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Juniper Business Use Only From: WGChairs On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 7:48 AM To: IETF WG Chairs Subject: Fwd: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IETF meeting= s [External Email. Be cautious of content] Please circulate this to your working group lists. The survey data will be = very important as we plan future IETF meetings. Thanks, Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: IETF Executive Director > Subject: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IETF meetings Date: May 4, 2020 at 3:03:35 AM EDT To: "IETF Announcement List" > Reply-To: ietf108planning@ietf.org This is a reminder that we need the IETF community to help us plan for the = possibility that one or more upcoming IETF meetings in 2020 and possibly 20= 21 may not be able to go ahead in person. You can help us with this by fil= ling out the following survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more. The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes to comp= lete: 1. Welcome 2. Online IETF 107 and the subsequent virtual interims 3. Replacing a cancelled in-person meeting 4. Online meeting format and timezone 5. Replicating humming 6. Replicating the hallway environment 7. Fees 8. Thanks and anything else We run the survey in anonymous mode which means that we only see data that = you explicitly provide. Thank you in advance for your help. -- Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce Juniper Business Use Only --_000_DM6PR05MB6348A82C61B76058868468D7AEA70DM6PR05MB6348namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Please take this survey…

 

 

 

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From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org&= gt; On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 7:48 AM
To: IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Fwd: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IETF = meetings

 

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Please circulate this to your working group lists. T= he survey data will be very important as we plan future IETF meetings.

 

Thanks,

Alissa

 

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From: IETF Execu= tive Director <exec-director@i= etf.org>

Subject: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IETF = meetings

Date: May 4, 202= 0 at 3:03:35 AM EDT

To: "IETF= Announcement List" <ietf= -announce@ietf.org>

 

This is a reminder that we need the IETF community t= o help us plan for the possibility that one or more upcoming IETF meetings = in 2020 and possibly 2021 may not be able to go ahead in person.  You = can help us with this by filling out the following survey:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ

So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more.

The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes to comp= lete:

1. Welcome
2. Online IETF 107 and the subsequent virtual interims
3. Replacing a cancelled in-person meeting
4. Online meeting format and timezone
5. Replicating humming
6. Replicating the hallway environment
7. Fees
8. Thanks and anything else

We run the survey in anonymous mode which means that we only see data that = you explicitly provide.

Thank you in advance for your help.

--
Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair
Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director
Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair

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Does anybody know of a document that provides genera= l recommendations for ACL’s to be implemented on service provider edg= e nodes?

 

 

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--_000_DM6PR05MB63482CC7CA9B536EF87FE830AEB10DM6PR05MB6348namp_-- From nobody Thu May 28 10:47:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F13A0AAF; Thu, 28 May 2020 10:47:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cw8ZJa-7vfNL; Thu, 28 May 2020 10:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagasaki.bogus.com (nagasaki.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC35E3A0AAE; Thu, 28 May 2020 10:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2601:1c0:cb00:da11:c40b:c23b:c67e:4609] ([IPv6:2601:1c0:cb00:da11:c40b:c23b:c67e:4609]) (authenticated bits=0) by nagasaki.bogus.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 04SHlZ9h001578; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:47:36 GMT (envelope-from joelja@bogus.com) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F6D93324-9D25-4A5C-ACAC-C0383635DEEF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Jaeggli Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 10:47:34 -0700 Message-Id: <01A76B3C-348A-4511-95D2-1FF975483CD0@bogus.com> References: Cc: OPSEC , John Scudder In-Reply-To: To: Ron Bonica X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17E262) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] ACLs on SP edge nodes X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 17:47:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail-F6D93324-9D25-4A5C-ACAC-C0383635DEEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2020, at 14:21, Ron Bonica wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Folks, > =20 > Does anybody know of a document that provides general recommendations for A= CL=E2=80=99s to be implemented on service provider edge nodes? > =20 I would suspect the to be substantial variation on what people consider acce= ptable to drop but a highly limited number of things that everyone would con= sider acceptable. By in large if you=E2=80=99re a transit provider your cust= omers are paying for unmolested internet.=20 Some folks have ntp rate limits baked into their input acls due to mon_getli= st that would be good to unbake. At this point you could probably recomend p= olicy that would prevent the legacy issues but it=E2=80=99s also likely to b= e controversial Protection of infrastructure space is a substantial portion of Edge acls I=E2= =80=99ve implemented. RFC 6192 policies writ large E.g. overlap with control= plane acl figure prominently there. BCP 38 and 84 are things that notionally get applied to customer facing edge= s hopefully not strict when dealing with multi homed networks. Martian filters again bcp 84 but also bcp 171 and RFC 5735 are things that a= ppear in input acls. Sometimes these are implemented as null routes from bgp= route reflectors or contributed protocols rather than ACLs. > = Ron > =20 >=20 > Juniper Business Use Only > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec --Apple-Mail-F6D93324-9D25-4A5C-ACAC-C0383635DEEF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On May 27, 2020, at 14= :21, Ron Bonica <rbonica=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF =

Folks,

 

Does anybody know of a document that provides general= recommendations for ACL=E2=80=99s to be implemented on service provider edg= e nodes?

 

I would suspect the to be substantial variation on what people consi= der acceptable to drop but a highly limited number of things that everyone w= ould consider acceptable. By in large if you=E2=80=99re a transit provider y= our customers are paying for unmolested internet. 

S= ome folks have ntp rate limits baked into their input acls due to mon_getlis= t that would be good to unbake. At this point you could probably recomend po= licy that would prevent the legacy issues but it=E2=80=99s also likely to be= controversial

Protection of infrastructure space i= s a substantial portion of Edge acls I=E2=80=99ve implemented. RFC 6192 poli= cies writ large E.g. overlap with control plane acl   figure prominentl= y there.

BCP 38 and 84 are things that notionally g= et applied to customer facing edges hopefully not strict when dealing with m= ulti homed networks.

Martian filters again bcp 84 b= ut also bcp 171 and RFC 5735  are things that appear in input acls. Som= etimes these are implemented as null routes from bgp route reflectors or con= tributed protocols rather than ACLs.

         = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;             &n= bsp;         Ron

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