From manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Aug 24 07:38:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE0B21F8B52; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:38:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.245 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.245 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.354, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AS0ulxgtOLwI; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646C421F8B38; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inbansmailrelay2.in.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-250-11-33.lucent.com [135.250.11.33]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p7OEdiS3011695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:39:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from INBANSXCHHUB03.in.alcatel-lucent.com (inbansxchhub03.in.alcatel-lucent.com [135.250.12.80]) by inbansmailrelay2.in.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p7OEdgfA008082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:09:43 +0530 Received: from INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.38]) by INBANSXCHHUB03.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.80]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:09:42 +0530 From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" To: Sam Hartman , "ietf@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:09:40 +0530 Thread-Topic: [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcxbcHckAhwFV117ToWRv88q2y5g9gG+iTTg Message-ID: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20110719145739.5942.53564.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Cc: "ospf@ietf.org" , "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:38:39 -0000 Hi, [clipped] >=20 > Based on this review I have a few recommendations for the=20 > OSPF v3 authentication trailers document. >=20 > 1) The v3 authentication trailer takes a step back in the=20 > ability to rekey security associations both from OSPF v2,=20 > from IPsec for OSPF v3 and from=20 [ ..] >=20 > I believe that draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-05 needs=20 > to be revised to require implementation behavior at least as=20 > flexible as draft-ietf-karp-crypto-tables. That is,=20 > associated with each security association is a time for when=20 > sending packets can start with a given SA and for when it=20 > must stop. Infinity and 0 should of course be supported for=20 > the appropriate times. >=20 > 2) I notice terminology inconsistency between key identifier =20 > and security association identifier. This should probably be=20 > cleaned up, although it's not that big of a deal. http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-06.txt address= es the first two comments. >=20 >=20 > 3) draft-ietf-ospf-analysis says that we are going to solve=20 > related protocol attacks. That is, we recognize that it's=20 > quite likely that some people will use the same preshared key=20 > both for OSPF authentication and for something else. We need=20 > to mix something into the key or hash or something that is=20 > unlikely to appear in any other use in order to make it=20 > cryptographically unlikely for the resulting OSPF=20 > authentication hash to be a hash useful in some other=20 > protocol or for the hash from some other protocol to be=20 > useful in OSPF. This draft does not do that. One possible=20 > way to solve this would be to prepend a constant in front of=20 > the key in the key preparation step or a constant in front of=20 > every packet that gets hashed. The constant should be the=20 > same for OSPFv3 and not used for any other purpose. We had an offline discussion with Sam and others and we seem to have conver= ged at this text: We change the hex that's repeated in the Apad from 0x878FE1F3 to 0x878FE1F4= . This value will be unique for OSPFv3. Other protocols that use this mecha= nism must use a different value of Apad - you could think of this as "salti= ng" the Apad. OLD TEXT in Sec 4.4: Apad is a value which is the same length as the hash output or message dige= st. The first 16 octets contain the IPv6 source address followed by the he= xadecimal value 0x878FE1F3 repeated (L-16)/4 times. This implies that hash output is always a length of at least 16 octets. NEW TEXT: Apad is a value which is the same length as the hash output or message dige= st. The first 16 octets contain the IPv6 source address followed by the he= xadecimal value 0x878FE1F4 repeated (L-16)/4 times. This implies that hash output is always a length of at least 16 octets. Cheers, Manav= From acee.lindem@ericsson.com Wed Aug 24 07:43:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB4E21F8B5D; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.117, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bVDuyFTPLHqF; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EC221F8B2D; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7OEi77H017867; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:44:08 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:44:02 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:44:00 -0400 Thread-Topic: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcxibEQOgTWOZ5r0QXe4QXW6KcTjhQ== Message-ID: <8D54DD3C-45C6-4C34-9CD3-DF6B6C758B4E@ericsson.com> References: <20110719145739.5942.53564.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail-120-882391960"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ospf@ietf.org" , Sam Hartman , "ietf@ietf.org" , "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:43:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail-120-882391960 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Manav,=20 On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > Hi, >=20 > [clipped] >=20 >>=20 >> Based on this review I have a few recommendations for the=20 >> OSPF v3 authentication trailers document. >>=20 >> 1) The v3 authentication trailer takes a step back in the=20 >> ability to rekey security associations both from OSPF v2,=20 >> from IPsec for OSPF v3 and from=20 >=20 > [ ..] >=20 >>=20 >> I believe that draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-05 needs=20 >> to be revised to require implementation behavior at least as=20 >> flexible as draft-ietf-karp-crypto-tables. That is,=20 >> associated with each security association is a time for when=20 >> sending packets can start with a given SA and for when it=20 >> must stop. Infinity and 0 should of course be supported for=20 >> the appropriate times. >>=20 >> 2) I notice terminology inconsistency between key identifier =20 >> and security association identifier. This should probably be=20 >> cleaned up, although it's not that big of a deal. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-06.txt = addresses the first two comments. >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> 3) draft-ietf-ospf-analysis says that we are going to solve=20 >> related protocol attacks. That is, we recognize that it's=20 >> quite likely that some people will use the same preshared key=20 >> both for OSPF authentication and for something else. We need=20 >> to mix something into the key or hash or something that is=20 >> unlikely to appear in any other use in order to make it=20 >> cryptographically unlikely for the resulting OSPF=20 >> authentication hash to be a hash useful in some other=20 >> protocol or for the hash from some other protocol to be=20 >> useful in OSPF. This draft does not do that. One possible=20 >> way to solve this would be to prepend a constant in front of=20 >> the key in the key preparation step or a constant in front of=20 >> every packet that gets hashed. The constant should be the=20 >> same for OSPFv3 and not used for any other purpose. >=20 > We had an offline discussion with Sam and others and we seem to have = converged at this text: >=20 > We change the hex that's repeated in the Apad from 0x878FE1F3 to = 0x878FE1F4. This value will be unique for OSPFv3. Other protocols that = use this mechanism must use a different value of Apad - you could think = of this as "salting" the Apad. Could we simply use the OSPFv3 protocol number, 89, in the Apad, e.g., = 0x898FE1F4, (or at least the first instance of Apad). Otherwise, we = probably need a registry for IANA Apads.=20 Thanks, Acee=20 >=20 > OLD TEXT in Sec 4.4: >=20 > Apad is a value which is the same length as the hash output or message = digest. The first 16 octets contain the IPv6 source address followed by = the hexadecimal value 0x878FE1F3 repeated (L-16)/4 times. > This implies that hash output is always a length of at least 16 = octets. >=20 > NEW TEXT: >=20 > Apad is a value which is the same length as the hash output or message = digest. The first 16 octets contain the IPv6 source address followed by = the hexadecimal value 0x878FE1F4 repeated (L-16)/4 times. > This implies that hash output is always a length of at least 16 = octets. >=20 > Cheers, Manav > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf --Apple-Mail-120-882391960 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIM8jCCBDQw ggMcoAMCAQICECFWwVQHDV12M/Sr0yNv0sYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwOTERMA8GA1UECgwIRXJp Y3Nzb24xJDAiBgNVBAMMG0VyaWNzc29uIE5MIEluZGl2aWR1YWwgQ0EwMTAeFw0xMDEwMDEyMDA0 NTlaFw0xMzEwMDEyMDA0NDhaMG8xETAPBgNVBAoMCEVyaWNzc29uMR8wHQYDVQQDDBZBY2VlIExp bmRlbSBMaW5kZW0gSUlJMRAwDgYDVQQFEwdlYWxmbGluMScwJQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhhhY2VlLmxp bmRlbUBlcmljc3Nvbi5jb20wgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAI/Dc9ALiZuBMyuv 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-0400 From: Acee Lindem To: Acee Lindem Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:46:31 -0400 Thread-Topic: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcxibJ0W8exhPoa4TDCkVUgqhZqnuA== Message-ID: <1D4A7913-4FE3-4B9F-9D0D-9FBC5E12F56E@ericsson.com> References: <20110719145739.5942.53564.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <8D54DD3C-45C6-4C34-9CD3-DF6B6C758B4E@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <8D54DD3C-45C6-4C34-9CD3-DF6B6C758B4E@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail-121-882542660"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Sam Hartman , "ospf@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:45:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-121-882542660 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Acee Lindem wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi Manav,=20 >=20 > On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> [clipped] >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Based on this review I have a few recommendations for the=20 >>> OSPF v3 authentication trailers document. >>>=20 >>> 1) The v3 authentication trailer takes a step back in the=20 >>> ability to rekey security associations both from OSPF v2,=20 >>> from IPsec for OSPF v3 and from=20 >>=20 >> [ ..] >>=20 >>>=20 >>> I believe that draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-05 needs=20 >>> to be revised to require implementation behavior at least as=20 >>> flexible as draft-ietf-karp-crypto-tables. That is,=20 >>> associated with each security association is a time for when=20 >>> sending packets can start with a given SA and for when it=20 >>> must stop. Infinity and 0 should of course be supported for=20 >>> the appropriate times. >>>=20 >>> 2) I notice terminology inconsistency between key identifier =20 >>> and security association identifier. This should probably be=20 >>> cleaned up, although it's not that big of a deal. >>=20 >> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-06.txt = addresses the first two comments. >>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 3) draft-ietf-ospf-analysis says that we are going to solve=20 >>> related protocol attacks. That is, we recognize that it's=20 >>> quite likely that some people will use the same preshared key=20 >>> both for OSPF authentication and for something else. We need=20 >>> to mix something into the key or hash or something that is=20 >>> unlikely to appear in any other use in order to make it=20 >>> cryptographically unlikely for the resulting OSPF=20 >>> authentication hash to be a hash useful in some other=20 >>> protocol or for the hash from some other protocol to be=20 >>> useful in OSPF. This draft does not do that. One possible=20 >>> way to solve this would be to prepend a constant in front of=20 >>> the key in the key preparation step or a constant in front of=20 >>> every packet that gets hashed. The constant should be the=20 >>> same for OSPFv3 and not used for any other purpose. >>=20 >> We had an offline discussion with Sam and others and we seem to have = converged at this text: >>=20 >> We change the hex that's repeated in the Apad from 0x878FE1F3 to = 0x878FE1F4. This value will be unique for OSPFv3. Other protocols that = use this mechanism must use a different value of Apad - you could think = of this as "salting" the Apad. >=20 > Could we simply use the OSPFv3 protocol number, 89, in the Apad, e.g., = 0x898FE1F4, (or at least the first instance of Apad). Otherwise, we = probably need a registry for IANA Apads.=20 I meant 0x898FE1F3 as to not change the last 3 octets of the existing = HMAC-SHAx Apad.=20 Thanks, Acee=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Acee=20 >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> OLD TEXT in Sec 4.4: >>=20 >> Apad is a value which is the same length as the hash output or = message digest. The first 16 octets contain the IPv6 source address = followed by the hexadecimal value 0x878FE1F3 repeated (L-16)/4 times. >> This implies that hash output is always a length of at least 16 = octets. >>=20 >> NEW TEXT: >>=20 >> Apad is a value which is the same length as the hash output or = message digest. The first 16 octets contain the IPv6 source address = followed by the hexadecimal value 0x878FE1F4 repeated (L-16)/4 times. >> This implies that hash output is always a length of at least 16 = octets. >>=20 >> Cheers, Manav >> _______________________________________________ >> OSPF mailing list >> OSPF@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf >=20 --Apple-Mail-121-882542660 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIM8jCCBDQw ggMcoAMCAQICECFWwVQHDV12M/Sr0yNv0sYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwOTERMA8GA1UECgwIRXJp Y3Nzb24xJDAiBgNVBAMMG0VyaWNzc29uIE5MIEluZGl2aWR1YWwgQ0EwMTAeFw0xMDEwMDEyMDA0 NTlaFw0xMzEwMDEyMDA0NDhaMG8xETAPBgNVBAoMCEVyaWNzc29uMR8wHQYDVQQDDBZBY2VlIExp bmRlbSBMaW5kZW0gSUlJMRAwDgYDVQQFEwdlYWxmbGluMScwJQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhhhY2VlLmxp bmRlbUBlcmljc3Nvbi5jb20wgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAI/Dc9ALiZuBMyuv 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INBANSXCHHUB03.in.alcatel-lucent.com (inbansxchhub03.in.alcatel-lucent.com [135.250.12.80]) by inbansmailrelay1.in.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p7OEp9dF030370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:21:09 +0530 Received: from INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.38]) by INBANSXCHHUB03.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.80]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:21:09 +0530 From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" To: Acee Lindem Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:21:08 +0530 Thread-Topic: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcxibJ0W8exhPoa4TDCkVUgqhZqnuAAAC72A Message-ID: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F06@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20110719145739.5942.53564.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <8D54DD3C-45C6-4C34-9CD3-DF6B6C758B4E@ericsson.com> <1D4A7913-4FE3-4B9F-9D0D-9FBC5E12F56E@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <1D4A7913-4FE3-4B9F-9D0D-9FBC5E12F56E@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Cc: "ospf@ietf.org" , Sam Hartman , "ietf@ietf.org" , "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:50:07 -0000 Hi Acee, > >>=20 > >> We change the hex that's repeated in the Apad from=20 > 0x878FE1F3 to 0x878FE1F4. This value will be unique for=20 > OSPFv3. Other protocols that use this mechanism must use a=20 > different value of Apad - you could think of this as=20 > "salting" the Apad. > >=20 > > Could we simply use the OSPFv3 protocol number, 89, in the=20 > Apad, e.g., 0x898FE1F4, (or at least the first instance of=20 > Apad). Otherwise, we probably need a registry for IANA Apads.=20 >=20 > I meant 0x898FE1F3 as to not change the last 3 octets of the=20 > existing HMAC-SHAx Apad.=20 We would still need an IANA registry of Apads unless youre thinking of usin= g the IP protocol type as the first octet of the Apad. If it's the latter, = then OSPFv3 and OSPFv2 would share the same Apad, which would defeat the pu= rpose of the whole exercise. This would also not work for multiple protocols that ride over UDP and TCP.= BFD and RIP would end up using the same Apad as their IP protocol is the s= ame.=20 We thus need a unique Apad that each standard can define if we want to prot= ect ourselves from the attack that Sam describes. Cheers, Manav=20 From acee.lindem@ericsson.com Wed Aug 24 09:04:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805EE21F8C29; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.097, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AC9ChJ3r0pe1; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DE821F8C37; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7OG5iFK004500; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:05:49 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:05:44 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:05:42 -0400 Thread-Topic: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: Acxid626BeUAPPcnQ2m798unkem+VQ== Message-ID: <0E0AC0D0-0E8C-4CAE-8FDA-75D1AA4672D6@ericsson.com> References: <20110719145739.5942.53564.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <8D54DD3C-45C6-4C34-9CD3-DF6B6C758B4E@ericsson.com> <1D4A7913-4FE3-4B9F-9D0D-9FBC5E12F56E@ericsson.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F06@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F06@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail-122-887293861"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ospf@ietf.org" , Sam Hartman , "ietf@ietf.org" , "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:04:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-122-887293861 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Manav, On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > Hi Acee, >=20 >>>>=20 >>>> We change the hex that's repeated in the Apad from=20 >> 0x878FE1F3 to 0x878FE1F4. This value will be unique for=20 >> OSPFv3. Other protocols that use this mechanism must use a=20 >> different value of Apad - you could think of this as=20 >> "salting" the Apad. >>>=20 >>> Could we simply use the OSPFv3 protocol number, 89, in the=20 >> Apad, e.g., 0x898FE1F4, (or at least the first instance of=20 >> Apad). Otherwise, we probably need a registry for IANA Apads.=20 >>=20 >> I meant 0x898FE1F3 as to not change the last 3 octets of the=20 >> existing HMAC-SHAx Apad.=20 >=20 > We would still need an IANA registry of Apads unless youre thinking of = using the IP protocol type as the first octet of the Apad. That's exactly what I'm proposing.=20 > If it's the latter, then OSPFv3 and OSPFv2 would share the same Apad, = which would defeat the purpose of the whole exercise. Are you forgetting about the version as the first nibble of the header?=20= >=20 > This would also not work for multiple protocols that ride over UDP and = TCP. BFD and RIP would end up using the same Apad as their IP protocol = is the same.=20 UDP/TCP protocols would need a scheme that includes their well-know port = - perhaps, the second octet of the first instance of Apad ;^).=20 >=20 > We thus need a unique Apad that each standard can define if we want to = protect ourselves from the attack that Sam describes. 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zwq9tDk8zzfY; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8680821F8C51; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7OGARCB005591; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:10:30 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:10:25 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: Acee Lindem Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:10:22 -0400 Thread-Topic: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcxieFTIhqaGR7zJSAawjNNO3iN7kQ== Message-ID: <3D1FB5AD-C17E-4071-B20A-5F9B8B2044EA@ericsson.com> References: <20110719145739.5942.53564.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F02@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <8D54DD3C-45C6-4C34-9CD3-DF6B6C758B4E@ericsson.com> <1D4A7913-4FE3-4B9F-9D0D-9FBC5E12F56E@ericsson.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350CFF9A5F06@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <0E0AC0D0-0E8C-4CAE-8FDA-75D1AA4672D6@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <0E0AC0D0-0E8C-4CAE-8FDA-75D1AA4672D6@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail-123-887573852"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Sam Hartman , "ospf@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [karp] Last Call: (Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:09:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail-123-887573852 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 24, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Acee Lindem wrote: > Hi Manav, >=20 > On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: >=20 >> Hi Acee, >>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> We change the hex that's repeated in the Apad from=20 >>> 0x878FE1F3 to 0x878FE1F4. This value will be unique for=20 >>> OSPFv3. Other protocols that use this mechanism must use a=20 >>> different value of Apad - you could think of this as=20 >>> "salting" the Apad. >>>>=20 >>>> Could we simply use the OSPFv3 protocol number, 89, in the=20 >>> Apad, e.g., 0x898FE1F4, (or at least the first instance of=20 >>> Apad). Otherwise, we probably need a registry for IANA Apads.=20 >>>=20 >>> I meant 0x898FE1F3 as to not change the last 3 octets of the=20 >>> existing HMAC-SHAx Apad.=20 >>=20 >> We would still need an IANA registry of Apads unless youre thinking = of using the IP protocol type as the first octet of the Apad. >=20 > That's exactly what I'm proposing.=20 >=20 >> If it's the latter, then OSPFv3 and OSPFv2 would share the same Apad, = which would defeat the purpose of the whole exercise. >=20 > Are you forgetting about the version as the first nibble of the = header?=20 Meant the first byte of course - first nibble is for IPv4 vs IPv6 ;^)=20 >=20 >>=20 >> This would also not work for multiple protocols that ride over UDP = and TCP. BFD and RIP would end up using the same Apad as their IP = protocol is the same.=20 >=20 > UDP/TCP protocols would need a scheme that includes their well-know = port - perhaps, the second octet of the first instance of Apad ;^).=20 >=20 >>=20 >> We thus need a unique Apad that each standard can define if we want = to protect ourselves from the attack that Sam describes. >=20 > Thanks, > Acee >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> Cheers, Manav=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf --Apple-Mail-123-887573852 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIM8jCCBDQw ggMcoAMCAQICECFWwVQHDV12M/Sr0yNv0sYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwOTERMA8GA1UECgwIRXJp Y3Nzb24xJDAiBgNVBAMMG0VyaWNzc29uIE5MIEluZGl2aWR1YWwgQ0EwMTAeFw0xMDEwMDEyMDA0 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7TEp9Om017263 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:51:14 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:51:10 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: OSPF List Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:51:09 -0400 Thread-Topic: OSPF Hybrid Interface and OSPF MANET variants Thread-Index: AcxmWxcWqC086GM8TyCVvdQVnqqYHw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OSPF] OSPF Hybrid Interface and OSPF MANET variants X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:49:50 -0000 In Quebec City, we discussed making the following WG documents and are not = confirming this on the OSPF list. We had almost made this a WG document once before but delayed until we figu= red out the relationship to OSPF MANET flooding optimizations. It affords f= looding reduction over P2MP without the additional complexity of OSPF MANET= . OSPF Hybrid Broadcast and P2MP Interface Type - draft-nsheth-ospf-hybrid= -bcast-and-p2mp-01.txt These documents are updates to the existing OSPF MANET experimental drafts = with optimizations and/or adaptations for single hop networks. Use of OSPF-MDR in Single-Hop Broadcast Networks - draft-ogier-ospf-manet-s= ingle-hop-00.txt Use of the OSPF-MANET Interface in Single-Hop Broadcast Networks - draft= -retana-ospf-manet-single-hop-01.txt Please speak now if you feel that these should not be WG documents. Thanks, Acee From acee.lindem@ericsson.com Mon Aug 29 07:51:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5821F8B7B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:51:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uAz-fNSc6a8K for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D092121F8B7A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7TEqcV5017731 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:52:55 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:52:41 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: OSPF List Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:52:38 -0400 Thread-Topic: OSPF Hybrid Interface and OSPF MANET variants (Corrected) Thread-Index: AcxmW0wu0zVvDj1qR4ql44lzM1ka+A== Message-ID: <8D15D922-F53D-4AA9-A07D-EAF223EC5293@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OSPF] OSPF Hybrid Interface and OSPF MANET variants (Corrected) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:51:31 -0000 In Quebec City, we discussed making the following WG documents and are now = confirming this on the OSPF list. We had almost made the following a WG document once before but delayed unti= l we figured out the relationship to OSPF MANET flooding optimizations. It = affords flooding reduction over P2MP without the additional complexity of O= SPF MANET. OSPF Hybrid Broadcast and P2MP Interface Type - draft-nsheth-ospf-hybrid-= bcast-and-p2mp-01.txt These documents are updates to the existing OSPF MANET experimental drafts = with optimizations and/or adaptations for single hop networks. Use of OSPF-MDR in Single-Hop Broadcast Networks - draft-ogier-ospf-manet= -single-hop-00.txt Use of the OSPF-MANET Interface in Single-Hop Broadcast Networks - draft-= retana-ospf-manet-single-hop-01.txt Please speak now if you feel that any of these should not be WG documents. Thanks, Acee _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Wed Aug 31 12:19:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DED21F8EBA for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:19:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.187, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VehKFLz499A9 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D783021F8EBC for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id BFB5F98C250; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:20:17 -0700 (PDT) To: jmoy@casc.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, acee.lindem@ericsson.com, akr@cisco.com From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20110831192017.BFB5F98C250@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ospf@ietf.org, jgannett@research.telcordia.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [OSPF] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2951) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:19:08 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, "OSPF Version 2". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2328&eid=2951 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Joel Gannett Section: 3.4 Original Text ------------- Destination RT3 adv. RT4 adv. _________________________________ Ia,Ib 20 27 N6 16 15 N7 20 19 N8 18 18 N9-N11,H1 29 36 _________________________________ RT5 14 8 RT7 20 14 Table 6: Destinations advertised into Area 1 by Routers RT3 and RT4. Corrected Text -------------- Destination RT3 adv. RT4 adv. _________________________________ Ia,Ib 20 27 N6 16 15 N7 20 19 N8 18 18 N9-N11,H1 29 29 _________________________________ RT5 14 8 RT7 20 14 Table 6: Destinations advertised into Area 1 by Routers RT3 and RT4. Notes ----- The distance from RT4 to N9-N11,H1 should be changed from 36 to 29 to be consistent with the row above that, which shows the distance from RT3 to N8 and RT4 to N8 as the same value, 18. The length 18 path from RT3 to N8 is RT3-RT6-RT10-N8, while the length 18 path from RT4 to N8 is RT4-RT5-RT7-RT10-N8. The summarized N9-N11,H1 network is a distance 11 beyond that, or 29 in both cases. The length 29 path from RT3 to N9-N11,H1 is RT3-RT6-RT10-RT11-(N9-N11,H1), and the length 29 path from RT4 to N9-N11,H1 is RT4-RT5-RT7-RT10-RT11-(N9-N11,H1). Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) -------------------------------------- Title : OSPF Version 2 Publication Date : April 1998 Author(s) : J. Moy Category : STANDARD Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Wed Aug 31 12:27:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339F421F8F6A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:27:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.114, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sw0k7zbbr7qW for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A1021F8F6F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 6B0F398C24C; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) To: jmoy@casc.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, acee.lindem@ericsson.com, akr@cisco.com From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ospf@ietf.org, jgannett@research.telcordia.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [OSPF] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:27:24 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, "OSPF Version 2". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2328&eid=2952 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Joel Gannett Section: 14.1 Original Text ------------- Premature aging is also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). Corrected Text -------------- Premature aging might also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). Notes ----- Change "is also be used" to "might also be used." Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) -------------------------------------- Title : OSPF Version 2 Publication Date : April 1998 Author(s) : J. Moy Category : STANDARD Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From acee.lindem@ericsson.com Wed Aug 31 12:57:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2390021F8FA6 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:57:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.226 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.226 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.227, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g9CKeiVv9Z4m for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC3B21F8FA2 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7VJuTBd024686; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:58:30 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:58:09 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: RFC Errata System Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:58:07 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2951) Thread-Index: AcxoGE4IGvnD16hPT0u1N5mDUrVecA== Message-ID: <3B21DFA2-9EB6-49A7-8DB8-D4A4B242133A@ericsson.com> References: <20110831192017.BFB5F98C250@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20110831192017.BFB5F98C250@rfc-editor.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail-106--641445385"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "jgannett@research.telcordia.com" , "jmoy@casc.com" , "ospf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2951) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:57:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail-106--641445385 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Joel, There is a problem but actually it is R4's cost to N8 that is wrong in = Table 6. It should be 25 rather than 18. Can this errata be edited?=20 Thanks, Acee=20 On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:20 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: >=20 > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, > "OSPF Version 2". >=20 > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2328&eid=3D2951 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Joel Gannett >=20 > Section: 3.4 >=20 > Original Text > ------------- > Destination RT3 adv. RT4 adv. > _________________________________ > Ia,Ib 20 27 > N6 16 15 > N7 20 19 > N8 18 18 > N9-N11,H1 29 36 > _________________________________ > RT5 14 8 > RT7 20 14 >=20 > Table 6: Destinations advertised into Area 1 > by Routers RT3 and RT4. >=20 > Corrected Text > -------------- > Destination RT3 adv. RT4 adv. > _________________________________ > Ia,Ib 20 27 > N6 16 15 > N7 20 19 > N8 18 18 > N9-N11,H1 29 29 > _________________________________ > RT5 14 8 > RT7 20 14 >=20 > Table 6: Destinations advertised into Area 1 > by Routers RT3 and RT4. >=20 > Notes > ----- > The distance from RT4 to N9-N11,H1 should be changed from 36 to 29 to = be consistent with the row above that, which shows the distance from RT3 = to N8 and RT4 to N8 as the same value, 18. The length 18 path from RT3 = to N8 is RT3-RT6-RT10-N8, while the length 18 path from RT4 to N8 is = RT4-RT5-RT7-RT10-N8. The summarized N9-N11,H1 network is a distance 11 = beyond that, or 29 in both cases. The length 29 path from RT3 to = N9-N11,H1 is RT3-RT6-RT10-RT11-(N9-N11,H1), and the length 29 path from = RT4 to N9-N11,H1 is RT4-RT5-RT7-RT10-RT11-(N9-N11,H1). >=20 > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) > -------------------------------------- > Title : OSPF Version 2 > Publication Date : April 1998 > Author(s) : J. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.513 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JwuNQaJknGYX for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B9921F8E6B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7VKTmRs030060; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:29:59 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:28:59 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: RFC Errata System Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:28:58 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) Thread-Index: AcxoHJ0XOERpeJReTUWdV+RAF3QB3g== Message-ID: <72FFE043-8197-468A-A76F-779EDEB6C9A1@ericsson.com> References: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "jgannett@research.telcordia.com" , "jmoy@casc.com" , "ospf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:28:29 -0000 I don't believe I have an Errata Verification logon, https://www.rfc-editor= .org/verify_login.php either so it looks like an AD will need to edit or re= ject this errata.=20 Thanks, Acee On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:28 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: >=20 > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, > "OSPF Version 2". >=20 > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2328&eid=3D2952 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Joel Gannett >=20 > Section: 14.1 >=20 > Original Text > ------------- > Premature aging is also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originat= ed LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >=20 > Corrected Text > -------------- > Premature aging might also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-origi= nated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >=20 > Notes > ----- > Change "is also be used" to "might also be used." >=20 > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) > -------------------------------------- > Title : OSPF Version 2 > Publication Date : April 1998 > Author(s) : J. Moy > Category : STANDARD > Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP > Area : Routing > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG From acee.lindem@ericsson.com Wed Aug 31 13:36:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B85721F8E3A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:36:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MwuligMt01ko for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129A721F8E36 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7VKbRaH031131; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:37:49 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0702.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.60]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:37:33 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: RFC Errata System Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:37:31 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) Thread-Index: AcxoHc+Cr6+C8b8IQJSeViwmXOIZ/w== Message-ID: <280AFA0E-1A31-4E5C-A2C4-9BE30F13E547@ericsson.com> References: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "jmoy@casc.com" , "ospf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:36:20 -0000 Hi Joel, I agree with this errata as the existing text is grammatically incorrect. H= owever, I believe the intended meaning of the text is clear. I'd probably u= se "can also be used" as opposed to "might also be used".=20 Thanks, Acee=20 On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:28 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: >=20 > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, > "OSPF Version 2". >=20 > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2328&eid=3D2952 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Joel Gannett >=20 > Section: 14.1 >=20 > Original Text > ------------- > Premature aging is also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originat= ed LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >=20 > Corrected Text > -------------- > Premature aging might also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-origi= nated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >=20 > Notes > ----- > Change "is also be used" to "might also be used." >=20 > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) > -------------------------------------- > Title : OSPF Version 2 > Publication Date : April 1998 > Author(s) : J. Moy > Category : STANDARD > Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP > Area : Routing > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG From jgannett@research.telcordia.com Wed Aug 31 13:37:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3D121F8F0A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s2+6t8TFuqri for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flower.research.telcordia.com (flower.research.telcordia.com [128.96.41.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4547A21F8F06 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.96.168.7] (jgannett-pc.cc.telcordia.com [128.96.168.7]) by flower.research.telcordia.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7VKd4jo013847; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E5E9BE8.40505@research.telcordia.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:39:04 -0400 From: "Joel W. Gannett" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acee Lindem References: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> <72FFE043-8197-468A-A76F-779EDEB6C9A1@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <72FFE043-8197-468A-A76F-779EDEB6C9A1@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "jmoy@casc.com" , RFC Errata System , "ospf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:37:36 -0000 Acee, I'll submit a separate errata for Section 3.4, showing the alternate correction you suggested, then someone can reject the Section 3.4 errata I sent earlier. By the way, my suggested change would be correct if there was a virtual link between RT7 and RT10, right? The last paragraph of Section 3.4 talks about the desirability of establishing such a virtual link, but I guess this is not an assumed part of the network design. Joel Gannett On 8/31/2011 4:28 PM, Acee Lindem wrote: > I don't believe I have an Errata Verification logon, https://www.rfc-editor.org/verify_login.php either so it looks like an AD will need to edit or reject this errata. > Thanks, > Acee > On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:28 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: > >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, >> "OSPF Version 2". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2328&eid=2952 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Editorial >> Reported by: Joel Gannett >> >> Section: 14.1 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> Premature aging is also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> Premature aging might also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >> >> Notes >> ----- >> Change "is also be used" to "might also be used." >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : OSPF Version 2 >> Publication Date : April 1998 >> Author(s) : J. Moy >> Category : STANDARD >> Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP >> Area : Routing >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG -- Joel W. Gannett, PhD, Senior Scientist Telcordia Technologies Applied Research Area One Telcordia Drive, Room RRC 1G-306 Piscataway, NJ 08854-4151 voice (732) 699-2693 email jgannett@research.telcordia.com web http://www.research.telcordia.com/bios/jgannett FAX (732) 336-7015 From acee@lindem.com Wed Aug 31 13:48:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3E521F8F02 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:48:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Mc5yBI3oZxl for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4301F21F8E88 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=UwuCiQyt7jHkjdoYW2VQEWtfJyhst2+aqhtsuVXDAZo= c=1 sm=0 a=nwmtbjaHBrAA:10 a=Wma4Of2gTTwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=C2g1Hp6idNFTy4K9KrF8yg==:17 a=BqEg4_3jAAAA:8 a=_qpBmAwoAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=d56SfJxPR0v96RrQUY8A:9 a=pAjpSDAhXz2H1HR4SlQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=-1llhHOabmoA:10 a=NLTh9RCgO-YA:10 a=DMPD91u74rEA:10 a=84dRqBMV_yIA:10 a=mhd2NDuUijAA:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10 a=C2g1Hp6idNFTy4K9KrF8yg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 65.190.0.120 Received: from [65.190.0.120] ([65.190.0.120:59439] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 76/BD-15749-95E9E5E4; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:49:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Acee Lindem In-Reply-To: <4E5E9BE8.40505@research.telcordia.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:49:29 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E4659D2-CB81-481E-8BF5-F889CE4C2278@lindem.com> References: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> <72FFE043-8197-468A-A76F-779EDEB6C9A1@ericsson.com> <4E5E9BE8.40505@research.telcordia.com> To: "Joel W. Gannett" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "ospf@ietf.org" , RFC Errata System , "jmoy@casc.com" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:48:00 -0000 Hi Joel,=20 On Aug 31, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Joel W. Gannett wrote: > Acee, >=20 > I'll submit a separate errata for Section 3.4, showing the alternate = correction you suggested, then someone can reject the Section 3.4 errata = I sent earlier. Ok >=20 > By the way, my suggested change would be correct if there was a = virtual link between RT7 and RT10, right? Yes - an area 2 virtual link would yield a cost of 7 rather than 14 = between R5 and R10.=20 Thanks, Acee > The last paragraph of Section 3.4 talks about the desirability of = establishing such a virtual link, but I guess this is not an assumed = part of the network design. >=20 > Joel Gannett >=20 > On 8/31/2011 4:28 PM, Acee Lindem wrote: >> I don't believe I have an Errata Verification logon, = https://www.rfc-editor.org/verify_login.php either so it looks like an = AD will need to edit or reject this errata. >> Thanks, >> Acee >> On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:28 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: >>=20 >>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, >>> "OSPF Version 2". >>>=20 >>> -------------------------------------- >>> You may review the report below and at: >>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2328&eid=3D2952 >>>=20 >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Type: Editorial >>> Reported by: Joel Gannett >>>=20 >>> Section: 14.1 >>>=20 >>> Original Text >>> ------------- >>> Premature aging is also be used when unexpectedly receiving = self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >>>=20 >>> Corrected Text >>> -------------- >>> Premature aging might also be used when unexpectedly receiving = self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >>>=20 >>> Notes >>> ----- >>> Change "is also be used" to "might also be used." >>>=20 >>> Instructions: >>> ------------- >>> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>>=20 >>> -------------------------------------- >>> RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Title : OSPF Version 2 >>> Publication Date : April 1998 >>> Author(s) : J. Moy >>> Category : STANDARD >>> Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP >>> Area : Routing >>> Stream : IETF >>> Verifying Party : IESG >=20 > --=20 > Joel W. Gannett, PhD, Senior Scientist > Telcordia Technologies > Applied Research Area > One Telcordia Drive, Room RRC 1G-306 > Piscataway, NJ 08854-4151 > voice (732) 699-2693 > email jgannett@research.telcordia.com > web http://www.research.telcordia.com/bios/jgannett > FAX (732) 336-7015 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From jgannett@research.telcordia.com Wed Aug 31 13:48:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E4A21F8F42 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:48:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.443 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.443 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.156, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5v0i6RsCYTsu for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flower.research.telcordia.com (flower.research.telcordia.com [128.96.41.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0864921F8F02 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.96.168.7] (jgannett-pc.cc.telcordia.com [128.96.168.7]) by flower.research.telcordia.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7VKo0Wv014373; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E5E9E78.5070400@research.telcordia.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:50:00 -0400 From: "Joel W. Gannett" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acee Lindem References: <20110831192830.6B0F398C24C@rfc-editor.org> <280AFA0E-1A31-4E5C-A2C4-9BE30F13E547@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <280AFA0E-1A31-4E5C-A2C4-9BE30F13E547@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "jmoy@casc.com" , RFC Errata System , "ospf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2952) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:48:31 -0000 Acee, I was, honestly, a bit confused by the wording. I thought the text might be trying to say that premature aging is the only thing, or the typical thing, that would get used. Both changes you list sound the same to me, and correct the confusion. The wording in Section 13.4 sounds to me like the router would typically advance the LSA's LS sequence number to one past the received LSA's LS sequence number, then originate a new LSA. Premature aging, discussed in the final paragraph of Section 13.4, sounds like something that gets used only in special cases. Joe On 8/31/2011 4:37 PM, Acee Lindem wrote: > Hi Joel, > I agree with this errata as the existing text is grammatically incorrect. However, I believe the intended meaning of the text is clear. I'd probably use "can also be used" as opposed to "might also be used". > Thanks, > Acee > > On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:28 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: > >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, >> "OSPF Version 2". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2328&eid=2952 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Editorial >> Reported by: Joel Gannett >> >> Section: 14.1 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> Premature aging is also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> Premature aging might also be used when unexpectedly receiving self-originated LSAs during the flooding procedure (see Section 13.4). >> >> Notes >> ----- >> Change "is also be used" to "might also be used." >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : OSPF Version 2 >> Publication Date : April 1998 >> Author(s) : J. Moy >> Category : STANDARD >> Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP >> Area : Routing >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG -- Joel W. Gannett, PhD, Senior Scientist Telcordia Technologies Applied Research Area One Telcordia Drive, Room RRC 1G-306 Piscataway, NJ 08854-4151 voice (732) 699-2693 email jgannett@research.telcordia.com web http://www.research.telcordia.com/bios/jgannett FAX (732) 336-7015 From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Wed Aug 31 14:05:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A5521F8F90 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:05:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.186 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.186 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4doTVaZec-QB for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DFD21F8F85 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 5B5E298C24E; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:06:11 -0700 (PDT) To: jmoy@casc.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, acee.lindem@ericsson.com, akr@cisco.com From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20110831210611.5B5E298C24E@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ospf@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [OSPF] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2328 (2953) X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:05:01 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328, "OSPF Version 2". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2328&eid=2953 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Joel Gannett Section: 3.4 Original Text ------------- Destination RT3 adv. RT4 adv. _________________________________ Ia,Ib 20 27 N6 16 15 N7 20 19 N8 18 18 N9-N11,H1 29 36 _________________________________ RT5 14 8 RT7 20 14 Table 6: Destinations advertised into Area 1 by Routers RT3 and RT4. Corrected Text -------------- Destination RT3 adv. RT4 adv. _________________________________ Ia,Ib 20 27 N6 16 15 N7 20 19 N8 18 25 N9-N11,H1 29 36 _________________________________ RT5 14 8 RT7 20 14 Table 6: Destinations advertised into Area 1 by Routers RT3 and RT4. Notes ----- The distance from RT4 to N8 should be changed from 18 to 25. Unless there is a virtual link between RT7 and RT10, the shortest path from RT4 to N8 is 25, not 18. Although a virtual link from RT7 and RT10 is discussed in the last paragraph of Section 3.4, it is not assume part of the network design. Moreover, this change is needed to make the N9-N11,H1 row consistent with the N8 row, as each entry in the N9-N11,H1 row must be 11 greater than the same-column entry in the N8 row. Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC2328 (no draft string recorded) -------------------------------------- Title : OSPF Version 2 Publication Date : April 1998 Author(s) : J. Moy Category : STANDARD Source : Open Shortest Path First IGP Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG