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Happy New Year to all.

I'd like to ask for comments again for the open issues on Draft 07. Thanks.

-vince


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I believe the open issues for which there is support for change are:
>
>  1. Remove TBDs, except for the mailing-list name for PAWS IANA reviews
>
>    - Ruleset name for ETSI draft, e.g., "ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft"
>    - Hyperlink to the ETSI draft
>
>  2. vCard
>    - Move regulatory requirements to the Ruleset sections, such as which
> fields
>      are required.
>    - "fn" should be "formatted name", not "full name"
>    - Add an example for representing an organization
>
>  3. Shortened names
>    - If accepted, would shorten just the names of the fields in the
> inner-most loop of the
>      spectrum response:
>
>      freqHz -> hz
>      powerDbmPerBw -> dbm
>
>      It does not seem that other fields appear often enough to have
> significant impact
>
> Should I go ahead and make these changes and try last-call again?
>
> --
> -vince
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Happy New Year to all.<div><br></div><div>I&#39;d like to =
ask for comments again for the open issues on Draft 07. Thanks.</div><div><=
br></div><div>-vince</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Vincent Chen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">All,<div><br></div><div>I believe the open issues for whic=
h there is support for change are:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A01. Remove=
 TBDs, except for the mailing-list name for PAWS IANA reviews</div><div><br=
></div>

<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Ruleset name for ETSI draft, e.g., &quot;ETSI-EN-301-59=
8-1.0.0-draft&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Hyperlink to the ETSI draft</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>=C2=A02. vCard</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Move regulat=
ory requirements to the Ruleset sections, such as which fields</div>

<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0are required.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- &quot;fn&qu=
ot; should be &quot;formatted name&quot;, not &quot;full name&quot;</div><d=
iv>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Add an example for representing an organization</div><div=
><br></div><div>=C2=A03. Shortened names</div>

<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- If accepted, would shorten just the names of the fields=
 in the inner-most loop of the</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0spectrum respo=
nse:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freqHz -&gt; hz</div><div=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0powerDbmPerBw -&gt; dbm</div>
<div>
<br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It does not seem that other fields appea=
r often enough to have significant impact</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br=
 clear=3D"all"><div>Should I go ahead and make these changes and try last-c=
all again?</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div>
<br></div>
-- <br>-vince
</font></span></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>-vince
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An IPR statement we submitted a long time ago was just posted. There was so=
me issue at IETF that held it up.  It is not a new statement, just a formal=
 posting of something we submitted some time ago. Hopefully no one will be =
surprised or invest too much time into it.
Happy to answer questions, if anyone has any.
Peter S

From: Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com<mailto:vchen@google.com>>
Date: Monday, January 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM
To: "paws@ietf.org<mailto:paws@ietf.org>" <paws@ietf.org<mailto:paws@ietf.o=
rg>>
Subject: Re: [paws] Summary: Comments on draft-07

Happy New Year to all.

I'd like to ask for comments again for the open issues on Draft 07. Thanks.

-vince


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com<mailto:vche=
n@google.com>> wrote:
All,

I believe the open issues for which there is support for change are:

 1. Remove TBDs, except for the mailing-list name for PAWS IANA reviews

   - Ruleset name for ETSI draft, e.g., "ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft"
   - Hyperlink to the ETSI draft

 2. vCard
   - Move regulatory requirements to the Ruleset sections, such as which fi=
elds
     are required.
   - "fn" should be "formatted name", not "full name"
   - Add an example for representing an organization

 3. Shortened names
   - If accepted, would shorten just the names of the fields in the inner-m=
ost loop of the
     spectrum response:

     freqHz -> hz
     powerDbmPerBw -> dbm

     It does not seem that other fields appear often enough to have signifi=
cant impact

Should I go ahead and make these changes and try last-call again?

--
-vince



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-vince

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ze: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>An IPR statement we submi=
tted a long time ago was just posted. There was some issue at IETF that hel=
d it up. &nbsp;It is not a new statement, just a formal posting of somethin=
g we submitted some time ago. Hopefully no one will be surprised or invest =
too much time into it.</div><div>Happy to answer questions, if anyone has a=
ny.</div><div>Peter S</div><div><br></div><span id=3D"OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"=
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en@google.com</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Mon=
day, January 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </=
span> "<a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org">paws@ietf.org</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:paws@ietf.org">paws@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bo=
ld">Subject: </span> Re: [paws] Summary: Comments on draft-07<br></div><div=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Happy New Year to all.<div><br></div><div>I'd l=
ike to ask for comments again for the open issues on Draft 07. Thanks.</div=
><div><br></div><div>-vince</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Vincent Chen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">All,<div><br>=
</div><div>I believe the open issues for which there is support for change =
are:</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;1. Remove TBDs, except for the mailing-=
list name for PAWS IANA reviews</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;- Rul=
eset name for ETSI draft, e.g., "ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft"</div><div>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;- Hyperlink to the ETSI draft</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;2. v=
Card</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;- Move regulatory requirements to the Ruleset s=
ections, such as which fields</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;are required.</=
div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;- "fn" should be "formatted name", not "full name"</d=
iv><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;- Add an example for representing an organization</div=
><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;3. Shortened names</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;- If a=
ccepted, would shorten just the names of the fields in the inner-most loop =
of the</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;spectrum response:</div><div><br></div=
><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;freqHz -&gt; hz</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;pow=
erDbmPerBw -&gt; dbm</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;It does n=
ot seem that other fields appear often enough to have significant impact</d=
iv><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"all"><div>Should I go ahead and ma=
ke these changes and try last-call again?</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font=
 color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div>
-- <br>-vince
</font></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br=
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Hi all,
A new version of draft on PAWS database discovery has been submitted. I hav=
e revised the draft according to the discussion of last IETF meeting.
This new draft mainly focuses on the discussion of business models of datab=
ase discovery, and several independent solutions are discussed here,
I think it's better for us to reach some kind of consensus before we go fur=
ther for deep detailed mechanisms.

I hope we can promote database discovery mechanism together, and your comme=
nts will be very important for us to go in the right direction.
PS: If you would like to contribute more to database discovery, you can con=
tact me, and we can do the work together.

Best Regards,
Xinpeng

Name:               draft-wei-paws-database-discovery
Revision:  03
Title:                  PAWS Database Discovery
Document date:       2014-01-09
Group:               Individual Submission
Pages:               12
URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wei-paws-database=
-discovery-03.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wei-paws-database-di=
scovery/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wei-paws-database-discover=
y-03
Diff:           http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-wei-paws-database-=
discovery-03

Abstract:
   This document provides a Database Discovery mechanism for PAWS.  By
   this mechanism the master device gets the available WSDBs it can
   communicate.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">A new version of draft on PAWS =
database discovery has been submitted. I have revised the draft according t=
o the discussion of last IETF meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This new draft mainly focuses o=
n the discussion of business models of database discovery, and several inde=
pendent solutions are discussed here,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I think it&#8217;s better for u=
s to reach some kind of consensus before we go further for deep detailed me=
chanisms.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I hope we can promote database =
discovery mechanism together, and your comments will be very important for =
us to go in the right direction. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">PS: If you would like to contri=
bute more to database discovery, you can contact me, and we can do the work=
 together.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Xinpeng<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Name:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-wei-paws-d=
atabase-discovery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Revision:&nbsp; 03<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Title:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; PAWS Database Discovery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Document date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2014-01-09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Group:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Individual Subm=
ission<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Pages:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 12<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">URL:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/inte=
rnet-drafts/draft-wei-paws-database-discovery-03.txt">
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wei-paws-database-discovery-03.tx=
t</a> <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Status:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-=
wei-paws-database-discovery/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wei-paws-database-discovery/</a> <o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Htmlized:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wei-paws-databas=
e-discovery-03">
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wei-paws-database-discovery-03</a> <o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Diff:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u=
rl2=3Ddraft-wei-paws-database-discovery-03">
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-wei-paws-database-discovery-03</a>=
 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; This document prov=
ides a Database Discovery mechanism for PAWS.&nbsp; By<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; this mechanism the=
 master device gets the available WSDBs it can<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; communicate.<o:p><=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Working Gr=
oup of the IETF.

        Title           : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases
        Authors         : Vincent Chen
                          Subir Das
                          Lei Zhu
                          John Malyar
                          Peter J. McCann
	Filename        : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
	Pages           : 104
	Date            : 2014-01-14

Abstract:
   Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are
   available for non-interfering use.  This available spectrum is called
   "White Space."  Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum
   "unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to
   provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall
   spectrum utilization.

   One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report
   spectrum availability to devices.  To achieve interoperability among
   multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be
   defined and implemented.  This document defines such a protocol, the
   "Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".


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Gabor, All,

I've uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed changes:

  o  Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft
  o  Change TBD email address to paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org for proposing
       changes to the PAWS IANA registries
  o  Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regulatory-specific
sections
  o  Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but
set "kind" to "org".
  o  Shorten parameter names:
       *  freqHz -> hz
       *  powerDbmPerBw -> dbm

Diff:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&url2=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08


-vince


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Working
> Group of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases
>         Authors         : Vincent Chen
>                           Subir Das
>                           Lei Zhu
>                           John Malyar
>                           Peter J. McCann
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
>         Pages           : 104
>         Date            : 2014-01-14
>
> Abstract:
>    Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are
>    available for non-interfering use.  This available spectrum is called
>    "White Space."  Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum
>    "unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to
>    provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall
>    spectrum utilization.
>
>    One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report
>    spectrum availability to devices.  To achieve interoperability among
>    multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be
>    defined and implemented.  This document defines such a protocol, the
>    "Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Gabor, All,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve uploaded a new ver=
sion of the draft incorporating the proposed changes:</div><div><br></div><=
div><div>=C2=A0 o =C2=A0Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1=
.0.0-draft<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span></div>
<div>=C2=A0 o =C2=A0Change TBD email address to <a href=3D"mailto:paws-iana=
-TBD@ietf.org">paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org</a> for proposing<span class=3D"" sty=
le=3D"white-space:pre">	</span></div><div>=C2=A0<span class=3D"" style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre">	</span> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0changes to the PAWS IANA regis=
tries<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span></div>
<div>=C2=A0 o =C2=A0Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regula=
tory-specific sections<span class=3D"" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span></=
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uot;fn&quot; property,=C2=A0but set &quot;kind&quot; to &quot;org&quot;.<sp=
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=A0* =C2=A0powerDbmPerBw -&gt; dbm</div><div><br></div><div>Diff:=C2=A0<a h=
ref=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;u=
rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft=
-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a></div>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-vince</div></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 =
AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" targ=
et=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
=C2=A0This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Worki=
ng Group of the IETF.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Prot=
ocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Vincent C=
hen<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Subir Das<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lei Zhu<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 John Malyar<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Peter J. McCann<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: draft-iet=
f-paws-protocol-08.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 104<=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 2014-01-14<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees=
 are<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0available for non-interfering use. =C2=A0This available spectr=
um is called<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;White Space.&quot; =C2=A0Allowing secondary users access=
 to available spectrum<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;unlocks&quot; existing spectrum to maximize its utilizat=
ion and to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater ove=
rall<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0spectrum utilization.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to repo=
rt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0spectrum availability to devices. =C2=A0To achieve interoperab=
ility among<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must b=
e<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0defined and implemented. =C2=A0This document defines such a pr=
otocol, the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases&quot;.<b=
r>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/</a=
><br>
<br>
There&#39;s also a htmlized version available at:<br>
<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=
=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a><br>
<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protoc=
ol-08</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio=
n<br>
until the htmlized version and diff are available at <a href=3D"http://tool=
s.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br>
<a href=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp=
.ietf.org/internet-drafts/</a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
paws mailing list<br>
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tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>-vince
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Don,

Thanks for the careful read!

Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?

-vince


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn <d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com>w=
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> The new version looks good to me.
> Please find feedback attached, just some minor nits.
>
> Regards,
> Don
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com [Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com]
> Received: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm
> To: vchen@google.com [vchen@google.com]; paws@ietf.org [paws@ietf.org]
> Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
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> Good, thanks Vince.
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> This draft incorporates the agreeable comments received during the second
> wglc.
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> I=E2=80=99d like to ask people on the list to please review the set of ch=
anges the
> editor implemented and let the list know if you have any comments.
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> If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and it
> is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so if
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> comments to the draft then please send those to the list during this week=
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> Gabor
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> From: paws [mailto:paws-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of ext Vincent Chen
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM
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> To: paws@ietf.org
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> Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
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> Gabor, All,
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> I've uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed
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> o Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft
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> o Change TBD email address to
> paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org for proposing
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>
> changes to the PAWS IANA registries
>
>
>
>
> o Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regulatory-specific
> sections
>
>
>
>
>
> o Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but set
> "kind" to "org".
>
>
>
>
>
> o Shorten parameter names:
>
>
>
>
> * freqHz -> hz
>
>
>
>
> * powerDbmPerBw -> dbm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Diff:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&url2=3Ddra=
ft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -vince
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>
> This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Working
> Group of the IETF.
>
>
>
> Title : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases
>
> Authors : Vincent Chen
>
> Subir Das
>
> Lei Zhu
>
> John Malyar
>
> Peter J. McCann
>
> Filename : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
>
> Pages : 104
>
> Date : 2014-01-14
>
>
>
> Abstract:
>
> Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are
>
> available for non-interfering use. This available spectrum is called
>
> "White Space." Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum
>
> "unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to
>
> provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall
>
> spectrum utilization.
>
>
>
> One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report
>
> spectrum availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among
>
> multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be
>
> defined and implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the
>
> "Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".
>
>
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/
>
>
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>
>
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>
>
>
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
>
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at
> tools.ietf.org.
>
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> paws mailing list
>
> paws@ietf.org
>
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
> --
>
> -vince
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Don,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the careful read!</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>-vince</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br=
>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com" target=3D=
"_blank">d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif=
">The new version looks good to me.<br>Please find feedback attached, just =
some minor nits.<br><br>Regards,<br>Don<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">Gabor.Bajk=
o@nokia.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</a>]<br>Received: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm<br>To=
: <a href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com</a=
> [<a href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com</=
a>]; <a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws@ietf.org</a> [=
<a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws@ietf.org</a>]<br>
Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<br><br>Good=
, thanks Vince.<br><br>This draft incorporates the agreeable comments recei=
ved during the second wglc.<br><br>I=E2=80=99d like to ask people on the li=
st to please review the set of changes the editor implemented and let the l=
ist know if you have any comments.<br>
<br>If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and i=
t is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so if =
you have<br> comments to the draft then please send those to the list durin=
g this week.<br>
<br> <br><br>Gabor<br><br> <br><br>From: paws [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:paw=
s-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<br>On Beha=
lf Of ext Vincent Chen<br><br>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM<br><b=
r>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws@ietf.org</a><br=
><br>Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<br><br=
> <br><br><br><br>Gabor, All,<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br>I&#39;ve =
uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed changes:<br>
<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>  o  Propose ruleset ID name f=
or ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft        <br><br><br><br><br><br>  o  Ch=
ange TBD email address to <br><a href=3D"mailto:paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org</a> for proposing  <br>
<br><br><br><br>                 changes to the PAWS IANA registries    <br=
><br><br><br><br>  o  Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regu=
latory-specific sections <br><br><br><br><br><br>  o  Fixed vCard examples =
for organization names: Use &quot;fn&quot; property, but set &quot;kind&quo=
t; to &quot;org&quot;.       <br>
<br><br><br><br><br>  o  Shorten parameter names: <br><br><br><br><br>     =
            *  freqHz -&gt; hz      <br><br><br><br><br>                 * =
 powerDbmPerBw -&gt; dbm<br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br>Diff: <a h=
ref=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;u=
rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/rf=
cdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protoco=
l-08</a><br>
<br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br>-vince<br><br=
><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br>On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@i=
etf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br><br><br>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Dra=
fts directories.<br><br> This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Acces=
s WS database Working Group of the IETF.<br><br><br><br>        Title      =
     : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases<br>
<br>        Authors         : Vincent Chen<br><br>                         =
 Subir Das<br><br>                          Lei Zhu<br><br>                =
          John Malyar<br><br>                          Peter J. McCann<br>
<br>        Filename        : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<br><br>      =
  Pages           : 104<br><br>        Date            : 2014-01-14<br><br>=
<br><br>Abstract:<br><br>   Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocat=
ed to licensees are<br>
<br>   available for non-interfering use.  This available spectrum is calle=
d<br><br>   &quot;White Space.&quot;  Allowing secondary users access to av=
ailable spectrum<br><br>   &quot;unlocks&quot; existing spectrum to maximiz=
e its utilization and to<br>
<br>   provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall<b=
r><br>   spectrum utilization.<br><br><br><br>   One approach to manage spe=
ctrum sharing uses databases to report<br><br>   spectrum availability to d=
evices.  To achieve interoperability among<br>
<br>   multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be<br><=
br>   defined and implemented.  This document defines such a protocol, the<=
br><br>   &quot;Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases&quot;.<br>
<br><br><br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>=
<br><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol=
/</a><br>
<br><br><br>There&#39;s also a htmlized version available at:<br><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a><br><br><br><=
br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br><br><a href=3D"http://=
www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a><br><br><=
br><br>
<br><br>Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of s=
ubmission<br><br>until the htmlized version and diff are available at <br><=
a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br><=
br>
<br><br>Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br><br><a h=
ref=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp.iet=
f.org/internet-drafts/</a><br><br><br><br>_________________________________=
______________<br>
<br>paws mailing list<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">paws@ietf.org</a><br><br><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listi=
nfo/paws" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws</a><=
br><br>
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/div></div>Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (<a href=3D"http://ww=
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Hi Vince, Don and the team,
 
I went through the latest draft it looks good however, I propose the
following two issues to be considered:
 
Section 5.4: Device Capability
I suggest that the device transmitting power should be added as an
option device capability parameter. For example, if a device
specifically inform the database about its transmitting power capability
during the avail_spectrum_req then the database should only return a
list of  available spectrum with powers relevant to that specific
request.
 
Section 6.8.9: Spectrum
I suggest in here we need a straightened-out example of how spectrum
and its resolutions are specified in the FCC case. The provided example
is either not clear enough or somehow something is missing specifically
for the FCC case. Please see the following excerpt from the current
provide example:
 
For example, In US, FCC requires only one spectrum specification at
6MHz bandwidth; ETSI requires two (at 0.1MHz and 8MHz).",
 
Kind Regards,
Luzango.


>>> Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com> 17/01/2014 05:22 >>>
Don,

Thanks for the careful read!

Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?

-vince


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn
<d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com> wrote:


The new version looks good to me.
Please find feedback attached, just some minor nits.

Regards,
Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com [Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com]
Received: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm
To: vchen@google.com [vchen@google.com]; paws@ietf.org [paws@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt

Good, thanks Vince.

This draft incorporates the agreeable comments received during the
second wglc.

I’d like to ask people on the list to please review the set of changes
the editor implemented and let the list know if you have any comments.

If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and
it is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so
if you have
comments to the draft then please send those to the list during this
week.



Gabor



From: paws [mailto:paws-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of ext Vincent Chen

Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM

To: paws@ietf.org

Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt





Gabor, All,








I've uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed
changes:











o Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft 





o Change TBD email address to 
paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org for proposing 




changes to the PAWS IANA registries 




o Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regulatory-specific
sections 





o Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but
set "kind" to "org". 





o Shorten parameter names: 




* freqHz -> hz 




* powerDbmPerBw -> dbm









Diff:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&url2=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08















-vince









On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:



A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.

This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Working
Group of the IETF.



Title : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases

Authors : Vincent Chen

Subir Das

Lei Zhu

John Malyar

Peter J. McCann

Filename : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt

Pages : 104

Date : 2014-01-14



Abstract:

Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are

available for non-interfering use. This available spectrum is called

"White Space." Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum

"unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to

provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall

spectrum utilization.



One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report

spectrum availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among

multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be

defined and implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the

"Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".





The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/



There's also a htmlized version available at:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08



A diff from the previous version is available at:

http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08





Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
submission

until the htmlized version and diff are available at 
tools.ietf.org.



Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:

ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/



_______________________________________________

paws mailing list

paws@ietf.org

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws













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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Hi Vince, Don and the team,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>I suggest that the device transmitting power sho=
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Section 6.8.9: Spectrum</FONT></STRONG><=
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>I&nbsp;suggest in&nbsp;here we need a straighten=
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>For example, <STRONG><U>In US, FCC requires only=
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Kind Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Luzango.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Vincent Chen &lt;vchen@google.com&gt; 17/01/2014 =
05:22 &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Don,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for the careful read!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>-vince</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn <SPAN=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 1=
1pt">The new version looks good to me.<BR>Please find feedback attached, ju=
st some minor nits.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Don
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href=3D"mail=
to:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" target=3D_blank>Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</A> [<A hre=
f=3D"mailto:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" target=3D_blank>Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</A=
>]<BR>Received: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm<BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:vchen=
@google.com" target=3D_blank>vchen@google.com</A> [<A href=3D"mailto:vchen@=
google.com" target=3D_blank>vchen@google.com</A>]; <A href=3D"mailto:paws@i=
etf.org" target=3D_blank>paws@ietf.org</A> [<A href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org=
" target=3D_blank>paws@ietf.org</A>]<BR>Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<BR><BR>Good, thanks Vince.<BR><BR>This draft i=
ncorporates the agreeable comments received during the second wglc.<BR><BR>=
I=E2=80=99d like to ask people on the list to please review the set of chan=
ges the editor implemented and let the list know if you have any comments.<=
BR><BR>If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document an=
d it is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so =
if you have<BR>comments to the draft then please send those to the list dur=
ing this week.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Gabor<BR><BR><BR><BR>From: paws [mailto:<A hr=
ef=3D"mailto:paws-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>paws-bounces@ietf.org</=
A>]<BR>On Behalf Of ext Vincent Chen<BR><BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014=
 9:52 AM<BR><BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>paws@i=
etf.org</A><BR><BR>Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol=
-08.txt<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gabor, All,<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><=
BR>I've uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed chan=
ges:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Propose ruleset ID na=
me for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Change T=
BD email address to <BR><A href=3D"mailto:paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org" target=3D=
_blank>paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org</A> for proposing <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>changes=
 to the PAWS IANA registries <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Moved discussion of requ=
ired vCard properties to regulatory-specific sections <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><=
BR>o Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but se=
t "kind" to "org". <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Shorten parameter names: <BR><=
BR><BR><BR><BR>* freqHz -&gt; hz <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>* powerDbmPerBw -&gt; =
dbm<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Diff: <A href=3D"http://www.ietf=
.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-=
protocol-08" target=3D_blank>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-=
paws-protocol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>=
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-vince<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><=
BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:i=
nternet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>internet-drafts@ietf.org</A>&gt; w=
rote:<BR><BR><BR><BR>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Int=
ernet-Drafts directories.<BR><BR>This draft is a work item of the Protocol =
to Access WS database Working Group of the IETF.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Title : Pro=
tocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases<BR><BR>Authors : Vincent Chen<=
BR><BR>Subir Das<BR><BR>Lei Zhu<BR><BR>John Malyar<BR><BR>Peter J. McCann<B=
R><BR>Filename : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<BR><BR>Pages : 104<BR><BR>=
Date : 2014-01-14<BR><BR><BR><BR>Abstract:<BR><BR>Portions of the radio spe=
ctrum that are allocated to licensees are<BR><BR>available for non-interfer=
ing use. This available spectrum is called<BR><BR>"White Space." Allowing s=
econdary users access to available spectrum<BR><BR>"unlocks" existing spect=
rum to maximize its utilization and to<BR><BR>provide opportunities for inn=
ovation, resulting in greater overall<BR><BR>spectrum utilization.<BR><BR><=
BR><BR>One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report<BR>=
<BR>spectrum availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among<BR>=
<BR>multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be<BR><BR>=
defined and implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the<BR><BR>=
"Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>T=
he IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<BR><BR><A href=3D"https:=
//datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/" target=3D_blank>https=
://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>Th=
ere's also a htmlized version available at:<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://tools.=
ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D_blank>http://tools.iet=
f.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>A diff from the p=
revious version is available at:<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcd=
iff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D_blank>http://www.ietf.org=
/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Plea=
se note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission<BR=
><BR>until the htmlized version and diff are available at <BR><A href=3D"ht=
tp://tools.ietf.org" target=3D_blank>tools.ietf.org</A>.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Int=
ernet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<BR><BR><A href=3D"ftp:=
//ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" target=3D_blank>ftp://ftp.ietf.org/interne=
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listinfo/paws" target=3D_blank>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws</=
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Hi Luzango,

Thanks for the suggestions. Please find answers inline.


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Luzango Mfupe <LMfupe@csir.co.za> wrote:

>  Hi Vince, Don and the team,
>
> I went through the latest draft it looks good however, I propose the
> following two issues to be considered:
>
> *Section 5.4: Device Capability*
> I suggest that the device transmitting power should be added as an option
> device capability parameter. For example, if a device specifically inform
> the database about its transmitting power capability during the
> avail_spectrum_req then the database should only return a list of
>  available spectrum with powers relevant to that specific request.
>

I think this has been suggested before.
Currently, power capabilities are captured via device certification (e.g.,
"device type" in the US, combinations of "device type", "emissions class",
"technology ID" for ETSI),
so the available spectrum response must rely on those regulatory-specific
attributes, rather than a separate power-level field.

The PAWS specification does allow additional fields to be added later, so
this might be a case of waiting for an actual use case.


>
> *Section 6.8.9: Spectrum*
> I suggest in here we need a straightened-out example of how spectrum and
> its resolutions are specified in the FCC case. The provided example is
> either not clear enough or somehow something is missing specifically for
> the FCC case. Please see the following excerpt from the current provide
> example:
>
> For example, *In US, FCC requires only one spectrum specification at 6MHz
> bandwidth;* ETSI requires two (at 0.1MHz and 8MHz).",
>

That sounds like a good idea. I'll add an example along with more
explanation for the examples.
(See also example in Section 6.4.2)

>
> Kind Regards,
> Luzango.
>
>
> >>> Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com> 17/01/2014 05:22 >>>
> Don,
>
> Thanks for the careful read!
>
> Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?
>
> -vince
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn <d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com=
>wrote:
>
>> The new version looks good to me.
>> Please find feedback attached, just some minor nits.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Don
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com [Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com]
>> Received: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm
>> To: vchen@google.com [vchen@google.com]; paws@ietf.org [paws@ietf.org]
>> Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
>>
>> Good, thanks Vince.
>>
>> This draft incorporates the agreeable comments received during the secon=
d
>> wglc.
>>
>> I=E2=80=99d like to ask people on the list to please review the set of c=
hanges
>> the editor implemented and let the list know if you have any comments.
>>
>> If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and it
>> is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so if
>> you have
>> comments to the draft then please send those to the list during this wee=
k.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gabor
>>
>>
>>
>> From: paws [mailto:paws-bounces@ietf.org]
>> On Behalf Of ext Vincent Chen
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM
>>
>> To: paws@ietf.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gabor, All,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed
>> changes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> o Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> o Change TBD email address to
>> paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org for proposing
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> changes to the PAWS IANA registries
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> o Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regulatory-specific
>> sections
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> o Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but se=
t
>> "kind" to "org".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> o Shorten parameter names:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * freqHz -> hz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * powerDbmPerBw -> dbm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Diff:
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&url2=3Ddr=
aft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -vince
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>> This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Working
>> Group of the IETF.
>>
>>
>>
>> Title : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases
>>
>> Authors : Vincent Chen
>>
>> Subir Das
>>
>> Lei Zhu
>>
>> John Malyar
>>
>> Peter J. McCann
>>
>> Filename : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt
>>
>> Pages : 104
>>
>> Date : 2014-01-14
>>
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>
>> Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are
>>
>> available for non-interfering use. This available spectrum is called
>>
>> "White Space." Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum
>>
>> "unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to
>>
>> provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall
>>
>> spectrum utilization.
>>
>>
>>
>> One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report
>>
>> spectrum availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among
>>
>> multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be
>>
>> defined and implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the
>>
>> "Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/
>>
>>
>>
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>>
>>
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission
>>
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at
>> tools.ietf.org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -vince
>>
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>>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Luzango,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the suggestions.=
 Please find answers inline.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Luzango Mfupe <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:LMfupe@csir.co.za" target=3D"_blank">LMfup=
e@csir.co.za</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div style=3D"MARGIN:4px 4px 1px;FONT:10pt Segoe UI">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">Hi Vince, Don and the team,</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">I went through the latest draft it=C2=A0looks =
good however,=C2=A0I propose the following two issues to be considered:</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><strong><font color=3D"#0000ff">Section 5.4: Device Capability</font><=
/strong></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">I suggest that the device transmitting power s=
hould be added as an option device capability parameter. For example, if a =
device specifically inform the database about its transmitting power capabi=
lity during the avail_spectrum_req then the database should only return=C2=
=A0a list of =C2=A0available spectrum with powers relevant to that specific=
 request.=C2=A0</font></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think this has been suggested befo=
re.</div><div>Currently, power capabilities are captured via device certifi=
cation (e.g., &quot;device type&quot; in the US, combinations of &quot;devi=
ce type&quot;, &quot;emissions class&quot;, &quot;technology ID&quot; for E=
TSI),</div>
<div>so the available spectrum response must rely on those regulatory-speci=
fic attributes, rather than a separate power-level field.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>The PAWS specification does allow additional fields to be added lat=
er, so this might be a case of waiting for an actual use case.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"MARGIN:4px 4p=
x 1px;FONT:10pt Segoe UI">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><strong><font color=3D"#0000ff">Section 6.8.9: Spectrum</font></strong=
></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">I=C2=A0suggest in=C2=A0here we need a straight=
ened-out example of how spectrum and its resolutions are=C2=A0specified in =
the FCC case. The provided example=C2=A0is either not clear enough or someh=
ow something is missing specifically for the FCC case. Please see the follo=
wing excerpt from the current provide example:</font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">For example, <strong><u>In US, FCC requires on=
ly one spectrum specification at 6MHz bandwidth;</u></strong> ETSI requires=
 two (at 0.1MHz and 8MHz).&quot;,</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>
</div><div>That sounds like a good idea. I&#39;ll add an example along with=
 more explanation for the examples.</div><div>(See also example in Section =
6.4.2)</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"MARGIN:4px 4px 1px;FONT:10pt Segoe UI">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">Kind Regards,</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">Luzango.</font></div>
<div><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Vincent Chen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com</a>&gt; 17/01/2014 05:22 &gt;&gt;&gt=
;<br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Don,
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks for the careful read!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-vince</div></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com" target=3D=
"_blank">d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:11pt=
">The new version looks good to me.<br>Please find feedback attached, just =
some minor nits.<br><br>Regards,<br>Don
<div>
<div><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:Gabor.Ba=
jko@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</a> [<a href=3D"mail=
to:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</a>]<br>R=
eceived: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com<=
/a> [<a href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com" target=3D"_blank">vchen@google.com=
</a>]; <a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws@ietf.org</a>=
 [<a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws@ietf.org</a>]<br>
Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<br><br>Good=
, thanks Vince.<br><br>This draft incorporates the agreeable comments recei=
ved during the second wglc.<br><br>I=E2=80=99d like to ask people on the li=
st to please review the set of changes the editor implemented and let the l=
ist know if you have any comments.<br>
<br>If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and i=
t is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so if =
you have<br>comments to the draft then please send those to the list during=
 this week.<br>
<br><br><br>Gabor<br><br><br><br>From: paws [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:paws-=
bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<br>On Behalf=
 Of ext Vincent Chen<br><br>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM<br><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">paws@ietf.org</a><br=
><br>Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<br><br=
><br><br><br><br>Gabor, All,<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I&#39;ve up=
loaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed changes:<br>
<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>o Propose ruleset ID name for E=
TSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft <br><br><br><br><br><br>o Change TBD email=
 address to <br><a href=3D"mailto:paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org</a> for proposing <br>
<br><br><br><br>changes to the PAWS IANA registries <br><br><br><br><br>o M=
oved discussion of required vCard properties to regulatory-specific section=
s <br><br><br><br><br><br>o Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Us=
e &quot;fn&quot; property, but set &quot;kind&quot; to &quot;org&quot;. <br=
>
<br><br><br><br><br>o Shorten parameter names: <br><br><br><br><br>* freqHz=
 -&gt; hz <br><br><br><br><br>* powerDbmPerBw -&gt; dbm<br><br><br><br><br>=
<br><br><br><br><br>Diff: <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddra=
ft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;=
url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a><br>
<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>-vince<br><br><=
br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@ietf=
.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br><br><br>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Dra=
fts directories.<br><br>This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access=
 WS database Working Group of the IETF.<br><br><br><br>Title : Protocol to =
Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases<br>
<br>Authors : Vincent Chen<br><br>Subir Das<br><br>Lei Zhu<br><br>John Maly=
ar<br><br>Peter J. McCann<br><br>Filename : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt=
<br><br>Pages : 104<br><br>Date : 2014-01-14<br><br><br><br>Abstract:<br>
<br>Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are<br><=
br>available for non-interfering use. This available spectrum is called<br>=
<br>&quot;White Space.&quot; Allowing secondary users access to available s=
pectrum<br>
<br>&quot;unlocks&quot; existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and t=
o<br><br>provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall=
<br><br>spectrum utilization.<br><br><br><br>One approach to manage spectru=
m sharing uses databases to report<br>
<br>spectrum availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among<br>=
<br>multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be<br><br>=
defined and implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the<br>
<br>&quot;Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases&quot;.<br><br><br=
><br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br><br><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/</a><=
br>
<br><br><br>There&#39;s also a htmlized version available at:<br><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a><br><br><br><=
br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br><br><a href=3D"http://=
www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</a><br><br><=
br><br>
<br><br>Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of s=
ubmission<br><br>until the htmlized version and diff are available at <br><=
a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br><=
br>
<br><br>Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br><br><a h=
ref=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp.iet=
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<br>paws mailing list<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D"_bl=
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nfo/paws" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws</a><=
br><br>
<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>-- <br><br>-vince<br><br></=
div></div>Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (<a href=3D"http://www=
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Hi Vince,
 
Okay great, I agree, examples in Sections 6.4.2, 6.5.2, 6.6.1 and 6.8.9
needs more explanation.
 
Regards,
Luzango.

>>> Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com> 29/01/2014 23:00 >>>
Hi Luzango,

Thanks for the suggestions. Please find answers inline.


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Luzango Mfupe <LMfupe@csir.co.za>
wrote:


Hi Vince, Don and the team,

I went through the latest draft it looks good however, I propose the
following two issues to be considered:

Section 5.4: Device Capability
I suggest that the device transmitting power should be added as an
option device capability parameter. For example, if a device
specifically inform the database about its transmitting power capability
during the avail_spectrum_req then the database should only return a
list of available spectrum with powers relevant to that specific
request. 


I think this has been suggested before.
Currently, power capabilities are captured via device certification
(e.g., "device type" in the US, combinations of "device type",
"emissions class", "technology ID" for ETSI),
so the available spectrum response must rely on those
regulatory-specific attributes, rather than a separate power-level
field.

The PAWS specification does allow additional fields to be added later,
so this might be a case of waiting for an actual use case.



Section 6.8.9: Spectrum
I suggest in here we need a straightened-out example of how spectrum
and its resolutions are specified in the FCC case. The provided example
is either not clear enough or somehow something is missing specifically
for the FCC case. Please see the following excerpt from the current
provide example:

For example, In US, FCC requires only one spectrum specification at
6MHz bandwidth; ETSI requires two (at 0.1MHz and 8MHz).",


That sounds like a good idea. I'll add an example along with more
explanation for the examples.
(See also example in Section 6.4.2)



Kind Regards,
Luzango.


>>> Vincent Chen <vchen@google.com> 17/01/2014 05:22 >>>
Don, 

Thanks for the careful read!

Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?

-vince


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn
<d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com> wrote:


The new version looks good to me.
Please find feedback attached, just some minor nits.

Regards,
Don 


-----Original Message-----
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Received: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm
To: vchen@google.com [vchen@google.com]; paws@ietf.org [paws@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt

Good, thanks Vince.

This draft incorporates the agreeable comments received during the
second wglc.

I’d like to ask people on the list to please review the set of changes
the editor implemented and let the list know if you have any comments.

If no comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and
it is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so
if you have
comments to the draft then please send those to the list during this
week.



Gabor



From: paws [mailto:paws-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of ext Vincent Chen

Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM

To: paws@ietf.org

Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt





Gabor, All,








I've uploaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed
changes:











o Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft 





o Change TBD email address to 
paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org for proposing 




changes to the PAWS IANA registries 




o Moved discussion of required vCard properties to regulatory-specific
sections 





o Fixed vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but
set "kind" to "org". 





o Shorten parameter names: 




* freqHz -> hz 




* powerDbmPerBw -> dbm









Diff:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&url2=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08















-vince









On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:



A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.

This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access WS database Working
Group of the IETF.



Title : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases

Authors : Vincent Chen

Subir Das

Lei Zhu

John Malyar

Peter J. McCann

Filename : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt

Pages : 104

Date : 2014-01-14



Abstract:

Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are

available for non-interfering use. This available spectrum is called

"White Space." Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum

"unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to

provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall

spectrum utilization.



One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report

spectrum availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among

multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be

defined and implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the

"Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".





The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/



There's also a htmlized version available at:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08



A diff from the previous version is available at:

http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08





Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
submission

until the htmlized version and diff are available at 
tools.ietf.org.



Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:

ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/



_______________________________________________

paws mailing list

paws@ietf.org

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws













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-vince

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Hi Vince, Don and the team,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>I went through the latest draft it looks good ho=
wever, I propose the following two issues to be considered:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Section 5.4: Device Capability</FONT></S=
TRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>I suggest that the device transmitting power sho=
uld be added as an option device capability parameter. For example, if a de=
vice specifically inform the database about its transmitting power capabili=
ty during the avail_spectrum_req then the database should only return a lis=
t of available spectrum with powers relevant to that specific request. </FO=
NT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I think this has been suggested before.</DIV>
<DIV>Currently, power capabilities are captured via device certification (e=
.g., "device type" in the US, combinations of "device type", "emissions cla=
ss", "technology ID" for ETSI),</DIV>
<DIV>so the available spectrum response must rely on those regulatory-speci=
fic attributes, rather than a separate power-level field.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The PAWS specification does allow additional fields to be added later,=
 so this might be a case of waiting for an actual use case.</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dgmail_quote>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Section 6.8.9: Spectrum</FONT></STRONG><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>I suggest in here we need a straightened-out exa=
mple of how spectrum and its resolutions are specified in the FCC case. The=
 provided example is either not clear enough or somehow something is missin=
g specifically for the FCC case. Please see the following excerpt from the =
current provide example:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>For example, <STRONG><U>In US, FCC requires only=
 one spectrum specification at 6MHz bandwidth;</U></STRONG> ETSI requires t=
wo (at 0.1MHz and 8MHz).",</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>That sounds like a good idea. I'll add an example along with more expl=
anation for the examples.</DIV>
<DIV>(See also example in Section 6.4.2)</DIV>
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; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dgmail_quote>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Kind Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Luzango.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Vincent Chen &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.c=
om" target=3D_blank>vchen@google.com</A>&gt; 17/01/2014 05:22 &gt;&gt;&gt;<=
BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Don,=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for the careful read!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gabor, should I upload a new version with the fixes?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>-vince</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Don Joslyn <SPAN=
 dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com" target=3D_bla=
nk>d.joslyn@spectrumbridge.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 1=
1pt">The new version looks good to me.<BR>Please find feedback attached, ju=
st some minor nits.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Don=20
<DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href=3D"mailto:Gabor.Ba=
jko@nokia.com" target=3D_blank>Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</A> [<A href=3D"mailto=
:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" target=3D_blank>Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com</A>]<BR>Recei=
ved: Tuesday, 14 Jan 2014, 3:10pm<BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com=
" target=3D_blank>vchen@google.com</A> [<A href=3D"mailto:vchen@google.com"=
 target=3D_blank>vchen@google.com</A>]; <A href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" ta=
rget=3D_blank>paws@ietf.org</A> [<A href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D=
_blank>paws@ietf.org</A>]<BR>Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paw=
s-protocol-08.txt<BR><BR>Good, thanks Vince.<BR><BR>This draft incorporates=
 the agreeable comments received during the second wglc.<BR><BR>I=E2=80=99d=
 like to ask people on the list to please review the set of changes the edi=
tor implemented and let the list know if you have any comments.<BR><BR>If n=
o comments received, I think the wg is done with the document and it is rea=
dy to be forwarded to the IESG. I plan to do that next week, so if you have=
<BR>comments to the draft then please send those to the list during this we=
ek.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Gabor<BR><BR><BR><BR>From: paws [mailto:<A href=3D"mailt=
o:paws-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>paws-bounces@ietf.org</A>]<BR>On B=
ehalf Of ext Vincent Chen<BR><BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM<BR=
><BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>paws@ietf.org</A>=
<BR><BR>Subject: Re: [paws] I-D Action: draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<BR>=
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gabor, All,<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>I've upl=
oaded a new version of the draft incorporating the proposed changes:<BR><BR=
><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Propose ruleset ID name for ETSI=
: ETSI-EN-301-598-1.0.0-draft <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Change TBD email ad=
dress to <BR><A href=3D"mailto:paws-iana-TBD@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>paws=
-iana-TBD@ietf.org</A> for proposing <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>changes to the PAW=
S IANA registries <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Moved discussion of required vCard =
properties to regulatory-specific sections <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Fixed =
vCard examples for organization names: Use "fn" property, but set "kind" to=
 "org". <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>o Shorten parameter names: <BR><BR><BR><BR>=
<BR>* freqHz -&gt; hz <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>* powerDbmPerBw -&gt; dbm<BR><BR>=
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Diff: <A href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdif=
f?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08=
" target=3D_blank>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protoc=
ol-07&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR=
><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-vince<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>=
<BR><BR>On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:internet-dra=
fts@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>internet-drafts@ietf.org</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><B=
R><BR><BR>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Draft=
s directories.<BR><BR>This draft is a work item of the Protocol to Access W=
S database Working Group of the IETF.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Title : Protocol to Ac=
cess White-Space (PAWS) Databases<BR><BR>Authors : Vincent Chen<BR><BR>Subi=
r Das<BR><BR>Lei Zhu<BR><BR>John Malyar<BR><BR>Peter J. McCann<BR><BR>Filen=
ame : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08.txt<BR><BR>Pages : 104<BR><BR>Date : 2014=
-01-14<BR><BR><BR><BR>Abstract:<BR><BR>Portions of the radio spectrum that =
are allocated to licensees are<BR><BR>available for non-interfering use. Th=
is available spectrum is called<BR><BR>"White Space." Allowing secondary us=
ers access to available spectrum<BR><BR>"unlocks" existing spectrum to maxi=
mize its utilization and to<BR><BR>provide opportunities for innovation, re=
sulting in greater overall<BR><BR>spectrum utilization.<BR><BR><BR><BR>One =
approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report<BR><BR>spectru=
m availability to devices. To achieve interoperability among<BR><BR>multipl=
e devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be<BR><BR>defined and=
 implemented. This document defines such a protocol, the<BR><BR>"Protocol t=
o Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>The IETF dat=
atracker status page for this draft is:<BR><BR><A href=3D"https://datatrack=
er.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/" target=3D_blank>https://datatrac=
ker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-paws-protocol/</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>There's also =
a htmlized version available at:<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/ht=
ml/draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D_blank>http://tools.ietf.org/html/=
draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>A diff from the previous ver=
sion is available at:<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3D=
draft-ietf-paws-protocol-08" target=3D_blank>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?ur=
l2=3Ddraft-ietf-paws-protocol-08</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Please note tha=
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org/internet-drafts/" target=3D_blank>ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/</=
A><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><BR>pa=
ws mailing list<BR><BR><A href=3D"mailto:paws@ietf.org" target=3D_blank>paw=
s@ietf.org</A><BR><BR><A href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws=
" target=3D_blank>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws</A><BR><BR><BR=
><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>-vince<BR><BR></DIV=
></DIV>Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (<A href=3D"http://www.ni=
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        Title           : Protocol to Access White-Space (PAWS) Databases
        Authors         : Vincent Chen
                          Subir Das
                          Lei Zhu
                          John Malyar
                          Peter J. McCann
	Filename        : draft-ietf-paws-protocol-09.txt
	Pages           : 106
	Date            : 2014-01-31

Abstract:
   Portions of the radio spectrum that are allocated to licensees are
   available for non-interfering use.  This available spectrum is called
   "White Space."  Allowing secondary users access to available spectrum
   "unlocks" existing spectrum to maximize its utilization and to
   provide opportunities for innovation, resulting in greater overall
   spectrum utilization.

   One approach to manage spectrum sharing uses databases to report
   spectrum availability to devices.  To achieve interoperability among
   multiple devices and databases, a standardized protocol must be
   defined and implemented.  This document defines such a protocol, the
   "Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Databases".


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