From sprevidi@cisco.com Mon Feb 7 05:38:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96E3A6E08 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:38:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JhfKlek1kn0H for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A008D3A6E06 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:38:30 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p17DcTtQ006132; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:38:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from dhcp-rom2-144-254-189-105.cisco.com (dhcp-rom2-144-254-189-105.cisco.com [144.254.189.105]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p17DcRMZ012802; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:38:27 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <9C1A8295-0338-4341-8217-D5DEC266D2BB@cisco.com> From: stefano previdi To: p2prg@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:38:26 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: [p2prg] p2prg meeting in Prague X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:38:31 -0000 Folks, as you know, in a few weeks we will have IETF-80 meeting in Prague (3/27-4/1) and we're planning to have P2PRG meeting so it's time to work out the agenda. Please come back to us asap if you'd like to have a slot. Thanks. Stefano & Volker From panda@hongo.wide.ad.jp Thu Feb 24 16:20:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E35D3A635F for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:20:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cxLS1QjKLE4x for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hongo.wide.ad.jp (mail.hongo.wide.ad.jp [IPv6:2001:200:0:1cd1::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F38B3A68AE for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.78.6] (tc.b.scyphus.co.jp [219.117.248.118]) by mail.hongo.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80EBB128F36; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:20:51 +0900 (JST) From: Hirochika Asai Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:20:50 +0900 Message-Id: To: p2prg@irtf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [p2prg] Updated our draft: draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay-01 X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:20:04 -0000 Dear P2P RG folks, We thank you to have given us a presentation slot valuable comments at = IETF 78 in Maastricht.=20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay-01 We have worked on updating our work according to these comments and we = updated our I-D on December. The main change in this I-D is Section 3. This = section evaluates the impact of cross-domain traffic engineering in = application-layer traffic. The results show that the cross-domain cooperation contributes = the transit traffic reduction in upload traffic that may not cost for some = ISPs if the charging policy is based on maximum volume of incoming and = outgoing traffic because incoming traffic is usually higher for customer ISPs. = Moreover, these results also show that the transit traffic reduction in download = traffic that costs for customer ISPs is difficult, i.e., transit traffic from = providers is quite high in Table 2. However, the cooperative algorithm = outperformed other algorithms. Now we are investigating the impact with other dataset. We would = appreciate your comments on this I-D if you have any. Best regards, Hirochika Asai --=20 Hirochika Asai , The University of Tokyo From zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com Mon Feb 28 02:58:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35C93A68EC for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:58:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -95.686 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.090, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RELAY_IS_221=2.222, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Mu-0WL2+ksT for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hqmta.chinamobile.com (hqmta.chinamobile.com [221.130.253.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179CC3A6B10 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hqmta.chinamobile.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.imsstest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0388920FF8; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:59:35 +0800 (CST) Received: from mail.chinamobile.com (unknown [10.1.28.22]) by hqmta.chinamobile.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05DD20FDD; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:59:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from zyf-PC ([10.2.2.39]) by mail.chinamobile.com (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.6) with ESMTP id 2011022818593275-29553 ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:59:32 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:59:30 +0800 From: "zhangyunfei" To: "p2prg" Message-ID: <201102281859303056655@chinamobile.com> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 2, 103, 20 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on jtgsml01/servers/cmcc(Release 6.5.6|March 06, 2007) at 2011-02-28 18:59:32, Serialize by Router on jtgsml01/servers/cmcc(Release 6.5.6|March 06, 2007) at 2011-02-28 18:59:34, Serialize complete at 2011-02-28 18:59:34 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====003_Dragon428604762720_=====" X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.0.0.8231-6.5.0.1024-17982.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--6.213-7.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--6.213-7.0-31-10;No--6.213-5.0-31-10 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No Cc: "volker.hilt" Subject: [p2prg] p2p streaming survey draft X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:58:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=====003_Dragon428604762720_===== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Hi folks, We are happy to know that P2PRG is going to launch discussion on the survey of research progress of P2P streaming. I guess the PPSP WG draft:draft-ietf-ppsp-survey may be a starting point to this work. Any comments and suggestions are appreciated. BR Yunfei zhangyunfei 2011-02-28 --=====003_Dragon428604762720_===== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312"
Hi folks,
   We are happy to know that P2PRG is going to launch discussion on the survey of research progress of P2P streaming. 
   I guess the PPSP WG draft:draft-ietf-ppsp-survey may be a starting point to this work. Any comments and suggestions are appreciated.
 
BR
Yunfei
zhangyunfei
2011-02-28
 --=====003_Dragon428604762720_=====-- From volker.hilt@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Feb 28 06:13:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C041C3A6AF9 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X6znh7Xn1xZs for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836CE3A69AF for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.9]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p1SEEjBx019300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:14:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.111]) by usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p1SEEjA5005379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:14:45 -0600 Received: from [135.244.23.226] (135.3.63.241) by USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (135.3.39.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.106.1; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:14:45 -0600 Message-ID: <4D6BADD3.4020804@bell-labs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:14:43 -0500 From: Volker Hilt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2prg@irtf.org" References: <201102281859303056655@chinamobile.com> In-Reply-To: <201102281859303056655@chinamobile.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.9 Subject: Re: [p2prg] p2p streaming survey draft X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:13:45 -0000 Folks, the PPSP WG has started to work on a survey of P2P streaming technologies (please see the draft Yunfei has sent to this list). The PPSP WG would be very interested in collaborating with this RG to expand the draft (or develop an additional draft) that provides a survey over the state of the art in research on P2P streaming. We are looking for volunteers who would be interested in developing such a draft in collaboration with the PPSP WG. This is a great opportunity to develop a draft that will help the PPSP community and inform standards development. Please send me a quick email if you are interested. As indicated by Yunfei, all comments on the draft-ietf-ppsp-survey draft are highly appreciated! Please send your comments to the list. Thanks! Volker On 2/28/2011 5:59 AM, zhangyunfei wrote: > Hi folks, > We are happy to know that P2PRG is going to launch discussion on the > survey of research progress of P2P streaming. > I guess the PPSP WG draft:draft-ietf-ppsp-survey may be a starting point > to this work. Any comments and suggestions are appreciated. > BR > Yunfei > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > zhangyunfei > 2011-02-28 From volker.hilt@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Feb 28 06:28:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C703A6940 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:28:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svKTzCcQy1j2 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AF73A69CC for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.12]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p1SERHma025751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:29:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.111]) by usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p1SEGEZd017339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:16:14 -0600 Received: from [135.244.23.226] (135.3.63.241) by USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (135.3.39.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.106.1; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:16:14 -0600 Message-ID: <4D6BAE2C.5040900@bell-labs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:16:12 -0500 From: Volker Hilt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2prg@irtf.org" References: <201102281859303056655@chinamobile.com> In-Reply-To: <201102281859303056655@chinamobile.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.12 Subject: Re: [p2prg] p2p streaming survey draft X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:28:36 -0000 Yunfei, can you send a pointer to the draft to this list? Thanks, Volker On 2/28/2011 5:59 AM, zhangyunfei wrote: > Hi folks, > We are happy to know that P2PRG is going to launch discussion on the > survey of research progress of P2P streaming. > I guess the PPSP WG draft:draft-ietf-ppsp-survey may be a starting point > to this work. Any comments and suggestions are appreciated. > BR > Yunfei > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > zhangyunfei > 2011-02-28 From zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com Mon Feb 28 17:43:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F083A6C4C for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -93.662 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-93.662 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.089, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RELAY_IS_221=2.222, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bLRrfwvGLwzg for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hqmta.chinamobile.com (hqmta.chinamobile.com 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19:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so4422718vxc.13 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.161.225 with SMTP id xv1mr3044124vdb.292.1298950670206; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:37:50 -0800 (PST) From: Omer Luzzatti References: <201102281859303056655@chinamobile.com> <4D6BAE2C.5040900@bell-labs.com> <201103010942492379250@chinamobile.com> In-Reply-To: <201103010942492379250@chinamobile.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvXskdEyeS4yLDFQXaOkdcTtd3saQADx+aA Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 05:38:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: zhangyunfei , Volker Hilt , p2prg@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f98614747c8049d6385dd Subject: Re: [p2prg] p2p streaming survey draft X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:36:55 -0000 --bcaec53f98614747c8049d6385dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As for the =A1=AEtree=A1=AF vs. =A1=AEmesh=A1=AF: note that regardless of t= he topology, the flow of a specific data-chunk is never circular, which means it propagates as a directed acyclic graph (a tree). So I assume the difference is only =A1=AEin time=A1=AF.. meaning that in a = pure =A1=AEtree-based=A1=AF solution, consecutive data-chunks tend to repeat the= same paths, while in an ideal =A1=AEmesh-based=A1=AF solution the paths of each = data chunk are determined individually according to dynamically evaluated parameters. *From:* p2prg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:p2prg-bounces@irtf.org] *On Behalf O= f *zhangyunfei *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:43 AM *To:* Volker Hilt; p2prg@irtf.org *Subject:* Re: [p2prg] p2p streaming survey draft Hi all, You can find the draft in the following link: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-survey/. Thanks for your interest. BR Yunfei ------------------------------ zhangyunfei 2011-03-01 ------------------------------ *=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA* Volker Hilt *=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA* 2011-02-28 22:29:42 *=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA* p2prg@irtf.org *=B3=AD=CB=CD=A3=BA* *=D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA* Re: [p2prg] p2p streaming survey draft Yunfei, can you send a pointer to the draft to this list? Thanks, Volker On 2/28/2011 5:59 AM, zhangyunfei wrote: > Hi folks, > We are happy to know that P2PRG is going to launch discussion on the > survey of research progress of P2P streaming. > I guess the PPSP WG draft:draft-ietf-ppsp-survey may be a starting point > to this work. Any comments and suggestions are appreciated. > BR > Yunfei > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > zhangyunfei > 2011-02-28 _______________________________________________ p2prg mailing list p2prg@irtf.org http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg --bcaec53f98614747c8049d6385dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As for the &lsqu= o;tree’ vs. ‘mesh’: note that regardl= ess of the topology, the flow of a specific data-chunk is never circular, w= hich means it propagates as a directed acyclic graph (a tree).

 

So I assume the difference is only ‘in time’.. mea= ning that in a pure ‘tree-based’ solution, consecutive data-chu= nks tend to repeat the same paths, while in an ideal ‘mesh-based&rsqu= o; solution the paths of each data chunk are determined individually accord= ing to dynamically evaluated parameters.

 

 

 

From: p2prg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:p2prg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of zhangyunfei=
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:43 AM
To: Volker Hilt; p2prg@irtf.org
Subject: Re: [p= 2prg] p2p streaming survey draft

 

Hi all,

=    You can find the draft in the followin= g link:= http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-survey/. Thanks for you= r interest.

=  

=

BR

= Yunfei

=  

=

zhangyunfei

= 2011-03-01

=B7=A2= =BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA Volker Hilt

= = =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA 2011-02-28 = ;22:29:42=

= = =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA p2prg@irtf.org

= = =B3=AD=CB=CD=A3=BA

= = =D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA Re: [p2prg] p2p streaming s= urvey draft

=  

=

<= span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-s= erif"">Yunfei,

=  

can  you  send  a  pointer  to  = the  draft  to  this  list?

 

Thanks,

=  

Volker

 

= On  2/28/2011  5:59  AM,  zhangyunfei &nbs= p;wrote:

>  Hi  folks,

>  We  are  happy  to  know  = that  P2PRG  is  going  to  launch  discussio= n  on  the  

>  survey  of  research  progress  = ;of  P2P  streaming.

>  I  guess  the  PPSP  WG  d= raft:draft-ietf-ppsp-survey  may  be  a  starting  = ;point  

>  to  this  work.  Any  comments =  and  suggestions  are  appreciated.

>  BR

>  Yunfei<= /p>

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= >  zhangyunfei

>  2011-02-28

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