From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 7 09:43:32 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA12412 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeEtj-0006np-HA for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:43:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i07Eh3mP026146 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:43:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeEtj-0006nd-9D for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:43:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA12335 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeEth-0006Uq-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:43:01 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeEru-0006H1-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:41:10 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeEq6-000629-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:39:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeEpp-0006dl-0U; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:39:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeEp6-0006bx-DG for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:38:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA11759 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeEp4-0005qy-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:38:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeEnD-0005ds-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:36:20 -0500 Received: from thoth.sbs.de ([192.35.17.2]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeElR-0005Y0-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:34:29 -0500 Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i07EYRu21079 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:34:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from moody.mchh.siemens.de (moody.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.205.85]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i07EYQj08105 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:34:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from mchh253e.mchh.siemens.de (mchh253e.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.200.63]) by moody.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27277 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:34:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by mchh253e.mchh.siemens.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C1BA@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> From: Andersen Frank-Uwe To: "'p2prg@irtf.org'" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:34:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C3D52B.1579984A" Subject: [P2Prg] [mobility-temp]: initial collection and structure of subgroup re search items Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C3D52B.1579984A Content-Type: text/plain Dear sub-group, in order to take a step forward, I collected the results of the initial opinion poll on p2p mobility to compile a very first, tentative structure with suggested research directions (still very high-level). It takes into account and reflects what has been named by our subgroup participants, i.e. their research interests and current/past activities. It does not look like very much yet, but it should serve the purpose of getting into discussions again and to generate a common viewing angle on the subject. I will be happy to be the moderator. I did check with the descriptions of the other subgroups and tried my best to stay clear of too many overlaps. It is evident, however, that we relate to the routing subgroup. It would be nice if everybody who volunteered for participation in the mobility subgroup could give their comments to the attached small text. Don't hesitate to use the "comment" mechanism in WORD. We may also switch to other forms of collaborative online work, such as writable web mechanisms (e.g. webdav, cvs, etc.). My understanding is that we are not by all means trying to do a brand new design for a p2p system yet (see the charter). Instead, what we will do is to start by analysis, and then to switch over to find solutions or enhancements eventually. So, if we can agree on this (or a refined, advanced) version of the attached, proposed structure, then our next step _might_ be the collection of mobile device requirements and mobile infrastructure limitations that specifically affect p2p. btw. a short time ago the IRTF announced the start of a dedicated IP mobility optimizations group http://www.irtf.org/charters/mobopts.html . If we ever come to a point where we need extensions to e.g. mobile-ip for p2p, this might be a place where we can find people to discuss it with. I wish everybody a successful new year, Frank-Uwe p.s. 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([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeGYG-0002uI-Ug; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:29:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeGXQ-0002sM-Tl for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:28:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA17548 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeGXQ-0003vk-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:28:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeGVW-0003sg-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:26:11 -0500 Received: from brunello.labnet.cnit.it ([217.9.64.3]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeGUv-0003p5-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:25:33 -0500 Received: from origano.savona.cnit.it (origano.savona.cnit.it [217.9.65.67]) by brunello.labnet.cnit.it (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i07GOvuw015880; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:24:58 +0100 Received: from baronepc ([217.9.65.48]) by origano.savona.cnit.it (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-5) with SMTP id i07GOtdS012786; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:24:55 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c3d53c$16962ac0$304109d9@baronepc> From: "Luca Caviglione" To: "Andersen Frank-Uwe" Cc: References: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C1BA@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> Subject: Re: [P2Prg] [mobility-temp]: initial collection and structure of subgroup re search items Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:34:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C3D544.7790DA20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C3D544.7790DA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Frank-Uwe and all, please find attached some taughts about p2p mobility. They are provided in a separate txt file. They are provided as a "starting point" and maybe they will be integrated with the document provided by Frank-Uwe. At this stage, I fully agree with the proposed organization. [CUT] Don't hesitate to use the "comment" mechanism in WORD. We may also switch to other forms of collaborative online work, such as writable web mechanisms (e.g. webdav, cvs, etc.). [CUT] If they are reasonable and interesting I'll update Frank-Uwe's document. Best regards, Luca > p.s. Cheers to Luca for a well-done article in the "p2p journal"! ehehe, thank you very much! I hope to write some papers with you and the other members in the future! ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C3D544.7790DA20 Content-Type: text/plain; name="mobility.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mobility.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable p2p Mobility: some taughts from Luca=20 Here you will find some possible topics for p2p mobility. Of course, it = will be a long-term run: they are only intended to be an "immediate" = feedback to Frank-Uwe. =20 Mobility is often achieved by using a non-wired physical medium. = Wireless technologies on one hand introduce some benefits and on the = other hand present some trivial characteristics. The major problem = arises because: The bandwidth availability could vary during the connection lifetime.=20 The traffic flow (e.g. a TCP stream) could be influenced by a heavy BER = pattern. Due to mobility, connection could be intermittent or impeded for a = period (that could be long). Broadcast based medium introduces both security and privacy hazards: = malicious information could be inserted in the p2p-networked = infrastructure (actually, this issue will be discussed in the security = subgroup but I think it will reflect in some requirement within = p2p-mdr). Probably some authentications mechanism must be introduced in = mobile devices.=20 Mobility is often related to handheld devices such as, phones, PDAs =85 = limited storage capacity and limited computational resources should be = taken into account.=20 Mobile nodes should implement something caching techniques to deliver = data to impeded ones. In this perspective, will a =93caching sub-section = specification=94 useful?=20 x. Mobile Node Cache a. Data Caching b. Route Caching c. Query Caching d. Proxy based entry point providing =85 =85 I think that some requirements will be tightly coupled with the =93p2p = Overlay Infrastructure=94 and with the =93Meta-Data strategies=94. = Infrastructure will reflect in protocol requirements due to interaction = with other actors, while Meta-Data will reflect in the overall = =93protocol-tree=94 and maybe in some mandatory middleware piece.=20 Again, =93p2p Overlay Infrastructure=94 will reflect in some mandatory = requirement for mobile devices. Taking inspiration from JXTA, we can = envisage some differentiated core requirements related to the mobile = nodes=92categorization: peer resolvers, pipe binder =85=20 Mobility support concerns also naming issues. Naming support will be = provided by some kind of authority or in a cooperative-flat fashion. The = two approaches reflect in different mobile requirements. =20 Will a mobile node act as a rendezvous point? Rendezvous will imply two = main branches in requirements: y. Requirements for Mobile Rendezvous a. To allow initial connections b. To resolve the loss of connectivity due to simultaneous movements. = c. To implement =93data-push=94.=20 In addition, some investigation in the software architecture should be = envisaged. IMHO, a minimal layered architecture should be analyzed = (e.g., mobile context, background agents =85).=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C3D544.7790DA20-- _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 7 21:35:00 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA19611 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeQ0E-0001BJ-Ec for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:34:33 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i082YUul004541 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:34:30 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeQ0E-0001B7-7b for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:34:30 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA19522 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeQ0B-0001Dc-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:34:27 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AePxz-0000oP-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:32:12 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AePrD-0000VK-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:25:11 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AePlu-0001F1-LL for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:19:42 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AePlF-0000gj-4I; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:19:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AePkh-0000fO-Jj for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:18:32 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA19193 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AePkY-0000GP-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:18:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AePgf-0000DN-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:14:18 -0500 Received: from cms4.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.14] helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AePg4-0000AZ-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:13:41 -0500 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id CK0BFK9J; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:15:42 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: "'Andersen Frank-Uwe'" , Cc: "autonet" Subject: RE: [P2Prg] [mobility-temp]: initial collection and structure of subgroup re search items Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:13:07 +0900 Message-ID: <000001c3d58c$f51556e0$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C1BA@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Andersen. I want to modify two categories related to ad-hoc network as following. .Ad-hoc networks 1. pure ad-hoc : infrastructureless 2. with internet connectivity (including mobility management with SIP/MIP) As you know, MANET itself originally is devised to allow mobile devices to communication each other without infrastructure(AP etc.). Although Internet connectivity seems to be accepted as an important research(engineering) topic in MANET area, the most important design requirement is that the support of Internet connectivity should be based on original(basic) purpuse, assumptions(related to glboal addresses), functionality(mainly routing protocol) of ad hoc networking. So, I suggest two items. The first one is "pure ad-hoc network". Under this, we should question if the state of art architectures of P2P system can work well or even in tolerable manner unner MANET environment. If not, we should clearly define the problems which may be due to just frequent topology changes or routing protocols or P2P system itself. I suggest P2P routing enhancement under MANET routing protocols and the support of MANET routing protocols through MANET API. Or we can consider new architecture which has its own dedicated routing mechanism in order to work without MANET routing protocol running. Also, co-opration with reactive/proactive routing protocols should be taken account. Second is related to internet connectivity. At this stage, I do not see any clear goals coupled with P2P. MANET protocols(routing, internet connecvity) only provide upper layers as well as MIP/SIP with the transparency of frequent topology changes. In other words, MIP view a multipop path to a GW as just one link. In this sense, the first item "cellular environment" seems to be sufficient. Anyway, this is just my point. Thanks, HyunWook Cha > -----Original Message----- > From: p2prg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-admin@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Andersen Frank-Uwe > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:34 PM > To: 'p2prg@irtf.org' > Subject: [P2Prg] [mobility-temp]: initial collection and > structure of subgroup re search items > > > > Dear sub-group, > > in order to take a step forward, I collected the results of > the initial opinion poll on p2p mobility to compile a very > first, tentative structure with suggested research directions > (still very high-level). It takes into account and reflects > what has been named by our subgroup participants, i.e. their > research interests and current/past activities. > > It does not look like very much yet, but it should serve the > purpose of getting into discussions again and to generate a > common viewing angle on the subject. I will be happy to be > the moderator. > > I did check with the descriptions of the other subgroups and > tried my best to stay clear of too many overlaps. It is > evident, however, that we relate to the routing subgroup. > > It would be nice if everybody who volunteered for > participation in the mobility subgroup could give their > comments to the attached small text. Don't hesitate to use > the "comment" mechanism in WORD. We may also switch to other > forms of collaborative online work, such as writable web > mechanisms (e.g. webdav, cvs, etc.). > > My understanding is that we are not by all means trying to do > a brand new design for a p2p system yet (see the charter). > Instead, what we will do is to start by analysis, and then to > switch over to find solutions or enhancements eventually. So, > if we can agree on this (or a refined, advanced) version of > the attached, proposed structure, then our next step _might_ > be the collection of mobile device requirements and mobile > infrastructure limitations that specifically affect p2p. > > > btw. a short time ago the IRTF announced the start of a > dedicated IP mobility optimizations group > http://www.irtf.org/charters/mobopts.html . If we ever come > to a point where we need extensions to e.g. mobile-ip for > p2p, this might be a place where we can find people to > discuss it with. > > > I wish everybody a successful new year, > > Frank-Uwe > > p.s. Cheers to Luca for a well-done article in the "p2p journal"! > > > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 09:39:29 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02175 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aexmu-0000X1-Pc for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:39:01 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i09Ed0kk002038 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:39:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aexmu-0000Wn-CA for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:39:00 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02159 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aexms-0005C2-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:38:58 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AexlD-00057o-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:37:16 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aexk6-00050v-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:36:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aexk1-00006O-PH; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:36:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AexjC-00005G-5i for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:35:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02023 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AexjA-0004yO-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:35:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AexhM-0004sK-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:33:17 -0500 Received: from albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.49]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AexgA-0004lL-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:32:03 -0500 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.120]) by albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.10/8.12.10/WIREfire-1.8b) with ESMTP id i09EVuqY021840; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:31:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: <2EFFD98DEBD6FD42AA1B21153E735975013C05E9@esealnt803.al.sw.ericsson.se> From: "Johan Hjelm (KI/EAB)" To: "'Andersen Frank-Uwe'" , "'p2prg@irtf.org'" Subject: RE: [P2Prg] [mobility-temp]: initial collection and structure of subgroup re search items Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:25:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Frank-Uwe, this is a good starting point, and should take us quite a bit into the mobile domain. However, as a general comment, I think the list is a bit skimpy in the mobile optimizations department. The messaging between peers can be done in several ways, some of which will e.g. tolerate more latency and be less sensitive to disconnections than others. This type of aspects is what I would look for in the result of this sub-group. IMHO, a section on protocol design (in cellular as well as ad-hoc networks) would be desirable. Also, I think we should define a track on "mobile optimizations" under Content and services. We can either explain how each content/service we develop is mobile optimized, or we can come up with a set of generic guidelines. I would prefer the latter. Also, I would like a section on "interfacing non-mobile networks". This comes from our work in proxying, and I would suggest that this goes under the "application" section. There can be a set of generic recommendations for proxies, as well as a set of specifics. I do not understand why you are highlighting SIP/MIP, perhaps you could explain? Why do you see ontological routing as a specifically mobile aspect? I would have thought this would go into some generic topology/routing group. I look forward to version 2.0, on which I am sure to have some more comments... Johan > -----Original Message----- > From: p2prg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Andersen Frank-Uwe > Sent: den 7 januari 2004 15:34 > To: 'p2prg@irtf.org' > Subject: [P2Prg] [mobility-temp]: initial collection and structure of > subgroup re search items > > > > Dear sub-group, > > in order to take a step forward, I collected the results of > the initial opinion poll on p2p mobility to compile a very > first, tentative structure with suggested research directions > (still very high-level). It takes into account and reflects > what has been named by our subgroup participants, i.e. their > research interests and current/past activities. > > It does not look like very much yet, but it should serve the > purpose of getting into discussions again and to generate a > common viewing angle on the subject. I will be happy to be > the moderator. > > I did check with the descriptions of the other subgroups and > tried my best to stay clear of too many overlaps. It is > evident, however, that we relate to the routing subgroup. > > It would be nice if everybody who volunteered for > participation in the mobility subgroup could give their > comments to the attached small text. Don't hesitate to use > the "comment" mechanism in WORD. We may also switch to other > forms of collaborative online work, such as writable web > mechanisms (e.g. webdav, cvs, etc.). > > My understanding is that we are not by all means trying to do > a brand new design for a p2p system yet (see the charter). > Instead, what we will do is to start by analysis, and then to > switch over to find solutions or enhancements eventually. So, > if we can agree on this (or a refined, advanced) version of > the attached, proposed structure, then our next step _might_ > be the collection of mobile device requirements and mobile > infrastructure limitations that specifically affect p2p. > > > btw. a short time ago the IRTF announced the start of a > dedicated IP mobility optimizations group > http://www.irtf.org/charters/mobopts.html . If we ever come > to a point where we need extensions to e.g. mobile-ip for > p2p, this might be a place where we can find people to > discuss it with. > > > I wish everybody a successful new year, > > Frank-Uwe > > p.s. 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Passwords for p2prg-archive@lists.ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- p2prg@ietf.org enimbi https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/p2prg/p2prg-archive%40lists.ietf.org From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Jan 11 16:05:17 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA17028 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfmlN-0001y6-Ap for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:04:49 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0BL4nFw007560 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:04:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfmlN-0001xr-6r for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:04:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA16932 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfmlL-00058v-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:04:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Afmjm-0004zE-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:03:11 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Afmhn-0004mh-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:01:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Afmhi-0001Zp-OZ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:01:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Afmgt-0001WI-PB for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:00:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA16562 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Afmgs-0004cI-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:00:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Afmbh-0004U9-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:54:49 -0500 Received: from proxy.cs.umd.edu ([128.8.128.182] helo=poole.cs.umd.edu) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfmZ6-0004N8-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:52:08 -0500 Received: from poole.cs.umd.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by poole.cs.umd.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0BKuJEL017202 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:56:19 -0500 Received: (from bobby@localhost) by poole.cs.umd.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0BKuI4Q017198; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:56:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:56:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200401112056.i0BKuI4Q017198@poole.cs.umd.edu> From: To: p2prg@irtf.org Reply-to: Bobby Bhattacharjee Subject: [P2Prg] Sub-group mailing lists. Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Folk: Greetings. I come bearing mailing lists: the subgroup lists are ready. The mailing lists are of the form: p2prg-[X]@cs.umd.edu where [X] \in {mobility, metadata, drlp, security, apps, overlay}. There is a web page for each of the lists at: http://www.cs.umd.edu/mailman/listinfo/p2prg-[X] Users can subscribe, unsubscribe, and change preferences from these pages. There is also an email-based interface. You can get information about using the email interface sending a message with just the word 'help' as subject or in the body, to: p2prg-[X]-request@cs.umd.edu Right now, I have added some default admins; we'll be adding subgroup leaders as admins. Please subscribe to appropriate lists, and I hope we can start using these to their full effect soon. Bill and Bobby. p.s. Just to ensure I have not confused anyone with my notation, the "mobility" list would be accessible via p2prg-mobility@cs.umd.edu Note also that our usual irtf hosted list will also remain active. _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 06:15:25 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA22017 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag025-0006zS-Ub for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:14:58 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CBEvSQ026867 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:14:57 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag025-0006zG-OP for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:14:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA22003 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag021-0003el-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:14:53 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag00A-0003be-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:12:59 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfzyJ-0003Yr-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:11:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfzyI-0006du-Rf; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:11:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfzyE-0006dM-OD for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:10:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA21943 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:10:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfzyB-0003XT-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:10:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfzwI-0003V2-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:08:58 -0500 Received: from mordor.cerego.co.jp ([210.158.200.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfzvH-0003Ss-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:07:55 -0500 Received: from CEREGO_EXCHANGE.cerego.co.jp (optional02.cerego.co.jp [192.168.2.1]) by mordor.cerego.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B65739B; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:02:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from neurogrid.com (frodo.cerego.co.jp [192.168.2.3]) by CEREGO_EXCHANGE.cerego.co.jp with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id ZHMQ4MXL; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:00:30 +0900 Message-ID: <40027FE0.3070608@neurogrid.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:07:12 +0900 From: Sam Joseph Reply-To: sam@neurogrid.com Organization: NeuroGrid http://www.neurogrid.net/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja-JP; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2prg@irtf.org, p2prg-metadata@cs.umd.edu References: <200401112056.i0BKuI4Q017198@poole.cs.umd.edu> In-Reply-To: <200401112056.i0BKuI4Q017198@poole.cs.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Verified by MailScanner (Mordor) X-MailScanner: STATUS-CLEAN X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.7, required 5, AWL 0.00, EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION -0.50, IN_REP_TO -0.50, REFERENCES -0.50, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES -0.50, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA 0.00, X_ACCEPT_LANG -0.10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2Prg] MetaData SubGroup Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Many thanks to Bobby for the new lists. I'm subscribed to p2prg-metadata, and I hope others will join. Since that might take a while I thought I'd just post an introductory mail to both the main list and the meta-data list. In future I'll just post to the meta-data list. So the concept for the meta-data subgroup comes to a certain extent from a review paper I published last year: http://search.ieice.org/2003/pdf/e86-b_6_1740.pdf Due to a problem with proof reading the abstract came through in rather odd English, but I hope you'll forgive that and read on. Here's an excerpt from the introduction: "Recent developments in peer-to-peer networks have centered on the concept of distributed hashtables (DHT) or content routing. These approaches assume possession of a hash or other identifier that precisely specifies the document the user wishes to retrieve. Naturally there are some situations in which a user only has more general information about their needs, e.g. keywords or other meta-data. A number of different strategies for handling this kind of search in peer-to-peer networks have recently come to light [and are described herein]." So meta-data strategies is all about trying to deal with data that imprecisely defines the things we are searching for. To my mind it also encapsulated issues of trust and reputation, because the crucial thing about an open p2p system is that everyone can publish meta-data and no-one gets to vet it for accuracy; at least not at the moment it is published. Trust or reputation ratings assigned to peers or files in a p2p network can be thought of as a kind of meta-data, and so I am currently trying to assemble a list of different p2p reputation systems. You can see my ongoing notes and listing here: http://www.neurogrid.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReputationAndTrust It's all a bit rough, but then it's a wiki, so anyone who wants to dive in and help me organise all this, I would be most grateful. One day it might become another review paper on p2p reputation :-) Co-authors would be most welcome. I think my ongoing objectives are to try and classify all the different approaches to meta-data, trust and reputation in different p2p systems. Ultimately I'd like to try and move towards some standardized ways of publishing meta-data. However in the first instance I think a taxonomical approach is the best to try and help us all get a feel for what is on offer in this developing field. My own review of MetaData strategies is in all likelihood out of data already, so let's see what we can do to keep ourselves up to date. I think a good short term goal would be to put together a list of relevant publications on the wiki - ideally with notes and comments hidden one layer down. Comments, thoughts? Thanks in advance. CHEERS> SAM bobby@cs.umd.edu wrote: >Folk: > >Greetings. I come bearing mailing lists: the subgroup lists are >ready. > >The mailing lists are of the form: > > p2prg-[X]@cs.umd.edu > >where [X] \in {mobility, metadata, drlp, security, apps, overlay}. > > >There is a web page for each of the lists at: > http://www.cs.umd.edu/mailman/listinfo/p2prg-[X] > >Users can subscribe, unsubscribe, and change preferences from these >pages. There is also an email-based interface. You can get >information about using the email interface sending a message with >just the word 'help' as subject or in the body, to: > > p2prg-[X]-request@cs.umd.edu > >Right now, I have added some default admins; we'll be adding subgroup >leaders as admins. > >Please subscribe to appropriate lists, and I hope we can start using >these to their full effect soon. > >Bill and Bobby. > >p.s. >Just to ensure I have not confused anyone with my notation, the >"mobility" list would be accessible via > >p2prg-mobility@cs.umd.edu > >Note also that our usual irtf hosted list will also remain active. > > > >_______________________________________________ >P2prg mailing list >P2prg@irtf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg > > > > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 14:16:24 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11920 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7XY-00017v-NQ for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:15:56 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CJFuQI004325 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:15:56 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7XY-00017g-Hy for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:15:56 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11916 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7XW-0001qh-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:15:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7Ve-0001oz-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:13:59 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7Uj-0001nW-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:13:01 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7Uj-00011x-4G; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:13:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7Tp-000119-NA for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:12:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11822 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7Tn-0001mM-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:12:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7S3-0001k1-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:10:15 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.105.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7R4-0001g9-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:09:14 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0CJBrD7032098 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:11:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (dbansal@localhost) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0CJBnx4032094 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:11:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:11:49 -0500 (EST) From: Dushyant Bansal To: p2prg@irtf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Guys, is it just me or has access to the subgroups been blocked? I've subscribed to the sub-groups of course but on trying to access the archives, I keep getting this message for each group respectively (shouldn't it display a blank message board if there aren't any messages?): Archive File Not Found No file /p2prg-overlay/ (/fs/mailman/archives/private/p2prg-overlay/) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dushyant Bansal MASc Student, Computer Engineering, Shoshin Distributed Systems Lab, University of Waterloo, Canada http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~dbansal Office: 519-888-4567 x.2095 Lab: 519-888-4567 x.6641 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 14:42:35 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA13012 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7wt-000235-D5 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CJg7CS007868 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7wt-00022n-7C for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA13002 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7wq-0002yU-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:04 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7v5-0002vL-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:40:16 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7ts-0002re-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:39:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7tt-0001uu-F9; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:39:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag7sv-0001rc-IL for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:38:01 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12857 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7ss-0002pV-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:37:58 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7r9-0002nJ-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:36:11 -0500 Received: from xor.cs.umd.edu ([128.8.128.118]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag7pR-0002gO-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:34:25 -0500 Received: (from capveg@localhost) by xor.cs.umd.edu (8.12.10/8.12.5) id i0CJXuGB025054; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:33:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:33:56 -0500 From: Rob To: Dushyant Bansal Cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked Message-ID: <20040112193356.GS23854@xor.cs.umd.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > Guys, is it just me or has access to the subgroups been blocked? I've > subscribed to the sub-groups of course but on trying to access the > archives, I keep getting this message for each group respectively > (shouldn't it display a blank message board if there aren't any > messages?): > > Archive File Not Found > No file /p2prg-overlay/ (/fs/mailman/archives/private/p2prg-overlay/) Hi Dishyant, It would appear that the archiving features for the lists were not turned on by default, and that the software is just not failing gracefully when the archives do not exist. I have turned on arching for the lists, and will take a look into it making it more graceful. Let me know if you have any other concerns, - Rob . _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 15:10:26 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA15365 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8Nr-0003A8-46 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:09:59 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CK9xZg012150 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:09:59 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8Nq-00039t-Vp for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:09:59 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA15282 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Nn-0004mS-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:09:56 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Lq-0004h6-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:07:54 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8K3-0004fX-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:06:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8K3-0002jM-Mu; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:06:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8Js-0002i4-Hf for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:05:52 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA14821 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Jp-0004f6-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:05:49 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Ji-0004eA-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:05:42 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.105.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8JS-0004ZP-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:05:26 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0CK8GD7032662; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:08:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (dbansal@localhost) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0CK8FVg032658; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:08:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:08:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dushyant Bansal To: Rob cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked In-Reply-To: <20040112193356.GS23854@xor.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 There should be at least one message on the metadata subgroup list, judging from the message posted by Sam Joseph. But I can't even see that message and receive the same error message when I try to access the metadata subgroup archive. However, it's probably because the archiving feature wasn't turned on that even the single post on p2prg-metadata wasn't showing up... -Dushyant On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Rob wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:33:56 -0500 > From: Rob > To: Dushyant Bansal > Cc: p2prg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > > Guys, is it just me or has access to the subgroups been blocked? I've > > subscribed to the sub-groups of course but on trying to access the > > archives, I keep getting this message for each group respectively > > (shouldn't it display a blank message board if there aren't any > > messages?): > > > > Archive File Not Found > > No file /p2prg-overlay/ (/fs/mailman/archives/private/p2prg-overlay/) > > Hi Dishyant, > > It would appear that the archiving features for the lists were not turned > on by default, and that the software is just not failing gracefully > when the archives do not exist. I have turned on arching for the lists, > and will take a look into it making it more graceful. > > Let me know if you have any other concerns, > > - Rob > . > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dushyant Bansal MASc Student, Computer Engineering, Shoshin Distributed Systems Lab, University of Waterloo, Canada http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~dbansal Office: 519-888-4567 x.2095 Lab: 519-888-4567 x.6641 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 15:15:24 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA16280 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8Sd-0003Lo-KX for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:14:55 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CKEtYQ012874 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:14:55 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8Sd-0003LZ-F9 for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:14:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA16192 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Sc-0005LQ-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:14:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Qm-00058B-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:13:01 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8Op-0004wE-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8Or-0003C3-EF; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:11:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8O3-0003BY-Br for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA15330 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8O0-0004oK-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8M4-0004iw-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:08:09 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.105.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8LI-0004fp-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:07:20 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0CKA9D7032684; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (dbansal@localhost) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0CKA8st032680; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:10:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dushyant Bansal To: Rob cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Nope, that wasn't it. Still no luck with accessing the metadata list. -Dushyant On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:08:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Dushyant Bansal > To: Rob > Cc: p2prg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked > > There should be at least one message on the metadata subgroup list, > judging from the message posted by Sam Joseph. But I can't even see that > message and receive the same error message when I try to access the > metadata subgroup archive. However, it's probably because the archiving > feature wasn't turned on that even the single post on p2prg-metadata > wasn't showing up... > > -Dushyant > > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Rob wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:33:56 -0500 > > From: Rob > > To: Dushyant Bansal > > Cc: p2prg@irtf.org > > Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > > > Guys, is it just me or has access to the subgroups been blocked? I've > > > subscribed to the sub-groups of course but on trying to access the > > > archives, I keep getting this message for each group respectively > > > (shouldn't it display a blank message board if there aren't any > > > messages?): > > > > > > Archive File Not Found > > > No file /p2prg-overlay/ (/fs/mailman/archives/private/p2prg-overlay/) > > > > Hi Dishyant, > > > > It would appear that the archiving features for the lists were not turned > > on by default, and that the software is just not failing gracefully > > when the archives do not exist. I have turned on arching for the lists, > > and will take a look into it making it more graceful. > > > > Let me know if you have any other concerns, > > > > - Rob > > . > > > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dushyant Bansal MASc Student, Computer Engineering, Shoshin Distributed Systems Lab, University of Waterloo, Canada http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~dbansal Office: 519-888-4567 x.2095 Lab: 519-888-4567 x.6641 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 15:42:22 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA17893 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8sk-0004BB-0t for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:41:54 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CKfrg2016059 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:41:53 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8sj-0004Aw-Nu for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:41:53 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA17828 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8si-0006X5-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:41:52 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8qt-0006Qm-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:40:00 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8p0-0006M5-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:38:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8oy-00040k-8U; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:38:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag8ot-0003zF-RV for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:37:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA17633 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8os-0006Kb-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:37:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8n1-0006Gp-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:36:00 -0500 Received: from xor.cs.umd.edu ([128.8.128.118]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag8lN-0006AU-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:34:17 -0500 Received: (from capveg@localhost) by xor.cs.umd.edu (8.12.10/8.12.5) id i0CKXmQF026432; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:33:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:33:47 -0500 From: Rob To: Dushyant Bansal Cc: Rob , p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked Message-ID: <20040112203347.GV23854@xor.cs.umd.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 03:10:08PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > Nope, that wasn't it. Still no luck with accessing the metadata list. I have tweaked the settings and sent a test message to p2prg-overlay, and now I am able to get the archives. Please verify for me that you also see my test message through the archives, and I will propagate the change to the other lists. Sorry for the problems, - Rob . _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 15:58:38 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA18712 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag98T-0004j4-PV for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:58:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CKw9Mn018160 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:58:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag98T-0004ip-Kw for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:58:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA18697 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag98S-0007Oi-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:58:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag96g-0007M5-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:56:18 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag95U-0007IP-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:55:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag95S-0004ay-4y; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:55:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag94V-0004aE-Rf for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:54:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA18566 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag94U-0007Gx-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:54:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag92d-0007Es-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:52:07 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.105.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag92I-0007CO-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:51:46 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0CKsYD7000649; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:54:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (dbansal@localhost) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0CKsYjB000645; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:54:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:54:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dushyant Bansal To: Rob cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked In-Reply-To: <20040112203347.GV23854@xor.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 I still get the same "archive file not found" message actually. And I'm using someone else's computer to access the p2prg-metadata list this time, so there isn't any issue of browser caching. -Dushyant On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Rob wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:33:47 -0500 > From: Rob > To: Dushyant Bansal > Cc: Rob , p2prg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 03:10:08PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > > Nope, that wasn't it. Still no luck with accessing the metadata list. > > I have tweaked the settings and sent a test message to p2prg-overlay, > and now I am able to get the archives. Please verify for me that you > also see my test message through the archives, and I will propagate the > change to the other lists. > > Sorry for the problems, > > - Rob > . > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dushyant Bansal MASc Student, Computer Engineering, Shoshin Distributed Systems Lab, University of Waterloo, Canada http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~dbansal Office: 519-888-4567 x.2095 Lab: 519-888-4567 x.6641 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 16:11:40 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA19914 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag9L5-0005db-UH for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CLBBd9021665 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag9L5-0005dM-Py for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA19774 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag9L4-0000Mp-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag9J4-00007O-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:09:06 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag9H8-0007iW-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:07:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag9H2-0004wa-TS; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:07:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag9G8-0004uY-Fq for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:06:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA19180 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag9G6-0007eP-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:06:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag9EG-0007aA-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:04:08 -0500 Received: from xor.cs.umd.edu ([128.8.128.118]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag9Ch-0007VF-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:02:31 -0500 Received: (from capveg@localhost) by xor.cs.umd.edu (8.12.10/8.12.5) id i0CL21WJ027289; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:02:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:02:01 -0500 From: Rob To: Dushyant Bansal Cc: Rob , p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked Message-ID: <20040112210201.GC26620@xor.cs.umd.edu> References: <20040112203347.GV23854@xor.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > I still get the same "archive file not found" message actually. And I'm > using someone else's computer to access the p2prg-metadata list this time, > so there isn't any issue of browser caching. > > I have tweaked the settings and sent a test message to p2prg-overlay, > > and now I am able to get the archives. Please verify for me that you > > also see my test message through the archives, and I will propagate the > > change to the other lists. Sorry that I wasn't clear, but I did it specifically for the p2prg-overlay, which is where I thought you had the original problem. I just wanted to make sure it was working correctly, before I changed all of the other lists. I have done the same change to the metadata list, so please check again to see if you can see my post. Once I have it verified that it works, I can try to retroactively add Sam Josephs original post. - Rob . _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 19:40:54 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA02267 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgCbZ-0003xO-82 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:40:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0D0ePFC015206 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:40:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgCbY-0003xB-KJ for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:40:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA02190 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgCbW-0004sD-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:40:23 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgCZW-0004jP-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:38:18 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgCYO-0004dt-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:37:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgCYH-0003Zs-Hc; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:37:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgCXO-0003Y0-6h for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:36:06 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA02062 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgCXM-0004bX-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:36:04 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgCVY-0004Xt-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:34:13 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.105.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgCUX-0004Tk-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:33:09 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0D0ZxD7002702; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:35:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (dbansal@localhost) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0D0ZwTw002698; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:35:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:35:58 -0500 (EST) From: Dushyant Bansal To: Rob cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked In-Reply-To: <20040112210201.GC26620@xor.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Ah, my apologies. Yes, it works now! For both overlay and metadata. However, the metadata doesn't show Sam Joseph's message. I'm assuming it wasn't recorded because archiving was turned off at the time he sent the message? -Dushyant On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Rob wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:02:01 -0500 > From: Rob > To: Dushyant Bansal > Cc: Rob , p2prg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > > I still get the same "archive file not found" message actually. And I'm > > using someone else's computer to access the p2prg-metadata list this time, > > so there isn't any issue of browser caching. > > > I have tweaked the settings and sent a test message to p2prg-overlay, > > > and now I am able to get the archives. Please verify for me that you > > > also see my test message through the archives, and I will propagate the > > > change to the other lists. > > Sorry that I wasn't clear, but I did it specifically for the > p2prg-overlay, which is where I thought you had the original problem. > I just wanted to make sure it was working correctly, before I changed all > of the other lists. I have done the same change to the metadata list, so > please check again to see if you can see my post. Once I have it verified > that it works, I can try to retroactively add Sam Josephs original post. > > - Rob > . > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dushyant Bansal MASc Student, Computer Engineering, Shoshin Distributed Systems Lab, University of Waterloo, Canada http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~dbansal Office: 519-888-4567 x.2095 Lab: 519-888-4567 x.6641 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 14:22:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05792 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgU7N-0005oX-Os for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0DJMPHS022343 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgU7N-0005oI-J6 for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05764 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU7L-0007Oh-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:23 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU5X-0007Lf-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:20:32 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU4K-0007Gs-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:19:16 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgU45-0005f1-I3; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:19:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgU42-0005ej-AA for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05482 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU3w-0007Dg-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:52 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU23-00072F-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:16:56 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.105.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU0P-0006kC-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from styx.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0DJI5D7013100; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (dbansal@localhost) by styx.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0DJI5YQ013096; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:05 -0500 (EST) From: Dushyant Bansal To: Rob cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked In-Reply-To: <20040112210201.GC26620@xor.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Sam Joseph's message also shows up in p2prg-metadata. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dushyant Bansal MASc Student, Computer Engineering, Shoshin Distributed Systems Lab, University of Waterloo, Canada http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~dbansal Office: 519-888-4567 x.2095 Lab: 519-888-4567 x.6641 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 14:28:52 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06005 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgUDA-00069g-QF for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:28:24 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0DJSO8b023654 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:28:24 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgUDA-00069R-Kt for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:28:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05974 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgUD8-0007as-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:28:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgUBN-0007YB-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:26:34 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU9u-0007V7-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:25:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgU9u-0005us-FL; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:25:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgU9D-0005tP-AM for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:24:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05841 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU9A-0007Rk-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:24:16 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU7I-0007OP-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:22:21 -0500 Received: from xor.cs.umd.edu ([128.8.128.118]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgU5U-0007Iw-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:20:28 -0500 Received: (from capveg@localhost) by xor.cs.umd.edu (8.12.10/8.12.5) id i0DJJvuc012214; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:19:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:19:57 -0500 From: Rob To: Dushyant Bansal Cc: Rob , p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Access to sub-groups blocked Message-ID: <20040113191957.GG9142@xor.cs.umd.edu> References: <20040112210201.GC26620@xor.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 02:18:05PM -0500, Dushyant Bansal wrote: > Sam Joseph's message also shows up in p2prg-metadata. He actually resent it on his own, so everything should be working now. Thanks, and let me know if you see any additional problems, - Rob . _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Jan 18 23:30:47 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA16246 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiR3L-00079U-Uf for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:20 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0J4UJIG027491 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:19 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiR3L-00079H-OD for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA16225 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AiR3J-0006PE-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AiR2Q-0006NJ-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:29:23 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AiR28-0006Ke-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:29:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiR24-00074Q-NV; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:29:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiR1X-00073C-DX for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:28:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA16059 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AiR1V-0006Hf-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:28:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AiR0c-0006Al-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:27:31 -0500 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AiQzc-000664-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:26:28 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: VSJ4Gu07SxfRyEWx+v941A 1074486386 Received: from [10.0.1.3] (adsl-63-202-173-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.173.214]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8294AC897 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:26:26 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: p2p-irtf From: Bill Yeager Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:26:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2Prg] Let's get going Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello there, So, we have the mailing lists in place, and all is set for discussions. Let's get on with joining the appropriate lists, and doing some good research! 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Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:27:05 +0100 Received: from musa (wi3d28.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.106.128]) by nero.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC26D6F58E; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:25:25 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: From: "Kurt Tutschku" To: , , , , , , , Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:26:54 +0100 Organization: Uni Wuerzburg Message-ID: <002501c3ded2$f5f5c910$806abb84@musa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (Rechenzentrum Universitaet Wuerzburg) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2Prg] CfP: ETT Special Issue on P2P Networking and P2P Services Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please, accept our apologies if multiple copies are received. *********************************************************************** Deadline for paper submissions is March 31, 2004 *********************************************************************** CALL FOR PAPERS European Transactions on Telecommunications (ETT) (http://www.interscience.wiley.com/) Special Issue on P2P Networking and P2P Services Peer-to-peer (P2P) services have evolved to the most popular applications in today's Internet. Remarkably, only very simple protocols and almost no support by the transport network were needed to make these distributed services operable on a large scale in little time. P2P entails a highly attractive paradigm in distributed computing: P2P is based on communication between equals. The peers are highly autonomous. P2P services provide simple and efficient mechanisms to pool and share exchangeable resources like CPU cycles, disk space or content. These features allow that any peer can be removed without resulting in a complete loss of service, in contrast to the traditional client/server concept where a failure of the central entity may corrupt the service completely. A P2P mode of operation, however, also has some downsides. P2P protocols cause high traffic volumes, including data traffic as well as signaling traffic. P2P network topologies reveal a high variability and P2P traffic patterns of P2P applications fluctuate strongly in time and space. It is anticipated that traditional network design techniques and traffic engineering procedures may not longer be applicable. New methods are needed that maintain the autonomous and self-organizing characteristics of P2P in order to provide appropriate service stability, quality, and efficiency. The focus of the special issue of ETT will include (but is not limited to) the following topics (see also http://www-info3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/staff/tutschku/ETTCFPP2P.pd f ): - P2P applications and services - P2P protocols, algorithms, and infrastructures - Performance measurements and performance analysis of P2P networks - Security, privacy and accounting issues in P2P networks - Mobile P2P over different kinds of bearer services - Mobile P2P algorithms - Mobile P2P & operator/provider requirements - Business cases for P2P Electronic submission of pdf files or uuencoded gzipped postscript files is strongly encouraged. Please send your document to: tutschku@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de The following deadlines will apply: - Submission of manuscripts March 31, 2004 - Notification of acceptance June 15, 2004 - Submission of final manuscript July 15, 2004 - Publication 3rd quarter 2004 Kurt Tutschku (Coordinating guest editor) Depart. Distributed Systems, Institute of Computer Science, University of Wuerzburg, Germany. tutschku@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de Hermann de Meer Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Passau, Germany. demeer@fmi.uni-passau.de Frank-Uwe Andersen ICM - Future IP technologies - Siemens AG, Germany. Frank-Uwe.Andersen@siemens.com Konosuke Kawashima Dept. of Computer, Information and Communication Sciences Tokyo University of Agriculture & Technology, Japan. k-kawa@cc.tuat.ac.jp _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 05:25:31 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA15275 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFXj-0000Eb-CD for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:25:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LAP3R0000894 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:25:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFXj-0000EK-3L for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:25:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA15262 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFXf-0003fN-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:24:59 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFWf-0003b2-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:23:57 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFVp-0003Wl-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:23:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFVm-00007C-70; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:23:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFV0-0008Rl-Al for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:22:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA15144 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFUx-0003Ts-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:22:11 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFU6-0003Pr-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:21:19 -0500 Received: from thoth.sbs.de ([192.35.17.2]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFTQ-0003LU-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:20:37 -0500 Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i0LAKba21449 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:20:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from blues.mchh.siemens.de (blues.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.204.206]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i0LAKaP29585 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:20:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from mchh248e.mchh.siemens.de (mchh248e.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.200.58]) by blues.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13664 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:20:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by mchh248e.mchh.siemens.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:20:34 +0100 Message-ID: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C256@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> From: Andersen Frank-Uwe To: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:20:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [P2Prg] who is going to be at the ietf59 ? Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 hello all, how are chances for a p2p related side-meeting in seoul? regards, frank-uwe _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 05:40:32 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA15723 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFmG-00019Y-Oj for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:40:04 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LAe4SZ004418 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:40:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFmF-00018x-7a for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:40:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA15696 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFmB-0004Rt-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:39:59 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFlE-0004OM-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:39:01 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFkI-0004Kc-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:38:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFkH-0000vE-Ln; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:38:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjFkE-0000tX-Sy for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:37:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA15625 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFkB-0004JQ-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:37:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFjD-0004FU-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:36:56 -0500 Received: from eagle.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.53]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjFiJ-0004Cs-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:36:00 -0500 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.120]) by eagle.ericsson.se (8.12.10/8.12.10/WIREfire-1.8b) with ESMTP id i0LAa0Ah004669; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:36:00 +0100 Received: by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:37:55 +0100 Message-ID: <2EFFD98DEBD6FD42AA1B21153E735975013C06AD@esealnt803.al.sw.ericsson.se> From: "Johan Hjelm (KI/EAB)" To: "'Andersen Frank-Uwe'" , "'p2prg@ietf.org'" Subject: RE: [P2Prg] who is going to be at the ietf59 ? Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:36:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Sorry, I will miss out on that one. > -----Original Message----- > From: p2prg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Andersen Frank-Uwe > Sent: den 21 januari 2004 11:21 > To: 'p2prg@ietf.org' > Subject: [P2Prg] who is going to be at the ietf59 ? > > > hello all, > how are chances for a p2p related side-meeting in seoul? > regards, > frank-uwe > > _______________________________________________ > P2prg mailing list > P2prg@irtf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 12:27:44 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA01052 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjM8K-0006j7-KN for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:27:16 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LHRGqX025851 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:27:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjM8K-0006is-Ex for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:27:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA01002 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjM8E-0001F1-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:27:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjM7H-00019t-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:26:12 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjM6D-0000za-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:25:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjM6B-0006Uz-EZ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:25:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjM5S-0006Ss-Ko for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:24:18 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA00680 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:24:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjM5R-0000rk-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:24:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjM4N-0000pI-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:23:12 -0500 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjM45-0000nq-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:22:53 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: kwtn4tvHXeyzzTdwSTcxrg 1074705768 Received: from [10.0.1.3] (adsl-63-202-173-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.173.214]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE15C4B24DA; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:22:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C256@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> References: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C256@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E7E98C4-4C36-11D8-AC36-000A95766260@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" From: Bill Yeager Subject: Re: [P2Prg] who is going to be at the ietf59 ? Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:22:47 -0800 To: Andersen Frank-Uwe X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK by me. I will not be there though ... we do need to begin to prime the RG pump. Bill On Jan 21, 2004, at 2:20 AM, Andersen Frank-Uwe wrote: > hello all, > how are chances for a p2p related side-meeting in seoul? > regards, > frank-uwe _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 23 00:51:04 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA00308 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjuDF-0001Kh-KV for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:50:38 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0N5obgM005117 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:50:37 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjuDF-0001KS-Eu for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:50:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA00282 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjuDC-0004k6-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:50:34 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjuCB-0004eu-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:49:31 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjuBj-0004cU-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:49:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjuBh-0001C9-6j; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:49:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjuBB-000189-L3 for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:48:29 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA00166 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjuB8-0004aW-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:48:27 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjuA8-0004X1-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:47:24 -0500 Received: from smtp3.att.ne.jp ([165.76.15.139]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aju9F-0004UW-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:46:30 -0500 Received: from neurogrid.com (unknown [128.171.104.190]) by smtp3.att.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E247E378; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:46:28 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4010B52F.1000201@neurogrid.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:46:23 +0900 From: Sam Joseph Reply-To: sam@neurogrid.com Organization: NeuroGrid http://www.neurogrid.net/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja-JP; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andersen Frank-Uwe Cc: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [P2Prg] who is going to be at the ietf59 ? References: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C256@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> In-Reply-To: <5BE5F1117AEDD5118BFC0000D11EA39CC8C256@blns205e.bln.icn.siemens.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the date of this potential meeting? CHEERS> SAM Andersen Frank-Uwe wrote: >hello all, >how are chances for a p2p related side-meeting in seoul? >regards, >frank-uwe > >_______________________________________________ >P2prg mailing list >P2prg@irtf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg > > > > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 24 02:41:41 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA29134 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkIPp-0003dN-IS for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:41:13 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0O7fDZb013969 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:41:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkIPp-0003dE-3n for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:41:13 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA29104 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkIPl-0006mf-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:41:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkIOm-0006l4-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:40:09 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkINp-0006jY-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:39:09 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkINh-0003QT-Dp; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:39:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkIMz-0003JW-Gg for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:38:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA29015 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkIMv-0006hZ-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:38:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkILz-0006fL-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:37:15 -0500 Received: from mbx.unige.ch ([129.194.9.229]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkILX-0006de-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:36:47 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.mbx.unige.ch by mbx.unige.ch (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30787) id <0HRZ00M01H5ARO@mbx.unige.ch> for p2prg@irtf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:36:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from cui.unige.ch (244.145.62.81.dial.bluewin.ch [81.62.145.244]) by mbx.unige.ch (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30787) with ESMTPSA id <0HRZ00LSQH563U@mbx.unige.ch>; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:36:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:37:43 +0100 From: Michel Pawlak Subject: Re: [P2Prg] P2P RG subgroups In-reply-to: <200312062121.hB6LLIcx010248@poole.cs.umd.edu> To: Bobby Bhattacharjee Cc: p2prg@irtf.org Message-id: <401220C7.7080709@cui.unige.ch> Organization: University of Geneva MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 References: <200312062121.hB6LLIcx010248@poole.cs.umd.edu> X-Comment: This message was scanned against viruses by mbx.unige.ch. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT bobby@cs.umd.edu wrote: > Hello... > > Enclosed are the subgroups as we believe the emails to our list > reflect. If there are any errors, please send corrections and we'll > take care of them. Hi all, I'm personally interested in trust, rights and policy managment, mobile code, agents. As Jean-Henry ( https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/p2prg/current/msg00145.html ), I believe that the combination of these topics with P2P raise new interresting issues and challenges. Thus I would be happy to help in the security track. Michel Pawlak _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 15:15:41 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA25442 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alw5h-00037J-EC for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:15:13 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0SKFDQB011977 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:15:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alw5h-000376-9E for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:15:13 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA25401 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alw5g-0005UK-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:15:12 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alw4c-0005Ke-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:14:07 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alw3m-0005CV-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:13:14 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alw3W-0002AJ-V6; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:12:58 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alw3T-00029B-Eh for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:12:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA25017 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alw3S-0005A3-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:12:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alw2S-00053J-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.205]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alw27-0004xi-00 for p2prg@irtf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:11:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 8950 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2004 20:11:30 -0000 Received: from dsl027-158-074.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO GBLIME) ([216.27.158.74]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jan 2004 20:11:30 -0000 From: "Greg Bildson" To: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:13:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2Prg] LimeWire looking for great software developers Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, LimeWire has a few openings for high quality software developers. We are looking for the usual rare suspects with good OOA/OOD skills, Java experience, networking, threads, etc. LimeWire is one of the few successful Java and P2P software shops so the work tends to be interesting. All amazing developers and P2P enthusiasts (combined) are very welcome! See here for more information: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/careers.shtml Bonus points for anyone involved in limewire.org. Apologies if I am breaking list etiquette; however, the P2P world is so small that I'm sure some members of the list (or their talented friends or colleagues) might be interested. Thanks -greg _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 30 19:33:04 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA23188 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Amj3t-0004IB-OY for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:32:37 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0V0Wbb9016496 for p2prg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:32:37 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Amj3t-0004Hz-Ig for p2prg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:32:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA22694 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amj3r-0002ag-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:32:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Amj31-0002Tz-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amj2X-0002MA-00 for p2prg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:31:13 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Amj2M-0004Bx-N6; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:31:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Amj1z-0004Ag-I8 for p2prg@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:30:39 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA21135 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amj1x-0002Kb-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:30:37 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Amj10-0002Di-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:29:39 -0500 Received: from smtp1.att.ne.jp ([165.76.15.137]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amj0P-00026t-00 for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:29:02 -0500 Received: from neurogrid.com (h219-110-057-008.catv01.itscom.jp [219.110.57.8]) by smtp1.att.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0F515205 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:28:55 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <401AF69E.1090502@neurogrid.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:28:14 +0900 From: Sam Joseph Reply-To: sam@neurogrid.com Organization: NeuroGrid http://www.neurogrid.net/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja-JP; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2p-irtf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2Prg] P2PJ Call for Papers Sender: p2prg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------------------------------------------------------------------ CALL FOR PAPERS Peer-to-Peer Journal (http://p2pjournal.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Peer-to-Peer Journal (P2PJ) is a bi-monthly journal that serves as a forum to individuals and companies interested in applying, developing, educating, & advertising in the fields of Peer-to-Peer (P2P) and parallel computing. The P2P Journal is currently accepting submissions of articles, whitepapers, product reviews, discussions, and letters or short communications. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: Novel Peer-to-Peer applications and systems P2P simulation and network/traffic mapping/topology tools Instant Messaging (IM) Collaborative Computing FileSharing tools and protocols Content Distribution Networks (CDN) Parallel Computing Grid Networks Cluster Architectures For writer's guideline, see http://p2pjournal.com/main/p2p_writers_guideline.pdf Important Dates Submission Deadline for March Issue: 11th February 2004 Submission Deadline for May Issue: 11th April 2004 Please send submissions to editor@p2pjournal.com Best regards, Raymond F. Gao, Editor-in-Chief Daniel Brookshier, Editor Sam Joseph, Editor _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg