From nobody Mon Jun 1 08:27:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC061A1EF4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lVG5nolJTCY5 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A6211A1B00 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:27:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1890; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1433172453; x=1434382053; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E2QO1DNkONsBhWAmMbc2OwkH0I/vVU/Fis7iz8vbVUU=; b=cxuQndpFuVNWvJf2Q3wLX3CSSi0Bm97Ki24e61y7o/I0GYliP7zoQ14V tBY9+ty/T4EgKR64SQtdg93wJT26e4lUtzO5+lguJ0oUNXhN9rRhZ4xZ4 lhhPiW+YXnUrTbcKaEv9eanuo2FLasxweCQlQQ2m+UjKd3ZYynv1S8iR4 0=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,533,1427760000"; d="scan'208";a="506494574" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-3.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2015 15:27:31 +0000 Received: from [10.55.98.189] (ams-stbryant-88112.cisco.com [10.55.98.189]) by aer-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t51FRUHD015486; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 15:27:30 GMT Message-ID: <556C79E2.7090900@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:27:30 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loa Andersson , "Ryoo, Jeong-dong " , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" References: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> <5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9@SMTP2.etri.info> <5549D3C8.3070707@pi.nu> <554A2B02.4060303@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <554A2B02.4060303@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:27:34 -0000 Authors I am closing this WGLC LC. I think that Sasha raises a valid point and it would we add a short note somewhere as other may wonder about the same point. Please post an update picking this up and I will continue the publications process. - Stewart On 06/05/2015 15:53, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Apologies > > I will add a few more days in case anyone missed it. > > Stewart > > On 06/05/2015 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote: >> Folks, >> >> ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name >> in the subject. >> >> Please review and comment! >> >> /Loa >> >> PS >> >> BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)! >> >> >> On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong wrote: >>> Support. >>> Jeong-dong >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> *보낸 사람 : *"Stewart Bryant" >>> *보낸 날짜 : *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09:00 ) >>> *받는 사람 : *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org >>> , pals@ietf.org >>> >>> *참조 : * >>> *제목 : *[Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection >>> >>> We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. >>> >>> I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile >>> I would like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself. >>> >>> This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. >>> >>> The draft can be found at >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ >>> >>> - Stewart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pals mailing list >>> Pals@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >> > > -- For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html From nobody Mon Jun 1 09:49:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2043D1B2ECA for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:49:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SkYtgBDuBUiB for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA8281B2EBB for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibdq8 with SMTP id dq8so35398507wib.1 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 09:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hSDBkURcawjqcKqVQEAH0y3SSitl1GiPu3svaVqoiPQ=; b=ID80kS4KLv0HZYNh1kQqiYjbDRt7j3Nw4Q+wwtgDHv2eKNVs5JbQwYlL80iTa/J6XC ZIeUyOI5zkhIipUUni+hxKhdHBxaX0JS7yTFmbotk5TwYT9QU7xKBkqq+m+u4AVgDGiu u/Zodv7Dx/uvvUIo2aWcxWEHKlJ03IPIX0GbOBassU5xqG8cr9OPPwAjhsp2k0o9yCA/ 5RmXF/JLALD1cIUIG4vEnwbz5A8dYnhsHsnVr7gDWkA8Bti9DoAUCCvcAs6YbpiWdLMT HnNcDZFEXiQS9kk6nutLe80NDGxCx8nB2cfJNCDJsfDB3RTv7/7wSqvKNwIkcQW2aK1/ 8mtw== X-Received: by 10.194.184.79 with SMTP id es15mr41147650wjc.112.1433177393551; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 09:49:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.65.135 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:49:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <556C79E2.7090900@cisco.com> References: <55436478.9090201@cisco.com> <5B4A6CBE3924BB41A3BEE462A8E0B75A291470F9@SMTP2.etri.info> <5549D3C8.3070707@pi.nu> <554A2B02.4060303@cisco.com> <556C79E2.7090900@cisco.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: Stewart Bryant Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b8738d0715f0b0517779ded Archived-At: Cc: "Ryoo, Jeong-dong" , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org" , Loa Andersson Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC on (Re: ) draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:49:57 -0000 --047d7b8738d0715f0b0517779ded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stewart, Thanks, will do. I'll add it to the introduction. Expect to see it shortly. Cheers, Andy On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > Authors > > I am closing this WGLC LC. > > I think that Sasha raises a valid point and it would we add > a short note somewhere as other may wonder about the > same point. > > Please post an update picking this up and I will > continue the publications process. > > - Stewart > > > On 06/05/2015 15:53, Stewart Bryant wrote: > >> Apologies >> >> I will add a few more days in case anyone missed it. >> >> Stewart >> >> On 06/05/2015 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name >>> in the subject. >>> >>> Please review and comment! >>> >>> /Loa >>> >>> PS >>> >>> BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)! >>> >>> >>> On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong wrote: >>> >>>> Support. >>>> Jeong-dong >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>>> >>>> *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C : *"Stewart Bryant" >>>> *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EB=82=A0=EC=A7=9C : *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09:00= ) >>>> *=EB=B0=9B=EB=8A=94 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C : *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protec= tion@tools.ietf.org >>>> , pals@ietf.org >>>> >>>> *=EC=B0=B8=EC=A1=B0 : * >>>> *=EC=A0=9C=EB=AA=A9 : *[Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection >>>> >>>> We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR. >>>> >>>> I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile >>>> I would like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself. >>>> >>>> This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015. >>>> >>>> The draft can be found at >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ >>>> >>>> - Stewart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pals mailing list >>>> Pals@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > For corporate legal information go to: > > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > --047d7b8738d0715f0b0517779ded Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stewart,

Thanks, will do. I'll add = it to the introduction. Expect to see it shortly.

= Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Stewart Bryant <stbrya= nt@cisco.com> wrote:

Authors

I am closing this WGLC LC.

I think that Sasha raises a valid point and it would we add
a short note somewhere as other may wonder about the
same point.

Please post an update picking this up and I will
continue the publications process.

- Stewart


On 06/05/2015 15:53, Stewart Bryant wrote:
Apologies

I will add a few more days in case anyone missed it.

Stewart

On 06/05/2015 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote:
Folks,

ooops I almost missed the wglc since there were only the draft name
in the subject.

Please review and comment!

/Loa

PS

BTW - I support the document (as co-author) :)!


On 2015-05-06 10:05, Ryoo, Jeong-dong=C2=A0 wrote:
Support.
Jeong-dong



------------------------------------------------------------------------ *=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C : *"Stewart Bryant" <stbryant@cisco.com>
*=EB=B3=B4=EB=82=B8 =EB=82=A0=EC=A7=9C : *2015-05-01 20:33:25 ( +09:00 ) *=EB=B0=9B=EB=8A=94 =EC=82=AC=EB=9E=8C : *draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-p= rotection@tools.ietf.org
<draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection@tools.ietf.org>, pals@ietf.org
<pals@ietf.org>= ;
*=EC=B0=B8=EC=A1=B0 : *
*=EC=A0=9C=EB=AA=A9 : *[Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection

We have heard back from all the authors regarding IPR.

I will continue the WG IPR poll until 12 May 2015, meanwhile
I would like to start the WG Last Call on the text itself.

This Last Call will close on 18th May 2015.

The draft can be found at

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-p= w-protection/

- Stewart




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Pals mailing list
Pals@ietf.org
ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals





--
For corporate legal information go to:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/c= ri/index.html

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--047d7b8738d0715f0b0517779ded-- From nobody Mon Jun 1 11:44:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFED41B310D; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zwePdLU-8mpe; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D5A1B310A; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150601184426.21380.92067.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:44:26 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:44:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires Authors : Andrew G. Malis Loa Andersson Huub van Helvoort Jongyoon Shin Lei Wang Alessandro D'Alessandro Filename : draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2015-06-01 Abstract: In MPLS and MPLS-TP environments, statically provisioned Single- Segment Pseudowires (SS-PWs) are protected against tunnel failure via MPLS-level and MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection. With statically provisioned Multi-Segment Pseudowires (MS-PWs), each segment of the MS-PW is likewise protected from tunnel failures via MPLS-level and MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection. However, static MS-PWs are not protected end-to-end against failure of one of the switching PEs (S-PEs) along the path of the MS-PW. This document describes how to achieve this protection via redundant MS-PWs by updating the existing procedures in RFC 6870. It also contains an optional approach based on MPLS-TP Linear Protection. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 1 11:50:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16BD1B3132 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:50:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WR63tLq60xa7 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD9B21B3130 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibut5 with SMTP id ut5so46982461wib.1 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:50:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=1nBo4/J8l3DCQ+YpeqsuBTGkFVCktfLBS3v64oPsa5s=; b=OcsTYWeqIKWSRGJVUaQ0OP4DxMvWkAo01fUjJWpRj2yxkvQKriZx/fdSSU5Y/os8KK XOaFqx5STMrjBPUMypK7gLVeKAzUzkAcqewQvBEQkU+RhuFLBik+TqkdIBmKw8WMrUC+ DDNv4gaDi/pK6WzGKEd+hWVMMsDC1KRuW8zVv5/j4rdzfdB/fGZS0SwkJFSYJf/UNZj+ rKnafVo9wAi7yyP68vIQcmpDrXViF1P7ao3kxdk8hjl4cnt4kjdvFbVwlgurgYEV2QP2 l3vNodtRxUSkZgXPjG5mmDlrfLq1AgUN0wXWPC5FTFvotof4UDwRsFrfmzbcuYLsd84S 7iiw== X-Received: by 10.194.11.73 with SMTP id o9mr44459474wjb.116.1433184642401; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:50:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.65.135 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:50:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150601184426.21380.92067.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20150601184426.21380.92067.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: To: Stewart Bryant , "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b4507e0820a890517794de0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:50:54 -0000 --047d7b4507e0820a890517794de0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This revision adds a paragraph to the introduction describing how it differs from draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe, and also adds the new reference. Cheers, Andy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:44 PM Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02.txt To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pals@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires Authors : Andrew G. Malis Loa Andersson Huub van Helvoort Jongyoon Shin Lei Wang Alessandro D'Alessandro Filename : draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2015-06-01 Abstract: In MPLS and MPLS-TP environments, statically provisioned Single- Segment Pseudowires (SS-PWs) are protected against tunnel failure via MPLS-level and MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection. With statically provisioned Multi-Segment Pseudowires (MS-PWs), each segment of the MS-PW is likewise protected from tunnel failures via MPLS-level and MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection. However, static MS-PWs are not protected end-to-end against failure of one of the switching PEs (S-PEs) along the path of the MS-PW. This document describes how to achieve this protection via redundant MS-PWs by updating the existing procedures in RFC 6870. It also contains an optional approach based on MPLS-TP Linear Protection. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-ms-pw-protection-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt --047d7b4507e0820a890517794de0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This revision adds a paragraph to the introduction describ= ing how it differs from draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe, and also adds the n= ew reference.

Cheers,
Andy

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Andr= ew G. Malis
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Loa Andersson
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Huub van Helvoort
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jongyoon Shin
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lei Wang
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Alessandro D'Alessandro
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-pals-ms-pw-protection-02.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 8
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2015-06-01

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0In MPLS and MPLS-TP environments, statically provisioned Singl= e-
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Segment Pseudowires (SS-PWs) are protected against tunnel fail= ure via
=C2=A0 =C2=A0MPLS-level and MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection.=C2=A0 With sta= tically
=C2=A0 =C2=A0provisioned Multi-Segment Pseudowires (MS-PWs), each segment o= f the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0MS-PW is likewise protected from tunnel failures via MPLS-leve= l and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0MPLS-TP-level tunnel protection.=C2=A0 However, static MS-PWs = are not
=C2=A0 =C2=A0protected end-to-end against failure of one of the switching P= Es
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(S-PEs) along the path of the MS-PW.=C2=A0 This document descr= ibes how to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0achieve this protection via redundant MS-PWs by updating the e= xisting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0procedures in RFC 6870.=C2=A0 It also contains an optional app= roach based
=C2=A0 =C2=A0on MPLS-TP Linear Protection.


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There's also a htmlized version available at:
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--047d7b4507e0820a890517794de0-- From nobody Mon Jun 1 14:47:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818541A00B8 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cd6KGBv1C7Kg for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6E361A00B6 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:47:26 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79086d000001909-a2-556c6d7b0efa Received: from EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.78]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 07.CC.06409.B7D6C655; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:34:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.78]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:47:25 -0400 From: David Sinicrope To: "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague Thread-Index: AQHQnLSLEYhFo3v9DUGKMXUHQBE1sg== Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:47:24 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.8.150116 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D192492CEFB5davidsinicropeericssoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPn25Nbk6owUM+i9PPT7FZrPm3jsni 3NM5jA7MHlN+b2T12DnrLrvHkiU/mQKYo7hsUlJzMstSi/TtErgyVs/fzFhww7Pi8I1LjA2M nY5djJwcEgImEh83LGGGsMUkLtxbz9bFyMUhJHCUUeLvnifMEM4yRomuy5PZQKrYgDrWbdzD AmKLCChL7Do/hRHEZhbwlJh0p5cVxBYW0JE4sOYdUD0HUI2hxNnvDhDlehL/t8wCG8MioCIx 4fxSsHJeAQuJ1bMOsoPYjEBHfD+1hglipLjErSfzmSCOE5BYsuc81KGiEi8f/wPrFQWaeWjW RxaIuJLEx9/z2UHWMgvESkw+nAYxXlDi5MwnLBMYRWYhmToLoWoWkiqIEgOJ9+fmM0PY2hLL Fr6GsvUlNn45ywhhW0tcmz6TCVnNAkaOVYwcpcWpZbnpRoabGIExdkyCzXEH44JPlocYBTgY lXh4FXyyQ4VYE8uKK3MPMUpzsCiJ815UDQkVEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2KLyrNSS0+xMjEwSnVwOhT FnvRRXxC19Wf71+vaM7faGHRIVB460uiH/unm8uXHSm/tmH7JXHTa7q2UhF9F1buECiI+tx1 /uRWLfbJf2KyD/4ofhR56lJ+yXNHE7lp94p4q3as0Mk6xHte4Veic99Lvs4PnhoMgRPOnNmQ Whv8bf9up0rt3c05BdMldR/+1Ht6c8G5zvNKLMUZiYZazEXFiQD+uNX0kgIAAA== Archived-At: Cc: Andrew Malis , Stewart Bryant Subject: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 21:47:28 -0000 --_000_D192492CEFB5davidsinicropeericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, It=B9s that time again. If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, please reply = to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. Please use this form and please reply to this email with the subject intact= . (Not doing so probably means your request will not trigger the filter I = use to identify PALS slot requests and be lost in my email, never to be fou= nd. :-) Form: 1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): 2. URL to your draft on Datatracker =96 you only need to provide the file n= ame to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pw= e3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/): 3. brief statement of objectives and issues to be discussed and resolved vi= a the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address security issu= es and get direction from the WG): 4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min): 5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Thanks! Dave --_000_D192492CEFB5davidsinicropeericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

It=B9s that time again. 

 

If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, ple= ase reply to this email (subject intact) completing the fo= rm below.   

 

Please use this form and please reply to this email with the subject intact.  (Not doing so prob= ably means your request will not trigger the filter I use to identify = PALS slot requests and be lost in my email, never to be found. :-)

 

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--_000_D192492CEFB5davidsinicropeericssoncom_-- From nobody Tue Jun 2 02:54:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0741B2A21; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 02:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.301 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pQrgG9vt5dXi; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 02:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF731B2A20; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 02:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wifw1 with SMTP id w1so137682961wif.0; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 02:54:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZnZvYZa8i+b2TOaPZPcuurwM4WZEqW0RF/fZOe4/6dI=; b=VgRBouTatfzxanKXO8Y/ZaCEhR5EfPDPKKZ3MycZNlsA9yEBpsB/DV8fE3ZAXkxibM c77qiRrCdMLfwJWVtwvmPxn7gM0pSNCV+V86KEqXHrs+6YAxPA798DtYziLjCTb35prx YiKxAOncr+C5FzC6CYM9o1H4e0eyp2nYzSl8REvpmLJ/u6Dv22qNzIaxUAiScBhfY0rb umF9eyAHecASA+wMAm7i4KEpHk7sCMf5mqqB0qB1BwIZz25g6MwPc/9r3QNO5cN3BTVq Dcj3hMQ+7DMSA4DalQO2sh1qPs/jNHEe2NcRb4HwZSgPzooACsOIZiNz3x4Kg0AVtu0q C1DQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.248.227 with SMTP id yp3mr48505982wjc.32.1433238876456; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 02:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.128.196 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 02:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:54:36 +0800 Message-ID: From: Lizhong Jin To: rtg-ads Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0141a8401c0ef4051785ee25 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-dir , pals , draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Pals] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-07.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:54:41 -0000 --089e0141a8401c0ef4051785ee25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-07.txt Reviewer: Lizhong Jin Review Date: 2nd June IETF LC End Date: Intended Status: Standards Track *Summary:* I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication. *Comments:* Overall, although there is no major technical issues for this draft, it is strongly suggested to improve the English description to make it neat, and easier to be understood. *Major Issues:* No major issues found *Minor Issues:* 1. Abstract: =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D should be =E2=80=9Cservice=E2= =80=9D 2. Abstract: =E2=80=9Cthe MAC address based Ethernet forwarding engin= e and the PW work in the same way as before=E2=80=9D, you should tell the detail = of =E2=80=9Cbefore=E2=80=9D here, or add a reference here. 3. Abstract: =E2=80=9Cis=E2=80=9D should be =E2=80=9Care=E2=80=9D 4. Section3 overall, suggest to reorganize section 3. Split the section into two parts: 1. Introduction; 2. Motivation 5. Section3: =E2=80=9Cin fact, there is no exact corresponding termin= ology in IETF yet.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cterminology=E2=80=9D could not be a reason. You= should list the technology reason if you want to compare. 6. Section3: =E2=80=9CThough there were proposals on using PW control= word or PWs to indicate the root/leaf attribute of an E-Tree frame, both methods are limited in that they are only applicable to "VPLS only" networks.=E2=80= =9D You should have reference for other proposals. But I don=E2=80=99t think you ne= ed to list these proposals, instead only say the motivation of the VLAN based solution. 7. Section4.1: =E2=80=9CFig. 1 and Fig. 2 (both figures are extracted= from [RFC6246])=E2=80=9D. You should switch the number of Fig1 and Fig2, since F= ig1 is a detail description of Fig2. 8. Section4.1: =E2=80=9CTherefore, the association between an AC port= and a PW on a VSI is difficult, sometimes even impossible.=E2=80=9D Could not und= erstand what=E2=80=99s the purpose of this sentence here? 9. Section4.1: =E2=80=9CAssuming this mechanism is implemented in the= bridge module, it is quite straightforward to infer a VPLS PE model with two VSIs to support the E-Tree (as shown in Fig. 3).=E2=80=9D Could move the analysi= s to motivation section, or removed. And the logic here is not right. The leaf/root VLAN indication is only for filtering, not bridging. So it is not accurate to have Root/Leave S-VLAN here to get the enhanced model. 10. Section4.2: =E2=80=9Cand optionally MAY be added with another root S-= VLAN.=E2=80=9D When and why add another root S-VLAN here? And why use terminology =E2=80= =9Croot S-VLAN=E2=80=9D, not root VLAN as indicated in Figure4? 11. Section4.2: =E2=80=9CFor an S-VLAN tagged port, the S-VLAN tag in the Ethernet frames received from the root ACs SHOULD be translated to the root S-VLAN in the VPLS network domain=E2=80=9D. The description of S-VLAN tagge= d port is not accurate here. I think here, you want to refer to a port receiving a packet with both S-VLAN & C-VLAN. So it is better to say, =E2=80=9Cwhen rec= eiving a packet with both S&C VLAN=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D. Same suggestion to previous pa= ragraphs. If S-VLAN only packet received, still translate S-VLAN to root S-VLAN? 12. Section4.2: =E2=80=9Cthe E-Tree attribute may also be indicated with = two I-SID tags in the bridge module=E2=80=9D. Suggest to remove since it is not= part of this document. 13. Section5.2: =E2=80=9CFor both methods, VLAN mapping parameters from a= remote PE can be provisioned or determined by a signaling protocol as described in Section 6 when a PW is being established=E2=80=9D. For the global method, w= hy we need signaling? 14. Section5.3.1: =E2=80=9Ci.e., the local leaf VLAN in a frame is transl= ated to the remote leaf VLAN; the local root VLAN in a frame is translated to the remote root VLAN=E2=80=9D. Here you should refer back to section 4. 15. Section5.3.2: =E2=80=9CUpon receiving frames on the PW, add a VLAN ta= g with a value of the local root VLAN to the frames.=E2=80=9D Not understand here. D= oes that mean all receiving frames will be considered to be from root? Then how to isolate traffic between two leaves? 16. Section5.3.3: =E2=80=9CIf a PE is in the Optimized Mode for a PW, upo= n transmit=E2=80=9D. Suggest to: If a PE is in the Optimized Mode for a PW, u= pon transmit to leaf only nodes. 17. Section6.1: =E2=80=9CIf the bit V is set, and the PE is capable of VL= AN mapping, then the PE with the minimum IP address MUST set VLAN-Mapping-Mode to TRUE;=E2=80=9D Which IP address? The address in the LDP IP header? 18. Section6.1: =E2=80=9C2) If the P bit is set, then:=E2=80=9D If above = is pseudo code, then the code format should be more formal, to make it clear and neat. 19. Section6.1: =E2=80=9CIf the PE is a leaf-only node itself, then a lab= el release message with a status code "Leaf to Leaf PW released" is sent to the peer PE and exit the process;=E2=80=9D When both PE release the mapping= . Then when one PE1 change the setting to have both root&leaf, and send label mapping to PE2, will PE2 be triggered to send label mapping to PE1? According to RFC5036, I think the answer is no. You need additional mechanism here. 20. Section6.1: the E-Tree Sub-TLV parameters updating should be also mentioned in this section. 21. Section6.2: =E2=80=9CData plane in the VPLS is the same as described = in Section 4.2 of [RFC4761], and data plane processing for a PW is the same as described at the end of Section 6.1.=E2=80=9D Why same as RFC4761 here? Don= =E2=80=99t you have VLAN-Mapping-Mode and other mode data plane operation? 22. Section8: This section is too simple to remove it. Or please add more detail. 23. Section9: New security concern will include: since the outmost VLAN is leaf or root, it is easy to parse the leaf and root VLAN information. 24. Section10: The allocated value should be =E2=80=9CTBD=E2=80=9D. Regards Lizhong --089e0141a8401c0ef4051785ee25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --089e0141a8401c0ef4051785ee25-- From nobody Fri Jun 5 01:03:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6101B2D5F; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SqMp-AvPMTPg; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274BB1B2D5B; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150605080334.19174.45159.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 01:03:34 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 08:03:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extension to LDP-VPLS for Ethernet Broadcast and Multicast Authors : Frederic Jounay Yuji Kamite Zhihua Liu Manuel Paul Ruediger Kunze Mach(Guoyi) Chen Lizhong Jin Filename : draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2015-06-04 Abstract: This document proposes a simple extension to LDP-VPLS to improve bandwidth efficiency for Ethernet broadcast/multicast traffic within a carrier's network. It makes use of unidirectional point-to-multipoint PseudoWires to minimise payload frame duplication on physical links. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Jun 6 02:04:10 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229A01B2AE1 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 02:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gRpSbWiMKkX3 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 02:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s16.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE2891B2AE0 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 02:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU175-W31 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 6 Jun 2015 02:04:05 -0700 X-TMN: [7lHEoz3hsAHhZ4/gYTmiQEjELPStUpFb] X-Originating-Email: [raymond.key@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5e1e536f-fa75-4a13-aeff-acf4fec2b330_" From: Raymond Key Sender: To: "pals@ietf.org" , "stbryant@cisco.com" , "agmalis@gmail.com" Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 19:34:05 +1030 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20150605080334.19174.45159.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20150605080334.19174.45159.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2015 09:04:05.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD98FD70:01D0A037] Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:04:09 -0000 --_5e1e536f-fa75-4a13-aeff-acf4fec2b330_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi WG Chairs=2C =20 I would like to request WG last call for this draft. =20 Regards=2C Raymond Key =20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Date: Fri=2C 5 Jun 2015 01:03:34 -0700 > CC: pals@ietf.org > Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01.t= xt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Wor= king Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Extension to LDP-VPLS for Ethernet Broadcast an= d Multicast > Authors : Frederic Jounay > Yuji Kamite > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Mach(Guoyi) Chen > Lizhong Jin > Filename : draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2015-06-04 >=20 > Abstract: > This document proposes a simple extension to LDP-VPLS to improve > bandwidth efficiency for Ethernet broadcast/multicast traffic > within a carrier's network. 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Regards=2C
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>=3B Date: Fr= i=2C 5 Jun 2015 01:03:34 -0700
>=3B CC: pals@ietf.org
>=3B Subjec= t: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01.txt
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>=3B
>=3B A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-li= ne Internet-Drafts directories.
>=3B This draft is a work item of the= Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF.
>=3B <= br>>=3B Title : Extension to LDP-VPLS for Ethernet Broa= dcast and Multicast
>=3B Authors : Frederic Jounay
= >=3B Yuji Kamite
>=3B = Zhihua Liu
>=3B Manuel Paul
>=3B = Ruediger Kunze
>=3B = Mach(Guoyi) Chen
>=3B Lizhong Jin
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>=3B Date : 2015-06-04
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>=3B Abstract:
>=3B This document proposes a simple exten= sion to LDP-VPLS to improve
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>=3B within a carrier's network. It mak= es use of unidirectional
>=3B point-to-multipoint PseudoWires to mi= nimise payload frame duplication
>=3B on physical links.
>=3B =
>=3B
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>=3B The IETF datatracker status page for this = draft is:
>=3B https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vp= ls-broadcast-exten/
>=3B
>=3B There's also a htmlized version av= ailable at:
>=3B https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-= broadcast-exten-01
>=3B
>=3B A diff from the previous version is= available at:
>=3B https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pal= s-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-01
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Please note t= hat it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>=3B u= ntil the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>= =3B
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= --_5e1e536f-fa75-4a13-aeff-acf4fec2b330_-- From nobody Wed Jun 10 13:40:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34391ACD26 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9zHBBXKA2LI8 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ECAF1ACD0B for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=20670; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1433968835; x=1435178435; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=t0QT+g12nFeFhXTfzl/eKOn0XEvSiC7oR8f1dWF18+w=; b=SarNqmdS/OnUSvoEkoa8p2MqNk36vRPuh1Le1tLcKHRYCaLXbB+qGayE g7mYLjcpxENmhRY8IsHm0CNHctweFpFbsNv2FYGFppl6VBk15XFH64NWP 1dmP2CZElXf6lNmdhfzC2HNMHXNdtL7XCJLcErq2Z6E3zkjDnajiUC0Fw Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0B0BQA6oHhV/5RdJa1SBwOCRUtUXwavR41aPCoJgWOFeAKBPTgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhCIBAgEDZgMBDw4EAQgRAwECIQciBhEUCQoEAQ0FiBkDEg2vfZxsDYVEAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEYBIExig6CTYFWBgsBJQYVARAGBwMIgmmBMwWLcYUKgk+ERoUQgWCBMECDP4pWZIM3g1sRE2J8ghpvAYEEBxcjgQEBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,589,1427760000"; d="scan'208,217";a="2447210" Received: from rcdn-core-12.cisco.com ([173.37.93.148]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2015 20:40:34 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x12.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x12.cisco.com [173.36.12.86]) by rcdn-core-12.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5AKeYgZ006770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:40:34 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com ([169.254.4.112]) by xhc-aln-x12.cisco.com ([173.36.12.86]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:40:34 -0500 From: "Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)" To: David Sinicrope , "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague Thread-Index: AQHQo72y52BHV3mBwki/+rRE/O8Lvg== Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:40:33 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [161.44.212.157] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D19E17E35BDB1pbrissetciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Andrew Malis , "Stewart Bryant \(stbryant\)" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:40:37 -0000 --_000_D19E17E35BDB1pbrissetciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The L2VPN Yang team would like to have a timeslots! 1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): L2VPN IETF Yang model - update 2. URL to your draft on Datatracker =96 you only need to provide the file n= ame to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pw= e3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/): To be provided when ready 3. brief statement of objectives and issues to be discussed and resolved vi= a the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address security issu= es and get direction from the WG): The L2VPN Yang team has been making great process since last IETF. We would= like to present an update of what we have been working on and present that= first draft. 4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min): 10 =9615 mins 5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Patrice Brissette, Himanshu Shah, Lizhen Bin and whoever from our team of 1= 8 people who wants to talk :) Regards, Patrice [http://www.cisco.com/web/europe/images/email/signature/est2014/logo_06.= png?ct=3D1406640631632] Patrice Brissette TECHNICAL LEADER.ENGINEERING pbrisset@cisco.com Phone: +1 613 254 3336 Cisco Systems Canada Co. / Les Systemes Cisco Canada CIE Canada Cisco.com [http://www.cisco.com/assets/swa/img/thinkbeforeyouprint.gif] Think before = you print. This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole us= e of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by= others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or a= uthorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply= email and delete all copies of this message. Please click here for Company Registration Information. From: David Sinicrope > Date: Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:47 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: Andrew Malis >, "Stewart Br= yant (stbryant)" > Subject: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague Hi All, It=B9s that time again. If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, please reply = to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. Pleaseuse this form and please reply to this email with the subject intact.= (Not doing so probably means your request will not trigger the filter I u= se to identify PALS slot requests and be lost in my email, never to be foun= d. :-) Form: 1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): 2. URL to your draft on Datatracker =96 you only need to provide the file n= ame to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pw= e3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/): 3. brief statement of objectives and issues to be discussed and resolved vi= a the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address security issu= es and get direction from the WG): 4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min): 5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Thanks! Dave --_000_D19E17E35BDB1pbrissetciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

The L2VPN Yang team would like to have a timeslots!


1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): 

L2VPN IETF Yang mo= del - update


2. URL to your draft on Datatracker =96 y= ou only need to provide the file name to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf= .org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/):  

To be provided when ready

3. brief statement of objectives and issues to= be discussed and resolved via the presentation during the meeting  (e= .g., need to address security issues and get direction from the WG):  

The L2VPN Yang team has been making great process sinc= e last IETF. We would like to present an update of what we have been working on and present that first draft.

4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 m= in):  

10 =9615 mins

5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave = SINICROPE):  

Patrice Brissette, Himanshu Shah, Lizhen Bin and whoev= er from our team of 18 people who wants to talk :)


Regards,

Patrice

   

Patrice Brissette
TECHNICAL LEADER.ENGINEERING

pbrisset@cisco.com
Phone: +1 613 254 3336

Cisco Systems Canada Co. / Les Systemes Cisco Canada CIE Canada
Cisco.com
Think before you print.

This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole= use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure= by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (o= r authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies= of this message.

Please click here for Company Registration Information.


From: David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&g= t;
Date: Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:47 = PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>, "Stewart Bryant (stb= ryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
Subject: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot R= equests - Prague


Hi All,

It=B9s that time again. 

 

If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, ple= ase reply to this email (subject intact) completing the fo= rm below.   

 

Please= use this form and please reply to this email wit= h the subject intact.  (Not doing so probably means your request will = not trigger the filter I use to identify PALS slot requests and be los= t in my email, never to be found. :-)

 

Form:

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Malis" Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:41:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c079222dd87051839f677 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Fwd: IPR Disclosure Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-pwe3-mspw-er X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:41:49 -0000 --f46d043c079222dd87051839f677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 FYI, this concerns work originally done in the PWE3 WG. Cheers, Andy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: IETF Secretariat Date: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:55 PM Subject: IPR Disclosure Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-pwe3-mspw-er To: pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com, matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com, lmartini@cisco.com Cc: akatlas@gmail.com, aretana@cisco.com, db3546@att.com, matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com, agmalis@gmail.com, pwe3@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org Dear Pranjal Dutta, Matthew Bocci, Luca Martini: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "Explicit Path Routing for Dynamic Multi-Segment Pseudowires" (RFC7392) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2610/). 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Cheers,
Andy

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From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-ipr@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, J= un 10, 2015 at 6:55 PM
Subject: IPR Disclosure Huawei Technologies Co., = Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-pwe3-mspw-er
To: pranjal.dutta@alcatel-luce= nt.com, matthew.boc= ci@alcatel-lucent.com, lmartini@c= isco.com
Cc: akatlas@gmail.com<= /a>, aretana@cisco.com, db3546@att.com, matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com, agmalis@gmail.com, pwe3@ietf.org, ipr-announce@= ietf.org


Dear Pranjal Dutta, Matthew Bocci, Luca Martini:

An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "Explicit Path Ro= uting
for Dynamic Multi-Segment Pseudowires" (RFC7392) was submitted to the = IETF
Secretariat on=C2=A0 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellec= tual Property
Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/261= 0/). The title of the
IPR disclosure is "Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd's Statement about I= PR related
to draft-ietf-pwe3-mspw-er"


Thank you

IETF Secretariat

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:55:39 -0000 Working Group, The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten have told us that the draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a working group document. Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll. This mail starts the IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. - Stewart (PALS Co-chair) From nobody Fri Jun 12 08:19:45 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159B61A010D for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MBgYLjyiQSyH for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 556A31A010F for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:19:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9279; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1434122381; x=1435331981; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to; bh=8bchB7VknIo611JfTMrJD70fLEvuPIGULEfb3fLtBxg=; b=lgjInq4tEK2oINmKb9OFnb6s4dkI7zXkn9bP1yd/D8D6vox5echm1mRc wqQG5waETmWWBEvNavLoD2weOqjTg7+O500GGnO1oDcjVk2enbp4KrCkt /6ulPVQqpEIFEVhiEG92n0HssJHXb2VgLEm4l3W2K3UXBq1he+AWxx4b5 g=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,602,1427760000"; d="scan'208,217";a="523296108" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-3.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2015 15:19:39 +0000 Received: from [64.103.106.109] (dhcp-bdlk10-data-vlan300-64-103-106-109.cisco.com [64.103.106.109]) by aer-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5CFJdNc002980; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:19:39 GMT Message-ID: <557AF88D.3050404@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:19:41 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pals@ietf.org" References: In-Reply-To: X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080507020508050809060404" Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Fwd: FW: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:19:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080507020508050809060404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: FW: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:35:53 +0000 From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A To: rtg-chairs@ietf.org Not everyone pays attention to the ietf-list, you may want to distribute on your wg lists- -----Original Message----- From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:32 PM To: IETF Announcement List Subject: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship The IESG has received some reports of IETF participants having been listed as document authors on drafts without their consent ("surprised authorship"). In some cases, the surprised authors had never seen the draft that surprised them. It appears that some draft authors think that including other participants as authors is a way to show support for the concepts in the document and gain acceptance for those concepts. This may be thought of as especially useful if the additional authors are established IETF participants. Adding names of IETF participants who did not actually work on a proposal might seem to be a low-risk way of demonstrating "support", but this is very clearly not an acceptable practice: no one should ever be added to the list of authors on a draft unless that person has consented to it and has contributed significantly to the development of the draft. The practice of adding surprised authors is - not in line with the IETF culture, where it's the technical issues that matter, not who the authors or supporters are; - unethical, as it is wrong to claim support from someone who has not consented to it; - misleading in terms of support; and - problematic in terms of IPR disclosures (BCPs 78 and 79). To emphasize this last point, the person submitting an Internet-Draft is asserting that "This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79". A submitter who has not discussed this with all the listed authors cannot make that claim, and this can cause procedural and legal problems later. All authors need to be aware of the ​RFC Editor's statement on authorship [1], especially as it relates to responsibility for the document's contents. The IESG strongly recommends that all drafts have explicit permission from all authors to have their names listed before the draft is submitted. If you feel that you are impacted by the above issues, please talk to your Area Director or contact the IESG by ​sending email to . As the administrator of the I-D repository (regardless of the source or intended stream for the draft), the IESG will handle each case of disputed authorship on a case-by-base basis. All reports will be investigated, and substantiated claims will be met with corrective actions. The default corrective action will be the replacement of the offending draft with a "disputed authorship" tombstone. Such a tombstone would: - Be published as a successor to the offending draft, - Have the offended IETF participant listed as the only author, - Will state "The author listed on this tombstone Internet-Draft has stated that he/she should not have been listed as an author on the previous version. The IETF considers being added as an author without one's permission as unethical. The default behaviour of the IESG in such cases is to approve replacement of the offending draft with this tombstone. Please direct any queries to the author listed here." [1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2015-May/008869.html --------------080507020508050809060404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: FW: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:35:53 +0000
From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com>
To: rtg-chairs@ietf.org <rtg-chairs@ietf.org> 


Not everyone pays attention to the ietf-list, you may want to distribute on your wg lists-


-----Original Message-----
From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:32 PM
To: IETF Announcement List
Subject: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship

The IESG has received some reports of IETF participants having been 
listed as document authors on drafts without their consent ("surprised 
authorship"). In some cases, the surprised authors had never seen the 
draft that surprised them. It appears that some draft authors think that 
including other participants as authors is a way to show support for the 
concepts in the document and gain acceptance for those concepts. This 
may be thought of as especially useful if the additional authors are 
established IETF participants.

Adding names of IETF participants who did not actually work on a 
proposal might seem to be a low-risk way of demonstrating "support", but 
this is very clearly not an acceptable practice: no one should ever be 
added to the list of authors on a draft unless that person has consented 
to it and has contributed significantly to the development of the draft.

The practice of adding surprised authors is

  - not in line with the IETF culture, where it's the technical issues 
    that matter, not who the authors or supporters are;
  - unethical, as it is wrong to claim support from someone who has not 
    consented to it;
  - misleading in terms of support; and
  - problematic in terms of IPR disclosures (BCPs 78 and 79). 

To emphasize this last point, the person submitting an Internet-Draft is 
asserting that "This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance 
with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79". A submitter who has not 
discussed this with all the listed authors cannot make that claim, and 
this can cause procedural and legal problems later.

All authors need to be aware of the ​RFC Editor's statement on 
authorship [1], especially as it relates to responsibility for the 
document's contents. The IESG strongly recommends that all drafts have 
explicit permission from all authors to have their names listed before 
the draft is submitted.

If you feel that you are impacted by the above issues, please talk to 
your Area Director or contact the IESG by ​sending email to 
<iesg@ietf.org>. As the administrator of the I-D repository (regardless 
of the source or intended stream for the draft), the IESG will handle 
each case of disputed authorship on a case-by-base basis. All reports 
will be investigated, and substantiated claims will be met with 
corrective actions.

The default corrective action will be the replacement of the offending 
draft with a "disputed authorship" tombstone. Such a tombstone would:

  - Be published as a successor to the offending draft,
  - Have the offended IETF participant listed as the only author,
  - Will state "The author listed on this tombstone Internet-Draft has 
    stated that he/she should not have been listed as an author on the 
    previous version. The IETF considers being added as an author 
    without one's permission as unethical. The default behaviour of the 
    IESG in such cases is to approve replacement of the offending draft 
    with this tombstone. Please direct any queries to the author listed 
    here." 

[1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2015-May/008869.html


--------------080507020508050809060404-- From nobody Fri Jun 12 16:50:02 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73C31A88B1 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:50:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3WhQJGsjdjXE for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S29.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s29.hotmail.com [65.55.111.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E8E1A88AE for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU175-W35 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S29.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:49:57 -0700 X-TMN: [Lk6g40Ho/U01Sx2REHCr0A/moTSD2nL6] X-Originating-Email: [raymond.key@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_703016cb-6fa4-416f-9a1a-24aea3b48c6d_" From: Raymond Key Sender: To: Stewart Bryant , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org" , "simon.delord@gmail.com" Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:19:57 +1030 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <557AF2E8.4020902@g3ysx.org.uk> References: <557AF2E8.4020902@g3ysx.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2015 23:49:57.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D0A2E40:01D0A56A] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 23:50:00 -0000 --_703016cb-6fa4-416f-9a1a-24aea3b48c6d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcas= t-exten. Raymond Key =20 > Date: Fri=2C 12 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0100 > From: stewart@g3ysx.org.uk > To: pals@ietf.org=3B draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.= org > Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten >=20 > Working Group=2C >=20 > The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten have > told us that the draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus > to make it a working group document. >=20 > Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll. >=20 > This mail starts the IPR poll. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten? >=20 > If so=2C has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979=2C 4879=2C 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor=2C then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of an= y > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 >=20 > - Stewart (PALS Co-chair) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals = --_703016cb-6fa4-416f-9a1a-24aea3b48c6d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am not aware of any IPR that a= pplies to draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten.
Raymond Key
 = =3B
>=3B Date: Fri=2C 12 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0100
>=3B From: = stewart@g3ysx.org.uk
>=3B To: pals@ietf.org=3B draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpl= s-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org
>=3B Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll for dra= ft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten
>=3B
>=3B Working Group=2C=
>=3B
>=3B The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-ext= en have
>=3B told us that the draft is ready to be polled to see if we= have consensus
>=3B to make it a working group document.
>=3B >=3B Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll.
>= =3B
>=3B This mail starts the IPR poll.
>=3B
>=3B Are you = aware of any IPR that applies to
>=3B draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadca= st-exten?
>=3B
>=3B If so=2C has this IPR been disclosed in comp= liance with IETF IPR rules
>=3B (see RFCs 3979=2C 4879=2C 3669 and 537= 8 for more details).
>=3B
>=3B If you are listed as a document a= uthor or contributor please respond to
>=3B this email regardless of w= hether or not you are aware of any relevant
>=3B IPR. *The response ne= eds to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list.* The
>=3B document will no= t advance to the next stage until a response has been
>=3B received fr= om each author and contributor.
>=3B
>=3B If you are on the PALS= WG email list but are not listed as an author or
>=3B contributor=2C = then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
>=3B IPR t= hat has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B - Stewart (PALS Co-chair)
>=3B
>=3B ________= _______________________________________
>=3B Pals mailing list
>= =3B Pals@ietf.org
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= --_703016cb-6fa4-416f-9a1a-24aea3b48c6d_-- From nobody Sat Jun 13 06:21:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96D81A87D4 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.452 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.452 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I9gkB7PUemOJ for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22f.google.com (mail-pd0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6241A87BE for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdbki1 with SMTP id ki1so41095092pdb.1 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:21:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject :date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=SFndMxcehVp/bU0Yd5XqrWJn5OCU4kGYRbg4VrNiBCE=; b=R+MQZ1X2UAnddIw1WBqTN7eMEk12W92jvPq47FKfR0syOlPszkOW6tQJCluIGCKtLY la8p4M82qYiFSt3Fl2gzAcVUL7LxAafvY2mI2rwqUcpGoFlHwqZkvmt6a2Tm08+3dRb+ YOAMJyYMqjF7Fx1IQoLDNAinNYaU+vv/RiGWRigYOFQI6+rk/HbVpjwqPVDzR8mOjQSq Go3kU7S/ch0+HZ6tWdwGpAL/wJbs6VVkMQ6hW5x4QcuTs7FV8s2/1yYOxUEquGYHj3gm +v7fIDtQXVvL1E+GigiNYx7nx7ZnwwwMBOz3Bur21/mjirYw6wbU39+myzI9fNVEKUT4 n8Rw== X-Received: by 10.70.92.34 with SMTP id cj2mr31993103pdb.116.1434201692465; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.42.132.99] ([112.4.16.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bs4sm6688965pdb.21.2015.06.13.06.21.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D9E5B8D8-12E8-469D-A12C-C45CDCCCA252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lizhong Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:58:25 +0800 Message-Id: <61990A45-5135-49C0-814D-2C6FF691495B@gmail.com> References: <557AF2E8.4020902@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: To: Raymond Key X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12D508) Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org" , Stewart Bryant , "simon.delord@gmail.com" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:21:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D9E5B8D8-12E8-469D-A12C-C45CDCCCA252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Regards Lizhong > =D4=DA 2015=C4=EA6=D4=C213=C8=D5=A3=AC07:49=A3=ACRaymond Key =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA >=20 > I am not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadca= st-exten. > Raymond Key > =20 > > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0100 > > From: stewart@g3ysx.org.uk > > To: pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.o= rg > > Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten > >=20 > > Working Group, > >=20 > > The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten have > > told us that the draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus= > > to make it a working group document. > >=20 > > Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll. > >=20 > > This mail starts the IPR poll. > >=20 > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > > draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten? > >=20 > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >=20 > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list.* The > > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > > received from each author and contributor. > >=20 > > If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any= > > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >=20 > >=20 > > - Stewart (PALS Co-chair) > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Pals mailing list > > Pals@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals --Apple-Mail-D9E5B8D8-12E8-469D-A12C-C45CDCCCA252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I am not aware of any IPR that applies to t= his draft.

Regards
Lizhong

=E5=9C= =A8 2015=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=8813=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C07:49=EF=BC=8CRaymond Key <= ;raymond.key@ieee.org> =E5=86= =99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

I am not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pals-l= dp-vpls-broadcast-exten.
Raymond Key
 
> Date: Fri, 12= Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0100
> From: stewart@g3ysx.org.uk
> To: pal= s@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org> Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten=
>
> Working Group,
>
> The authors of draft-ietf-= pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten have
> told us that the draft is ready t= o be polled to see if we have consensus
> to make it a working group d= ocument.
>
> Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IP= R poll.
>
> This mail starts the IPR poll.
>
> Are= you aware of any IPR that applies to
> draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broad= cast-exten?
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in complianc= e with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more d= etails).
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contribu= tor please respond to
> this email regardless of whether or not you ar= e aware of any relevant
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the P= ALS WG mailing list.* The
> document will not advance to the next stag= e until a response has been
> received from each author and contributo= r.
>
> If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed a= s an author or
> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if y= ou are aware of any
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conforman= ce with IETF rules.
>
>
> - Stewart (PALS Co-chair)
&= gt;
> _______________________________________________
> Pals ma= iling list
> Pals@ietf.org
>= ; https://www.ietf.or= g/mailman/listinfo/pals
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(ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HRsM51tV2xjZ for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com (mail-lb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66CD11A009C for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbqq2 with SMTP id qq2so58173350lbb.3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eHk953gxY3t79a0zAGDLupjo3f5ox4S+JLGFzNYqsbQ=; b=Rk9xV2Wq5vpga2KOw2KJl+rUXa5l9J5vIV5d7XCRx8tKPImitxPvvETFmeFWB41Mi3 lcvEE3cF4eKuibwotESs6OmAvXuus3aBFyqMCHevWIT3Pjrl3gUVz0PijUwxmTeXN72Z UGuIAgzrS39op3LE/UnGRXFBRAFKbSgPTtjqhy67uqaAxCCshYNYGQRLzAWXkZgrnWHU 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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:44:02 -0000 --001a11c3f310a83af905189200a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm not aware of any IPR that belongs to this draft. Simon On Monday, June 15, 2015, Jounay Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric wrote: > Hi > > > > Not aware of any patent related to this draft > > > > BR > > Fred > > > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0100 > > From: stewart@g3ysx.org.uk > > > To: pals@ietf.org ; > draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org > > > Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten > > > > Working Group, > > > > The authors of draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten have > > told us that the draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensu= s > > to make it a working group document. > > > > Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll. > > > > This mail starts the IPR poll. > > > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > > draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten? > > > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the PALS WG mailing list.* The > > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > > received from each author and contributor. > > > > If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of an= y > > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > > > > > - Stewart (PALS Co-chair) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pals mailing list > > Pals@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > --001a11c3f310a83af905189200a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm not aware of any IPR that belongs to this draft.
Simon
On Monday, June 15, 2015, Jounay Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric <Frederic.Jounay@salt.ch> wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0100
> From:= stewart@g3ysx.org.uk
> To: pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org
> = Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten
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> Working Group,
>
> The authors of draft-ietf-pals-= ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten have
> told us that the draft is ready to be= polled to see if we have consensus
> to make it a working group docu= ment.
>
> Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR = poll.
>
> This mail starts the IPR poll.
>
> Are = you aware of any IPR that applies to
> draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broad= cast-exten?
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in complian= ce with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more= details).
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contr= ibutor please respond to
> this email regardless of whether or not yo= u are aware of any relevant
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to = the PALS WG mailing list.* The
> document will not advance to the nex= t stage until a response has been
> received from each author and con= tributor.
>
> If you are on the PALS WG email list but are not= listed as an author or
> contributor, then please explicitly respond= only if you are aware of any
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed i= n conformance with IETF rules.
>
>
> - Stewart (PALS Co= -chair)
>
> _______________________________________________> Pals mailing list
> Pals@ietf.org
> = ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals

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(ams-stbryant-88110.cisco.com [10.55.98.187]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5I9InaN031158; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:18:50 GMT Message-ID: <55828CFF.2060600@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:18:55 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten@tools.ietf.org, "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080003060201000707080708" Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten - some comments X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:18:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080003060201000707080708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I took a quick look at this draft and will give it a more detailed review when it get to WGLC Please see below. However I have a significant concern that the PALS WG needs to address before this draft can progress to publication. The approach described in this draft relies on the use of P2MP PWs. However neither PWE3 or PALS has published an RFC specifying a P2MP PW. The draft that you rely on for the P2MP PW specification (draft-ietf-pwe3-p2mp-pw) expired nearly three years ago.. ======== 1. Introduction This document proposes a simple extension to LDP-VPLS [RFC4762] to improve bandwidth efficiency for Ethernet broadcast/multicast traffic within a carrier's network. This bandwidth improvement is achieved by adding to the existing full-mesh of bidirectional point-to-point PseudoWires (P2P PWs) unidirectional point-to-multipoint PseudoWires (P2MP PWs) between selected PEs within a VPLS instance. SB> You have not yet provided a definition or reference to P2MP PWs. SB> More worrying, whilst there are requirements for P2MP PWs, there SB> is no PALS/PWE3 specification of a P2MP PW outside an MPLS-TP context SB> (which you do not point to). I would think that we need a specification SB> of a P2MP PW before we can publish a specification that uses them. With P2MP PWs, the ingress PE is not responsible for replicating the payload frame on each P2P PW towards the egress PE, instead the network elements along the physical path participate in the replication process. The replication is done by the underlying point-to-multi- point label switched path. This proposal allows for a large number of P2MP PWs to be carried through a single MPLS P2MP tunnel, thus, it is never necessary to maintain state in the network core for individual P2MP PWs. Delord & Key Expires Dec 2015 [Page 2] Internet Draft Ext to LDP-VPLS for broadcast multicast June 2015 2. Problem Statement & Motivation 2.1. Requirements for Broadcast/Multicast Support in VPLS [RFC5501] provides an in-depth discussion on broadcast/multicast related requirements for VPLS. It highlights two specific issues: - issue A: replication to non-member site. - issue B: replication of PWs on shared physical path. 2.1.1. Issue A: replication to non-member site The current standard VPLS is a L2VPN service agnostic to customer's SB> I think that should be "that is agnostic" Layer 3 traffic, hence does not maintain any information about IP SB> hence what?, or do you mean "because it" multicast group membership. Although a Layer 3 IP multicast packet is encapsulated in a Layer 2 Ethernet multicast frame, the current standard VPLS treats Ethernet multicast frame in exactly the same way as Ethernet broadcast frame. There is therefore an issue that multicast traffic is sent to sites with no members. Since the upstream PE does not maintain downstream membership information, it simply floods frames to all downstream PEs, and the downstream PEs forward them to directly connected CEs; however, those CEs might not be the members of any multicast group. SB> You might want to look at the logic flow in the previous para. SB> I think you repeat yourself. (I stopped reviewing at this point) - Stewart --------------080003060201000707080708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 
I took a quick look at this draft and will give it a more
detailed review when it get to WGLC

Please see below.

However I have a significant concern that the PALS WG
needs to address before this draft can progress to 
publication.

The approach described in this draft relies on the 
use of P2MP PWs. However neither PWE3 or PALS has
published an RFC specifying a P2MP PW.

The draft that you rely on for the P2MP PW specification
(draft-ietf-pwe3-p2mp-pw) expired nearly three years
ago.. 


========

1. Introduction 
   
   This document proposes a simple extension to LDP-VPLS [RFC4762] to 
   improve bandwidth efficiency for Ethernet broadcast/multicast traffic
   within a carrier's network. This bandwidth improvement is achieved by
   adding to the existing full-mesh of bidirectional point-to-point 
   PseudoWires (P2P PWs) unidirectional point-to-multipoint PseudoWires
   (P2MP PWs) between selected PEs within a VPLS instance.

SB> You have not yet provided a definition or reference to P2MP PWs.
SB> More worrying, whilst there are requirements for P2MP PWs, there 
SB> is no PALS/PWE3 specification of a P2MP PW outside an MPLS-TP context
SB> (which you do not point to). I would think that we need a specification
SB> of a P2MP PW before we can publish a specification that uses them.

   With P2MP 
   PWs, the ingress PE is not responsible for replicating the payload 
   frame on each P2P PW towards the egress PE, instead the network 
   elements along the physical path participate in the replication 
   process. The replication is done by the underlying point-to-multi-
   point label switched path. This proposal allows for a large number
   of P2MP PWs to be carried through a single MPLS P2MP tunnel, thus,
   it is never necessary to maintain state in the network core for 
   individual P2MP PWs.  




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2. Problem Statement & Motivation

2.1. Requirements for Broadcast/Multicast Support in VPLS

   [RFC5501] provides an in-depth discussion on broadcast/multicast 
   related requirements for VPLS. It highlights two specific issues:

      - issue A: replication to non-member site.
      - issue B: replication of PWs on shared physical path. 

2.1.1. Issue A: replication to non-member site  

   The current standard VPLS is a L2VPN service agnostic to customer's
SB> I think that should be "that is agnostic"

  Layer 3 traffic, hence does not maintain any information about IP
SB> hence what?, or do you mean "because it"
  
   multicast group membership.  Although a Layer 3 IP multicast packet
   is encapsulated in a Layer 2 Ethernet multicast frame, the current
   standard VPLS treats Ethernet multicast frame in exactly the same way
   as Ethernet broadcast frame. There is therefore an issue that 
   multicast traffic is sent to sites with no members.  Since the 
   upstream PE does not maintain downstream membership information, it 
   simply floods frames to all downstream PEs, and the downstream PEs 
   forward them to directly connected CEs; however, those CEs might not 
   be the members of any multicast group.


SB> You might want to look at the logic flow in the previous para.
SB> I think you repeat yourself.

(I stopped reviewing at this point)

- Stewart
--------------080003060201000707080708-- From nobody Fri Jun 19 08:00:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3051A8996; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:00:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rTvSMAgHP_gx; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274991A890C; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:00:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150619150012.11683.80996.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:00:12 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:00:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Pseudowire Setup and Maintenance using the Label Distribution Protocol Authors : Luca Martini Giles Heron Filename : draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-01.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2015-06-19 Abstract: Layer 2 services (such as Frame Relay, Asynchronous Transfer Mode, and Ethernet) can be "emulated" over an MPLS backbone by encapsulating the Layer 2 Protocol Data Units (PDU) and then transmitting them over "pseudowires". It is also possible to use pseudowires to provide low-rate Time Division Multiplexed and Synchronous Optical NETworking circuit emulation over an MPLS-enabled network. This document specifies a protocol for establishing and maintaining the pseudowires, using extensions to the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP). Procedures for encapsulating Layer 2 PDUs are specified in a set of companion documents. This document has been written to address errata in a previous version of this standard. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:04:48 -0000 --_000_315041E4211CB84E86EF7C25A2AB583D54571682xmbrcdx15ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello David, Please consider allocating one slot for two drafts : 1. Topic: Seamless-BFD for VCCV 2. draft URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv/ = and http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ 3. Objective: Present-01 version of SBFD for VCCV, get feedback from WG and= request WG adoption 4. Requested duration 10 min. 5 speaker: Prasad GOVINDAN Thanks Prasad From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Sinicrope Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:17 AM To: pals@ietf.org Cc: Andrew Malis; Stewart Bryant (stbryant) Subject: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague Hi All, It=B9s that time again. If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, please reply = to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. Please use this form and please reply to this email with the subject intact= . (Not doing so probably means your request will not trigger the filter I = use to identify PALS slot requests and be lost in my email, never to be fou= nd. :-) Form: 1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): 2. URL to your draft on Datatracker - you only need to provide the file nam= e to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3= -mpls-eth-oam-iwk/): 3. brief statement of objectives and issues to be discussed and resolved vi= a the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address security issu= es and get direction from the WG): 4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min): 5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Thanks! 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Hello David,

Please consider allocating one slot f= or two drafts :

1. Topic: Seamless-BFD for VCCV

2. draft URL: ht= tp://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv/ and http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/<= /a>

3. Objective: Present-01 version of S= BFD for VCCV, get feedback from WG and request WG adoption<= /span>

4. Requested duration 10 min.  <= o:p>

5 speaker: Prasad GOVINDAN=

Thanks
Prasad

 

 

From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf= .org] On Behalf Of David Sinicrope
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:17 AM
To: pals@ietf.org
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 =

Hi All,

It=B9s that time again. 

 

If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, please&nbs= p;reply to this email (subject intact) completing the form below.   =

 

Please use thi= s form and please r= eply to this email with the subject intact.  (Not doing so probably me= ans your request will not trigger the filter I use to identify PALS slot requests and be lost in my email, never to be found.= :-)

 

 

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URL to your draft on Datatracker =96 you only need to provide the file n= ame to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pw= e3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/): draft-brissette-pals-pw-fec-label-request-01 3. brief statement of objectives and issues to be discussed and resolved vi= a the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address security issu= es and get direction from the WG): Get direction from WG and gather more feedback from community 4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min): 10 min 5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Patrice BRISSETTE Regards, Patrice [http://www.cisco.com/web/europe/images/email/signature/est2014/logo_06.= png?ct=3D1406640631632] Patrice Brissette TECHNICAL LEADER.ENGINEERING pbrisset@cisco.com Phone: +1 613 254 3336 Cisco Systems Canada Co. / Les Systemes Cisco Canada CIE Canada Cisco.com [http://www.cisco.com/assets/swa/img/thinkbeforeyouprint.gif] Think before = you print. This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole us= e of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by= others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or a= uthorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply= email and delete all copies of this message. Please click here for Company Registration Information. From: David Sinicrope > Date: Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:47 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: Andrew Malis >, "Stewart Br= yant (stbryant)" > Subject: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot Requests - Prague Hi All, It=B9s that time again. If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, please reply = to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. Pleaseuse this form and please reply to this email with the subject intact.= (Not doing so probably means your request will not trigger the filter I u= se to identify PALS slot requests and be lost in my email, never to be foun= d. :-) Form: 1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): 2. URL to your draft on Datatracker =96 you only need to provide the file n= ame to the example URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pw= e3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/): 3. brief statement of objectives and issues to be discussed and resolved vi= a the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address security issu= es and get direction from the WG): 4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min): 5. speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Thanks! Dave --_000_D1AE21345FAEDpbrissetciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,


  1. topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):
Handling Incoming Label Reques=
t for PW FEC Types

3. brief statement of objectives and issues to= be discussed and resolved via the presentation during the meeting  (e= .g., need to address security issues and get direction from the WG):  


Get direction from WG and gather more feedback= from community


4. requested duration (norm/default is 10 min)= :  


10 min


5. speaker Given-name F= AMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE):  


Patrice BRISSETTE

Regards,

Patrice

   

Patrice Brissette
TECHNICAL LEADER.ENGINEERING

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From: David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&g= t;
Date: Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:47 = PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>, "Stewart Bryant (stb= ryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
Subject: [Pals] PALS IETF 93 Slot R= equests - Prague


Hi All,

It=B9s that time again. 

 

If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 93 PALS session, ple= ase reply to this email (subject intact) completing the fo= rm below.   

 

Please= use this form and please reply to this email wit= h the subject intact.  (Not doing so probably means your request will = not trigger the filter I use to identify PALS slot requests and be los= t in my email, never to be found. :-)

 

Form:

--_000_D1AE21345FAEDpbrissetciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Jun 23 03:02:21 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4241ACCE8; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:02:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SENQIBgwoyBx; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA1D1ACCC7; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:02:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150623100218.28026.38631.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:02:18 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:02:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : LDP extensions for Pseudowire Binding to LSP Tunnels Authors : Mach(Guoyi) Chen Wei Cao Attila Takacs Ping Pan Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2015-06-23 Abstract: Many transport services require that user traffic, in the forms of Pseudowires (PW), to be delivered on a single co-routed bidirectional LSP or two LSPs that share the same routes. In addition, the user traffic may traverse through multiple transport networks. This document defines an optional extension to LDP that enables the binding between PWs and the underlying LSPs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Jun 23 19:07:46 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833501B338A; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:07:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F-VXU2l08biJ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515B01B337B; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:07:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150624020741.23264.89641.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:07:41 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-02.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:07:42 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : LDP Extensions for Pseudowire Binding to LSP Tunnels Authors : Mach(Guoyi) Chen Wei Cao Attila Takacs Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2015-06-23 Abstract: Many transport services require that user traffic, in the forms of Pseudowires (PW), to be delivered on a single co-routed bidirectional LSP or two LSPs that share the same routes. In addition, the user traffic may traverse through multiple transport networks. This document defines an optional extension to LDP that enables the binding between PWs and the underlying LSPs. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jun 24 02:42:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA461B32CA; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:42:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zmQBhF7yxXMD; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C1A1B3273; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:42:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150624094249.6589.60609.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:42:49 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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Malis" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b4507e02e8f0d0519451bf7 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Fwd: [Errata Verified] RFC7361 (4380) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:24:47 -0000 --047d7b4507e02e8f0d0519451bf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 FYI. This was sent to the l2vpn list. Cheers, Andy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: RFC Errata System Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC7361 (4380) To: rainsword.wang@huawei.com, pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com, florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com, ostokes@extremenetworks.com, geraldine.calvignac@orange.com, don.fedyk@hp.com Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org The following errata report has been verified for RFC7361, "LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7361&eid=4380 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Technical Reported by: rainsword Date Reported: 2015-05-29 Verified by: Deborah Brungard (IESG) Section: 5.2 Original Text ------------- At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the MAC Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1: o PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x0407 Length: Value length in octets. At least one B-MAC address MUST be present in the list. Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses. These are the source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS instance that originated the MAC withdraw message. It will be used to identify the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-TLV. o PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x0408 Length: Value length in octets. Zero indicates an empty I-SID list. An empty I-SID list means that the flushing applies to all the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC TLV. Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent the I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to take place. Corrected Text -------------- At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the MAC Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1: o PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x01 Length: Value length in octets. At least one B-MAC address MUST be present in the list. Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses. These are the source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS instance that originated the MAC withdraw message. It will be used to identify the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-TLV. o PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV: Type: 0x02 Length: Value length in octets. Zero indicates an empty I-SID list. An empty I-SID list means that the flushing applies to all the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC TLV. Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent the I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to take place. Notes ----- Type definition was error. The PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV abd I-SID List Sub-TLV are only support for one byte, as defined in section 5.1.1 MAC flush parameters TLV. This error was imported from draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-12. For this version, it submit the 2 sub-tlv to IANA for alloc id. But the two kinds tlv were sub-tlv, not LDP TLV -------------------------------------- RFC7361 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13) -------------------------------------- Title : LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS) Publication Date : September 2014 Author(s) : P. Dutta, F. Balus, O. Stokes, G. Calvignac, D. Fedyk Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG --047d7b4507e02e8f0d0519451bf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI. This was sent to the l2vpn list.

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Cheers,
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
Date: We= d, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM
Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC7361 (4380)To: rainsword.wang@huawei.com= , pranjal.dutta@alc= atel-lucent.com, flo= rin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com, ostokes@extremenetworks.com, geraldine.calvignac@orange.com, don.fedyk@hp.com
Cc: l2= vpn@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org


The following e= rrata report has been verified for RFC7361,
"LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical= Virtual Private LAN Service (H-VPLS)".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/err= ata_search.php?rfc=3D7361&eid=3D4380

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Status: Verified
Type: Technical

Reported by: rainsword <rai= nsword.wang@huawei.com>
Date Reported: 2015-05-29
Verified by: Deborah Brungard (IESG)

Section: 5.2

Original Text
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the= MAC
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x0407

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 At least one B-M= AC address MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be present in the list.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses.=C2=A0 = These are the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS inst= ance that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 originated the MAC withdraw message.=C2=A0 It will be = used to identify
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-= TLV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x0408

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 Zero indicates a= n empty I-SID
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 list.=C2=A0 An empty I-SID list means that the flushin= g applies to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC T= LV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent t= he
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to tak= e place.

Corrected Text
--------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0At least one of the following sub-TLVs MUST be included in the= MAC
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Flush Parameters TLV if the C-flag is set to 1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x01
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 At least one B-M= AC address MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be present in the list.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 48-bit B-MAC addresses.=C2=A0 = These are the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 source B-MAC addresses associated with the B-VPLS inst= ance that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 originated the MAC withdraw message.=C2=A0 It will be = used to identify
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the C-MAC(s) mapped to the B-MAC(s) listed in the sub-= TLV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 PBB I-SID List Sub-TLV:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type: 0x02
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Length: Value length in octets.=C2=A0 Zero indicates a= n empty I-SID
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 list.=C2=A0 An empty I-SID list means that the flushin= g applies to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the I-SIDs mapped to the B-VPLS indicated by the FEC T= LV.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value: One or a list of 24-bit I-SIDs that represent t= he
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I-component FIB(s) where the MAC flushing needs to tak= e place.

Notes
-----
Type definition was error. The PBB B-MAC List Sub-TLV abd I-SID List Sub-TL= V are only support for one byte, as defined in section 5.1.1 MAC flush para= meters TLV.
This error was imported from draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-12. For this= version, it submit the 2 sub-tlv to IANA for alloc id. But the two kinds t= lv were sub-tlv, not LDP TLV

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RFC7361 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13)
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Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: LDP Extension= s for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in a Hierarchical Virtual Private LA= N Service (H-VPLS)
Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : September 2014
Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: P. Dutta, F. Balus, O. = Stokes, G. Calvignac, D. Fedyk
Category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Layer 2 Virtual Pr= ivate Networks
Area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Routing
Stream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : IETF
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--047d7b4507e02e8f0d0519451bf7-- From nobody Wed Jun 24 08:37:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4C41AC3DC; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.093 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.107, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aa1V9pSRpN_E; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0C51AC3E5; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-f79a96d000007fb1-9c-558a745825b4 Received: from EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.93]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 20.A1.32689.8547A855; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:37:51 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: RE: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config Thread-Index: AdCuk7qCESQ/YrVxQTSobactqO9vTA== Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:37:51 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259F@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259Feusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPrG5ESVeoQetpPYsJpx4wWew4s4zJ 4tbSlawWa/6tY3Jg8Viy5CeTx5fLn9kCmKK4bFJSczLLUov07RK4MiZ2phdcVajoeT6TuYFx g0wXIyeHhICJxNVnR1khbDGJC/fWs3UxcnEICRxllOha950FwlnOKHHkzV8WkCo2ASOJFxt7 2EFsEYFciWPntzODFDEL7GeU2Pl0N9goYQEDiUlXjzFCFJlKLNu3lwnC1pO4PuEW0AoODhYB VYkz//lAwrwCvhJbXm5iA7EZga74fmoNWDmzgLjErSfzmSCuE5BYsuc8M4QtKvHy8T+oqxUl 9vVPZ4eoz5fYP6uHCWKmoMTJmU9YJjAKz0IyahaSsllIyiDiOhILdn9ig7C1JZYtfM0MY585 8JgJWXwBI/sqRo7S4tSy3HQjg02MwMg5JsGmu4Nxz0vLQ4wCHIxKPLwL5nWGCrEmlhVX5h5i lOZgURLndYzKCxUSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYovKs1JLT7EyMTBKdXAqLpqjUXd9O/HituFJliHropb xH1b4qVPtVdudn++TKX5o43TD3ecnPaPy+Y8/9TXyuXGBcWBHEdCTzPYNVXuv/2p55qHyWzG VxKP9JZuu9tRtfhVldgnjTldV2/dSPlydNah2GsWPavZ7Odwu8ocs24K6//aI1N9SP9rlkml 46cPDQELjv96rsRSnJFoqMVcVJwIAJtxJkZ9AgAA Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:37:56 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259Feusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Authors, I would like to bring your attention to the Configuration of Proactive Ope= rations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Tr= ansport Networks using LSP Ping that is ready for WG LC and will be presente= d in Prague. The goal of the draft was to provide OAM Configuration to MPLS= -TP PWs and, possibly, LSPs. Should note that OAM for MPLS-TP LSPs may be c= onfigured based on RFC 7487 Configuration of Proactive Operations, Administ= ration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-Based Transport Networks = Using RSVP-TE. I think that there are lots of commonalities, especially fun= ctionally, between all three documents and perhaps we can discuss that on t= he list and/or in Prague. Regards, Greg --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259Feusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Authors,

I would like to bring your attention to the  Configuration of Proactive Operations, Administration, and Maintena= nce  (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using LSP Ping that is ready for WG LC and will be presented = in Prague. The goal of the draft was to provide OAM Configuration to MPLS-T= P PWs and, possibly, LSPs. Should note that OAM for MPLS-TP LSPs may be con= figured based on RFC 7487 Configuration of Proactive Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions&n= bsp; for MPLS-Based Transport Networks Using RSVP-TE. I think that there ar= e lots of commonalities, especially functionally, between all three documen= ts and perhaps we can discuss that on the list and/or in Prague.

 

        &nbs= p;       Regards,

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;          Greg=

--_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259Feusaamb103erics_-- From nobody Wed Jun 24 18:45:47 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA321A6EFE; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xTqFmdDjFLzc; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48B101A21C7; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BXX77203; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:45:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.70) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:45:40 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.243]) by szxema411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:45:33 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Gregory Mirsky , "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config Thread-Index: AdCuk7qCESQ/YrVxQTSobactqO9vTAAU5bzQ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:45:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259F@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B9E259F@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.102.135] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B47EF30SZXEMA510MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:45:46 -0000 --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B47EF30SZXEMA510MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg, Indeed, and the drafts have common authors, I guess, to keep commonalities = is the intention. I'd like to discuss with you about this either on the lis= t /or in Prague. We'd like more people to review the drafts, it would be very helpful to pro= gress the drafts. Thanks, Mach From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Mirsky Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:38 PM To: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf@tools.ietf.org= ; pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config Dear Authors, I would like to bring your attention to the Configuration of Proactive Ope= rations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Tr= ansport Networks using LSP Ping that is ready for WG LC and will be presente= d in Prague. The goal of the draft was to provide OAM Configuration to MPLS= -TP PWs and, possibly, LSPs. Should note that OAM for MPLS-TP LSPs may be c= onfigured based on RFC 7487 Configuration of Proactive Operations, Administ= ration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-Based Transport Networks = Using RSVP-TE. I think that there are lots of commonalities, especially fun= ctionally, between all three documents and perhaps we can discuss that on t= he list and/or in Prague. Regards, Greg --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B47EF30SZXEMA510MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Greg,

 

Indeed, and the drafts have common authors, I guess, to keep comm= onalities is the intention. I’d like to discuss with you about this e= ither on the list /or in Prague.

 

We’d like more people to review the drafts, it would be ver= y helpful to progress the drafts.

 

Thanks,

Mach

 

From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Mirsky
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:38 PM
To: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org
Cc: mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf@tools.i= etf.org; pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config

 

Dear Authors,=

I would like to bring your atte= ntion to the  Configuration of Proactive Operations, Adminis= tration, and Maintenance  (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using LSP Ping that is ready for WG LC a= nd will be presented in Prague. The goal of the draft was to provide OAM Co= nfiguration to MPLS-TP PWs and, possibly, LSPs. Should note that OAM for MP= LS-TP LSPs may be configured based on RFC 7487 Configuration of Proactive Operations, Administration, and Mai= ntenance (OAM) Functions  for MPLS-Based Transport Networks Using RSVP= -TE. I think that there are lots of commonalities, especially functionally,= between all three documents and perhaps we can discuss that on the list and/or in Prague.

 

     &= nbsp;          Regards,

     &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp; Greg

--_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B47EF30SZXEMA510MBXchi_-- From nobody Thu Jun 25 04:55:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B700B1B3556; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:55:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wjCPgvcigQ-o; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A02CA1B3557; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wiwl6 with SMTP id l6so15649408wiw.0; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:54:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hI1SYtYM7qgik/jvYTvgmxO3hrN+9WovuS/m2hjNc+4=; b=eEOTfEsuDhZFXrnLGUmq76EppPviSHAwruSf6LtNZ1w2XjmA21vYY80PtVeOXnpCPY r2FN2suie5fWP6Dfrto0bUkC19QPAVFInEQb+wnbkSeVUgml+ugJ2u9oOxh10vW1k9ss Y3ajj1QPdoEOWMD2AA4XWHmeBIq6bYoAI0AaShpNHlQF8FKy56GUgeJmWSb7Vcow1bQd P/S1DdAnbKnua2d5DdT8dsqbtN9V4X7jyThv5DRwfuoWZabha9FEd0Ur6SzIlIpM3KrH KtPW8w7DPVrPvMxd16GHn3NEZJt8MS5xTX1fEFiYIyKeDFWNzBPZF+PWjG7rpVSBjVEQ Q4yg== X-Received: by 10.194.22.105 with SMTP id c9mr71559392wjf.120.1435233299417; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:54:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.65.135 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:54:39 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d978ffb50d10519564af1 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] PALS and MPLS have swapped Thursday slots at IETF 93 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:55:02 -0000 --047d7b5d978ffb50d10519564af1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 PALS and MPLS WGs: Note that on the IETF 93 agenda https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda.html , MPLS will now meet at 15:20 and PALS at 17:40 on Thursday. This removes a conflict between MPLS and I2RS, and gives more meeting time to the MPLS WG. PALS now conflicts with I2RS, but this is a less serious conflict than MPLS and I2RS. Cheers, Andy --047d7b5d978ffb50d10519564af1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PALS and MPLS WGs:

Note that on the= IETF 93 agenda=C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda.html , MPLS wi= ll now meet at 15:20 and PALS at 17:40 on Thursday. This removes a conflict= between MPLS and I2RS, and gives more meeting time to the MPLS WG. PALS no= w conflicts with I2RS, but this is a less serious conflict than MPLS and I2= RS.

Cheers,
Andy

--047d7b5d978ffb50d10519564af1-- From nobody Tue Jun 30 06:01:13 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D6F1A90F3; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 06:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gpKPIdjnLdyG; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 06:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17BD01ACED7; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 06:00:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2180; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1435669241; x=1436878841; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=esrTSjoFlyktpF1gBDOtqMps4sDmkYpMck0GoYwaLuI=; b=OBxarCSZ1tp8rdywV/bVzyjhY8Vp5YgRiRHlhONV0wQVWIq1WsJN1Jmt XVo3YTqVnMN3FXVs4N2IJARCyb/22bHaUTjHA6cRZWUFOuV+CcMrxrCHI 6mUIOvKaoUNEQbExHNaV8Mp9y9BE5mlA6Z8ktlJNuMRsZaEIxLCfTtldt M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0C6AwCrkpJV/4sNJK1cgxFUXwa9OwmBZ4V4AoFFOBQBAQEBAQEBgQqEIgEBAQQ6PwwEAgEIEQQBAQsUCQchERQJCAEBBAENBQiIEgMSDb4sDYVhAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBEwSLSoJNgVYRASAxBwaDEYEUBYwUh3MBhFmFGoMdhBKLV4M9g10mY4MXbwGBCzqBAgEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,377,1432598400"; d="scan'208";a="11479206" Received: from alln-core-6.cisco.com ([173.36.13.139]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2015 13:00:30 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com [173.37.183.83]) by alln-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5UD0Twd011325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:00:29 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.5.62]) by xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com ([173.37.183.83]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:00:29 -0500 From: "Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" To: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" , "l2tpext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts Thread-Index: AdBcG8bbDt4lFsaSQwiuvYh/1U3PNAdqn65wDlt+sSA= Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:00:29 +0000 Message-ID: <315041E4211CB84E86EF7C25A2AB583D54583426@xmb-rcd-x15.cisco.com> References: <315041E4211CB84E86EF7C25A2AB583D54337F7C@xmb-rcd-x15.cisco.com> <315041E4211CB84E86EF7C25A2AB583D543E79BF@xmb-rcd-x15.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <315041E4211CB84E86EF7C25A2AB583D543E79BF@xmb-rcd-x15.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.143.26.31] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" Subject: Re: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:01:09 -0000 Hello all, We have uploaded the next revision of the document incorporating the comm= ents received thus far. Please let us know your comments on the updated doc= ument. Name: draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv Revision: 01 Title: Seamless BFD for VCCV Document date: 2015-06-30 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 10 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gp-pals-seamless= -vccv-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vcc= v/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv-01 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-gp-pals-seamless-= vccv-01 Thanks Prasad -----Original Message----- From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vengada Prasad= Govindan (venggovi) Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:19 PM To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org; l2tpext@ietf.org Cc: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) Subject: RE: Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts Hello all, Including the L2TP list for comments from them on the two drafts describe= d in the email below. A gentle reminder to the pals and bfd WG lists. Pleas= e note that some discussion when these drafts were presented at PALS and BF= D WG at Dallas (IETF-92).=20 Thanks Prasad -----Original Message----- From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vengada Prasad Govin= dan (venggovi) Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:23 PM To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org Cc: Jeffrey Haas (jhaas@pfrc.org); Carlos Pignataro (cpign= ata); agmalis@gmail.com; nobo.akiya.dev@gmail.com; Stewart Bryant (stbryant= ) Subject: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts Hello all, We have submitted two new drafts: a. draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv: This draft defines the SBFD protocol operat= ion for VCCV. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv/ b. draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator: This draft defines AVPs for adverti= sement of SBFD discriminators in L2TP. We welcome comments/ feedback on these drafts. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ Thanks Prasad

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directora= te reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-relat= ed drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes o= n special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see= =E2=80=8Bhttp://tr= ac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the= use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IE= TF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-07.t= xt
Reviewer: Lizhong Jin
Review Date: 2nd June
IETF LC End Date:
Intended Status: Standards Track

Summary:Comments:

Overall, although there i= s no major technical issues for this draft, it is strongly suggested to improve the English description to make = it neat, and easier to be understood.

Major Issues:

No major issues found

Minor Issues:

1.Abstract: =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D sho= uld be =E2=80=9Cservice=E2=80=9D

2.Abstract: =E2=80=9Cthe MAC address based Ethernet forwarding engine and the PW work in the same way as before= =E2=80=9D, you should tell the detail of =E2=80=9Cbefore=E2=80=9D here, or add a refer= ence here.

3.Abstract: =E2=80=9Cis=E2=80=9D should be= =E2=80=9Care=E2=80=9D

4.Section3 overall, suggest to reorganize section 3. Split the section into two parts: 1. Introduction; 2. Motivation

5.Section3: =E2=80=9Cin fact, there is no exact corresponding terminology in IETF yet.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cterminology= =E2=80=9D could not be a reason. You should list the technology reason if you want to compare.

6.Section3: =E2=80=9CThough there were proposals on using PW control word or PWs to indicate the root/leaf attribu= te of an E-Tree frame, both methods are limited in that they are only applicab= le to "VPLS only" networks.=E2=80=9D You should have reference for o= ther proposals. But I don=E2=80=99t think you need to list these proposals, instead only sa= y the motivation of the VLAN based solution.

7.Section4.1: =E2=80=9CFig. 1 and Fig. 2 (both figures are extracted from [RFC6246])=E2=80=9D. You should switch the= number of Fig1 and Fig2, since Fig1 is a detail description of Fig2.

8.Section4.1: =E2=80=9CTherefore, the association between an AC port and a PW on a VSI is difficult, sometimes ev= en impossible.=E2=80=9D Could not understand what=E2=80=99s the purpose of thi= s sentence here?

9.Section4.1: =E2=80=9CAssuming this mechanism is implemented in the bridge module, it is quite straightforward = to infer a VPLS PE model with two VSIs to support the E-Tree (as shown in Fig. 3).=E2=80=9D Could move the analysis to motivation section, or removed. And= the logic here is not right. The leaf/root VLAN indication is only for filtering, not bridging. So it is not accurate to have Root/Leave S-VLAN here to get the enhanced model.

10.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section4.2: =E2=80=9Cand optionally MAY be added with another root S-VLAN.=E2=80=9D When and why add another root S= -VLAN here? And why use terminology =E2=80=9Croot S-VLAN=E2=80=9D, not root VLAN as ind= icated in Figure4?

11.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section4.2: =E2=80=9CFor an S-VLAN tagged port, the S-VLAN tag in the Ethernet frames received from the root A= Cs SHOULD be translated to the root S-VLAN in the VPLS network domain=E2=80=9D= . The description of S-VLAN tagged port is not accurate here. I think here, you w= ant to refer to a port receiving a packet with both S-VLAN & C-VLAN. So it = is better to say, =E2=80=9Cwhen receiving a packet with both S&C VLAN=E2= =80=A6=E2=80=9D. Same suggestion to previous paragraphs. If S-VLAN only packet received, still translate S-VLAN to root S-VLAN?

12.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section4.2: =E2=80=9Cthe E-Tree attribute may also be indicated with two I-SID tags in the bridge module=E2= =80=9D. Suggest to remove since it is not part of this document.

13.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section5.2: =E2=80=9CFor both methods, VLAN mapping parameters from a remote PE can be provisioned or determined b= y a signaling protocol as described in Section 6 when a PW is being established= =E2=80=9D. For the global method, why we need signaling?

14.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section5.3.1: =E2=80=9Ci.e., the local leaf VLAN in a frame is translated to the remote leaf VLAN; the local root = VLAN in a frame is translated to the remote root VLAN=E2=80=9D. Here you should = refer back to section 4.

15.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section5.3.2: =E2=80=9CUpon receiving frames on the PW, add a VLAN tag with a value of the local root VLAN to the frames.=E2=80=9D Not understand here. Does that mean all receiving frames w= ill be considered to be from root? Then how to isolate traffic between two leaves?=

16.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section5.3.3: =E2=80=9CIf a PE is in the Optimized Mode for a PW, upon transmit=E2=80=9D. Suggest to: If a PE is= in the Optimized Mode for a PW, upon transmit to leaf only nodes.

17.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section6.1: =E2=80=9CIf the bit V is set, and the PE is capable of VLAN mapping, then the PE with the minimum IP address MUST set VLAN-Mapping-Mode to TRUE;=E2=80=9D Which IP address? The = address in the LDP IP header?

18.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section6.1: =E2=80=9C2) If the P bit is set, then:=E2=80=9D If above is pseudo code, then the code format should be= more formal, to make it clear and neat.

19.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section6.1: =E2=80=9CIf the PE is a leaf-only node itself, then a label release message with a status code "Leaf to Leaf PW released" is sent to the peer PE and exit the process;=E2=80=9D When both PE release the mapping. Then when one PE1 chang= e the setting to have both root&leaf, and send label mapping to PE2, will PE2= be triggered to send label mapping to PE1? According to RFC5036, I think the a= nswer is no. You need additional mechanism here.

20.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section6.1: the E-Tree Sub-TLV parameters updating should be also mentioned in this section.

21.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section6.2: =E2=80=9CData plane in the VPLS is the same as described in Section 4.2 of [RFC4761], and data plane processing for a PW is the same as described at the end of Section 6.1.=E2= =80=9D Why same as RFC4761 here? Don=E2=80=99t you have VLAN-Mapping-Mode and other mo= de data plane operation?

22.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section8: This section is too simple to remove it. Or please add more detail.

23.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section9: New security concern will include: since the outmost VLAN is leaf or root, it is easy to parse t= he leaf and root VLAN information.

24.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section10: The allocated value should be =E2=80=9CTBD=E2=80=9D.

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Regards

Lizhong