From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 12 13:21:11 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsORS-0000Oj-VC; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:21:10 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsORR-0000OZ-1e for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:21:09 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA17688 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsOte-0007MD-Ov for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:50:20 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (www.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with SMTP id j6CHISZe024479; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:18:28 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.pansonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by testing.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364211E81DF; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [150.169.1.201] (alpha.Research.Panasonic.COM [150.169.1.201])by redwood.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242EE1E81DD;Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42D3FB63.1050609@research.panasonic.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:18:27 -0400 From: Eunsoo Shim User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2prg@ietf.org, Henning Schulzrinne , Cullen Jennings Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=------------080803080802000709080001 X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:22 M:1 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9a2be21919e71dc6faef12b370c4ecf5 Cc: Subject: [P2Prg] [Fwd: [Sipping] P2P (for) SIP in Paris?] X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080803080802000709080001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, A number of people in the SIPPING WG are planning (or trying) to have a bar BOF on P2P (for) SIP during IETF63 in Paris as proposed by Henning. Please see the attached email. It is an open invitation in my understanding. Regards, Eunsoo --------------080803080802000709080001 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="[Sipping] P2P (for) SIP in Paris?" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="[Sipping] P2P (for) SIP in Paris?" Return-path: Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com (oak.Research.Panasonic.COM [150.169.1.4]) by pintlmail.MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJF0099160PJI@pintlmail.MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM>; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with SMTP id j6AG5C0x021095; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:05:12 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.pansonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by testing.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A421B1E81C1; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by redwood.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B550B1E81BE; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32)id 1DreGd-0000sw-Jw; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:02:55 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DreGb-0000sT-8Efor sipping@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:02:53 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA09520for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.8] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DreiN-0004VQ-J0for sipping@ietf.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:31:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.31] (pool-141-153-198-113.mad.east.verizon.net[141.153.198.113]) (user=hgs10 mech=PLAIN bits=0)by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j6AG2kw0012862(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT)for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:02:17 -0400 From: Henning Schulzrinne Subject: [Sipping] P2P (for) SIP in Paris? Sender: sipping-bounces@ietf.org To: sipping@ietf.org Errors-to: sipping-bounces@ietf.org Message-id: <42D14689.4090009@cs.columbia.edu> Organization: Columbia University MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: list X-BeenThere: sipping@ietf.org User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.8 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8ac499381112328dd60aea5b1ff596ea X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:22 M:1 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:2 M:2 S:3 R:1 (0.1500 0.3000) X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: List-Id: "SIPPING Working Group \(applications of SIP\)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There seem to be a number of on-going experimental efforts to look at P2P SIP. It might be useful to exchange notes and see where it makes sense to go next. Please let me know if you're interested in having an informal "bar BOF" at the Paris IETF. Henning _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP --------------080803080802000709080001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg --------------080803080802000709080001-- From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Sat Jul 16 18:11:16 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtusO-00073c-Np; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:11:16 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtusL-00073H-Pg for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:11:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA04971 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mr1.dcs.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.249.184]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DtvLR-0003zZ-UM for p2prg@ietf.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:41:18 -0400 Received: from ex1.ad.dcs.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.249.157]:10245) by mr1.dcs.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Dtus7-0008UN-IA; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:10:59 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:10:49 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Extension: 2nd ACM Workshop on Performance Evaluation of Wireless Ad Hoc, Sensor, and Ubiquitous Networks Thread-Index: AcWJCXxsyIng3U2zTcmDs7S4EOETKgBRKEKAAAD5ZKAAAAlUkAAAF0HgAAAqQ/A= From: "Mohamed Ould-Khaoua" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 789c141a303c09204b537a4078e2a63f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: mineo@cs.ucla.edu Subject: [P2Prg] Extension: 2nd ACM Workshop on Performance Evaluation of Wireless Ad Hoc, Sensor, and Ubiquitous Networks X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Due to numerous requests, the Submission deadline is extended to: July 22nd (Firm Deadline) [Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS 2nd ACM Workshop on Performance Evaluation of Wireless Ad Hoc, Sensor, and Ubiquitous Networks (PE-WASUN' 2005) http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~mohamed/wasun05/pe-wasun05.html To be held in conjunction with ACM/IEEE MSWiM'2005 http://www.cs.unibo.it/mswim2005/ Montreal, Qc. Canada, October 10-13, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Submission deadline: July 22nd, 2005 SCOPE: Wireless ad hoc, sensor, along with ubiquitous networks have recently witnessed their fastest growth period ever in history, and this trend is likely to continue for the foreseeable future. However, as such networks become increasingly complex, performance modelling and evaluation will=20 play a crucial part in their design process to ensure their successful deployment and exploitation in practice. This workshop will bring together scientists, engineers, and practitioners to share and exchange their experiences, discuss challenges, and report state-of-the-art and in-progress research on all aspects of wireless ad hoc, sensor, and ubiquitous networks with a specific emphasis on their performance evaluation and analysis. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: * Predictive performance models of ad hoc, sensor, and ubiquitous networks * Performance measurement and monitoring tools * Tracing and trace analysis * Simulation * Analytical modeling * Software tools for network performance and evaluation * Automatic performance analysis * Performance comparison * Performance of wireless and sensor devices * RF channel capacity modeling and analysis * Mobility modeling and management * Traffic models for ad hoc, sensor networks * Probabilistic models for ad hoc, sensor, and ubiquitous networks * Improvement in network performance through optimization and tuning * Evaluation of multimedia over wireless ad hoc networks. * Evaluation of QoS provisioning in ad hoc and sensor networks * Evaluation of pervasive and ubiquitous computing * Performance tools for ad hoc, sensor and ubiquitous networks. * Performance and security issues in ad hoc, sensor, and ubiquitous networks * Performance and power management control * Case studies demonstrating the role of performance evaluation in the design of ad hoc, sensor, and ubiquitous networks WORKSHOP CO-CHAIRS: Mohamed Ould-Khaoua University of Glasgow UK Mineo Takai University of California, Los Angeles USA PROGRAM COMMITTEE (IN PROGRESSS): K. Al-Begain, Univ. of Glamorgan (UK) I. Awan, Univ. of Bradford (UK) R. Battiti, Univ. of Trento (Italy) P. Bellavista, Universita' di Bologna (Italy) L. Bononi, Univ. of Bologna (Italy) A. Boukerche, Univ. of Ottawa (Canada) T. Calamoneri, Univ. of Rome "La Sapienza" (Italy) C.-C. Shen, Univeristy of Delaware (USA) M. Colajanni, Univ. of Modena (Italy) G. Cugola, Politecnico di Milano (Italy) V. Gianuzzi, Univ. of Genova (Italy) I. Guerin-Lassous, INRIA (France) H. Karatza, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki (Greece) S. V. Krishnamurthy, University of California, Riverside (USA) Z. Liu, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center (USA)=20 K. Mase, Niigata University (Japan)=20 G. Min, Univ. of Bradford (UK) J. Misic, Univ. Manitoba (Canada) M. Naimi, University of Cergy-Pontoise (France) S. Nikoletseas, Computer Technology Institute (Greece) I. Nikolaidis, Univ. of Alberta (Canada) M. S. M. Annoni Notare, Barddal Univ. (Brazil) S. Olariu, Old Dominion Univ. (USA) Y. Pan, Georgia State Univ. (USA) A. Passarella, Univ. of Cambridge (UK) R. Wakikawa, Keio University (Japan) V. R. Syrotiuk, Arizona State University (USA) N. Thomas, Univ if Newcastle (UK) C.K. Toh, Queen Mary University of London (UK) Y. Yang, State University of New York, Stony Brook (USA) J. Wu, Florida Atlantic Univ. (USA) K. Wu, Univ. of Victoria (Canada) S. Yoshida, Kyoto University (Japan) F. Zambonelli, University of Modena and Reggio Emilia (Italy) A. Zomaya, Univ. of Sydney (Australia) PUBLICITY CHAIR Mirela Sechi Moretti Annoni Notare Barddal University Florianopolis, SC Brazil PAPER SUBMISSION: Authors are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop.=20 The length of the papers should not exceed 10 single-spaced pages=20 (in two-column format) including figures and references on 8.5 by 11=20 inch paper using at least 11 point font. Papers should be submitted=20 electronically in PDF format (or postscript) by sending it as an e-mail=20 attachment to mohamed@dcs.gla.ac.uk or mineo@cs.ucla.edu. All papers will=20 be peer reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. Accepted papers will appear in the workshop proceedings and a special issue will be planned in a scholarly journal to include selected high-quality papers from the workshop. IMPRTANT DATES: * Submission Deadline: 22nd, July, 2005 * Author Notification: 20 August, 2005 * Final Manuscript Due: 30 August, 2005 _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 18 14:58:32 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Duaoy-0002jb-SD; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:58:32 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Duaov-0002j1-R7 for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:58:29 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05585 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.202]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DubIO-0004Vk-In for p2prg@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:28:57 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1352522rnf for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=r+B9lI1InsjcGd+g5XqFQ2s+epbexccsPTALDXEusSnUqkjrBHxgmob7JqQQC+9TbneyChDo/Tc+d1ectVcVFdY3IuQsddZpxxIvGwcmkwKX7ZfFpCBYBRCHDx22/ZwrkP0SzHBk1Ta464yLiRbC9+MMxSxmmOeP9XBc9jtSRfU= Received: by 10.38.209.15 with SMTP id h15mr2134003rng; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.73 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b2769930507181158730db2ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:58:24 -0700 From: "David A. Bryan" To: sipping@ietf.org, p2prg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: [P2Prg] New version of P2P SIP draft-bryan-sipping-p2p X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryan@ethernot.org List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Cullen Jennings and I have iterated our draft on P2P registration and resource location in SIP. Until it is available in the archive, you can take a look at www.p2psip.org for the latest version. Thanks, David Bryan --=20 David Bryan Please continue to send me email at the address bryan@ethernot.org _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 20 10:25:45 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DvFW5-00085F-BQ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:25:45 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Duz8a-0006RM-7a for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:56:24 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA24710 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200507192056.QAA24710@ietf.org> Received: from mail.pulver.com ([192.246.69.184]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuzcA-00033o-6z for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:27:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 19639 invoked by uid 510); 19 Jul 2005 17:40:54 -0400 Received: from henry@pulver.com by mail.pulver.com by uid 508 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.72. spamassassin: 2.63. 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Processed in 16.438577 secs Process 19205) Received: from unknown (HELO 1AB764895C324D3) (henry@pulver.com@67.187.120.26) by 192.246.69.184 with SMTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:40:34 +0000 From: "Henry Sinnreich" To: , , , Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:54:03 -0500 Organization: pulver.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <8b2769930507181158730db2ae@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcWL0QK4n2W1zLtARu2B4X0ClLOXjQAzfHvA X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Message-ID: <112180923783519205@mail.pulver.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:25:44 -0400 Cc: Subject: [P2Prg] RE: [Sipping] New version of P2P SIP draft-bryan-sipping-p2p X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: henry@pulver.com List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org The I-D http://www.p2psip.org/draft-bryan-sipping-p2p-01.html is an excellent addition to the topic of P2P SIP. If the IETF is going to make P2P SIP a work item, the alternate architectural options using Chord supernodes and hybrid systems as discussed in http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~kns10/publication/sip-p2p-short.pdf as well as other need to be discussed as well. See for example http://www.softarmor.com/wgdb/docs/draft-johnston-sipping-p2p-ipcom-00.html A 'beer BOF' on P2P SIP is being organized by Henning Schulzrinne at the 63 IETF. Is it not time to have P2P SIP as a work item of SIPPING? I will propose in a companion message to http://kevlar.softarmor.com/sipping/meets/ietf63/requests.html a 5 minute time slot on the SIPPING WG agenda to take a vote on this. Thanks, Henry -----Original Message----- From: sipping-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipping-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David A. Bryan Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:58 PM To: sipping@ietf.org; p2prg@ietf.org Cc: Cullen Jennings Subject: [Sipping] New version of P2P SIP draft-bryan-sipping-p2p Cullen Jennings and I have iterated our draft on P2P registration and resource location in SIP. Until it is available in the archive, you can take a look at www.p2psip.org for the latest version. Thanks, David Bryan -- David Bryan Please continue to send me email at the address bryan@ethernot.org _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jul 22 11:29:44 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DvzT6-0002Qm-Ri; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:29:44 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dvw6U-0001DF-Nm for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:54:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05555 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de ([132.187.3.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dvwah-0001qb-Vi for p2prg@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:25:25 -0400 Received: from wrzx30.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx30.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.30]) by wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D3E23DF; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from virusscan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wrzx30.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941C983829; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.28]) by wrzx30.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDC183897; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from europa.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wicx01.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.11.1]) by wrzx28.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CA0E23E0; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nero.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wi3x05.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.106.5]) by europa.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id j6MBrsq24762; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:53:54 +0200 Received: from musa (wi3d81.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.106.181]) by nero.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3217A6F58E; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:56:17 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kurt Tutschku" To: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:39:38 +0200 Organization: Uni Wuerzburg Message-ID: <005201c58eb2$0b07a360$b56abb84@musa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (Rechenzentrum Universitaet Wuerzburg) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93df555cbdbcdae9621e5b95d44b301e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:29:44 -0400 Cc: 'Li Li' , "'Andersen, Frank-Uwe'" , maria@csd.uoc.gr, maria@cs.unc.edu Subject: [P2Prg] CFP: IEEE 3rd International Workshop on Mobile Peer to Peer Computing MP2P 06, (conjunction with the 4th IEEE PerCom 06) X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tutschku@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org (Please apologize multiple copies) --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3rd IEEE International Workshop on Mobile Peer-to-Peer Computing (MP2P'06) http://www-info3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/mp2p2006 Pisa, Italy, March 17, 2006 In conjunction with the 4th IEEE International Conference on=20 Pervasive Computing and Communications (PerCom=9206) http://www.percom.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peer-to-Peer (P2P) computing is a networking and distributed computing=20 paradigm which allows the sharing of computing resources and services=20 by direct, symmetric interaction between computers. The advance in=20 mobile wireless communication technology and the increasing number of=20 mobile users, extend the arena of P2P computing to encompass mobile=20 devices and wireless networks. The special characteristics of mobile=20 environments, such as highly variable connectivity, disconnection,=20 location-dependency, resource contraints, and diversity in wireless=20 networks as well as carrier-grade performance requirements bring new=20 challenges for research in mobile P2P computing. MP2P=9206 is intended to serve as a continuing forum for scientists and=20 engineers in academia and industry to exchange and discuss their experiences,=20 new ideas, and research results about all aspects of mobile P2P computing.=20 It will address the challenges, technologies, and architectures leading=20 to real-world solutions that provide users with direct access and control=20 of their critical peer-based information and services, regardless of location=20 or device. The principal theme of MP2P=9206 is the development of protocols, systems and architectures of mobile P2P architectures and the evaluation of their performance.=20 Topics of particular interest include, but are not limited to: - Architecture and platforms for mobile P2P computing=20 - Measurement studies on mobile P2P systems - Performance of mobile P2P services - Resource and service discovery in mobile P2P computing - Resource exchange mechanisms in mobile P2P application - Mobile P2P over different kinds of bearer services: 2.5/3G (GPRS/UMTS) /=20 802.11 (WLAN) - Mobile P2P & operator/provider requirements - Reliability and carrier-gradeness of mobile P2P services - Mobile P2P & fixed P2P system interworking - Issues of combining P2P services with mobility (mobile IP / MANET)=20 - Peer access and control in mobile environment - Location dependent mobile P2P services - Data exchange and rendering techniques for mobile devices - Secure communication protocols for mobile P2P computing - Mobile P2P messaging systems - Peer-to-peer broadband wireless communications - Applications of mobile P2P - Nature-inspired algorithms for mobile P2P computing - Theoretical issues on mobile information diffusion - Mobile P2P video games - Stimulating cooperation in mobile computing Paper Submission:=20 ----------------- Papers must be written in English and should not exceed 6 pages in IEEE proceedings style. Authors MUST submit their papers through the EDAS web site (http://www.edas.info/) in three steps:=20 * Creation of a personal account on EDAS (if the author does not already have=20 one)=20 * Registration of the paper (requiring a short abstract of up to 150 words)=20 * Upload of the paper. Only in pdf format=20 Submission implies the willingness of at least one of the authors to register and present the paper. All submissions will be reviewed and selected based on their originality of the paper. Accepted papers must be presented at the workshop and will appear in a combined PerCom 2006 workshop proceedings published by IEEE Computer Society Press.=20 Authors that present a system in their paper are highly encouraged to demonstrate also the system in the demo session of the workshop. Important Dates: ---------------- Papers due: 5pm EST, September 15, 2005 Notification of acceptance November 15, 2005 Camera-ready papers due December, 2005 Organizing Committee, Program Co-chairs: ---------------------------------------- - Kurt Tutschku, Department of Distributed Systems, University of W=FCrzburg,=20 Germany. - Frank-Uwe Andersen, Siemens Communications, Berlin, Germany. - Li Li, Communications Research Center Canada, Canada.=20 - Maria Papadopouli, Department of Computer Science, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, USA=20 Steering Board -------------- - Jiannong Cao, Department of Computing, Hong Kong Polytechnic University. - Y. Charlie Hu, School of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Purdue=20 University=20 - Cecilia Mascolo, Department of Computer Science, University College London=20 - Maria Papadopouli, Department of Computer Science, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill=20 Publicity Chair --------------- Kurt Tutschku, Department of Distributed Systems, University of W=FCrzburg, Germany=20 Program Committee Members: -------------------------- - Frank-Uwe Andersen, Siemens Communications, Germany. - Christian Bettstetter, DoCoMo Euro-Labs,Germany. - Jiannong Cao, Department of Computing, Hong Kong Polytechnic University. - Luca Caviglione, CNIT - University of Genoa Research Unit, University of=20 Genova, Italy. - Geoff Coulson, Computing Department, University of Lancaster, UK. - Hermann de Meer, Department of Computer Networks & Computer Communications, =20 University of Passau, Germany. - Babak Esfandiari, Carleton University, Canada. - Stephen Hailes, Department of Computer Science, University College of London,=20 UK=20 - Felix Hernandez-Campos, Department of Computer Science, University of North=20 Carolina at Chapel Hill, USA=20 - Y. Charlie Hu, School of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Purdue=20 University=20 - Valerie Issarny, INRIA, France. - Wolfgang Kellerer, DoCoMo DoCoMo Communications Laboratories Europe, Germany. - Thomas Kunz, Dept. of Systems and Comp. Engineering, Carleton University.=20 Canada. - Li Li, Communications Research Center Canada, Canada. - Christoph Lindemann, FB Informatik IV, University of Dortmund , Germany. - Maria Papadopouli, Department of Computer Science, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill=20 - Rudolf Riedi, Department of Statistics, Rice University, USA=20 - Pablo Rodriguez, Microsoft Research Ltd, Cambridge, UK. - George Roussos, School of Computer Science and Information Systems, Birkbeck=20 College, University of London, UK=20 - Shervin Shirmohammadi, School of Information Technology and Engineering=20 (SITE), University of Ottawa, Canada. - Kurt Tutschku, Department of Distributed Systems, University of W=FCrzburg,=20 Germany=20 --- Dr. Kurt Tutschku, Assistant Professor University of Wuerzburg Department of Distributed Systems Institute of Computer Science Am Hubland 97074 Wuerzburg Germany Tel.: +49-931-8886641=20 FAX.: +49-931-8886632=20 mailto:tutschku@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de=20 or=20 mailto:kurttutschku@hotmail.com=20 http://www-info3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/staff/tutschku _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 25 13:22:40 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx6f2-0005gW-6u; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:22:40 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx6f0-0005gR-LB for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:22:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA08636 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx79q-0001xh-Ty for p2prg@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:54:34 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with SMTP id j6PHMIto009692; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:22:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (birch.research.pansonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by testing.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DCB0A1E817A; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:12:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BUFORDTABLET (dhcp107.Research.Panasonic.COM [150.169.1.107])by redwood.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E18AC1E817A;Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "John Buford" To: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:22:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:17 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68ba2b07ef271dba6ee42a93832cfa4c Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee Subject: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Dear P2PRG participants: Outside of IRTF there has been much activity in protocols for discovery of content, resources, and services. More recently we see more proposals for combining peer-to-peer mechanisms like DHT to address scalability issues in existing discovery protocols. Generally, some proposals address using p2p to evolve existing IETF services like DNS or SLP, and others address a general platform for discovery of any content, resource, or service. We believe that there remain open issues in this important area of p2p. The target is a wide-area p2p discovery protocol which combines scalability, security, trust, interoperability, and generality. Along these lines we have prepared a proposed P2PRG subgroup activity on "P2P Content, Resource, and Service Discovery", and appreciate Bobby's and other participant's feedback on an earlier draft. The description of the proposed subgroup activity follows. We look forward to discussing this activity further, on the email list and at the Paris meeting. Regards, John Buford ================================================================== P2P Content, Resource and Service Discovery (CORE) Subgroup P2PRG-IRTF Activity 1. Motivation and Scope Discovery of content, resources and services is a fundamental operation for peers in a peer-to-peer network. Many discovery mechanisms have been proposed. However existing designs have limitations in one or more areas of scalability, security, interoperability, or generality. The purpose of this subgroup activity is to define a research agenda within the P2PRG community to evaluate existing research, identify requirements, and develop solutions for wide-area peer-to-peer content, resource, and service discovery. We expect to address this goal in two dimensions: - An evolution of existing Internet server-based infrastructure such as DNS and SLP. Examples of recent research results that are starting points include DDNS and OSDA. - A general-purpose Internet mechanism on which various wide-area P2P applications can be constructed. Examples of research systems include INS/Twine and OpenDHT. We expect scalability, security, trust, interoperability, performance, and generality to be important requirements in the overall architecture. 2. Existing Discovery Methods Existing methods include client-server mechansisms (such as SLP), mechanisms integrated into device network adapters (such as Bluetooth SDP), mechanisms integrated in middleware platforms (such as Web services, Jini, and JXTA), and home network oriented solutions (UPnP SSDP). In addition there are experimental systems for service discovery such as SSDS and these extensions to SLP: WASRV, wide-area SLP, and mesh-enhanced SLP; and the use of wide-area multicast to advertise and discover services. Further there are various peer-to-peer systems and proposed designs, both unstructured and structured by which large numbers of peers share content and services. Typically large-scale unstructured peer-to-peer systems use limited scope flooding to reach other peers with requests, whereas structured peer-to-peer systems use a distributed hash table (DHT) to store key-value peers. Associated with such discovery mechanisms are related mechanisms for service/resource description, advertisement, notification, and service invocation. 3. Milestones - Problem statement. There may be separate problem statements for the Internet infrastructure case vs the application infrastructure - Survey of related work. Several surveys exist, but do not specifically address the two goals above. - Experimental plan. We envision development of a large scale testbed for experimenting with wide-area service discovery. We believe a collaborative testbed is a unique benefit of working in the IRTF versus other research contexts. The experimental plan will address the resources, requirements, and participants needed to launch this. - Experimental results. Dependent on level of participation of the P2PRG community, summary of experiments related to comparing designs and evaulating them with respect to functionality, scalability, performance, and scalability. 4. Liaisons Put in place relationships with relevant IETF WGs in application area and internet area (e.g., DNSEXT) as the experimental work progresses. 5. Initial Participants J. Buford E. Shim A. Kaplan M. Rahman B. Kumar K. Ross P. Frankl M. Kolberg V. Safonov S. Narayanan An html version of the proposal can be seen at www.cs.uml.edu/~buford/irtf-p2prg/core.html and there is a link there to a PDF version. _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 25 13:46:06 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx71i-00028a-3j; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:46:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx71g-00028V-P9 for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:46:04 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA10031 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx7WZ-0002hn-Gg for p2prg@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:18:00 -0400 Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095C6CC377B; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:45:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: OnI2pzifXZoC+0a1E8UmHacqjC+sgRep7hjH0Ag8MCpv 1122313549 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (adsl-67-124-116-104.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.124.116.104]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DF756F785; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:45:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7d89dfa5703012181be19709ee8d9696@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Yeager Subject: Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:45:48 -0700 To: "John Buford" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee , p2prg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hello John, This is an excellent proposal. Before we proceed further can you please give me the affiliations of the initial participants? How much we will discuss this topic at Paris is not clear and depends on the amount of time allocated to our meeting. I cannot imagine more than a few bullets on the proposal in any case, and I see no problem with including this effort in the P2P RG. Others may wish to modify its scope, goals, etc, and that also might be appropriate for discussion at Paris if time permits, and is certainly appropriate for the mailing list. Thanks, Bill Yeager On Jul 25, 2005, at 10:22 AM, John Buford wrote: > 5. Initial Participants > > J. Buford > E. Shim > A. Kaplan > M. Rahman > B. Kumar > K. Ross > P. Frankl > M. Kolberg > V. Safonov > S. Narayanan _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 25 14:29:44 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx7hw-0002SE-8S; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:29:44 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx7hu-0002S3-PN for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:29:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12733 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx8Cn-0003yf-A8 for p2prg@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:01:39 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (ftp.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.2] (may be forged)) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with SMTP id j6PITDad012321; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:29:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (birch.research.pansonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by testing.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D80051E817A; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BUFORDTABLET (dhcp107.Research.Panasonic.COM [150.169.1.107])by redwood.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AD181E817A;Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "John Buford" To: "Bill Yeager" Subject: RE: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:29:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-reply-to: <7d89dfa5703012181be19709ee8d9696@fastmail.fm> Importance: Normal X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:22 M:1 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 538aad3a3c4f01d8b6a6477ca4248793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee , p2prg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: Bill Yeager [mailto:byeager@fastmail.fm] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:46 PM To: John Buford Cc: p2prg@ietf.org; Bobby Bhattacharjee Subject: Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Hello John, This is an excellent proposal. [Hello Bill ... thanks] Before we proceed further can you please give me the affiliations of the initial participants? [see below. we are looking for additional participants] How much we will discuss this topic at Paris is not clear and depends on the amount of time allocated to our meeting. I cannot imagine more than a few bullets on the proposal in any case, and I see no problem with including this effort in the P2P RG. [great. the IETF schedule has 1.5 hour allotted to the RG on Monday 8/1] Others may wish to modify its scope, goals, etc, and that also might be appropriate for discussion at Paris if time permits, and is certainly appropriate for the mailing list. Thanks, Bill Yeager On Jul 25, 2005, at 10:22 AM, John Buford wrote: > 5. Initial Participants > > J. Buford PDNL (Panasonic Digital Networking Lab) > E. Shim PDNL > A. Kaplan PDNL > M. Rahman PDNL > B. Kumar PDNL > K. Ross Polytechnic U. > P. Frankl Polytechnic U. > M. Kolberg U. Stirling > V. Safonov St Petersburg State Univ > S. Narayanan PDNL _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 25 14:34:13 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx7mH-0003o1-Dw; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:13 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx7mG-0003nw-QC for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:12 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA13204 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx8HA-00048H-0K for p2prg@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:06:09 -0400 Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0292CC3654; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: km7UDFGmuC8lMK7rtCq5kC97ZonPMzMe/jQjfJJbBhXe 1122316445 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (adsl-67-124-116-104.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.124.116.104]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B4956F785; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:05 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <15f3210c7bbbafd8f8dccaee1a982542@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Yeager Subject: Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:34:05 -0700 To: "John Buford" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee , p2prg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hello John, This is being changed to a different day. That's why I've not announced the meeting to the general mailing list with an agenda. Thanks for the affiliation list. Hopefully, this will grow to include other companies' research labs too. That's very important. Bill On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:29 AM, John Buford wrote: > > [great. the IETF schedule has 1.5 hour allotted to the RG on Monday > 8/1] > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 25 14:47:09 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx7yn-000610-Gh; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:47:09 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dx7yl-00060v-FA for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:47:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA13766 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx8Te-0004QT-G3 for p2prg@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:19:03 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with SMTP id j6PIko3S012991; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:46:50 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.pansonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by testing.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A58D1E8213; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BUFORDTABLET (dhcp107.Research.Panasonic.COM [150.169.1.107])by redwood.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 406E51E817A;Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:37:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "John Buford" To: "Bill Yeager" Subject: RE: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource,service discovery Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:46:51 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-reply-to: <15f3210c7bbbafd8f8dccaee1a982542@fastmail.fm> Importance: Normal X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:16 M:2 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee , p2prg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: Bill Yeager [mailto:byeager@fastmail.fm] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:34 PM To: John Buford Cc: p2prg@ietf.org; Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee Subject: Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource,service discovery Hello John, This is being changed to a different day. That's why I've not announced the meeting to the general mailing list with an agenda. Thanks for the affiliation list. Hopefully, this will grow to include other companies' research labs too. That's very important. [ yes, good point. it may be of interest to the P2PRG that we are also partipating in another related activity - standardization of an API for service discovery in the Java community (JCP 259). Led by Siemens, with Nokia, Motorola, Sun, Cingular, Hutchinson, and Panasonic. so we are quite interested in building up broad participation in the subgroup, and look to leverage your and Bobby's leadership of the P2PRG to do this. we can discuss more F2F in Paris hopefully. John ] Bill On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:29 AM, John Buford wrote: > > [great. the IETF schedule has 1.5 hour allotted to the RG on Monday > 8/1] > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 26 10:28:11 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxQPj-0004Tj-3f; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:28:11 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxKJq-0004Bm-Vj for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:57:43 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA25490 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.16]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxKor-0001iC-24 for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:29:46 -0400 Received: from ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.117.152]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:57:36 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:57:29 +0200 Message-ID: <2CAE5634D52E194BA393187E0568E1AC139D3B@ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr> Thread-Topic: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Thread-Index: AcWRR4gfxM28D5tNQd2D2gEY4sFtTgAbv1gQ From: "LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2005 07:57:36.0815 (UTC) FILETIME=[B005F3F0:01C591B7] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:28:10 -0400 Cc: DEMERJIAN Jacques RD-CORE-CAE X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hello, The agenda given on the IETF web page schedules the P2Prg meeting on = Thursday 4th (not on Monday). Which date is the good one ? We would = prefer NOT on Thursday (as we want to attend the MANET meeting, = scheduled on Thursday)... Regarding the security aspects mentionned in the proposed activity, = would you consider that it does include the trust / (non)cooperation / = selfish aspects ? Regards Sylvie -----Message d'origine----- De : p2prg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-bounces@ietf.org] De la part = de Bill Yeager Envoy=E9 : lundi 25 juillet 2005 20:34 =C0 : John Buford Cc : Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee; p2prg@ietf.org Objet : Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource,service = discovery Hello John, This is being changed to a different day. That's why I've not announced = the meeting to the general mailing list with an agenda. Thanks for the affiliation list. Hopefully, this will grow to include = other companies' research labs too. That's very important. Bill On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:29 AM, John Buford wrote: > > [great. the IETF schedule has 1.5 hour allotted to the RG on Monday=20 > 8/1] > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 26 10:55:22 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxQq1-00031f-Te; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:55:21 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxQpz-0002zF-RJ for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:55:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25497 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxRL2-00078h-F2 for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:27:26 -0400 Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AD9CC3800; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:55:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: X2Tlqr07bdHyfnYD/eOhiiV61G6Tx//vAfrJmiJflv3m 1122389706 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (adsl-67-124-116-104.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.124.116.104]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21A31E1; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2CAE5634D52E194BA393187E0568E1AC139D3B@ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr> References: <2CAE5634D52E194BA393187E0568E1AC139D3B@ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0d93f4ba754a5aae0f9fd158b3b9e818@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Yeager Subject: Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:55:04 -0700 To: "LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: DEMERJIAN Jacques RD-CORE-CAE , p2prg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hello Sylvie, The good date is the final agenda meeting time on Thursday: 1400-1630 Afternoon Session I Room 341 IRTF p2prg Peer-to-Peer Research Group It's really difficult to make everyone happy in choosing these time slots, and I assure you that we did our very best. With respect to security research, it is wide-open to proposals like those you mention. Our group has not yet done any research in this area. Hope to see you next week, Bill On Jul 26, 2005, at 12:57 AM, LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE wrote: > Hello, > The agenda given on the IETF web page schedules the P2Prg meeting on > Thursday 4th (not on Monday). Which date is the good one ? We would > prefer NOT on Thursday (as we want to attend the MANET meeting, > scheduled on Thursday)... > Regarding the security aspects mentionned in the proposed activity, > would you consider that it does include the trust / (non)cooperation / > selfish aspects ? > Regards > Sylvie _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 26 11:06:52 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxR1A-0006sA-CR; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:52 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxR18-0006s5-Cz for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA26499 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxRWD-0007Ua-AF for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (www.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with SMTP id j6QF6dj7022924; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:39 -0400 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (birch.research.pansonic.com [150.169.3.2]) by testing.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE631E8235; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BUFORDTABLET (dhcp107.Research.Panasonic.COM [150.169.1.107])by redwood.research.panasonic.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A0FAE1E81C7;Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:57:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "John Buford" To: "LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE" , Subject: RE: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content,resource,service discovery Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-reply-to: <2CAE5634D52E194BA393187E0568E1AC139D3B@ftrdmel1.rd.francetelec om.fr> Importance: Normal X-imss-version: 2.8 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:16 M:0 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 92df29fa99cf13e554b84c8374345c17 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: DEMERJIAN Jacques RD-CORE-CAE X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Yes, trust mechanisms are an important element to include, although there are also proposals of how p2p system might continue to operate even in the presence of malicious peers. P2P security considerations documented in several papers include sybil attack, collusion, attacks on routing, etc., plus traditional security issues like denial of service. John -----Original Message----- From: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:57 AM To: p2prg@ietf.org Cc: DEMERJIAN Jacques RD-CORE-CAE Subject: RE: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content,resource,service discovery Hello, The agenda given on the IETF web page schedules the P2Prg meeting on Thursday 4th (not on Monday). Which date is the good one ? We would prefe= r NOT on Thursday (as we want to attend the MANET meeting, scheduled on Thursday)... Regarding the security aspects mentionned in the proposed activity, would you consider that it does include the trust / (non)cooperation / selfish aspects ? Regards Sylvie -----Message d'origine----- De : p2prg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Bill Yeager Envoy=E9 : lundi 25 juillet 2005 20:34 =C0 : John Buford Cc : Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee; p2prg@ietf.org Objet : Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource,service discovery Hello John, This is being changed to a different day. That's why I've not announced t= he meeting to the general mailing list with an agenda. Thanks for the affiliation list. Hopefully, this will grow to include oth= er companies' research labs too. That's very important. Bill On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:29 AM, John Buford wrote: > > [great. the IETF schedule has 1.5 hour allotted to the RG on Monday > 8/1] > _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 26 11:26:46 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxRKQ-0003f1-UN; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:26:46 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxRKP-0003er-6n for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:26:45 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA27718 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg --===============1661240580==-- From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 26 11:58:48 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxRpQ-0003k8-46; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:58:48 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxRpO-0003fa-5p for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:58:46 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA00591 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxSKS-0000sV-1V for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:30:53 -0400 Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4823CC394F; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:58:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: cey+eRxHmxDXfQGDxzprswWJCerzb5EK4Scmb2YlECUh 1122393520 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (adsl-67-124-116-104.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.124.116.104]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEEB1E9; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7c557247be3fe4e2775c47b26c6d22e5@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Yeager Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:58:39 -0700 To: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bobby Bhattacharjee Subject: [P2Prg] Our online bibiography X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hello, Bobby has put together an online bibliography, and with respect to Sylvie's question on security, there is a good list of papers there. The current version is at http://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/p2prg/bib/ I don't recall the update procedure but bobby can help out here. Best regards, Bill _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 26 15:59:36 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxVaS-0002ox-L5; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:59:36 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxVaR-0002o8-FE for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:59:35 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA19549 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from endo.onionnetworks.com ([216.65.116.22] helo=sm1255.hostcentric.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxW5X-0000Ii-PB for p2prg@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:31:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 22928 invoked by uid 107); 26 Jul 2005 19:37:10 -0000 Received: from c-24-118-51-232.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (justin@onionnetworks.com@24.118.51.232) by endo.onionnetworks.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 26 Jul 2005 19:37:10 -0000 Subject: RE: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource, service discovery From: Justin Chapweske To: LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE In-Reply-To: <2CAE5634D52E194BA393187E0568E1AC139D3B@ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr> References: <2CAE5634D52E194BA393187E0568E1AC139D3B@ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:55:22 -0500 Message-Id: <1122407722.14147.1655.camel@bog> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 (2.0.3-0.mozer.1) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id PAA19549 Cc: DEMERJIAN Jacques RD-CORE-CAE , p2prg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org I'd like to recommend that the group look at URI resolution services as the foundation for P2P resource discovery. Swarmcast is almost entirely based on the concepts of RFC 2483 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2483.html) with some additional features made available in HTTP headers along the lines of our (outdated) Content-Addressable Web specification (http://open-content.net/specs/draft-jchapweske-caw-03.html). Thanks, -Justin On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 09:57 +0200, LANIEPCE Sylvie RD-CORE-CAE wrote: > Hello, > The agenda given on the IETF web page schedules the P2Prg meeting on Th= ursday 4th (not on Monday). Which date is the good one ? We would prefer = NOT on Thursday (as we want to attend the MANET meeting, scheduled on Thu= rsday)... > Regarding the security aspects mentionned in the proposed activity, wou= ld you consider that it does include the trust / (non)cooperation / selfi= sh aspects ? > Regards > Sylvie >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : p2prg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2prg-bounces@ietf.org] De la part = de Bill Yeager > Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 25 juillet 2005 20:34 > =C3=80 : John Buford > Cc : Bobby Samrat Bhattacharjee; p2prg@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [P2Prg] proposed activity - P2P content, resource,service d= iscovery >=20 > Hello John, >=20 > This is being changed to a different day. That's why I've not announced= the meeting to the general mailing list with an agenda. >=20 > Thanks for the affiliation list. Hopefully, this will grow to include o= ther companies' research labs too. That's very important. >=20 > Bill >=20 > On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:29 AM, John Buford wrote: >=20 > > > > [great. the IETF schedule has 1.5 hour allotted to the RG on Monday=20 > > 8/1] > > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > P2prg mailing list > P2prg@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg >=20 > _______________________________________________ > P2prg mailing list > P2prg@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg --=20 Justin Chapweske _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 27 07:40:01 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxkGX-0002Iq-6t; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:40:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxkGV-0002Gy-Ds for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:39:59 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA19132 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk ([128.16.5.31]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dxklj-0001Wf-VX for p2prg@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:12:17 -0400 Received: from 82-45-242-207.cable.ubr06.dals.blueyonder.co.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with UK SMTP id ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:39:30 +0100 Message-ID: <42E77327.40501@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:42:31 +0100 From: Michael Rogers User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050602) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Our online bibiography References: <7c557247be3fe4e2775c47b26c6d22e5@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <7c557247be3fe4e2775c47b26c6d22e5@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I'm also maintaining an online P2P/anonymity bibliography: http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/mrogers/bibliography.html Cheers, Michael Bill Yeager wrote: > Hello, > > Bobby has put together an online bibliography, and with respect to > Sylvie's question on security, there is a good list of papers there. > The current version is at > > http://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/p2prg/bib/ > > I don't recall the update procedure but bobby can help out here. > > Best regards, > > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > P2prg mailing list > P2prg@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 27 11:34:26 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxnvO-0004Jj-07; 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <123dfb22621ee57c8d20600637de2d2b@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Yeager Subject: Re: [P2Prg] Our online bibiography Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:34:09 -0700 To: Michael Rogers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hi MIchael, Thanks very much for this additional pointer. We need to look into creating links to these from our web-site. It's too easy to lose the email. Best regards, Bill On Jul 27, 2005, at 4:42 AM, Michael Rogers wrote: > Hi, > > I'm also maintaining an online P2P/anonymity bibliography: > > http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/mrogers/bibliography.html > > Cheers, > Michael _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 28 01:48:46 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dy1GA-000355-9Q; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:48:46 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dy1G8-000343-7D for p2prg@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:48:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA06191 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dy1lW-0008D1-Hn for p2prg@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:21:11 -0400 Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71219CC5791 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:48:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: BjHPdKJzJ3HBkG/uh38BPmkV6E7alJcLJdf+p2+9vceF 1122529720 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (adsl-67-124-116-104.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.124.116.104]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373BC1DC for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: "'p2prg@ietf.org'" From: Bill Yeager Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:48:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2Prg] Paris meeting X-BeenThere: p2prg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: p2prg-bounces@ietf.org Hello, Our RG meeting is Thursday, August the 4th from 1400 to 1630 in room 341. Below is what we will be doing. It looks like there will be ample time for open discussion since my presentation will be less than one hour: A. A presentation by co-chair Bill Yeager covering the following: o A short history of this Research Group o The P2P Research Group Charter o What the Research Group has accomplished so far o The current mailing lists organization and its possible reorganization o Two new research proposals: 1) IPv6 as applicable to P2P virtualizations 2) Resource Discovery in P2P Networks o Addressing the question of sort of research results should be standardized in the IETF B. Open discussion on the above presentation and other topics of interest. Bill _______________________________________________ P2prg mailing list P2prg@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg