From nobody Mon Apr 3 00:31:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16639128708; Mon, 3 Apr 2017 00:31:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149120468404.4325.13839276689611209665@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 00:31:24 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-05.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 07:31:24 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services of the IETF. Title : Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) over Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Authors : Olivier Dornon Jayant Kotalwar Venu Hemige Ray Qiu Jeffrey Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-05.txt Pages : 40 Date : 2017-04-03 Abstract: This document describes the procedures and recommendations for Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Provider Edges (PEs) to facilitate replication of multicast traffic to only certain ports (behind which there are interested Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) routers and/or Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) hosts) via Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) snooping and proxying. With PIM snooping, PEs passively listen to certain PIM control messages to build control and forwarding states while transparently flooding those messages. With PIM proxying, Provider Edges (PEs) do not flood PIM Join/Prune messages but only generate their own and send out of certain ports, based on the control states built from downstream Join/Prune messages. PIM proxying is required when PIM Join suppression is enabled on the Customer Equipment (CE) devices and useful to reduce PIM control traffic in a VPLS domain. The document also describes PIM relay, which can be viewed as light- weight proxying, where all downstream Join/Prune messages are simply forwarded out of certain ports but not flooded to avoid triggering PIM Join suppression on CE devices. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Apr 9 19:26:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A11A1279EB; Sun, 9 Apr 2017 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Spencer Dawkins To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149179118062.3148.8706303119268760928.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 19:26:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 02:26:21 -0000 Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In this text, -iii. If the new value is smaller then the original one, the PE will operate according to the original timer value for a period 3.5 times the original timer value, or until the first valid PW status refresh reduction message is received. Perhaps it would be helpful to explain the choice of 3.5, so that if this mechanism is deployed for a network where that number is the wrong number, people will know how to adjust it? There are several occurrences where s/then/than/ is needed, I think. I spotted at least 3. Other nits … S/octetc/octets/ S/RECOMENDED/RECOMMENDED/ S/vaules/values/ In section 7. Security Considerations The security considerations of [RFC6478] are adequate for the proposed mechanism since the operating environment is almost identical to the one where this protocol would be deployed. It should also be noted that since this protocol is designed to be deployed between two adjacent PEs connected by a physical link, it is not possible to misdirect or inject traffic without compromising the PW transport link itself. All these situations are covered in the security considerations of [RFC6478]. There's an appeal to physical adjacency as a defensive mechanism. If this protocol is deployed in a tunnel over UDP, would “physical adjacency” still be true? From nobody Mon Apr 10 07:23:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2FC1292AE; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 07:22:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Benoit Claise To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org, j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149183417336.3169.4090650965570837178.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 07:22:53 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:22:53 -0000 Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As mentioned by Jürgen in his OPS-DIR review: Section 1.2 is not really about terminology but instead it basically expands acronyms. The section does not define any terms or does it make it clear where terms are defined. A reader who does not know T-PE will not be pointed to a document that defines 'Terminating Provider Edge Node of MS-PW'. I usally find terminology sections more useful if they say where definitions of terms get be found. Section 3: s/the the/the/ Section 4: What is the 'Version' field in the message format? Section 4: There is an 8-bit field marked U C Flags and I _assume_ the U and C bits are the 'first' two bits and the 'remaining bits are the flags managed by IANA. Perhaps make this clearer, e.g.: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Last Received Seq Number | Message Type |U|C| Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Or alternatively simply name the entire 8-bit flags field like you do in the text where you refer to Message Flags and then explain in the text under the 'Message Flags' that the first two bits have a fixed meaning. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Last Received Seq Number | Message Type | Message Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ This option carries less information but then you use 'Message Flags' in several places and you also request an IANA registry for Message Flags where the U and C bit are allocated. Looking at the IANA text, it says 'bit position' 0 and 1. Not sure this is clear enough, you seem to number bits in the order 0, 1, 2, ... It turns out we have several slightly different labels further down in the document for this flags field throughout the document - this makes searching in the text difficult, please use a single consistent name for this message field. Section 8.2 says values 1 and 2 are defined in this document but then it seems value 3 is also allocated, no? Subsections of section 8 switches several times between decimal and hexadecimal numbers. Perhaps things get clearer if a single number system (e.g., hexadecimal) is used when talking about a specific registry. Numbers like 134,217,728 look somewhat confusing, 0x8000000 seems simpler. From nobody Mon Apr 10 12:16:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301F31200DF; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:16:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Warren Kumari To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org, j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149185180609.3110.3817696698007953660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:16:46 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 19:16:46 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with Benoit re: Jürgen's review. I was also quite confused by: " In order to get a locally unique session ID, the recommended choice is to perform a CRC-16 giving as input the following data |Y|Y|M|M|D|D|H|H|M|M|S|S|L|L|L| Where: YY: are the decimal two last digit of the current year MM: are the decimal two digit of the current month DD: are the decimal two digit of the current day HHMMSSLLL: are the decimal digits of the current time expressed in (hour, minutes, seconds, milliseconds) ... Any other method to generate a locally unique session ID is also acceptable." Is the pipe character intended to mean concatenation? Or is it just for formatting? If the former, why isn't this "YY|MM|DD|HHMMSSLLL" (or "YY|MM|DD|HH|MM|SS|LLL")? Is this just CRC-16 (170410124223001)? An example would help... Actually, this says that it is a "locally unique session ID" and that any other method is also acceptable, so why is any algorithm specified? From nobody Tue Apr 11 11:55:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7430D12EC51; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:55:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alissa Cooper To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149193694747.15779.16514922024186868410.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:55:47 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:55:47 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Dan's Gen-ART review: Nits/editorial comments: 1. In section 8, first paragraph: s/rages/ranges/ 2. In sections 8.3, 8.4 the construct "IETF Review" is worded in three different ways (IETF review, IETF Review, "IETF Review") - better align From nobody Tue Apr 11 15:07:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8000126C83; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:07:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Eric Rescorla To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149194842181.15788.5824991862327858584.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:07:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:07:02 -0000 Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- S 1. Periodic retransmission of non-zero status messages, and a simple acknowledge of PW status "acknowledgement", perhaps? S 2. I found the state machine here a bit hard to follow. Some sort of diagram might help. S 4. This is kind of an odd recommendation for how to generate the session ID. Why not just Hash(timer) rather than hash of an ASCII formatted date? S 5. The C Bit is used to signal the end of PW configuration transmission. If it is set, the sending PE has finished sending all it’s current configuration information. "its" Is last received sequence number a cumulative ack or the temporarally last received packet? S 5.2 Is Length the remaining length or the length of the entire TLV? From nobody Wed Apr 12 03:57:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B4213160A; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 03:57:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alexey Melnikov To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149199465368.15808.2211238197065991390.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 03:57:33 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 10:57:34 -0000 Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 8.3. PW Status Refresh Reduction Notification Codes IANA needs to set up a registry of "PW status refresh reduction Notification Codes". These are 32-bit values. Type value 0 through 7 are defined in this document. Type values 8 through 65536, and 134,217,729 through 4,294,967,294 are to be assigned by IANA using the "Expert Review" policy defined in RFC5226. Type values 65536 through 134,217,728, 0 and 4,294,967,295 are to be allocated using the IETF review policy defined in [RFC5226]. For each value assigned IANA should also track whether the value constitutes an error as described in Section 5.1. When values are assigned by IETF Review, the setting of this column must be documented in the RFC that requests the allocation. For Expert Review and FCFS assignments, the setting of this column must be made clear by the requester at the time of assignment. FCFS policy is not used in this document, so it shouldn't be mentioned. Or possibly you meant "IETF Review" here? From nobody Wed Apr 12 07:27:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1C0128B8E; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction@ietf.org, Stewart Bryant , pals-chairs@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149200723468.15689.10155341462184025623.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 07:27:14 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-i?= =?utf-8?q?etf-pals-status-reduction-04=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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Thanks,
Andy


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7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149309062824.5643.11757091542234905076@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:23:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-02.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 03:23:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services of the IETF. Title : Definition of P2MP PW TLV for LSP-Ping Mechanisms Authors : Parag Jain Sami Boutros Sam Aldrin Filename : draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-02.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2017-04-24 Abstract: LSP-Ping is a widely deployed Operation, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) mechanism in MPLS networks. This document describes a mechanism to verify connectivity of Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) Pseudowires (PW) using LSP Ping. 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Malis" , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d31a6a08a81054df7bf57 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:31:08 -0000 --001a113d31a6a08a81054df7bf57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Parag, thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I've checked the update and have found all my comments being addressed. Regards, Greg On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj) wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for your comments. Please see inline. > > > On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > > Dear Authors, > please find my WG LC comments below: > > - per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not > necessary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL i= n; > > pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW ACH. > Will update the draft to add PW ACH. > > > - it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH > Channel type? But MPLS G-ACh Types registry > doesn't > have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0021) and IPv6 (0x0057) types. > > pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 ACH. > Will update the draft. > > Thanks > Parag > > Regards, > Greg > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > >> Having heard from all of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG >> last call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf- >> pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 . Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this las= t call >> will last for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the draft >> and send all comments to pals@ietf.org. >> >> Thanks, >> Andy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >> >> > > --001a113d31a6a08a81054df7bf57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Parag,
thank you for your thoughtful consideration = of my comments. I've checked the update and have found all my comments = being addressed.=C2=A0

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, A= pr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj) <paragj@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Thanks for your comments. Please see inline.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Authors,
please find my WG LC comments below:
  • per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not nece= ssary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL in;
 pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW ACH= . Will update the draft to add PW ACH.
  • it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH= Channel type? But=C2=A0MPLS G-= ACh Types registry=C2=A0doesn't have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0= 021)=C2=A0and IPv6 (0x0057)=C2=A0types.=C2=A0
 pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 ACH= . Will update the draft.

Thanks
Parag

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis= <agmalis@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Having hear= d from all of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG=C2=A0last=C2=A0call=C2=A0for=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-<= wbr>pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01=C2=A0. Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this=C2=A0last=C2=A0call=C2=A0will=C2=A0last= =C2=A0for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the draft and send all comme= nts to=C2=A0pals@ietf.org.

Thanks,
Andy


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Malis" Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:29 -0400 Message-ID: To: Greg Mirsky Cc: "Parag Jain (paragj)" , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c180309dbfff054dfdf41f Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:46:53 -0000 --001a11c180309dbfff054dfdf41f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Parag and Greg, I=E2=80=99ve just reviewed the update, and it looks good except for one thi= ng - now that there are two options for encapsulation, to ensure interoperability, we need to choose at least one (or both) as a MUST for implementation. I would propose at least the GAL Label encapsulation as a MUST, and I prefer that both be required (but I won=E2=80=99t insist if you don=E2=80=99t agre= e). So we need to add a sentence to section 5 along the lines of =E2=80=9CTo en= sure interoperability, implementations of this document MUST support the GAL Label encapsulation.=E2=80=9D Or =E2=80=9CTo ensure interoperability, imple= mentations of this document MUST support both encapsulations.=E2=80=9D Thanks, Andy On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > Hi Parag, > thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I've checked > the update and have found all my comments being addressed. > > Regards, > Greg > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj) > wrote: > >> Hi Greg, >> >> Thanks for your comments. Please see inline. >> >> >> On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote: >> >> Dear Authors, >> please find my WG LC comments below: >> >> - per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not >> necessary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL = in; >> >> pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW ACH= . >> Will update the draft to add PW ACH. >> >> >> - it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH >> Channel type? But MPLS G-ACh Types registry >> doesn't >> have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0021) and IPv6 (0x0057) types. >> >> pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 ACH= . >> Will update the draft. >> >> Thanks >> Parag >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis >> wrote: >> >>> Having heard from all of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG >>> last call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals >>> -p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 . Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this last c= all will >>> last for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the draft and >>> send all comments to pals@ietf.org. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pals mailing list >>> Pals@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>> >>> >> >> > --001a11c180309dbfff054dfdf41f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Parag and Greg,

I=E2=80=99ve just revie= wed the update, and it looks good except for one thing - now that there are= two options for encapsulation, to ensure interoperability, we need to choo= se at least one (or both) as a MUST for implementation. I would propose at = least the GAL Label encapsulation as a MUST, and I prefer that both be requ= ired (but I won=E2=80=99t insist if you don=E2=80=99t agree).=C2=A0

So we need to add a sentence to section 5 along the lines= of =E2=80=9CTo ensure interoperability, implementations of this document M= UST support the GAL Label encapsulation.=E2=80=9D Or =E2=80=9CTo ensure int= eroperability, implementations of this document MUST support both encapsula= tions.=E2=80=9D

Thanks,
Andy
<= br>

On= Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi Par= ag,
thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I'v= e checked the update and have found all my comments being addressed.=C2=A0<= /div>

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj) <paragj@cisco.= com> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Thanks for your comments. Please see inline.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Authors,
please find my WG LC comments below:
  • per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not nece= ssary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL in;
 pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW ACH= . Will update the draft to add PW ACH.
  • it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH= Channel type? But=C2=A0MPLS G-= ACh Types registry=C2=A0doesn't have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0= 021)=C2=A0and IPv6 (0x0057)=C2=A0types.=C2=A0
 pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 ACH= . Will update the draft.

Thanks=
Parag

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis= <agmalis@gmail.co= m> wrote:

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--001a11c180309dbfff054dfdf41f-- From nobody Tue Apr 25 07:03:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D98112F4EA; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwSJgqSh9H67; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x231.google.com (mail-oi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DE0D126C7B; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id j201so172407192oih.2; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eD4HiepOVAe00FND4Q/QDk9b8ZgDObQE8Gzyafhput8=; b=VHq+lSy2YBnx6KznML5WGA4RA2dkUKkioYg0iyUMBWGC0uX4D0VBecFt9kk3GB1Z2p 6ePI2ZxbNLbphG/TjvZIe86uKueQKbBG6ClDYQJ0ZKDreIQ+8UX/MHiU2wjj+/MZj46S RWcc3+QNiUvub9FsB3HTVL0JzWgn2WfnJA62WGudCpCZQo8bjEhw2YMGkvEvDIlrIENF gmo1N9vpIkof3xxwFGAy1L2fgYWCXunVWISs9FUOni0+HQOwrD9oEQv/to8BV3YC1rOw 11B/wUlroNd9e/3gAdXRLfYz3CqBBshp2F9VvHpkjmHKx5GXHMTDm9xM7aPmtiJikFIX Bklw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eD4HiepOVAe00FND4Q/QDk9b8ZgDObQE8Gzyafhput8=; b=DFkg6wW+48i6EK7c/lhW3EO6OsH955Qnb6s2aGL8m255pbIcpu4Vm2ZAe45VH5KTiq dCNJRH+06+ICCqicnHd4K6lep942a+MWv6BDyxDz6qRF2lwxYO1QqR/CohiuaakEYEIo El/ZFUZuZ2HQWNPMVz1BRnBHMdMu0Qu6QZ3eyp7bPKACqM1B1fIxywNWcbjuOzud3OXz 0zUAt4Y/MuRZL6N4eAG6pXrOC9uay7F/8SPE1jkzsuD4GwrJxfoJhAR+zbtm4xpVARSg 0zBx6Fp6ki0mcmb7g+I/boDbB7ZVSDyx9C88Vqx8gSmtMakFxxY+iPEN+pg8d9FsU5kY QuFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/4/Ez5oo1TZJxRs6qw8GyQPZypGRPD0IBgu7ghooKvvjt8lYcDm cHdrl27eL8/yCJQOG52eHfmHHwL9fA== X-Received: by 10.157.9.177 with SMTP id q46mr6831213otd.50.1493129009253; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.52.118 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5D638EAD-CF7E-4036-9D08-7E3ABBD4FFD3@cisco.com> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:03:28 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Andrew G. Malis" Cc: "Parag Jain (paragj)" , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e451633603c054dfe3096 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:03:32 -0000 --001a113e451633603c054dfe3096 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, indeed, the interoperability is the new issue after we've introduced two options. For PW I'd consider use of PW ACH as MUST and GAL as SHOULD. But MUST for both makes sense as well. Regards, Greg On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > Parag and Greg, > > I=E2=80=99ve just reviewed the update, and it looks good except for one t= hing - > now that there are two options for encapsulation, to ensure > interoperability, we need to choose at least one (or both) as a MUST for > implementation. I would propose at least the GAL Label encapsulation as a > MUST, and I prefer that both be required (but I won=E2=80=99t insist if y= ou don=E2=80=99t > agree). > > So we need to add a sentence to section 5 along the lines of =E2=80=9CTo = ensure > interoperability, implementations of this document MUST support the GAL > Label encapsulation.=E2=80=9D Or =E2=80=9CTo ensure interoperability, imp= lementations of > this document MUST support both encapsulations.=E2=80=9D > > Thanks, > Andy > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Greg Mirsky > wrote: > >> Hi Parag, >> thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I've checked >> the update and have found all my comments being addressed. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj) >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Greg, >>> >>> Thanks for your comments. Please see inline. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote= : >>> >>> Dear Authors, >>> please find my WG LC comments below: >>> >>> - per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not >>> necessary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL= in; >>> >>> pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW >>> ACH. Will update the draft to add PW ACH. >>> >>> >>> - it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH >>> Channel type? But MPLS G-ACh Types registry >>> doesn't >>> have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0021) and IPv6 (0x0057) types. >>> >>> pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 >>> ACH. Will update the draft. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Parag >>> >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Having heard from all of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG >>>> last call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals >>>> -p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 . Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this last = call >>>> will last for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the draft >>>> and send all comments to pals@ietf.org. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pals mailing list >>>> Pals@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > --001a113e451633603c054dfe3096 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andy,
indeed, the interoperability is the new issue= after we've introduced two options. For PW I'd consider use of PW = ACH as MUST and GAL as SHOULD. But MUST for both makes sense as well.
=

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Andr= ew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
Parag and Greg,

I=E2=80= =99ve just reviewed the update, and it looks good except for one thing - no= w that there are two options for encapsulation, to ensure interoperability,= we need to choose at least one (or both) as a MUST for implementation. I w= ould propose at least the GAL Label encapsulation as a MUST, and I prefer t= hat both be required (but I won=E2=80=99t insist if you don=E2=80=99t agree= ).=C2=A0

So we need to add a sentence to section 5= along the lines of =E2=80=9CTo ensure interoperability, implementations of= this document MUST support the GAL Label encapsulation.=E2=80=9D Or =E2=80= =9CTo ensure interoperability, implementations of this document MUST suppor= t both encapsulations.=E2=80=9D

Thanks,
= Andy


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 = at 2:22 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Parag,
thank you f= or your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I've checked the updat= e and have found all my comments being addressed.=C2=A0

Regards,
Greg
=
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain = (paragj) <paragj@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Thanks for your comments. Please see inline.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Authors,
please find my WG LC comments below:
  • per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not nece= ssary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL in;
 pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW ACH= . Will update the draft to add PW ACH.
  • it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH= Channel type? But=C2=A0MPLS G-= ACh Types registry=C2=A0doesn't have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0= 021)=C2=A0and IPv6 (0x0057)=C2=A0types.=C2=A0
 pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 ACH= . Will update the draft.

Thanks
Parag

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis= <agmalis@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Having hear= d from all of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG=C2=A0last=C2=A0call=C2=A0for=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01=C2=A0. Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this=C2=A0last=C2=A0call=C2=A0will=C2=A0last= =C2=A0for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the draft and send all comme= nts to=C2=A0pals@ietf.org.

Thanks,
Andy


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Malis" Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:31:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Parag Jain (paragj)" Cc: Greg Mirsky , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" , Sami Boutros Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e45163c6103054e01ef72 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:31:42 -0000 --001a113e45163c6103054e01ef72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Parag, Thanks! Cheers, Andy On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Parag Jain (paragj) wrote: > Hi Greg and Andy > > > > Sami and I prefer to go with =E2=80=9CMUST for both=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99l= l update the draft and > submit a new version. > > > > Thanks > > Parag > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky > *Date: *Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:03 AM > *To: *"Andrew G. Malis" > *Cc: *"Parag Jain (paragj)" , "pals@ietf.org" < > pals@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for > draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 > > > > Hi Andy, > > indeed, the interoperability is the new issue after we've introduced two > options. For PW I'd consider use of PW ACH as MUST and GAL as SHOULD. But > MUST for both makes sense as well. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > > Parag and Greg, > > > > I=E2=80=99ve just reviewed the update, and it looks good except for one t= hing - > now that there are two options for encapsulation, to ensure > interoperability, we need to choose at least one (or both) as a MUST for > implementation. I would propose at least the GAL Label encapsulation as a > MUST, and I prefer that both be required (but I won=E2=80=99t insist if y= ou don=E2=80=99t > agree). > > > > So we need to add a sentence to section 5 along the lines of =E2=80=9CTo = ensure > interoperability, implementations of this document MUST support the GAL > Label encapsulation.=E2=80=9D Or =E2=80=9CTo ensure interoperability, imp= lementations of > this document MUST support both encapsulations.=E2=80=9D > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Greg Mirsky > wrote: > > Hi Parag, > > thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I've checked > the update and have found all my comments being addressed. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj) > wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > > > Thanks for your comments. Please see inline. > > > > > > On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > > > > Dear Authors, > > please find my WG LC comments below: > > - per RFC 5586 GAL can be used to identify OAM payload but it is not > necessary for PW. We can use PW ACH per RFC 4385 without putting GAL i= n; > > pj> yes, both the options can be supported - GAL label as well as PW ACH. > Will update the draft to add PW ACH. > > > - it is not clear what "IP ACH Channel header" is. Is it IP ACH > Channel type? But MPLS G-ACh Types registry > doesn't > have IP ACH type but IPv4 (0x0021) and IPv6 (0x0057) types. > > pj> You are right, by IP ACH channel type we mean both ipv4 and ipv6 ACH. > Will update the draft. > > Thanks > Parag > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > > Having heard from all of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG > last call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft- > ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 . Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this= last > call will last for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the > draft and send all comments to pals@ietf.org. > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > > > > > > > > > > > --001a113e45163c6103054e01ef72 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Parag,

Thanks!

Cheers,
Andy


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Parag Jai= n (paragj) <paragj@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Greg and Andy

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Sami and I prefer to go with =E2=80=9CMUST for both=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ll= update the draft and submit a new version.

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Thanks

Parag

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F= rom: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:03 AM
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Parag Jain (paragj)" <paragj@cisco.com>, "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>, "dra= ft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-pa= ls-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals= -p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01

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Hi Andy,

indeed, the interoperability is the new issue after = we've introduced two options. For PW I'd consider use of PW ACH as = MUST and GAL as SHOULD. But MUST for both makes sense as well.

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Regards,

Greg

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On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Andrew G. Malis <= ;agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

Parag and Greg,

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I=E2=80=99ve just reviewed the update, and it looks = good except for one thing - now that there are two options for encapsulatio= n, to ensure interoperability, we need to choose at least one (or both) as = a MUST for implementation. I would propose at least the GAL Label encapsulation as a MUST, and I prefer that both be = required (but I won=E2=80=99t insist if you don=E2=80=99t agree).=C2=A0<= /u>

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So we need to add a sentence to section 5 along the = lines of =E2=80=9CTo ensure interoperability, implementations of this docum= ent MUST support the GAL Label encapsulation.=E2=80=9D Or =E2=80=9CTo ensur= e interoperability, implementations of this document MUST support both encapsulations.=E2=80=9D

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Thanks,

Andy

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On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.c= om> wrote:

Hi Parag,

thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my co= mments. I've checked the update and have found all my comments being ad= dressed.=C2=A0

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Regards,

Greg

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On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Parag Jain (paragj)= <paragj@cisco.com= > wrote:

Hi Greg,

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Thanks for your comments. Please see inline.<= u>

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Regards,

Greg

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On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Andrew G. Malis <= ;agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

Having heard from al= l of the authors regarding IPR, this starts the WG=C2=A0last=C2= =A0call=C2=A0for=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-= pw-lsp-ping-01=C2=A0. Because it=E2=80=99s over IETF week, this=C2=A0last=C2=A0ca= ll=C2=A0will=C2=A0last=C2=A0for three weeks, ending on April 5. Please review the draft and send all comme= nts to=C2=A0pals@ietf.org.

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Andy

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--001a113e45163c6103054e01ef72-- From nobody Tue Apr 25 18:28:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC751317C4; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:28:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149317009460.5954.10793464353424704014@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:28:14 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:28:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services of the IETF. Title : Definition of P2MP PW TLV for LSP-Ping Mechanisms Authors : Parag Jain Sami Boutros Sam Aldrin Filename : draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2017-04-25 Abstract: LSP-Ping is a widely deployed Operation, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) mechanism in MPLS networks. This document describes a mechanism to verify connectivity of Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) Pseudowires (PW) using LSP Ping. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Apr 25 23:33:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E6F13182E; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:32:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149318837484.7448.7990425053917686526@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:32:54 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 06:32:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services of the IETF. Title : Dual-Homing Coordination for MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires Protection Authors : Weiqiang Cheng Lei Wang Han Li Jie Dong Alessandro D'Alessandro Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2017-04-25 Abstract: In some scenarios, MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires (PWs) (RFC 5921) may be statically configured, when a dynamic control plane is not available. A fast protection mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs is needed to protect against the failure of an Attachment Circuit (AC), the failure of a Provider Edge (PE), or a failure in the Packet Switched Network (PSN). The framework and typical scenarios of dual- homing PW local protection are described in [draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp- dual-homing-protection]. This document proposes a dual-homing coordination mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs, which is used for state exchange and switchover coordination between the dual-homing PEs for dual-homing PW local protection. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Apr 25 23:33:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E410131843; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:33:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pals@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149318840954.14110.5098564198826759570@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:33:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06.txt X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 06:33:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services of the IETF. Title : Dual-Homing Protection for MPLS and MPLS-TP Pseudowires Authors : Weiqiang Cheng Lei Wang Han Li Shahram Davari Jie Dong Filename : draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2017-04-25 Abstract: This document describes a framework and several scenarios for a Pseudowire (PW) dual-homing local protection mechanism which avoids unnecessary switchovers and which can be used for scenarios using a control plane or not using a control plane. A Dual-Node Interconnection (DNI) PW is used for carrying traffic between the dual-homing Provider Edge (PE) nodes for carrying traffic when a failure occurs in one of the Attachment Circuits (AC) or PWs. This PW dual-homing local protection mechanism is complementary to existing PW protection mechanisms. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Malis" CC: Greg Mirsky , "pals@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping@ietf.org" , Sami Boutros Thread-Topic: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 Thread-Index: AQHSnZ0bLiasaCuyWk6hfx6JUGBDrqGWUZgAgDcO3YCACMABAIAAfAyAgAAEvgD///BKAIAAWosAgAD4hAA= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:20:46 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5D638EAD-CF7E-4036-9D08-7E3ABBD4FFD3@cisco.com> <469CD11C-31B2-47CB-AB02-4ACFF10DA22C@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.1a.0.160910 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.86.245.176] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CA71B1286DC64B9A9B812CB0AA5EE05Aciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS Working Group last call for draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-01 X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." 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X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , db3546@att.com, Stewart Bryant , draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination@ietf.org, pals-chairs@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149322384880.4283.16369107787385635528.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:24:08 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Protocol Action: 'Dual-Homing Coordination for MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires Protection' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06.txt) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:24:09 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Dual-Homing Coordination for MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires Protection' (draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination-06.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordination/ Technical Summary In some scenarios, MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Pseudowires (PWs) (RFC 5921) may be statically configured (management plane based), when a dynamic control plane is not available. A fast protection mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs is needed to protect against the failure of an Attachment Circuit (AC), the failure of a Provider Edge (PE), or a failure in the Packet Switched Network (PSN). The framework and typical scenarios of dual-homing PW local protection are described in [draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection]. This document proposes a dual-homing coordination mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs, which is used for state exchange and switchover coordination between the dual-homing PEs for dual-homing PW local protection. Working Group Summary This was a straight-forward design process with no controversy. The AD did discuss with the Chairs and Authors on combining this document and the companion Informational document, though the preference was to maintain two documents. Document Quality Dual homed protection is important for mobile services, and the need for this is called out in BBF TR-221 " Technical Specifications for MPLS in Mobile Backhaul Networks" where it remains for further study. Please see https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-221.pdf Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Stewart Bryant Who is the Responsible Area Director? Deborah Brungard From nobody Wed Apr 26 09:31:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pals@ietf.org Delivered-To: pals@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C5E1314EA; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:31:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: db3546@att.com, "The IESG" , pals-chairs@ietf.org, "Stewart Bryant" , pals@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection@ietf.org, stewart.bryant@gmail.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149322427781.3830.6747452384270724956.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:31:17 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pals] Document Action: 'Dual-Homing Protection for MPLS and MPLS-TP Pseudowires' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06.txt) X-BeenThere: pals@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services dicussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:31:18 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Dual-Homing Protection for MPLS and MPLS-TP Pseudowires' (draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection-06.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protection/ Technical Summary This document describes a framework and several scenarios for a Pseudowire (PW) dual-homing local protection mechanism which avoids unnecessary switchovers and which can be used for scenarios using a control plane or not using a control plane. A Dual-Node Interconnection (DNI) PW is used for carrying traffic between the dual-homing Provider Edge (PE) nodes for carrying traffic when a failure occurs in one of the Attachment Circuits (AC) or PWs. This PW dual-homing local protection mechanism is complementary to existing PW protection mechanisms. Working Group Summary This was a straight-forward design process with no controversy. The AD discussed with the Chairs and Authors to combine this document with the companion standards track document, the preference was to do as two separate documents. There was some shuffling on the content, e.g. the state diagram was moved to the standards track document. Document Quality Dual homed protection is important for mobile services, and the need for this is called out in BBF TR-221 " Technical Specifications for MPLS in Mobile Backhaul Networks" where it remains for further study. Please see https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-221.pdf Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Stewart Bryant Who is the Responsible Area Director? Deborah Brungard