From nobody Thu Apr 4 06:06:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietf.org Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A59120145; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 06:06:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: opsec@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: opsec@ietf.org Message-ID: <155438316507.31008.7163274736101691169@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 06:06:05 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [OPSEC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02.txt X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 13:06:05 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure WG of the IETF. Title : Enhanced Feasible-Path Unicast Reverse Path Filtering Authors : Kotikalapudi Sriram Doug Montgomery Jeffrey Haas Filename : draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2019-04-04 Abstract: This document identifies a need for improvement of the unicast Reverse Path Filtering techniques (uRPF) [BCP84] for source address validation (SAV) [BCP38]. The strict uRPF is inflexible about directionality, the loose uRPF is oblivious to directionality, and the current feasible-path uRPF attempts to strike a balance between the two [BCP84]. However, as shown in this draft, the existing feasible-path uRPF still has shortcomings. This document describes an enhanced feasible-path uRPF technique, which aims to be more flexible (in a meaningful way) about directionality than the feasible-path uRPF. It can potentially alleviate ISPs' concerns about the possibility of disrupting service for their customers, and encourage greater deployment of uRPF techniques. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Significant changes based on WG adoption call comments/discussion last Apri= l were already included in -01.=20 Thanks. Sriram ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------- =20 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP N= etwork Infrastructure WG of the IETF. Title : Enhanced Feasible-Path Unicast Reverse Path Filte= ring Authors : Kotikalapudi Sriram Doug Montgomery Jeffrey Haas Filename : draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2019-04-04 Abstract: This document identifies a need for improvement of the unicast Reverse Path Filtering techniques (uRPF) [BCP84] for source address validation (SAV) [BCP38]. The strict uRPF is inflexible about directionality, the loose uRPF is oblivious to directionality, and the current feasible-path uRPF attempts to strike a balance between the two [BCP84]. However, as shown in this draft, the existing feasible-path uRPF still has shortcomings. This document describes an enhanced feasible-path uRPF technique, which aims to be more flexible (in a meaningful way) about directionality than the feasible-path uRPF. It can potentially alleviate ISPs' concerns about the possibility of disrupting service for their customers, and encourage greater deployment of uRPF techniques. 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Sriram ________________________________________ From: Jeff Haas Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:09 AM To: Ron Bonica Cc: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org Subject: Re: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements > On Apr 4, 2019, at 10:05, Ron Bonica wrote: > > Authors, > > Do you know of any IPR against this draft? 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X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 14:22:12 -0000 --00000000000026ef370585c93643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Opsec and Jen, I'd like to firstly thank =C3=89ric Vyncke for having served as the OpSec c= hair. He was recently appointed as one of the Int Area Directors, and no longer has the time to serve as OpSec chair. I've decided (after consulting with Eric and Ron) to appoint Jen Linkova to serve in this role -- please take a minute to thank Eric for his service, and welcome Jen. W --=20 I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf --00000000000026ef370585c93643 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=C2=A0Opsec and Jen,
I'd like to firstly thank=C2=A0=C3=89ric Vyncke for having served as = the OpSec chair. He was recently appointed as one of the Int Area Directors= , and no longer has the time to serve as OpSec chair.

I've decide= d (after consulting with Eric and Ron) to appoint Jen Linkova to serve in t= his role -- please take a minute to thank Eric for his service, and welcome= Jen.

W

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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a= bad idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your= pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid= weasels and that pair of pants.
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So I expect this message will be subject to moderation). At Fri, 29 Mar 2019 06:18:37 +0100, Fred Baker wrote: > Yesterday, the authors of an opec draft asked us for comments on their draft, which is in a second WGLC in opec (opsec@ietf.org). You may have missed the character string: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 > "Operational Security Considerations for IPv6 Networks", Eric Vyncke, > Chittimaneni Kk, Merike Kaeo, Enno Rey, 2019-03-11, > > I'd encourage people to read it and comment on the opec list. One quick comment, in case no one pointed it out: Section 2.3.3 refers to I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6 as follows: [...] Another way to secure DHCPv6 would be to use the secure DHCPv6 protocol which is currently work in progress per [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6] , but, with no real deployment known by the authors of this document. In my understanding, this draft is effectively dead rather than just missing deployment. There may be yet another attempt of restarting it in future, but I see no indication of it right now. Even if the work is eventually restarted it will be something completely different from the current latest draft. So I'd suggest either: - just remove this sentence, or - if you want to keep the reference, make it more consistent with the current situation, like: There was a proposal of secure DHCPv6 protocol [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6], but the work has been effectively suspended and there is no indication of a restart anytime soon. -- JINMEI, Tatuya --00000000000099736c05861c909a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Note: I don't subscribe to opsec@ietf.org.=C2=A0 So I expect this messa= ge
will be subject to moderation).

At Fri, 29 Mar 2019 06:18:37 += 0100,
Fred Baker <fredbak= er.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yesterday, the authors of an o= pec draft asked us for comments on their draft, which is in a second WGLC i= n opec (opsec@ietf.org). You may have= missed the character string:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft= -ietf-opsec-v6
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6
>=C2= =A0=C2=A0 "Operational Security Considerations for IPv6 Networks"= , Eric Vyncke,
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Chittimaneni Kk, Merike Kaeo, Enno Rey, = 2019-03-11,
>
> I'd encourage people to read it and commen= t on the opec list.

One quick comment, in case no one pointed it out= : Section 2.3.3 refers
to I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6 as follows:

=C2= =A0=C2=A0 [...] Another way to secure
=C2=A0=C2=A0 DHCPv6 would be to us= e the secure DHCPv6 protocol which is currently
=C2=A0=C2=A0 work in pro= gress per [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6] , but, with no real
=C2=A0=C2=A0 deplo= yment known by the authors of this document.

In my understanding, th= is draft is effectively dead rather than just
missing deployment.=C2=A0 = There may be yet another attempt of restarting it
in future, but I see n= o indication of it right now.=C2=A0 Even if the work
is eventually resta= rted it will be something completely different from
the current latest d= raft.=C2=A0 So I'd suggest either:
- just remove this sentence, or- if you want to keep the reference, make it more consistent with the
= =C2=A0 current situation, like:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There was a proposal = of secure DHCPv6 protocol [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6],
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 bu= t the work has been effectively suspended and there is no
=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 indication of a restart anytime soon.

--
JINMEI, Tatuya
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([2600:8802:5600:164::1002]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k17sm6166921eja.41.2019.04.09.14.31.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Baker Message-Id: <5D4BAD99-D920-4AAA-9E1D-A9C931BC73B1@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CCBEE20E-0239-4177-999F-43D20FBA4868"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 14:31:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: IPv6 Operations , opsec@ietf.org To: =?utf-8?B?56We5piO6YGU5ZOJ?= References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] draft-ietf-opsec-v6 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 21:32:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CCBEE20E-0239-4177-999F-43D20FBA4868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I do subscribe, so this note may accomplish the goal. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6/ says that = [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6] is "dead" from the IESG's perspective. They have = asked for a revised draft, over two years ago, and none has been posted. > On Apr 9, 2019, at 10:48 AM, =E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5=93=89 = wrote: >=20 > (Note: I don't subscribe to opsec@ietf.org. So I expect this message > will be subject to moderation). >=20 > At Fri, 29 Mar 2019 06:18:37 +0100, > Fred Baker wrote: >=20 > > Yesterday, the authors of an opec draft asked us for comments on = their draft, which is in a second WGLC in opec (opsec@ietf.org). You may = have missed the character string: > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 > > "Operational Security Considerations for IPv6 Networks", Eric = Vyncke, > > Chittimaneni Kk, Merike Kaeo, Enno Rey, 2019-03-11, > > > > I'd encourage people to read it and comment on the opec list. >=20 > One quick comment, in case no one pointed it out: Section 2.3.3 refers > to I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6 as follows: >=20 > [...] Another way to secure > DHCPv6 would be to use the secure DHCPv6 protocol which is = currently > work in progress per [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6] , but, with no real > deployment known by the authors of this document. >=20 > In my understanding, this draft is effectively dead rather than just > missing deployment. There may be yet another attempt of restarting it > in future, but I see no indication of it right now. Even if the work > is eventually restarted it will be something completely different from > the current latest draft. So I'd suggest either: > - just remove this sentence, or > - if you want to keep the reference, make it more consistent with the > current situation, like: > There was a proposal of secure DHCPv6 protocol = [I-D.ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6], > but the work has been effectively suspended and there is no > indication of a restart anytime soon. >=20 > -- > JINMEI, Tatuya = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ The fact that there is a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven is an = interesting comment on projected traffic volume... --Apple-Mail=_CCBEE20E-0239-4177-999F-43D20FBA4868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEctjlJjQmVrp9uMq7EhdRnd2GP+AFAlytD0oACgkQEhdRnd2G P+Cv8A/9FK/+mTQW3UyHAgj5SStBMDJScvWAFQbgYLqLFsclEcj+cg4Q5mXDldGb 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from 67.159.150.85 (EHLO [192.168.1.2]) ([67.159.150.85]) by smtp401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2209f7db3292388cde6b56ef641a91e9; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:14:47 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/10.16.1.190220 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:14:44 -0700 From: Mehmet Adalier To: Ron Bonica , "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org" Message-ID: <7917728C-0E48-49EA-B0B6-AE277787690A@antarateknik.com> Thread-Topic: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:14:54 -0000 I have reviewed the updated draft =E2=80=9CEnhanced Feasible-Path Unicast Reverse= Path Filtering=E2=80=9D (draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02). This is a well written document and I believe the proposed method is certai= nly a more practical and effective way of implementing Source Address Valida= tion. The Algorithms A and B provide specificity to the method and should as= sist the operators to better implement the recommendations. The impact on th= e FIB Memory is clearly described and quantified. Overall, I feel that this = document will be a valuable Best Current Practice to operators. I support ad= vancing the document. Mehmet Adalier Antara Teknik LLC =EF=BB=BFOn 4/4/19, 7:04 AM, "OPSEC on behalf of Ron Bonica" wrote: Folks, =20 This message initiates a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-u= rpf-improvements-02. 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[77.250.131.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r9sm12663584wmh.38.2019.04.14.08.27.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Apr 2019 08:27:11 -0700 (PDT) To: Ron Bonica , "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org" References: From: Andrei Robachevsky Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=andrei.robachevsky@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQGiBD8L4TQRBACI+LX/GwEK23h5OXLU7iPeZc8FJ0ywH1vVqY/gT8VCs7YzbG4GNV6omEqa 0sDBF/eYKzLC5PfaKkHeAJ51eVIcDqYDhqYNlaxr5XPWWYjOIGvVRDmp4RKxhhDgXgKMmisW RrMCCP1njNQEWYtuB64UUNit1VXbQXn2FBpEXisqxwCg6hZK7Seg5md07iu9lYQx5rng+C0D /2TkPt4t80x3Iw8WV7TSLKdEQMRG42FMIFbaZIKbiEwvfaZYNrOckxdTr8l8LvwxNxHePsVi 1sqjBR8iwtogvLhSudqXxXsj2BiYfGSpTJoiVRPKdlEzo3i1mFPV/dNTSjovzWz5c21nW9kK fUIY43sLD5aynB9WITl9O6iawOrxA/0cOwOOVrpwHdLg+Uxb9y8C/1mx3o307hZDbn84Zare aiQNOn+ETI45ucON72OoMnuaBs3fJOoreXoaOSIxuM5gSQDY/SyDqncPhZmQX8yA52fuc3Ol 8qBjEomymafFymRUFvphEr/KD9BpyBZqM41zrT5VEu2tk/ga5T+bC79W77QxQW5kcmVpIFJv YmFjaGV2c2t5IDxhbmRyZWkucm9iYWNoZXZza3lAZ21haWwuY29tPoh5BBMRCgA5AhsjBgsJ CAcDAgYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBGtZeFNYETVQoSYbeZY8+bWZrYo/BQJadGb/AAoJ EJY8+bWZrYo/pGgAoNlUk0Nu3km8dAtzOlrN5bveacodAJ4jwG65QN2EhvnTgHGQEybn9IjN 0LkBDQQ/C+E1EAQAvRN7YTDiGXS9OPLX5yDKBtvjQaR38t5zpi0ltuC5JITDKZdM6/9PCfJq QnMy+ngrI3VQdhxbduFrC5fBszo1vVMTwKrTD6D7BEsEgC3wNE5NzfzE/fjl0LkQMEf5Vxns jvbtYw2jfoyJFig2gdW4ojmBCge16RZwx7vK7Pn0z6MAAwYEAJ7zZZCCU2DZ/gPdfB3xPZVm 7XSMpG6GBz4mFGgJW/QeC2quqoKBeAEgf0icEM8ykEAPmpy8f6j0Fwe/qz/SgxOXfTlvH8O7 md6rx2t2D+1PM2PlYzwO37U5fqnPuzp5KMXlPPryuTWZmObgZMHHsko9BbpIcqNHqUNXzNwk +gjkiEYEGBECAAYFAj8L4TUACgkQljz5tZmtij/lFQCdGIvMimtJEiYiPIZYSvXI6hx8WOQA oMj/ni+WopJxWu947/5RyWR6AUpH Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:27:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2ZMAkJCZqDwJzNkYN9tVckA6egNo75Qi6" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 15:27:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2ZMAkJCZqDwJzNkYN9tVckA6egNo75Qi6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IXixOsDR223nLATVN76F4Ud0gOCwAP4jW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Andrei Robachevsky To: Ron Bonica , "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 References: In-Reply-To: --IXixOsDR223nLATVN76F4Ud0gOCwAP4jW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I read the draft and I think it is ready to progress. In my opinion, the suggested approach is an improvement over current uRPF modes and will hopefully increase confidence in the deployment of anti-spoofing controls= =2E Regards, Andrei Ron Bonica wrote on 04/04/2019 16:04: > Folks, >=20 > This message initiates a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-u= rpf-improvements-02. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nist.gov X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: d25063fe-6f71-412c-a466-08d6c1b179f5 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 Apr 2019 14:48:51.7846 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2ab5d82f-d8fa-4797-a93e-054655c61dec X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN6PR09MB3168 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:48:59 -0000 I read through the draft. It is very well written and I like to see it adva= ncing.=20 I support the WLC. =20 Oliver ----------------------------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology (Phone) 301.975.4856 , (Fax) 301.975.6238 -----Original Message----- From: OPSEC On Behalf Of Ron Bonica Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 10:04 AM To: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org Subject: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 Folks, This message initiates a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-= improvements-02. Last call will end at COB on 4/18/2019. Ron Non-Juniper _______________________________________________ OPSEC mailing list OPSEC@ietf.org https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.iet= f.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fopsec&data=3D02%7C01%7Coliver.borchert%40n= ist.gov%7C773eaabe5027472319c708d6b90679ff%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61d= ec%7C1%7C0%7C636899834800519270&sdata=3DQEr5%2FoswyZOuf800vZswciMG3%2Bu= HmHPeYyxs1thWdpM%3D&reserved=3D0 From nobody Mon Apr 15 18:23:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6D31202F8 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:23:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CVvzWO2s7N6R for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x134.google.com (mail-it1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB7A01202E5 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x134.google.com with SMTP id y134so30371187itc.5 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:23:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RtmAna7wH1gC3dPdlqIo3zNGn2F3uDqrj0hwwRFYnYc=; b=k3Fcv+Uawa0QPOEpi4KHoxUV78y+NTCjFSXV1WaTczJD7WVCCHjnG5Na9n/vbpVHlW U7gvzAlPpHE892Nb4JZU9vSFHyQl/vqFXjczmqaIX0HY210Ec0Lb2F6SQEwvGSycK8t/ aMQ13Aj89q1Enocd6Bsnyni4qPfAgUoUPJnrt2ffZZTgRBHOSzU/Oa7ctHNkzT1mHr5W 4O9Vj6E8mqDz42qRg7bn/OYVVgndYJY4FZEFnVT/HK1d/SGRipiRbLO1M2mvcTWaFI6T qbIIsB/n+jSa+iv0R5tbvp7u6Au5eDdvmFb77p4SEIOEQpIBdVXSI8L5RXDsQG7q5IOt S/dw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RtmAna7wH1gC3dPdlqIo3zNGn2F3uDqrj0hwwRFYnYc=; b=FFCbV+sasMnYB3slpzf9gquZIGhN8/39gc74RjwIj9uUdgjjY0PUBaCT7IH/CJkwRl HIHG8e1l6FLd661FLbYQ7jGduSJe14s8yd2oh3cjORxCxS39wCPKbdCX8JdF9ordNfqS wq0BmfWzxIY+ukP5V+Oq/fTBJZ5y/HGGbbM/7v0o0ysjDYlbT4knyDyC9Z2romdFq7tL h7/Z/Pxr61glm0eTWpTUyf+1r21wdLg1MyfA1B/5MwkFgbFzKcJAim11kv3P5JBY2rt3 wmfbUICjVL0xUsVnOu22AOqqXzWzbGnjI3Ku6CpWLcWuOvTLCWG1+y1mM6ZQG3QIfL41 k70Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUZJrsWX3QfatkXwLHZqHOcISzeV+PfHOyWKeTD2PBH6/hG9G2r 26nBTHLl7UG0MmI62dnUV6xIV8SdbtqnaP45QP7MaKe/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzn1igdktWOpnJBmqYLZpVmkNPdaVtX63od69g8xT9n9VeCZrcIashZ7a1Aw9UpwrmYLBXTPXxnuvt5rgrRsMU= X-Received: by 2002:a24:791:: with SMTP id f139mr26717837itf.73.1555377820797; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:23:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Amir Herzberg Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: opsec@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000080114d05869b9eeb" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:23:44 -0000 --00000000000080114d05869b9eeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear opsec, I have reviewed the updated draft `Enhanced Feasible-Path Unicast Reverse Path Filtering' (draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02). This is a well written document and I believe the proposed method is certainly a more practical and effective way of implementing Source Address Validation. I believe that this document will be a valuable Best Current Practice to operators. I support advancing the document. BTW, I'm covering SAV in general, and uRPF in particular, in my `foundations of cybersecurity' lectures - and this would also be in the text, although I believe that the relevant chapter is still in very early shape. But the lecture is available... follow link below if you are interested, comments welcome. -- Amir Herzberg Comcast professor for security innovation Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, University of Connecticut Foundations of Cybersecurity: https://www.researchgate.net/project/Lecture-notes-on-Introduction-to-Cyber-Security Homepage: https://sites.google.com/site/amirherzberg/home --00000000000080114d05869b9eeb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear opsec,


I have revi= ewed the updated draft `Enhanced Feasible-Path Unicast Reverse Path Filteri= ng' (draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02).
This is a well written document and I beli= eve the proposed method is certainly a more practical and effective way of = implementing Source Address Validation.=C2=A0

I believe that this docum= ent will be a valuable Best Current Practice to operators. I support advanc= ing the document.


=
BTW, I'm covering SAV in general, and uRPF i= n particular, in my `foundations of cybersecurity' lectures - and this = would also be in the text, although I believe that the relevant chapter is = still in very early shape. But the lecture is available... follow link belo= w if you are interested, comments welcome.=C2=A0
--=C2=A0
Amir Herzberg
=
Comcast professor for security innovation
Dept. of Computer Science and Engineeri= ng, University of Connecticut

--00000000000080114d05869b9eeb-- From nobody Thu Apr 18 14:54:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2642B1203E1; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.339 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.339 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, KHOP_DYNAMIC=1.363, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4V6XKo1F9WbP; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com [IPv6:2620:100:9001:583::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 907E21203E9; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0122332.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x3ILqsrt010680; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:54:09 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=jan2016.eng; bh=/Jn0e5X6tPLY1uBa4FGI02FlEeyZxOCSr/5RFUBqFQY=; b=ZEMN7va+D98AahindrPmwTtPkAbtjO7FiUetCl1dEYaEVs2uc84A9Aqv7BTQhU1FOCLJ B0VzvzYlAUBCvL/PN6SL2YHpF37auDPpwWg6nch5oc/da023MvagL6URKji45GnKzc9q GZUZs8J+MMB6tUkTLgttOuiCdQ7QiJfUYZWdGpeRT1uD0RgZEIHtXAcCyjIdKZQT7ojR 536abmZApaCSCpRFZnpo+bGYNNSKpZqJaLPxqHU06UucLfgt7a7c+QUBt3F9G8oUM0LI rFpdumraOXjLM111ORzzdb8ch15hvw0UD42tUCzcAVJF3Tz6dj+AK1GuHm9FDs6XQL9m Jw== Received: from prod-mail-ppoint4 (prod-mail-ppoint4.akamai.com [96.6.114.87] (may be forged)) by mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2rxtpqheeb-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:54:09 +0100 Received: from pps.filterd (prod-mail-ppoint4.akamai.com [127.0.0.1]) by prod-mail-ppoint4.akamai.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x3ILWOJg016820; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:54:08 -0400 Received: from email.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.34]) by prod-mail-ppoint4.akamai.com with ESMTP id 2rub3vqure-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:54:08 -0400 Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB5.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.105) by usma1ex-dag1mb3.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:54:06 -0400 Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB5.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.105]) by usma1ex-dag1mb5.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.105]) with mapi id 15.00.1473.003; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:54:07 -0400 From: "Lubashev, Igor" To: Ron Bonica , "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 Thread-Index: AdTq7wx+AUPz0gXiQFWZG7KWOvJavwLQKZ1g Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:54:06 +0000 Message-ID: <32dddaae3c71401294bb4760f5671e64@usma1ex-dag1mb5.msg.corp.akamai.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [172.19.152.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-04-18_11:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=882 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1904180127 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-04-18_11:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=883 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1904180128 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:54:13 -0000 I have reviewed the updated draft. It is well written and addresses a real= problem. The draft describes a viable mechanism to improve SAV for comple= x deployments, and I am particularly pleased that it allows for incremental= deployment. I support advancing the document. - Igor > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Bonica > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 10:04 AM > To: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org > Subject: [OPSEC] WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 >=20 > Folks, >=20 > This message initiates a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-urp= f- > improvements-02. 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Sandra, Please provide the shepherds writeup Ron Non-Juniper > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Bonica > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 7:04 AM > To: 'opsec@ietf.org' ; 'draft-ietf-opsec-urpf- > improvements@ietf.org' > Subject: WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 >=20 > Folks, >=20 > This message initiates a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-urp= f- > improvements-02. 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Thanks also to many WG members for comments, suggestions, and feedback prov= ided to the authors. Sriram=20 ________________________________________ From: Ron Bonica Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:30 PM To: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements@ietf.org Subject: RE: WGLC: draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-02 Folks, This ends the WG LC on draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements. Sandra, Please provide the shepherds writeup Ron Non-Juniper