From nobody Thu Jul 3 12:52:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10901B2A5A; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XcgrTzaFLmNO; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24241B2A1B; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.0.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140703195212.21840.3450.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 12:52:12 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/0PpCqT1qZglvq18trY4-c6vGptQ Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-15.txt X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 19:52:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Peer-to-Peer Session Initiation Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : P2P Overlay Diagnostics Authors : Haibin Song Jiang Xingfeng Roni Even David A. Bryan Yi Sun Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-15.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2014-07-03 Abstract: This document describes mechanisms for P2P overlay diagnostics. It defines extensions to the RELOAD P2PSIP base protocol to collect diagnostic information, and details the protocol specifications for these extensions. Useful diagnostic information for connection and node status monitoring is also defined. The document also describes the usage scenarios and provides examples of how these methods are used to perform diagnostics in P2PSIP overlay networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jul 4 00:54:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D359C1A0AC1 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:54:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VFCkW3itgbI9 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29D041B2B7D for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:54:43 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-f79da6d000004ad3-dd-53b65dc2aed0 Received: from ESESSHC013.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sesbmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id AB.50.19155.2CD56B35; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 09:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [131.160.126.120] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 09:54:41 +0200 Message-ID: <53B65DC1.2050805@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:54:41 +0300 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupmluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3RvdQ7LZgg5fPZCyW3DzD6MDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujHMLRArWMFecPJbVwPiCqYuRk0NCwETi66wLLBC2mMSFe+vZ uhi5OIQEjjJKTJ57jBHCWcMocWvCSyCHg4NXQFuie6ErSAOLgIrE2jNTwAaxCVhIbLl1H2yQ qECUxJ1L/awgNq+AoMTJmU/A4iICohKbt18Cq2cWcJV40dDLDDJSWCBAYvKOWBBTQkBcoqcx CKJCT2LK1RZGCFteYvvbOcwgthDQAcuftbBMYBSYhWTBLCQts5C0LGBkXsUoWpxanJSbbmSs l1qUmVxcnJ+nl5dasokRGHoHt/xW3cF4+Y3jIUYBDkYlHl6FWVuDhVgTy4orcw8xSnOwKInz Ljw3L1hIID2xJDU7NbUgtSi+qDQntfgQIxMHp1QD49Q91xjYrV1vFp+90f0mtTj13Jt7BdeZ HrjwXzx14T7zTZUsN5tQhy3e9kbN55Wm/1wgM8fh3j7peYZLRKZYJ1vwF/7w+5u4r8azO2Ex S25ehnbAq8i1XYXPrk4UVNpvXHHjot0/sd2lgUveT3x08JYfV9kah6iN1/J38x5zFgg9zBh6 OkY0U4mlOCPRUIu5qDgRAIlQjbgeAgAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/tJQFgMjviRIn3HsjLvxZB1VHBwc Subject: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 07:54:46 -0000 Folks, we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new services in the draft below: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section-10.4 Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Required (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations) be OK with the group? http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1 Cheers, Gonzalo From nobody Mon Jul 7 08:15:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3171D1A0166 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.267 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.267 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-k3zaQdQN7c for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-0018ba01.pphosted.com (mx0b-0018ba01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B54501A0162 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049367.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049367.ppops.net-0018ba01. (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s67F7xKW007732; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:15:15 -0400 Received: from stntexhc11.cis.neustar.com ([156.154.17.216]) by m0049367.ppops.net-0018ba01. with ESMTP id 1mywv000pj-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:15:15 -0400 Received: from STNTEXMB10.cis.neustar.com ([169.254.5.252]) by stntexhc11.cis.neustar.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:15:14 -0400 From: "Rosen, Brian" To: Gonzalo Camarillo Thread-Topic: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery Thread-Index: AQHPmfZA6TI7EMBUjkWX2onzS6JExA== Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:15:13 +0000 Message-ID: <7C80BF6A-A600-42F3-9425-2659D3C1CFF5@neustar.biz> References: <53B65DC1.2050805@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <53B65DC1.2050805@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.33.192.29] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5600 definitions=7491 signatures=670477 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/Otj6dgey234j-76l7BgAAmOy7aU Cc: "p2psip@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 15:15:20 -0000 Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me. Brian On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Folks, >=20 > we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new services > in the draft below: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section= -10.4 >=20 > Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Required > (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations) > be OK with the group? >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Gonzalo >=20 > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip From nobody Mon Jul 7 13:06:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973071B28B4 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:06:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yi1k7Vn5cu7A for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79D881A0A88 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n12so3121275wgh.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:06:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=loJ93q3HHBj0t+Cses3q4lBiVb08uWnmxkWKD9J4YKw=; b=XXddZVOqfCikGKb6F7wfOOXErJV+AYpCpkFBOzq1GNNfqcKouuNIYzRocD3JLAIONr adbUimQWZKmt1u6kUWAcud6q3lJcw6YxXg+N1WK6y06/e90EhKxfkaDRgL9UWgNbbcON cGt3zbEtl0ihXOZkzm1+EtseciEGczVTP7LZglr4b3TDfvRxAqUofSwiR9ll2pm1comh VgdPlehH2p4DnrwIQXAYZOAlIQpTvGyr0McbtTYdxtYCyt+f0mcyGgu9GiSqTrsFgkVC 3Nj/YhK1ODfVUNU6rdukNv8bMD/Y1vEIL+8kKPGrXgL02HdiCvHCdDYmZ8xksT5HzQ/u 7lvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkGTDxOe5p3w8rF9/pdp2zREKP3pvnYAKEU5XkylaNUs0dJnh9xIJVnmwGzMVyE2d4E9zTq MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.212.68 with SMTP id ni4mr39211862wic.64.1404763573016; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.92.9 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:06:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [70.116.37.150] In-Reply-To: <7C80BF6A-A600-42F3-9425-2659D3C1CFF5@neustar.biz> References: <53B65DC1.2050805@ericsson.com> <7C80BF6A-A600-42F3-9425-2659D3C1CFF5@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:06:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Bryan To: "Rosen, Brian" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3570cc377f104fda001cc Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/pCpfecMW_dStWEZ-yrkAhBAq4eE Cc: "p2psip@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:06:17 -0000 --001a11c3570cc377f104fda001cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A bit curious...why Specification Required vs. RFC Required? Do you envision some other formal, but non-IETF document (other standards group, perhaps) being a valid path? Certainly no objection. The distinction between the two is just a bit confusing to me. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Rosen, Brian wrote: > Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me. > > Brian > > On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo < > Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new services > > in the draft below: > > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section-10.4 > > > > Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Required > > (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations) > > be OK with the group? > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1 > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gonzalo > > > > _______________________________________________ > > P2PSIP mailing list > > P2PSIP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > --001a11c3570cc377f104fda001cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A bit curious...why Specification Required vs. RFC Require= d? Do you envision some other formal, but non-IETF document (other standard= s group, perhaps) being a valid path?

Certainly no objec= tion. The distinction between the two is just a bit confusing to me.


On Mon,= Jul 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Rosen, Brian <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz&= gt; wrote:
Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me.
Brian

On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new service= s
> in the draft below:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iet= f-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section-10.4
>
> Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Require= d
> (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations)=
> be OK with the group?
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gonzalo
>
> _______________________________________________
> P2PSIP mailing list
> P2PSIP@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip

_______________________________________________
P2PSIP mailing list
P2PSIP@ietf.org
= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip

--001a11c3570cc377f104fda001cc-- From nobody Mon Jul 7 13:15:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4183E1B28C1 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:15:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nrWP3FOXhu7Y for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-0018ba01.pphosted.com (mx0a-0018ba01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FBD61B28D3 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049402.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049402.ppops.net-0018ba01. (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s67KEf70019437; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:15:42 -0400 Received: from stntexhc10.cis.neustar.com ([156.154.17.216]) by m0049402.ppops.net-0018ba01. with ESMTP id 1my57thmur-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:15:42 -0400 Received: from STNTEXMB10.cis.neustar.com ([169.254.5.252]) by stntexhc10.cis.neustar.com ([169.254.4.116]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:15:41 -0400 From: "Rosen, Brian" To: David Bryan Thread-Topic: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery Thread-Index: AQHPmfZA6TI7EMBUjkWX2onzS6JExJuVTO4A//+/lYA= Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:15:40 +0000 Message-ID: References: <53B65DC1.2050805@ericsson.com> <7C80BF6A-A600-42F3-9425-2659D3C1CFF5@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 x-originating-ip: [10.33.192.29] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CFE077DF7038Cbrianrosenneustarbiz_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5600 definitions=7492 signatures=670477 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/n77ehM_mNMh3NXthuYW3Rp0rGE0 Cc: "p2psip@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:15:51 -0000 --_000_CFE077DF7038Cbrianrosenneustarbiz_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Experience suggest that some services can be created by some independent pa= rty, and often memorialized with a informational document. But, let=92s sa= y someone like OMS decides to do one =96 no problem. Brian From: David Bryan > Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 at 1:06 PM To: Brian Rosen > Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo >, "p2psip@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip= -service-discovery A bit curious...why Specification Required vs. RFC Required? Do you envisio= n some other formal, but non-IETF document (other standards group, perhaps)= being a valid path? Certainly no objection. The distinction between the two is just a bit confu= sing to me. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Rosen, Brian > wrote: Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me. Brian On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo > wrote: > Folks, > > we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new services > in the draft below: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section= -10.4 > > Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Required > (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations) > be OK with the group? > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1 > > Cheers, > > Gonzalo > > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list P2PSIP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip --_000_CFE077DF7038Cbrianrosenneustarbiz_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <3629E373ED0E414CA7BC0B5E6D3DD2AA@neustar.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Experience suggest that some services can be created by some independe= nt party, and often memorialized with a informational document.  But, = let=92s say someone like OMS decides to do one =96 no problem.

Brian

From: David Bryan <dbryan@ethernot.org>
Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 at 1:06 = PM
To: Brian Rosen <brian.rosen@neustar.biz>
Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>, "p2psip@ietf.org" = <p2psip@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration = policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery

A bit curious...why Specification Required vs. RFC Require= d? Do you envision some other formal, but non-IETF document (other standard= s group, perhaps) being a valid path?

Certainly no objection. The distinction between the two is just a bit = confusing to me.


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Rosen, Brian <Brian.Rose= n@neustar.biz> wrote:
Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me.

Brian

On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new service= s
> in the draft below:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section-1= 0.4
>
> Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Require= d
> (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations)=
> be OK with the group?
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gonzalo
>
> _______________________________________________
> P2PSIP mailing list
> P2PSIP@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip

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 --_000_CFE077DF7038Cbrianrosenneustarbiz_-- From nobody Mon Jul 7 13:17:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBE31A0A88 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:17:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GteohIjTDRxt for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A58691A0515 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi2so7355874wib.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zjCx6U+HKOoLrTUDbkjr2YdCVICGvDEVw9s8ncHZL0g=; b=MmPYtgmpFGY5YR2YBk/krgeNkLb4tpCw/t6WK67ZbJTg//ldew5hiZWKZkFVTm6A4W n8xeWTV2JziL5C56ihwHH+VdYIe65wBR2aSpS2mxreRzmqOD4Wk2Y0txhs4OwTFVl+11 3l8BBSZiftcwsRKup2PHCmjXL5R7SGW7rDUw+Z/fKRR7jmv6LXz94y09YhoFe+nto6zk +GtZLtLfCofDoy9R/qqn2vfPEV9uNM4o2VmHuNMo4dc2LTkP3BIul4otZGZ3ADDWKzwp HdgekhqVZrp6QtKBcfGS+T6j0CZCN4J4eSKRliOIazWiZhI9pmdLYRTs1QR67rQUN1PB wRbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/VktcSb1lRcn8OkZ92Zpt0MTQBkm3T1q8GFEUggXq+NBnEyvn13z75D3S//I4mjv0g/q8 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.10.168 with SMTP id j8mr79504418wib.73.1404764219296; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.92.9 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [70.116.37.150] In-Reply-To: References: <53B65DC1.2050805@ericsson.com> <7C80BF6A-A600-42F3-9425-2659D3C1CFF5@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Bryan To: "Rosen, Brian" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2591848e36804fda028a9 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/3QylFqc5JiKGsSFr_tIUHIUXGpg Cc: "p2psip@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:17:03 -0000 --001a11c2591848e36804fda028a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Makes sense. Thanks. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Rosen, Brian wrote: > Experience suggest that some services can be created by some independent > party, and often memorialized with a informational document. But, let=E2= =80=99s > say someone like OMS decides to do one =E2=80=93 no problem. > > Brian > > From: David Bryan > Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 at 1:06 PM > To: Brian Rosen > Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo , "p2psip@ietf.org" > > Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration policy for services in > draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery > > A bit curious...why Specification Required vs. RFC Required? Do you > envision some other formal, but non-IETF document (other standards group, > perhaps) being a valid path? > > Certainly no objection. The distinction between the two is just a bit > confusing to me. > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Rosen, Brian > wrote: > >> Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me. >> >> Brian >> >> On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo < >> Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote: >> >> > Folks, >> > >> > we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new service= s >> > in the draft below: >> > >> > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#sectio= n-10.4 >> > >> > Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Require= d >> > (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations) >> > be OK with the group? >> > >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1 >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Gonzalo >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > P2PSIP mailing list >> > P2PSIP@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >> >> _______________________________________________ >> P2PSIP mailing list >> P2PSIP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >> > > --001a11c2591848e36804fda028a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Makes sense. Thanks.

<= br>
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Rosen, Brian = <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz> wrote:
Experience suggest that some services can be created by some independe= nt party, and often memorialized with a informational document. =C2=A0But, = let=E2=80=99s say someone like OMS decides to do one =E2=80=93 no problem.<= /div>

Brian

From: David Bryan <dbryan@ethernot.org>
Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 at 1:06 = PM
To: Brian Rosen <brian.rosen@neustar.biz&g= t;
Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camari= llo@ericsson.com>, "p2psip@ietf.org" <p2psip@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Registration = policy for services in draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery

A bit curious...why Specification Required vs. RFC Require= d? Do you envision some other formal, but non-IETF document (other standard= s group, perhaps) being a valid path?

Certainly no objection. The distinction between the two is just a bit = confusing to me.


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Rosen, Brian <Brian.Rose= n@neustar.biz> wrote:
Yeah, that seems to be appropriate to me.

Brian

On Jul 4, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> we need to decide the IANA registration policy to register new service= s
> in the draft below:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-13#section-1= 0.4
>
> Out of the well-known IANA policies below, would Specification Require= d
> (which includes a designated expert who will review new registrations)=
> be OK with the group?
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gonzalo
>
> _______________________________________________
> P2PSIP mailing list
> P2PSIP@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip

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--001a11c2591848e36804fda028a9-- From nobody Mon Jul 21 11:28:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DB61A01E6 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:28:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dxUOTkVJQ3MR for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg23.ericsson.net (sessmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 707541A010A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:27:59 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-f798a6d000000e9b-d7-53cd5bad7fb2 Received: from ESESSHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sessmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 1D.ED.03739.DAB5DC35; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:27:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [131.160.126.92] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:27:56 +0200 Message-ID: <53CD5BAC.3080500@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:27:56 -0400 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje7a6LPBBm3TDC2mn/nLaLHk5hlG ByaPL09eMnksWfKTKYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSujq2kyU8F5pooHzw+yNzD2M3UxcnJICJhI 7P9/gR3CFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwFFGib9NF5ggnDWMEn+uT2UGqeIV0Jb4dvIZI4jNIqAqMa+p nwXEZhOwkNhy6z6YLSoQJXHnUj8rRL2gxMmZT8DiIgKiEpu3XwLbzAzUe/95M9A2Dg5hASOJ Z+9tQEwJAXGJnsYgiAo9iSlXWxghbHmJ7W/ngF0gBHTB8mctLBMYBWYhWTALScssJC0LGJlX MYoWpxYX56YbGeulFmUmFxfn5+nlpZZsYgQG5cEtv3V3MK5+7XiIUYCDUYmHVyH0bLAQa2JZ cWXuIUZpDhYlcd5F5+YFCwmkJ5akZqemFqQWxReV5qQWH2Jk4uCUamAMmXTUolpafKKqQMfO lRcPSe1b/85Mzo1dMSGhwTTzwZ2NwheDj606m794btUDq00tsn739m7ktlyXv8nmSeL57xvr 7nzXvJd85Io4692mxUrn95vKP2U9Hfb5ITuX98WMEje+p01+u7fKNkSue6ycwS3/W4fZI870 KoNIVvLdB3NXL5tR/WiNEktxRqKhFnNRcSIAeiJ6pisCAAA= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/sCAoPseHkZCDP_BTsubq51S1Aa0 Subject: [P2PSIP] Revision of draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:28:01 -0000 Hi, we have revised the draft below in order to address IESG comments. At this point, the draft is ready to be approved from an IESG's perspective. http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning-15.txt Please, have a look at the new revision. Alissa intends to approve it shortly. Thanks, Gonzalo From nobody Mon Jul 21 11:41:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F611A0360; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cOc4c9ygj55m; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93421A0345; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:41:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.1.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140721184103.22740.54923.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:41:03 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/ytI37ODBYdevKByRrgxQVB4_W6Q Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13.txt X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:41:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Peer-to-Peer Session Initiation Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : A SIP Usage for RELOAD Authors : Cullen Jennings Bruce B. Lowekamp Eric Rescorla Salman A. Baset Henning Schulzrinne Thomas C. Schmidt Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2014-07-21 Abstract: This document defines a SIP Usage for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD). The SIP Usage provides the functionality of a SIP proxy or registrar in a fully-distributed system and includes a lookup service for Address of Records (AORs) stored in the overlay. It also defines Globally Routable User Agent Uris (GRUUs) that allow the registrations to map an AOR to a specific node reachable through the overlay. After such initial contact of a peer, the AppAttach method is used to establish a direct connection between nodes through which SIP messages are exchanged. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-sip/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 21 11:48:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BD21A011C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:47:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N4zYuQgHwjAQ for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45CD51A015F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: p2psip@ietf.org Received: from dhcp-a74b.meeting.ietf.org ([31.133.167.75]) by mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1X9Ick-000D4e-I4; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:47:46 +0200 Message-ID: <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:47:44 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Rosen , =?UTF-8?B?Q2FybG9zIEplc8O6cyBCZXJuYXI=?= =?UTF-8?B?ZG9zIENhbm8=?= References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: p2psip@ietf.org Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/qGXJr6p5v4YFZ9V34gjOi0z-BQg Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] Fwd: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:47:53 -0000 Hi Chairs, I wonder about moving this document? It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. How are plans? Thanks, Thomas -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset , Henning Schulzrinne , Thomas Schmidt Hi, The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your draft draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of the draft. 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[31.133.179.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft6sm11256099wic.0.2014.07.21.12.26.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Brian Rosen In-Reply-To: <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:26:07 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> To: "Thomas C. Schmidt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/tgX0r-_9q0D3pkqO5ra4b65lGNw Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:26:16 -0000 If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it would = be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task of getting it = done and through the process, I think we ought to abandon it. Brian On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt = wrote: > Hi Chairs, >=20 > I wonder about moving this document? >=20 > It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for = draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >=20 > How are plans? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Thomas >=20 > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 > From: IETF I-D Submission Tool > To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp = , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset = , Henning Schulzrinne , = Thomas Schmidt >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your draft > draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a > confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of > the draft. >=20 > Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the posting: >=20 > = http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d= 172f5975b09068/ >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > The IETF Secretariat > through the draft submission service >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Mon Jul 21 12:32:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B561A032A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9cu8Hiv0ROkP for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 695F31A00AB for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: p2psip@ietf.org Received: from dhcp-a74b.meeting.ietf.org ([31.133.167.75]) by mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1X9JJy-000Ep6-Cv; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:32:26 +0200 Message-ID: <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:32:22 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Rosen References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: p2psip@ietf.org Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/c4myZu1IC_t0IJZ-ra9IKEsGquQ Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:32:31 -0000 Hi Brian, from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess it mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? Thanks, Thomas On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: > If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task of getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to abandon it. > > Brian > > On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > >> Hi Chairs, >> >> I wonder about moving this document? >> >> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >> >> How are plans? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Thomas >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip >> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 >> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >> To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset , Henning Schulzrinne , Thomas Schmidt >> >> >> Hi, >> >> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your draft >> draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a >> confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of >> the draft. >> >> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the posting: >> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d172f5975b09068/ >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> through the draft submission service >> >> >> >> > -- Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° From nobody Mon Jul 21 13:10:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AC21A0406 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.821 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YPGUDMSVAjNp for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f54.google.com (mail-qa0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7587B1A03FF for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id k15so5720004qaq.27 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=ZA+bz4SzGO6YJQJYdTVofoGrkKZT8mPzDuk/iBsDCbY=; b=fVao05FEddDLwgKv2xECnKod89GAVPzO0ChLUgxef+8LK7p5vYKCrsAAVjFEZ4/vJM Vg7OyMpl2ghR7h/ENV6nJ7BdRVOKxCIy3M6s/cel0V5qIhMOBLITGdGXsi1sIP/5f4Va QbO0Gqr0NWegzO2+Hw4oxUi0dIi0zHl2i1WNtGrmUZr2yvQ7QfjhD37ZJqIETwBLOrav OPfbg0/2FVTGDycnJSra3gPH4N1zMcjU0K9U9sdKf3rbVrIxyKFmlhphp8S97IgCBt3O xajRlzdGugbvIhmPglKmih1FHIRkgWTexFS+jUHuAOTQIBHiTeKQFo56C1I8rOQCbmWO URHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn3ulS024Jg4FbsGT5NL5YpQAELGMXCMnBD1Du0sk4vf/fu5Uf4UMRslvbc1q3DTb+y4qHn X-Received: by 10.140.104.49 with SMTP id z46mr42338487qge.74.1405973443636; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [156.154.7.47] ([209.173.57.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h5sm17169101qgf.19.2014.07.21.13.10.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Brian Rosen In-Reply-To: <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:10:41 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> To: "Thomas C. Schmidt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/gfNWBqRnIaMjBgjPDcL9OLmCC-4 Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:10:52 -0000 I understood differently. I understood the document to be behind the = reality of RELOAD. If I=92m incorrect, we certainly can shepherd it through the process. Brian On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt = wrote: > Hi Brian, >=20 > from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess it = mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Thomas >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: >> If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it = would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task of = getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to abandon it. >>=20 >> Brian >>=20 >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Chairs, >>>=20 >>> I wonder about moving this document? >>>=20 >>> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for = draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >>>=20 >>> How are plans? >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>>=20 >>> Thomas >>>=20 >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip >>> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 >>> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >>> To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp = , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset = , Henning Schulzrinne , = Thomas Schmidt >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your = draft >>> draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a >>> confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of >>> the draft. >>>=20 >>> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the = posting: >>>=20 >>> = http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d= 172f5975b09068/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Best regards, >>>=20 >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> through the draft submission service >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt > =B0 Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner = Tor 7 =B0 > =B0 Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, = Germany =B0 > =B0 http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: = +49-40-42875-8452 =B0 > =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: = +49-40-42875-8409 =B0 From nobody Mon Jul 21 13:18:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298CA1A024C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eb90rZCKS1YK for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (smtp01.uc3m.es [163.117.176.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7717C1A023E for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFBFD230A6; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:18:12 +0200 (CEST) X-uc3m-safe: yes X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [31.133.179.5] (dhcp-b305.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.179.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp01.uc3m.es) by smtp01.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 225F9D23037; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1405973890.21180.29.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: Brian Rosen Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:18:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-7.5.0.1018-20832.002 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/i6CD-V_5F581DoRDIvRZkWX2GoY Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:18:19 -0000 On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 16:10 -0400, Brian Rosen wrote: > I understood differently. I understood the document to be behind the reality of RELOAD. > > If I’m incorrect, we certainly can shepherd it through the process. And if that is the case, we actually need several reviews of the document from the WG to make progress. Carlos > > Brian > > On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > > > Hi Brian, > > > > from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess it mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: > >> If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task of getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to abandon it. > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Chairs, > >>> > >>> I wonder about moving this document? > >>> > >>> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. > >>> > >>> How are plans? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Thomas > >>> > >>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>> Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip > >>> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 > >>> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool > >>> To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset , Henning Schulzrinne , Thomas Schmidt > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your draft > >>> draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a > >>> confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of > >>> the draft. > >>> > >>> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the posting: > >>> > >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d172f5975b09068/ > >>> > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> The IETF Secretariat > >>> through the draft submission service > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > -- > > > > Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt > > ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° > > ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° > > ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° > > ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° > From nobody Mon Jul 21 13:21:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF141A023E for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IJRSXCbPGXJq for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 037E91A01DC for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: p2psip@ietf.org Received: from dhcp-a74b.meeting.ietf.org ([31.133.167.75]) by mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1X9K4t-000GXT-Sl; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:20:56 +0200 Message-ID: <53CD7626.2090908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:20:54 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Rosen References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: p2psip@ietf.org Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/p8b9xm3uSK4zbEe-4OmaT0WljU4 Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:21:02 -0000 Hi Brian, I'm not aware that the document is behind RELOAD - but we will check. I'll be back on this shortly. Thomas On 21.07.2014 16:10, Brian Rosen wrote: > I understood differently. I understood the document to be behind the reality of RELOAD. > > If I’m incorrect, we certainly can shepherd it through the process. > > Brian > > On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> >> from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess it mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >> On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: >>> If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task of getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to abandon it. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chairs, >>>> >>>> I wonder about moving this document? >>>> >>>> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >>>> >>>> How are plans? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Thomas >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip >>>> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 >>>> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >>>> To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset , Henning Schulzrinne , Thomas Schmidt >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your draft >>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a >>>> confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of >>>> the draft. >>>> >>>> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the posting: >>>> >>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d172f5975b09068/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>> through the draft submission service >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt >> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° >> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° >> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° >> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° > -- Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° From nobody Thu Jul 24 12:21:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFCE1B2830 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:21:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JmeaBw5ahJJh for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9469A1A03A5 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: p2psip@ietf.org Received: from dhcp-a6ca.meeting.ietf.org ([31.133.166.202]) by mail1.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1XAOaL-000OgI-Ps; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:21:50 +0200 Message-ID: <53D15CC9.7070605@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:21:45 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Rosen References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD7626.2090908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <53CD7626.2090908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: p2psip@ietf.org Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/6i9M4N4MIlVIGbGFsj-U9FPz7Kg Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:21:55 -0000 Hi Brian, Carlos, so we checked back also with Marc about any late changes in RELOAD. There is nothing that puts SIP or ShaRE behind RELOAD. Both drafts are ready and wait for shepherding: they had WG reviews and implementations ... I believe they can just go. Thomas On 21.07.2014 16:20, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I'm not aware that the document is behind RELOAD - but we will check. > > I'll be back on this shortly. > > Thomas > > On 21.07.2014 16:10, Brian Rosen wrote: >> I understood differently. I understood the document to be behind the >> reality of RELOAD. >> >> If I’m incorrect, we certainly can shepherd it through the process. >> >> Brian >> >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess it >>> mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> >>> On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: >>>> If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it >>>> would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task of >>>> getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to abandon >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chairs, >>>>> >>>>> I wonder about moving this document? >>>>> >>>>> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for >>>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >>>>> >>>>> How are plans? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Thomas >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>> Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip >>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 >>>>> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >>>>> To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp >>>>> , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset >>>>> , Henning Schulzrinne >>>>> , Thomas Schmidt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your draft >>>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a >>>>> confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of >>>>> the draft. >>>>> >>>>> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the posting: >>>>> >>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d172f5975b09068/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>>> through the draft submission service >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt >>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner >>> Tor 7 ° >>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, >>> Germany ° >>> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: >>> +49-40-42875-8452 ° >>> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: >>> +49-40-42875-8409 ° >> > -- Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° From nobody Thu Jul 24 13:39:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09BC1B28D5 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.821 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bb591jifAmpw for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 698231B28D6 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id n3so4683980wiv.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=c0cwSEMOJ7Ykrwl/9G7AVZu0QsTBsPxZTry/65MecS4=; b=MAMk6q2bt1vBT8V1PZ0wZO/4n4vLZ2ep/02jUc96Y6ElHfbA7u7wsr9ZZVGEsMOZpz 7SYmN7p3+wrjWKUYtwoIsLqeqKZkh96q93EI9C7wCu/F2P+HQJTUBi1uTZ1uD0jBh8Mf pfsoFTDxJ4hn/yTubCvHIhvb4/8eHuJYJFUlzdZ6yUkK1+H/PfaRHqQhf4hwpntJ2bWf gKlbWFIBTnQEfMULg/UmdPoOGCZL/Xt0bQ1ZNrdvgrYDlB1X/nzYLUAxMQUHRxFh6Alt 18JNJSG/Mn+qNvtdX6FH5dCAH3olUTQO9C5hw8qW7mgUGqtxD7lgRXKOYZFCK8kTL9c3 CWCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnO0hPs23mdaNSlngs+2TycgsBpVJBnudi8Pvi5H6grgGbk2be1gvX7CzXXVQewVHwPBRQT X-Received: by 10.180.106.66 with SMTP id gs2mr16714706wib.5.1406234356880; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless-a-v6.meeting.ietf.org ([2001:67c:370:176:858c:7:8133:991d]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cz4sm27137017wib.23.2014.07.24.13.39.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Brian Rosen In-Reply-To: <53D15CC9.7070605@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:39:10 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F28B55E-8D50-49B3-945E-6A274CC83127@brianrosen.net> References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD7626.2090908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53D15CC9.7070605@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> To: "Thomas C. Schmidt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/UocmvvbW4tOtWWBkYl-x3S0iOr4 Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:39:22 -0000 That=92s great. We=92ll move the drafts forward. Brian On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt = wrote: > Hi Brian, Carlos, >=20 > so we checked back also with Marc about any late changes in RELOAD. = There is nothing that puts SIP or ShaRE behind RELOAD. >=20 > Both drafts are ready and wait for shepherding: they had WG reviews = and implementations ... I believe they can just go. >=20 > Thomas >=20 > On 21.07.2014 16:20, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: >> Hi Brian, >>=20 >> I'm not aware that the document is behind RELOAD - but we will check. >>=20 >> I'll be back on this shortly. >>=20 >> Thomas >>=20 >> On 21.07.2014 16:10, Brian Rosen wrote: >>> I understood differently. I understood the document to be behind = the >>> reality of RELOAD. >>>=20 >>> If I=92m incorrect, we certainly can shepherd it through the = process. >>>=20 >>> Brian >>>=20 >>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi Brian, >>>>=20 >>>> from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess = it >>>> mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>>=20 >>>> Thomas >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: >>>>> If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it >>>>> would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task = of >>>>> getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to = abandon >>>>> it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Brian >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Chairs, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I wonder about moving this document? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for >>>>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> How are plans? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Thomas >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>> Subject: Confirm submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip >>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 >>>>>> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >>>>>> To: Cullen Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp >>>>>> , Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset >>>>>> , Henning Schulzrinne >>>>>> , Thomas Schmidt >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your = draft >>>>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a >>>>>> confirmation step in order to be able to complete the posting of >>>>>> the draft. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the = posting: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> = http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d= 172f5975b09068/ >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>>>> through the draft submission service >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt >>>> =B0 Hamburg University of Applied Sciences = Berliner >>>> Tor 7 =B0 >>>> =B0 Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, >>>> Germany =B0 >>>> =B0 http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: >>>> +49-40-42875-8452 =B0 >>>> =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: >>>> +49-40-42875-8409 =B0 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt > =B0 Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner = Tor 7 =B0 > =B0 Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, = Germany =B0 > =B0 http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: = +49-40-42875-8452 =B0 > =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: = +49-40-42875-8409 =B0 From nobody Thu Jul 24 13:41:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33071B28DD for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.236 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.236 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuGTTrNjWg6e for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8221B28D6 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:5c0:1000:b::1bb5] (petithug.broker.freenet6.net [IPv6:2001:5c0:1000:b::1bb5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6928021676; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:41:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53D16F5F.1010002@acm.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:41:03 -0600 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas C. Schmidt" , Brian Rosen References: <20140721184000.22310.54252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53CD6050.2030206@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD6AC6.4040908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53CD7626.2090908@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <53D15CC9.7070605@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <53D15CC9.7070605@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/VlFyKLH-Efj6UT4LNCuWnUn-RRA Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] submission of I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:41:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Yes, I read again the lastest versions of p2psip-sip and p2psip-share, and did not find anything in them that is behind RFC 6940. On 07/24/2014 01:21 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > Hi Brian, Carlos, > > so we checked back also with Marc about any late changes in RELOAD. There > is nothing that puts SIP or ShaRE behind RELOAD. > > Both drafts are ready and wait for shepherding: they had WG reviews and > implementations ... I believe they can just go. > > Thomas > > On 21.07.2014 16:20, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >> I'm not aware that the document is behind RELOAD - but we will check. >> >> I'll be back on this shortly. >> >> Thomas >> >> On 21.07.2014 16:10, Brian Rosen wrote: >>> I understood differently. I understood the document to be behind the >>> reality of RELOAD. >>> >>> If I’m incorrect, we certainly can shepherd it through the process. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Brian, >>>> >>>> from my understanding, the document is finished in the WG. I guess >>>> it mainly needs a shepherd for going on, or what do you refer to? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Thomas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21.07.2014 15:26, Brian Rosen wrote: >>>>> If there is anyone with energy to finish this document, I think it >>>>> would be good to do so. But unless someone steps up to the task >>>>> of getting it done and through the process, I think we ought to >>>>> abandon it. >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chairs, >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder about moving this document? >>>>>> >>>>>> It has been ready in so loop since a long time ... same goes for >>>>>> draft-ietf-p2psip-share-03. >>>>>> >>>>>> How are plans? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thomas >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Confirm submission of >>>>>> I-D draft-ietf-p2psip-sip Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:40:00 -0700 >>>>>> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: Cullen >>>>>> Jennings , Bruce Lowekamp , >>>>>> Eric Rescorla , Salman Baset >>>>>> , Henning Schulzrinne >>>>>> , Thomas Schmidt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> The IETF datatracker draft submission service has received your >>>>>> draft draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13, and requires a confirmation step >>>>>> in order to be able to complete the posting of the draft. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please follow this link to the page where you can confirm the >>>>>> posting: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/61861/confirm/8fe6d2cf87c2c2b66d172f5975b09068/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJT0W9eAAoJECnERZXWan7Ei4EP/3feyjn7uRP1impVWfVrl8ac CTBsxEyp0ON0pBWonXSb2E9LsVeWWiUZZzLpk75mQeUgGMGu+EUZdH1DL0ip8pIW DgONGHwO5C/6gLaxkBSpX6/I/8L+jQY1go+oR4wLAiBI8L1E2XItnoEznNBDwUx0 W/m3PHPP5vqdrQTemLF8h7tmzwk1l269PROb4fS84TAZcjDx0edLWzYii3bfLMfi hngtRKhpbxpmCeS68C7GKqoue6dR7tEBbOPOazf0dRUpijMSBOKh5GZKBUQYrhqP sdClI6gBadb4uyxiJWkQK5qcX3LDK63zagBp+mw6oiNymwcagVVlgIxdQZ0lz8TP MgELcx3jsd11fO5BMQqqASdMlWAZC87r99T+sZAfFaRAAe7QWeAwMWxK1qUwmkKX HKlHylK9eIVnX1T5d0utS7/WKoQQmfZq4RjTCImbqJpyTp3Q2+8N49ExzaLgP6ln 1lvVcCjt//dan7H/sc40tjWs4QZvfDf/0BpThsTAGTrQzk/bEEwWToKuBKoX7Q0d Du6LeZRFp/3W/JvUVB+YkRgmIHv2fAF71CDbyvllVcclRbm9HtmM2+TQYwRmPgtC EPx1hmQ2tsscFTMtMVmtha164o4IJs/I8cywsi/+uh8OrHBFz1OlhR9ihxONuZ7V /HrKzN5KM+Fhr+xiusav =Pusk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Fri Jul 25 08:31:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6A51B2986; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:31:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EjmmciaJ29LZ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5E81B299A; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140725153110.17642.93929.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:31:10 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/1reO6FCeHMkVUdBKs9fj9jvgL4g Cc: p2psip chair , p2psip mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [P2PSIP] Protocol Action: 'Self-tuning Distributed Hash Table (DHT) for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD)' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning-15.txt) X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:31:14 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Self-tuning Distributed Hash Table (DHT) for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD)' (draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning-15.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Peer-to-Peer Session Initiation Protocol Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alissa Cooper and Richard Barnes. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-self-tuning/ Technical Summary: Peers in a RELOAD overlay network collectively run an overlay algorithm to organize the overlay, and to store and retrieve data. This document describes an extension to the default topology plugin of RELOAD to support self-tuning, meaning to make it capable of adapting to changing operating conditions such as churn and network size. Working Group Summary: The normal WG process was followed and the document has been discussed for several years. The document as it is now, reflects WG consensus, with nothing special worth noting. Document Quality: The document was thoroughly reviewed by Marc Petit-Huguenin and Carlos J. Bernardos. Personnel: Carlos J. Bernardos is the document shepherd. Alissa Cooper is the responsible area director. From nobody Fri Jul 25 09:50:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C851B290F for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:50:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ue7-0imx77yg for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.uc3m.es (smtp03.uc3m.es [163.117.176.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B9E61B27D8 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC63E11156AB; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:50:04 +0200 (CEST) X-uc3m-safe: yes X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [31.133.168.144] (dhcp-a890.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.168.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp03.uc3m.es) by smtp03.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3624B1185245; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:50:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1406307002.10492.15.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: p2psip@ietf.org Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:50:02 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-7.5.0.1018-20840.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.963-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--3.963-7.0-31-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/Dn7wN9n3vw7begSDqPr4GZK4AI8 Cc: p2psip-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13 X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:50:11 -0000 Hi, Hereby we are issuing a WGLC for draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13. We did one back in May 2013, so we want to ensure that everything is fine from the point of view of the WG. The WGLC will be open till the 8th of September, so we have time enough even there is August in the middle. We kindly ask the WG to review the document and provide comments. If you have no comments and think the document is ready to be submitted to IESG, please do send a note stating that to the WG ML. Additional information about the document is below: Title : A SIP Usage for RELOAD Authors : Cullen Jennings Bruce B. Lowekamp Eric Rescorla Salman A. Baset Henning Schulzrinne Thomas C. Schmidt Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2014-07-21 Abstract: This document defines a SIP Usage for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD). The SIP Usage provides the functionality of a SIP proxy or registrar in a fully-distributed system and includes a lookup service for Address of Records (AORs) stored in the overlay. It also defines Globally Routable User Agent Uris (GRUUs) that allow the registrations to map an AOR to a specific node reachable through the overlay. After such initial contact of a peer, the AppAttach method is used to establish a direct connection between nodes through which SIP messages are exchanged. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-sip/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-sip-13 Thanks -- Brian and Carlos From nobody Tue Jul 29 03:53:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: p2psip@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A851B27A6; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:53:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwpVdsDy1qb7; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EDB1B2795; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:53:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140729105332.22499.83870.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:53:32 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/p2psip/BvGRytyrwq43nC6GNk0BaC4huKc Cc: p2psip@ietf.org Subject: [P2PSIP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-14.txt X-BeenThere: p2psip@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Peer-to-Peer SIP working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:53:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Peer-to-Peer Session Initiation Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Service Discovery Usage for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD) Authors : Jouni Maenpaa Gonzalo Camarillo Filename : draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-14.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2014-07-29 Abstract: REsource LOcation and Discovery (RELOAD) does not define a generic service discovery mechanism as a part of the base protocol. This document defines how the Recursive Distributed Rendezvous (ReDiR) service discovery mechanism used in OpenDHT can be applied to RELOAD overlays to provide a generic service discovery mechanism. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-p2psip-service-discovery-14 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/