From nobody Mon Nov 2 18:18:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581E81ACD96; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 18:18:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Awkl7JwMcQfm; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 18:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpgre-esg-01.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59DEF1ACD92; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 18:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.5.2.63]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 7079F8CCE5E8C; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 02:18:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cliff.eng.ascend.com (cliff.eng.ascend.com [192.207.23.55]) by us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id tA32I6kd020417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 3 Nov 2015 02:18:08 GMT Received: from igoyret-c1.alcatel-lucent.com (vpn-2-30.vpn.alcatel-lucent.com [135.224.2.30]) by cliff.eng.ascend.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tA32I43t019265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2015 18:18:05 -0800 Message-Id: <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 18:17:40 -0800 To: l2tpext@ietf.org From: Ignacio Goyret In-Reply-To: <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 02:18:14 -0000 Given the very low quantity of responses (1, not counting authors) and since this is a meeting week, I'll extend the WG Last Call another week until Monday Nov/9/2015. Hopefully, by then, more people may have found the time to read this very short draft and answer yeah/nay. Thanks all, -Ignacio L2tpext chair >At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>Hi group, >> >>This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ >> >>Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you support >>progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the >>reasons). Silence is not indication of support. >> >>This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. >> >>We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this >>draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with >>IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >>* If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please >>respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your >>response during the poll for adoption, at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html >> >>If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please >>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not >>yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Carlos and Ignacio >>L2tpext co-chairs >> >>_______________________________________________ >>L2tpext mailing list >>L2tpext@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext > >_______________________________________________ >L2tpext mailing list >L2tpext@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext From nobody Mon Nov 2 21:10:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357B41B2BAD for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:10:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kb390QJE5BpS for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3B221B2E62 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so4266629wic.1 for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 21:10:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kmEYrv+Ok/dA/WmZhBIGpw6Z2rbfd2d1jR78AnhX0yo=; b=l6YeGuIwPr6SoKoDxD2VKvt6UIlbTB9aozTesGKq1LteBqOBvAMhSVFzjdiC94JvkC U0c5XXiA2WjDYHNRMD1C1L7vsfIHRf4yTuU+1vxvkwBjyN3cwxnUj6LArh7WNaze4AOB jnGRQBjPHB/8vQ18a7gWxCXXMtHNrjl7+T+yglGoTPK6W6rCqWJ8R1nVgjoRVg2wru9Z sTrM82hRNzXZSRdlR5u7E9O0Bj3/GNFOOGIqZISA7Kt/gjMkC0D+zOacFrnKzzEgJkC5 csA6T6/6ME1ArnLkQbxNG3Q+XC+aa9WH0t21HEpJglJArvIsSNJXdNT5wqKY90jVfDv7 N9dA== X-Received: by 10.194.78.162 with SMTP id c2mr26262308wjx.112.1446527422492; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 21:10:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.195.10 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 14:10:03 +0900 Message-ID: To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfd046e2cfaf805239be947 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Please review the PALS minutes X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:10:26 -0000 --047d7bfd046e2cfaf805239be947 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The minutes from yeterday=E2=80=99s PALS meeting are up at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/minutes/minutes-94-pals (actually, they=E2=80=99ve been up since a few minutes following the end of the sessio= n). Many thanks to Scott Mansfield for scribing and Dave Sinicrope for quickly getting the minutes posted and generally helping with running the session. 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The minutes from yeterday=E2=80=99s PALS meeting are up at= =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/minutes/minutes-94= -pals (actually, they=E2=80=99ve been up since a few minutes following = the end of the session). Many thanks to Scott Mansfield for scribing and Da= ve Sinicrope for quickly getting the minutes posted and generally helping w= ith running the session.

Please review the minutes and r= eply back to the list if you see anything that needs amending or adding.

Thanks,
Andy

--047d7bfd046e2cfaf805239be947-- From nobody Mon Nov 2 21:27:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8F21ACDBB; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:27:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alia Atlas" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151103052748.17217.95607.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 21:27:48 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd.all@ietf.org, agmalis@gmail.com, draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] Alia Atlas' No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-02: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:27:48 -0000 Alia Atlas has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-02: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Clearing based on the text for -03. Thanks for addressing my Discuss. From nobody Mon Nov 2 23:01:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FBA1B2EFE; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:00:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151103070007.24034.44172.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 23:00:07 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:00:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : MAC Address Withdrawal over Static Pseudowire Authors : Siva Sivabalan Sami Boutros Himanshu Shah Sam Aldrin Mannan Venkatesan Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2015-11-02 Abstract: This document specifies a mechanism to signal MAC address withdrawal notification using PW Associated Channel (ACH). Such notification is useful when statically provisioned PWs are deployed in VPLS/H-VPLS environment. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Nov 3 16:29:36 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7131B36CB; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:29:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151104002934.10537.90083.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 16:29:34 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-05.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 00:29:34 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : LDP Extensions for Pseudowire Binding to LSP Tunnels Authors : Mach(Guoyi) Chen Wei Cao Attila Takacs Ping Pan Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-05.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2015-11-03 Abstract: Many transport services require that user traffic, in the form of Pseudowires (PW), be delivered on a single co-routed bidirectional LSP or two LSPs that share the same routes. In addition, the user traffic may traverse through multiple transport networks. This document defines an optional extension to LDP that enables the binding between PWs and the underlying LSPs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Nov 4 16:39:58 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEF51B3333; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151105003957.12395.94074.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:39:57 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: db3546@att.com, agmalis@gmail.com, pals-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd.all@ietf.org, The IESG , pals@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Pals] Protocol Action: 'MAC Address Withdrawal over Static Pseudowire' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03.txt) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 00:39:57 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'MAC Address Withdrawal over Static Pseudowire' (draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-mac-wd/ Technical Summary This document specifies a mechanism to signal MAC address withdrawal notification using PW Associated Channel (ACH). Such notification is useful when statically provisioned PWs are deployed in VPLS/H-VPLS environment. Working Group Summary This draft was previously in the L2VPN WG before being moved to the PALS WG. It was a typical draft, with most of the technical comments being made as it progressed through several revisions as an individual draft. As a result, it was in pretty good shape when it reached PALS WG LC. Both PALS chairs reviewed the draft in detail and provided comments, which were addressed by the authors prior to IESG submission. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? As noted above, both PALS chairs reviewed the draft in detail and provided comments, which have been addressed. The chairs are aware of at least one implementation in active use, and there may be others as well. Personnel Andy Malis, Deborah Brungard. From nobody Thu Nov 5 04:21:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE1B1AD160; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 04:21:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89dulCcOnD9j; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 04:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A1A81AD0AC; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 04:21:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2204; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1446726104; x=1447935704; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=+8o7FaWGyi5BlQYR3e++1kceK7gBfj9HNOEWCj6LjVw=; b=MpllhECYKIyc0/0ozjYzSN6/K2EFR3bR/axRWPBrvxMmTIjf6LS223vh LDXC5LXA/bCFHS6e9NjY6ur2SGUz1wjyilZzX9PdUy60m3cSDAoEK/yB4 8LGcYBmnQ0pgFwgYHXZLZy25dbS1i+t5OBKGwaemXA4a7caiWOGBXWo32 c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0ANAgCGSTtW/40NJK1egztTbwa9fAENgV4XCoUnSgKBLTgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhDYBAQQBAQE3NAsQAgEIDgoeECcLJQIEAQ0FCYglDcIFAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBGItShCoQAgFQhCwFlkgBhRyIBoFaSIN3gyWPEoNxAR8BAUKEBHIBhBeBBwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,247,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="47039605" Received: from alln-core-8.cisco.com ([173.36.13.141]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2015 12:21:34 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-011.cisco.com (xch-aln-011.cisco.com [173.36.7.21]) by alln-core-8.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tA5CLYEh028673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:21:34 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-015.cisco.com (173.37.102.25) by XCH-ALN-011.cisco.com (173.36.7.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 06:21:33 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-015.cisco.com ([173.37.102.25]) by XCH-RCD-015.cisco.com ([173.37.102.25]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 06:21:33 -0600 From: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" To: Ignacio Goyret , "l2tpext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator Thread-Index: AQHRFd3tDGdGYnNAQEm5OI5QwXflIJ6NbgcA Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:21:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> In-Reply-To: <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.118.20.13] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:21:45 -0000 Yes/Support. Regards, Nagendra On 11/2/15, 9:17 PM, "Pals on behalf of Ignacio Goyret" wrote: >Given the very low quantity of responses (1, not counting authors) >and since this is a meeting week, I'll extend the WG Last Call >another week until Monday Nov/9/2015. > >Hopefully, by then, more people may have found the time to read >this very short draft and answer yeah/nay. > >Thanks all, > >-Ignacio >L2tpext chair > > >>At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>>Hi group,=20 >>> >>>This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>>draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ >>> >>>Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you support >>>progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the >>>reasons). Silence is not indication of support. >>> >>>This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. >>> >>>We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this >>>draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with >>>IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>> >>>* If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please >>>respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your >>>response during the poll for adoption, at >>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html >>> >>>If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please >>>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not >>>yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>> >>>Thank you, >>> >>>Carlos and Ignacio >>>L2tpext co-chairs >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>L2tpext mailing list >>>L2tpext@ietf.org >>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext >> >>_______________________________________________ >>L2tpext mailing list >>L2tpext@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext > >_______________________________________________ >Pals mailing list >Pals@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Thu Nov 5 06:22:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5481B2D8B; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 06:22:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hx4OLk2tUk7T; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 06:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1F0A1B2D9A; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 06:22:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1757; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1446733367; x=1447942967; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=dhHj4lIquUZt+7RM4WhWRyLMmbli5C/VTr/GKnWjzsw=; b=jYkZMmmRVmW9EgOf+Tr4bCBxaZJGbuzSi/YCGVXhq7wqqWO7sM4ogm7+ 1jOTxozhnxDDmjFo4c4ydvBI1bG7ScyXhqx+NPBUaRCETF8NXYqN/FCno 0yggoyt2nZqwSbnD+TJQx8Ep/4N6UcKoWxJRnX88QAGg2DnX7JvjybRti A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0D2AQBfZTtW/4kNJK1egztTbwa+AwENgV4XCoUlSgKBLzgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhDYBAQQBAQE3NAsQAgEIDgoeECcLJQIEAQ0FCYglDcF6AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBGIZUhH6EKhACAVCELAWSZ4NhAYUciAaBWkiDd5I3g3EBHwEBQoQEcgGEF4EHAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,247,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="42225794" Received: from alln-core-4.cisco.com ([173.36.13.137]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2015 14:22:46 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-001.cisco.com (xch-aln-001.cisco.com [173.36.7.11]) by alln-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tA5EMksv008777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 5 Nov 2015 14:22:46 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-005.cisco.com (173.37.102.15) by XCH-ALN-001.cisco.com (173.36.7.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 08:22:45 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-005.cisco.com ([173.37.102.15]) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com ([173.37.102.15]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 08:22:45 -0600 From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" To: Ignacio Goyret , "l2tpext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator Thread-Index: AQHRCqmJ6KUZWu6dS0O8NznO4C8StZ6OkQEA Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 14:22:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> In-Reply-To: <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.24.64.164] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <134A2DCB01C1724E8A8DF5E56CB7ADA4@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 14:22:49 -0000 Support. Regards, Reshad. On 2015-10-19, 4:03 PM, "Pals on behalf of Ignacio Goyret" wrote: >Sent again to include WGs that should also be in the loop. >-Ignacio > >At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>Hi group,=20 >> >>This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ >> >>Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you support >>progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the >>reasons). Silence is not indication of support. >> >>This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. >> >>We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this >>draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with >>IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >>* If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please >>respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your >>response during the poll for adoption, at >>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html >> >>If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please >>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not >>yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Carlos and Ignacio >>L2tpext co-chairs >> >>_______________________________________________ >>L2tpext mailing list >>L2tpext@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext > >_______________________________________________ >Pals mailing list >Pals@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Thu Nov 5 09:22:21 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649E91B3170; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:22:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nr0t4SqcbXm9; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-8.cisco.com (alln-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.142.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94F8F1B316A; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:22:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2638; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1446744135; x=1447953735; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=AQnkc6mGHWo0tI57Js1CwrAI1nLi7jcYXkhB1lnY5GI=; b=AxFnoGp1BuWWfe1AIlto1jDCgvUTXAshY5Qd+sQh/2ba1h/mdhMzp5zZ QnV0NlNr6iskW7FNKX9w67aO9Ko9pKD6uPiNJ3u9I99k5dlkYI04oRc+G ZuWrbdum0DDWFN9XAHGxgcjYN7JqvIq0+HvalNA6WkRUnAWssPRgf8/LE A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0D2AQBwjztW/5tdJa1egztTbwa+AwENgV4XCoUlSgKBMzgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhDUBAQEEAQEBNzQLDAQCAQgRBAEBAR4JBycLFAkIAgQBDQUIAYglDcF/AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBGIZUhH6EKhACAVCELAWWSAGFHId/gWFIg3eDJY8Sg3EBHwEBQoQEcgGEF4EHAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,248,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="205432434" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by alln-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2015 17:22:13 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-014.cisco.com (xch-aln-014.cisco.com [173.36.7.24]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tA5HMD5i003986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:22:13 GMT Received: from xch-aln-015.cisco.com (173.36.7.25) by XCH-ALN-014.cisco.com (173.36.7.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:22:13 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-015.cisco.com ([173.36.7.25]) by XCH-ALN-015.cisco.com ([173.36.7.25]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:22:13 -0600 From: "Girija Raghavendra Rao (giraghav)" To: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" , Ignacio Goyret , "l2tpext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator Thread-Index: AQHRFp2LwH5Y+d3FXE2W8lc6kmGx6p6NwF2A///vN+A= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:22:13 +0000 Message-ID: <25681436917842cfba7a944dd9a006a2@XCH-ALN-015.cisco.com> References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.65.66.14] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:22:17 -0000 Yes/Support the drafts advancement. Thanks & Regards R.Girija -----Original Message----- From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nagendra Kumar= Nainar (naikumar) Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:52 PM To: Ignacio Goyret; l2tpext@ietf.org Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminato= r Yes/Support. Regards, Nagendra On 11/2/15, 9:17 PM, "Pals on behalf of Ignacio Goyret" wrote: >Given the very low quantity of responses (1, not counting authors) and=20 >since this is a meeting week, I'll extend the WG Last Call another week=20 >until Monday Nov/9/2015. > >Hopefully, by then, more people may have found the time to read this=20 >very short draft and answer yeah/nay. > >Thanks all, > >-Ignacio >L2tpext chair > > >>At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>>Hi group, >>> >>>This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>>draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator >>>/ >>> >>>Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you support=20 >>>progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the=20 >>>reasons). Silence is not indication of support. >>> >>>This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. >>> >>>We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this=20 >>>draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF=20 >>>IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>> >>>* If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please=20 >>>respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your=20 >>>response during the poll for adoption, at=20 >>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html >>> >>>If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please=20 >>>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet=20 >>>been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>> >>>Thank you, >>> >>>Carlos and Ignacio >>>L2tpext co-chairs >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>L2tpext mailing list >>>L2tpext@ietf.org >>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext >> >>_______________________________________________ >>L2tpext mailing list >>L2tpext@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext > >_______________________________________________ >Pals mailing list >Pals@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Thu Nov 5 17:17:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A001AD481; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:17:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VWHulu4xECct; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pa0-x234.google.com (mail-pa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56CC81ACEDD; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by pacdm15 with SMTP id dm15so79924347pac.3; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:17:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=CKxMvXeUh6sy6g2lgffyzYXMKF2RcG4RiGfukURZBcE=; b=noc6weEMixQjEkDW1uLvo4I/LTUy6VQy2Z3ftO9woM4DWx+Iq00qgJWCnxYFHt60m2 anYWNlkkN9roQ3FngmRsGUCPGpv8IVysdobVtx1fuX7OIf9zIDHpvCntZOpSoInTz5ou 4B/D9elBj0nsFHk+mP4LqQsG1+3HxJCyncjHmULASETpE+ijOXYshQySQzg7iHsi+vMS /hQq3QEl6INiXqj/I237kxVdtpddr/PLGXRCzA/uCGu+Jki3hoAg+UsGLdgVi6Fbh4BT jEdUiVD3Eu2+sDguFFNLHG7uZ6lhKcPj1CXAxNe9WXF+6SmteaQcWD+HV9RH1v9LBeZ3 jgLQ== X-Received: by 10.66.160.106 with SMTP id xj10mr13396751pab.153.1446772670974; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (c-73-189-176-93.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.189.176.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ha1sm10144327pbc.54.2015.11.05.17.17.50 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:17:50 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) From: Sam Aldrin In-Reply-To: <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:17:50 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <74266EC5-B8D1-4211-B24D-6C63D9772686@gmail.com> References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> To: Ignacio Goyret X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org, l2tpext@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 01:17:53 -0000 It is a simple draft to extend support for SBFD. Support to advance the document. -sam > On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Ignacio Goyret = wrote: >=20 > Given the very low quantity of responses (1, not counting authors) > and since this is a meeting week, I'll extend the WG Last Call > another week until Monday Nov/9/2015. >=20 > Hopefully, by then, more people may have found the time to read > this very short draft and answer yeah/nay. >=20 > Thanks all, >=20 > -Ignacio > L2tpext chair >=20 >=20 >> At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>> Hi group,=20 >>>=20 >>> This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>> draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>> = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ >>>=20 >>> Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you = support >>> progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the >>> reasons). Silence is not indication of support. >>>=20 >>> This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. >>>=20 >>> We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this >>> draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with >>> IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more = details). >>>=20 >>> * If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please >>> respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your >>> response during the poll for adoption, at = http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html >>>=20 >>> If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please >>> explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not >>> yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>>=20 >>> Thank you, >>>=20 >>> Carlos and Ignacio >>> L2tpext co-chairs >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> L2tpext mailing list >>> L2tpext@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> L2tpext mailing list >> L2tpext@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Thu Nov 5 21:52:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3D1A886F; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:52:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f7JX4fgByqDO; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-2.cisco.com (alln-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.142.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 152891A8872; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:52:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2413; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1446789166; x=1447998766; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=5zd5BGCEp9POCz+MNifyz3OXa2zjiD7gUI03Ci0saWw=; b=DrtQNJluQHaQeNvUFD4KONAqsjG04cYIj9QSbw53Z2Z7oPitgAylzKOa DH/69ncLloMoaaFlmowHl+FchCQBNM5TNv9Xk5VKOcNKoyN1jZ2iSb1Mc Hr3VbDACia6shxDq0aeOAwPvXwaDWxvp6R3iVcPdAnNzilptogoS262+W w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0AQAgDtPjxW/4cNJK1egztTbwa+BwENgWAXCoUlSgKBOjgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhDYBAQQBAQE3NAsQAgEIDgoeEB8ICyUCBAENBQmIJQ3BDQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARiGVIR+hCoQAgFQhCwFlkgBDoUOiAaBWkiDd4MljxKDcQEfAQFChARyAYQMgQcBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,250,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="204301325" Received: from alln-core-2.cisco.com ([173.36.13.135]) by alln-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2015 05:52:34 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-017.cisco.com (xch-rtp-017.cisco.com [64.101.220.157]) by alln-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tA65qXWx015752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 6 Nov 2015 05:52:33 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-016.cisco.com (64.101.220.156) by XCH-RTP-017.cisco.com (64.101.220.157) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 00:52:32 -0500 Received: from xch-rtp-016.cisco.com ([64.101.220.156]) by XCH-RTP-016.cisco.com ([64.101.220.156]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 00:52:32 -0500 From: "MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon)" To: Ignacio Goyret , "l2tpext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator Thread-Index: AQHRFp2LF0XUzSYtmkuyyD+YQdEB856Nr5qAgAGCzoA= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 05:52:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201511030218.tA32I43t019265@cliff.eng.ascend.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.143.26.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8F8499BCA4F7BA4F85A355AD231F2026@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 05:52:50 -0000 I support progressing the draft Regards Mallik On 05/11/15 17:51, "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" wrote: >Yes/Support. > >Regards, >Nagendra > >On 11/2/15, 9:17 PM, "Pals on behalf of Ignacio Goyret" > wrote: > >>Given the very low quantity of responses (1, not counting authors) >>and since this is a meeting week, I'll extend the WG Last Call >>another week until Monday Nov/9/2015. >> >>Hopefully, by then, more people may have found the time to read >>this very short draft and answer yeah/nay. >> >>Thanks all, >> >>-Ignacio >>L2tpext chair >> >> >>>At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>>>Hi group,=20 >>>> >>>>This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>>>draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ >>>> >>>>Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you support >>>>progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the >>>>reasons). Silence is not indication of support. >>>> >>>>This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. >>>> >>>>We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this >>>>draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with >>>>IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>>> >>>>* If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please >>>>respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your >>>>response during the poll for adoption, at >>>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html >>>> >>>>If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please >>>>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not >>>>yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>>> >>>>Thank you, >>>> >>>>Carlos and Ignacio >>>>L2tpext co-chairs >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>L2tpext mailing list >>>>L2tpext@ietf.org >>>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>L2tpext mailing list >>>L2tpext@ietf.org >>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2tpext >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pals mailing list >>Pals@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > From nobody Fri Nov 6 00:33:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971F11A3B9B; 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Fri, 6 Nov 2015 08:33:21 +0000 From: Santosh Esale To: "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp Thread-Index: AQHRGG3KsLe0Q/Ppik+SjKMccUg7Kg== Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 08:33:20 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616 authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=sesale@juniper.net; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [66.129.239.12] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BY2PR05MB191; 5:VhBCRG/ACRYuFHPieIn5VKFh8NovV1mc3dJIokifsoMMPcUc8bf6R9QGv99YCWsAkZDt7LbLYJz5/Ad8Dxmfi5i/w9uWCaoRbH9vZrF8N6n+qPkBftd1q5uSSDCvA4y6AFJlObUppO8SBOgPPXhDlQ==; 24:uY4Rtmhmlv9ZC59610hDcjQ2doPhv6XIurcfIeL0cLDE5yE7N34ylR38pqZSuNSc+apc3ROcJsESdx9GHs/N2t5NR1Cp6DD6i+vJCOjve9E=; 20:zP5FLho6zJjo8BKvNdR0VUsEEBGuTilA5PC1vx+eA/X6gj3Tqpi1y8S1BD6jOYrVD7mwzSBMqPgHbJrKn13GVQ== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB191; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3231A0D437E1A647AFEF9B4C05F2EFDD@namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Nov 2015 08:33:20.4009 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR05MB191 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [Pals] draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 08:33:26 -0000 This draft has been presented in MPLS working group since IETF Toronto. As it also overlaps with this working group, find below short introduction to this draft. Name: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp URL: =20 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-01.txt Status: =20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ Htmlized: =20 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-01 Abstract: Recent targeted LDP applications such as remote loop-free alternate (LFA) and BGP auto discovered pseudowire may automatically establish a tLDP session to any LSR in a network. The initiating LSR has information about the targeted applications to administratively control initiation of the session. However, the responding LSR has no such information to control acceptance of this session. This document defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted Applications Capability during LDP session initialization. As the responding LSR becomes aware of targeted applications, it may establish a limited number of tLDP sessions for certain applications. In addition, each targeted application is mapped to LDP Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC) Elements to advertise only necessary LDP FEC-label bindings over the session. Please go through it and let us know your feedbacks and comments. Thanks Santosh (On behalf of authors) From nobody Mon Nov 9 17:34:24 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8261B2DED; Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.9.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151110013422.29987.27469.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:34:22 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-10.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 01:34:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Ethernet-Tree (E-Tree) Support in Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Authors : Yuanlong Jiang Lucy Yong Manuel Paul Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-10.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2015-11-09 Abstract: This document specifies a generic Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) solution which uses VLANs to indicate root or leaf traffic to support Ethernet-Tree (E-Tree) services. A VPLS Provider Edge (PE) model is illustrated as an example for the solution. In the solution, E-Tree VPLS PEs are interconnected by Pseudo Wires (PWs) which carry the VLAN indicating the E-Tree attribute. The MAC address-based Ethernet forwarding engine and the PW work in the same way as specified in RFC 4762 and RFC 4448 respectively. A signaling mechanism is described to support E-Tree capability and VLAN mapping negotiation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Nov 9 17:49:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176A91B2EBD for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:49:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f7XlFkRbB2vX for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4FC71B2EBC for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CAC95871; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 01:49:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA412-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.71) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 01:48:59 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA506-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.235]) by SZXEMA412-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.71]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:48:57 +0800 From: Jiangyuanlong To: Stewart Bryant , "Andrew G. Malis" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHRG1fw2EscZz8ujU2fyDVr1PlmUJ6UeYKA Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 01:48:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B68286F88@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.76.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020204.56414D29.006F, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.4.235, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: cbce3c4f1b1cf1e3b220d28a13a17081 Archived-At: Cc: "pals@ietf.org" Subject: [Pals] FW: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-10.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:07:39 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection Authors : Yimin Shen Rahul Aggarwal Wim Henderickx Yuanlong Jiang Filename : draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2015-11-10 Abstract: This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudowires against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment circuit failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE failure, and multi-segment PW switching PE failure. Designed on the basis of multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and context specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair to be performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure. The router can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, by transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-established bypass tunnel. Therefore, the mechanism can be used to reduce traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and the network converges on the topology changes due to the failure. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Malis" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: To: Yimin Shen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb03ef87314fa05243145ce Archived-At: Cc: Rahul Aggarwal , Yuanlong Jiang , Wim Henderickx , pals Subject: Re: [Pals] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:22:05 -0000 --047d7bb03ef87314fa05243145ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yimin, Thanks for the refresh and the explanatory note. We look forward to the upcoming revision. Cheers, Andy On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Yimin Shen wrote: > Dear PALS WG, > > I'd like to inform you about a new revision (-01) of this draft, but this > is to only resolve the expiration of the previous revision. We have not > addressed the comments received during the review of the previous revision. > We plan to do so in the next revision. > > > Thanks, > > Yimin Shen > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:08 AM > To: Yimin Shen; Rahul Aggarwal; Wim Henderickx; Yuanlong Jiang > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt > has been successfully submitted by Yimin Shen and posted to the IETF > repository. > > Name: draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection > Revision: 01 > Title: PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protection > Document date: 2015-11-10 > Group: pals > Pages: 30 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection/ > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01 > Diff: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01 > > Abstract: > This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudowires > against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment circuit > failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE failure, > and multi-segment PW switching PE failure. Designed on the basis of > multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and context > specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair to be > performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure. The router > can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, by > transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-established > bypass tunnel. Therefore, the mechanism can be used to reduce > traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and the > network converges on the topology changes due to the failure. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > --047d7bb03ef87314fa05243145ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yimin,

Thanks for the refresh and the e= xplanatory note. We look forward to the upcoming revision.

Cheers,
Andy

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Yimin Shen <ys= hen@juniper.net> wrote:
Dea= r PALS WG,

I'd like to inform you about a new revision (-01) of this draft, but th= is is to only resolve the expiration of the previous revision. We have not = addressed the comments received during the review of the previous revision.= We plan to do so in the next revision.


Thanks,

Yimin Shen




-----Original Message-----
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org<= /a> [mailto:internet-drafts@iet= f.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:08 AM
To: Yimin Shen; Rahul Aggarwal; Wim Henderickx; Yuanlong Jiang
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protect= ion-01.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Yimin Shen and posted to the IETF reposi= tory.

Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast= -protection
Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A001
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PW Endpoint Fast Failure Protectio= n
Document date:=C2=A0 2015-11-10
Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pals
Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 30
URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ie= tf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-01.txt
Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fa= st-protection/
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection= -01
Diff:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pal= s-endpoint-fast-protection-01

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies a fast mechanism for protecting pseudo= wires
=C2=A0 =C2=A0against egress endpoint failures, including egress attachment = circuit
=C2=A0 =C2=A0failure, egress PE failure, multi-segment PW terminating PE fa= ilure,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and multi-segment PW switching PE failure.=C2=A0 Designed on t= he basis of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0multi-homed CE, redundant PWs, upstream label assignment and c= ontext
=C2=A0 =C2=A0specific label switching, the mechanism enables local repair t= o be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0performed by the router upstream adjacent to a failure.=C2=A0 = The router
=C2=A0 =C2=A0can restore PW traffic in the order of tens of milliseconds, b= y
=C2=A0 =C2=A0transmitting the traffic to a protector through a pre-establis= hed
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bypass tunnel.=C2=A0 Therefore, the mechanism can be used to r= educe
=C2=A0 =C2=A0traffic loss before global repair reacts to the failure and th= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0network converges on the topology changes due to the failure.<= br>



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--047d7bb03ef87314fa05243145ce-- From nobody Tue Nov 10 14:44:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735AA1B41EF; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.9.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20151110224428.4113.31728.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:44:28 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: db3546@att.com, "Dr. Nabil N. Bitar" , draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree@ietf.org, draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree.all@ietf.org, pals-chairs@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org, stbryant@cisco.com Subject: [Pals] Last Call: (Ethernet-Tree (E-Tree) Support in Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:44:28 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services WG (pals) to consider the following document: - 'Ethernet-Tree (E-Tree) Support in Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-11-24. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies a generic Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) solution which uses VLANs to indicate root or leaf traffic to support Ethernet-Tree (E-Tree) services. A VPLS Provider Edge (PE) model is illustrated as an example for the solution. In the solution, E-Tree VPLS PEs are interconnected by Pseudo Wires (PWs) which carry the VLAN indicating the E-Tree attribute. The MAC address-based Ethernet forwarding engine and the PW work in the same way as specified in RFC 4762 and RFC 4448 respectively. A signaling mechanism is described to support E-Tree capability and VLAN mapping negotiation. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1756/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2250/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1708/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2053/ From nobody Thu Nov 12 04:00:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4F21A6FAD for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:00:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IvjjmtsT2ARn for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38DFF1A6FAC for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so29239267wme.0 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:00:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:cc:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ywE4IWGISK4oT/EuIcEidWMWMzkQ+ljWdgIhDsMvSNI=; b=vW2NyQj+79icoSJYPhlw0MQTyu4HzKgUQS+jfSwcnjX8mW0EZitCk9qbUupO1lFYQ5 6/3QJEaod5v2cdZ1UE4/fb7i82qSfwOoGNJ0BW4J3kAkBbTMfMT4wUXuq3Fm/iBMfcfu ewv0kDvu4LWgFMkBpL/PS0+hkRqCe5j+PCQjvfMY0q0iLQGIx+Vv6gA0P06vKSgpGwF1 h3yucKL1hjhD3sQWsH9hnrizQDl5OXgt6ehEImmh4wso142RzmC5Jy8WvuXZ5TUFovNT /rzUhXEspEbYhVqqAPpilWs/IjUXEjwWBKLgyQFbbBy2x1UCHOKA+swdJeOmJB9O0nLP Ihnw== X-Received: by 10.28.12.142 with SMTP id 136mr44332772wmm.19.1447329620838; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.55.98.186] ([173.38.220.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gl9sm14100727wjb.10.2015.11.12.04.00.19 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: Stewart Bryant To: "pals@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org Message-ID: <56447F53.7010106@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:00:19 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:00:28 -0000 This email is to do two things: 1) To start the PALS WG call on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp The document can be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ This last call will run until 25th November 2015. Please respond to this email with substantive comments on the document. It is also useful if those that have read the text and believe that it is ready to send to the IESG confirm that. 2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has been declared. Please declare this regardless of whether you are an author or not. However I specifically need to have a response from the first three authors in the author list on this. Thanks Stewart From nobody Thu Nov 12 06:28:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160B41B2F53 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 06:28:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2abj9UrU_jLS for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 06:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db3on0732.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe04::732]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A1B41B2F4E for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 06:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from DB3PR03MB0780.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.161.55.12) by DB3PR03MB0778.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.161.54.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.318.15; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:28:00 +0000 Received: from DB3PR03MB0780.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.161.55.12]) by DB3PR03MB0780.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.161.55.12]) with mapi id 15.01.0318.003; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:27:59 +0000 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: Stewart Bryant , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp Thread-Index: AQHRHUHAPnT+9eccCk2oTifgP8ucIJ6YX6sA Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:27:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56447F53.7010106@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <56447F53.7010106@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com; x-originating-ip: [147.234.56.21] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; DB3PR03MB0778; 5:g5GjLU7yrCD11fFk8Mn/wwrLxr8+mbHBQA1Tu450kLMVQqVau176pdV/FAM/zFAMuyTGmpwnwCMV6AyQcLA3QxBW965h2MEwxL5sDEji+scTYA5T3GPf5vW8YWZ8RbUZ5iKfHC8XMODxgjLmz95m9A==; 24:Gui3LzqUdyq2FkUc1uwu+jgIrD4+X5aSYTgzuk0K1Ft2HFx6LWBsjkCK8GNmw7b940BasHct7Dy8z/bgkJq9VnsrfEHGnxuFUALa/U5n7pM=; 20:Ej6zVU1xXgEbaFQz+JzvBBIVgA6rNT4xlILXZcQckxdk15QxR3GIJ3vancAaY9Fp2s7Ln+vLoQljr6dLi8WYsw== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DB3PR03MB0778; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(279101305709854)(108003899814671); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(520078)(8121501046)(5005006)(10201501046)(3002001); SRVR:DB3PR03MB0778; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:DB3PR03MB0778; x-forefront-prvs: 07584EDBCD x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(37854004)(13464003)(377454003)(189002)(252514010)(199003)(19580395003)(101416001)(5008740100001)(230783001)(87936001)(19625215002)(5003600100002)(76176999)(10400500002)(86362001)(5004730100002)(2501003)(54356999)(105586002)(92566002)(106116001)(2201001)(33656002)(50986999)(106356001)(5007970100001)(122556002)(19300405004)(5001770100001)(16236675004)(40100003)(102836002)(66066001)(97736004)(74316001)(5001920100001)(2950100001)(81156007)(5001960100002)(19580405001)(19617315012)(15975445007)(189998001)(77096005)(5002640100001)(76576001)(2900100001)(217873001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DB3PR03MB0778; H:DB3PR03MB0780.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ecitele.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DB3PR03MB0780434316C935AE6B82E0569D120DB3PR03MB0780eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Nov 2015 14:27:59.6693 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB3PR03MB0778 Archived-At: Cc: "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:28:28 -0000 --_000_DB3PR03MB0780434316C935AE6B82E0569D120DB3PR03MB0780eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stewart and all, I have a couple of (possibly, na=EFve) concerns regarding this draft. Clarifying these concerns would help me to form an opinion regarding its su= pport in the WG LC. 1. The draft mentions (in many places) "a single bidirectional co-ro= uted LSP or two LSPs that share the same route" and uses this construct as = if its two comprising components are equivalent. I do not think this is cor= rect because: a. A co-routed bidirectional LSP is defined in RFC 5654, and its most important char= acteristic is that the two unidirectional LSPs comprising it, in addition t= o crossing the same sequence of nodes and links, have common life span (quo= ting from 5456: "Both directions are setup, monitored and protected as a si= ngle entity"). So it makes sense for one of the PEs terminating a PW and se= lecting one direction of a co-routed bi-directional LSP to request that the= PE containing the remote PW endpoint uses the reverse direction of such a= n LSP b. To the best of my understanding "two LSPs that share the same route= " but do not form two directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP by defini= tion cannot have common life span. E.g., they could originally share the sa= me route but, following some network event, could follow diverse routes (e.= g., if each of them uses RSVP-TE-like FRR in link-and-node protection mode)= . So using such a pair of LSPs for carrying a PW that is supposed to be car= ried across the same set of links in two directions cannot be guaranteed an= d seems inconsistent with the perceived purpose of the draft. c. One possible way to resolve this issue would be to restrict the dr= aft to just co-routed bidirectional LSPs, but I am not sure whether this ma= tches the authors' intention. 2. The draft seems to use MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defined in RFC= 6370. I have t= wo concerns in this regard: a. RFC 6923 defines an alternative format of MPLS-TP identifiers based on ITU-T. Bu= t the draft neither supports this alternative format nor explicitly states = that it must be supported b. 6370 explicitly states that "the Node_ID does not need to have any= association with the IPv4 address space used in the operator's IGP or EGP= ". At the same time in order to set up a tLDP adjacency with the MPLS-TP no= de containing the remote endpoint of a PW, the active PE (as defined in the= draft) must use one of its some routable IP addresses. To me that means th= at in order to use the draft each MPLS-TP node MUST support 1:1 mapping bet= ween routable IP addresses used as the endpoints of tLDP adjacencies and MP= LS-TP Node Identifiers for all the nodes in the domain. A trivial way to ac= hieve that would be using loopback IP addresses of these nodes as their MPL= S-TP node identifiers, but the draft does not mention this possibility (or = any alternative). Hopefully these notes will be useful. My 2c, Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com -----Original Message----- From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:00 PM To: pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp This email is to do two things: 1) To start the PALS WG call on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp The document can be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ This last call will run until 25th November 2015. Please respond to this email with substantive comments on the document. It = is also useful if those that have read the text and believe that it is read= y to send to the IESG confirm that. 2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has been declared. Please declare= this regardless of whether you are an author or not. However I specifically need to have a response from the first three authors= in the author list on this. Thanks Stewart _______________________________________________ Pals mailing list Pals@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals --_000_DB3PR03MB0780434316C935AE6B82E0569D120DB3PR03MB0780eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stewart and all,

I have a couple of (possibly, na=EFve) concerns r= egarding this draft.

Clarifying these concerns would help me to form a= n opinion regarding its support in the WG LC.

 

1.       The draft mentions (in man= y places) “a single  bidirectional co-routed LSP or two LSPs = that share the same route” and uses this construct as if its two = comprising components are equivalent. I do not think this is correct because:

a.       A co-routed bidirection= al LSP is defined in RFC = 5654, and its most important characteristic is that the two unidirectio= nal LSPs comprising it, in addition to crossing the same sequence of nodes = and links, have common life span (quoting from 5456: “Both directions = are setup, monitored and protected as a single entity”). So it ma= kes sense for one of the PEs terminating a PW and selecting one direction o= f a co-routed bi-directional LSP to request that the PE containing the remote PW endpoint  uses the reverse direc= tion of such an LSP

b.      To the best of my understa= nding “two LSPs that share the same route” but do not form= two directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP by definition cannot have common life span. E.g., they could originally share the = same route but, following some network event, could follow diverse routes (= e.g., if each of them uses RSVP-TE-like FRR in link-and-node protection mod= e). So using such a pair of LSPs for carrying a PW that is supposed to be carried across the same set of li= nks in two directions cannot be guaranteed and seems inconsistent with the = perceived purpose of the draft.

c.       One possible way to resolv= e this issue would be to restrict the draft to just co-routed bidirectional LSPs, but I am= not sure whether this matches the authors’ intention.

2.        The draft seems to u= se MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defined in RFC = 6370. I have two concerns in this regard:

a.       RFC 6923 defines an altern= ative format of MPLS-TP identifiers based on ITU-T.  But the draft nei= ther supports this alternative format nor explicitly states that it must be supported

b.      6370 explicitly states tha= t “the Node_ID does not  need to have any association with th= e IPv4 address space used in the  operator's IGP or EGP”. At= the same time in order to set up a tLDP adjacency with the MPLS-TP node containing the remote endpoint of a PW, the active PE (as= defined in the draft) must use one of its some routable IP addresses. To m= e that means that in order to use the draft each MPLS-TP node MUST support 1:1 mapping bet= ween routable IP addresses used as the endpoints of tLDP adjacencies and MP= LS-TP Node Identifiers for all the nodes in the domain. A trivial way t= o achieve that would be using loopback IP addresses of these nodes as their MPLS-TP node identifiers, but the dra= ft does not mention this possibility (or any alternative).

 

Hopefully these notes will be useful.<= /p>

 

My 2c,

Sasha

 

Office: +972-39266302

Cell:      +972-5492= 66302

Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.c= om

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:00 PM
To: pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org=
Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp

 

This email is to do two things:

 

1) To start the PALS WG call on draft-ietf-pals-m= pls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp

The document can be found at

 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-= pw-over-bidir-lsp/

 

This last call will run until 25th November 2015.=

 

Please respond to this email with substantive com= ments on the document. It is also useful if those that have read the text a= nd believe that it is ready to send to the IESG confirm that.

 

2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has bee= n declared. Please declare this regardless of whether you are an author or = not.

 

However I specifically need to have a response fr= om the first three authors in the author list on this.

 

Thanks

 

Stewart

 

 

_______________________________________________

Pals mailing list

Pals@ietf.org

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--_000_DB3PR03MB0780434316C935AE6B82E0569D120DB3PR03MB0780eurp_-- From nobody Fri Nov 13 00:13:28 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6209C1A03B3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:13:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zN3HvCLJKULj for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F3781A03A9 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CAG84385; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:13:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA413-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.72) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:13:03 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.229]) by SZXEMA413-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.72]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:12:21 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Alexander Vainshtein , Stewart Bryant , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp Thread-Index: AQHRHUHBVJdAUBsT002zzTgNR0DPBJ6X7AiAgAFKrsCAAAAgsA== Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:12:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.102.135] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0201.56459B91.01AA, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.229, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: af756683eb6ab57c47a5afe4acbe3e59 Archived-At: Cc: "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:13:26 -0000 Hi Sasha, Thanks for your comments and the suggestions! Please see my replies inline... >=20 > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshte= in > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:28 PM > To: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p >=20 > Stewart and all, > I have a couple of (possibly, na=EFve) concerns regarding this draft. > Clarifying these concerns would help me to form an opinion regarding its > support in the WG LC. >=20 > 1. The draft mentions (in many places) "a single =A0bidirectional co-rout= ed LSP > or two LSPs that share the same route" and uses this construct as if its = two > comprising components are equivalent. I do not think this is correct beca= use: > a. A co-routed bidirectional LSP is defined in RFC 5654, and its most imp= ortant > characteristic is that the two unidirectional LSPs comprising it, in addi= tion to > crossing the same sequence of nodes and links, have common life span (quo= ting > from 5456: "Both directions are setup, monitored and protected as a singl= e > entity"). So it makes sense for one of the PEs terminating a PW and selec= ting > one direction of a co-routed bi-directional LSP to request that the PE co= ntaining > the remote PW endpoint =A0uses the reverse direction of such an LSP b. To= the > best of my understanding "two LSPs that share the same route" but do not > form two directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP by definition cannot= have > common life span. E.g., they could originally share the same route but, > following some network event, could follow diverse routes (e.g., if each = of them > uses RSVP-TE-like FRR in link-and-node protection mode). So using such a = pair of Yes, this is true.=20 > LSPs for carrying a PW that is supposed to be carried across the same set= of > links in two directions cannot be guaranteed and seems inconsistent with = the > perceived purpose of the draft. Since quite a lot of networks support only unidirectional LSPs, binding to = two LSPs that share the same route is mainly for the case where co-routed b= idirectional LSP is supported in the network. > c. One possible way to resolve this issue would be to restrict the draft = to just > co-routed bidirectional LSPs, but I am not sure whether this matches the > authors' intention. The intention/logical is that the co-routed bidirectional LSP should be use= d if there have, otherwise two unidirectional LSPs with the same route can = be used. How about we add some text to make this clear and give some cautions to the= case of "two unidirectional LSPs with the same route"? > 2. =A0The draft seems to use MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defined in RFC 6= 370. I > have two concerns in this regard: > a. RFC 6923 defines an alternative format of MPLS-TP identifiers based on > ITU-T. =A0But the draft neither supports this alternative format nor expl= icitly > states that it must be supported=20 There is no intention to support the ITU-T based identifier. Do you suggest= to make this explicitly? >b. 6370 explicitly states that "the Node_ID > does not =A0need to have any association with the IPv4 address space used= in > the =A0operator's IGP or EGP". At the same time in order to set up a tLDP > adjacency with the MPLS-TP node containing the remote endpoint of a PW, t= he > active PE (as defined in the draft) must use one of its some routable IP > addresses. To me that means that in order to use the draft each MPLS-TP n= ode > MUST support 1:1 mapping between routable IP addresses used as the > endpoints of tLDP adjacencies and MPLS-TP Node Identifiers for all the no= des in > the domain. A trivial way to achieve that would be using loopback IP addr= esses > of these nodes as their MPLS-TP node identifiers, but the draft does not > mention this possibility (or any alternative). How about add the following text to Section 2.1.1: "According to Section 5.3 of [RFC6370], the Source Node ID is mapped to the= "Extended Tunnel ID" [RFC3209], and the Destination Node ID is mapped to t= he "Tunnel endpoint address". As defined in Section 4.6.1 and 4.6.2 of [RFC= 3209], both the "Tunnel endpoint address" and "Extended tunnel address" are= IPv4/IPv6 addresses of the ingress and egress nodes. That means the Source= /Destination Node IDs are routable addresses (e.g., TE router ID)." >=20 > Hopefully these notes will be useful. Yes, they are very useful! Thanks, Mach >=20 > My 2c, > Sasha >=20 > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 +972-549266302 > Email:=A0=A0 Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:00 PM > To: pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.o= rg > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp >=20 > This email is to do two things: >=20 > 1) To start the PALS WG call on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > The document can be found at >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p/ >=20 > This last call will run until 25th November 2015. >=20 > Please respond to this email with substantive comments on the document. I= t is > also useful if those that have read the text and believe that it is ready= to send > to the IESG confirm that. >=20 > 2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has been declared. Please decla= re this > regardless of whether you are an author or not. >=20 > However I specifically need to have a response from the first three autho= rs in > the author list on this. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Stewart >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Fri Nov 13 00:21:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C541A1A38 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:21:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T0SKZw-i3YzL for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D97E21A1A27 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CAG85361; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.70) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:21:48 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.229]) by szxema411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:21:39 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Mach Chen , Alexander Vainshtein , Stewart Bryant , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp Thread-Index: AQHRHUHBVJdAUBsT002zzTgNR0DPBJ6X7AiAgAFKrsCAAAAgsIAAZu0g Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:21:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.102.135] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0202.56459D9E.0116, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.229, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: af756683eb6ab57c47a5afe4acbe3e59 Archived-At: Cc: "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:21:55 -0000 s/co-routed bidirectional LSP is supported in the network/ co-routed bidire= ctional LSP is not supported in the network. Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: Mach Chen [mailto:mach.chen@huawei.com] > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 4:12 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p >=20 > Hi Sasha, >=20 > Thanks for your comments and the suggestions! >=20 > Please see my replies inline... > > > > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander > > Vainshtein > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:28 PM > > To: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > > > > Stewart and all, > > I have a couple of (possibly, na=EFve) concerns regarding this draft. > > Clarifying these concerns would help me to form an opinion regarding > > its support in the WG LC. > > > > 1. The draft mentions (in many places) "a single =A0bidirectional > > co-routed LSP or two LSPs that share the same route" and uses this > > construct as if its two comprising components are equivalent. I do not = think > this is correct because: > > a. A co-routed bidirectional LSP is defined in RFC 5654, and its most > > important characteristic is that the two unidirectional LSPs > > comprising it, in addition to crossing the same sequence of nodes and > > links, have common life span (quoting from 5456: "Both directions are > > setup, monitored and protected as a single entity"). So it makes sense > > for one of the PEs terminating a PW and selecting one direction of a > > co-routed bi-directional LSP to request that the PE containing the > > remote PW endpoint =A0uses the reverse direction of such an LSP b. To > > the best of my understanding "two LSPs that share the same route" but > > do not form two directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP by > > definition cannot have common life span. E.g., they could originally > > share the same route but, following some network event, could follow > > diverse routes (e.g., if each of them uses RSVP-TE-like FRR in > > link-and-node protection mode). So using such a pair of >=20 > Yes, this is true. >=20 > > LSPs for carrying a PW that is supposed to be carried across the same > > set of links in two directions cannot be guaranteed and seems > > inconsistent with the perceived purpose of the draft. >=20 > Since quite a lot of networks support only unidirectional LSPs, binding t= o two > LSPs that share the same route is mainly for the case where co-routed > bidirectional LSP is supported in the network. >=20 > > c. One possible way to resolve this issue would be to restrict the > > draft to just co-routed bidirectional LSPs, but I am not sure whether > > this matches the authors' intention. >=20 > The intention/logical is that the co-routed bidirectional LSP should be u= sed if > there have, otherwise two unidirectional LSPs with the same route can be > used. >=20 > How about we add some text to make this clear and give some cautions to t= he > case of "two unidirectional LSPs with the same route"? >=20 > > 2. =A0The draft seems to use MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defined in RFC > > 6370. I have two concerns in this regard: > > a. RFC 6923 defines an alternative format of MPLS-TP identifiers based > > on ITU-T. =A0But the draft neither supports this alternative format nor > > explicitly states that it must be supported >=20 > There is no intention to support the ITU-T based identifier. Do you sugge= st to > make this explicitly? >=20 > >b. 6370 explicitly states that "the Node_ID does not =A0need to have an= y > >association with the IPv4 address space used in the =A0operator's IGP o= r > >EGP". At the same time in order to set up a tLDP adjacency with the > >MPLS-TP node containing the remote endpoint of a PW, the active PE (as > >defined in the draft) must use one of its some routable IP addresses. > >To me that means that in order to use the draft each MPLS-TP node MUST > >support 1:1 mapping between routable IP addresses used as the > >endpoints of tLDP adjacencies and MPLS-TP Node Identifiers for all the > >nodes in the domain. A trivial way to achieve that would be using > >loopback IP addresses of these nodes as their MPLS-TP node > >identifiers, but the draft does not mention this possibility (or any > alternative). >=20 > How about add the following text to Section 2.1.1: > "According to Section 5.3 of [RFC6370], the Source Node ID is mapped to t= he > "Extended Tunnel ID" [RFC3209], and the Destination Node ID is mapped to = the > "Tunnel endpoint address". As defined in Section 4.6.1 and 4.6.2 of [RFC3= 209], > both the "Tunnel endpoint address" and "Extended tunnel address" are > IPv4/IPv6 addresses of the ingress and egress nodes. That means the > Source/Destination Node IDs are routable addresses (e.g., TE router ID)." >=20 > > > > Hopefully these notes will be useful. > Yes, they are very useful! >=20 > Thanks, > Mach >=20 > > > > My 2c, > > Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 +972-549266302 > > Email:=A0=A0 Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:00 PM > > To: pals@ietf.org; > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > > Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > > > > This email is to do two things: > > > > 1) To start the PALS WG call on > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > > The document can be found at > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir > > -lsp/ > > > > This last call will run until 25th November 2015. > > > > Please respond to this email with substantive comments on the > > document. It is also useful if those that have read the text and > > believe that it is ready to send to the IESG confirm that. > > > > 2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has been declared. Please > > declare this regardless of whether you are an author or not. > > > > However I specifically need to have a response from the first three > > authors in the author list on this. > > > > Thanks > > > > Stewart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pals mailing list > > Pals@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Fri Nov 13 06:28:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA861A8939 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:28:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47xZ4WGLI-nW for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C35541A8934 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so84000572wmv.1 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:28:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:cc:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=52qDuYucCrjrzRFaARwZSiBtqwujxgaeO3inLGt8TrY=; b=JXEE7b+sw7h9IzweNck5IcskM8axiyaAPV3Tfz7nRwPBxqin/POAieXMOrrp3Vb0Mu o7MhJswh4BSuOhsHZ8s3WdiacXMbkNuj9p10GRcRVkjG3cLQ23hX6NuQ9WULmLnxC67P UAL7rf8gWEbg6AeZyrLyZKUBPbotggf8Tw7/yJ+/vvL2aj9ldmWIoS3XYfSOVcvUr3Up czHdtd40uuNIpGDF05UxlJe1lMaiZeTG3Lzbme9PZNkAelbBIuKoPCdMgEAtVI8wgnD0 hwUNCAj6ALlkd1Q2bzlbA6fveViIAlJqUJoXmr6yOW8J28phnmh+dGaO23SmpGpz49lb Bgsg== X-Received: by 10.194.24.38 with SMTP id r6mr26321495wjf.5.1447424892275; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:28:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.128] (host213-123-124-182.in-addr.btopenworld.com. [213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id at4sm20148248wjc.9.2015.11.13.06.28.10 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:28:11 -0800 (PST) References: To: draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org, "pals@ietf.org" From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <5645F379.9010504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:28:09 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:28:15 -0000 The chairs have been asked to issue a WG last call for draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config. Before that can start we need to do an IPR poll. Please will each of the authors reply to this email confirming that they have declared all IPR relevant to this draft. If any member of the PALS WG is aware of any so far undisclosed IPR related to this draft, please disclose it. This IPR poll will conclude on Monday 30th November. 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MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ecitele.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_DB3PR03MB0780F1EBE19FEB850E15C7F09D1E0DB3PR03MB0780eurp_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Nov 2015 05:40:09.2114 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB3PR03MB0777 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:40:36 -0000 --_004_DB3PR03MB0780F1EBE19FEB850E15C7F09D1E0DB3PR03MB0780eurp_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DB3PR03MB0780F1EBE19FEB850E15C7F09D1E0DB3PR03MB0780eurp_" --_000_DB3PR03MB0780F1EBE19FEB850E15C7F09D1E0DB3PR03MB0780eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mach, Lots of thanks for a prompt and very positive response. I believe we are in sync now. Stewart and the WG, I support requesting publication of the draft (with the changes reflecting = the outcome of this discussion). Regards, Sasha ________________________________ From: Mach Chen Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 3:50 AM To: Alexander Vainshtein Cc: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp Hi Sasha, Thanks for your suggestions! Please see my response inline=85 From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:45 AM To: Mach Chen Cc: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp Mach hi! Lots of thanks for a prompt response. Please see inline below. Regards, Sasha ________________________________________ From: Pals > on behalf = of Mach Chen > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:21 AM To: Mach Chen; Alexander Vainshtein; Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp s/co-routed bidirectional LSP is supported in the network/ co-routed bidire= ctional LSP is not supported in the network. Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: Mach Chen [mailto:mach.chen@huawei.com] > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 4:12 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p > > Hi Sasha, > > Thanks for your comments and the suggestions! > > Please see my replies inline... > > > > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander > > Vainshtein > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:28 PM > > To: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > > > > Stewart and all, > > I have a couple of (possibly, na=EFve) concerns regarding this draft. > > Clarifying these concerns would help me to form an opinion regarding > > its support in the WG LC. > > > > 1. The draft mentions (in many places) "a single bidirectional > > co-routed LSP or two LSPs that share the same route" and uses this > > construct as if its two comprising components are equivalent. I do not = think > this is correct because: > > a. A co-routed bidirectional LSP is defined in RFC 5654, and its most > > important characteristic is that the two unidirectional LSPs > > comprising it, in addition to crossing the same sequence of nodes and > > links, have common life span (quoting from 5456: "Both directions are > > setup, monitored and protected as a single entity"). So it makes sense > > for one of the PEs terminating a PW and selecting one direction of a > > co-routed bi-directional LSP to request that the PE containing the > > remote PW endpoint uses the reverse direction of such an LSP b. To > > the best of my understanding "two LSPs that share the same route" but > > do not form two directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP by > > definition cannot have common life span. E.g., they could originally > > share the same route but, following some network event, could follow > > diverse routes (e.g., if each of them uses RSVP-TE-like FRR in > > link-and-node protection mode). So using such a pair of > > Yes, this is true. > > > LSPs for carrying a PW that is supposed to be carried across the same > > set of links in two directions cannot be guaranteed and seems > > inconsistent with the perceived purpose of the draft. > > Since quite a lot of networks support only unidirectional LSPs, binding t= o two > LSPs that share the same route is mainly for the case where co-routed > bidirectional LSP is supported in the network. > > > c. One possible way to resolve this issue would be to restrict the > > draft to just co-routed bidirectional LSPs, but I am not sure whether > > this matches the authors' intention. > > The intention/logical is that the co-routed bidirectional LSP should be u= sed if > there have, otherwise two unidirectional LSPs with the same route can be > used. > > How about we add some text to make this clear and give some cautions to t= he > case of "two unidirectional LSPs with the same route"? [[Sasha]] This would be good enough IMHO. [Mach] Great! > > > 2. The draft seems to use MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defined in RFC > > 6370. I have two concerns in this regard: > > a. RFC 6923 defines an alternative format of MPLS-TP identifiers based > > on ITU-T. But the draft neither supports this alternative format nor > > explicitly states that it must be supported > > There is no intention to support the ITU-T based identifier. Do you sugge= st to > make this explicitly?[[Sasha]] Yes, with an Informative reference to 6923= . I assume that Informative would be sufficient for something that is not g= oing to be implemented[??]. [Mach] OK. > > >b. 6370 explicitly states that "the Node_ID does not need to have any > >association with the IPv4 address space used in the operator's IGP or > >EGP". At the same time in order to set up a tLDP adjacency with the > >MPLS-TP node containing the remote endpoint of a PW, the active PE (as > >defined in the draft) must use one of its some routable IP addresses. > >To me that means that in order to use the draft each MPLS-TP node MUST > >support 1:1 mapping between routable IP addresses used as the > >endpoints of tLDP adjacencies and MPLS-TP Node Identifiers for all the > >nodes in the domain. A trivial way to achieve that would be using > >loopback IP addresses of these nodes as their MPLS-TP node > >identifiers, but the draft does not mention this possibility (or any > alternative). > > How about add the following text to Section 2.1.1: > "According to Section 5.3 of [RFC6370], the Source Node ID is mapped to t= he > "Extended Tunnel ID" [RFC3209], and the Destination Node ID is mapped to = the > "Tunnel endpoint address". As defined in Section 4.6.1 and 4.6.2 of [RFC3= 209], > both the "Tunnel endpoint address" and "Extended tunnel address" are > IPv4/IPv6 addresses of the ingress and egress nodes. That means the > Source/Destination Node IDs are routable addresses (e.g., TE router ID)." [[Sasha]] I am not sure that the reference to 3209 is relevant since MPLS-T= P tunnels (including co-routed bidirectional ones) could be set up by manua= l configuration, and, to the best of my understanding, this would not preve= nt the draft to work properly. Just saying that, in spite of flexibility pr= ovided by 6370, Node IDs used in the new sub-TLVs MUST be routable IP addr= esses of the the containing nodes. Since LDP advertises to each end of the = session all IP addresses of the other end in the Address message this would= provide the required mapping IMHO. Does this make sense to you? [Mach] Yes, it makes sense to me! We will update the draft accordingly with other WG last call comments! Thanks, Mach > > > > > Hopefully these notes will be useful. > Yes, they are very useful! > > Thanks, > Mach > > > > > My 2c, > > Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:00 PM > > To: pals@ietf.org; > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org > > Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > > > > This email is to do two things: > > > > 1) To start the PALS WG call on > > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp > > The document can be found at > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir > > -lsp/ > > > > This last call will run until 25th November 2015. > > > > Please respond to this email with substantive comments on the > > document. It is also useful if those that have read the text and > > believe that it is ready to send to the IESG confirm that. > > > > 2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has been declared. Please > > declare this regardless of whether you are an author or not. > > > > However I specifically need to have a response from the first three > > authors in the author list on this. > > > > Thanks > > > > Stewart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pals mailing list > > Pals@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals _______________________________________________ Pals mailing list Pals@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals --_000_DB3PR03MB0780F1EBE19FEB850E15C7F09D1E0DB3PR03MB0780eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mach,

Lots of thanks for a prompt and very positive response.

I believe we are in sync now.


Stewart and the WG,

I support requesting publication of the draft (with the changes reflecti= ng the outcome of this discussion).


Regards,

Sasha




From: Mach Chen <mach.ch= en@huawei.com>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 3:50 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein
Cc: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-b= idir-lsp@tools.ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bid= ir-lsp
 

Hi Sasha,

 

Thanks for your suggestions!

 

Please see my response inline=85

 

From: Alexander Vainshte= in [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:45 AM
To: Mach Chen
Cc: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-b= idir-lsp@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bid= ir-lsp

 

= Mach hi!
Lots of thanks for a prompt response.

Please see inline below.

=  

= Regards,

= Sasha

________________________________________
From: Pals <pals-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of = Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:21 AM
To: Mach Chen; Alexander Vainshtein; Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org
Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp<= br>
s/co-routed bidirectional LSP is supported in the network/ co-routed bidire= ctional LSP is not supported in the network.

Best regards,
Mach

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mach Chen [mailto:mach.chen@huawei.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 4:12 PM
> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org;
> draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org
> Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir= -lsp
>
> Hi Sasha,
>
> Thanks for your comments and the suggestions!
>
> Please see my replies inline...
> >
> > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Alexander
> > Vainshtein
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:28 PM
> > To: Stewart Bryant; pals@ietf.org;
> > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org
> > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on
> > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp
> >
> > Stewart and all,
> > I have a couple of (possibly, na=EFve) concerns regarding this dr= aft.
> > Clarifying these concerns would help me to form an opinion regard= ing
> > its support in the WG LC.
> >
> > 1. The draft mentions (in many places) "a single  bidir= ectional
> > co-routed LSP or two LSPs that share the same route" and use= s this
> > construct as if its two comprising components are equivalent. I d= o not think
> this is correct because:
> > a. A co-routed bidirectional LSP is defined in RFC 5654, and its = most
> > important characteristic is that the two unidirectional LSPs
> > comprising it, in addition to crossing the same sequence of nodes= and
> > links, have common life span (quoting from 5456: "Both direc= tions are
> > setup, monitored and protected as a single entity"). So it m= akes sense
> > for one of the PEs terminating a PW and selecting one direction o= f a
> > co-routed bi-directional LSP to request that the PE containing th= e
> > remote PW endpoint  uses the reverse direction of such an LS= P b. To
> > the best of my understanding "two LSPs that share the same r= oute" but
> > do not form two directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP by > > definition cannot have common life span. E.g., they could origina= lly
> > share the same route but, following some network event, could fol= low
> > diverse routes (e.g., if each of them uses RSVP-TE-like FRR in > > link-and-node protection mode). So using such a pair of
>
> Yes, this is true.
>
> > LSPs for carrying a PW that is supposed to be carried across the = same
> > set of links in two directions cannot be guaranteed and seems
> > inconsistent with the perceived purpose of the draft.
>
> Since quite a lot of networks support only unidirectional LSPs, bindin= g to two
> LSPs that share the same route is mainly for the case where co-routed<= br> > bidirectional LSP is supported in the network.
>
> > c. One possible way to resolve this issue would be to restrict th= e
> > draft to just co-routed bidirectional LSPs, but I am not sure whe= ther
> > this matches the authors' intention.
>
> The intention/logical is that the co-routed bidirectional LSP should b= e used if
> there have, otherwise two unidirectional LSPs with the same route can = be
> used.
>
> How about we add some text to make this clear and give some cautions t= o the
> case of "two unidirectional LSPs with the same route"?

= [[Sasha]] This would be good enough IMHO= .

=  

= [Mach] Great!

=
>
> > 2.  The draft seems to use MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defin= ed in RFC
> > 6370. I have two concerns in this regard:
> > a. RFC 6923 defines an alternative format of MPLS-TP identifiers = based
> > on ITU-T.  But the draft neither supports this alternative f= ormat nor
> > explicitly states that it must be supported
>
> There is no intention to support the ITU-T based identifier. Do you su= ggest to
> make this explicitly?[[Sasha= ]] Yes, with an Informative reference to 6923. I assume that Info= rmative would be sufficient for something that is not going to be implement= ed3D"��". 

=  

= [Mach] OK.

=
>
> >b. 6370 explicitly states that "the Node_ID  does not&nb= sp; need to have any
> >association with the IPv4 address space used in  the  op= erator's IGP or
> >EGP". At the same time in order to set up a tLDP  adjace= ncy with the
> >MPLS-TP node containing the remote endpoint of a PW, the  act= ive PE (as
> >defined in the draft) must use one of its some routable IP  a= ddresses.
> >To me that means that in order to use the draft each MPLS-TP node&= nbsp; MUST
> >support 1:1 mapping between routable IP addresses used as the
> >endpoints of tLDP adjacencies and MPLS-TP Node Identifiers for all= the
> >nodes in  the domain. A trivial way to achieve that would be = using
> >loopback IP addresses  of these nodes as their MPLS-TP node > >identifiers, but the draft does not  mention this possibility= (or any
> alternative).
>
> How about add the following text to Section 2.1.1:
> "According to Section 5.3 of [RFC6370], the Source Node ID is map= ped to the
> "Extended Tunnel ID" [RFC3209], and the Destination Node ID = is mapped to the
> "Tunnel endpoint address". As defined in Section 4.6.1 and 4= .6.2 of [RFC3209],
> both the "Tunnel endpoint address" and "Extended tunnel= address" are
> IPv4/IPv6 addresses of the ingress and egress nodes. That means the > Source/Destination Node IDs are routable addresses (e.g., TE router ID= )."

= [[Sasha]] I am not sure that the re= ference to 3209 is relevant since MPLS-TP tunnels (including co-routed bidirectional ones) could be set up by manual configuration, and= , to the best of my understanding, this would not prevent the draft to work= properly. Just saying that, in spite of flexibility provided by 6370,=   Node IDs used in the new sub-TLVs MUST be routable IP addresses of the the containing nodes. Since LDP advertises t= o each end of the session all IP addresses of the other end in the Address = message this would provide the required mapping IMHO. Does this make sense = to you?

=  

= [Mach] Yes, it makes sense to m= e!

=  

= We will update the draft accord= ingly with other WG last call comments!

=  

= Thanks,

= Mach

= >
> >
> > Hopefully these notes will be useful.
> Yes, they are very useful!
>
> Thanks,
> Mach
>
> >
> > My 2c,
> > Sasha
> >
> > Office: +972-39266302
> > Cell:      +972-549266302
> > Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:00 PM
> > To: pals@ietf.org;
> > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp@tools.ietf.org
> > Cc: pals-chairs@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidi= r-lsp
> >
> > This email is to do two things:
> >
> > 1) To start the PALS WG call on
> > draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp
> > The document can be found at
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir<= br> > > -lsp/
> >
> > This last call will run until 25th November 2015.
> >
> > Please respond to this email with substantive comments on the
> > document. It is also useful if those that have read the text and<= br> > > believe that it is ready to send to the IESG confirm that.
> >
> > 2) To verify that all IPR known to the WG has been declared. Plea= se
> > declare this regardless of whether you are an author or not.
> >
> > However I specifically need to have a response from the first thr= ee
> > authors in the author list on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Stewart
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pals mailing list
> > Pals@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:26:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Pseudowire Redundancy on S-PE Authors : Jie Dong Haibo Wang Filename : draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-03.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2015-11-15 Abstract: This document describes Multi-Segment Pseudowire (MS-PW) protection scenarios in which the pseudowire redundancy is provided on the Switching Provider Edge (S-PE) defined in RFC 5659. Operations of the S-PEs which provide PW redundancy are specified in this document. Signaling of the Preferential Forwarding status as defined in RFC 6870 and RFC 6478 is reused. This document does not require any change to the Terminating Provider Edges (T-PEs) of MS-PW. 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Operations of > the S-PEs which provide PW redundancy are specified in this document. > Signaling of the Preferential Forwarding status as defined in RFC > 6870 and RFC 6478 is reused. This document does not require any > change to the Terminating Provider Edges (T-PEs) of MS-PW. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-03 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-redundancy-spe-03 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Mon Nov 16 05:56:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB501B29EA for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:56:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.276 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.276 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gNOcMLfVoA5q for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E0E01B29DA for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so120838910wme.1 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:56:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=vb1opFCTb3L72Bk3wJ22hUCnJ+KNUksBkNTRsewO0vA=; b=nHQs8lqoiXKQC5qhhopCZ91zqe1JNGx3WHflhASdF2JELNoS71A6+EIs2LzQl+GI3C cf971VKpABt90T/KinMCpXBtISBeRTLZI5cXU/Q7uetf9ValGY0J1f0PvJepyyiTUTrZ doZpL5e8kQIXtftM38249ELPNglSHUD7rU3QPlIbhxYHOfFdJ+iAjRe//Ba9E4KuEo/w 99V/Ax+QbSzcdLeNv9qwE5kUmROHVLmezy9apHc6ey6jhV/F9jXnWuol+Nq99BdKLd37 7xfWDAwP84ERZWmjZDCtplzxu1OmTn1UuK8m1OEn5o5Lq9Gtpof+134aEqFWhkfh9ocq TFdw== X-Received: by 10.28.135.67 with SMTP id j64mr20786187wmd.93.1447682162087; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from McAsterix.local ([92.109.37.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q6sm15382068wjx.28.2015.11.16.05.56.01 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Nov 2015 05:56:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5649E070.8000306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:56:00 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pals@ietf.org References: , , In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------020302010109020500010703" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS WGLC on draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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Triggered by the discussion here is my 2 (euro)cent:

> The intention/logical is that the co-routed bidirectional LSP should be used if
> there have, otherwise two unidirectional LSPs with the same route can be
> used.
>
> How about we add some text to make this clear and give some cautions to the
> case of "two unidirectional LSPs with the same route"?

[[Sasha]] This would be good enough IMHO.

 

[Mach] Great!


The advantage of co-routed bidirectional LSPs is that the sink MEP
is co-located with the source MEP and they have a connection required
to return OAM information (packet loss, delay, signal fail).
This is a requirement for MPLS-TP.

With two uni-directional LSPs this is not obvious, and in case they are
used should be noted explicitly.

> > 2.  The draft seems to use MPLS-TP Node Identifiers as defined in RFC

> > 6370. I have two concerns in this regard:
> > a. RFC 6923 defines an alternative format of MPLS-TP identifiers based
> > on ITU-T.  But the draft neither supports this alternative format nor
> > explicitly states that it must be supported
>
> There is no intention to support the ITU-T based identifier. Do you suggest to
> make this explicitly?[[Sasha]] Yes, with an Informative reference to 6923. I assume that Informative would be sufficient for something that is not going to be implemented��. 

 

[Mach] OK.

The number of bits/bytes used for the ID is the same, it is only
the format of the ID that is different.
Why make an explicit reference?

Best regards, Huub.


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szxema411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:05:50 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Stewart Bryant , "draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config Thread-Index: AQHRHh+zf4PP0/HnEEyLhh0QxLSXap6fjUnA Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:05:49 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5645F379.9010504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5645F379.9010504@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.102.135] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090204.564A9993.012E, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.73, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: bf087af2649013a614dec1584cfa6815 Archived-At: Cc: "pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:28 PM > To: draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Cc: pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [Pals] IPR Poll draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config >=20 > The chairs have been asked to issue a WG last call for > draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config. >=20 > Before that can start we need to do an IPR poll. >=20 > Please will each of the authors reply to this email confirming that they = have > declared all IPR relevant to this draft. >=20 > If any member of the PALS WG is aware of any so far undisclosed IPR relat= ed to > this draft, please disclose it. >=20 > This IPR poll will conclude on Monday 30th November. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Stewart >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Mon Nov 16 21:34:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD361B29BB; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 05:34:58 -0000 Loa and all, I definitely support the proposed changes. Regards, Sasha ________________________________________ From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen (mach.chen@huawei.com); = BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan Wprking Group, RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the document shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping Pan, in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before the end of the AUTH48 reviews. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls= From nobody Tue Nov 17 02:50:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5AA1A886F; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:50:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bs8pknxOkD-p; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A66431A8853; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so220731805wme.0; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:50:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R5kWJzj9ItJnH/XkAP8MpH5F7RnUA2xu2mN9cK2aIBI=; b=MZkEHnvJnsMAtsEy9fJrd28azYizRiLzQlcxkXKEfapd0TMPEDxhA70KOTWGLfDlNH QHQapYJzemlMFKXEM46odJgp6T3lMwdg0987Tejm2KtgrOI3mWDfbm9D3WnkfeipuCS3 nI39KdnPXn2LivScdig7KM5xVREb/457a/PfDmW9685ITLkQMUqMfM5b+V/oZZDnKyPt Gh4KMjnj3GdD4IL4M7ruKXVN0j3hXXixQAA9itRUiGvVCsodcP2tSiUno4NhzaYOtFD5 Ps/qA9qoolnymE1NOoIQdF4w7eTO0hP9OuBRVCnjol9yaawNuxgHebzt4v++bK5XDLfO gzvw== X-Received: by 10.28.182.11 with SMTP id g11mr1939344wmf.42.1447757410697; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.55.98.185] ([173.38.220.46]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 123sm3282466wmt.18.2015.11.17.02.50.09 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:50:09 -0800 (PST) To: Alexander Vainshtein , Loa Andersson References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 10:50:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "Mach Chen \(mach.chen@huawei.com\)" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 10:50:15 -0000 We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ I support the text going in either or both. - Stewart On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > Loa and all, > I definitely support the proposed changes. > > Regards, > Sasha > > ________________________________________ > From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A > Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan > > Wprking Group, > > RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We > understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. > We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: > > The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the document > shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to > dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping Pan, > in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. > > If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before > the end of the AUTH48 reviews. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > From nobody Tue Nov 17 03:44:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CFF1B2E7D; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:44:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ixknm86iwxPX; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 267AA1B2E7F; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [49.149.145.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2272C1802BC2; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:44:11 +0100 (CET) To: Stewart Bryant , Alexander Vainshtein References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 19:43:58 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "Mach Chen \(mach.chen@huawei.com\)" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:44:19 -0000 Stewart, et.al., I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals wg document. Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the proposed text only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as well. /Loa On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: > We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ > > I support the text going in either or both. > > - Stewart > > > > On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >> Loa and all, >> I definitely support the proposed changes. >> >> Regards, >> Sasha >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM >> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen >> (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >> Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >> >> Wprking Group, >> >> RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We >> understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. >> We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: >> >> The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the >> document >> shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to >> dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping Pan, >> in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. >> >> If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before >> the end of the AUTH48 reviews. >> >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >> > From nobody Tue Nov 17 03:51:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211411B2E91; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:51:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id egUT5KLIAZhc; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F6581B2E95; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so22032014wmw.0; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:51:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=na99SGyJad6IZjqyYJwlvFAkgHT0nHkc24zET7PITrM=; b=TNVtniLAc38DKQEAEZICqD+6G9hjxTcBthSep0v2Xqwb4WDtMwSpGIYNPkzc8eAFsu r/FhIdhceQcr1ohJDrlM6YZafXzN9LUZ6jGzZVKoJLEu2MuitPeuFyKEcF2NJBa9lDfv T7zfvn9oBwuiPgzQ00MOAJksG1ubWBFMyiC7iklKLlczGkKP39E+qPCLykTBoGaDRFrj 9qdsb5pag1Ch+7WoA6fcecUjZtb1RjU4WcHZm+kmkd8NpbfDttvWCy75ExmAADhq+EXn 4LaaN6H84ZLl7jFukvqfOAZRB2E/wjB5nRUHJVyIGGtHJbLws/DwK1TjvVNoG2CBv6T2 8QCA== X-Received: by 10.28.6.206 with SMTP id 197mr2326792wmg.102.1447761082510; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.55.98.185] ([173.38.220.46]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u17sm23606037wmd.8.2015.11.17.03.51.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:51:21 -0800 (PST) To: Loa Andersson , Alexander Vainshtein References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:51:20 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "Mach Chen \(mach.chen@huawei.com\)" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:51:26 -0000 Hi Loa Let's put text in both documents. He was very much active in both areas. - Stewart On 17/11/2015 11:43, Loa Andersson wrote: > Stewart, et.al., > > I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- > pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that > it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by > pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals > wg document. > > Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the proposed text > only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as well. > > /Loa > > On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: >> We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ >> >> >> I support the text going in either or both. >> >> - Stewart >> >> >> >> On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >>> Loa and all, >>> I definitely support the proposed changes. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sasha >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM >>> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen >>> (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >>> Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >>> >>> Wprking Group, >>> >>> RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We >>> understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. >>> We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: >>> >>> The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the >>> document >>> shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to >>> dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping >>> Pan, >>> in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. >>> >>> If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before >>> the end of the AUTH48 reviews. >>> >>> /Loa >>> mpls wg co-chair >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pals mailing list >>> Pals@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>> >> > From nobody Tue Nov 17 04:01:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7641A01A1; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 04:01:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v67ZPT6WjmvQ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 04:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02C101A01F0; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 04:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [49.149.145.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79C5B1802BC2; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:01:03 +0100 (CET) To: Stewart Bryant , Alexander Vainshtein References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <564B16F8.9010201@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 20:00:56 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "Mach Chen \(mach.chen@huawei.com\)" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:01:15 -0000 Stewart, I support that - there is a few words you'll have to change compared to what goes into the MPLS document, the shepherd is not one of the wg chairs so we added "the document shepherd", and then you need to put "the PALS working group" instead of "the MPLS working group". I would also verify that the responsible AD is OK with what you are doing, and notify the working group. /Loa On 2015-11-17 19:51, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Hi Loa > > Let's put text in both documents. He was very much active in both areas. > > - Stewart > > On 17/11/2015 11:43, Loa Andersson wrote: >> Stewart, et.al., >> >> I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- >> pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that >> it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by >> pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals >> wg document. >> >> Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the proposed text >> only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as well. >> >> /Loa >> >> On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ >>> >>> >>> I support the text going in either or both. >>> >>> - Stewart >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >>>> Loa and all, >>>> I definitely support the proposed changes. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sasha >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson >>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM >>>> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen >>>> (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >>>> Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >>>> >>>> Wprking Group, >>>> >>>> RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We >>>> understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. >>>> We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: >>>> >>>> The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the >>>> document >>>> shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to >>>> dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping >>>> Pan, >>>> in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. >>>> >>>> If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before >>>> the end of the AUTH48 reviews. >>>> >>>> /Loa >>>> mpls wg co-chair >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> mpls mailing list >>>> mpls@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pals mailing list >>>> Pals@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Tue Nov 17 06:51:10 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A7F1A8A80; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:51:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZUQNYPMCJGOm; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 188BC1A8A7F; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so231535651wme.0; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:51:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wd3ueJul3rGLWq2G3t8AbIZym1OrA9MB2G1G3xJrPfY=; b=YakOzV05KZQwi15B6RKU4DeorpJtJx0QffX0qh1zS1riLQ/Rh92Cxv5WQwA1EjJOL8 eQyvHifEir70No005VAGhkRdLFVUwcxAKwgt7SleZCBxo1Lky4bfM55HzYJIZ6PY9AJ3 bjFoUjdaqCs0+IKXEv+GVZilAQyTfEcADdbjkUqZ8H3596lYoVuYikUdYE1MFvPQjXlh ENc98aWqFasOdBfP5dIp8WK1VwRMwfLb0HZ6+/O0eWR3LaO21ySbnmH4n7671/fLCvAe Fgr49iAd26cNEwMpGFRdQ6bmuPjRZGhWFDS8qxeps74MQK4XKixZ4/ojU9key5gi61k1 Ldqw== X-Received: by 10.194.10.68 with SMTP id g4mr37699146wjb.151.1447771864637; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from McAsterix.local ([92.109.37.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m64sm24307012wmf.14.2015.11.17.06.51.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Nov 2015 06:51:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <564B3ED7.8080300@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:51:03 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pals@ietf.org, "mpls@ietf.org" References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 14:51:07 -0000 Support! regards, Huub. On 17-11-15 12:43, Loa Andersson wrote: > Stewart, et.al., > > I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- > pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that > it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by > pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals > wg document. > > Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the proposed text > only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as well. > > /Loa > > On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: >> We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ >> >> >> I support the text going in either or both. >> >> - Stewart >> >> >> >> On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >>> Loa and all, >>> I definitely support the proposed changes. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sasha >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM >>> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen >>> (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >>> Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >>> >>> Wprking Group, >>> >>> RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We >>> understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. >>> We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: >>> >>> The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the >>> document >>> shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to >>> dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping >>> Pan, >>> in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. >>> >>> If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before >>> the end of the AUTH48 reviews. >>> >>> /Loa >>> mpls wg co-chair >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 -- ***************************************************************** 请记住，你是独一无二的，就像其他每一个人一样 From nobody Tue Nov 17 07:15:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF861A9057; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:15:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0_IM8c_35fEh; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E79B1A9075; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so30380206wmw.0; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:15:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q+k5OgJgJEqtQLnBT4ysQkR/a4r6ZO/QI/aLlJGc4Ik=; b=grdryXeyvgR+i+UFMXSnQ12pu1SCfyjuQJQsIVFA2X7ixQxihs+DBRrwspXcAHZMBE V2qNtokixig63Y1KcK5bU89eI/awMKMW09Wp+/aaBJWiAziYmLSW0EO2j7JqTPbqN6w/ RfDIY5vGWHWVB4Uf0p74ZsHqbKyPmJzQk4c/rOPUWoXscZEKQCbKqJ6Ls58wKWestWLU 1ok53GtvlVt7+MaWmNnFMduTSDsT0OQtdz8C+zR5NhF//iWIIH0VVfpMb8AqPCMZMAv4 MyakuscfxXyHcoPR3zuP3QGJVlWHD2OfGWW7DwvjOLNTdj+VLKHd7T5dQXifwblxSR1d sIAw== X-Received: by 10.28.4.7 with SMTP id 7mr3204308wme.85.1447773322193; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:15:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.148.208 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:15:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <564B16F8.9010201@pi.nu> References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> <564B16F8.9010201@pi.nu> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 10:15:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141d23095b38b0524bdfe8e Archived-At: Cc: Stewart Bryant , Alexander Vainshtein , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:15:35 -0000 --001a1141d23095b38b0524bdfe8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree as well. Cheers, Andy On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Stewart, > > I support that - there is a few words you'll have to change compared > to what goes into the MPLS document, the shepherd is not one of the wg > chairs so we added "the document shepherd", and then you need to put > "the PALS working group" instead of "the MPLS working group". > I would also verify that the responsible AD is OK with what you are > doing, and notify the working group. > > /Loa > > > On 2015-11-17 19:51, Stewart Bryant wrote: > >> Hi Loa >> >> Let's put text in both documents. He was very much active in both areas. >> >> - Stewart >> >> On 17/11/2015 11:43, Loa Andersson wrote: >> >>> Stewart, et.al., >>> >>> I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- >>> pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that >>> it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by >>> pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals >>> wg document. >>> >>> Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the proposed text >>> only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as well. >>> >>> /Loa >>> >>> On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> >>>> We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/ >>>> >>>> >>>> I support the text going in either or both. >>>> >>>> - Stewart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >>>> >>>>> Loa and all, >>>>> I definitely support the proposed changes. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Sasha >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM >>>>> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen >>>>> (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >>>>> Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >>>>> >>>>> Wprking Group, >>>>> >>>>> RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We >>>>> understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. >>>>> We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: >>>>> >>>>> The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the >>>>> document >>>>> shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to >>>>> dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping >>>>> Pan, >>>>> in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. >>>>> >>>>> If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before >>>>> the end of the AUTH48 reviews. >>>>> >>>>> /Loa >>>>> mpls wg co-chair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>>>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>>>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> mpls mailing list >>>>> mpls@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pals mailing list >>>>> Pals@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >> > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --001a1141d23095b38b0524bdfe8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree as well.

Cheers,
Andy=


On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Loa Andersson = <loa@pi.nu>= wrote:
Stewart,

I support that - there is a few words you'll have to change compared to what goes into the MPLS document, the shepherd is not one of the wg
chairs so we added "the document shepherd", and then you need to = put
"the PALS working group" instead of "the MPLS working group&= quot;.
I would also verify that the responsible AD is OK with what you are
doing, and notify the working group.

/Loa


On 2015-11-17 19:51, Stewart Bryant wrote:
Hi Loa

Let's put text in both documents. He was very much active in both areas= .

- Stewart

On 17/11/2015 11:43, Loa Andersson wrote:
Stewart, et.a= l.,

I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-
pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that
it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by
pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals wg document.

Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the propose= d text
only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as we= ll.

/Loa

On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote:
We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote.

https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/


I support the text going in either or both.

- Stewart



On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote:
Loa and all,
I definitely support the proposed changes.

Regards,
Sasha

________________________________________
From: mpls <m= pls-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Loa Andersson
<loa@pi.nu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM
To: mpls@ietf.org; <= a href=3D"mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls-chairs@ietf.o= rg; Mach Chen
(mach.chen@huawei= .com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan

Wprking Group,

RFC 7697 <draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-11.txt> is in AUTH48. We
understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan.
We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the=
document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish= to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague P= ing
Pan,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF.<= br>
If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before<= br> the end of the AUTH48 reviews.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair


--


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Malis" , Loa Andersson Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:41:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: [mpls] [Pals] to the memory of Ping Pan Thread-Index: AdEhSuXqQL7gxC4aS1OicRoRPWp3YAAFBTSQ Message-ID: <40746B2300A8FC4AB04EE722A593182B9DB6E95E@ONWVEXCHMB04.ciena.com> References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> <564B16F8.9010201@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-21948.001 x-tm-as-result: No--64.866100-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_40746B2300A8FC4AB04EE722A593182B9DB6E95EONWVEXCHMB04cie_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2015-11-17_10:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1507310000 definitions=main-1511170291 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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([64.101.220.158]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:57:27 -0500 From: "Zafar Ali (zali)" To: Stewart Bryant , Loa Andersson , Alexander Vainshtein Thread-Topic: [mpls] [Pals] to the memory of Ping Pan Thread-Index: AQHRISXEkwpbNqdam0GGY0s3iu5ZdZ6gbAMAgAACDwCAAETBgA== Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 20:57:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> <564B12FE.3080003@pi.nu> <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <564B14B8.1050304@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.6.141106 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.89.0.69] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <41E24F4C9E9D1B48A66B458E33E91617@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 20:57:31 -0000 Support! Loosing someone is always hard, losing someone at such young age is heart breaking. He shall be missed. Thanks Regards =8A Zafar On 11/17/15, 6:51 AM, "Stewart Bryant" wrote: >Hi Loa > >Let's put text in both documents. He was very much active in both areas. > >- Stewart > >On 17/11/2015 11:43, Loa Andersson wrote: >> Stewart, et.al., >> >> I think it is OK to add a similar text in draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- >> pw-over-bidir-lsp. Ping were active over a wide field, but we felt that >> it was appropriate for the MPLS wg to add this. If this is shared by >> pals, I don't not see any reason not to add a similar text to a pals >> wg document. >> >> Please note that the words about "last RFC" is not in the proposed text >> only in the motivation "last RFC in the MPLS wg" would work as well. >> >> /Loa >> >> On 2015-11-17 18:50, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. >>> >>>=20 >>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-l >>>sp/=20 >>> >>> >>> I support the text going in either or both. >>> >>> - Stewart >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >>>> Loa and all, >>>> I definitely support the proposed changes. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sasha >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson >>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM >>>> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen >>>> (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >>>> Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >>>> >>>> Wprking Group, >>>> >>>> RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We >>>> understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. >>>> We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: >>>> >>>> The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the >>>> document >>>> shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to >>>> dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping >>>> Pan, >>>> in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. >>>> >>>> If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before >>>> the end of the AUTH48 reviews. >>>> >>>> /Loa >>>> mpls wg co-chair >>>> >>>> >>>> --=20 >>>> >>>> >>>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> mpls mailing list >>>> mpls@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pals mailing list >>>> Pals@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>>> >>> >> > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Tue Nov 17 21:58:00 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343A71ACE06; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.786 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.786 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id stThKaDwqfZJ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80D3B1ACDFF; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CEG54684; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 05:57:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA412-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.71) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 05:57:49 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.73]) by SZXEMA412-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.71]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:57:42 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Stewart Bryant , Alexander Vainshtein , Loa Andersson Thread-Topic: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan Thread-Index: AQHRIN5GPwbamMlick6Iu7eGtbqaRp6fK3EAgABYKQCAAcVOcA== Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 05:57:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: <564A8E5D.3080705@pi.nu> <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <564B0660.3030708@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.102.135] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090203.564C135E.0093, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.73, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 07ea9e9ff0e97d14630fea1d25c2bd1a Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 05:57:57 -0000 Hi Stewart and all, I absolutely agree with the idea. In the current version of https://datatra= cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-lsp/, it already ha= s this: "We would especially like to acknowledge Ping Pan, a co-author on t= he early versions of this document. It was a privilege to have known him."= If people think the below text is better, I'd love to use it.=20 Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stewart.bryant@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:50 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Loa Andersson > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; Mach Chen; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH > A; pals-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pals] [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan >=20 > We have a draft going through PALS at the moment that Ping also wrote. >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-pw-over-bidir-ls= p/ >=20 > I support the text going in either or both. >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 17/11/2015 05:34, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > Loa and all, > > I definitely support the proposed changes. > > > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:18 AM > > To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen > > (mach.chen@huawei.com); BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A > > Subject: [mpls] to the memory of Ping Pan > > > > Wprking Group, > > > > RFC 7697 is in AUTH48. We > > understand that this will be the last RFC co-authored by Ping Pan. > > We will add the following paragraph to the Acknowledgement Section: > > > > The coauthors of this document, the working group chairs, the > document > > shepherd, the responsible AD, and the MPLS Working Group wish to > > dedicate this RFC to the memory of our friend and colleague Ping Pa= n, > > in recognition for his dedication and hard work at the IETF. > > > > If there are comments you'll have to send them to the wg chairs before > > the end of the AUTH48 reviews. > > > > /Loa > > mpls wg co-chair > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > _______________________________________________ > > Pals mailing list > > Pals@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > > From nobody Wed Nov 18 12:55:51 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1601B2EC3; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:55:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cg1pqU6O6o2a; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B95961B2EC2; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from us70uusmtp4.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.5.2.66]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id E70E37B81616A; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:55:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cliff.eng.ascend.com (cliff.eng.ascend.com [192.207.23.55]) by us70uusmtp4.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id tAIKthXq008949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:55:44 GMT Received: from igoyret-c1.alcatel-lucent.com (vpn-17-111.vpn.alcatel-lucent.com [135.224.17.111]) by cliff.eng.ascend.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id tAIKtdPa009417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:55:41 -0800 Message-Id: <201511182055.tAIKtdPa009417@cliff.eng.ascend.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:53:48 -0800 To: l2tpext@ietf.org From: Ignacio Goyret In-Reply-To: <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> References: <201510191639.t9JGdXLG004819@cliff.eng.ascend.com> <201510192003.t9JK3sgH010715@cliff.eng.ascend.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] [L2tpext] WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:55:50 -0000 This email concludes the WGLC of draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00. There was support to advance the document so I will work on the write-up to submit the document to the IESG. Thanks, =ADIgnacio >At 09:39 10/19/2015, Ignacio Goyret wrote: >>Hi group,=20 >> >>This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for >>draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 >>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ >> From nobody Tue Nov 24 16:39:37 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FD31A877A; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:39:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aLfhuwPpBN2n; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4471AC39D; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:39:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id D798F180006; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:37:49 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20151125003749.D798F180006@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:37:49 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, pals@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Pals] RFC 7708 on Using a Generic Associated Channel Label as a Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification Channel Indicator X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 00:39:36 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7708 Title: Using a Generic Associated Channel Label as a Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification Channel Indicator Author: T. Nadeau, L. Martini, S. Bryant Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: November 2015 Mailbox: tnadeau@lucidvision.com, lmartini@cisco.com, stewart.bryant@gmail.com Pages: 9 Characters: 18881 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-pals-vccv-for-gal-06.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7708 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7708 The Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification (VCCV) protocol specified in RFC 5085 provides a control channel (CC) that is associated with a pseudowire (PW). This document specifies an additional VCCV control channel type to be used with pseudowires that do not use the PW Control Word and that are carried over an MPLS network. This new VCCV CC type uses the Generic Associated Channel Label defined in RFC 5586 to distinguish VCCV packets from packets carrying user data. This new VCCV CC type introduces compatibility with the method of MPLS Label Switched Path Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) identification, particularly in MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) networks (RFC 5921). This document is a product of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Fri Nov 27 16:54:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFA61B2DF9 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:54:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b07OsFGSUWmc for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CA041B2DF7 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by iouu10 with SMTP id u10so128404748iou.0 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:54:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QBX2QLCutz0Gov/MxMIifQfME9hAvy1hQfwJlZeKGvI=; b=K3odQjnhPY4AtBtpiNh8vriWZIMbyRQcPrF9wuWLJXsFp3nD3Lka+MrI2rcGuwXw+6 RpRdNShkeF6+EutlrEdZTAtQmA7+1SStIeWPcxqxlAcBKnOR9WL3U8bqaOWqpPYbPqYr 4IfW5oPOxOfuNluZbnEHupuIHXmD6IKnaTwZXxZPuafulzel4emQz3745VlxMVADa8lO cGvnN8FGAAo+ZBpup3NG+frPdqohjb3y6dQ5bFm9oylSdonBz9H+l2boe4XTh23Xs5c6 wwJ5o7eous4VGM5mC8+ab4yh+jeVTJAJf6qatu3iZv19XFqsdLr8AUfG2JHGdimVeknP Pv0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.170.27 with SMTP id t27mr46105635ioe.128.1448672091871; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.20.145 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:54:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 06:24:51 +0530 Message-ID: From: Sinbad To: pals@ietf.org, Markus.Jork@genband.com, alia.atlas@bt.com, lufang@cisco.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114256bc6eb46505258f4199 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] ldp sync X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 00:54:53 -0000 --001a114256bc6eb46505258f4199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, In ldp igp synchronization rfc5443., it states that the igp link is advertised with the highest cost when ldp is not reached operational state yet, so that it is excluded from the topology. since ldp relies on igp to establish a session (especially if the peer address is a loopback address), doesn't this make a deadlock, ldp waiting for igp to converge and vice versa. thanks sinbad --001a114256bc6eb46505258f4199 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

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with the highest cost= when ldp is not reached operational state yet,
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make a deadlock, ldp waiting for igp to converge= and vice versa.

thanks
sinbad
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