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Chairs, WG,

I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR that is relevant to this draft.

Thanks,

/Yimin Shen


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This is to start an IPR Poll for  draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon

Please can each of the authors reply to me and the PALS list stating that t=
hey know of no IPR that has not already been disclosed that is relevant to =
this draft.

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Good day,

I=B9m not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this draft.

Cordially,

Ed

>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:18 PM
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>Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon
>
>This is to start an IPR Poll for  draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon
>
>Please can each of the authors reply to me and the PALS list
>stating that they know of no IPR that has not already been
>disclosed that is relevant to this draft.
>
>Similarly please can any member of the PALS WG that
>knows of any relevant IPR also disclose it or state that
>they have started the disclosure process.
>
>I will close this poll on the later of: 13th April 2015 and when
>I have heard from all authors.
>
>Thanks
>
>Stewart
>
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I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR that is relevant to this draft.

B.R.
Weiqiang Cheng

>
>-----Original Message-----
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>
>This is to start an IPR Poll for  draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon
>
>Please can each of the authors reply to me and the PALS list
>stating that they know of no IPR that has not already been
>disclosed that is relevant to this draft.
>
>Similarly please can any member of the PALS WG that
>knows of any relevant IPR also disclose it or state that
>they have started the disclosure process.
>
>I will close this poll on the later of: 13th April 2015 and when
>I have heard from all authors.
>
>Thanks
>
>Stewart
>
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Folks,

We are about to provide version 01 to draft-brissette-pals-pw-fec-label-req=
uest-00.

I=91ll like to gather more feedback on this draft.
Please feel free to comment.


Regards,

Patrice

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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Guangtao&nbsp;&nbsp;Zhou</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Date:</B>&nbsp;2015-03-30&nbsp;22:17</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B>&nbsp;[Pals] IPR Poll=20
draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>This&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;start&nbsp;an&nbsp;IPR&nbsp;Poll&nbsp;for&n=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Please&nbsp;can&nbsp;each&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;authors&nbsp;reply&nb=
sp;to&nbsp;me&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;PALS&nbsp;list</DIV>
<DIV>stating&nbsp;that&nbsp;they&nbsp;know&nbsp;of&nbsp;no&nbsp;IPR&nbsp;t=
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<DIV>disclosed&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;relevant&nbsp;to&nbsp;this&nbsp;draf=
t.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Similarly&nbsp;please&nbsp;can&nbsp;any&nbsp;member&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&=
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<DIV>knows&nbsp;of&nbsp;any&nbsp;relevant&nbsp;IPR&nbsp;also&nbsp;disclose=
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<DIV>they&nbsp;have&nbsp;started&nbsp;the&nbsp;disclosure&nbsp;process.</D=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I&nbsp;will&nbsp;close&nbsp;this&nbsp;poll&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;late=
r&nbsp;of:&nbsp;13th&nbsp;April&nbsp;2015&nbsp;and&nbsp;when</DIV>
<DIV>I&nbsp;have&nbsp;heard&nbsp;from&nbsp;all&nbsp;authors.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
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<DIV>_______________________________________________</DIV>
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e:</b>&nbsp;2015-04-01&nbsp;09:21</div><div><b>To:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mai=
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=0A<div>Please can each of the authors reply to me and the PALS list</div>=
=0A<div>stating that they know of no IPR that has not already been</div>=
=0A<div>disclosed that is relevant to this draft.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div=
>=0A<div>Similarly please can any member of the PALS WG that</div>=0A<div>=
knows of any relevant IPR also disclose it or state that</div>=0A<div>they=
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<span></span>hi, everyone, in addition, I did not hear and know relevant I=
PR now.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Best Regards!</div><div>&nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
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sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Shen Chengbin&nbsp;</div><hr style=3D"width=
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=E7=BB=9C=E9=83=A8&nbsp;</div><div>=E5=9C=B0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =E5=9D=
=80=EF=BC=9A=E4=B8=8A=E6=B5=B7=E5=B8=82=E6=B5=A6=E4=B8=9C=E6=96=B0=E5=8C=
=BA=E6=B5=A6=E4=B8=9C=E5=8D=97=E8=B7=AF1835=E5=8F=B7</div><div>=E9=82=AE &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =E7=BC=96=EF=BC=9A200122</div><div>=E7=94=B5 &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; =E8=AF=9D=EF=BC=9A021-28970176</div><div>=E6=89=8B &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; =E6=9C=BA=EF=BC=9A18918588789</div><div>=E7=94=B5=E5=AD=90=E9=82=
=AE=E7=AE=B1=EF=BC=9Ashencb@sttri.com.cn</div><div><br></div><div>Champion=
(Chengbin) Shen <span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Director</span></div><div=
><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Ph.D, Senior Engineer (Professor Grade)<=
/span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Dept. of Infrastructure =
Networks</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Shanghai Resear=
ch Institute of China Telecom Corp. Ltd.</span></div><div><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12px;">Add: 1835 South Pudong Road, Shanghai, 200122, China</spa=
n></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">Tel : +86=
 21 28970176</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height:=
 18px;">Mobile: +86 18918588789</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12px; line-height: 18px;">E-mail: shencb@sttri.com.cn</span></div></span>=
</div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-=
left: 0.5em;"><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><div style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 8px;=
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GROUND: #efefef; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px"><div><b>From:</b>&=
nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:shencb@sttri.com.cn">shencb</a></div><div><b>Date:<=
/b>&nbsp;2015-04-10&nbsp;10:50</div><div><b>To:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto=
:jiangyuanlong@huawei.com">=E8=92=8Byuanlong</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:stbrya=
nt@cisco.com">stbryant</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon@tool=
s.ietf.org">draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon@tools.ietf.org</a></div><div><b>CC:</b=
>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a></div><div><b>Sub=
ject:</b>&nbsp;Re: RE: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon</div></div>=
</div><div><div class=3D"FoxDiv20150410105600581748">=0A<div><span></span>=
hi=EF=BC=8Ceveryone, I think the IPR is OK, too.</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp;Best Regards!</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Shen Ch=
engbin &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><br></div><hr style=
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">=0A<div><span>=E6=B2=88=E6=88=90=E5=BD=AC<span style=3D"font-size: 11px;=
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=E7=BD=91=E7=BB=9C=E9=83=A8&nbsp;</div><div>=E5=9C=B0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
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=82=AE &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =E7=BC=96=EF=BC=9A200122</div><div>=E7=94=B5 &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =E8=AF=9D=EF=BC=9A021-28970176</div><div>=E6=89=8B &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =E6=9C=BA=EF=BC=9A18918588789</div><div>=E7=94=B5=E5=AD=
=90=E9=82=AE=E7=AE=B1=EF=BC=9Ashencb@sttri.com.cn</div><div><br></div><div=
>Champion(Chengbin) Shen <span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Director</span><=
/div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Ph.D, Senior Engineer (Professo=
r Grade)</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Dept. of Infras=
tructure Networks</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Shangh=
ai Research Institute of China Telecom Corp. Ltd.</span></div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12px;">Add: 1835 South Pudong Road, Shanghai, 200122, C=
hina</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">=
Tel : +86 21 28970176</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12px; lin=
e-height: 18px;">Mobile: +86 18918588789</span></div><div><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">E-mail: shencb@sttri.com.cn</span></di=
v></span></div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px=
; margin-left: 0.5em;"><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"border:none;border-t=
op:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><div style=3D"PADDING-RI=
GHT: 8px; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 12px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:#000=
000; BACKGROUND: #efefef; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px"><div><b>F=
rom:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:jiangyuanlong@huawei.com">Jiangyuanlong</a=
></div><div><b>Date:</b>&nbsp;2015-04-01&nbsp;09:21</div><div><b>To:</b>&n=
bsp;<a href=3D"mailto:stbryant@cisco.com">stbryant@cisco.com</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon@tools.ietf.org">draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon=
@tools.ietf.org</a></div><div><b>CC:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.=
org">pals@ietf.org</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;RE: [Pals] IPR Poll =
draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon</div></div></div><div><div>Hi all,</div>=0A<div>&n=
bsp;</div>=0A<div>I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR relevant to this d=
raft. </div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Regards,</div>=0A<div>Yuanlong</di=
v>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>-----Original Message-----</div>=0A<div>From=
: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant</div>=0A=
<div>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:18 PM</div>=0A<div>To: draft-jiang-pw=
e3-mc-pon@tools.ietf.org</div>=0A<div>Cc: pals@ietf.org</div>=0A<div>Subje=
ct: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<d=
iv>This is to start an IPR Poll for&nbsp; draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon</div>=0A=
<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Please can each of the authors reply to me and th=
e PALS list</div>=0A<div>stating that they know of no IPR that has not alr=
eady been</div>=0A<div>disclosed that is relevant to this draft.</div>=0A<=
div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Similarly please can any member of the PALS WG tha=
t</div>=0A<div>knows of any relevant IPR also disclose it or state that</d=
iv>=0A<div>they have started the disclosure process.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</=
div>=0A<div>I will close this poll on the later of: 13th April 2015 and wh=
en</div>=0A<div>I have heard from all authors.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=
=0A<div>Thanks</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Stewart</div>=0A<div>&nbsp=
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This mail starts an IPR poll on
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 in preparation
for WG last call.

Authors and contributors, are you aware of any IPR that applies
to draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
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Not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Sam

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Andy,
I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks,
Mannan

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This mail starts an IPR poll on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-=
mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 in preparation for WG last call.

Authors and contributors, are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ie=
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If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
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If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
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contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
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I am not aware of any IPR.
Himanshu
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Andy,
I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks,
Mannan

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same here.

Thanks,

Sami
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I am not aware of any IPR.
Himanshu
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Andy,
I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks,
Mannan

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Authors and contributors, are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ie=
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same here.
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div>Sami<br>
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<div>On Apr 14, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Shah, Himanshu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hsha=
h@ciena.com">hshah@ciena.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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I am not aware of any IPR.<br>
Himanshu<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Venkatesan, Mannan [<a href=3D"mailto:Mannan_Venkatesan@Cable.Comcast=
.com">Mannan_Venkatesan@Cable.Comcast.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:27 AM<br>
To: Andrew G. Malis;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>;<span class=3D"Apple-convert=
ed-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@too=
ls.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00<br>
<br>
Andy,<br>
I am not aware of any IPR.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mannan<br>
<br>
From: &quot;Andrew G. Malis&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">=
agmalis@gmail.com</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">mailto:agmali=
s@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:43 AM<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:pals@ietf.org">mailto:pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">ma=
ilto:pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpl=
s-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</=
a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">mail=
to:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">draft=
-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-iet=
f-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd=
@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00<br>
Resent-From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">agmalis@gmail.com</a>=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">mailto:agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt;&g=
t;<br>
Resent-To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org">d=
raft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-=
pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org">mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.or=
g</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
Resent-Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:44 AM<br>
<br>
This mail starts an IPR poll on <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft=
-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00">
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00</a> in prepara=
tion for WG last call.<br>
<br>
Authors and contributors, are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ie=
tf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00?<br>
<br>
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules<br>
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<br>
<br>
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to<br>
this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant<br>
IPR. The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list. The<br>
document will not advance to the next stage until a response<br>
has been received from each author and each contributor.<br>
<br>
If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or<br>
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any<br=
>
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.<br>
<br>
We will close this poll on 4th &nbsp;April 2015 or later if we have not hea=
rd from<br>
all authors/contributors by then.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Andy and Stewart<br>
<br>
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Pals mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Pals@ietf.org">Pals@ietf.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals">https://www.ietf.org=
/mailman/listinfo/pals</a></div>
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Authors

There is WG consensus to adopt this draft, but it should be
an Informational RFC.

Please change the track to Informational and resubmit as

draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection

Thanks

- Stewart


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Authors

There is WG consensus to adopt this draft.

Please resubmit as

draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination

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- Stewart


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This is to start a two week WG poll to determine whether
we should adopt

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon-03

This poll will close on  29th April 2015

- Stewart


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Stewart,

Shouldn't the draft file name be:

draft-pals-ietf-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination  ?

/Loa


On 2015-04-14 19:00, Stewart Bryant wrote:
> Authors
>
> There is WG consensus to adopt this draft.
>
> Please resubmit as
>
> draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination
>
> Thanks
>
> - Stewart
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Loa and Stewart,

Actually, you're both a bit wrong :-), it should be
draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination.

Cheers,
Andy

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:

> Stewart,
>
> Shouldn't the draft file name be:
>
> draft-pals-ietf-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination  ?
>
> /Loa
>
>
>
> On 2015-04-14 19:00, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>
>> Authors
>>
>> There is WG consensus to adopt this draft.
>>
>> Please resubmit as
>>
>> draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> - Stewart
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pals mailing list
>> Pals@ietf.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Loa and Stewart,<div><br></div><div>Actually, you&#39;re b=
oth a bit wrong :-), it should be=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:13px">draft=
-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-</span><u style=3D"font-size:13px"></u><span style=
=3D"font-size:13px">homing</span><span style=3D"font-size:13px">-coordinati=
on.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><=
span style=3D"font-size:13px">Cheers,</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-=
size:13px">Andy</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Loa Andersson <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu" target=3D"_blank">loa@pi.nu</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Stewart,<br>
<br>
Shouldn&#39;t the draft file name be:<br>
<br>
draft-pals-ietf-mpls-tp-dual-<u></u>homing-coordination=C2=A0 ?<br>
<br>
/Loa<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 2015-04-14 19:00, Stewart Bryant wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Authors<br>
<br>
There is WG consensus to adopt this draft.<br>
<br>
Please resubmit as<br>
<br>
draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-<u></u>homing-coordination<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
- Stewart<br>
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This should be draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection.

Cheers,
Andy


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> Authors
>
> There is WG consensus to adopt this draft, but it should be
> an Informational RFC.
>
> Please change the track to Informational and resubmit as
>
> draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This should be=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:13px">draft-i=
etf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-</span><u style=3D"font-size:13px"></u><span style=3D=
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span><br style=3D"font-size:13px"><div><span style=3D"font-size:13px"><br><=
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ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stbryant@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">stbryant@c=
isco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Authors<=
br>
<br>
There is WG consensus to adopt this draft, but it should be<br>
an Informational RFC.<br>
<br>
Please change the track to Informational and resubmit as<br>
<br>
draft-pals-mpls-tp-dual-<u></u>homing-protection<br>
<br>
Thanks<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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Thread-Topic: [Pals] Poll to determine consensus for adoption of draft-cheng-pwe3-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination as WG draft
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This is to start a two week WG poll to determine whether we should adopt

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This poll will close on  29th April 2015

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Dual-Homing Coordination for MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires Protection
        Authors         : Weiqiang Cheng
                          Lei Wang
                          Han Li
                          Kai Liu
                          Shahram Davari
                          Jie Dong
                          Alessandro D'Alessandro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-00.txt
	Pages           : 13
	Date            : 2015-04-15

Abstract:
   In some scenarios, the MPLS Trasport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires
   (PWs) are provisioned through either static configuration or
   management plane, where a dynamic control plane is not available.  A
   fast protection mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs is needed to protect
   against the failure of Attachment Circuit (AC), the failure of
   Provider Edge (PE) and also the failure in the Packet Switched
   Network (PSN).  The framework and scenarios for dual-homing
   pseudowire (PW) local protection are described in [draft-ietf-pals-
   mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection].  This document proposes a dual-
   homing coordination mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs, which is used for
   state exchange and coordination between the dual-homing PEs for dual-
   homing PW local protection.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Dual-Homing Protection for MPLS and MPLS-TP Pseudowires
        Authors         : Weiqiang Cheng
                          Lei Wang
                          Han Li
                          Kai Liu
                          Shahram Davari
                          Jie Dong
                          Alessandro D'Alessandro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-00.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2015-04-15

Abstract:
   This document describes a framework and several scenarios for
   pseudowire (PW) dual-homing local protection.  A Dual-Node
   Interconncetion (DNI) PW is provisioned between the dual-homing
   Provider Edge (PE) nodes for carrying traffic when failure accurs in
   the Attachment Circuit (AC) or PW side.  In order for the dual-homing
   PE nodes to determine the forwarding state of AC, PW and the DNI PW,
   necessary state exchange and coordination between the dual-homing PEs
   are needed.  The PW dual-homing local protection mechanism is
   complementary to the existing PW protection mechanisms.



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Hello all,
  Including the L2TP list for comments from them on the two drafts describe=
d in the email below. A gentle reminder to the pals and bfd WG lists. Pleas=
e note that some discussion when these drafts were presented at PALS and BF=
D WG at Dallas (IETF-92).=20

Thanks
Prasad

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Subject: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts

Hello all,
   We have submitted two new drafts:
a. draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv: This draft defines the SBFD protocol operat=
ion for VCCV.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv/

b. draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator: This draft defines AVPs for adverti=
sement of SBFD discriminators in L2TP.

We welcome comments/ feedback on these drafts.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/

Thanks
Prasad


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Hello Yuanlong,
The intent of these drafts is not to deprecate BFD with SBFD but make them =
co-existent. A guideline section will be included in the next revision as y=
ou suggest. Thanks for your suggestion and apologies for the delay in the r=
eply.
Thanks to Andy Malis for pointing out the same.
Thanks
Prasad

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Subject: RE: Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts

Hi Stewart, Jeffrey and other authors,

If the purpose of this draft is not to deprecate the original VCCV BFD (0x1=
0) function for MPLS PW, please make it clear:
- One option is clearly removing MPLS/PW-ACH Encapsulation from SBFD so tha=
t BFD and SBFD complement with each other.
- Another option is as the document describes, the same MPLS/PW is supporte=
d by both SBFD and original BFD, then a guideline section is needed so that=
 consistent BFD type (SBFD or original BFD) can be chosen by the peer PEs (=
e.g., both BFD types are supported by two PEs associated with a specific BF=
D session).

Regards,
Yuanlong

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Subject: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts

Hello all,
   We have submitted two new drafts:
a. draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv: This draft defines the SBFD protocol operat=
ion for VCCV.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv/

b. draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator: This draft defines AVPs for adverti=
sement of SBFD discriminators in L2TP.

We welcome comments/ feedback on these drafts.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/

Thanks
Prasad


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) over Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
        Authors         : Olivier Dornon
                          Jayant Kotalwar
                          Venu Hemige
                          Ray Qiu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-00.txt
	Pages           : 40
	Date            : 2015-04-21

Abstract:
   This document describes the procedures and recommendations for
   Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Provider Edges (PEs) to facilitate
   replication of multicast traffic to only certain ports (behind which
   there are interested Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) routers
   and/or Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) hosts) via Protocol
   Independent Multicast (PIM) snooping and proxying.

   With PIM snooping, PEs passively listen to certain PIM control
   messages to build control and forwarding states while transparently
   flooding those messages.  With PIM proxying, Provider Edges (PEs) do
   not flood PIM Join/Prune messages but only generate their own and
   send out of certain ports, based on the control states built from
   downstream Join/Prune messages.  PIM proxying is required when PIM
   Join suppression is enabled on the Customer Equipment (CE) devices
   and useful to reduce PIM control traffic in a VPLS domain.

   The document also describes PIM relay, which can be viewed as light-
   weight proxying, where all downstream Join/Prune messages are simply
   forwarded out of certain ports but not flooded to avoid triggering
   PIM Join suppression on CE devices.



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I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks,
Siva

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Subject: Re: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00

same here.

Thanks,

Sami
On Apr 14, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com<mailto:hshah@c=
iena.com>> wrote:


I am not aware of any IPR.
Himanshu
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Subject: Re: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00

Andy,
I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks,
Mannan

From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com<mailto:agmalis@gmail.com><mailto=
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Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:43 AM
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This mail starts an IPR poll on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-=
mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 in preparation for WG last call.

Authors and contributors, are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ie=
tf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list. The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response
has been received from each author and each contributor.

If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

We will close this poll on 4th  April 2015 or later if we have not heard fr=
om
all authors/contributors by then.

Thanks,
Andy and Stewart

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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sami Boutros (sboutros)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shah, Himanshu<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Venkatesan, Mannan; Andrew G. Malis; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac=
-wd@tools.ietf.org; pals@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">same here. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sami<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Apr 14, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Shah, Himanshu &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:hshah@ciena.com">hshah@ciena.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p=
>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt">I am not aware of an=
y IPR.<br>
Himanshu<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Venkatesan, Mannan [<a href=3D"mailto:Mannan_Venkatesan@Cable.Comcast=
.com">Mannan_Venkatesan@Cable.Comcast.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:27 AM<br>
To: Andrew G. Malis;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>;<span class=3D"apple-convert=
ed-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@too=
ls.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00<br>
<br>
Andy,<br>
I am not aware of any IPR.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mannan<br>
<br>
From: &quot;Andrew G. Malis&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">=
agmalis@gmail.com</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">mailto:agmali=
s@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:43 AM<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:pals@ietf.org">mailto:pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">ma=
ilto:pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpl=
s-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</=
a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">mail=
to:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">draft=
-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-iet=
f-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org">mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd=
@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00<br>
Resent-From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">agmalis@gmail.com</a>=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">mailto:agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt;&g=
t;<br>
Resent-To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org">d=
raft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-=
pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org">mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.or=
g</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
Resent-Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:44 AM<br>
<br>
This mail starts an IPR poll on <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft=
-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00">
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00</a> in prepara=
tion for WG last call.<br>
<br>
Authors and contributors, are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ie=
tf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00?<br>
<br>
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules<br>
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<br>
<br>
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to<br>
this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant<br>
IPR. The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list. The<br>
document will not advance to the next stage until a response<br>
has been received from each author and each contributor.<br>
<br>
If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or<br>
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any<br=
>
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.<br>
<br>
We will close this poll on 4th &nbsp;April 2015 or later if we have not hea=
rd from<br>
all authors/contributors by then.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Andy and Stewart<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Pals mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Pals@ietf.org">Pals@ietf.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals">https://www.ietf.org=
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This beings a two-week WG LC for
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00, to complete
on May 6. Please send your comments on the draft to the PALS WG (just
replying to this email would be best).

Thanks,
Andy

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ols.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00">http://tools.ietf.org/=
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nd your comments on the draft to the PALS WG (just replying to this email w=
ould be best).<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></di=
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FYI, in case you want to make travel plans to arrive in Prague in time for
this session.

Cheers,
Andy

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FYI.http://www.ietf.org/meeting/93/tutorials/yang-session.html

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<div dir=3D"ltr">FYI, in case you want to make travel plans to arrive in Pr=
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            <td>Benoit Claise <a href=3D"mailto:bclaise@cisco.com" target=
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<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/meeting/93/tutorials/yang-session.html" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/meeting/93/tutorials/yang-session.html</a=
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Support.=20

In the review, I came across a minor issue in Section 4, which says:"If VCC=
V CC type 3 "TTL Expiry" is
   to be used, the hop count from one T-PE to the remote T-PE needs to
   be obtained in advance.  This can be achieved either by control plane
   SP-PE TLVs or through data plane tracing of the MS-PW."
But the document also says PW-Seg1 can be statically configured.=20
In that case, provisioning it in the management plane may be more preferabl=
e.
The authors may consider it together with other inputs after the last call.

Thanks,
Yuanlong



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires
        Authors         : Andrew G. Malis
                          Loa Andersson
                          Huub van Helvoort
                          Jongyoon Shin
                          Lei Wang
                          Alessandro D'Alessandro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-01.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2015-04-22

Abstract:
   In MPLS and MPLS-TP environments, statically provisioned Single-
   Segment Pseudowires (SS-PWs) are protected against tunnel failure via
   MPLS-level and MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection.  With statically
   provisioned Multi-Segment Pseudowires (MS-PWs), each segment of the
   MS-PW is likewise protected from tunnel failures via MPLS-level and
   MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection.  However, static MS-PWs are not
   protected end-to-end against failure of one of the switching PEs
   (S-PEs) along the path of the MS-PW.  This document describes how to
   achieve this protection via redundant MS-PWs by updating the existing
   procedures in RFC 6870.  It also contains an optional approach based
   on MPLS-TP Linear Protection.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Stewart,

draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection has been updated to reflect all comments
received to date. The updates were in response to requests to clarify the
text in several places, there were no substantive technical changes. The
changes can be viewed at
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The authors are in agreement that with these changes, the draft is now
ready for WG LC.

Thanks,
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Stewart,<div><br></div><div>draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protecti=
on has been updated to reflect all comments received to date. The updates w=
ere in response to requests to clarify the text in several places, there we=
re no substantive technical changes. The changes can be viewed at=C2=A0<a h=
ref=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protecti=
on-01.txt">https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-prot=
ection-01.txt</a> .</div><div><br></div><div>The authors are in agreement t=
hat with these changes, the draft is now ready for WG LC.=C2=A0<br></div><d=
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Hi Yuanlong,=20

Thanks for your comments.=20

If some PW segments are statically configured, I agree that for VCCV CC typ=
e 3 some local policy may be needed to set the TTL properly.

Besides, as said in section 4, MS-PW path trace may be used to obtain the i=
nformation needed for MS-PW connectivity verification. The details are spec=
ified in RFC 6073.

Best regards,
Jie

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> Support.
>=20
> In the review, I came across a minor issue in Section 4, which says:"If V=
CCV CC
> type 3 "TTL Expiry" is
>    to be used, the hop count from one T-PE to the remote T-PE needs to
>    be obtained in advance.  This can be achieved either by control plane
>    SP-PE TLVs or through data plane tracing of the MS-PW."
> But the document also says PW-Seg1 can be statically configured.
> In that case, provisioning it in the management plane may be more prefera=
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This is a very useful wiki page, please see Lou's introduction below.
Thanks to Lou for putting this together.

Cheers,
Andy

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All,
    I thought it might be useful to document some topics that repeatedly
get discussed during document reviews.  I started an "informal" wiki on
the topic. It is located at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/teas/trac/wiki/PSGuidelines . Please take
a look at, comment/modify as you see fit.

As chair,

I ask that all WG authors review this guidance in anticipation of
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This is a very useful wiki page, please see Lou&#39;s intr=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I thought it might be useful to document some topics that rep=
eatedly<br>
get discussed during document reviews.=C2=A0 I started an &quot;informal&qu=
ot; wiki on<br>
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a look at, comment/modify as you see fit.<br>
<br>
As chair,<br>
<br>
I ask that all WG authors review this guidance in anticipation of<br>
comment topics you&#39;re likely to see before/during WG LC.<br>
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I have read the current version. Support.

I have a bit concern: shall we replace the two "may" in Section 3 with "MAY=
" or "SHOULD"?

In the abstract: s/[RFC6870]/RFC 6870/
In the introduction: s/[RFC3985]applications/[RFC3985] applications/

Thanks,
Mingui

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>This email starts the WG last call on draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>
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The sentence is

     S-PE1 may
    advertise the updated SP-PE TLVs [RFC6073] using Label Mapping
    message to T-PE1.

So what are we saying here?

That S-PE1 has a number of ways of doing the advertisement of
which RFC6073 is one way

or

That S-PE1 can choose whether of not it does the advertisement

or

Do we really mean MUST in some way?

Stewart



On 24/04/2015 11:00, Mingui Zhang wrote:
> I have read the current version. Support.
>
> I have a bit concern: shall we replace the two "may" in Section 3 with "MAY" or "SHOULD"?
>
> In the abstract: s/[RFC6870]/RFC 6870/
> In the introduction: s/[RFC3985]applications/[RFC3985] applications/
>
> Thanks,
> Mingui
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:51 AM
>> To: pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
>> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci; pals-ads;
>> Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
>> Subject: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>>
>>
>> This email starts the WG last call on draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>>
>> This document can be found at
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/
>>
>> Last call will close on 29th April 2015
>>
>> - Stewart
>>
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Hi Stewart,=20

Thanks a lot for your comments. I agree that here "may" is a little confusi=
ng.=20

It intends to mean "MUST" when the S-PE supports the SP-PE TLV processing. =
The reason we used "MAY" was considering S-PEs which do not support SP-PE T=
LVs operation. I think we can rephrase it with "SHOULD" or "MUST". Which on=
e do you prefer?

Best regards,
Jie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@cisco.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:19 PM
> To: Mingui Zhang; pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci; pals-ads;
> Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
> Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>=20
> The sentence is
>=20
>      S-PE1 may
>     advertise the updated SP-PE TLVs [RFC6073] using Label Mapping
>     message to T-PE1.
>=20
> So what are we saying here?
>=20
> That S-PE1 has a number of ways of doing the advertisement of which RFC60=
73
> is one way
>=20
> or
>=20
> That S-PE1 can choose whether of not it does the advertisement
>=20
> or
>=20
> Do we really mean MUST in some way?
>=20
> Stewart
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 24/04/2015 11:00, Mingui Zhang wrote:
> > I have read the current version. Support.
> >
> > I have a bit concern: shall we replace the two "may" in Section 3 with =
"MAY"
> or "SHOULD"?
> >
> > In the abstract: s/[RFC6870]/RFC 6870/ In the introduction:
> > s/[RFC3985]applications/[RFC3985] applications/
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mingui
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:51 AM
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> >> pals-ads; Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
> >> Subject: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
> >>
> >>
> >> This email starts the WG last call on draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
> >>
> >> This document can be found at
> >>
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/
> >>
> >> Last call will close on 29th April 2015
> >>
> >> - Stewart
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Hi Mingui,=20

Thanks for your comments.=20

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>=20
> I have read the current version. Support.
>=20
> I have a bit concern: shall we replace the two "may" in Section 3 with "M=
AY" or
> "SHOULD"?

We also received some comments offline of changing the "may", or "SHOULD" i=
n this document to "MUST". We will revise the draft according to your comme=
nts and use appropriate Requirements Language.


> In the abstract: s/[RFC6870]/RFC 6870/
> In the introduction: s/[RFC3985]applications/[RFC3985] applications/

Will fix in the new revision. Thanks.

Best regards,
Jie

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> Thanks,
> Mingui
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> >
> >
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Without looking at the context I would say something like:

Jie

Without looking at the original text to refine the
sentence, I would probably say something like:

If S-PE1 supports the SP-PE TLV processing, it SHOULD
advertise the updated SP-PE TLVs [RFC6073] by sending
a Label Mapping message to T-PE1.

- Stewart



On 27/04/2015 04:24, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote:
> Hi Stewart,
>
> Thanks a lot for your comments. I agree that here "may" is a little confusing.
>
> It intends to mean "MUST" when the S-PE supports the SP-PE TLV processing. The reason we used "MAY" was considering S-PEs which do not support SP-PE TLVs operation. I think we can rephrase it with "SHOULD" or "MUST". Which one do you prefer?
>
> Best regards,
> Jie
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:19 PM
>> To: Mingui Zhang; pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
>> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci; pals-ads;
>> Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
>> Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>>
>> The sentence is
>>
>>       S-PE1 may
>>      advertise the updated SP-PE TLVs [RFC6073] using Label Mapping
>>      message to T-PE1.
>>
>> So what are we saying here?
>>
>> That S-PE1 has a number of ways of doing the advertisement of which RFC6073
>> is one way
>>
>> or
>>
>> That S-PE1 can choose whether of not it does the advertisement
>>
>> or
>>
>> Do we really mean MUST in some way?
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24/04/2015 11:00, Mingui Zhang wrote:
>>> I have read the current version. Support.
>>>
>>> I have a bit concern: shall we replace the two "may" in Section 3 with "MAY"
>> or "SHOULD"?
>>> In the abstract: s/[RFC6870]/RFC 6870/ In the introduction:
>>> s/[RFC3985]applications/[RFC3985] applications/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mingui
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:51 AM
>>>> To: pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
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>>>> pals-ads; Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
>>>> Subject: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This email starts the WG last call on draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>>>>
>>>> This document can be found at
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/
>>>>
>>>> Last call will close on 29th April 2015
>>>>
>>>> - Stewart
>>>>
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Support the adoption, as a co-auther.


Thanks,

/Yimin Shen


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Subject: [Pals] Should the PALS WG adopt draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon?

This is to start a two week WG poll to determine whether we should adopt

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon-03

This poll will close on  29th April 2015

- Stewart

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Hi Stewart,=20

Thanks a lot for your suggestion.=20

We will update the sentence accordingly in next revision.

Best regards,
Jie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@cisco.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:59 PM
> To: Dongjie (Jimmy); Mingui Zhang; pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.=
org;
> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci; pals-ads;
> Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
> Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
>=20
> Without looking at the context I would say something like:
>=20
> Jie
>=20
> Without looking at the original text to refine the sentence, I would prob=
ably say
> something like:
>=20
> If S-PE1 supports the SP-PE TLV processing, it SHOULD advertise the updat=
ed
> SP-PE TLVs [RFC6073] by sending a Label Mapping message to T-PE1.
>=20
> - Stewart
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 27/04/2015 04:24, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote:
> > Hi Stewart,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your comments. I agree that here "may" is a little con=
fusing.
> >
> > It intends to mean "MUST" when the S-PE supports the SP-PE TLV processi=
ng.
> The reason we used "MAY" was considering S-PEs which do not support SP-PE
> TLVs operation. I think we can rephrase it with "SHOULD" or "MUST". Which
> one do you prefer?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jie
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@cisco.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:19 PM
> >> To: Mingui Zhang; pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
> >> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci;
> >> pals-ads; Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
> >> Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
> >>
> >> The sentence is
> >>
> >>       S-PE1 may
> >>      advertise the updated SP-PE TLVs [RFC6073] using Label Mapping
> >>      message to T-PE1.
> >>
> >> So what are we saying here?
> >>
> >> That S-PE1 has a number of ways of doing the advertisement of which
> >> RFC6073 is one way
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> That S-PE1 can choose whether of not it does the advertisement
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> Do we really mean MUST in some way?
> >>
> >> Stewart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 24/04/2015 11:00, Mingui Zhang wrote:
> >>> I have read the current version. Support.
> >>>
> >>> I have a bit concern: shall we replace the two "may" in Section 3 wit=
h
> "MAY"
> >> or "SHOULD"?
> >>> In the abstract: s/[RFC6870]/RFC 6870/ In the introduction:
> >>> s/[RFC3985]applications/[RFC3985] applications/
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Mingui
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart
> >>>> Bryant
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:51 AM
> >>>> To: pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
> >>>> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci;
> >>>> pals-ads; Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
> >>>> Subject: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This email starts the WG last call on
> >>>> draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe
> >>>>
> >>>> This document can be found at
> >>>>
> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/
> >>>>
> >>>> Last call will close on 29th April 2015
> >>>>
> >>>> - Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Pals mailing list
> >>>> Pals@ietf.org
> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals
> >>> .
> >>>
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> > .
> >
>=20
>=20
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The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection have requested
that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following
established practice I first need to determine whether there
is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.

Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG
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WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.

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I have some comments on draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection

1) I am not sure whether this is standards track or not. I does not
really specify a new protocol, it just describes how you would use
an existing protocol in a new environment. It seems to me that
this should either be an informational or perhaps an applicability
statement.

2) If this were ST, then I think it would be useful to clarify that
Appendix 1 is not normative.

3) I count six authors,  hopefully you can justify this to the IESG
if asked.

- Stewart


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Stewart,

I am not aware of any IPR regarding this draft.

Thanks,
Andy

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote:

>  The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection have requested
> that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following
> established practice I first need to determine whether there
> is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.
>
> Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG
> in the CC list indicating whether or not you know of any
> not yet disclosed IPR that is applicable.
>
> WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.
>
> This poll will end 12 May 2015, or when I have heard from all
> authors, which ever is later.
>
> Thanks
>
> Stewart
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Stewart,<div><br></div><div>I am not aware of any IPR rega=
rding this draft.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Andy</div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28,=
 2015 at 2:07 PM, Stewart Bryant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:st=
bryant@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">stbryant@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection have requested<br>
    that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following<br>
    established practice I first need to determine whether there<br>
    is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.<br>
    <br>
    Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG<br>
    in the CC list indicating whether or not you know of any<br>
    not yet disclosed IPR that is applicable.<br>
    <br>
    WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.<br>
    <br>
    This poll will end 12 May 2015, or when I have heard from all<br>
    authors, which ever is later.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
    <br>
    Stewart<br>
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Stewart,

Thanks for your comments.

1) Regarding standards track, this was discussed during the WG adoption
poll. At that time, Greg Mirsky wrote:


Firstly, I support adoption of this document by the WG.
Second, considering that the document doesn=E2=80=99t put forth any IANA re=
quests,
nor changes any earlier defined procedures but rather document
applicability of the RFC 6478, would authors consider Informational track
for this document?


To which I replied:

Thanks for your support, and yes we would, although we prefer standards
track so that it would be marked as "Updates 6870" in the RFC database, so
anyone implementing 6870 will also read it, and a reference added if
there's ever a 6870-bis.


This answer still holds, since it extends the applicability of RFC 6870,
making it standards track insures that future readers of 6870 should also
read it. I don't think that would be the case were it informational.

We (the authors) are of course willing to further discuss this, we just
want to make sure that it get the proper visibility to readers of 6870.

2) Appendix 1 is already clear that it is optional, it's right in the title
as well as the final paragraph of section A.1, and in the abstract at the
top of the draft as well. However, let us know if you have any specific
changes you would like to see in the text.

3) I'll poll the authors about this.

Thanks again,
Andy


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote:

> I have some comments on draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection
>
> 1) I am not sure whether this is standards track or not. I does not
> really specify a new protocol, it just describes how you would use
> an existing protocol in a new environment. It seems to me that
> this should either be an informational or perhaps an applicability
> statement.
>
> 2) If this were ST, then I think it would be useful to clarify that
> Appendix 1 is not normative.
>
> 3) I count six authors,  hopefully you can justify this to the IESG
> if asked.
>
> - Stewart
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pals mailing list
> Pals@ietf.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Stewart,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your comments.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>1) Regarding standards track, this was discuss=
ed during the WG adoption poll. At that time, Greg Mirsky wrote:</div><bloc=
kquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><br></div><=
div><div>Firstly, I support adoption of this document by the WG.</div></div=
><div><div>Second, considering that the document doesn=E2=80=99t put forth =
any IANA requests, nor changes any earlier defined procedures but rather do=
cument applicability of the RFC 6478, would authors consider Informational =
track for this document?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>To whi=
ch I replied:</div><div><br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;bo=
rder:none;padding:0px"><div><div style=3D"font-size:13px">Thanks for your s=
upport, and yes we would, although we prefer standards track so that it wou=
ld be marked as &quot;Updates 6870&quot; in the RFC database, so anyone imp=
lementing 6870 will also read it, and a reference added if there&#39;s ever=
 a 6870-bis.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This answer still =
holds, since it extends the applicability of RFC 6870, making it standards =
track insures that future readers of 6870 should also read it. I don&#39;t =
think that would be the case were it informational.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>We (the authors) are of course willing to further discuss this, we just w=
ant to make sure that it get the proper visibility to readers of 6870.</div=
><div><br></div><div>2) Appendix 1 is already clear that it is optional, it=
&#39;s right in the title as well as the final paragraph of section A.1, an=
d in the abstract at the top of the draft as well. However, let us know if =
you have any specific changes you would like to see in the text.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>3) I&#39;ll poll the authors about this.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Thanks again,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:13 PM=
, Stewart Bryant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stbryant@cisco.com=
" target=3D"_blank">stbryant@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
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d;padding-left:1ex">I have some comments on draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protectio=
n<br>
<br>
1) I am not sure whether this is standards track or not. I does not<br>
really specify a new protocol, it just describes how you would use<br>
an existing protocol in a new environment. It seems to me that<br>
this should either be an informational or perhaps an applicability<br>
statement.<br>
<br>
2) If this were ST, then I think it would be useful to clarify that<br>
Appendix 1 is not normative.<br>
<br>
3) I count six authors,=C2=A0 hopefully you can justify this to the IESG<br=
>
if asked.<br>
<br>
- Stewart<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.=20

Best Regards,

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Lei Wang

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The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection have requested
that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following
established practice I first need to determine whether there
is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.

Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG
in the CC list indicating whether or not you know of any
not yet disclosed IPR that is applicable.

WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.

This poll will end 12 May 2015, or when I have heard from all
authors, which ever is later.

Thanks

Stewart




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Stewart,

I'm not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.

/Loa

On 2015-04-28 21:54, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Stewart,
>
> I am not aware of any IPR regarding this draft.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
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> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com
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>
>     The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection have requested
>     that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following
>     established practice I first need to determine whether there
>     is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.
>
>     Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG
>     in the CC list indicating whether or not you know of any
>     not yet disclosed IPR that is applicable.
>
>     WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.
>
>     This poll will end 12 May 2015, or when I have heard from all
>     authors, which ever is later.
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Stewart
>
>
>

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On 28/04/2015 21:09, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Stewart,
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> 1) Regarding standards track, this was discussed during the WG 
> adoption poll. At that time, Greg Mirsky wrote:
>
>
>     Firstly, I support adoption of this document by the WG.
>     Second, considering that the document doesn’t put forth any IANA
>     requests, nor changes any earlier defined procedures but rather
>     document applicability of the RFC 6478, would authors consider
>     Informational track for this document?
>
>
> To which I replied:
>
>     Thanks for your support, and yes we would, although we prefer
>     standards track so that it would be marked as "Updates 6870" in
>     the RFC database, so anyone implementing 6870 will also read it,
>     and a reference added if there's ever a 6870-bis.
>
>
> This answer still holds, since it extends the applicability of RFC 
> 6870, making it standards track insures that future readers of 6870 
> should also read it. I don't think that would be the case were it 
> informational.
>
> We (the authors) are of course willing to further discuss this, we 
> just want to make sure that it get the proper visibility to readers of 
> 6870.
>
I am not sure that it does actually update RFC6870.

An RFC6870 implementation that ignored this would not be incorrect in 
any way. It seems to me that this is ships in the night WRT RFC6870.

I am not sure I buy the -bis argument either since anyone competent to 
write the bis would find this.

- Stewart
> 2) Appendix 1 is already clear that it is optional, it's right in the 
> title as well as the final paragraph of section A.1, and in the 
> abstract at the top of the draft as well. However, let us know if you 
> have any specific changes you would like to see in the text.
>
> 3) I'll poll the authors about this.
>
> Thanks again,
> Andy
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com 
> <mailto:stbryant@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have some comments on draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection
>
>     1) I am not sure whether this is standards track or not. I does not
>     really specify a new protocol, it just describes how you would use
>     an existing protocol in a new environment. It seems to me that
>     this should either be an informational or perhaps an applicability
>     statement.
>
>     2) If this were ST, then I think it would be useful to clarify that
>     Appendix 1 is not normative.
>
>     3) I count six authors,  hopefully you can justify this to the IESG
>     if asked.
>
>     - Stewart
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/04/2015 21:09, Andrew G. Malis
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Stewart,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks for your comments. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>1) Regarding standards track, this was discussed during the
          WG adoption poll. At that time, Greg Mirsky wrote:</div>
        <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div>Firstly, I support adoption of this document by the WG.</div>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div>Second, considering that the document doesn’t put forth
              any IANA requests, nor changes any earlier defined
              procedures but rather document applicability of the RFC
              6478, would authors consider Informational track for this
              document?</div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>To which I replied:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
          <div>
            <div style="font-size:13px">Thanks for your support, and yes
              we would, although we prefer standards track so that it
              would be marked as "Updates 6870" in the RFC database, so
              anyone implementing 6870 will also read it, and a
              reference added if there's ever a 6870-bis.</div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This answer still holds, since it extends the applicability
          of RFC 6870, making it standards track insures that future
          readers of 6870 should also read it. I don't think that would
          be the case were it informational.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAA=duU31j_=dgC8G9+yR89vCJG8RWiZYNrtimGprUTtbbLKCWg@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We (the authors) are of course willing to further discuss
          this, we just want to make sure that it get the proper
          visibility to readers of 6870.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    I am not sure that it does actually update RFC6870.<br>
    <br>
    An RFC6870 implementation that ignored this would not be incorrect
    in any way. It seems to me that this is ships in the night WRT
    RFC6870.<br>
    <br>
    I am not sure I buy the -bis argument either since anyone competent
    to write the bis would find this.<br>
    <br>
    - Stewart<br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAA=duU31j_=dgC8G9+yR89vCJG8RWiZYNrtimGprUTtbbLKCWg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>2) Appendix 1 is already clear that it is optional, it's
          right in the title as well as the final paragraph of section
          A.1, and in the abstract at the top of the draft as well.
          However, let us know if you have any specific changes you
          would like to see in the text.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>3) I'll poll the authors about this.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks again,</div>
        <div>Andy</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:13 PM,
          Stewart Bryant <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:stbryant@cisco.com" target="_blank">stbryant@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have
            some comments on draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection<br>
            <br>
            1) I am not sure whether this is standards track or not. I
            does not<br>
            really specify a new protocol, it just describes how you
            would use<br>
            an existing protocol in a new environment. It seems to me
            that<br>
            this should either be an informational or perhaps an
            applicability<br>
            statement.<br>
            <br>
            2) If this were ST, then I think it would be useful to
            clarify that<br>
            Appendix 1 is not normative.<br>
            <br>
            3) I count six authors,  hopefully you can justify this to
            the IESG<br>
            if asked.<br>
            <br>
            - Stewart<br>
            <br>
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Hi all,
I have read the draft and I support requesting its publication from IESG.

I have the following comments that should be resolved complete with other W=
G LC comments:


1.       The draft (in its current version) is intended for Proposed Standa=
rd, but it does not contain any MUST/MUST NOT requirements. In particular, =
all the requirements in Section 3 "SPE Operation" are marked as SHOULD. Fro=
m my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest to r=
edefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avoid a=
ny such issues.

2.       The draft explicitly mentions MS-PWs with some (or even all) segme=
nts being statically configured and presumably relies on static PW Status m=
essages (as per RFC 6478) for carrying the Preferential Forwarding bit acro=
ss static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW status messa=
ges also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode is clearl=
y incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I suggest to me=
ntion it explicitly to avoid any ambiguity.

Hopefully these comments will be useful.

Regards,
Sasha

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have the following comments that should be resolve=
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version) is intended for Proposed Standard, but it does not contain any MUS=
T/MUST NOT requirements. In particular, all the requirements in Section 3 &=
#8220;SPE Operation&#8221; are marked as SHOULD.
 From my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest =
to redefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avo=
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The draft explicitly menti=
ons MS-PWs with some (or even all) segments being statically configured and=
 presumably relies on static PW Status messages (as per RFC 6478) for carry=
ing the Preferential Forwarding bit
 across static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW status =
messages also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode is c=
learly incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I suggest =
to mention it explicitly to avoid
 any ambiguity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hopefully these comments will be useful.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sasha<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Office: &#43;972-39266302<o:p></o:p></p>
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Regarding comment 2, Sasha had a similar comment
for draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection. There, I resolved the comment by
adding the text "Note that the optional S-PE Bypass Mode defined in Section
5.5 of RFC 6478 cannot be used, as it requires LDP signaling." Similar text
can be used here as well.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Alexander Vainshtein <
Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> I have read the draft and I support requesting its publication from IESG.
>
>
>
> I have the following comments that should be resolved complete with other
> WG LC comments:
>
>
>
> 1.       The draft (in its current version) is intended for Proposed
> Standard, but it does not contain any MUST/MUST NOT requirements. In
> particular, all the requirements in Section 3 =E2=80=9CSPE Operation=E2=
=80=9D are marked as
> SHOULD. From my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I
> suggest to redefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as
> MUST to avoid any such issues.
>
> 2.       The draft explicitly mentions MS-PWs with some (or even all)
> segments being statically configured and presumably relies on static PW
> Status messages (as per RFC 6478) for carrying the Preferential Forwardin=
g
> bit across static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW
> status messages also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This
> mode is clearly incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and=
 I
> suggest to mention it explicitly to avoid any ambiguity.
>
>
>
> Hopefully these comments will be useful.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sasha
>
>
>
> Office: +972-39266302
>
> Cell:      +972-549266302
>
> Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Regarding comment 2, Sasha had a similar comment for=C2=A0=
draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection. There, I resolved the comment by adding t=
he text &quot;Note that the optional S-PE Bypass Mode defined in Section 5.=
5 of RFC 6478 cannot be used, as it requires LDP signaling.&quot; Similar t=
ext can be used here as well.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</di=
v><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Alexander Vainshtein <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have read the draft and I support requesting its p=
ublication from IESG.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have the following comments that should be resolve=
d complete with other WG LC comments:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The draft (in its current ver=
sion) is intended for Proposed Standard, but it does not contain any MUST/M=
UST NOT requirements. In particular, all the requirements in Section 3 =E2=
=80=9CSPE Operation=E2=80=9D are marked as SHOULD.
 From my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest =
to redefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avo=
id any such issues.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The draft explicitly mentions=
 MS-PWs with some (or even all) segments being statically configured and pr=
esumably relies on static PW Status messages (as per RFC 6478) for carrying=
 the Preferential Forwarding bit
 across static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW status =
messages also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode is c=
learly incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I suggest =
to mention it explicitly to avoid
 any ambiguity.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hopefully these comments will be useful.<u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sasha<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Office: <a href=3D"tel:%2B972-39266302" value=3D"+97=
239266302" target=3D"_blank">+972-39266302</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cell:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:%=
2B972-549266302" value=3D"+972549266302" target=3D"_blank">+972-549266302</=
a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Email:=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:Alexander.Vains=
htein@ecitele.com" target=3D"_blank">Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com</a><u=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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Dear Stewart,

I'm not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.

Best regards,
Alessandro

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Da: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@cisco.com]
Inviato: marted=EC 28 aprile 2015 20:07
A: pals@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org
Oggetto: IPR review of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection

The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection have requested
that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following
established practice I first need to determine whether there
is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.

Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG
in the CC list indicating whether or not you know of any
not yet disclosed IPR that is applicable.

WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.

This poll will end 12 May 2015, or when I have heard from all
authors, which ever is later.

Thanks

Stewart

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear <span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Ti=
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Stewart</span>,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.=
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alessandro<o:p></o:p></p>
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r>
<b>Inviato:</b> marted=EC 28 aprile 2015 20:07<br>
<b>A:</b> pals@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <span class=3D"GramE">draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.iet=
f.org</span><br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> IPR review of draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection<o:p></o:p></=
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ls-ms-pw-protection have requested<br>
that I make a WG last call on this draft. However following<br>
established practice I first need to determine whether there<br>
is any undisclosed IPR on this draft.<br>
<br>
Authors, please reply to this message including the PALS WG<br>
in the CC list indicating whether or not you know of any<br>
not yet disclosed IPR that is applicable.<br>
<br>
WG if you know of any IPR that is relevant please disclose it.<br>
<br>
This poll will end 12 May 2015, or when I have heard from all<br>
authors, which ever is later.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
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Hi Sasha,

Thanks a lot for your comments.

I agree that to ensure interoperability, some or all of the SHOULD in secti=
on 3 need to be replaced with MUST.

As for the SPE bypass mode, what about adding the below texts in paragraph =
1 of section 3:

"Note that when PW redundancy for MS-PW is provided on S-PE, the optional S=
-PE Bypass Mode as defined in RFC 6478 MUST NOT be used. "

If you agree, we will make the changes in a new revision.

Best regards,
Jie

From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:42 PM
To: Andrew G. Malis (agmalis@gmail.com); Stewart Bryant (stbryant@cisco.com=
)
Cc: Dongjie (Jimmy); Wanghaibo (Rainsword); pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe

Hi all,
I have read the draft and I support requesting its publication from IESG.

I have the following comments that should be resolved complete with other W=
G LC comments:


1.       The draft (in its current version) is intended for Proposed Standa=
rd, but it does not contain any MUST/MUST NOT requirements. In particular, =
all the requirements in Section 3 "SPE Operation" are marked as SHOULD. Fro=
m my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest to r=
edefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avoid a=
ny such issues.

2.       The draft explicitly mentions MS-PWs with some (or even all) segme=
nts being statically configured and presumably relies on static PW Status m=
essages (as per RFC 6478) for carrying the Preferential Forwarding bit acro=
ss static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW status messa=
ges also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode is clearl=
y incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I suggest to me=
ntion it explicitly to avoid any ambiguity.

Hopefully these comments will be useful.

Regards,
Sasha

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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I agree that to ensure interoperability, some or all of the SHOUL=
D in section 3 need to be replaced with MUST.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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paragraph 1 of section 3:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&#8220;Note that when PW redundancy for MS-PW is provided on S-PE=
, the optional S-PE Bypass Mode as defined in RFC 6478 MUST NOT be used. &#=
8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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sco.com)<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have read the draft and I sup=
port requesting its publication from IESG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have the following comments t=
hat should be resolved complete with other WG LC comments:<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">The draft (in its curre=
nt version) is intended for Proposed Standard, but it does not contain any =
MUST/MUST NOT requirements. In particular, all the requirements in Section =
3 &#8220;SPE Operation&#8221; are marked as SHOULD.
 From my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest =
to redefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avo=
id any such issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">The draft explicitly me=
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and presumably relies on static PW Status messages (as per RFC 6478) for ca=
rrying the Preferential Forwarding
 bit across static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW sta=
tus messages also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode =
is clearly incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I sugg=
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 avoid any ambiguity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hopefully these comments will b=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sasha<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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?Hi Jie,

Looks as we are in sync regarding the changes.

The text regarding non-usage of bypass SPE mode looks OK to me.


I will be waiting for the new revision.


Regards,

Sasha

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From: Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:52 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein; Andrew G. Malis (agmalis@gmail.com); Stewart Brya=
nt (stbryant@cisco.com)
Cc: Wanghaibo (Rainsword); pals@ietf.org
Subject: RE: WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe

Hi Sasha,

Thanks a lot for your comments.

I agree that to ensure interoperability, some or all of the SHOULD in secti=
on 3 need to be replaced with MUST.

As for the SPE bypass mode, what about adding the below texts in paragraph =
1 of section 3:

"Note that when PW redundancy for MS-PW is provided on S-PE, the optional S=
-PE Bypass Mode as defined in RFC 6478 MUST NOT be used. "

If you agree, we will make the changes in a new revision.

Best regards,
Jie

From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com]
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To: Andrew G. Malis (agmalis@gmail.com); Stewart Bryant (stbryant@cisco.com=
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Subject: Re: WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe

Hi all,
I have read the draft and I support requesting its publication from IESG.

I have the following comments that should be resolved complete with other W=
G LC comments:


1.       The draft (in its current version) is intended for Proposed Standa=
rd, but it does not contain any MUST/MUST NOT requirements. In particular, =
all the requirements in Section 3 "SPE Operation" are marked as SHOULD. Fro=
m my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest to r=
edefine some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avoid a=
ny such issues.

2.       The draft explicitly mentions MS-PWs with some (or even all) segme=
nts being statically configured and presumably relies on static PW Status m=
essages (as per RFC 6478) for carrying the Preferential Forwarding bit acro=
ss static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW status messa=
ges also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode is clearl=
y incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I suggest to me=
ntion it explicitly to avoid any ambiguity.

Hopefully these comments will be useful.

Regards,
Sasha

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<p>Looks as we are in sync regarding the changes.</p>
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<b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans=
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew G. Malis (agmalis@gmail.com); Stewart Bryant (stbryant@ci=
sco.com)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dongjie (Jimmy); Wanghaibo (Rainsword); pals@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe</span></p=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi all,</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">I have read the draft and I support requesting its pub=
lication from IESG.</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">I have the following comments that should be resolved =
complete with other WG LC comments:</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US"><span>1.<span style=3D"font: 7pt/normal &quot;Times Ne=
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</span></span></span><span lang=3D"EN-US">The draft (in its current version=
) is intended for Proposed Standard, but it does not contain any MUST/MUST =
NOT requirements. In particular, all the requirements in Section 3 &#8220;S=
PE Operation&#8221; are marked as SHOULD. From
 my POV this may cause potential interoperability problems. I suggest to re=
define some (possibly all) requirements in this section as MUST to avoid an=
y such issues.</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US"><span>2.<span style=3D"font: 7pt/normal &quot;Times Ne=
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</span></span></span><span lang=3D"EN-US">The draft explicitly mentions MS-=
PWs with some (or even all) segments being statically configured and presum=
ably relies on static PW Status messages (as per RFC 6478) for carrying the=
 Preferential Forwarding bit across
 static segments. However, RFC 6478 allows sending static PW status message=
s also end-to-end (in the so-called SPE Bypass mode). This mode is clearly =
incompatible with the mechanism defined in the draft, and I suggest to ment=
ion it explicitly to avoid any ambiguity.</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">Hopefully these comments will be useful.</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">Sasha</span></p>
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