From nobody Fri May 1 04:22:24 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225D71B2D37 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 04:22:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nVD9TsmXzK2I for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 04:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 343081B30F8 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 04:22:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=531; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1430479341; x=1431688941; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5jZkM6YuSQ0zjank66P7i2zTWDQMHVnkQRdEyUpqq4M=; b=gsLbTT+0eL8mVB6izMK1fphZ/S0CKv7TXTi9sT/VHsF/84Vak021sU7c Safztd8GNd025URpUc9W99teSn7OxfeUkq4//sRA6qCeT6onxp1P4sDg4 oI9vmcy8cvapbQHmlrfcSXC8k8Giv2BoJFU/G9XrXTe4uVd2BZx5+FQRS U=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,350,1427760000"; d="scan'208";a="457622839" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-4.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 May 2015 11:22:19 +0000 Received: from [10.55.98.187] (ams-stbryant-88110.cisco.com [10.55.98.187]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t41BMJhF016125; Fri, 1 May 2015 11:22:19 GMT Message-ID: <554361EB.8040001@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 12:22:19 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pals@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org, Matthew Bocci , pals-ads , Haibo Wang References: <20150127144432.4057.11091.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <552D456B.8050205@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <552D456B.8050205@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 11:22:23 -0000 On 14/04/2015 17:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > This email starts the WG last call on draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe > > This document can be found at > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/ > > Last call will close on 29th April 2015 > > - Stewart > . > I see that there are a number of comments that require text changes. Please can the authors produce a revised version and then I will hand over to the Shepherd for their final review and report to the IESG. Thanks Stewart From nobody Fri May 1 04:33:16 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118611B2D5B for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 04:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tTtGTlWfzlCx for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 04:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 616F51B2D47 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 04:33:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=339; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1430479995; x=1431689595; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=guolh3AliPX51uhe41Bz2e7rwxtorgo8xAhSAcOz5p4=; b=SQtzLNTyc9ukfZ6DBCzdNwZYD+n3AsQEdlt+bXHP35YpTxcIJeq0Wubz JylJbKnk8QyAuDCIUDnaAa9p0739WjhPVFQUzkqSVHFxg+vGeOk9gUIAA 0gtpRFI1UbxoFIFMGGVi5sRP4ch77TrAIZ8iZ5iQ1ANmhlVKzpbj/NmoE A=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,350,1427760000"; d="scan'208";a="475757829" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-2.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 May 2015 11:33:13 +0000 Received: from [10.55.98.187] (ams-stbryant-88110.cisco.com [10.55.98.187]) by aer-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t41BXCMp022718; Fri, 1 May 2015 11:33:12 GMT Message-ID: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 12:33:12 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org, "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 11:33:16 -0000 We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile I would like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself. This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. The draft can be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ - Stewart From nobody Fri May 1 07:48:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE59E1AD377 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 07:47:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l_3HRLcp7iAi for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 07:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6954A1A9035 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 07:47:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=423; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1430491677; x=1431701277; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RbRiHNRxc5MWurt7IsHJ9buKS2+zh6lp7VQKU4Xb7lg=; b=C4YVgeIb6MdOp/X2E2QNwKputjEd3/w6APkPgoRjZwciJ03lLhMNj2bw Z2UKtW+JiahgkTy7GKPnTJkCtixo1imXgkQ05U+kpS9oMzF7/dU77gOQx dxbPNJa4HUO7se05su0mcuiClV4796e9V5D5wCQJOn9xxNz5x7Flfp+H2 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,350,1427760000"; d="scan'208";a="457837489" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 May 2015 14:47:55 +0000 Received: from [10.55.98.187] (ams-stbryant-88110.cisco.com [10.55.98.187]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t41Elt2l017164; Fri, 1 May 2015 14:47:55 GMT Message-ID: <5543921B.9050200@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 15:47:55 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pals@ietf.org" References: <552D4A5A.1000209@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <552D4A5A.1000209@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon@tools.ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] Should the PALS WG adopt draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon? X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 14:47:59 -0000 On 14/04/2015 18:11, Stewart Bryant wrote: > This is to start a two week WG poll to determine whether > we should adopt > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jiang-pwe3-mc-pon-03 > > This poll will close on 29th April 2015 > > - Stewart > . > Clearly we have interest in this draft and should therefore adopt it. Please republish as draft-ietf-pals-mc-pon-00 I have pre-approved the draft. - Stewart From nobody Mon May 4 04:10:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129471AD324; Mon, 4 May 2015 04:10:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cz5lqEyIZ5UP; Mon, 4 May 2015 04:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C0B1AD2C0; Mon, 4 May 2015 04:10:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150504111035.8447.11004.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 04:10:35 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 11:10:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Pseudowire Redundancy on S-PE Authors : Jie Dong Haibo Wang Filename : draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-01.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2015-05-04 Abstract: This document describes Multi-Segment Pseudowire (MS-PW) protection scenarios in which the pseudowire redundancy is provided on the Switching-PE (S-PE). Operations of the S-PEs which provide PW redundancy are specified in this document. Signaling of the preferential forwarding status as defined in [RFC 6870] is reused. This document does not require any change to the T-PEs of MS-PW. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon May 4 04:14:11 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984B01ACF09 for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 04:14:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CVvch3Bo1jGf for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BF131A0385 for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 04:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BVQ15704; Mon, 04 May 2015 11:14:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.35) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Mon, 4 May 2015 12:14:06 +0100 Received: from NKGEML512-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.135]) by nkgeml404-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 4 May 2015 19:13:55 +0800 From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , "pals@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org" , Matthew Bocci , pals-ads , "Wanghaibo (Rainsword)" Thread-Topic: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe Thread-Index: AQHQdtM8TkQ0ufcQ0Eum4LRqbewdBZ1mjmiAgAU6A3A= Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:13:55 +0000 Message-ID: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C92757D0F14C@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <20150127144432.4057.11091.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <552D456B.8050205@cisco.com> <554361EB.8040001@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <554361EB.8040001@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.97.131] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 11:14:10 -0000 Hi Stewart,=20 We just submitted a new version to solve the comments received in last call= . Thanks. Best regards, Jie > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:22 PM > To: pals@ietf.org; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org; > draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe@tools.ietf.org; Matthew Bocci; pals-ads; > Wanghaibo (Rainsword) > Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last Call - draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe >=20 > On 14/04/2015 17:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > > This email starts the WG last call on draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe > > > > This document can be found at > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/ > > > > Last call will close on 29th April 2015 > > > > - Stewart > > . > > > I see that there are a number of comments that require text changes. >=20 > Please can the authors produce a revised version and then I will hand ove= r to > the Shepherd for their final review and report to the IESG. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Stewart >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Mon May 4 20:33:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67581B2DC2; Mon, 4 May 2015 20:33:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YBFwNX9jMd88; Mon, 4 May 2015 20:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAC31B2DBD; Mon, 4 May 2015 20:33:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150505033312.23767.27946.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 20:33:12 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mc-pon-00.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 03:33:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multi-chassis PON Protection in MPLS Authors : Yuanlong Jiang Yong Luo Edwin Mallette Yimin Shen Guangtao Zhou Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mc-pon-00.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2015-05-04 Abstract: MPLS is being deployed deeper into operator networks, often to or past the access network node. Separately network access nodes such as PON OLTs have evolved to support first-mile access protection, where one or more physical OLTs provide first-mile diversity to the customer edge. Multi-homing support is needed on the MPLS-enabled PON OLT to provide resiliency for provided services. This document describes the multi-chassis PON protection architecture in MPLS and also proposes the ICCP extension to support it. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mc-pon/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mc-pon-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed May 6 00:06:37 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789EA1A870E for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 00:06:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LuBt9TXAmfXL for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 00:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75B9C1A8703 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 00:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BSE65054; Wed, 06 May 2015 07:06:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.32) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 6 May 2015 08:06:31 +0100 Received: from NKGEML512-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.135]) by nkgeml401-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.32]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 6 May 2015 15:06:26 +0800 From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection Thread-Index: AQHQhAKptb7QSrcPZ0qQqVt22maEYp1uidpA Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 07:06:25 +0000 Message-ID: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C92757D10312@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.97.131] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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This is a useful document for the S-PE failure protection of stati= c MS-PWs.=20 Best regards, Jie > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:33 PM > To: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Subject: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection >=20 > We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. >=20 > I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile I would like= to > start the WG Last Call on the text itself. >=20 > This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. >=20 > The draft can be found at >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Wed May 6 01:06:04 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D011A88B9 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:06:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dvg0NbnRKL3Q for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpeg.etri.re.kr (smtpeg2.etri.re.kr [129.254.27.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8564F1A889A for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP3.etri.info (129.254.28.73) by SMTPEG2.etri.info (129.254.27.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 6 May 2015 17:05:58 +0900 Received: from SMTP2.etri.info ([169.254.2.83]) by SMTP3.etri.info ([10.2.6.32]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Wed, 6 May 2015 17:05:53 +0900 From: "Ryoo, Jeong-dong " To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection Thread-Index: AQHQhAKjfzqmf1wXUk60siRkrA4tSJ1unrJz Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 08:05:52 +0000 Message-ID: <5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9@SMTP2.etri.info> References: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> Accept-Language: ko-KR, en-US Content-Language: ko-KR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-new-displayname: UnlvbywgSmVvbmctZG9uZyA= x-originating-ip: [129.254.28.43] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9SMTP2etriinfo_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ryoo, Jeong-dong " , "stbryant@cisco.com" , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" References: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> <5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9@SMTP2.etri.info> In-Reply-To: <5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9@SMTP2.etri.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 08:41:49 -0000 Folks, ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name in the subject. Please review and comment! /Loa PS BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)! On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong wrote: > Support. > Jeong-dong > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *보낸 사람 : *"Stewart Bryant" > *보낸 날짜 : *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09:00 ) > *받는 사람 : *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org > , pals@ietf.org > > *참조 : * > *제목 : *[Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection > > We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. > > I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile > I would like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself. > > This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. > > The draft can be found at > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ > > - Stewart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed May 6 01:54:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250D61A90D5 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:54:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1NCyTSwPyEe7 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5001D1A8A48 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wicmx19 with SMTP id mx19so119836612wic.1 for ; Wed, 06 May 2015 01:54:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:subject:message-id:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zxo9A5y7qvp5hMGP952PgasOUsSfSApyiLXGe5F7jRE=; b=q5Awjd+Qpg+7ytHIz+Ck8jZf6IZJdm7Q1vKR9LnjLXpD/CYW52e8if+YybK9zADtXM pXMlZYCJT/eU+mnJlBX4JApPPbsI32k8xalG4sjGKg+RA2P32NAjomdta+NskxGAdh8p hjqRsC7IHd2MG809HqRQ6eWPFb7RwL60ECOQlJmxLWUyGIh1jRf3bhN3q+vDVf9f7YtG 4MGgg9cTQFqf0627LYWTDmlKVkJ/dadGZGkB9mzYEJwlkKerQUCku28mtm2icO1BfIzq nNhCJuZivEZDXYVlhfVfMuHGlfw6wpfvpKDEWH3PwRkoDzrywtupDR0RgMEKHcUi9fjI AaYA== X-Received: by 10.194.133.102 with SMTP id pb6mr58411211wjb.97.1430902489117; Wed, 06 May 2015 01:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.6] (ip56521a36.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl. 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Malis" Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 09:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444ec5f702995051569b61c Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 13:24:24 -0000 --f46d0444ec5f702995051569b61c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've reviewed the draft, and I have some comments on the IANA considerations. These should be treated the same as any other last call comments. In Section 6, the IANA "Pseudowire Associated Channel Types" registry has been renamed the "MPLS Generalized Associated Channel (G-ACh) Types (including Pseudowire Associated Channel Types)" registry. You should replace "recommended value 0x0028" with "requested value 0x0028". Through the draft, you refer to the "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". However, in Section 6, you refer to it as the "Pseudowire MAC Withdraw OAM Channel". You should change that to "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". In the MAC Withdraw OAM Message, you include a "Sequence Number TLV" and in Section 6, you define a new unnamed registry where "Sequence Number TLV" is assigned value 0x0001, and that's the only value in this new registry. However, RFC 7026 discourages the use of ACH TLVs. In addition, there is a lot of work required to defining a new registry above and beyond what is currently in your draft, and this is all unnecessary because you only have one value defined. So I would highly recommend removing the "Sequence Number TLV" from the MAC Withdraw OAM Message, and simplify it to something like this: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |0 0 0 1|Version| Reserved |0xZZ MAC Withdraw OAM Message | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reserved | TLV Length |A|R| Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Sequence Number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | | MAC List TLV | ~ MAC Flush Parameter TLV (optional) ~ | | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ I do realize that the MAC List and MAC Flush Parameter TLVs are still present, but they are justified because they carry the same information that is carried by LDP signaling in RFC 4762. This is very similar to the PW OAM Message in RFC 6478. For those of you that haven't yet reviewed this draft, I will be ending the WG last call tomorrow, you can still get in comments today. Thanks, Andy On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > This beings a two-week WG LC for > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00, to complete > on May 6. Please send your comments on the draft to the PALS WG (just > replying to this email would be best). > > Thanks, > Andy > > --f46d0444ec5f702995051569b61c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've reviewed the draft, and I have some comments on t= he IANA considerations. These should be treated the same as any other last = call comments.

In Section 6, the IANA "Pseudowire A= ssociated Channel Types" registry has been renamed the "MPLS Gene= ralized Associated Channel (G-ACh) Types (including Pseudowire Associated C= hannel Types)" registry.

You should replace &= quot;recommen= ded value 0x0028" with "requested value 0x0028".
=
Through the draft, you refer to the "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". Howev= er, in Section 6, you refer to it as the "Pseudowire MAC Withdraw OAM Channe= l". You should change that to "MAC Withdraw OAM Message".

In the=C2=A0MAC Withdraw OAM Message, you include a "Sequence Number TLV&quo= t; and in Section 6, you define a new unnamed registry where "<= font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2">Sequence Number TLV" is assigned val= ue 0x0001, and that's the only value in this new registry. However, RFC= 7026 discourages the use of ACH TLVs. In addition, there is a lot of work = required to defining a new registry above and beyond what is currently in y= our draft, and this is all=C2=A0unnecessary<= /font>=C2=A0because you only have one va= lue defined. So I would highly recommend removing the "Sequence Number TLV" from the= =C2=A0MAC Withdraw O= AM Message, and simplify it to something like this:
= 

       0                   1        =
           2                   3
       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |0 0 0 1|Version|   Reserved    |0xZZ MAC Withdraw OAM Message  |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |            Reserved           |  TLV Length   |A|R| Flags     |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |                        Sequence Number                        |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |                                                               |
      |                         MAC List TLV                          |
      ~                MAC Flush Parameter TLV (optional)             ~
      |                                                               |
      |                                                               |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+



I do realize that the MAC List and MAC Flush Parameter TLVs = are still present, but they are justified because they carry the same infor= mation that is carried by LDP signaling in RFC 4762. This is very similar t= o the PW OAM Message in RFC 6478.

For those of you that haven't yet reviewed this draf= t, I will be ending the WG last call tomorrow, you can still get in comment= s today.
<= br>
Thanks= ,
Andy



On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis= @gmail.com> wrote:
This beings a two-week WG LC for=C2=A0http://tools= .ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00, to complete on May 6.= Please send your comments on the draft to the PALS WG (just replying to th= is email would be best).

Thanks,
Andy


--f46d0444ec5f702995051569b61c-- From nobody Wed May 6 07:54:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A569A1ACDA3 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6GmCvX46AOQX for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-4.cisco.com (aer-iport-4.cisco.com [173.38.203.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80E981ACC82 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:53:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1499; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1430924036; x=1432133636; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tq3yNt3zAAtWv0h9LmbkVoCbfkGpFWtnpkTcZ042BY0=; b=iJQSjp69aWrlpEDQfDq/8x8YFEcLq8h4xbM/9RSHDfsU0SbK1iv/bAKz ETklcrGPTmKIedk94TwaD+twq9jk2iSBpr0Klxc9jf+163pRYq9eovDja mA3XQDKIWVfHq+q96YHUCxPaSFtm0X45g9ALCA9WUZ7HGj8i53PBDyjjv Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,379,1427760000"; d="scan'208";a="461120236" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2015 14:53:54 +0000 Received: from [10.55.98.187] (ams-stbryant-88110.cisco.com [10.55.98.187]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t46ErsUL030616; Wed, 6 May 2015 14:53:54 GMT Message-ID: <554A2B02.4060303@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 15:53:54 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loa Andersson , "Ryoo, Jeong-dong " , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" References: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> <5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9@SMTP2.etri.info> <5549D3C8.3070707@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <5549D3C8.3070707@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 14:53:59 -0000 Apologies I will add a few more days in case anyone missed it. Stewart On 06/05/2015 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote: > Folks, > > ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name > in the subject. > > Please review and comment! > > /Loa > > PS > > BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)! > > > On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong wrote: >> Support. >> Jeong-dong >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *보낸 사람 : *"Stewart Bryant" >> *보낸 날짜 : *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09:00 ) >> *받는 사람 : *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org >> , pals@ietf.org >> >> *참조 : * >> *제목 : *[Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection >> >> We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. >> >> I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile >> I would like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself. >> >> This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. >> >> The draft can be found at >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ >> >> - Stewart >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > -- For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html From nobody Wed May 6 08:19:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23361AD06A for ; 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Malis" Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 11:59:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: Alexander Vainshtein Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04138a9dbb987f05156be231 Archived-At: Cc: Loa Andersson , "Ryoo, Jeong-dong" , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , "stbryant@cisco.com" Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:00:03 -0000 --f46d04138a9dbb987f05156be231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sasha, The reason that I didn't include comment that is that this has already been discussed on the list (see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/current/msg00113.html ), and I didn't want to make this becoming an RFC have to wait for draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe due to the reference. However, as Stewart is shepherd, if he feels that this is an important addition, then I'll add it. Thanks, Andy On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Alexander Vainshtein < Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote: > Stewart and all, > I support progressing the draft. > > I have already provided my comments to the previous version, and most of > these are addressed in the current version. > > I believe that the draft should also indicate its relationship to (and it= s > difference from) draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe. > This did not happen before the WG LC, but I still hope this can be done > after successful completion of the WG LC. > > Regards, > Sasha > > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:54 PM > To: Loa Andersson; Ryoo, Jeong-dong ; > draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection > > Apologies > > I will add a few more days in case anyone missed it. > > Stewart > > On 06/05/2015 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Folks, > > > > ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name in > > the subject. > > > > Please review and comment! > > > > /Loa > > > > PS > > > > BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)! > > > > > > On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong wrote: > >> Support. > >> Jeong-dong > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C : *"Stewart Bryant" *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EB=82=A0=EC=A7=9C : > >> *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09:00 ) *=EB=B0=9B=EB=8A=94 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C= : > >> *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org > >> , pals@ietf.org > >> *=EC=B0=B8=EC=A1=B0 : * *=EC=A0=9C=EB=AA=A9 : *[Pals] > >> draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection > >> > >> We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. > >> > >> I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile I would > >> like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself. > >> > >> This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. > >> > >> The draft can be found at > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ > >> > >> - Stewart > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pals mailing list > >> Pals@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > > > > > -- > For corporate legal information go to: > > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > --f46d04138a9dbb987f05156be231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sasha,

The reason that I didn't inc= lude comment that is that this has already been discussed on the list (see = http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/current/msg00113.html ), and= I didn't want to make this becoming an RFC have to wait for=C2=A0draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe due to the reference.

However= , as Stewart is shepherd, if he feels that this is an important addition, t= hen I'll add it.

Thanks,
Andy

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Alexande= r Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:
Stewart and all,
I support progressing the draft.

I have already provided my comments to the previous version, and most of th= ese are addressed in the current version.

I believe that the draft should also indicate its relationship to (and its = difference from) draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe.
This did not happen before the WG LC, but I still hope this can be done aft= er successful completion of the WG LC.

Regards,
Sasha

Office: +972-3926630= 2
Cell:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +972-549266302
Email:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Alex= ander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:54 PM
To: Loa Andersson; Ryoo, Jeong-dong ; draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.o= rg; pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection

Apologies

I will add a few more days in case anyone missed it.

Stewart

On 06/05/2015 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Folks,
>
> ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name in=
> the subject.
>
> Please review and comment!
>
> /Loa
>
> PS
>
> BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)!
>
>
> On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong=C2=A0 wrote:
>> Support.
>> Jeong-dong
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------= ---
>> --- *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C : *"Stewart= Bryant" <stbryant@cisco.com<= /a>> *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EB=82=A0=EC=A7=9C :
>> *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09= :00 ) *=EB=B0=9B=EB=8A=94 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C :
>> *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org
>> <draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org>, pals@ietf.org
>> <pals@ietf.org> *=EC=B0= =B8=EC=A1=B0 : * *=EC=A0=9C=EB=AA=A9 : *[Pals]
>> draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection
>>
>> We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR.
>>
>> I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile I wou= ld
>> like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself.
>>
>> This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015.
>>
>> The draft can be found at
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-= pals-ms-pw-protection/
>>
>> - Stewart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pals mailing list
>> Pals@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals
>


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--f46d04138a9dbb987f05156be231-- From nobody Wed May 6 09:11:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014521A07BC for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:11:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nP7jL1NMKdLQ for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3844E1B2BAE for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml405-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BSF27475; Wed, 06 May 2015 16:11:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.125.30.107]) by lhreml405-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.201.5.242]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 6 May 2015 17:11:40 +0100 From: Italo Busi To: "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection Thread-Index: AQHQiBdWir84YYlTlki2YlYy3DsYIQ== Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 16:11:39 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B010FB13C@lhreml504-mbs> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.220.134.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:11:51 -0000 Support Italo > -----Original Message----- > From: Stewart Bryant > Sent: Fri, 01 May 2015 12:33:12 +0100 > To: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org, "pals@ietf.org" > > Subject: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection > Message-ID: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8; format=3Dflowed >=20 > We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. >=20 > I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile I would like= to > start the WG Last Call on the text itself. >=20 > This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. >=20 > The draft can be found at >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Wed May 6 09:28:02 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF561B2BDB; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:28:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HUwIdgH2pCys; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64851A026F; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150506162758.21892.56997.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 09:27:58 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:28:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection Authors : Yimin Shen Rahul Aggarwal Wim Henderickx Yuanlong Jiang Filename : draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2015-05-06 Abstract: This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudowires against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment circuit failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE failure, and multi-segment PW switching PE failure. Designed on the basis of multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and context specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair to be performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure. The router can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, by transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-established bypass tunnel. Therefore, the mechanism can be used to reduce traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and the network converges on the topology changes due to the failure. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed May 6 09:39:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B21B2C57 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VykgVpTGldaD for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F61D1B2C59 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wicmx19 with SMTP id mx19so129441271wic.1 for ; Wed, 06 May 2015 09:39:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=xdI5jrlW6IdYOX/iXkWt2jKTTHNDE6At7QfdQLKX04o=; b=qXYf9D2S4/wupqM8FZFYMZXhEYDSkYovW6QskF45vXHVWEr4Tm4iltsl9DZ3A9Hf8U YX3q+AsecGbEUjvWk7xjF500hFAxNNWfVpDkUSVlKeVRukTO/DlvcxRxfRSyKDEBfREg uliDOiNtxmLxwJ69dePXRe9lakV/VsOQEWBeRY34wXTXcKQhxYV2LIt8E3zR8JoXgN8T emczIEWp+U+7qAvhsqJ+P7sEypvzeSo6qYw0gA3/761r0X6oZV+lG8Begj4H6IcVAD10 ZvkqgoThbi60nbnvnXIYw/xkj4cnh4dDWtBCdr7Yomgw4qgToWUXRopo6eBUPNiSbir9 g0YQ== X-Received: by 10.180.93.193 with SMTP id cw1mr15919370wib.12.1430930390219; Wed, 06 May 2015 09:39:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.182.215 with HTTP; Wed, 6 May 2015 09:39:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150506162758.21892.56997.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20150506162758.21892.56997.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 12:39:29 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdede9b7f8f05156c715f Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:39:57 -0000 --f46d043bdede9b7f8f05156c715f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 PALSers, Please note that this is not a brand new draft, it's a continuation of draft-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection, which was updated to address WG LC comments. Cheers, Andy On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services > Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection > Authors : Yimin Shen > Rahul Aggarwal > Wim Henderickx > Yuanlong Jiang > Filename : draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt > Pages : 29 > Date : 2015-05-06 > > Abstract: > This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudowires > against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment circuit > failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE failure, > and multi-segment PW switching PE failure. Designed on the basis of > multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and context > specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair to be > performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure. The router > can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, by > transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-established > bypass tunnel. Therefore, the mechanism can be used to reduce > traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and the > network converges on the topology changes due to the failure. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > --f46d043bdede9b7f8f05156c715f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PALSers,

Please note that this is not a= brand new draft, it's a continuation of=C2=A0draft-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-p= rotection, which was updated to address WG LC comments.

Cheers,
Andy

On Wed, May 6= , 2015 at 12:27 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote= :

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
=C2=A0This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services = Working Group of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Yimi= n Shen
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rahul Aggarwal
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wim Henderickx
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yuanlong Jiang
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 29
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2015-05-06

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudo= wires
=C2=A0 =C2=A0against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment = circuit
=C2=A0 =C2=A0failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE fa= ilure,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and multi-segment PW switching PE failure.=C2=A0 Designed on t= he basis of
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair t= o be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure.=C2=A0 = The router
=C2=A0 =C2=A0can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, b= y
=C2=A0 =C2=A0transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-establis= hed
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bypass tunnel.=C2=A0 Therefore, the mechanism can be used to r= educe
=C2=A0 =C2=A0traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and th= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0network converges on the topology changes due to the failure.<= br>

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-p= als-endpoint-fast-protection/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endp= oint-fast-protection-00


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_143097807380330217ecitelecom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 May 2015 05:54:37.2085 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB3PR03MB0777 Archived-At: Cc: "Andrew G. Malis" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 05:56:25 -0000 --_000_143097807380330217ecitelecom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?Yimin, I have been waiting with interest for the new version. I will try to read it and to provide additional comments (or to acknowledge= that my previous comments have been successfully resolved) within the nex= t few days. Regards, Sasha ________________________________ From: Yimin Shen Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:45 PM To: Andrew G. Malis; pals@ietf.org; Alexander Vainshtein Subject: RE: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00= .txt Hi Steward, Sasha, I'd like to thank you for your valuable comments in the previous LC for thi= s draft. Sorry for the delay, but I've finally got to spend time addressing= these comments with a new ver. The major updates are in section 3, section 4.1 and section 6. I made some = clarification for the reference models, the general relationship between th= is mechanism and other global/protocol/multi-homing protection mechanisms, = failure handling for traffic of reverse direction, ECMP case for IP/LDP tun= nels, applicability, revertive behaviors, etc. Hope that I have covered all= . Please let me know if you have further questions. Thanks, /Yimin From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 12:39 PM To: pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00= .txt PALSers, Please note that this is not a brand new draft, it's a continuation of draf= t-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection, which was updated to address WG LC co= mments. Cheers, Andy On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, > wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Worki= ng Group of the IETF. Title : PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection Authors : Yimin Shen Rahul Aggarwal Wim Henderickx Yuanlong Jiang Filename : draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2015-05-06 Abstract: This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudowires against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment circuit failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE failure, and multi-segment PW switching PE failure. Designed on the basis of multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and context specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair to be performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure. The router can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, by transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-established bypass tunnel. Therefore, the mechanism can be used to reduce traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and the network converges on the topology changes due to the failure. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Pals mailing list Pals@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals --_000_143097807380330217ecitelecom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

​Yimin,

I have been waiting with interest for the new version.

I will try to read it and to provide additional comments (or to acknowle= dge that my previous comments have been  successfully resolved) within= the next few days.


Regards,

Sasha


From: Yimin Shen <yshe= n@juniper.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:45 PM
To: Andrew G. Malis; pals@ietf.org; Alexander Vainshtein
Subject: RE: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protec= tion-00.txt
 

Hi Steward, Sasha,

 

I’d like to thank you for you= r valuable comments in the previous LC for this draft. Sorry for the delay,= but I’ve finally got to spend time addressing these comments with a new ver.

 

The major updates are in section 3,= section 4.1 and section 6. I made some clarification for the reference mod= els, the general relationship between this mechanism and other global/protocol/multi-homing protection mechanisms, failure handling= for traffic of reverse direction, ECMP case for IP/LDP tunnels, applicabil= ity, revertive behaviors, etc. Hope that I have covered all. Please let me = know if you have further questions.

 

Thanks,

 

/Yimin

 

 

From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@i= etf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 12:39 PM
To: pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protec= tion-00.txt

 

PALSers,

 

Please note that this is not a brand new draft, it's a continuation of = ;draft-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection,= which was updated to address WG LC comments.

 

Cheers,

Andy

 

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, <= internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services = Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           := PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection
        Authors         : Yimi= n Shen
                     = ;     Rahul Aggarwal
                     = ;     Wim Henderickx
                     = ;     Yuanlong Jiang
        Filename        : draft-iet= f-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00.txt
        Pages           := 29
        Date            := 2015-05-06

Abstract:
   This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudo= wires
   against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment = circuit
   failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE fa= ilure,
   and multi-segment PW switching PE failure.  Designed on t= he basis of
   multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and c= ontext
   specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair t= o be
   performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure.  = The router
   can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, b= y
   transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-establis= hed
   bypass tunnel.  Therefore, the mechanism can be used to r= educe
   traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and th= e
   network converges on the topology changes due to the failure.<= br>

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protec= tion/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-00<= /a>


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-draft= s/

_______________________________________________
Pals mailing list
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Malis" Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 13:04:21 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428d2464717b051580e8ae Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 17:04:46 -0000 --f46d04428d2464717b051580e8ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This ends the WG last call for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd. Even though we only had one set of last call comments, the draft has been sufficiently discussed previously both in meetings and via email that once updated to address the comments, is ready for submission to the IESG. I'll await a new revision, and then do the IESG submission. Cheers, Andy On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > I've reviewed the draft, and I have some comments on the IANA > considerations. These should be treated the same as any other last call > comments. > > In Section 6, the IANA "Pseudowire Associated Channel Types" registry has > been renamed the "MPLS Generalized Associated Channel (G-ACh) Types > (including Pseudowire Associated Channel Types)" registry. > > You should replace "recommended value 0x0028" with "requested value > 0x0028". > > Through the draft, you refer to the "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". However, > in Section 6, you refer to it as the "Pseudowire MAC Withdraw OAM > Channel". You should change that to "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". > > In the MAC Withdraw OAM Message, you include a "Sequence Number TLV" and > in Section 6, you define a new unnamed registry where "Sequence Number > TLV" is assigned value 0x0001, and that's the only value in this new > registry. However, RFC 7026 discourages the use of ACH TLVs. In addition, > there is a lot of work required to defining a new registry above and beyond > what is currently in your draft, and this is all unnecessary because you > only have one value defined. So I would highly recommend removing the "Sequence > Number TLV" from the MAC Withdraw OAM Message, and simplify it to > something like this: > > > 0 1 2 3 > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > |0 0 0 1|Version| Reserved |0xZZ MAC Withdraw OAM Message | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Reserved | TLV Length |A|R| Flags | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Sequence Number | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | | > | MAC List TLV | > ~ MAC Flush Parameter TLV (optional) ~ > | | > | | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > I do realize that the MAC List and MAC Flush Parameter TLVs are still > present, but they are justified because they carry the same information > that is carried by LDP signaling in RFC 4762. This is very similar to the > PW OAM Message in RFC 6478. > > For those of you that haven't yet reviewed this draft, I will be ending > the WG last call tomorrow, you can still get in comments today. > > Thanks, > Andy > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > >> This beings a two-week WG LC for >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00, to >> complete on May 6. Please send your comments on the draft to the PALS WG >> (just replying to this email would be best). >> >> Thanks, >> Andy >> >> > --f46d04428d2464717b051580e8ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This ends the WG last call for=C2=A0draft-ietf-pals-mpls-t= p-mac-wd. Even though we only had one set of last call comments, the draft = has been sufficiently discussed previously both in meetings and via email t= hat once updated to address the comments, is ready for submission to the IE= SG. I'll await a new revision, and then do the IESG submission.
Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:23 AM,= Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
I've reviewed the draft, and I have = some comments on the IANA considerations. These should be treated the same = as any other last call comments.

In Section 6, the IANA = "Pseudowire Associated Channel Types" registry has been renamed t= he "MPLS Generalized Associated Channel (G-ACh) Types (including Pseud= owire Associated Channel Types)" registry.

Yo= u should replace "recommended value 0x0028" with "requested value 0x0028".=

Through the draft, you refer to the "MAC Withdraw OAM Me= ssage". However, in Section 6, you refer to it as the "Pseudowire MAC W= ithdraw OAM Channel". You should change that to "MAC Withdraw OAM Message".

In the=C2=A0MAC Withdraw OAM Message, you include a "Sequence Nu= mber TLV" and in Section 6, you define a new unnamed registry where &q= uot;Sequence Number TLV" is = assigned value 0x0001, and that's the only value in this new registry. = However, RFC 7026 discourages the use of ACH TLVs. In addition, there is a = lot of work required to defining a new registry above and beyond what is cu= rrently in your draft, and this is all=C2=A0= unnecessary=C2=A0because you only= have one value defined. So I would highly recommend removing the "Sequence Number TLV&quo= t; from the=C2=A0MAC= Withdraw OAM Message, and simplify it to something like this:
=

= 
       0                   1                   2             =
      3
       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |0 0 0 1|Version|   Reserved    |0xZZ MAC Withdraw OAM Message  |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |            Reserved           |  TLV Length   |A|R| Flags     |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |                        Sequence Number                        |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |                                                               |
      |                         MAC List TLV                          |
      ~                MAC Flush Parameter TLV (optional)             ~
      |                                                               |
      |                                                               |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+



I do realize that the MAC List and MAC Flush Parameter TLVs = are still present, but they are justified because they carry the same infor= mation that is carried by LDP signaling in RFC 4762. This is very similar t= o the PW OAM Message in RFC 6478.

For those of you that haven't yet reviewed this draf= t, I will be ending the WG last call tomorrow, you can still get in comment= s today.
<= br>
Thanks= ,
Andy



On Tue, Apr 21, 201= 5 at 5:51 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
=
This beings a two-week WG L= C for=C2=A0http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-= tp-mac-wd-00, to complete on May 6. Please send your comments on the dr= aft to the PALS WG (just replying to this email would be best).

Thanks,
Andy



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Malis" Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 07:56:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd917523c89a30515f54eb1 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] SDN/MPLS 2015 CFP Announcement X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:56:50 -0000 --047d7bd917523c89a30515f54eb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 PALSers, As a member of the Technical Program Committee, I would like to alert you to the following Call for Presentation Abstract Proposals now up at http://www.isocore.com/2015/cfp.htm . Submissions Deadline: *May 18* Isocore's 2015 International Conference, the 18th Annual event on new networking technologies will be held November 15-18, 2015, in Washington, DC. This year, the overarching themes of the conference will be on *Softwarization (Integration of SDN and NFV), Programmatic Control, Security and Operational Experience of the Network and Services in Cloud, Data Centers and DevOps environments*. The conference Program Committee is soliciting presentation proposals seeking original and unpublished work to continue the tradition initiated by this conference in 1998 of covering cutting-edge topics. Presentations addressing new technologies and operational experience are solicited from network equipment vendors, service providers, the research community, government agencies, and enterprise users. In particular, submission in at least the following topics areas are of interest * Cybersecurity, Security of the Cloud and Data Governance * Softwarization (Integration of SDN and NFV) of the Network and Services * Service Function Chaining * Mobile and Wireless Packet Infrastructure Please submit your abstracts to cfp2015@isocore.com Cheers, Andy --047d7bd917523c89a30515f54eb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PALSers,

As a member of the Technical Program Committee, I would l= ike to alert you to the following Call for Presentation Abstract Proposals = now up at http://www.isocore.com/2015/cfp.htm=C2=A0.

Submissions Deadline: *May 18*

Isocore's 2015 International Conference, the 18th Annual event on new n= etworking technologies will be held November 15-18, 2015, in Washington, DC= . This year, the overarching themes of the conference will be on *Softwariz= ation (Integration of SDN and NFV), Programmatic Control, Security and Oper= ational Experience of the Network and Services in Cloud, Data Centers and D= evOps environments*.

The conference Program Committee is soliciting presentation proposals seeki= ng original and unpublished work to continue the tradition initiated by thi= s conference in 1998 of covering cutting-edge topics. Presentations address= ing new technologies and operational experience are solicited from network = equipment vendors, service providers, the research community, government ag= encies, and enterprise=C2=A0 users. In particular, submission in at least t= he following topics areas are of interest

* Cybersecurity, Security of the Cloud and Data Governance
* Softwarization (Integration of SDN and NFV) of the Network and Services * Service Function Chaining
* Mobile and Wireless Packet Infrastructure

Please submit your abstracts to cfp2015@isocore.com

Cheers,
Andy


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h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=7sxb9Db8ix2NTQq2MtCRfDqm6zxqyMzkqCyk96Rd0tg=; b=0sb0uLdO8nrzF/i7mlQ7CYMJ7CWdWui9hVplLG5OwDsjdIZ8FQ25qKtpJUP0QwRha2 D+8XdF1hjIO2rEKJ+CUOgEK4CxfDZhwDpgdJGdy2Vtw6wXs+2pIGH7DBSqos37njnDYB FhVnnQA1+0xCKXwJ0YL97Cyt19Iue+KeMcrUHtNOoVC4pZ7xcV79zMe3QIuosrFVNN3h vq6MzKKzS5vsnmU6K+M0QnCLX47AdaKXjWhEyGu8uqKmAsOsCeYywerACDowXEHPImgx vXVQbsBwKfWVYMPR268Os+nT7G67vNZqenQ9eOx+DWadWfGkPUlhQuwW8KPqp4+qVLQR GLMw== X-Received: by 10.194.179.2 with SMTP id dc2mr12346093wjc.120.1431640816664; Thu, 14 May 2015 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.182.215 with HTTP; Thu, 14 May 2015 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <40746B2300A8FC4AB04EE722A593182B8A0767BD@ONWVEXCHMB04.ciena.com> References: <40746B2300A8FC4AB04EE722A593182B8A0767BD@ONWVEXCHMB04.ciena.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 17:59:56 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Shah, Himanshu" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d195452c682051611da1f Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 22:00:21 -0000 --089e013d195452c682051611da1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Himanshu, If you are insistent in keeping the new TLV and creating a new registry, note that the current text in the second paragraph of section 6 doesn't conform to RFC 5226. Please read that RFC, particularly section 4, and rewrite your section 6 so that your new registry conforms with IANA requirements. As some general examples, you can check out section 8.4 of RFC 6427 and section 14.5 of RFC 6073, among others. You should also make sure that the first paragraph conforms with section 5 of RFC 5226. Thanks, Andy On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Shah, Himanshu wrote: > *I will make the relevant changes and issue a new draft.* > > *Please refer to my earlier mail on difficulty of changing the seq# TLV to > se# field.* > > > > *Thanks,* > > *himanshu* > > > > *From:* Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrew G. Malis > *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 1:04 PM > *To:* pals@ietf.org > *Cc:* draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Pals] PALS WG Last Call for > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00 > > > > This ends the WG last call for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd. Even though > we only had one set of last call comments, the draft has been sufficiently > discussed previously both in meetings and via email that once updated to > address the comments, is ready for submission to the IESG. I'll await a new > revision, and then do the IESG submission. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > I've reviewed the draft, and I have some comments on the IANA > considerations. These should be treated the same as any other last call > comments. > > > > In Section 6, the IANA "Pseudowire Associated Channel Types" registry has > been renamed the "MPLS Generalized Associated Channel (G-ACh) Types > (including Pseudowire Associated Channel Types)" registry. > > > > You should replace "recommended value 0x0028" with "requested value > 0x0028". > > > > Through the draft, you refer to the "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". However, > in Section 6, you refer to it as the "Pseudowire MAC Withdraw OAM Channel". > You should change that to "MAC Withdraw OAM Message". > > > > In the MAC Withdraw OAM Message, you include a "Sequence Number TLV" and > in Section 6, you define a new unnamed registry where "Sequence Number TLV" > is assigned value 0x0001, and that's the only value in this new registry. > However, RFC 7026 discourages the use of ACH TLVs. In addition, there is a > lot of work required to defining a new registry above and beyond what is > currently in your draft, and this is all unnecessary because you only > have one value defined. So I would highly recommend removing the "Sequence > Number TLV" from the MAC Withdraw OAM Message, and simplify it to something > like this: > > > > > > 0 1 2 3 > > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > |0 0 0 1|Version| Reserved |0xZZ MAC Withdraw OAM Message | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | Reserved | TLV Length |A|R| Flags | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | Sequence Number | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | | > > | MAC List TLV | > > ~ MAC Flush Parameter TLV (optional) ~ > > | | > > | | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > > > I do realize that the MAC List and MAC Flush Parameter TLVs are still > present, but they are justified because they carry the same information > that is carried by LDP signaling in RFC 4762. This is very similar to the > PW OAM Message in RFC 6478. > > > > For those of you that haven't yet reviewed this draft, I will be ending > the WG last call tomorrow, you can still get in comments today. > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > > This beings a two-week WG LC for > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00, to complete > on May 6. Please send your comments on the draft to the PALS WG (just > replying to this email would be best). > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > > > > --089e013d195452c682051611da1f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Himanshu,

If you are insistent in keepi= ng the new TLV and creating a new registry, note that the current text in t= he second paragraph of section 6 doesn't conform to RFC 5226. Please re= ad that RFC, particularly section 4, and rewrite your section 6 so that you= r new registry conforms with IANA requirements. As some general examples, y= ou can check out section 8.4 of RFC 6427 and section 14.5 of RFC 6073, amon= g others.

You should also make sure that the first= paragraph conforms with section 5 of RFC 5226.

Th= anks,
Andy

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@cie= na.com> wrote:

I will make the relevant changes and issue a new draft.=

P= lease refer to my earlier mail on difficulty of changing the seq# TLV to se= # field.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

himanshu

=C2=A0

=

From: Pals [ma= ilto:pals-bounce= s@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Thursda= y, May 07, 2015 1:04 PM
To: pals@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-= tp-mac-wd@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals]= PALS WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00

=C2=A0

This ends the WG last call for=C2=A0draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-= mac-wd. Even though we only had one set of last call comments, the draft ha= s been sufficiently discussed previously both in meetings and via email tha= t once updated to address the comments, is ready for submission to the IESG= . I'll await a new revision, and then do the IESG submission.=

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Andy

=C2=A0=

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I've reviewed the draft, and I have some comments on the IANA c= onsiderations. These should be treated the same as any other last call comm= ents.

=C2=A0

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In Section 6, the IANA "Pseudowire A= ssociated Channel Types" registry has been renamed the "MPLS Gene= ralized Associated Channel (G-ACh) Types (including Pseudowire Associated C= hannel Types)" registry.

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I do = realize that the MAC List and MAC Flush Parameter TLVs are still present, b= ut they are justified because they carry the same information that is carri= ed by LDP signaling in RFC 4762. This is very similar to the PW OAM Message= in RFC 6478.

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For those of you that haven't yet reviewed thi= s draft, I will be ending the WG last call tomorrow, you can still get in c= omments today.

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Thanks,

Andy

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On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:<= u>

This beings a two-week WG LC f= or=C2=A0http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-= mac-wd-00, to complete on May 6. Please send your comments on the draft= to the PALS WG (just replying to this email would be best).<= /p>

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--089e013d195452c682051611da1f-- From nobody Mon May 18 02:12:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156771A8852; Mon, 18 May 2015 02:12:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id je7rZG6OhSi1; Mon, 18 May 2015 02:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4814F1A884D; Mon, 18 May 2015 02:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB73B18013E6; Mon, 18 May 2015 11:12:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5559ACFF.3080104@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 11:12:31 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal.all@tools.ietf.org, "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000304020505080605080204" Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: [Pals] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-03 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:12:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000304020505080605080204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-03.txt Reviewer: Loa Andersson Review Date: 2015-05-18 IETF LC End Date: (I don't think that the IETF LC has started) Intended Status: Proposed Standard Summary: - This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be considered prior to publication. Note: I also have a question about a security statement in the draft that I don't know if it has been addressed. Comments: - Overview of the draft quality and readability. The document is technically sound. The document is sometimes a bit hard to read, but I guess that will be sorted out by the RFC Editor. - Anything else that you think will be helpful toward understanding your review. I normally do my reviews by Word with change bars and comments, I've included that file for details. Major Issues: - I put the question on the security statement at the end of the second paragraph in the Introduction here. I'm not sure it is a major issue, but I want to lift to make sure that it is properly discussed. If I understand correctly "..., and is a security risk" refers to the fact that OAM packets might be sent over the attachment circuit(s) if the TTL is not set right. OAM packets on the attachment circuit as the specific problems this could involve is not listed as a security risk in 6073. The security section of 6073 talks about the possibilities that pay load packets are forwarded on to the attachment circuit, but does not say anything about OAM packets. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:06:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060505010501050000050102 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090700090601020304000504" --------------090700090601020304000504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 18/05/2015 10:12, Loa Andersson wrote: Thank you for the review. > > Summary: > > - This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that > should be considered prior to publication. > Note: I also have a question about a security statement in the draft > that I don't know if it has been addressed. > > > Comments: > - Overview of the draft quality and readability. > The document is technically sound. > The document is sometimes a bit hard to read, but I guess that > will be sorted out by the RFC Editor. > > > - Anything else that you think will be helpful toward understanding > your review. > I normally do my reviews by Word with change bars and comments, > I've included that file for details. Please see attached word file with comments on your comments > > Major Issues: > - I put the question on the security statement at the end of the > second paragraph in the Introduction here. I'm not sure it is a > major issue, but I want to lift to make sure that it is properly > discussed. > > If I understand correctly "..., and is a security risk" refers to the > fact that OAM packets might be sent over the attachment circuit(s) if > the TTL is not set right. > > OAM packets on the attachment circuit as the specific problems this > could involve is not listed as a security risk in 6073. The security > section of 6073 talks about the possibilities that pay load packets > are forwarded on to the attachment circuit, but does not say anything > about OAM packets. The threat is called up in 13.1.1 . VCCV Security Considerations of RFC 6073 which talks about VCCV i.e. OAM packets, however this text provides a new solution to the problem. I would like to hear from the ADs on whether this alternate mitigation to the TTL error warrants an update to RFC 6073 being noted. > > > Minor Issues: > - I think I could say "No minor issues found" and say that everything > else is nit, but since some of the thing captured in the word file > are for clarity, e.g. the last paragraph in section 4 (fate sharing) > and the first paragraph in section 5 (what MUST be inspected), so I > guess that there are things that sits on the fence between minor and > nits. However, I think that they are very easy to resolve, in that > respect they can be treated as nits. > - A second minor issue is that I find the Abstract less informative than > I would want, it should be beefed up and clarified a bit. Please see t he word file on the above. > > Nits: > - The rest of the comments in the word file are nits, e.g.: > > -- Naming of the new channel (I think these to names refer to the > same thing > MPLS VCCV Control Channel (CC) > GAL VCCV Control Channel Type > > -- expanding abbreviations the first time they are used > > -- expanding all abbreviations that is not on the RFC Editors > list of well-known All dealt with - Stewart > > /Loa > -- For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html --------------090700090601020304000504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 18/05/2015 10:12, Loa Andersson wrote:

Thank you for the review.

Summary:

- This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that
  should be considered prior to publication.
  Note: I also have a question about a security statement in the draft
  that I don't know if it has been addressed.


Comments:
- Overview of the draft quality and readability.
  The document is technically sound.
  The document is sometimes a bit hard to read, but I guess that
  will be sorted out by the RFC Editor.


- Anything else that you think will be helpful toward understanding
  your review.
  I normally do my reviews by Word with change bars and comments,
  I've included that file for details.

Please see attached word file with comments on your comments

Major Issues:
- I put the question on the security statement at the end of the
  second paragraph in the Introduction here. I'm not sure it is a
  major issue, but I want to lift to make sure that it is properly
  discussed.

  If I understand correctly "..., and is a security risk" refers to the
  fact that OAM packets might be sent over the attachment circuit(s) if
  the TTL is not set right.

  OAM packets on the attachment circuit as the specific problems this
  could involve is not listed as a security risk in 6073. The security
  section of 6073 talks about the possibilities that pay load packets
  are forwarded on to the attachment circuit, but does not say anything
  about OAM packets.

The threat is called up in 
13.1.1.  VCCV Security Considerations

of RFC 6073 which talks about VCCV i.e. OAM packets, however
this text provides a new solution to the problem.

I would like to hear from the ADs on whether this alternate
mitigation to the TTL error warrants an update to RFC 6073
being noted.



Minor Issues:
- I think I could say "No minor issues found" and say that everything
  else is nit, but since some of the thing captured in the word file
  are for clarity, e.g. the last paragraph in section 4 (fate sharing)
  and the first paragraph in section 5 (what MUST be inspected), so I
  guess that there are things that sits on the fence between minor and
  nits. However, I think that they are very easy to resolve, in that
  respect they can be treated as nits.
- A second minor issue is that I find the Abstract less informative than
  I would want, it should be beefed up and clarified a bit.
Please see t he word file on the above.

Nits:
- The rest of the comments in the word file are nits, e.g.:

  -- Naming of the new channel (I think these to names refer to the
     same thing
     MPLS VCCV Control Channel (CC)
     GAL VCCV Control Channel Type

  -- expanding abbreviations the first time they are used

  -- expanding all abbreviations that is not on the RFC Editors
     list of well-known
All dealt with

- Stewart

/Loa 



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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:11:29 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Using A Generic Associated Channel Label as a Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification Channel Indicator Authors : Thomas D. Nadeau Luca Martini Stewart Bryant Filename : draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-04.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2015-05-26 Abstract: This document specifies a new Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification (VCCV) (RFC5085) control channel type for use with pseudowires (PW) carried over an MPLS network. This new channel type uses the Generic Associated Channel Label (GAL) (RFC5586) to distinguish VCCV packets from packets carrying user data. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue May 26 23:51:45 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11531A7022; Tue, 26 May 2015 23:51:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5FdR16FerpFn; Tue, 26 May 2015 23:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767771A70FD; Tue, 26 May 2015 23:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA99B18016BD; Wed, 27 May 2015 08:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55656977.8020007@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 08:51:35 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stbryant@cisco.com, draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal.all@tools.ietf.org, "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" References: <5559ACFF.3080104@pi.nu> <5564A800.8050904@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5564A800.8050904@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-03 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 06:51:42 -0000 Stewart, Thanks for addressing my comments, with the exception of the comment on the abstract, I'm comfortable with how this is don. Abstract - I think you point at a generic problem. only 20 lines in Abstract limits what you can say. However, there are documents that succeed in writing very good Abstracts. Also implying that "everyone that will read this document know what the GAL and VCCV is anyway" is kind of circular. If you find the Abstract and does not get enough information from it is also unlikely that you will read the document. The function of the Abstract is described in section 4.3 of RFC 7322. Among other things is says: "...the Abstract should be complete in itself. It will appear in isolation in publication announcements and in the online index of RFCs." Deborah, This is now in your ball park, let me know if you have questions. /Loa On 2015-05-26 19:06, Stewart Bryant wrote: > On 18/05/2015 10:12, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Thank you for the review. >> >> Summary: >> >> - This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that >> should be considered prior to publication. >> Note: I also have a question about a security statement in the draft >> that I don't know if it has been addressed. >> >> >> Comments: >> - Overview of the draft quality and readability. >> The document is technically sound. >> The document is sometimes a bit hard to read, but I guess that >> will be sorted out by the RFC Editor. >> >> >> - Anything else that you think will be helpful toward understanding >> your review. >> I normally do my reviews by Word with change bars and comments, >> I've included that file for details. > > Please see attached word file with comments on your comments >> >> Major Issues: >> - I put the question on the security statement at the end of the >> second paragraph in the Introduction here. I'm not sure it is a >> major issue, but I want to lift to make sure that it is properly >> discussed. >> >> If I understand correctly "..., and is a security risk" refers to the >> fact that OAM packets might be sent over the attachment circuit(s) if >> the TTL is not set right. >> >> OAM packets on the attachment circuit as the specific problems this >> could involve is not listed as a security risk in 6073. The security >> section of 6073 talks about the possibilities that pay load packets >> are forwarded on to the attachment circuit, but does not say anything >> about OAM packets. > > The threat is called up in > > > 13.1.1 . > VCCV Security Considerations > > > of RFC 6073 which talks about VCCV i.e. OAM packets, however > this text provides a new solution to the problem. > > I would like to hear from the ADs on whether this alternate > mitigation to the TTL error warrants an update to RFC 6073 > being noted. > > >> >> >> Minor Issues: >> - I think I could say "No minor issues found" and say that everything >> else is nit, but since some of the thing captured in the word file >> are for clarity, e.g. the last paragraph in section 4 (fate sharing) >> and the first paragraph in section 5 (what MUST be inspected), so I >> guess that there are things that sits on the fence between minor and >> nits. However, I think that they are very easy to resolve, in that >> respect they can be treated as nits. >> - A second minor issue is that I find the Abstract less informative than >> I would want, it should be beefed up and clarified a bit. > Please see t he word file on the above. >> >> Nits: >> - The rest of the comments in the word file are nits, e.g.: >> >> -- Naming of the new channel (I think these to names refer to the >> same thing >> MPLS VCCV Control Channel (CC) >> GAL VCCV Control Channel Type >> >> -- expanding abbreviations the first time they are used >> >> -- expanding all abbreviations that is not on the RFC Editors >> list of well-known > All dealt with > > - Stewart >> >> /Loa >> > > > -- > For corporate legal information go to: > > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sat May 30 09:18:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE031A8AE1; Sat, 30 May 2015 09:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JWLlvNk8_Zcc; Sat, 30 May 2015 09:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E237B1A8ADE; Sat, 30 May 2015 09:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.229.24] (EHLO alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-7.2.4-5) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 7b2e9655.0.6391775.00-2154.17246753.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Sat, 30 May 2015 16:18:00 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 5569e2b877d3bcf6-2452c1f9a617426eaaa6dbeb0086f0f4ef4c88cf Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t4UGHwHT026369; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:17:58 -0400 Received: from mlpi408.sfdc.sbc.com (mlpi408.sfdc.sbc.com [130.9.128.240]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t4UGHqoa026336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 May 2015 12:17:55 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUBAB.ITServices.sbc.com (MISOUT7MSGHUBAB.itservices.sbc.com [130.9.129.146]) by mlpi408.sfdc.sbc.com (RSA Interceptor); Sat, 30 May 2015 16:17:39 GMT Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSRDE.ITServices.sbc.com ([169.254.5.209]) by MISOUT7MSGHUBAB.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.9.129.146]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:17:39 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "pals-chairs@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7361 (4380) Thread-Index: AQHQmf+CVPIwnPviwEyPUAQy/uPhL52UsiBQ Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 16:17:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150529110412.CA998180092@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20150529110412.CA998180092@rfc-editor.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.28.128] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=RJUE6fe+ c=1 sm=1 a=dhB6nF3YHL5t/Ixux6cINA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=pa107VyzBN0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP] X-AnalysisOut: [7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32RAAAA:8 a=h1PgugrvaO0A:10 a=BqEg4_3jA] X-AnalysisOut: [AAA:8 a=gxZvrgisAAAA:8 a=vI_dY4GQAAAA:8 a=z9tbli-vAAAA:8 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=cH6R9-kdAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=AUd_NHdVAAAA:8 a=ZsyXEV] X-AnalysisOut: [tvAAAA:8 a=i0EeH86SAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=Qqg-o3CjKc43l] X-AnalysisOut: [ffrzG0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mhd2NDuUijAA:10 a=MELNoxGCyx] X-AnalysisOut: [JtbD3B:21 a=9FziD98ubBzQQtdI:21] X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2014051901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.229.24] Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] FW: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7361 (4380) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 16:18:02 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:04 AM To: pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com; florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com; osto= kes@extremenetworks.com; geraldine.calvignac@orange.com; don.fedyk@hp.com; = akatlas@gmail.com; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; aretana@cisco.com; giheron@cisco.co= m; nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Cc: rainsword.wang@huawei.com; l2vpn@ietf.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7361 (4380) The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7361, "LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virt= ual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D7361&eid=3D4380 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: rainsword Section: 5.2 Original Text ------------- At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the MAC Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1: o PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x0407 Length: Value length in octets. At least one B-MAC address MUST be present in the list. Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses. These are the source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS instance that originated the MAC withdraw message. It will be used to identify the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-TLV. o PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x0408 Length: Value length in octets. Zero indicates an empty I-SID list. An empty I-SID list means that the flushing applies to all the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC TLV. Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent the I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to take place. Corrected Text -------------- At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the MAC Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1: o PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x01 Length: Value length in octets. At least one B-MAC address MUST be present in the list. Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses. These are the source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS instance that originated the MAC withdraw message. It will be used to identify the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-TLV. o PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x02 Length: Value length in octets. Zero indicates an empty I-SID list. An empty I-SID list means that the flushing applies to all the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC TLV. Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent the I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to take place. Notes ----- Type definition was error. The PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV abd I-SID List Sub-TL= V are only support for one byte, as defined in section 5.1.1 MAC flush para= meters TLV. This error was imported from draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-12. For this= version, it submit the 2 sub-tlv to IANA for alloc id. But the two kinds t= lv were sub-tlv, not LDP TLV Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20 -------------------------------------- RFC7361 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13) -------------------------------------- Title : LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal i= n a Hierarchical Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS) Publication Date : September 2014 Author(s) : P. Dutta, F. Balus, O. Stokes, G. Calvignac, D. Fedyk Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Sun May 31 06:40:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CAE1A1B4A; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id biIaVY3L3F0K; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD4E61A1A3E; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wifw1 with SMTP id w1so74746457wif.0; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:28:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=aSdi6kkNT+J6fWJmqR6RslG0Ri5O+VvE0jsK78xuiUU=; b=KL/woJLrUn897iYpH/JrM11uatL81suCApejWGJ4o5fjKS2i/GwcLYoxQ+VmBeZPc9 HS0mh27jWa+yTvKuWcNS2IQS58yKjQlIZnqcqn0eliuuhv6hQviiFP2GBj2KGPfXndyC Q6gj5a1HrJ76e367+EhzBvIZyMw5rHjhead+5f+MMmLgZwCgNvJQpt69kqApcMWLImAm j0uXXyxpTCKgPc28wAMhzRmC+y2kLuyPEpixO1HBSprOx4fZtfF1eFFVjG5g5xEs+E4+ SxymQHVsncMWC0UHdNN2D9B7aUAxVNEvLOyiWfMEtauA32HzC82WcGNpC7L23r/eqTxs HvmQ== X-Received: by 10.180.14.193 with SMTP id r1mr12073165wic.47.1433078886368; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:28:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.65.135 with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:27:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 09:27:45 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04138a9df508c4051760adb6 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 31 May 2015 06:40:54 -0700 Cc: "Giles Heron \(giheron\)" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A \(ATTLABS\)" , rainsword , ostokes@extremenetworks.com, geraldine.calvignac@orange.com, Alia Atlas , "Fedyk, Don" , florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com, "Bitar, Nabil N" , "Alvaro Retana \(aretana\)" , pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com, Stewart Bryant Subject: [Pals] Question regarding RFC7361 implementations (received errata) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:28:10 -0000 --f46d04138a9df508c4051760adb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm sending this to the PALS and BESS lists in the hopes that it'll be seen by RFC 7361 implementors. I've forwarded a received errata report regarding RFC 7361 MAC Flush Parameters sub-TLVs. I agree with the errata report in that sub-TLVs can only have an 8-bit type number, as defined in section 5.1.1, which leads me to wonder if there are implementations, and if so, how the sub-TLVs were actually implemented. I'm also concerned about the effect on existing implementations as a result of verifying the errata report. Please respond on the PALS list, we'll try to keep the conversation there. And thanks to Rainsword for spotting the discrepancy and tracking down its source. In the absence of any responses, I plan to verify the errata report. Thanks, Andy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: RFC Errata System Date: Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:04 AM Subject: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7361 (4380) To: pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com, florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com, ostokes@extremenetworks.com, geraldine.calvignac@orange.com, don.fedyk@hp.com, akatlas@gmail.com, db3546@att.com, aretana@cisco.com, giheron@cisco.com, nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7361, "LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7361&eid=4380 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: rainsword Section: 5.2 Original Text ------------- At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the MAC Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1: o PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x0407 Length: Value length in octets. At least one B-MAC address MUST be present in the list. Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses. These are the source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS instance that originated the MAC withdraw message. It will be used to identify the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-TLV. o PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x0408 Length: Value length in octets. Zero indicates an empty I-SID list. An empty I-SID list means that the flushing applies to all the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC TLV. Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent the I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to take place. Corrected Text -------------- At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the MAC Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1: o PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x01 Length: Value length in octets. At least one B-MAC address MUST be present in the list. Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses. These are the source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS instance that originated the MAC withdraw message. It will be used to identify the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-TLV. o PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x02 Length: Value length in octets. Zero indicates an empty I-SID list. An empty I-SID list means that the flushing applies to all the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC TLV. Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent the I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to take place. Notes ----- Type definition was error. The PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV abd I-SID List Sub-TLV are only support for one byte, as defined in section 5.1.1 MAC flush parameters TLV. This error was imported from draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-12. For this version, it submit the 2 sub-tlv to IANA for alloc id. But the two kinds tlv were sub-tlv, not LDP TLV Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC7361 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13) -------------------------------------- Title : LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS) Publication Date : September 2014 Author(s) : P. Dutta, F. Balus, O. Stokes, G. Calvignac, D. Fedyk Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG --f46d04138a9df508c4051760adb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sending this to the PALS and BESS lists in th= e hopes that it'll be seen by RFC 7361 implementors.=C2=A0
I've forwarded a received errata report regarding RFC 7361= MAC Flush Parameters sub-TLVs.

I agree with the e= rrata report in that sub-TLVs can only have an 8-bit type number, as define= d in section 5.1.1, which leads me to wonder if there are implementations, = and if so, how the sub-TLVs were actually implemented. I'm also concern= ed about the effect on existing implementations as a result of verifying th= e errata report.=C2=A0

Please respond on the PALS = list, we'll try to keep the conversation there. And thanks to Rainsword= for spotting the discrepancy and tracking down its source.

<= /div>
In the absence of any responses, I plan to verify the errata repo= rt.

Thanks,
Andy

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>=
Date: Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:04 AM
Subject: [Technical Errata= Reported] RFC7361 (4380)
To: pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com, florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com, ostokes@extremenetworks.com, geraldine.calvignac@orange.com, don.fedyk@hp.com, akatlas@gmail.com, db3546@att.com, aretana@cisc= o.com, giheron@cisco.com, nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com
C= c: l2vpn@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org


The fol= lowing errata report has been submitted for RFC7361,
"LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical= Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS)".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc= =3D7361&eid=3D4380

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Type: Technical
Reported by: rainsword <rai= nsword.wang@huawei.com>

Section: 5.2

Original Text
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the= MAC
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x0407

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 At least one B-M= AC address MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be present in the list.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses.=C2=A0 = These are the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS inst= ance that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 originated the MAC withdraw message.=C2=A0 It will be = used to identify
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-= TLV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x0408

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 Zero indicates a= n empty I-SID
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 list.=C2=A0 An empty I-SID list means that the flushin= g applies to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC T= LV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent t= he
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to tak= e place.

Corrected Text
--------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the= MAC
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x01
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 At least one B-M= AC address MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be present in the list.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses.=C2=A0 = These are the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS inst= ance that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 originated the MAC withdraw message.=C2=A0 It will be = used to identify
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-= TLV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x02
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 Zero indicates a= n empty I-SID
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 list.=C2=A0 An empty I-SID list means that the flushin= g applies to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC T= LV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent t= he
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to tak= e place.

Notes
-----
Type definition was error. The PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV abd I-SID List Sub-TL= V are only support for one byte, as defined in section 5.1.1 MAC flush para= meters TLV.
This error was imported from draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-12. For this= version, it submit the 2 sub-tlv to IANA for alloc id. But the two kinds t= lv were sub-tlv, not LDP TLV

Instructions:
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This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, ple= ase
use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)
can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.

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RFC7361 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13)
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Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: LDP Extension= s for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virtual Private LA= N Service (H-VPLS)
Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : September 2014
Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: P. Dutta, F. Balus, O. = Stokes, G. Calvignac, D. Fedyk
Category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Layer 2 Virtual Pr= ivate Networks
Area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Routing
Stream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : IETF
Verifying Party=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: IESG


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