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Greetings,

Unless I missed something, it seems that a vital porrtion 
of the text of Section 5 was dropped in going from -05 to 
-06.  One possible fix would be to reinstate it as follows:

OLD:
   4.  In all other cases, DHCPv6-Shield MUST pass the packet as usual.
NEW:
   4.  When parsing the IPv6 header chain, if the packet is identified	 	   
       to be a DHCPv6 packet meant for a DHCPv6 client, DHCPv6-Shield 
       MUST drop the packet, and ought to log the packet drop event in 
       an implementation-specific manner as a security alert.

   5.  In all other cases, DHCPv6-Shield MUST pass the packet as usual.
END.

Thanks,

Mike Heard

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF.
> 
>         Title           : DHCPv6-Shield: Protecting Against Rogue DHCPv6 Servers
>         Authors         : Fernando Gont
>                           Will Liu
>                           Gunter Van de Velde
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-06.txt
> 	Pages           : 10
> 	Date            : 2015-02-25
> 
> Abstract:
>    This document specifies a mechanism for protecting hosts connected to
>    a switched network against rogue DHCPv6 servers.  It is based on
>    DHCPv6 packet-filtering at the layer-2 device at which the packets
>    are received.  A similar mechanism has been widely deployed in IPv4
>    networks ('DHCP snooping'), and hence it is desirable that similar
>    functionality be provided for IPv6 networks.  This document specifies
>    a Best Current Practice for the implementation of DHCPv6 Shield.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Operational Security Considerations for IPv6 Networks
        Authors         : Kiran K. Chittimaneni
                          Merike Kaeo
                          Eric Vyncke
	Filename        : draft-ietf-opsec-v6-06.txt
	Pages           : 41
	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
   Knowledge and experience on how to operate IPv4 securely is
   available: whether it is the Internet or an enterprise internal
   network.  However, IPv6 presents some new security challenges.  RFC
   4942 describes the security issues in the protocol but network
   managers also need a more practical, operations-minded document to
   enumerate advantages and/or disadvantages of certain choices.

   This document analyzes the operational security issues in all places
   of a network (service providers, enterprises and residential users)
   and proposes technical and procedural mitigations techniques.


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As an author on one the the docs that motivated this work I am
interested in when and how ND implementations go kaboom.

On 3/12/15 8:53 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote:
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>>> We've been discussing a draft for Benchmarking Neighbor Discovery
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>>>
>>> Our new charter includes IPv6ND, so we ask
>>> everyone to take a look (by March 18th)
>>> and express comments/support.
>>>
>>> The latest draft is here:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cerveny-bmwg-ipv6-nd-06
>>>
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On 2/10/15 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
> wrote:
>> Not sure what the "(as opposed to an extension header)" means.
>> Could you elaborate/clarify a bit?
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> What I'm proposing is that unknown codes can be assumed to be
> extension headers.   Any known code may be either an extension header
> or a protocol header, but then it's a known code, so not a problem.
> But rereading the text, that parenthetical does seem unnecessary.
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> Anyway, it sounds like we now have some text to argue about that we
> might be able to agree on, so I will defer to you on tweaking it--I
> just wanted to give you a sense of what I had in mind.   The main
> thing I want to avoid is a recommendation that the basic shield
> algorithm by default drop unknown extension and transport headers,
> but I agree that it's good to say what to do if the hardware can't
> support that fully.

We got a new version of this draft on 2/25 which I kinda of lost track
of in the midst of two IESG review calls.

http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=3D--hwdiff&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-opsec=
-dhcpv6-shield-06.txt

It stops short of  my interpretation  of Ted's position, with the
reordered and clarified test in section 3. the new explanatory text in
in the security considerations:

   The recommendations in this document represent the ideal behavior of
   a DHCPv6 shield device.  However, in order to implement DHCPv6 shield
   on the fast path, it may be necessary to limit the depth into the
   packet that can be scanned before giving up.  In circumstances where
   there is such a limitation, it is recommended that implementations
   drop packets after attempting to find a protocol header up to that
   limit, whatever it is.  Ideally, such devices should be configurable
   with a list of protocol header identifiers so that if new transport
   protocols are standardized after the device is released, they can be
   added to the list of protocol header types that the device
   recognizes.  Since any protocol header that is not a UDP header would
   be passed by the DHCPv6 shield algorithm, this would allow such
   devices to avoid blocking the use of new transport protocols.  When
   an implementation must stop searching for recognizable header types
   in a packet due to such limitations, whether the device passes or
   drop that packet SHOULD be configurable.



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On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, joel jaeggli wrote:
> We got a new version of this draft on 2/25 which I kinda of lost track
> of in the midst of two IESG review calls.
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&url2=draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-06.txt
> 
> It stops short of  my interpretation  of Ted's position, with the
> reordered and clarified test in section 3. 

The text in Section 3 seems to have dropped the step saying that if 
the packet is identified to be a DHCPv6 packet meant for a DHCPv6 
client then DHCPv6-Shield MUST drop the packet.

The new explanatory text in the security considerations looks good 
to me.


//cmh


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Recommendations on Filtering of IPv6 Packets Containing IPv6 Extension Headers
        Authors         : Fernando Gont
                          Will(Shucheng) Liu
                          Ronald P. Bonica
	Filename        : draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
	Pages           : 31
	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
   It is common operator practice to mitigate security risks by
   enforcing appropriate packet filtering.  This document analyzes both
   the general security implications of IPv6 Extension Headers and the
   specific security implications of each Extension Header and Option
   type, and provides advice on the filtering of IPv6 packets based on
   the IPv6 Extension Headers and the IPv6 options they contain.
   Additionally, it discusses the operational and interoperability
   implications of discarding packets based on the IPv6 Extension
   Headers and IPv6 options they contain.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering/

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Dear All,

This is a call for volunteers for the OPSEC WG meeting at IETF92.

Please let me know if you are willing to volunteer to take notes or to =
be scribe.

Brgds,
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Hi, Gunter,

I can do minutes off-line (from the audio/meetecho recordings) if that's
of help.

Thanks!
Fernando




On 03/25/2015 10:30 AM, Gunter Van De Velde wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> This is a call for volunteers for the OPSEC WG meeting at IETF92.
> 
> Please let me know if you are willing to volunteer to take notes or to be scribe.
> 
> Brgds,
> G/
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