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Hi=2C

A point-to-point link type is included twice in a Router-LSA.

1) As Link Type =3D 1 (p2p)=2C with neighboring router's RID as Link ID. Th=
is happens when the adjacency status is FULL.

2) As Link Type =3D 3 (stub)=2C with IP subnet address as Link ID. This hap=
pens when the interface state is point-to-point=2C regardless of the status=
 of adjacency.

I found out that if a point-to-point link is used as passive-interface=2C t=
hen adjacency will not be formed. Hence=2C link type =3D 1 advertizement wi=
ll be absent. However=2C a link type =3D 3 advertizement of such a link mak=
es it reachable.

Please share more examples where it helps to advertize a p2p link type in t=
wo ways. My intention is to understand the need for having two types of adv=
ertizements for the same p2p link.

Thank you.

Best wishes
Suketu Soni
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Hi=2C<BR><BR>A point-to-point link type is included twice in a Router-LSA.<=
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Dan, Vishwas,
Thanks to all the hard work on this MIB. This document has special  
significance to me as it is was the only unfinished item that was on  
the OSPF WG charter when I started as a co-chair.
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On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:05 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:

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> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
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>         RFC 5643
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>         Title:      Management Information Base for OSPFv3
>         Author:     D. Joyal, Ed.,
>                     V. Manral, Ed.
>         Status:     Standards Track
>         Date:       August 2009
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>         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-mib-15.txt
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> This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
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> particular, it defines objects for managing the Open Shortest Path
> First (OSPF) Routing Protocol for IPv6, otherwise known as OSPF
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Hi Suketu,
See inline.
On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:59 AM, suketu soni wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A point-to-point link type is included twice in a Router-LSA.
>
> 1) As Link Type = 1 (p2p), with neighboring router's RID as Link  
> ID. This happens when the adjacency status is FULL.
>
> 2) As Link Type = 3 (stub), with IP subnet address as Link ID. This  
> happens when the interface state is point-to-point, regardless of  
> the status of adjacency.
>
> I found out that if a point-to-point link is used as passive- 
> interface, then adjacency will not be formed. Hence, link type = 1  
> advertizement will be absent. However, a link type = 3  
> advertizement of such a link makes it reachable.
>
> Please share more examples where it helps to advertize a p2p link  
> type in two ways. My intention is to understand the need for having  
> two types of advertizements for the same p2p link.

The two links serve completely different purposes. The type 1 link is  
to advertise connectivity to the other router, i.e., an edge in the  
SPF graph, while the type 3 link is to advertise the IP subnet.

Thanks,
Acee


>
> Thank you.
>
> Best wishes
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Hi Suketu,&nbsp;<div>See inline.&nbsp;<br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2009, at =
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Hi,<br><br>A point-to-point link type is included twice in a =
Router-LSA.<br><br>1) As Link Type =3D 1 (p2p), with neighboring =
router's RID as Link ID. This happens when the adjacency status is =
FULL.<br><br>2) As Link Type =3D 3 (stub), with IP subnet address as =
Link ID. This happens when the interface state is point-to-point, =
regardless of the status of adjacency.<br><br>I found out that if a =
point-to-point link is used as passive-interface, then adjacency will =
not be formed. Hence, link type =3D 1 advertizement will be absent. =
However, a link type =3D 3 advertizement of such a link makes it =
reachable.<br><br>Please share more examples where it helps to advertize =
a p2p link type in two ways. My intention is to understand the need for =
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'OSPFv2 HMAC-SHA Cryptographic Authentication '
   <draft-ietf-ospf-hmac-sha-07.txt> as a Proposed Standard


This document is the product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Ross Callon and Adrian Farrel.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ospf-hmac-sha-07.txt

Technical Summary

   This document describes how the NIST Secure Hash Standard family of
   algorithms can be used with OSPF version 2's built-in cryptographic
   authentication mechanism.  This updates, but does not supercede,
   the cryptographic authentication mechanism specified in RFC 2328.

Working Group Summary

   No dissent reported (see PROTO writeup by Acee Lindem). Both WG 
   members and members of the security community have reviewed the 
   document.  There was controversy as to how the HMAC-SHA digest 
   would be computed and the subject draft is the agreed upon solution. 

Document Quality

   The document has been updated in response to Gen-Art and Sec-dir
   reviews. There is at least one prototype implementation. 

Personnel

   Acee Lindem is the Document Shepherd for this document. Ross
   Callon is the Responsible Area Director.


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Hi Acee,

Thanks a lot to you for shepherding this and helping us all along the proce=
ss.

Thanks again,
Vishwas

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Acee Lindem<acee@redback.com> wrote:
> Dan, Vishwas,
> Thanks to all the hard work on this MIB. This document has special
> significance to me as it is was the only unfinished item that was on the
> OSPF WG charter when I started as a co-chair.
> Acee
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:05 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>
>>
>> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
>>
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0RFC 5643
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Title: =A0 =A0 =A0Management Information Base for OSPFv3
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Author: =A0 =A0 D. Joyal, Ed.,
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0V. Manral, Ed.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Status: =A0 =A0 Standards Track
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Date: =A0 =A0 =A0 August 2009
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mailbox: =A0 =A0djoyal@nortel.com,
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0vishwas@ipinfusion.com
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Pages: =A0 =A0 =A095
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Characters: 192945
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: =A0 None
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I-D Tag: =A0 =A0draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-mib-15.txt
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0URL: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5643=
.txt
>>
>> This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>> for use with network management protocols in IPv6-based internets. =A0In
>> particular, it defines objects for managing the Open Shortest Path
>> First (OSPF) Routing Protocol for IPv6, otherwise known as OSPF
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>>
>> This document is a product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working
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Hi all,

This is a 2nd reminder of the Call for Nominations that is underway.  We
*really* need more nominations in order to properly execute the task of
selecting candidates for the open positions. At this time, the number of
nominations for all the positions is about 1/2 of what is necessary for
the Nomcom to do a conscientious job of evaluating the nominees and we
are over 2/3 of the way through the nominations period. Nomcom cannot do
their job without this important input from the community.

So, please consider making nominations for the open positions - it takes
just a few minutes of your time - the details are below.  Right now, we
just need the names/email addresses for the nominees - we'll be
soliciting feedback later. Also, consider that over 1/2 the nominees are
not able to accept the nominations for a variety of reasons - e.g., lack
of funding, lack of sponsor support, etc. Thus, please consider
nominating more than one individual for each of the positions.

As well as the reminder for the call for nominations, this email also
serves as a reminder for:
2) Local Office Hours
3) Questionnaires available for nominees

Best Regards,
Mary Barnes
nomcom-chair@ietf.org
mary.h.barnes@gmail.com
mary.barnes@nortel.com


========================================================================
=

1) Call for Nominations
------------------------
The nomination period ends in less than 2 weeks on Sept. 18th, 2009. We
appreciate the folks that have taken the time to make nominations thus
far. But, we do need more nominations. Please use the online tool to
nominate - it's fast, easy and secure:
https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/nominate

Details on the open positions, as well as other details and options for
making nominations are available on the Nomcom homepage:
https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/

Please consider that the sooner you make the nominations, the more time
your nominee(s) will have to complete the necessary questionnaire (item
3
below).  As well, please consider nominating more than one person for a
particular position. You will have the opportunity to provide additional
feedback later and it's important to consider that not all nominees will
be able to accept the nomination.


2) Local office hours
-----------------------

In order facilitate additional feedback, the Nomcom has decided to make
themselves available for office areas at various geographic locations
for
3 weeks in September, starting on the 8th.

Below please find the list of locations where Nomcom members will be
available for these f2f meetings . Unless dates are identified below,
the
Nomcom member is generally available for part of the day during the
weeks
of Sept 8-11, Sept 14-18 and Sept 21-25. Also, languages other than
English in which the Nomcom member is fluent are identfied.

Please contact a Nomcom member in a specific geographic location to
arrange a convenient meeting time and place. Most Nomcom members are
flexible as to meeting locations - i.e., we can travel to your office,
meet at our offices or somewhere in between.

As a reminder folks can always contact any Nomcom member to provide
feedback at anytime - i.e., you don't need to participate in these f2f
sessions to provide feedback.


Belgium:
      Dimitri Papadimitriou - dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be
(Sept
21-25) (Languages: French)

Boston, Mass, USA:
      Stephen Kent - kent@bbn.com  (Sept 16-18)

Boulder, CO, USA:
      Wassim Haddad - wmhaddad@gmail.com (Sept 14-18)

Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX, USA:
      Mary Barnes  - mary.h.barnes@gmail.com
      Lucy Yong - lucyyong@huawei.com  (Languages: Chinese)

Helsinki, Finland:
       Simo Veikkolainen - simo.veikkolainen@nokia.com (Languages:
Finnish)


Ithaca, NY, USA:
       Scott Brim - scott.brim@gmail.com

Montevideo, Uruguay:
       Roque Gagliano - roque@lacnic.net (Sept 14-18, 21-25) (Languages:
Spanish, Portuguese)

Montreal, Quebec, Canada
      Wassim Haddad - wmhaddad@gmail.com (Sept 8-11)
      -- Can also be available in Ottawa if folks are interested

Paris, France:
       Dimitri Papadimitriou - dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be
(Sept 15-18)  (Languages: French)

San Diego, CA, USA:
       Randall Gellens - rg+ietf@qualcomm.com
       Dave Crocker - dcrocker@bbiw.net  (Sept 16-18)

Silicon Valley/SF Bay,  CA, USA:
       Dave Crocker - dcrocker@bbiw.net  (Sept 8-11, Sept 14-15, Sept
21-25)
       Dorothy Gellert - Dorothy.gellert@gmail.com

3) Questionnaires available for nominees:

For folks that have been notified that they have been nominated for any
of the positions, the questionnaires are now available on the Nomcom09
tools website:
https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iab-questionnaire
https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iaoc-questionnaire
https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iesg-questionnaire

If you have any questions, please let me know. I will be contacting
everyone individually, as well as sending reminders.


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Since the OSPFv3 Options bits are only allocated through Standards  
Action (RFC 4940) and this is an experimental draft, the authors have  
agreed to move the bits to the OSPF LLS type 1 extended options. The  
alternative would be to re-spin RFC 4940 to change the allocation  
policy.

For your reference, here are the excerpted bit descriptions.
3.2.1  The I Option Bit

    A new I bit is defined in the OSPFv3 option field.  The bit is
    defined for Hello packets and indicates that only incremental
    information is present.  See Section 3.4 for placement of the I bit
    within the OSPFv3 options field.

3.3.5  The F Option Bit

    A single new option bit, the F bit, is defined in the OSPFv3 option
    field.  The F bit indicates that the node supports the Optimized
    Flooding mechanism as specified in this draft.  See Section 3.4 for
    placement of the F bit.

If anyone has any concerns with this change, please speak now or  
forever hold your peace.
Thanks,
Acee
  

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The IESG has received a request from the Open Shortest Path First IGP WG 
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- 'Support of address families in OSPFv3 '
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The IESG has received a request from the Open Shortest Path First IGP WG 
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- 'Advertising a Router's Local Addresses in OSPF TE Extensions '
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