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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [OPSAWG and OPSAREA] Call for agenda items for Prague.
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Here is the updated agenda
-TACACS+: draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs-00 
<http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs/>(OPSAWG, 15 
min + Q/A)
-YANG Model Coordination Group Update (Benoit, 15 min):
-DNSOP activities (Joel, 10 min)

Regards, Benoit
> Dear all,
>
> Here is the agenda so far.
> -TACACS+: draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs-00 
> <http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs/>(OPSAWG, 
> duration to be confirmed)
> -YANG Model Coordination Group Update (Benoit, 15 min):
> -DNSOP activities (Joel, 10 min)
>
> Any other requests?
>
> Regards, Benoit
>> Forwarding Warren's message.
>>
>> Regards, Benoit
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have requested a slot for the joint OpsAWG / OpsArea meeting in 
>> Prague.
>>
>> Please send over requests for agenda time.
>>
>> Please remember that we give time to drafts that have already received
>> significant discussion on list.
>>
>> W
>>
>


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        <br>
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        received <br>
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        W <br>
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To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <OpsAWG@ietf.org>, "draft-you-opsawg-capwap-separation-for-mp@tools.ietf.org" <draft-you-opsawg-capwap-separation-for-mp@tools.ietf.org>
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Hi Warren,

This draft has a tight relation to the working group document,
"draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel=B2. Its true the new document clearly
spells out the MVNO use-case more clearly and defines a error code. But
I=B9m not convinced we enable the larger use-case in one document and have
error code in some other document. I think this should be combined and
have one quality document and not publish 10 documents for the same
use-case of Alt-Tunnel configuration delivery; One document covering
single instance and another document covering multi-instance. It makes no
sense to me. As such most of the authors are both the documents except one
author Youjianhie.

My recommendation is to fold this text into the other document and have
Youjianjie as a co-author and move forward. I think we should have one
quality document and that=B9s my motivation.



Regards
Sri




On 6/25/15, 6:04 AM, "OPSAWG on behalf of Warren Kumari"
<opsawg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of warren@kumari.net> wrote:

>Dear OpsAWG WG,
>
>The authors of draft-you-opsawg-capwap-separation-for-mp have asked
>for this draft to be considered for OpsAWG adoption. It was presented
>and discussed somewhat at IETF91 in Dallas - there was a question
>raised about similarities / overlap with
>draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel (which lies with the IESG). After
>some discussions we have decided that these documents complement each
>other, and so ask the WG to consider
>draft-you-opsawg-capwap-separation-for-mp for adoption.
>
>We would like 4-5 people to commit to editing and contributing to the
>document, and a similar number to commit to reviewing it.
>
>The draft is available here:
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-you-opsawg-capwap-separation-for-mp
>/
>
>Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for
>adoption by OpsAWG,
>and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>
>Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
>
>This call for adoption ends Thu 09-Jul-2015.
>
>In addition, to satisfy RFC 6702 ("Promoting Compliance with
>Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)"):
>If you are personally aware of any IPR that applies to
>draft-you-opsawg-capwap-separation-for-mp, has this IPR been disclosed
>in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and
>5378 for more details.)
>
>
>Thanks,
>Warren Kumari
>(as OpsAWG WG co-chair)
>
>
>--=20
>I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
>idea in the first place.
>This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
>of pants.
>   ---maf
>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Operations and Management Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : CAPWAP Extension for 802.11n and Power/channel Autoconfiguration
        Authors         : Yifan Chen
                          Dapeng Liu
                          Hui Deng
                          Lei Zhu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-extension-06.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2015-07-06

Abstract:
   The CAPWAP binding for 802.11 is specified by RFC5416 and it was
   based on IEEE 802-11.2007 standard.  Several new amendments of 802.11
   have been published since RFC5416 was published in 2009.  802.11n is
   one of those amendments and it has been widely used in real
   deployment.  This document extends the CAPWAP binding for 802.11 to
   support 802.11n and also defines a power and channel auto
   configuration extension.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-extension/

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https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-extension-06


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Hi, we will be having informal bar-bof-type sessions on
IBNEMO (Intend Based NEtwork MOdeling).


     time: Monday 13:00-15:00,

     room: Tyrolka

     notes: We will have a room and projector, so that we can show the demo and have a free discussion.

     #2

     time: Thursday evening after Bits & Bites

     place: Meet at the Registration desk ~20:00
               We will try to get a room for that too.

Please come and join us for these discussions if you can.

Bert


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Again - I thought that we were avoiding bar-bof session scheduled during me=
eting time.=20

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bert Wijnen
> (IETF)
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:16 AM
> To: ops-area@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org
> Subject: [OPSAWG] IBNEMO bar-bof session
>=20
> Hi, we will be having informal bar-bof-type sessions on IBNEMO (Intend
> Based NEtwork MOdeling).
>=20
>=20
>      time: Monday 13:00-15:00,
>=20
>      room: Tyrolka
>=20
>      notes: We will have a room and projector, so that we can show the de=
mo
> and have a free discussion.
>=20
>      #2
>=20
>      time: Thursday evening after Bits & Bites
>=20
>      place: Meet at the Registration desk ~20:00
>                We will try to get a room for that too.
>=20
> Please come and join us for these discussions if you can.
>=20
> Bert
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On 20/07/15 10:41, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Again - I thought that we were avoiding bar-bof session scheduled during meeting time.

the one for this afternoon was already planned and agreed to by AD Alia Atlas.

The one on Thursday is to address your concern and not run in paralell with regular IETF sessions.
We hope to have more technical experts (that are busy during normal/regular  ietf sessions) on
Thursday.

We'll try to do better next time
Bert
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bert Wijnen
>> (IETF)
>> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:16 AM
>> To: ops-area@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org
>> Subject: [OPSAWG] IBNEMO bar-bof session
>>
>> Hi, we will be having informal bar-bof-type sessions on IBNEMO (Intend
>> Based NEtwork MOdeling).
>>
>>
>>       time: Monday 13:00-15:00,
>>
>>       room: Tyrolka
>>
>>       notes: We will have a room and projector, so that we can show the demo
>> and have a free discussion.
>>
>>       #2
>>
>>       time: Thursday evening after Bits & Bites
>>
>>       place: Meet at the Registration desk ~20:00
>>                 We will try to get a room for that too.
>>
>> Please come and join us for these discussions if you can.
>>
>> Bert
>>
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A second side-bar (bar-bof) meeting of IBNemo meeting will occur at 8pm (20:00) in the
Budapest meeting room mezzanine level.

Bert

On 20/07/15 10:15, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote:
> Hi, we will be having informal bar-bof-type sessions on
> IBNEMO (Intend Based NEtwork MOdeling).
>
>
>      time: Monday 13:00-15:00,
>
>      room: Tyrolka
>
>      notes: We will have a room and projector, so that we can show the demo and have a free discussion.
>
>      #2
>
>      time: Thursday evening after Bits & Bites
>
>      place: Meet at the Registration desk ~20:00
>                We will try to get a room for that too.
>
> Please come and join us for these discussions if you can.
>
> Bert
>
> _______________________________________________
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Subject: [OPSAWG] Correction: IBNEMO bar-bof session Thursday 20:00 in Budapest (LOBBY level)
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My apologies, the Budapest room is NOT at the Mezzanine level, but at the LOBBY level.

Bert

On 22/07/15 14:38, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote:
> A second side-bar (bar-bof) meeting of IBNemo meeting will occur at 8pm (20:00) in the
> Budapest meeting room mezzanine level.
>
> Bert
>
> On 20/07/15 10:15, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote:
>> Hi, we will be having informal bar-bof-type sessions on
>> IBNEMO (Intend Based NEtwork MOdeling).
>>
>>
>>      time: Monday 13:00-15:00,
>>
>>      room: Tyrolka
>>
>>      notes: We will have a room and projector, so that we can show the demo and have a free discussion.
>>
>>      #2
>>
>>      time: Thursday evening after Bits & Bites
>>
>>      place: Meet at the Registration desk ~20:00
>>                We will try to get a room for that too.
>>
>> Please come and join us for these discussions if you can.
>>
>> Bert
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