.1 Subject: [OPSAWG] What to do about TCs for floats X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:22:40 -0000 Hi - Hello? Co-Chairs? Anyone? It's been over a month now. Will draft-presuhn-floats-04.txt be taken on by this WG? When can we get a WGLC? Randy From cancanhuang110@gmail.com Sun Jan 16 17:11:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0BB3A6E40 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:11:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.800, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mD8-d1mpiDwt for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD293A67C0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-fx0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 9so5895257fxm.31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:14:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=I1fOIj7Ec50oWl6uJFmgL/EgPwcXqe1au5QizhssdE4=; b=VTBopOie+3JIlRojaduPIGoGQX2YWGSY09Um5+13iS/+taNGtJdr+mPiALHEIBFfgV gY5JbLhaY574hhvoECeIwyWSWe6gUyCVi/VvbBLvX8f6I8WJm57nNx9WVf+2cyBCAlP7 Ggzvhc17yC2O7WC8Xg2810XLN8dIRNbMZDXJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qySEZdpXoC6aNcfCSR3VtpIrXQ0jErfY7yRtxd/U9E64H9LudftDdyIdDibNDLn3jc mM5TvRX7WZjmDGFA/9dTK31B8zjsY7CrLdnPRBMctKm/VFvKz+TvCzpJ1b0PIvwX1qzH H3p+5L2URLSruARX/q3fi800OqX/itMR8kx1g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.131 with SMTP id a3mr4055554faq.135.1295226870793; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.4.144 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:14:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4A022786-44B7-4FCE-810D-11E20EC5297C@cdl.asgaard.org> References: <4A022786-44B7-4FCE-810D-11E20EC5297C@cdl.asgaard.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:14:30 +0800 Message-ID: From: huang cancan To: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5d08985a8049a0081bc Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Working group call on draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:11:59 -0000 --001636c5a5d08985a8049a0081bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agree that this draft should be adopted as working group draft. Cancan Huang China Telecom On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE < ietf@cdl.asgaard.org> wrote: > Greetings and welcome back from the holidays for everyone. > > We would like to poll the working group to confirm the discussion in > Beijing on adopting draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration as a working > group item. Please indicate support, or not, by 23:59 UTC on 18 Jan. It > would be especially helpful if operators on the list would express their > thoughts on this document. > > Chris > > --- > =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF > Check my PGP key here: > https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc > > > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg > > --001636c5a5d08985a8049a0081bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Agree that this draft should be adopted as working group draft.
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Cancan Huang
China Telecom

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Christopher LI= LJENSTOLPE <ie= tf@cdl.asgaard.org> wrote:
Greetings and welcome back from the ho= lidays for everyone.=20

We would like to poll the working group to confirm the discussion in B= eijing on adopting draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration as a working gro= up item. =C2=A0Please indicate support, or not, by 23:59 UTC on 18 Jan. =C2= =A0It would be especially helpful if operators on the list would express th= eir thoughts on this document.

Chris

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--001636c5a5d08985a8049a0081bc-- From ietf@cdl.asgaard.org Mon Jan 17 15:10:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690828C0E1 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:10:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.176 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.176 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.422, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pqxrWvbWo15y for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from asgaard.org (ratatosk.asgaard.org [204.29.150.73]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494293A6F19 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D68A0D453; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:12:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-81--828816589" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:12:43 +1100 Message-Id: To: opsawg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-presuhn-floats-04.txt as WG item? X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:10:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-81--828816589 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-80--828816679 --Apple-Mail-80--828816679 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, There is a request to make draft-presuhn-floats-04 a working = group item. We will leave the poll open until Sunday 2359 UTC. Please = make your desires known. Chris --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-80--828816679 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 There is a request to make = draft-presuhn-floats-04 a working group item.  We will leave the = poll open until Sunday 2359 UTC.  Please make your desires = known.

= Chris


= --Apple-Mail-80--828816679-- --Apple-Mail-81--828816589 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNNMzrAAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/aHkH/jxLJiE289mWotQIG6DCLunP C+fXCrEUH1nBGju00CYjiG92tkK01pQpU98J4K4Hfza0WTo/v9dfDfCjh68Go1MU sHpP7+y2MYbwcYO24yxyDf9AlQxMLMRWDnMxv4qEj/f87BEwMgCZvxthEe2yePjl 8vqPShNRVzXufQ37MgrLfvgegYtxR2uZmt4LgqD+6FSPyi0AVrSWHyc7j+C+PrGF sOKhJANpv3csGbrtMDUPjxSquGRRJyy+v/U5pvRnfopet3uD6/GZsBoevhKxOPBv 81M/TgLBPzBbSvY7bdlel279mVE536fkR+F3tpqC4krxiskq8eqQnluoHHA4/Eo= =5W8y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-81--828816589-- From ietf@cdl.asgaard.org Mon Jan 17 15:18:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F20028C0E1 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:18:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.196 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.196 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.402, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m3J8SqwJB8-d for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from asgaard.org (ratatosk.asgaard.org [204.29.150.73]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A95728C0CF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE45A0D475; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:21:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-87--828310902" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:21:08 +1100 Message-Id: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> To: opsawg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:18:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-87--828310902 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-86--828310978 --Apple-Mail-86--828310978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has been = exceeded. There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the = last meeting, but only one response on the list. I'd really like to get = a more definitive response from the group on this. Please reply today = if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. Chris --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-86--828310978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 We have only had one response to = the poll, and the time has been exceeded.  There were a few more = hums for this to be a wg item in the last meeting, but only one response = on the list.  I'd really like to get a more definitive response = from the group on this.  Please reply today if you support (or = don't support) this item as a wg work = item.

Chris

= --Apple-Mail-86--828310978-- --Apple-Mail-87--828310902 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNNM7kAAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/vlIIAJoPWJwzf6IS8kfuaPdVd2dU 1kj8c9knuPfE97BwFHMRN4u+Dl0DLdO1GYQmAdxywf6g9stDAsZX02W8qJGaPB7F CQ6tvJy5NxnVt9ZFWtk1hcf5PWA/Az7Q/WFhjSIXKdHrMszxAvyDlbAernDDVKSc DJGq7PmPK1hJmGRa+c4ENPGiCeyI4OOUJR96fWvUSU45C3A1E3Kan28/5F8zrDMK X59KHqeimyzPFG5nD47B9AZcI8BqkZ5XwaWO0NFm38zp/VKyk2pm5kOV0V7kuzQ4 5Kn60mBLb9DW0y1Hu/AoLmoKTLM2ORYLF1SzWQ8CufWi9DOvXUVkY+AuUa/6lx8= =k7PF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-87--828310902-- From randy_presuhn@mindspring.com Mon Jan 17 16:44:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063028C204 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:44:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mS+kKJEHeGY0 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B046B28C1DA for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:44:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=qTg0Fj//Ffk9rlYxaMTWUQIiFgUGVP8uk/AJZ4Ael2RlmDdiW9SVRgJz8Ik3FqzG; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.75.138.1] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PeziZ-0005Hj-II for opsawg@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:46:39 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01cbb6a9$790e4e20$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:48:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d888d26d9b9edb73dbfb8f36d6e617c4b0f161831cbc284f5eac350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.75.138.1 Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:44:05 -0000 Hi - > From: "Christopher LILJENSTOLPE" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:21 PM > Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll ... > Please reply today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. This has been seriously needed for decades. Strongly support. Randy From randy_presuhn@mindspring.com Mon Jan 17 16:46:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E60828C20C for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:46:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h9PAL4zbOBa6 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ADD28C1DA for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:46:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=D1XkDA5GddA9TxsqAKCpgZt+zPgLLNAkNgI0leiLN7k4c4B24X5hh6XJDXraT/Es; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.75.138.1] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Pezkj-0006tn-0x for opsawg@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:48:53 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01cbb6a9$c9fcb060$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:51:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d888d26d9b9edb73dbfb3cda64224ff7e4d1570c243f84dc318b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.75.138.1 Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-presuhn-floats-04.txt as WG item? X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:46:18 -0000 Hi - > From: "Christopher LILJENSTOLPE" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:12 PM > Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-presuhn-floats-04.txt as WG item? ... > There is a request to make draft-presuhn-floats-04 a working group item. > We will leave the poll open until Sunday 2359 UTC. Please make your desires known. So, are we ignoring the call issued December 8th and the subsequent responses? Randy From ietf@cdl.asgaard.org Mon Jan 17 17:28:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C9C3A6DC0 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:28:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.385, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dHfTnfnW8wQn for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from asgaard.org (ratatosk.asgaard.org [204.29.150.73]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EC43A6DA7 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51FEA0D675; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 01:31:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-132--820507997" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:31:11 +1100 Message-Id: To: Randy Presuhn , opsawg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-presuhn-floats-04 to wg item X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 01:28:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-132--820507997 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-131--820508056 --Apple-Mail-131--820508056 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, Apologies to the author and the rest of the group, I had a = segfault, and forgot that we already polled on this. I've discussed = with Scott, and we agree that there is enough support for this draft to = make it a WG item. Chris --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-131--820508056 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Apologies to the author and the = rest of the group, I had a segfault, and forgot that we already polled = on this.   I've discussed with Scott, and we agree that there is = enough support for this draft to make it a WG = item.

Chris

= --Apple-Mail-131--820508056-- --Apple-Mail-132--820507997 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNNO1fAAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/7P8H/33g1m1+h7+COBwT3TD3lwzr hpxIP98ik/b2rpnJPzsd3FnS4wOmB3NVnHyicx1DJiTOuGGhLzFJ1pC0Ceav7JHa Koh+thE6FNxv+y4P14suHBkj2pEVbEYUjaEoHjT1cq8G7/yfDQSglDkmPEJNL9SP sEbzIHib/InzCYAsVlD8O/FUwBABgHJcQ+SPl2zAK+GVCErHKENd0FTb+9J2EdJD vI4MfZScsjZZd8SgQRVp9vcY78scZ2kmivF9g/03Pk3s5TDe9JlN5fl8UgxXNe97 3nquy4yE3HEYWGCdrru1GO/q5Lak0M4AtGQXM57cy0cGZ2yiJXd61HuFwsbol9Q= =Q0Dj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-132--820507997-- From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Mon Jan 17 19:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387C93A6E68; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.154 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.154 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.721, BAYES_00=-2.599, FF_IHOPE_YOU_SINK=2.166, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ObOUCwxNghHb; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918A83A6DB3; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110118031502.22524.57794.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:15:02 -0800 Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-opsawg-mib-floats-00.txt X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:15:03 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Operations and Management Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Textual Conventions for the Representation of Floating-Point Numbers Author(s) : R. Presuhn Filename : draft-ietf-opsawg-mib-floats-00.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2011-01-17 This memo defines a Management Information Base (MIB) module containing textual conventions (TCs) to represent floating-point numbers. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-opsawg-mib-floats-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-opsawg-mib-floats-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-01-17190725.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From young@h3c.com Mon Jan 17 19:45:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3923A6E68 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:45:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.229 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=4.271, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TIKtBgwlgxdf for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei-3com.com (unknown [60.191.123.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE983A6DB3 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei-3com.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3cml01-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0LF7000WV985R0@h3cml01-in.huawei-3com.com> for opsawg@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:48:06 +0800 (CST) Received: from H3CHUB01-EX.srv.huawei-3com.com ([10.63.16.181]) by h3cml01-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTPS id <0LF700GG5985NO@h3cml01-in.huawei-3com.com> for opsawg@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:48:05 +0800 (CST) Received: from h3cedge01-ex.h3c.com (172.25.12.73) by H3CHUB01-EX.srv.huawei-3com.com (10.63.16.181) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.689.0; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:48:05 +0800 Received: from h3cimss01-ss (172.25.12.100) by h3cedge01-ex.h3c.com (172.25.12.73) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.689.0; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:57:11 +0800 Received: from unknown (HELO s00338) ([10.154.68.111]) by smtp2.h3c.com with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:48:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:47:49 +0800 From: young In-reply-to: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> To: 'Christopher LILJENSTOLPE' Message-id: <004b01cbb6c2$7aa4ea50$6feebef0$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_erLJCNfNQrQa7Kie+tFaMw)" Content-language: zh-cn Thread-index: Acu2nUohLiCKQV6CTf+XY+A+vbysfAAJRUpQ X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID: <7e3ad6630004b1ed@h3c.com> References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgZHJhZnQtdHNvdS1vcHNhd2ctbmV0d29y?= =?utf-8?q?k-configuration_poll?= X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:45:34 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_erLJCNfNQrQa7Kie+tFaMw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I support it. =20 Regards Richard =20 =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Christopher = LILJENSTOLPE =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2011=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8818=E6=97=A5 = 7:21 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg@ietf.org =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration = poll =20 Greetings, =20 We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has been = exceeded. There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the = last meeting, but only one response on the list. I'd really like to get = a more definitive response from the group on this. Please reply today = if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. =20 Chris =20 --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc =20 --Boundary_(ID_erLJCNfNQrQa7Kie+tFaMw) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, I support it.

 

Regards

Richard

 

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2011=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8818=E6=97=A5 7:21
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg@ietf.org
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration = poll

 

Greetings,

 

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has = been exceeded.  There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in = the last meeting, but only one response on the list.  I'd really like to get = a more definitive response from the group on this.  Please reply today if = you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work = item.

 

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Chris

 

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Check my PGP key here:
https://www.asgaard.org/~cd= l/cdl.asc

 

--Boundary_(ID_erLJCNfNQrQa7Kie+tFaMw)-- From ietf@cdl.asgaard.org Mon Jan 17 19:50:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D7228C0DC for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:50:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.974 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.974 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.172, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F6ajZ5MVbWrk for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from asgaard.org (ratatosk.asgaard.org [204.29.150.73]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0AA3A6DB3 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103F7A0D90B; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-236--812017409" From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE In-Reply-To: <004b01cbb6c2$7aa4ea50$6feebef0$@com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:52:42 +1100 Message-Id: <12ABBF06-0986-4FD6-888E-3A813B73AFBA@cdl.asgaard.org> References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> <004b01cbb6c2$7aa4ea50$6feebef0$@com> To: young Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgZHJhZnQtdHNvdS1vcHNhd2ctbmV0d29y?= =?utf-8?q?k-configuration_poll?= X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:50:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-236--812017409 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-235--812017463 --Apple-Mail-235--812017463 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thank you Richard Chris On 18Jan2011, at 14.47, young wrote: > Hi, I support it. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards >=20 > Richard >=20 >=20 >=20 > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Christopher = LILJENSTOLPE > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2011=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8818=E6=97=A5= 7:21 > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg@ietf.org > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration = poll >=20 >=20 >=20 > Greetings, >=20 >=20 >=20 > We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has been = exceeded. There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the = last meeting, but only one response on the list. I'd really like to get = a more definitive response from the group on this. Please reply today = if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- >=20 > =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF > Check my PGP key here: > https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc >=20 >=20 >=20 --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-235--812017463 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thank = you Richard

Chris

On = 18Jan2011, at 14.47, young wrote:

Hi, I = support = it.



Regards

Richard



=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6= =E4=BA=BA: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Christopher = LILJENSTOLPE
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2011=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C= =8818=E6=97=A5 7:21
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: opsawg@ietf.org
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98:= [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration = poll



Greetings,



   We have = only had one response to the poll, and the time has been exceeded. =  There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the last = meeting, but only one response on the list.  I'd really like to get = a more definitive response from the group on this.  Please reply = today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work = item.



=    Chris



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Check my PGP key here:
https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl= /cdl.asc





= --Apple-Mail-235--812017463-- --Apple-Mail-236--812017409 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNNQ6RAAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/ImQH/2b845WLQe2IJt8BO7EWH1JB HHZsV6s8P2Shs5RA+BHiVRYZwKTBMUK9FOBqcDVCukii4IdEX7AOFnsMJG9cRUob oRxLYyZOrbC3Emz8I2vjMtIKgE1OBlbwoh3PDilvVkURlH4QtNtyzCEr7E17Qyj1 0gzSiR2GxVlBmBaCEJMAtsO98s7mnqFAMwc1etQlowtcYP+tW4Z6ea98AJJYesoi BbUn+BAo3vgck8PPbJQX9uOuj++jGDEkrcmh4W4BMi2lbOg5AKuNVNGzSFj5Pcj5 ye9Rbue1q1FWsuNRcLUikZfSQcQIf7tpHPv2yg6Ihgqj3DH4hT41y8YDdToW1Sc= =SJq6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-236--812017409-- From tom111.taylor@bell.net Mon Jan 17 20:00:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BBE3A6EF7 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:00:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.765 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.765 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i3FwP9qRjW4I for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc1-s12.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s12.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241C43A6EE2 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP58 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s12.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:03:24 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [70.26.23.173] X-Originating-Email: [tom111.taylor@bell.net] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.2.17] ([70.26.23.173]) by BLU0-SMTP58.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:03:24 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:03:31 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> In-Reply-To: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 04:03:24.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[A756A5F0:01CBB6C4] Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:00:50 -0000 I support it, but not sure how much my voice carries since I was involved in developing predecessors to this document. On 17/01/2011 6:21 PM, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE wrote: > Greetings, > > We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has been exceeded. There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the last meeting, but only one response on the list. I'd really like to get a more definitive response from the group on this. Please reply today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. > > Chris > > --- > 李柯睿 > Check my PGP key here: > https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg From mbj@tail-f.com Mon Jan 17 23:46:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310723A6FA6 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:46:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.116 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.929, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ks8wj+8T1cyW for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tail-f.com (de-0316.d.ipeer.se [213.180.79.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79E13A6E7B for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (138.162.241.83.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [83.241.162.138]) by mail.tail-f.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D027176C272; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:49:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:49:15 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20110118.084915.43543309.mbj@tail-f.com> To: ietf@cdl.asgaard.org From: Martin Bjorklund In-Reply-To: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 7.0.50 on Emacs 23.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:46:42 -0000 Hi, I support this document as a WG item. /martin Christopher LILJENSTOLPE wrote: > Greetings, > > We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has been > exceeded. There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the > last meeting, but only one response on the list. I'd really like to > get a more definitive response from the group on this. Please reply > today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. > > Chris > > --- > $BM{[IbO(B > Check my PGP key here: > https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc > From bertietf@bwijnen.net Mon Jan 17 23:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351E33A6DA4 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:59:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XRp1qNIA9N3H for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:610:240:11::c100:1341]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0F03A6D07 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 23:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net ([193.0.23.5]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6Ve-0008Mc-2N for opsawg@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:01:47 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6Vd-0007gq-TM for opsawg@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:01:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4D3548E9.4070102@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:01:45 +0100 From: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: opsawg@ietf.org References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> <001b01cbb6a9$790e4e20$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> In-Reply-To: <001b01cbb6a9$790e4e20$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd461c60580c07b39185fc8fb6d76d86fdb Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:59:13 -0000 Strong support Bert On 1/18/11 1:48 AM, Randy Presuhn wrote: > Hi - > >> From: "Christopher LILJENSTOLPE" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:21 PM >> Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll > ... >> Please reply today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. > This has been seriously needed for decades. > Strongly support. > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg > From ietf@cdl.asgaard.org Tue Jan 18 00:32:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D63A6E77 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:32:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.206 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.206 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.392, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wthZbefGy3jy for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from asgaard.org (ratatosk.asgaard.org [204.29.150.73]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6C3A6DAA for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31EBA0DE57; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:35:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-270--795065102" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:35:14 +1100 Message-Id: To: opsawg@ietf.org, draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration@tools.ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:32:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-270--795065102 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-269--795065155 --Apple-Mail-269--795065155 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, Well, the last prod seems to have done the trick. We have at = least 4 yeas, and no nays, so we'll take that as wg consensus. Would = the authors please resubmit as = draft-ietf-opsawg--network-configuration? The something = should identify the automatic nature of the problem space = (network-configuration is way to generic in my opinion). Chris --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-269--795065155 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Well, the last prod seems to have = done the trick.  We have at least 4 yeas, and no nays, so we'll = take that as wg consensus.  Would the authors please resubmit as = draft-ietf-opsawg-<something>-network-configuration?  The = something should identify the automatic nature of the problem space = (network-configuration is way to generic in my = opinion).

Chris

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X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2011 08:50:57.0873 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3002410:01CBB6EC] Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:48:42 -0000 +1 Cheers, Mehmet > -----Original Message----- > From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of ext Bert (IETF) Wijnen > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:02 AM > To: opsawg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll >=20 > Strong support >=20 > Bert >=20 > On 1/18/11 1:48 AM, Randy Presuhn wrote: > > Hi - > > > >> From: "Christopher LILJENSTOLPE" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:21 PM > >> Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll > > ... > >> Please reply today if you support (or don't support) this item 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fenrir.asgaard.org (fenrir.asgaard.org [204.29.152.154]) by asgaard.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9B2A0E872; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-393--749125255" From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:20:54 +1100 Message-Id: References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> To: Andy Bierman Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:18:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-393--749125255 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-392--749125374 --Apple-Mail-392--749125374 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings Andy, Initially it is a problem statement and possible solution set. = I would expect that either a BCP or a list of potential items to = standardize will come out of it. Chris On 19Jan2011, at 07.52, Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am having a hard time understanding what is being standardized here. > There is a lot of =E2=80=98overview=E2=80=99 text describing protocols = in use for various things. > There is mention of a =E2=80=98configuration server=E2=80=99 that = needs DNS support. > I=E2=80=99m not interested in working on this draft or blocking it, = but I am curious > what standards benefit this document will provide when it is done. >=20 > Andy >=20 >=20 > From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Christopher LILJENSTOLPE > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:21 PM > To: opsawg@ietf.org > Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > We have only had one response to the poll, and the time has = been exceeded. There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in = the last meeting, but only one response on the list. I'd really like to = get a more definitive response from the group on this. Please reply = today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work item. >=20 > Chris >=20 > --- > =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF > Check my PGP key here: > https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc >=20 --- =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF Check my PGP key here: https://www.asgaard.org/~cdl/cdl.asc --Apple-Mail-392--749125374 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Initially it is a problem = statement and possible solution set.  I would expect that either a = BCP or a list of potential items to standardize will come out of = it.

= Chris



On = 19Jan2011, at 07.52, Andy Bierman wrote:

Hi,

I am having a hard time understanding what = is being standardized here.
There is a lot of =E2=80=98overview=E2=80=99= text describing protocols in use for various things.
There is = mention of a =E2=80=98configuration server=E2=80=99 that needs DNS = support.
I=E2=80=99m not interested in working on this draft or = blocking it, but I am curious
what standards benefit this document = will provide when it is done.

Andy


From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christopher = LILJENSTOLPE
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:21 PM
To: opsawg@ietf.org
Subject: [OPSAWG] = draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll

Greetings,

=            We = have only had one response to the poll, and the time has been exceeded. =  There were a few more hums for this to be a wg item in the last = meeting, but only one response on the list.  I'd really like to get = a more definitive response from the group on this.  Please reply = today if you support (or don't support) this item as a wg work = item.

=            Chris
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= --Apple-Mail-392--749125374-- --Apple-Mail-393--749125255 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNNgQ8AAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/cN4H/2H1QuELxhodOa1zP5qUwx3G 2PpE3QuYGCI89RdkQ8SFzwGLCmpSUpAZGj4XVZv9xqtg6VlxMQAdcUA4MH75JmGu KA022TdaZc6OsCW3D42dfCCMig6Z0W5lxjy5Z+jrcHNsiTZ7NfhjqxkI4LPlDlLq BZIXycvjni4cfHXQ8Gwp8g8utMVJ2flhKyUuOhC9L2BDyBIYFtQdzZuB0EJSPZb5 fkHqtf6fI85F1EpD0RR4IzWM9WURK0nzlR7BHS8Z03GWHqMDaK8GFPDsk6heUPYi a4TuyObT9tsb4s6NzXE47TbQy6g382v7wrHiwHFu9WRGAUwQB+V7wguK6MtUd3w= =EmSZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-393--749125255-- From Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com Wed Jan 19 06:01:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9E93A6F30; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:01:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id odtP5p87BPYr; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B843A712B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LF900547WFBZN@usaga03-in.huawei.com>; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:04:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0LF900JX1WF9G9@usaga03-in.huawei.com>; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:04:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:04:20 +0000 From: Adrian Farrel To: mpls@ietf.org, 'CCAMP' , pce@ietf.org Message-id: <070501cbb7e1$c6436020$52ca2060$@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-gb Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: Acu34bm7+lB0frMlTquX736g5RjMjQ== Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, itu-t-liaisons@iab.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org, pwe3@ietf.org, opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] Proposed liaison response on ITU-T Optical transport Network Work Plan X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:01:45 -0000 Hi, We received a liaison "SG15 OTNT standardization work plan" which you can see at https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file1054.pdf The document they would like us to review is "Draft Revised Optical Transport Networks & Technologies Standardization Work Plan, Issue 13" visible at https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file1055.pdf The liaison is addressed CCAMP, PCE, and MPLS, but it falls to me as liaison on the Optical Control Plane to respond. I am copying this email to BFD, OPSAWG, PWE3, and L2VPN as those WGs are explicitly mentioned in the document. A response is requested by February 1, 2011. Here is a draft of what I plan to send. Please send me any comments by January 28. Thanks, Adrian === The IETF thanks you for your liaison COM15-LS204-E received on 2010-06-24 titled "SG15 OTNT standardization work plan", and thanks you for sharing your plans. We have reviewed the document and have a number of comments. In general, it is becoming less and less clear that the title of this document is accurate! SG15 now embraces a number of non-optical transport technologies including Ethernet and MPLS-TP. Although those packet-based technologies can be transmitted over optical links, they are not limited to that medium. Maybe your document should be titled "Transport Networks & Technologies Standardization Work Plan" or maybe you should remove the non-optical material. The scope text in Section 5 and 5.1 might also need revision. The IETF has not position of this, but simply draws the matter to your attention. Table 5-1 We would like to suggest the inclusion of the MPLS Working Group in this table as that working group is responsible for many elements of the support of Ethernet "carrier-class" pseudowires over MPLS and MPLS-TP networks. Section 5.6.1 begins: "MPLS OAM was originally standardized by ITU-T SG13 (Q.5/13)." Although the section goes on to list IETF standardization of MPLS OAM, it may be considered that this first sentence implies that the ITU-T developed MPLS OAM before any MPLS OAM had been developed within the IETF. This would, of course, be a misrepresentation. Therefore, we suggest that you change this first sentence to read: "Within the ITU-T, MPLS OAM was originally standardized by SG13 (Q.5/13)." Table 5-3 Architectural Aspects of MPLS-TP Add RFC 5921, RFC 5950, RFC 5960 Equipment Functional Characteristics of MPLS-TP Add RFC 5960 OAM and Protection Switching of MPLS-TP Add RFC 5860 Management Aspects of MPLS Add RFC 4221 Management Aspects of MPLS-TP Add RFC 5950, RFC 5951 Performance of ATM Add RFC 3116 Performance of MPLS Add RFC 5695 Table 7-1-2 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-framework is now RFC 5921 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-req is now RFC 5951 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-survive-fwk reached revision -06 and has been approved for publication as an RFC draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-framework reached revision -10 and has been approved for publication as an RFC draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-framework is now RFC 5950 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-rosetta-stone has reached revision -03 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-data-plane is now RFC 5960 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers has reached revision -03 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ach-tlv is now abandoned draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-tp-cp-framework has reached revision -05 Further relevant Internet-Drafts and RFCs can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3 http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/bfd http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pce Table 7-4-2 draft-ietf-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf is now RFC 5787 Table 7-8 should inherit changes to Table 7-1-2 and be updated according to the document status available at the IETF working group pages as listed above. Table 8-1 entry 3. Please be aware of the work on impairment-aware routing in the CCAMP and PCE working groups. (It may be your intention that this is covered under entry 5.) Annex A might usefully refer readers to RFC 4397 and draft-ietf-mpls-tp-rosetta-stone that provide terminology mapping and have been jointly developed by IETF and ITU-T experts. We would welcome it if you shared any future revisions of this work plan with us. 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Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14C528C0F3 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:05:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.119 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.119 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.130, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hlm5KXEq4yJD for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF3128C0E7 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4063C0003; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:08:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iOzpZiFx44q0; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:08:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C78C0009; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:08:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 49E3E1626750; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:08:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:08:01 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Andy Bierman Message-ID: <20110119170801.GD1313@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Andy Bierman , Christopher LILJENSTOLPE , "opsawg@ietf.org" References: <576B9E08-956A-44AE-9E8C-9E6AC03EBF81@cdl.asgaard.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "opsawg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-tsou-opsawg-network-configuration poll X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:05:30 -0000 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:02:21AM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote: > OK – I guess I like this draft, especially if it leads to the standardization > of specific data models. It seems to overlap the OPS protocol survey draft > that Mehmet wrote (all the background text). It seems to hint at architecture > (introduction of a configuration server) without defining anything. > > I don’t expect specifics like the ipfix-psamp.yang in this draft, > but I expect more than the obvious (configuration is not standard and it should be). > > There are lots of reasons that no standardized configuration solutions of any kind > have ever succeeded in the IETF. I won’t resurrect that debate now, but this > is not a new problem. I don’t see any new ideas in the draft that would make me think > this time it will be different. The document discusses to some larger extend bootstrapping issues during large deployment operations. If this has been discussed and documented before, I am happy for a reference. This is not a protocol survey, this is not a standard of any kind (informational document), it does not aim at defining data models. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Mon Jan 24 07:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC91C3A68F9; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.471 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.471 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.128, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PDJfS-OSgbww; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAE93A6ADD; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110124151502.17252.41877.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:15:02 -0800 Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-03.txt X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:15:04 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Operations and Management Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : An Overview of Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Mechanisms Author(s) : T. Mizrahi, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-03.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2011-01-24 Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) is a general term that refers to a toolset that can be used for fault detection and localization, and for performance measurement. OAM mechanisms have been defined for various layers in the protocol stack, and are used with a variety of protocols. This document presents an overview of the OAM mechanisms that have been defined and are currently being defined by the IETF, as well as a comparison to other OAM mechanisms that have been defined by the IEEE and ITU-T. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-01-24071049.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From talmi@marvell.com Tue Jan 25 01:17:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E523A697D; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:17:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.161, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CcfDZTREyKLA; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from na3sys009aog101.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog101.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 910193A63CB; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([65.219.4.130]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob101.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTT6V8RVUe7Qsz5wnivq4GyYyBR0ZW4Ad@postini.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:20:50 PST Received: from YK-HUB01.marvell.com (10.4.102.51) by sc-owa02.marvell.com (10.93.76.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.213.0; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:18:56 -0800 Received: from IL-MB01.marvell.com ([10.4.102.53]) by YK-HUB01.marvell.com ([10.4.102.51]) with mapi; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:18:54 +0200 From: Tal Mizrahi To: "opsawg@ietf.org" , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:18:55 +0200 Thread-Topic: [OPSAWG] [mpls-tp] New version of draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview Thread-Index: Acu8cOO9h2VkdrA6SP2GTxdBMRAg2w== Message-ID: <74470498B659FA4687F0B0018C19A89CFCDC146E6C@IL-MB01.marvell.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_74470498B659FA4687F0B0018C19A89CFCDC146E6CILMB01marvell_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OPSAWG] [mpls-tp] New version of draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:17:53 -0000 --_000_74470498B659FA4687F0B0018C19A89CFCDC146E6CILMB01marvell_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We have posted an updated version, addressing all of the comments we receiv= ed for the previous version. Any further comments will be welcome. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-03 Regards, Tal. --_000_74470498B659FA4687F0B0018C19A89CFCDC146E6CILMB01marvell_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--_000_74470498B659FA4687F0B0018C19A89CFCDC146E6CILMB01marvell_-- From sob@harvard.edu Mon Jan 31 06:37:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FA93A6C0E for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 06:37:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.222 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.222 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.377, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ELRDWj-NOlvr for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 06:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from newdev.eecs.harvard.edu (newdev.eecs.harvard.edu [140.247.60.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2B43A6BFF for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 06:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by newdev.eecs.harvard.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id DB27081B75B; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:40:45 -0500 (EST) To: opsawg@ietf.org Message-Id: <20110131144045.DB27081B75B@newdev.eecs.harvard.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:40:45 -0500 (EST) From: sob@harvard.edu (Scott O. Bradner) Subject: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:37:33 -0000 I should have done this right after the last IETF meeting but, in any case, this message starts a WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def - please let the list know if you think the ID is ready for publication as a BCP thanks Scott From talmi@marvell.com Mon Jan 31 07:26:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CF53A6A93 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:26:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.393 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.393 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.206, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHxMK9atqnOu for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from na3sys009aog107.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog107.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.197]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9523A6A73 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([65.219.4.130]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob107.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTUbVV638/4XMCkbelbiYfTxSb/x3dwIj@postini.com; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:29:30 PST Received: from YK-HUB02.marvell.com (10.4.102.52) by sc-owa02.marvell.com (10.93.76.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.213.0; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:28:10 -0800 Received: from IL-MB01.marvell.com ([10.4.102.53]) by YK-HUB02.marvell.com ([10.4.102.52]) with mapi; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:28:07 +0200 From: Tal Mizrahi To: "Scott O. Bradner" , "opsawg@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:28:09 +0200 Thread-Topic: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def Thread-Index: AcvBVNwThx1vb2oMQgKmaUOtq9OtOQABok5A Message-ID: <74470498B659FA4687F0B0018C19A89CFCDC1B3C43@IL-MB01.marvell.com> References: <20110131144045.DB27081B75B@newdev.eecs.harvard.edu> In-Reply-To: <20110131144045.DB27081B75B@newdev.eecs.harvard.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:26:18 -0000 Support. Tal. -----Original Message----- From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Scott O. Bradner Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:41 PM To: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def I should have done this right after the last IETF meeting but, in any case, this message starts a WGLC on=20 draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def - please let the list know if you think the ID is ready for publication as a BCP thanks Scott _______________________________________________ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg From Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com Mon Jan 31 08:19:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB7B3A67B6 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.427 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.828, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mjWBuz7WPYqV for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAB83A67B4 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LFW002Z3AT3HX@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for opsawg@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0LFW009UNAT1BF@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for opsawg@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:22:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:14 +0000 From: Adrian Farrel In-reply-to: <20110131144045.DB27081B75B@newdev.eecs.harvard.edu> To: "'Scott O. Bradner'" , opsawg@ietf.org Message-id: <05f001cbc163$06fda3c0$14f8eb40$@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-gb Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AQIfOoQTKTODxhwC6RL1r3QpVjSA45NEUAvA References: <20110131144045.DB27081B75B@newdev.eecs.harvard.edu> Cc: huub.van.helvoort@huawei.com, draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:19:03 -0000 Hi, Can you confirm for me that, despite the file name, this document is now not constrained to MPLS-TP, but applies to all IETF work? Cheers, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Scott O. Bradner > Sent: 31 January 2011 14:41 > To: opsawg@ietf.org > Subject: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def > > > I should have done this right after the last IETF meeting > but, in any case, this message starts a WGLC on > draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def - please let the > list know if you think the ID is ready for publication > as a BCP > > thanks > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg From loa@pi.nu Mon Jan 31 09:05:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2087C3A6C4E for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:05:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.295 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.295 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=1.908, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZIyusSsbduUS for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28E03A6C49 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [2.70.67.147] (unknown [2.70.67.147]) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9B9E32A8001; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:08:46 +0100 (CET) References: <20110131144045.DB27081B75B@newdev.eecs.harvard.edu> <05f001cbc163$06fda3c0$14f8eb40$@huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <05f001cbc163$06fda3c0$14f8eb40$@huawei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <38E2FBDE-685F-4A61-82E3-953D3AEF07FB@pi.nu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: "Loa@pi.nu" Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:07:51 +0100 To: "Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com" Cc: "huub.van.helvoort@huawei.com" , "opsawg@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:05:35 -0000 All, The name comes for the fact that it originated within mpls-tp project, but i= t now makes recommendation how to use the OAM acronym IETF wide, this is why= we have this 2nd wg last call. /Loa Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone 31 jan 2011 kl. 17:22 skrev Adrian Farrel : > Hi, >=20 > Can you confirm for me that, despite the file name, this document is now n= ot > constrained to MPLS-TP, but applies to all IETF work? >=20 > Cheers, > Adrian >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Scott O. Bradner >> Sent: 31 January 2011 14:41 >> To: opsawg@ietf.org >> Subject: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def >>=20 >>=20 >> I should have done this right after the last IETF meeting >> but, in any case, this message starts a WGLC on >> draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def - please let the >> list know if you think the ID is ready for publication >> as a BCP >>=20 >> thanks >>=20 >> Scott >> _______________________________________________ >> OPSAWG mailing list >> OPSAWG@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg