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Title: IETF PALS Working Group on the Control Word for Ethernet Pseudowires
Submission Date: 2018-04-05
URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1571/

From: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>
To: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>,Glen Parsons <glenn.parsons@ericsson.com>,John Messenger <jmessenger@advaoptical.com>,rraghu@ciena.com
Cc: John Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>,Deborah Brungard <db3546@att.com>,Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>,David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com>,Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services Discussion List <pals@ietf.org>,Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>,Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>,Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>,Scott Mansfield <Scott.Mansfield@Ericsson.com>,Eric Gray <Eric.Gray@Ericsson.com>,itu-t-liaison@iab.org,Raghu Ranganathan <rraghu@ciena.com>
Response Contacts: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>,Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Purpose: For information

Body: The pseudowire (PW) encapsulation of Ethernet, as defined in IETF RFC 4448, specifies that the use of the Control Word (CW) is optional. When the CW is not used in an Ethernet PW, it has been found to be operationally common for deployed MPLS label switching routers (LSRs) to search past the end of the label stack to determine whether the payload is an IP packet, and if it thinks that the payload is an IP packet based on the first four bits of the payload being equal to 0x4 or 0x6, to use equal-cost-multi-path (ECMP) algorithms to select the next hop based of the so called IP "five-tuple" (IP source address, IP destination address, protocol/next-header, transport layer source port and transport layer destination port).

In the absence of a PW CW, an Ethernet pseudowire packet can be misidentified as an IP packet by a LSR selecting the ECMP path based on the presumed (but incorrect) IP five-tuple. This in turn may lead to the selection of the wrong equal-cost-multi-path (ECMP) path for the packet, leading in turn to the misordering of payload Ethernet frames. Further discussion of this topic is published in IETF RFC 4928.

Frame misordering can also happen in a single path scenario when traffic classification and differential forwarding treatment mechanisms are in use. This occurs when a forwarder incorrectly assumes that the packet is IP and applies forwarding policy based on fields in the PW payload.

This problem has recently become more serious in operational networks for several reasons. The first is due to the more common deployment of equipment with Ethernet MAC addresses that start with 0x4 or 0x6 as assigned by the IEEE Registration Authority (RA). Secondly, concerns over privacy have led to the use of MAC address randomization which assigns local MAC addresses randomly for privacy. Random assignment produces addresses starting with one of the two values about 1/8 of the time.

The use of the Ethernet PW CW addresses this problem.

The IETF PALS Working Group has written a draft RFC that recommends the use of the Ethernet pseudowire Control Word in all but exceptional circumstances. This draft is close to completion in the PALS Working Group, and may be found online at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw . Organizations that write specifications that include the use of Ethernet PW technology are recommended to be familiar with this draft and take any actions with their respective specifications they think are needed to address the draft. 

We anticipate its publication as an IETF RFC in the coming months. Interested individuals are invited to provide comments to the PALS email list, pals@ietf.org .

Regards,
Andrew G. Malis and Stewart Bryant
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    Control Word for Ethernet Pseudowires
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2018-04-05-pals-itu-t-sg-15-ieee-802-1-broadband-forum-mef-ietf-pals-working-group-on-the-control-word-for-ethernet-pseudowires-attachment-1.pdf


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Hi Yuanlong

Thank you for your comments. Please see inline.


On 08/04/2018 12:35, Jiangyuanlong wrote:
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> Hi Andy,
>
> I have read the latest draft and support its publication.
>
> However, there are some minor editorial comments or suggestions you 
> may consider:
>
> 1.In the “Abstract” and “Introduction”, “RFC4448” should be replaced 
> with “RFC 4448” or "[RFC4448]";
>
Done

> 2.In the “Introduction”, replace “based of” with “based on”; replace 
> “deployment of equipment” with “deployment of equipments”; the first 
> ‘ECMP’ is not expanded while the 2^nd is fully expanded;
>
Done except equipment which after consulting a couple of dictionaries I 
will leave to the RFC Editor to decide.

> 3.In the “Introduction”, “about 1/8 of the time” may be replaced with 
> “about 1/8 in statistics”;
>
I have reworded to

"Random assignment results in addresses starting with one of these two 
values
one time in eight."

The only time when it is not exactly 1 in 8 is when the RNG is biased.

> 4.In Section 3 “Background”, “more complex, proprietary, methods” can 
> be replaced with “more complex and proprietary methods”;
>

I think the original is correct, but if I am wrong the RFC Editor will 
pick it up.

> 5.In Section 4 “Recommendation”, “a Ethernet PW” shall be “an Ethernet 
> PW”; remove one ‘both’ from “both both”;
>
Done

> 6.In Section 4 “Recommendation”, “if ELI/EL is used then it should be 
> used on every segment of the PW” where “should” can be capitalized, as 
> this is a recommendation IMO;
>
Done

> 7.In Section 5 “Equal Cost Multi-path (ECMP)”, insert “are” to “In 
> both cases there considerations” behind ‘there’;
>
Done

> 8.In Section 6 “Mitigations”, insert ')' after “[RFC3209]”;
>
Done

> 9.In Section 7 “Operational Considerations”, ‘emits’ should be ‘emit’;
>

I think "emits" is OK. The RFC Editor will catch it if I am wrong.

Thanks

Stewart

> Thanks,
>
> Yuanlong
>
> *From:*Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrew G. Malis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 4:24 PM
> *To:* pals@ietf.org
> *Cc:* matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)
> *Subject:* [Pals] WG last call for draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-04
>
> Having heard from the authors regarding IPR, it’s now time to start WG 
> last call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-04 .
>
> As a reminder, since our two WG co-chairs are also co-authors on this 
> draft, Matthew Bocci, former PWE3 co-chair, has kindly volunteered to 
> act as document shepherd for the draft, and will be in charge of 
> determining consensus on the document and also managing the last call 
> review process.
>
> As the IETF meeting is now in progress, this will be a three-week last 
> call, ending Wednesday April 11. Please send comments and reviews to 
> pals@ietf.org <mailto:pals@ietf.org> . Also, indications that the 
> draft has been read and is (or isn’t) ready for publication would also 
> be appreciated. If you feel that that draft isn’t yet ready for 
> publication, please include your reasons and suggested improvements.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/04/2018 12:35, Jiangyuanlong
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
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            publication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In the “Abstract” and “Introduction”, “RFC4448”
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    Done<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In the “Introduction”, replace “based of” with
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            “deployment of equipments”; the first ‘ECMP’ is not expanded
            while the 2<sup>nd</sup> is fully expanded;</span></p>
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    Done except equipment which after consulting a couple of
    dictionaries I will leave to the RFC Editor to decide.<br>
    <br>
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In the “Introduction”, “about 1/8 of the time”
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    I have reworded to<br>
    <br>
    "Random assignment results in addresses starting with one of these
    two values <br>
    one time in eight."<br>
    <br>
    The only time when it is not exactly 1 in 8 is when the RNG is
    biased.<br>
    <br>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In Section 3 “Background”, “more complex,
            proprietary, methods” can be replaced with “more complex and
            proprietary methods”;</span></p>
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    <br>
    I think the original is correct, but if I am wrong the RFC Editor
    will pick it up.<br>
    <br>
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In Section 4 “Recommendation”, “a Ethernet PW”
            shall be “an Ethernet PW”; remove one ‘both’ from “both
            both”;</span></p>
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    Done<br>
    <br>
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                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">      
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In Section 4 “Recommendation”, “if ELI/EL is
            used then it should be used on every segment of the PW”
            where “should” can be capitalized, as this is a
            recommendation IMO;</span></p>
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    Done<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68BBB6CB0EB@dggeml507-mbs.china.huawei.com">
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                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">      
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In Section 5 “Equal Cost Multi-path (ECMP)”,
            insert “are” to “In both cases there considerations” behind
            ‘there’;
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    Done<br>
    <br>
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cite="mid:3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68BBB6CB0EB@dggeml507-mbs.china.huawei.com">
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                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">      
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In Section 6 “Mitigations”, insert ')' after
            “[RFC3209]”;</span></p>
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    Done<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68BBB6CB0EB@dggeml507-mbs.china.huawei.com">
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
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                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">      
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">In Section 7 “Operational Considerations”,
            ‘emits’ should be ‘emit’;</span></p>
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    <br>
    I think "emits" is OK. The RFC Editor will catch it if I am wrong.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks<br>
    <br>
    Stewart<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68BBB6CB0EB@dggeml507-mbs.china.huawei.com">
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">Yuanlong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
              lang="EN-US"> Pals [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew G. Malis<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 21, 2018 4:24 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com">matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com</a>; BRUNGARD,
              DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Pals] WG last call for
              draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Having heard from
                the authors regarding IPR, it’s now time to start WG
                last call for <a
                  href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-04"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                    style="font-size:9.5pt">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-04</span></a></span><span
                style="font-size:9.5pt" lang="EN-US"> .</span><span
                lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"
                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"
                lang="EN-US">As a reminder, since our two WG co-chairs
                are also co-authors on this draft, Matthew Bocci, former
                PWE3 co-chair, has kindly volunteered to act as document
                shepherd for the draft, and will be in charge of
                determining consensus on the document and also managing
                the last call review process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Use of Ethernet Control Word RECOMMENDED
        Authors         : Stewart Bryant
                          Andrew G Malis
                          Ignas Bagdonas
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-05.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2018-04-16

Abstract:
   The pseudowire (PW) encapsulation of Ethernet, as defined in RFC
   4448, specifies that the use of the control word (CW) is optional.
   In the absence of the CW an Ethernet pseudowire packet can be
   misidentified as an IP packet by a label switching router (LSR).
   This in turn may lead to the selection of the wrong equal-cost-multi-
   path (ECMP) path for the packet, leading in turn to the misordering
   of packets.  This problem has become more serious due to the
   deployment of equipment with Ethernet MAC addresses that start with
   0x4 or 0x6.  The use of the Ethernet PW CW addresses this problem.
   This document recommends the use of the Ethernet pseudowire control
   word in all but exceptional circumstances.

   This document updates RFC 4448.


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This version addresses Yuanlong's comments as noted in my email earlier 
today.

I think that this is now ready to go to the IESG as soon as Matthew 
writes up his Shepherd's report.

- Stewart


On 16/04/2018 16:16, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services WG of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : Use of Ethernet Control Word RECOMMENDED
>          Authors         : Stewart Bryant
>                            Andrew G Malis
>                            Ignas Bagdonas
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-05.txt
> 	Pages           : 9
> 	Date            : 2018-04-16
>
> Abstract:
>     The pseudowire (PW) encapsulation of Ethernet, as defined in RFC
>     4448, specifies that the use of the control word (CW) is optional.
>     In the absence of the CW an Ethernet pseudowire packet can be
>     misidentified as an IP packet by a label switching router (LSR).
>     This in turn may lead to the selection of the wrong equal-cost-multi-
>     path (ECMP) path for the packet, leading in turn to the misordering
>     of packets.  This problem has become more serious due to the
>     deployment of equipment with Ethernet MAC addresses that start with
>     0x4 or 0x6.  The use of the Ethernet PW CW addresses this problem.
>     This document recommends the use of the Ethernet pseudowire control
>     word in all but exceptional circumstances.
>
>     This document updates RFC 4448.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-05
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-05
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw-05
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
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> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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