From sprevidi@cisco.com Wed Jul 20 07:41:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6274921F86C1 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:41:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38tXtpv0kKTn for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B055E21F86C0 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6KEbx1I019872 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:37:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.62.101] (dhcp-10-55-91-104.cisco.com [10.55.91.104]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6KEbvnb025976; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:37:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: stefano previdi To: p2prg@irtf.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:37:48 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: Re: [p2prg] P2PRG Meeting in Quebec City (IETF81) X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:41:46 -0000 All, the P2PRG meting is (currently) scheduled on tuesday morning from 9am to 11:30am and the agenda is published here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/81/agenda/P2PRG.txt See you in Quebec City. Stefano & Volker. From moritz@bell-labs.com Tue Jul 26 11:13:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF495E8002 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:13:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TRTN+wstlCrv for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03015E8005 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usnavsmail2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.10]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p6QIDLqb008436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:13:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.110]) by usnavsmail2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p6QIDKck004856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:13:21 -0500 Received: from USNAVSXCHMBSB1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.136]) by USNAVSXCHHUB01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.110]) with mapi; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:13:20 -0500 From: "Steiner, Moritz (Moritz)" To: "p2prg@irtf.org" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:13:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: dht traffic localization Thread-Index: AQHMS7+yvu9T9J+qSEKUD2YIewJ+KA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE, en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D459355DBF53FE459E226F25A182C5591C54411EUSNAVSXCHMBSB1n_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.10 Subject: [p2prg] dht traffic localization X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:13:25 -0000 --_000_D459355DBF53FE459E226F25A182C5591C54411EUSNAVSXCHMBSB1n_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, following the interesting discussion we had during and after the session to= day you might be interested in having a look at a paper we published recent= ly. Best Moritz Traffic Localization for DHT-based BitTorrent networks Matteo Varvello and Moritz Steiner In Proceedings of IFIP/TC6 Networking, Valencia, Spain, May 2011 http://www.springerlink.com/index/N3230H80N1160407.pdf or http://www.moritzsteiner.de/papers/dht_traffic_localization.pdf --_000_D459355DBF53FE459E226F25A182C5591C54411EUSNAVSXCHMBSB1n_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

following the interesting discussion we h= ad during and after the session today you might be interested in havin= g a look at a paper we published recently.

 

Best

Moritz

 



Traffic Localization for DHT-based BitTorrent networks
Matteo Varvello and Moritz Steiner

In Proceedings of IFIP/TC6 Networking, Valencia, Spain, May 2011

 

http:= //www.springerlink.com/index/N3230H80N1160407.pdf

or

http://www.moritzsteiner.de/papers/dht_traffic_localization.pdf

 

 

--_000_D459355DBF53FE459E226F25A182C5591C54411EUSNAVSXCHMBSB1n_-- From sprevidi@cisco.com Wed Jul 27 07:18:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6595611E8086 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hG5DsABQlxCL for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A234211E807A for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6REIgxA018523 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-10dd.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-10-55-83-250.cisco.com [10.55.83.250]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6REIfxA020914 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: stefano previdi To: p2prg@irtf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:18:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: [p2prg] Meeting Material X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:18:46 -0000 slides and notes have been uploaded here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/81/materials.html s. From sprevidi@cisco.com Wed Jul 27 07:20:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949A621F84BC for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:20:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PVm9x-Bud9p9 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FE921F86A2 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:20:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6REKZUV018742 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:20:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-10dd.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-10-55-83-250.cisco.com [10.55.83.250]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6REKUoC022246; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:20:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: stefano previdi To: p2prg@irtf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:20:29 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Volker Hilt , Russ White Subject: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:20:48 -0000 As stated during the meeting, we're setting up a small group of people willing to conduct the review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay. We already have to volunteers (thanks Piotr and Russ). Anyone else willing yo join the team is more than welcome. s. From moritz@bell-labs.com Wed Jul 27 11:50:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D9911E815A for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:50:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gzq9yqFsA0Pq for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6462A11E814E for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.12]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p6RIoDwk025069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:50:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.110]) by usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p6RIoDQA026294 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:50:13 -0500 Received: from USNAVSXCHMBSB1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.136]) by USNAVSXCHHUB01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.110]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:50:13 -0500 From: "Steiner, Moritz (Moritz)" To: stefano previdi , "p2prg@irtf.org" Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0500 Thread-Topic: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay Thread-Index: AcxMaGtqQKEa1Q3KRcqBFiTM1hVSyAAJZB6a Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.12 Cc: "Hilt, Volker \(Volker\)" , Russ White Subject: Re: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:50:18 -0000 cout me in, too. Moritz ________________________________________ Von: p2prg-bounces@irtf.org [p2prg-bounces@irtf.org] im Auftrag von stefano= previdi [sprevidi@cisco.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 10:20 An: p2prg@irtf.org Cc: Hilt, Volker (Volker); Russ White Betreff: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay As stated during the meeting, we're setting up a small group of people willing to conduct the review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay. We already have to volunteers (thanks Piotr and Russ). Anyone else willing yo join the team is more than welcome. s. _______________________________________________ p2prg mailing list p2prg@irtf.org http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg= From volker.hilt@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Jul 27 13:59:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46EE11E80C8 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:59:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.350, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvB0JW-MGl-s for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6352C11E8082 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.9]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p6RKxhQG023698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:59:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB03.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub03.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.112]) by usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p6RKxb4Z030236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:59:43 -0500 Received: from [135.244.144.94] (135.3.63.241) by USNAVSXCHHUB03.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (135.3.39.112) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.137.0; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4E307CCC.9060907@bell-labs.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:02:04 -0400 From: Volker Hilt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steiner, Moritz (Moritz)" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.9 Cc: "p2prg@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:59:44 -0000 Great, thanks! Volker On 7/27/2011 2:49 PM, Steiner, Moritz (Moritz) wrote: > cout me in, too. > > Moritz > > > ________________________________________ > Von: p2prg-bounces@irtf.org [p2prg-bounces@irtf.org] im Auftrag von stefano previdi [sprevidi@cisco.com] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 10:20 > An: p2prg@irtf.org > Cc: Hilt, Volker (Volker); Russ White > Betreff: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay > > As stated during the meeting, we're setting up a small group of > people willing to conduct the review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay. > We already have to volunteers (thanks Piotr and Russ). Anyone else > willing yo join the team is more than welcome. > > > s. > _______________________________________________ > p2prg mailing list > p2prg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From moritz@bell-labs.com Fri Jul 29 09:07:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4248B21F8793 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id juoofcgDWpKS for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8859021F876F for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.9]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p6TG7Hah021372 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.110]) by usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id p6TG7Gtm010015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:07:17 -0500 Received: from USNAVSXCHMBSB1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.136]) by USNAVSXCHHUB01.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.110]) with mapi; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:07:16 -0500 From: "Steiner, Moritz (Moritz)" To: "p2prg@irtf.org" Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:06:00 -0500 Thread-Topic: AW: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay Thread-Index: AcxMoBn5PSG7FyGcTrqJFbuXkn+QaQBaI7ng Message-ID: References: <4E307CCC.9060907@bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <4E307CCC.9060907@bell-labs.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.9 Subject: Re: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:07:19 -0000 Dear Hirochika, Hiroshi, Tsuyoshi, I accepted to review your draft as requested by the chairs during the sessi= on on Tuesday. I didn't follow the history of the draft before and it was q= uite difficult for me to get the big picture. Most important in my opinion = is a more detailed discussion of the simulations results.=20 Best Moritz Detailed comments: - The draft is very hard to read. I suggest to find some native speaker to = help with the writing. =20 - abstract:=20 * "costs more" than what?=20 * The approach and the simulations results...-> the simulations results.= .. * defines a solutions approach -> presents a solution * with hiding -> while hiding =09 - intro:=20 * generally expensive -> generally more expensive * "costs more" compared to what? * "global cost map" needs to be defined here, if not already in the abst= ract. =09 - simulation results: * a description of the traces is necessary. number of peers, AS distribu= tion, etc... * why is the list of peers taken every minute? They announce themselves = to the tracker only every 15 minutes. Does it make sense to have higher res= olution?=20 * "These results also indicate ... worked quite well. " What is this sup= posed to mean? More detailed analysis needed.=20 * Looking at Table 2 it seems that for download traffic all the overhead= for alto and the computation of the cost map does not bring great improvem= ents. The numbers "AS hops" and "cooperative" are almost identical. This is= addressed by one single sentence only. * Table 3: why is the amount sent to peering partners so low for "gentle= " and "cooperative". Can you give some intuition? why are the numbers of "= cooperative" so close to "gentle" and so different from "selfish"? Shouldn'= t it be more in the middle between the two extremes? =09 =09 =09 -----Original Message----- From: Hilt, Volker (Volker)=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:02 PM To: Steiner, Moritz (Moritz) Cc: p2prg@irtf.org Subject: Re: AW: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay Great, thanks! Volker On 7/27/2011 2:49 PM, Steiner, Moritz (Moritz) wrote: > cout me in, too. > > Moritz > > > ________________________________________ > Von: p2prg-bounces@irtf.org [p2prg-bounces@irtf.org] im Auftrag von stefa= no previdi [sprevidi@cisco.com] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 10:20 > An: p2prg@irtf.org > Cc: Hilt, Volker (Volker); Russ White > Betreff: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay > > As stated during the meeting, we're setting up a small group of > people willing to conduct the review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay. > We already have to volunteers (thanks Piotr and Russ). Anyone else > willing yo join the team is more than welcome. > > > s. > _______________________________________________ > p2prg mailing list > p2prg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg From panda@hongo.wide.ad.jp Sat Jul 30 06:00:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2prg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA8721F8A7A for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.208 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.208 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=1.908, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G1FLQTvry9ix for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hongo.wide.ad.jp (mail.hongo.wide.ad.jp [203.178.135.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB6621F8A71 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [223.25.149.155] (g1-223-25-149-155.bmobile.ne.jp [223.25.149.155]) by mail.hongo.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB829108E89E; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:59:31 +0900 (JST) References: <4E307CCC.9060907@bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8L1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8L1) From: Hirochika Asai Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:59:31 -0400 To: "Steiner, Moritz (Moritz)" Cc: "p2prg@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay X-BeenThere: p2prg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:00:04 -0000 Dear Moritz, Thank you for reviewing our draft. I'm on the way home from Quebec, so I will read and discuss your review comm= ents among authors soon after coming back safely. Then we will send reply co= mments to you and the list. Best regards, Hirochika --=20 Hirochika Asai On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:06 PM, "Steiner, Moritz (Moritz)" wrote: > Dear Hirochika, Hiroshi, Tsuyoshi, > I accepted to review your draft as requested by the chairs during the sess= ion on Tuesday. I didn't follow the history of the draft before and it was q= uite difficult for me to get the big picture. Most important in my opinion i= s a more detailed discussion of the simulations results.=20 >=20 > Best > Moritz >=20 >=20 >=20 > Detailed comments: >=20 >=20 > - The draft is very hard to read. I suggest to find some native speaker to= help with the writing. >=20 > - abstract:=20 > * "costs more" than what?=20 > * The approach and the simulations results...-> the simulations= results... > * defines a solutions approach -> presents a solution > * with hiding -> while hiding > =20 > - intro:=20 > * generally expensive -> generally more expensive > * "costs more" compared to what? > * "global cost map" needs to be defined here, if not already in= the abstract. > =20 > - simulation results: > * a description of the traces is necessary. number of peers, AS= distribution, etc... > * why is the list of peers taken every minute? They announce th= emselves to the tracker only every 15 minutes. Does it make sense to have hi= gher resolution?=20 > * "These results also indicate ... worked quite well. " What is= this supposed to mean? More detailed analysis needed.=20 > * Looking at Table 2 it seems that for download traffic all the= overhead for alto and the computation of the cost map does not bring great i= mprovements. The numbers "AS hops" and "cooperative" are almost identical. T= his is addressed by one single sentence only. > * Table 3: why is the amount sent to peering partners so low fo= r "gentle" and "cooperative". Can you give some intuition? why are the numbe= rs of "cooperative" so close to "gentle" and so different from "selfish"? S= houldn't it be more in the middle between the two extremes? > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Hilt, Volker (Volker)=20 > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:02 PM > To: Steiner, Moritz (Moritz) > Cc: p2prg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: AW: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay >=20 > Great, thanks! >=20 > Volker >=20 > On 7/27/2011 2:49 PM, Steiner, Moritz (Moritz) wrote: >> cout me in, too. >>=20 >> Moritz >>=20 >>=20 >> ________________________________________ >> Von: p2prg-bounces@irtf.org [p2prg-bounces@irtf.org] im Auftrag von stefa= no previdi [sprevidi@cisco.com] >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 10:20 >> An: p2prg@irtf.org >> Cc: Hilt, Volker (Volker); Russ White >> Betreff: [p2prg] review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay >>=20 >> As stated during the meeting, we're setting up a small group of >> people willing to conduct the review of draft-asai-cross-domain-overlay. >> We already have to volunteers (thanks Piotr and Russ). Anyone else >> willing yo join the team is more than welcome. >>=20 >>=20 >> s. >> _______________________________________________ >> p2prg mailing list >> p2prg@irtf.org >> http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg > _______________________________________________ > p2prg mailing list > p2prg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg >=20