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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
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FYI,

There will be an IETF Hackathon in Prague, July 18-19. We are in the
process of determining the set of technologies included and are using
hackathon@ietf.org for all discussions related to the hackathon. I thought
this working group might be interested to work with RIOT and related
technologies at the hackathon. If so, please subscribe the list
(https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon) and participate in the
discussions there.

Cheers,
Charles


On 4/30/15, 1:02 PM, "Matthias Waehlisch" <m.waehlisch@fu-berlin.de> wrote:

>Hi Charles, all,
>
>  several people from the RIOT community (http://www.riot-os.org) will
>attend the upcoming IETF meeting and are pleased to work on IETF-related
>topics during the Hackathon. We plan to give an introduction to RIOT
>such that non-RIOTers can easily start with implementing their own ideas
>on this operating system for constrained devices.
>
>  So far we have the following champions assigned to topics:
>
>    (1) Lotte Steenbrink: update of AODVv2 (see draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2)
>  =20
>    (2) Hauke Petersen: CoAP for service discovery in the IoT (see
>draft-jimenez-p2psip-coap-reload)
>
>    (3) Martine Lenders: general IoT network stack and boarder gateway
>between the IoT and current Internet
>
>    (4) Kaspar Schleiser: ICN
>
>
>  Anybody who is interested in working on these topics is more than
>welcome to join! If you have your own topic and want to implement this
>on RIOT, let us know in advance and we will tailor introduction etc.
>
>
>
>Thanks
>  matthias
>
>--=20
>Matthias Waehlisch
>.  Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST
>.  Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany
>.. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl
>:. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net
>
>_______________________________________________
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>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Peer-to-Peer Session Initiation Protocol Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Concepts and Terminology for Peer to Peer SIP
        Authors         : David A. Bryan
                          Philip Matthews
                          Eunsoo Shim
                          Dean Willis
                          Spencer Dawkins
	Filename        : draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts-07.txt
	Pages           : 20
	Date            : 2015-05-08

Abstract:
   This document defines concepts and terminology for the use of the
   Session Initiation Protocol in a peer-to-peer environment where the
   traditional proxy-registrar and message routing functions are
   replaced by a distributed mechanism.  These mechanisms may be
   implemented using a distributed hash table or other distributed data
   mechanism with similar external properties.  This document includes a
   high-level view of the functional relationships between the network
   elements defined herein, a conceptual model of operations, and an
   outline of the related problems addressed by the P2PSIP working group
   and the RELOAD protocol and SIP usage ([RFC6940],
   [I-D.ietf-p2psip-sip]) defined by the working group.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts-07

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-p2psip-concepts-07


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Hi Thomas,

What is the status of this update?

Thanks,
Alissa

On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:09 AM, Thomas C. Schmidt =
<t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de> wrote:

> Hi Emmanuel,
>=20
> many thanks!
>=20
> We'll fix the issues and resubmit during the next few days.
>=20
> Best wishes,
>=20
> thomas
>=20
> On 23.04.2015 12:03, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>> Hi Alissa, Hi WG,
>>=20
>> I have reviewed draft-ietf-p2psip-share-05, and here are my comments.
>>=20
>>=20
>> General comments:
>> in my opinion the draft is in good shape and reads well. I have a few
>> nits and editorial suggestions detailed below. I believe these can be
>> addressed quite easily with a quick resubmission and my impression is
>> the doc is ready to go.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Detailed comments:
>>=20
>> in Section 1: refer to RFC6940 (and which section, if applicable) the
>> first time specific terms are used such as "RELOAD Usage" or "RELOAD
>> security model". Spoiler: I will have a lot of such comments below ;)
>>=20
>> in Section 2: for reader convenience, I suggest listing the key terms
>> (without recalling their definitions) imported from RFC6940, and the
>> p2psip-concepts draft in the paragraph right after the 2119 =
boilerplate.
>>=20
>> in Section 3.1: in step 3, I suggest being explicit that the 8bit =
part
>> is a suffix (least significant bits)
>>=20
>> in Section 4.1:
>> - "...Alice is also granted (limited) write access..."
>> Either explain what "limited" means here, or remove this adjective.
>>=20
>> - "Note that overwriting existing items in an Access Control List =
that
>> reference a    different Kind-ID..."
>> Clarify: different from what? I suppose you mean that the overwrite
>> results in changing the Kind-ID
>>=20
>> - "The Resource Owner is allowed to overwrite any existing ACL item, =
but
>> should be aware of its consequences."
>> Either quickly explain / give examples of consequences or remove this
>> sentence.
>>=20
>> in Section 5.1:  "The specifications in this document scheme adhere =
to
>> this paradigm...".
>> add reference to RFC6940 (and the exact section). It will help =
readers
>> grasp quicker what draft-ietf-p2psip-share specification adds here.
>>=20
>> in Section 6.1:
>> - first sentence "Write access ... solely be issued by the Resource =
Owner."
>> rephrase needed (confusing as readers already know that delegation is
>> possible).
>>=20
>> - "... stored in the numerical order... starting with the index of =
the
>> root item...".
>> I have a (stupid) question: What if the Node-ID of the an authorized
>> peer with ad=3D1 has a node-ID that is numerically smaller that that =
of
>> the owner?
>> I suggest rephrasing in order to clarify this corner case, just to =
make
>> sure no one is confused?
>>=20
>> in Section 6.5: Step 1. reference "as per RFC 6940 Section X.Y."
>>=20
>> in Section 6.6: Because it is possible here, I would have preferred =
to
>> see the last 2 paragraphs written in steps + pseudo-code style
>> if...else..else. But that's a matter of taste.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Best,
>>=20
>> Emmanuel
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in
>> <mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> wrote:
>>=20
>>    Yes, that=92s fine, thanks.
>>    Alissa
>>=20
>>    On Apr 21, 2015, at 1:40 AM, Emmanuel Baccelli
>>    <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr <mailto:Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr>> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>    >
>>    > Hi Alissa,
>>    >
>>    > if it is not too late: I am currently reviewing the document. =
ETA early next week.
>>    > Sorry for the delay. Is that alright with you?
>>    >
>>    > Best,
>>    >
>>    > Emmanuel
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >
>>    > _______________________________________________
>>    > P2PSIP mailing list
>>    >P2PSIP@ietf.org <mailto:P2PSIP@ietf.org>
>>    >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
> =B0 Hamburg University of Applied Sciences                   Berliner =
Tor 7 =B0
> =B0 Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group    20099 Hamburg, =
Germany =B0
> =B0 http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet                   Fon: =
+49-40-42875-8452 =B0
> =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt    Fax: =
+49-40-42875-8409 =B0
>=20
> _______________________________________________
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Hi Alissa,

it's coming ASAP. I was blocked by paper deadlines ...

Thanks,

  Thomas

On 11.05.2015 19:36, Alissa Cooper wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> What is the status of this update?
>
> Thanks,
> Alissa
>
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:09 AM, Thomas C. Schmidt <t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>
>> many thanks!
>>
>> We'll fix the issues and resubmit during the next few days.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> thomas
>>
>> On 23.04.2015 12:03, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>>> Hi Alissa, Hi WG,
>>>
>>> I have reviewed draft-ietf-p2psip-share-05, and here are my comments.
>>>
>>>
>>> General comments:
>>> in my opinion the draft is in good shape and reads well. I have a few
>>> nits and editorial suggestions detailed below. I believe these can be
>>> addressed quite easily with a quick resubmission and my impression is
>>> the doc is ready to go.
>>>
>>>
>>> Detailed comments:
>>>
>>> in Section 1: refer to RFC6940 (and which section, if applicable) the
>>> first time specific terms are used such as "RELOAD Usage" or "RELOAD
>>> security model". Spoiler: I will have a lot of such comments below ;)
>>>
>>> in Section 2: for reader convenience, I suggest listing the key terms
>>> (without recalling their definitions) imported from RFC6940, and the
>>> p2psip-concepts draft in the paragraph right after the 2119 boilerplate.
>>>
>>> in Section 3.1: in step 3, I suggest being explicit that the 8bit part
>>> is a suffix (least significant bits)
>>>
>>> in Section 4.1:
>>> - "...Alice is also granted (limited) write access..."
>>> Either explain what "limited" means here, or remove this adjective.
>>>
>>> - "Note that overwriting existing items in an Access Control List that
>>> reference a    different Kind-ID..."
>>> Clarify: different from what? I suppose you mean that the overwrite
>>> results in changing the Kind-ID
>>>
>>> - "The Resource Owner is allowed to overwrite any existing ACL item, but
>>> should be aware of its consequences."
>>> Either quickly explain / give examples of consequences or remove this
>>> sentence.
>>>
>>> in Section 5.1:  "The specifications in this document scheme adhere to
>>> this paradigm...".
>>> add reference to RFC6940 (and the exact section). It will help readers
>>> grasp quicker what draft-ietf-p2psip-share specification adds here.
>>>
>>> in Section 6.1:
>>> - first sentence "Write access ... solely be issued by the Resource Owner."
>>> rephrase needed (confusing as readers already know that delegation is
>>> possible).
>>>
>>> - "... stored in the numerical order... starting with the index of the
>>> root item...".
>>> I have a (stupid) question: What if the Node-ID of the an authorized
>>> peer with ad=1 has a node-ID that is numerically smaller that that of
>>> the owner?
>>> I suggest rephrasing in order to clarify this corner case, just to make
>>> sure no one is confused?
>>>
>>> in Section 6.5: Step 1. reference "as per RFC 6940 Section X.Y."
>>>
>>> in Section 6.6: Because it is possible here, I would have preferred to
>>> see the last 2 paragraphs written in steps + pseudo-code style
>>> if...else..else. But that's a matter of taste.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Emmanuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in
>>> <mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Yes, that’s fine, thanks.
>>>     Alissa
>>>
>>>     On Apr 21, 2015, at 1:40 AM, Emmanuel Baccelli
>>>     <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr <mailto:Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     >
>>>     > Hi Alissa,
>>>     >
>>>     > if it is not too late: I am currently reviewing the document. ETA early next week.
>>>     > Sorry for the delay. Is that alright with you?
>>>     >
>>>     > Best,
>>>     >
>>>     > Emmanuel
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > _______________________________________________
>>>     > P2PSIP mailing list
>>>     >P2PSIP@ietf.org <mailto:P2PSIP@ietf.org>
>>>     >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences                   Berliner Tor 7 °
>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group    20099 Hamburg, Germany °
>> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet                   Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 °
>> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt    Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 °
>>
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The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'A Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Usage for REsource LOcation
   And Discovery (RELOAD)'
  <draft-jimenez-p2psip-coap-reload-08.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-05-13. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
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Abstract


   This document defines a Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Usage
   for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD).  The CoAP Usage
   provides the functionality to federate Wireless Sensor Networks (WSN)
   in a peer-to-peer fashion.  The CoAP Usage for RELOAD allows CoAP
   nodes to store resources in a RELOAD peer-to-peer overlay, provides a
   lookup service, and enables the use of RELOAD overlay as a cache for
   sensor data.  This functionality is implemented in the RELOAD overlay
   itself, without the use of centralized servers.  The RELOAD AppAttach
   method is used to establish a direct connection between nodes through
   which CoAP messages are exchanged.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jimenez-p2psip-coap-reload/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jimenez-p2psip-coap-reload/ballot/


The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1783/




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