From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Wed Aug 1 02:04:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7780C21F8720 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:04:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o17Dgn+ctCgm for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (smtp02.uc3m.es [163.117.176.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEFA21F871D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:04:15 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.22.29] (S0106586d8ffdf6e5.vc.shawcable.net [24.85.67.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp02.uc3m.es) by smtp02.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D4FF1766A6D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:04:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: P2PSIP WG Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:04:08 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19076.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--0.046-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--0.046-7.0-31-1 Subject: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:04:16 -0000 Hi, A draft of the minutes is available: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-p2psip Many thanks Miguel Angel for providing the minutes. Please provide your feedback by the end of next week. Thanks, Brian & Carlos From petithug@acm.org Sun Aug 5 10:31:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C3921F84FD for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FWjv1Y0BuTZc for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CC721F84F3 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08] (shalmaneser.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B46E204E2; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <501EAE07.8070703@acm.org> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:31:51 -0700 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120624 Icedove/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es References: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> In-Reply-To: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: P2PSIP WG Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:31:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/01/2012 02:04 AM, Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano wrote: > Hi, > > A draft of the minutes is available: > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-p2psip > > Many thanks Miguel Angel for providing the minutes. > > Please provide your feedback by the end of next week. > 1. The minutes about the beginning of the WG session are missing, i.e. the part about the timeline of WGLCs for the following drafts: - - draft-ietf-p2psip-drr - - draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr - - draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning - - draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery - - draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts - - draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics 2. "DISCO and SHARE documents. This will be adopted as WG items, subject to confirmation on the list." Aren't we in circular loop here? This was discussed and adopted in Paris, then discussed in the list. 3. Because publication of updates for draft-ietf-p2psip-base tends to be, hmm, unpredictable implementers cannot count on it so I'd rather have a good list of what exactly was decided during the session: 3.1. "Slide 2: EKR disagrees with the proposed solution." The text will be clarified to say that the hash does contain the length prefix. 3.2. "Slide 3: agreed to make everything based on 1." 3rd paragraph will be changed to "search through the finger table entries from i=1 and ..." 3.3. "Slide 4: It is agreed to delete multicast." Everything related to multicast, anycast and broadcast will be removed from the draft, so there is no need for naked Ping. 3.4. "Slide 6: Cullen thinks there is nothing to update in the draft. Marc agrees. That needs to be checked with Michale." I do not remember agreeing with this (but I agreed that Michael should listen to Cullen's explanations). 3.5. "Slide 7: Agreed." "Connection table" to be replaced with "Neighbor table" in 10.7.4.1. 3.6. "Slide 8: The text will change to say that the configuration file will always be signed. EKR: Read the configuration file, get the key out of it, ... Agreement to update the draft." Configuration files retrieved from the configuration server are *always* signed. 3.7. "Slide 11: Cullen. We may need something more specific: "reload-config". Agreed." The agreed path is "/.well-known/reload-config" Thanks. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQHq4FAAoJECnERZXWan7Ex5sQANvuYH2lFDRmgeNdxXmwiH0w dO8wbevtmePJGw+CfVA+E7JBji2Bww3GEGG8Ff8mz4VjcmqMHEI1WQzkkmCvQFTB hu5fGhi82PsECK4pL/oe4Ed3AJzOoI+mRoRrlGCxUqn7LPOJP9SzJ3jZjV2G4k5W odf+QLa3CWk5FureDofNRkiNeSS4Ofm7nzh1r1Ngya47yWf5UZI2WOzGFtLFaTzb OdgZjdJ41aM+JaxCk3P/MJEWbV9hf6vEEN1khqY9xbtdbDy88/MUsfmbgZ26Nlf1 2Qfu6vVAccwqSjECAGL16NTryjy8Gmx1hDa7E3f2friFfyR/khM/mnunqRSyYHpe YwlFII/KQd7fCYhXIkH1KJVOgz04gAobKBk6nA60SUb7kBnGeARYW4X1v1t5+HzC agCbaV0Haf0t7fvuEB+6G37v/7wDYwUJpY8nCovzWBrp+gbaFvJ0c3OEXSBiWxle YtCbbEoNqucTy3DmDJ9IbrNQmozkRvcCFdyO0ViACKXNVOdZNdz5CehiBiVi36GP HrhjG3vZFMbkiIhpXdHIWDoXWtTOXoOVD2xm1rb0L1CQCHaUR/ZTnxyOA376+BSp v4hFZWMtGhHLWxv4vC8WWPth8nKeoLgsZcr6C6R0jt3s7XrpLnG08AHX4AAklAB3 vG7/O/SDL97+JJZmR5GK =SNMV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Mon Aug 6 14:19:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B10521E804D for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.694 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.694 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TMIYwJFZNe4b for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.uc3m.es (smtp03.uc3m.es [163.117.176.133]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C0021E8051 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:19:10 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.1.3] (89.141.95.213.dyn.user.ono.com [89.141.95.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp03.uc3m.es) by smtp03.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 673FE9D2CDF; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:19:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1344287948.5752.34.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: Marc Petit-Huguenin Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:19:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <501EAE07.8070703@acm.org> References: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> <501EAE07.8070703@acm.org> Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-nmGSVijWjW86mtATV9nT" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19090.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--28.343-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--28.343-7.0-31-1 Cc: P2PSIP WG Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:19:13 -0000 --=-nmGSVijWjW86mtATV9nT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Marc, Thanks a lot for your revision of the minutes. Please see some comments inline below. On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 10:31 -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > On 08/01/2012 02:04 AM, Carlos Jes=C3=BAs Bernardos Cano wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > A draft of the minutes is available: > >=20 > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-p2psip > >=20 > > Many thanks Miguel Angel for providing the minutes. > >=20 > > Please provide your feedback by the end of next week. > >=20 >=20 > 1. The minutes about the beginning of the WG session are missing, i.e. th= e > part about the timeline of WGLCs for the following drafts: >=20 > - draft-ietf-p2psip-drr > - draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr > - draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning > - draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery > - draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts > - draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics Well, this was supposed to be covered by "The chairs go through the WG status.", as Brian basically went through the slides. Would it be enough if we modify it to say "The chairs go through the WG status slides."? >=20 > 2. "DISCO and SHARE documents. This will be adopted as WG items, subject > to confirmation on the list." >=20 > Aren't we in circular loop here? This was discussed and adopted in Paris= , > then discussed in the list. It's true that was discussed in Paris and we had the call on the list before Vancouver. I think Brian mentioned the confirmation on the list because at that time we had not yet notified the adoption on the list. I'll modify the minutes to say "DISCO and SHARE documents. These will be adopted as WG items." >=20 > 3. Because publication of updates for draft-ietf-p2psip-base tends to be,= hmm, > unpredictable implementers cannot count on it so I'd rather have a good l= ist > of what exactly was decided during the session: >=20 > 3.1. "Slide 2: EKR disagrees with the proposed solution." >=20 > The text will be clarified to say that the hash does contain the length p= refix. OK, I've added your proposed text. >=20 > 3.2. "Slide 3: agreed to make everything based on 1." >=20 > 3rd paragraph will be changed to "search > through the finger table entries from i=3D1 and ..." OK, I've added your proposed text. >=20 > 3.3. "Slide 4: It is agreed to delete multicast." >=20 > Everything related to multicast, anycast and broadcast will be removed fr= om > the draft, so there is no need for naked Ping. OK, I've added your proposed text. >=20 > 3.4. "Slide 6: Cullen thinks there is nothing to update in the draft. Mar= c > agrees. That needs to be checked with Michale." >=20 > I do not remember agreeing with this (but I agreed that Michael should li= sten > to Cullen's explanations). What about "Slide 6: Cullen thinks there is nothing to update in the draft. That needs to be checked with Michael."? >=20 > 3.5. "Slide 7: Agreed." >=20 > "Connection table" to be replaced with "Neighbor table" in 10.7.4.1. OK, I've added your proposed text. >=20 > 3.6. "Slide 8: The text will change to say that the configuration file wi= ll > always be signed. EKR: Read the configuration file, get the key out of > it, ... Agreement to update the draft." >=20 > Configuration files retrieved from the configuration server are *always* = signed. OK, I've added your proposed text. >=20 > 3.7. "Slide 11: Cullen. We may need something more specific: > "reload-config". Agreed." >=20 > The agreed path is "/.well-known/reload-config" OK, I've added your proposed text. Minutes have been updated on the materials site. Thanks again for the feedback. >=20 >=20 > Thanks. >=20 --=20 Carlos Jes=C3=BAs Bernardos Cano http://www.netcoms.net GPG FP: D29B 0A6A 639A A561 93CA 4D55 35DC BA4D D170 4F67 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IEEE Network Special Issue on Video over Mobile Networks http://www.comsoc.org/netmag/call-papers (EXTENDED: July, 31) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --=-nmGSVijWjW86mtATV9nT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlAgNMwACgkQNdy6TdFwT2dyDwCfYdccBVX2OP2OuXr+pRo9Vq1A CGUAoLsX6xmNjAaSpoC44tNV27JcTuAT =7Caw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-nmGSVijWjW86mtATV9nT-- From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Mon Aug 6 14:22:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C8121F855F for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.995 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.995 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.304, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlU75JLb3bav for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (smtp02.uc3m.es [163.117.176.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E81E21F855D for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:22:45 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.1.3] (89.141.95.213.dyn.user.ono.com [89.141.95.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp02.uc3m.es) by smtp02.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7330E76705E for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:22:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1344288164.5752.37.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: p2psip@ietf.org Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:22:44 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19090.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No-1.683-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No-1.683-7.0-31-1 Subject: [P2PSIP] Adoption of draft-knauf-p2psip-disco and draft-knauf-p2psip-share as WG documents X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:22:47 -0000 Hi, Based on the discussion in the Paris and Vancouver meetings and on the mailing list, the consensus is to adopt draft-knauf-p2psip-disco and draft-knauf-p2psip-share as WG documents. Authors, please submit as draft-ietf-p2psip-* Thanks, Brian and Carlos From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Mon Aug 6 14:36:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F6711E80EC for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:36:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.033 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.033 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.266, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C62DJVZnmg+h for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.uc3m.es (smtp03.uc3m.es [163.117.176.133]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4F311E80DF for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.1.3] (89.141.95.213.dyn.user.ono.com [89.141.95.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp03.uc3m.es) by smtp03.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 821939D2CE4; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:36:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1344288987.5752.46.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: p2psip@ietf.org Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:36:27 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19090.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.255-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--8.255-7.0-31-1 Cc: p2psip-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-drr-02 X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:36:30 -0000 Hi, Hereby we are issuing a WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-drr-02. The WGLC will be open till the 3rd of September to give enough time for people to review considering the summer break. We kindly ask the WG to review the document and provide comments. If you have no comments and think the document is ready to be submitted to IESG, please do send a note stating that to the WG ML. Additional information about the document is below: Title : An extension to RELOAD to support Direct Response Routing Author(s) : Ning Zong Xingfeng Jiang Roni Even Yunfei Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-drr-02.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2012-05-29 This document proposes an optional extension to RELOAD to support direct response routing mode. RELOAD recommends symmetric recursive routing for routing messages. The new optional extension provides a shorter route for responses reducing the overhead on intermediary peers and describes the potential cases where this extension can be used. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-p2psip-drr-02.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-drr/ Thank you for your support. -- Brian and Carlos From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Mon Aug 6 14:36:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C543621E804C for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.062 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.062 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rXOjUMIqgFMk for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (smtp01.uc3m.es [163.117.176.131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA7C21E804D for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.1.3] (89.141.95.213.dyn.user.ono.com [89.141.95.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp01.uc3m.es) by smtp01.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE34DC3E875; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:36:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1344288993.5752.47.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: p2psip@ietf.org Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:36:33 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19082.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--7.561-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--7.561-7.0-31-1 Cc: p2psip-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02 X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:36:36 -0000 Hi, Hereby we are issuing a WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02. The WGLC will be open till the 3rd of September to give enough time for people to review considering the summer break. We kindly ask the WG to review the document and provide comments. If you have no comments and think the document is ready to be submitted to IESG, please do send a note stating that to the WG ML. Additional information about the document is below: Title : An extension to RELOAD to support Relay Peer Routing Author(s) : Ning Zong Xingfeng Jiang Roni Even Yunfei Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2012-05-29 This document proposes an optional extension to RELOAD to support relay peer routing mode. RELOAD recommends symmetric recursive routing for routing messages. The new optional extension provides a shorter route for responses reducing the overhead on intermediary peers and describes the potential cases where this extension can be used. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr/ Thank you for your support. -- Brian and Carlos From petithug@acm.org Mon Aug 6 15:14:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A74E11E8103 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:14:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hFgQHJlpJ-AS for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7960A11E80F4 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08] (shalmaneser.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD31E2044B; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 22:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <502041D5.6050906@acm.org> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:14:45 -0700 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120805 Icedove/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es References: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> <501EAE07.8070703@acm.org> <1344287948.5752.34.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> In-Reply-To: <1344287948.5752.34.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: P2PSIP WG Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:14:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/06/2012 02:19 PM, Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano wrote: > Dear Marc, > > Thanks a lot for your revision of the minutes. Please see some comments > inline below. > > > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 10:31 -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: >> On 08/01/2012 02:04 AM, Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> A draft of the minutes is available: >>> >>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-p2psip >>> >>> Many thanks Miguel Angel for providing the minutes. >>> >>> Please provide your feedback by the end of next week. >>> >> >> 1. The minutes about the beginning of the WG session are missing, i.e. >> the part about the timeline of WGLCs for the following drafts: >> >> - draft-ietf-p2psip-drr - draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr - >> draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning - draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery - >> draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts - draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics > > Well, this was supposed to be covered by "The chairs go through the WG > status.", as Brian basically went through the slides. Would it be enough if > we modify it to say "The chairs go through the WG status slides."? > I was not sure that I got the order of the WGLCs right during the meeting, especially with -diagnostics moved up, but now that I see that -drr and -rpr are WGLCed, as promised, I think the text is fine. Thanks again for resolving these quickly. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQIEHUAAoJECnERZXWan7EHSEQAKPmuRlk9+SW/2dMSSX2ou2V ULe21zcFRGDZHcKcVgq2cayUz/fuq5lbs97U+GK7iiiY/oHtpJpK4CD1QncbvIoS q344ut7QfOkw17SUKRRp6qam44YXUP8Y7Gfhro1rAYpPA3FhRKYgFl2vi2ei2Z8Z cZUug+/tXl0QSJtdWCyKWoGMgIVKfkjiZz+CUvdcnqAz5SG5PTqKVPVGRa8JkgMJ dvxqyo55q30Ikt9rZlpTu2T+w6KpGf3eS8M5ujuu3j5ADwLLf0U+mC+0eca9AGPe yFQzkhcYIHxdNRfp6cM3UMimVqyGEtlWa5rcDfWc4Vg8yezIdjq87OPXkS+U0uS2 J5fRB5lnTI9rkBOE+cMSri7SuP8Rq+GziHJAjPQvnH/Fs06sFTx+WiqaFMGXh+kI 3WzdT2kFOJCsCsLR1/hIR2JMpNL317KWx6dcifJ+slRcAaFUJvpAEwA13OyXbnjX 0qFsUMpCKHD8JbGpnHvipgkoMq/kjwWaiIafzRmdOdAayUvHYENg4dMMCwq5sJP0 CFVNVtZESoYOnXRTaWgdblJeFqntN48AGMayKjivk+qbPjOUhtWIJwoosckL9pQm Yd7Rxu4wOnaTIPz3jPYvrwC1xUFBYvv3q25DqZ7m1myq8vRhPFInn/6jajU3gzJQ TeRQka6cQCJEAlT1als6 =THKq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Mon Aug 6 15:29:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1085911E80A5 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.786 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.786 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0zC8p57zrJke for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (smtp01.uc3m.es [163.117.176.131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1735511E809A for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:29:50 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.1.3] (89.141.95.213.dyn.user.ono.com [89.141.95.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp01.uc3m.es) by smtp01.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE924C3F74C; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 00:29:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1344292189.5752.81.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: Marc Petit-Huguenin Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:29:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <502041D5.6050906@acm.org> References: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> <501EAE07.8070703@acm.org> <1344287948.5752.34.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> <502041D5.6050906@acm.org> Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2kYpd6G3Fpg94KNJr1+1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19082.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--19.216-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--19.216-7.0-31-1 Cc: P2PSIP WG Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:29:52 -0000 --=-2kYpd6G3Fpg94KNJr1+1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marc, On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:14 -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > On 08/06/2012 02:19 PM, Carlos Jes=C3=BAs Bernardos Cano wrote: > > Dear Marc, > >=20 > > Thanks a lot for your revision of the minutes. Please see some comments= =20 > > inline below. > >=20 > >=20 > > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 10:31 -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > >> On 08/01/2012 02:04 AM, Carlos Jes=C3=BAs Bernardos Cano wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>>=20 > >>> A draft of the minutes is available: > >>>=20 > >>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-p2psip > >>>=20 > >>> Many thanks Miguel Angel for providing the minutes. > >>>=20 > >>> Please provide your feedback by the end of next week. > >>>=20 > >>=20 > >> 1. The minutes about the beginning of the WG session are missing, i.e. > >> the part about the timeline of WGLCs for the following drafts: > >>=20 > >> - draft-ietf-p2psip-drr - draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr - > >> draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning - draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery - > >> draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts - draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics > >=20 > > Well, this was supposed to be covered by "The chairs go through the WG= =20 > > status.", as Brian basically went through the slides. Would it be enoug= h if > > we modify it to say "The chairs go through the WG status slides."? > >=20 >=20 > I was not sure that I got the order of the WGLCs right during the meeting= , > especially with -diagnostics moved up, but now that I see that -drr and -= rpr > are WGLCed, as promised, I think the text is fine. The plan (not 100% confirmed) after some discussion with our AD is to issue WGLC of -diagnostics after -drr and -rpr, and then self-tuning, and service-discovery. >=20 > Thanks again for resolving these quickly. Thanks for the comments. Carlos >=20 --=20 Carlos Jes=C3=BAs Bernardos Cano http://www.netcom.it.uc3m.es/ GPG FP: D29B 0A6A 639A A561 93CA 4D55 35DC BA4D D170 4F67 --=-2kYpd6G3Fpg94KNJr1+1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlAgRV0ACgkQNdy6TdFwT2ccRgCfTaoC4Jd/dktzuXVhCyx0ADLK pZ4AnRRz7Am4KylsCIYa/5U502BSnvPr =QPSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2kYpd6G3Fpg94KNJr1+1-- From br@brianrosen.net Tue Aug 7 06:24:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859CA21F8582 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 06:24:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.169 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.169 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zZs69dw51SkN for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 06:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from barmail5.idig.net (barmail5.idig.net [64.34.111.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932E421F8678 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 06:24:36 -0700 (PDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1344345875-0491e510321b9d30001-Myyk4K Received: from wwh1.winweblinux.com (wwh1.winweblinux.com [76.74.186.184]) by barmail5.idig.net with ESMTP id xU2hOK4uEjY4wRzg; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: br@brianrosen.net X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 76.74.186.184 Received: from neustargw.va.neustar.com ([209.173.53.233]:32557 helo=[192.168.133.62]) by wwh1.winweblinux.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Syjly-002qRR-VL; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:24:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Brian Rosen In-Reply-To: <1344292189.5752.81.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:24:33 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1343811848.4991.6.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> <501EAE07.8070703@acm.org> <1344287948.5752.34.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> <502041D5.6050906@acm.org> <1344292189.5752.81.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Barracuda-Connect: wwh1.winweblinux.com[76.74.186.184] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1344345875 X-Barracuda-URL: http://64.34.111.253:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at idig.net X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.12 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.12 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=3.5 tests=BSF_SC0_MISMATCH_TO, CN_BODY_332 X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.104950 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 BSF_SC0_MISMATCH_TO Envelope rcpt doesn't match header 0.12 CN_BODY_332 BODY: CN_BODY_332 Cc: P2PSIP WG Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Draft of meeting minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:24:37 -0000 And there will likely be a reference to -diagnostics in -base. Brian On Aug 6, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano wrote: > Hi Marc, >=20 > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:14 -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: >> On 08/06/2012 02:19 PM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano wrote: >>> Dear Marc, >>>=20 >>> Thanks a lot for your revision of the minutes. Please see some = comments=20 >>> inline below. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 10:31 -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: >>>> On 08/01/2012 02:04 AM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>>=20 >>>>> A draft of the minutes is available: >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-p2psip >>>>>=20 >>>>> Many thanks Miguel Angel for providing the minutes. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Please provide your feedback by the end of next week. >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> 1. The minutes about the beginning of the WG session are missing, = i.e. >>>> the part about the timeline of WGLCs for the following drafts: >>>>=20 >>>> - draft-ietf-p2psip-drr - draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr - >>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning - draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery = - >>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts - draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics >>>=20 >>> Well, this was supposed to be covered by "The chairs go through the = WG=20 >>> status.", as Brian basically went through the slides. Would it be = enough if >>> we modify it to say "The chairs go through the WG status slides."? >>>=20 >>=20 >> I was not sure that I got the order of the WGLCs right during the = meeting, >> especially with -diagnostics moved up, but now that I see that -drr = and -rpr >> are WGLCed, as promised, I think the text is fine. >=20 > The plan (not 100% confirmed) after some discussion with our AD is to > issue WGLC of -diagnostics after -drr and -rpr, and then self-tuning, > and service-discovery. >=20 >>=20 >> Thanks again for resolving these quickly. >=20 > Thanks for the comments. >=20 > Carlos >=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano http://www.netcom.it.uc3m.es/ > GPG FP: D29B 0A6A 639A A561 93CA 4D55 35DC BA4D D170 4F67 > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip From internet-drafts@ietf.org Wed Aug 8 18:17:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D6311E8147; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:17:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C3Fept-AVBDv; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660E711E8087; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:17:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.33 Message-ID: <20120809011714.9581.71447.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 18:17:14 -0700 Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-09.txt X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 01:17:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Peer-to-Peer Session Initiation Protocol = Working Group of the IETF. Title : P2PSIP Overlay Diagnostics Author(s) : Song Haibin Jiang Xingfeng Roni Even David A. Bryan Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-09.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2012-08-08 Abstract: This document describes mechanisms for P2PSIP diagnostics. It defines extensions to the RELOAD P2PSIP base protocol RELOAD [I-D.ietf-p2psip-base] to collect diagnostic information, and details the protocol specifications for these extensions. Useful diagnostic information for connection and node status monitoring is also defined. The document also describes the usage scenarios and provides examples of how these methods are used to perform diagnostics in a P2PSIP overlay networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-09 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From petithug@acm.org Mon Aug 13 11:04:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3505221F862B for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.814 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.814 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.703, BAYES_05=-1.11, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XeMnJCRjVGbJ for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF9921F862A for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08] (shalmaneser.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 944212044B; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50294193.4040700@acm.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:04:03 -0700 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120805 Icedove/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P2PSIP Mailing List , reload@implementers.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2PSIP] 2nd RELOAD interoperability testing event X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:04:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 We plan to organize a RELOAD interoperability event in Berlin, Germany on July 27 and 28 2013 (the Saturday and Sunday just before IETF 87). This is an early announcement to give enough time to people to work on their implementation. We have an agreement on principle for where the interop event will take place, and am happy to announce that this time we will have Internet access for the two days. I will send periodical reminders but the full details will be available after IETF 86. Face to face events are great for new implementations or to test complex scenarios, but remote testing is also useful for more mature implementations. So I would like to also announce the availability of a new service that provides virtual RELOAD configuration and enrollment servers. This is a free service for RELOAD implementers that want to test their implementation remotely against other implementations. More details are available here: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org/2012/08/a-configuration-and-enrollment-service.html - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQKUGRAAoJECnERZXWan7EqA4QAL20ddjr9QZ1t328WXgxgaXs IvH23X6fmYPMeDLvpuTwtXEIcOIVHxttfK9Q0k6nveZ3qiYPyV0UmGb0CP1pMs2G DKpFoeSRyvTXFhYG3znYwOWkwwbgzzEbABVXh+4hPL7U6YpxaXXzSMe7OSZ6SLJX AunqzSLRwRnTOCWor7jlwsfwVI03qsEMsmqCv6ulyYw3o2SXb4RFf79qNf0ZC8Ln qi3jFQQIrLhcoPB2aI/9UYIpabUlOdY8+20lfyAgNZSGK+EvIIR2Od8UC0RP/d7v hkklkgC3B/yI3oZOvIl8z9DFLN9PmAS7iT0py+OOmMcRMXXSPIHtHonD8JAr7XWX uyZYp1hZyx+kayys5R9fJO2ejEVwsmyJxRxxYyivldd/f+ofBtK/cRa1zz8HZKpD sN/zdhidNUl4IOOUlrOAz7aqDRaTFnR1sj9T1suNhc0CIjzoLiXUSNEFM9mr51V8 kaHWg+ETPgmN1Bq1djLnBeK0+y1g9eBdU/IGnPzO6VQRsac/x37smKQJ06K+LOe1 Nd0xT3ZgrstHDa9UkdW2JEmr2N/l4jjhjdLnuznIjogrPBTOIgF6HCGAWPxXiyZO 6KlTFblJGHLuzSA6t+aHWsPUwg+L9TfRkAElJI7AkC4U5Amus/8FMqmbKc9Fsxbi 4q7aCITpI9lMFwmDOa6/ =ddNf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From davidbryan@gmail.com Tue Aug 14 07:18:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716FC21F86F9 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qmi+N-RHx6kA for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA25821F8700 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so351952wey.31 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:18:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x5ewohRXJDPo6WNLG5EE0cmADh8lp0q2Q6VVSEtKxww=; b=djf29FUFnNJBRnHLLNLcZq1ZHNU0ahr/5PtBAhraAIcUgaICVp2KCyRtCuYkS6IpC3 7XpJmSysYnE/OILyilr17P2tnPb1dCQQd4WNTMT6GabawGFv/JdDFOKbAzEoqdzo0Pkq DzIiJYJ7ybQbRW3E8xh0ZtOetEmtFFTJDSUKg6ePPFCkOcrUriqYVuhO+MSU6jqvxWL5 CvQ8uos2B6xxjPqedXXrwPOACsV+RlgKsoTNjEGRUITRqJLH+q01L002VMgv1v0Itclf ZEj3vfPyAwkJUgO5cvZWaZEQ6mz2zgv2JdCTWsM/Yf1abkoNHTui99QYxT5UJmprtAcK FW8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.97.33 with SMTP id dx1mr28275578wib.18.1344953927910; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: davidbryan@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.36.67 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:18:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1344288993.5752.47.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> References: <1344288993.5752.47.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:18:47 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Y7kMErInteTCD9gnJ2E0HNG2Bqs Message-ID: From: "David A. Bryan" To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: p2psip-chairs@tools.ietf.org, p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02 X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:18:49 -0000 Both of the routing drafts (rpr and drr) are drafts I've supported for a long while. I took a peek at the most recent versions, and they definitely appear ready to submit to me. David On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano wrote: > Hi, > > Hereby we are issuing a WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02. > > The WGLC will be open till the 3rd of September to give enough time for > people to review considering the summer break. We kindly ask the WG to > review the document and provide comments. > > If you have no comments and think the document is ready to be submitted > to IESG, please do send a note stating that to the WG ML. > > Additional information about the document is below: > > Title : An extension to RELOAD to support Relay Peer > Routing > Author(s) : Ning Zong > Xingfeng Jiang > Roni Even > Yunfei Zhang > Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2012-05-29 > > This document proposes an optional extension to RELOAD to support > relay peer routing mode. RELOAD recommends symmetric recursive > routing for routing messages. The new optional extension provides a > shorter route for responses reducing the overhead on intermediary > peers and describes the potential cases where this extension can be > used. > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02.txt > > > The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr/ > > > Thank you for your support. > > -- Brian and Carlos > > > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip From petithug@acm.org Fri Aug 24 11:09:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BC221F8504 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8i3YyBQp7Rnv for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FB721F8503 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08] (shalmaneser.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E464202A8 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5037C342.6040902@acm.org> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:09:06 -0700 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120817 Icedove/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P2PSIP Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [P2PSIP] Extended Key Usage for RELOAD certificates X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:09:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 In summary, there is a use case for RELOAD that would benefit from having an Extended Key Usage (RFC 5280) defined and enforced by RELOAD implementations. Here's the use case: An enrollment server as defined by section 11.3 generates certificates that are used by a RELOAD implementation as client and server certificates for the purpose of establishing (D)TLS links, and to sign RELOAD messages and data. An enrollment server will also probably need an OAM interface, e.g. to provision the username/password, and one natural way to design this API is by using a RESTful API over HTTPS. Obviously access to this API must be restricted and one way of doing this is by using client certificate. Buying a certificate that can be used to sign client certificates is expensive, so an alternate way is to use a self-signed certificate as CA for this purpose (the server certificate still need to be signed by a trusted CA), which mean that there is two self-signed CA certificates per overlay, one for signing RELOAD certificates, and a second one for signing HTTPS certificates. Having a RELOAD Extended Key Usage added in each RELOAD certificate and having all RELOAD implementations verifying that the certificates used contain this usage will permit to use the same self-signed CA certificate for signing both RELOAD certificates and HTTPS certificates. Reducing the number of self-signed certificates from two to one does not seem that useful until one is developing an application that require to allocate a different overlay to each user. There is one use case where enforcing a RELOAD Extended Key Usage can be a problem: There is usages of RELOAD where an Overlay Link Layer using Websocket over HTTPS could be useful, in which case an existing Websocket implementation would probably reject a connection that is using a RELOAD certificate. That can easily be solved by using code that is specific to RELOAD. So is there some support to have something this? If yes, should it be added to -base, or developed as an extension? Thanks. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQN8NAAAoJECnERZXWan7EDFkQANb3ajGoKZunezUCJRPXeWmy /pCdpWRQJSJD2gQ5pEsYmVDhGTR1jES4haC6HXB7X/fTmNGlF0CEoufRpxmUcwkW jTVCsfX2Hcb0BQcD1lKENyPgYHk9UN86QaNHBzoGIb0FPoXbfnOi8Nkvu32/pftu XQ0nbaB9bIRKtsKA3qeFWv4tPt5d59vpLK9edUcef4Gz0EWde7mf/bOalEiKdAg2 DBr1NfxHEsHZo/elIZuIHpW3JaSwZFVmZYs8M1AallCppR5CegJZEYLdJAaWkUQw wS3CYTEsi+QsTomRHyfsg+rt+3/ZzRfk5eOtnSrZctxoV8xJAF6GBZbgVTiKtnHc pA6W+1y+geAirQwGxIcKOlg5r8bSDqs07Y42yB0er0fJy+WKR9+zXKGY4DoFY28r ovFHyaE4IMNS7FvsbcfvPBEoxAZXCfMHxEDtzLTTZdYmY4BOoM0SpGwjwbfqySVf hJ4T/cHGESwT2JQvx3LMLFssXLGKj+dO3mwDYBxY3a2FvLcM5i5aiIKMYrmBsbnu DMCMLTc4Z+VpR6f30vnLRIOc9Uu8laso5Tf6eCj+lCx7ncNbSiMZyk15n5PwUL8j ITlXU5MUK0UNislPGhNynLRiqfrVAxdMGhQe+BKK3/O33CPrKxNjKcqd56EgBbQm sDXuY52VdSbFE526hGIp =q5qO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From haibin.song@huawei.com Sun Aug 26 19:38:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBA821F85B1 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:38:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.386 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.213, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LGIw3bcEGVib for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BFB21F85A4 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfwdlp03-ep.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id AOX00133; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from DFWEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) by dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:36:12 -0700 Received: from SZXEML413-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.152) by dfweml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:36:11 -0700 Received: from SZXEML534-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.70]) by szxeml413-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.152]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:36:05 +0800 From: Songhaibin To: "David A. Bryan" , "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" Thread-Topic: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02 Thread-Index: AQHNeie/Wn7TZotxdUuwhJdvDBqlAZdtA/vQ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:36:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1344288993.5752.47.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.123] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "p2psip-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "p2psip@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02 X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:38:12 -0000 I also support both RPR and DRR drafts and think they are ready to submit. BR, -Haibin > -----Original Message----- > From: p2psip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2psip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of > David A. Bryan > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:19 PM > To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es > Cc: p2psip-chairs@tools.ietf.org; p2psip@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02 >=20 > Both of the routing drafts (rpr and drr) are drafts I've supported for > a long while. I took a peek at the most recent versions, and they > definitely appear ready to submit to me. >=20 > David >=20 > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Hereby we are issuing a WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02. > > > > The WGLC will be open till the 3rd of September to give enough time for > > people to review considering the summer break. We kindly ask the WG to > > review the document and provide comments. > > > > If you have no comments and think the document is ready to be submitted > > to IESG, please do send a note stating that to the WG ML. > > > > Additional information about the document is below: > > > > Title : An extension to RELOAD to support Relay Peer > > Routing > > Author(s) : Ning Zong > > Xingfeng Jiang > > Roni Even > > Yunfei Zhang > > Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02.txt > > Pages : 15 > > Date : 2012-05-29 > > > > This document proposes an optional extension to RELOAD to support > > relay peer routing mode. RELOAD recommends symmetric recursive > > routing for routing messages. The new optional extension provides a > > shorter route for responses reducing the overhead on intermediary > > peers and describes the potential cases where this extension can be > > used. > > > > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-02.txt > > > > > > The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr/ > > > > > > Thank you for your support. > > > > -- Brian and Carlos > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > P2PSIP mailing list > > P2PSIP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip