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        Title           : Extensions to the Path Computation Element Commun=
ication Protocol (PCEP) to compute service aware Label Switched Path (LSP).
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Vishwas Manral
                          Zafar Ali
                          George Swallow
                          Kenji Kumaki
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-service-aware-02.txt
	Pages           : 18
	Date            : 2014-01-06

Abstract:
   In certain networks like financial information network (stock/
   commodity trading) and enterprises using cloud based applications,
   Latency (delay), Latency-Variation (jitter) and Packet Loss is
   becoming a key requirement for path computation along with other
   constraints and metrics.  Latency, Latency-Variation and Packet Loss
   is associated with the Service Level Agreement (SLA) between
   customers and service providers.

   [OSPF-TE-EXPRESS] and [ISIS-TE-EXPRESS] describes mechanisms with
   which network performance information is distributed via OSPF and
   ISIS respectively.  The Path Computation Element Communication
   Protocol (PCEP) provides mechanisms for Path Computation Elements
   (PCEs) to perform path computations in response to Path Computation
   Clients (PCCs) requests.  This document describes the extension to
   PCEP to carry Latency, Latency-Variation and Packet Loss as
   constraints for end to end path computation.


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        Title           : Standard Representation Of Domain-Sequence
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
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                          Ramon Casellas
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence-04.txt
	Pages           : 33
	Date            : 2014-01-07

Abstract:
   The ability to compute shortest constrained Traffic Engineering Label
   Switched Paths (TE LSPs) in Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and
   Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) networks across multiple domains has been
   identified as a key requirement.  In this context, a domain is a
   collection of network elements within a common sphere of address
   management or path computational responsibility such as an Interior
   Gateway Protocol (IGP) area or an Autonomous Systems (AS).  This
   document specifies a standard representation and encoding of a
   Domain-Sequence, which is defined as an ordered sequence of domains
   traversed to reach the destination domain to be used by Path
   Computation Elements (PCEs) to compute inter-domain shortest
   constrained paths across a predetermined sequence of domains . This
   document also defines new subobjects to be used to encode domain
   identifiers.


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        Title           : PCE communication protocol (PCEP) Management Info=
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        Authors         : A S Kiran Koushik
                          Stephan Emile
                          Quintin Zhao
                          Daniel King
                          Jonathan Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-mib-06.txt
	Pages           : 47
	Date            : 2014-01-09

Abstract:
   This memo defines an experimental portion of the Management
   Information Base for use with network management protocols in the
   Internet community.  In particular, it describes managed objects for
   modeling of Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP)
   for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path
   Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs.


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Hi WG,

I would like to bring to your notice this ID:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-avantika-pce-multi-src-dest-00
It supports multiple sources and destinations in a single path computation =
request by defining a new END-POINTS type.

Kindly provide your comments and suggestions.

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Dear PCE subscribers,

iPOP2014 Call for Presentation is now open as follows.
The deadline for submitting presentation proposal is February 7th, 2014.

Best Regards,
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                     Call for Presentation

10th International Conference on IP + Optical Network (iPOP 2014)
                         May 22-23, 2014
 NTT R&D center Musashino, Tokyo, Japan
                  http://www.pilab.jp/ipop2014/

The conference is intended to share among the industry and the academia,
the knowledge, new findings, and experience on the state-of-the art of
IP and optical networking technologies. It features technical sessions
and planned exhibitions. The opportunity to participate is open to all.

Important Dates:
Submission deadline of one-page abstract: February 7, 2014=20
Notification of acceptance: March 24, 2014
Submission deadline of final presentation slides: April 11, 2014

The Technical Program Committee for iPOP 2014 is soliciting presentation=20
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implementation, and operational experiences are solicited.
The topics of the conference will include but not be limited to the followi=
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- Photonic network for NxGN and NwGN
- Multi-Layer Network (MLN)/Multi-Region Network (MRN)
- Inter-area/inter-AS network
- Software Defined Networking (SDN)
- Software Defined Optics (SDO) and its network application
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- Path Computation Element (PCE) and traffic engineering
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- Application with high-bandwidth demand
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- MPLS and Ethernet networking for inter-data center connectivity for cloud
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- Carrier Ethernet and MPLS-TP for backhauling
- Optical networking/switching for cloud services
- Testbed, field trial

If you wish to submit a topic for consideration, please send an Extended=20
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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Conveying Vendor-Specific Constraints in the Path Computation Element
   communication Protocol'
  (draft-ietf-pce-vendor-constraints-11.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Path Computation Element Working
Group.

The IESG contact persons are Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-vendor-constraints/




Technical Summary

   The Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) is used to convey path
   computation requests and responses between Path Computation Clients
   (PCCs) and Path Computation Elements (PCEs), and also between
   cooperating PCEs.  In PCEP the path computation requests carry
   details of the constraints and objective functions that the PCC
   wishes the PCE to apply in its computation.

   This document defines a facility to carry vendor-specific information
   in PCEP using a dedicated object and a new Type-Length-Variable that
   can be carried in any existing PCEP object.

Working Group Summary

   No strong controversy on the document, but the comment about 
   the actual need of defining proprietary fields within a standard 
   protocol came up several times.

Document Quality

  Some implementations claim to use the extensions defined in the I-D.

Personnel

  Julien Meuric is the Document Shepherd.
  Stewart Bryant is the Responsible Area Director.

RFC Editor Note

Section 1
New text at the end of the section

NEW
   It should be noted that by the very definition of "vendor-specific",
   the inclusion of either a Vendor Information object or the VENDOR-
   INFORMATION-TLV implies an inability to interoperate at a functional
   level with implementations from other vendors unless there is some
   cooperation agreement between vendors.  Sections 2.1 and 3.1 discuss
   backward compatibility which indicates how these protocol constructs 
   are handled by implementations that either do not support them at 
   all, while text in Sections 2 and 3 describes how implementations 
   handle the constructs if they understand them, but do not support the
   embedded Enterprise Number that indicates to which vendor the 
   constructs apply.

   When vendor-specific information is used by an implementation, the
   vendor is encouraged to document the meaning of the information to
   encourage wider use and implementation.  In particular, when there is
   more general interest in a vendor-specific extension, the vendor is
   encouraged to bring it to the IETF for standardisation as a regular
   protocol construct moving it out of the vendor-specific space.
END
---
Section 9
OLD
   Thanks to Meral Shirazipour, Ramon Casellas, Cyril Margaria, Dhruv
   Dhody, and Julien Meuric for review and comments.
NEW
   Thanks to Meral Shirazipour, Ramon Casellas, Cyril Margaria, Dhruv
   Dhody, Julien Meuric, and Robert Sparks for review and comments.
END

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Hi,

With half an eye on Diego's draft I asked in the Transport Area for some advice
and expertise from that community, and Joe Touch stepped forward.

Bearing in mind that Joe may not be the PCE expert that some of you are, here
are his comments on the use of TCP security in PCEP.

Double quote is me, and then later Diego's draft. Single quote is Joe.

Thanks to Joe for his time. Please be sure to copy him directly on any
discussions so that he can see them without subscribing to the PCE list.

Cheers,
Adrian

> > The PCE WG has http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lopez-pce-pceps/ which
> > is about running PCEP (the PCE protocol, a TCP-using protocol) using TLS and
> > TCP-AO.
> >
> > We could look at the work done in KARP (RFC 6952) but that is hardly
conclusive.
> 
> That work was driven largely by that WG's concern with the lack of
> availability of a TCP-AO implementation in end-system OSes (Linux or
> FreeBSD). They spent an inordinate amount of time complaining about
> that, time that could easily have been used to implement the protocol
> rather than worrying about alternate interim solutions.
> 
>  > The base PCEP spec (RFC 5440) pre-dated the
> > publication of TCP AO, but did include a forward pointer.
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> 
>                         Secure Transport for PCEP
>                          draft-lopez-pce-pceps-00
> 
> > 2.1.  TCP ports
> >
> >    The default destination port number for PCEPS is TCP/XXXX.
> >
> >    NOTE: This port has to be agreed and registered as PCEPS with IANA.
> 
> PCEP already is assigned to port 4189. RFC5440 already permits PCEP
> connections to use either TCP MD5 or TCP-AO, but at the time of that
> document there was no TCP-AO to reference.
> 
> As a result it should be trivial for a PCEP server to differentiate pcep
> vs. pceps connections:
> 
> 	MD5 must be pcep, and already don't use TLS
> 
> 	TCP-AO must be pceps, and thus must include TLS
> 
> 	connections using neither MD5 nor TCP-AO must be pceps,
> 	and thus must include TLS
> 
> I don't see a rationale for needing a separate port.
> 
>  > 2.2.  TLS Connection Establishment
> ...
> >    NOTE: We have to consider potential interactions between TLS re-
> >    negotiation and TCP-AO MKT
> 
> I don't understand this statement. TLS has nothing to do with TCP-AO;
> TCP-AO's protection does not modify the application (TLS) view of TCP at
> all (even if keys change during a connection).
> 
> There should be no interaction.
> 
> > 2.3.  TCP-AO Application
> >
> >    PCEPS implementations MAY in addition apply the mechanisms described
> >    by the TCP Authentication Option (TCP-AO, described in [RFC5925] to
> >    provide an additional level of protection with respect to attacks
> >    specifically addressed to forging the TCP connection underpinning
> >    TLS.  TCP-AO is fully compatible with and deemed as complementary to
> >    TLS, so its usage is to be considered as a security enhancement
> >    whenever any of the PCEPS peers require it.'
> 
> I don't understand the rational for the protection defined by PCEPS vs PCEP.
> 
> PCEP = *requires* TCP protection (either TCP MD5 or IPsec), but allows
> privacy to be optional (e.g., when using TCP MD5); regardless of the
> forward pointer to TCP-AO, there was no specification to cite, thus it
> cannot be required.
> 
> PCEPS = *requires* privacy by TLS, but leaves TCP protection as optional.
> 
> This makes no sense to me. IMO, TCP protection *must* be mandatory, or
> RFC5440 needs to be updated before PCEPS should proceed.
> 
> >    Implementations including support for TCP-AO MUST provide mechanisms
> >    to configure the requirements to use TCP-AO, as well as the
> >    association of a TCP-AO Master Key Tuple (MKT) with a particular
> >    peer.
> 
> The above is a strange way to say "implementations supporting TCP-AO
> MUST support TCP-AO", which is a tautology that need not be stated.
> 
> > Whether these mechanisms are provided by the administrative
> >    interface or rely on the TLS handshake according to procedures
> >    similar to those described in [RFC5216] and [RFC5705] is outside the
> >    scope of this document.
> 
> TLS cannot be used to protect TCP-AO sessions. For a given connection,
> TCP-AO must be started at connection establishment, which is prior to
> TLS negotiation.
> 
> ...
> 
> > 4.  Backward Compatibility
> >
> >    Since the procedure described in this document describes a security
> >    container for the transport of PCEP requests and replies carried on a
> >    newly allocated TCP port there will be no impact on the base PCEP
> >    and/or any further extensions.
> 
> See my comment above; I agree, but not because a new port is needed.
> 
> > 5.  IANA Considerations
> >
> >    NOTE: PCEPS has to be registered as TCP port XXXX.
> >
> >    No new PCEP messages or other objects are defined.
> 
> As noted earlier, I disagree with this requirement.
> 
> > 6.  Security Considerations
> >
> >    Since computational resources required by TLS handshake and
> >    ciphersuite are higher than unencrypted TCP, clients connecting to a
> >    PCEPS server can more easily create high load conditions and a
> >    malicious client might create a Denial-of-Service attack more easily.
> 
> FWIW, the same is true for IPsec and TCP-AO (at best only IPsec might
> have hardware support).
> 
> ---
> 
> Missing - the doc needs to specify which parameters to use for TCP-AO,
> from among those listed in RFC5926.


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Thank you for the review Juergen. We will discuss between the
authors/vendors and address your comments/recommendations in a new version
of the document, and email you directly if we need to clarify any points. 

Br, Dan.   

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Hi,

please find below my review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-mib-06. Overall, the
document is in a pretty good shape. It is nice to review MIB modules that
are well put together.

The MIB module compiles fine with smiling 0.4.8 and produces no warnings.
Below is a list of comments in document order of appearance.
Some may require an action other maybe not. I have marked the ones that I
find more important with (*).

a) I guess you should spell out PCE In the title.

b) The abstract says the I-D defines an "experimental portion" of the
   MIB while the document is marked as standards-track. This does not
   seem to be consistent.

c) In section 2, ATD should STD.

d) The LAST-UPDATED and REVISION clauses as well as the Copyright year
   in the DESCRIPTION clause of the MODULE-IDENTITY all date back to
   2013 even though the I-D was last updated in 2014. You may want to
   move to a date in 2014.

e) I suggest to replace pcePcepMIBObjects with pcePcepObjects. This
   aligns more with the recommendation given in appendix D of RFC
   4181.

f) I think the description of pcePcepEntityTable should use plural,
   that is, "... about PCEP Entities". Or will this table always have
   only a single row?

g) If you want to describe the enums of an INTEGER, please do so in
   the DESCRIPTION clause and not in comments (since comments may not
   be preserved by tools processing MIB modules).

h) pcePcepEntityAddr seems to serve two purposes, depending on whether
   the peer is a pce and a pcc. The pcePcepPeerRole object makes me
   believe an entity can also be both at the same time. If so, then
   how does one interpret pcePcepEntityAddr? (*)

i) pcePcepEntityConnectMaxRetry has a UNITS clause saying it is in
   seconds. This might be a cut and paste error?

j) pcePcepPeerAddr has a length restriction which essentially also
   restricts pcePcepPeerAddrType. pcePcepPeerAddrType kind of has a
   restriction inline but not explicit via subtyping. It might be more
   inline with the INET-ADDRESS-MIB to not restrict this. If you want
   to restrict things, you may want to do that in a compliance
   statement. (*)

   Despite future proofing considerations, the restrictions make it
   impossible to have PCE entities with non-global that is non-unique
   addresses (because you may not be able to disambiguate them).

k) pcePcepPeerDiscontinuityTime refers to RFC 1907. I think the
   current version it should refer to is RFC 3418.  In any case, if
   you think explicit text concerning sysUpTime is needed, I think
   this warrants a normative reference added to RFC 3418 and a
   statement in section 5.5. (I am not sure this is really needed
   since you kind of import knowledge about sysUpTime via the
   TimeStamp TC you are using.

j) The *AvgRspTime, *LWMRspTime, *HWMRspTime objects have a resolution
   of seconds. This means that times < 500ms will be represented as 0
   seconds and thus indistinguishable from no message at all. I do not
   know whether this is an issue or not. Is it possible to have
   sub-second response times? (*)

k) pcePcepSessState typo: entiries -> entries

l) pcePcepSessPeerDeadTimer typo: for for -> for


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Hi,

please find below my review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-mib-06. Overall,
the document is in a pretty good shape. It is nice to review MIB
modules that are well put together.

The MIB module compiles fine with smiling 0.4.8 and produces no
warnings. Below is a list of comments in document order of appearance.
Some may require an action other maybe not. I have marked the ones
that I find more important with (*).

a) I guess you should spell out PCE In the title.

b) The abstract says the I-D defines an "experimental portion" of the
   MIB while the document is marked as standards-track. This does not
   seem to be consistent.

c) In section 2, ATD should STD.

d) The LAST-UPDATED and REVISION clauses as well as the Copyright year
   in the DESCRIPTION clause of the MODULE-IDENTITY all date back to
   2013 even though the I-D was last updated in 2014. You may want to
   move to a date in 2014.

e) I suggest to replace pcePcepMIBObjects with pcePcepObjects. This
   aligns more with the recommendation given in appendix D of RFC
   4181.

f) I think the description of pcePcepEntityTable should use plural,
   that is, "... about PCEP Entities". Or will this table always have
   only a single row?

g) If you want to describe the enums of an INTEGER, please do so in
   the DESCRIPTION clause and not in comments (since comments may not
   be preserved by tools processing MIB modules).

h) pcePcepEntityAddr seems to serve two purposes, depending on whether
   the peer is a pce and a pcc. The pcePcepPeerRole object makes me
   believe an entity can also be both at the same time. If so, then
   how does one interpret pcePcepEntityAddr? (*)

i) pcePcepEntityConnectMaxRetry has a UNITS clause saying it is in
   seconds. This might be a cut and paste error?

j) pcePcepPeerAddr has a length restriction which essentially also
   restricts pcePcepPeerAddrType. pcePcepPeerAddrType kind of has a
   restriction inline but not explicit via subtyping. It might be more
   inline with the INET-ADDRESS-MIB to not restrict this. If you want
   to restrict things, you may want to do that in a compliance
   statement. (*)

   Despite future proofing considerations, the restrictions make it
   impossible to have PCE entities with non-global that is non-unique
   addresses (because you may not be able to disambiguate them).

k) pcePcepPeerDiscontinuityTime refers to RFC 1907. I think the
   current version it should refer to is RFC 3418.  In any case, if
   you think explicit text concerning sysUpTime is needed, I think
   this warrants a normative reference added to RFC 3418 and a
   statement in section 5.5. (I am not sure this is really needed
   since you kind of import knowledge about sysUpTime via the
   TimeStamp TC you are using.

j) The *AvgRspTime, *LWMRspTime, *HWMRspTime objects have a resolution
   of seconds. This means that times < 500ms will be represented as 0
   seconds and thus indistinguishable from no message at all. I do not
   know whether this is an issue or not. Is it possible to have
   sub-second response times? (*)

k) pcePcepSessState typo: entiries -> entries

l) pcePcepSessPeerDeadTimer typo: for for -> for


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Hi,

We have updated the draft, clarifying the Motivation (section 3).
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth-03

As usual any comments/suggestions are welcome.

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Hi All,

Here is update to the 'LSP-DB sync between stateful PCEs' I.D. with
clarification in the motivation & reference to the LSP-DB sync optimization
I.D. (draft-minei-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations).

Comments / questions are welcome!

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Abstract:
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   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

   [STATEFUL-PCE] specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to enable
   stateful control of MPLS-TE and GMPLS Label Switched Paths (LSPs) via
   PCEP and maintaining of these LSPs at the stateful PCE.  This
   document describes the mechanisms of LSP Database (LSP-DB)
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<font face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color=3D"#783f04">Here is update to=
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org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-lspdb-sync-02</a><br>
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=A0 =A0The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides<=
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=A0 =A0mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path<br>
=A0 =A0computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests=
.<br>
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=A0 =A0[STATEFUL-PCE] specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to enable<br>
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a<br>
=A0 =A0PCEP and maintaining of these LSPs at the stateful PCE. =A0This<br>
=A0 =A0document describes the mechanisms of LSP Database (LSP-DB)<br>
=A0 =A0synchronization between stateful PCEs.<br>
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Hi,all:
We have submitted an update of draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization-01.
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                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Stefano Previdi
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   Link bandwidth utilization considering the total bandwidth of a link
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Hi PCEers,

A new version without any tech changes has been submitted only for making t=
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We as the authors have not received any comments for quite long time, so we=
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If there are any comments, we would update the draft quickly based on the c=
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        Title           : Extensions to the Path Computation Element commun=
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                          Tomonori Takeda
                          Adrian Farrel
                          Fatai Zhang
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   MPLS and GMPLS networks may be constructed from layered service
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   The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) is designed as a communication
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Hi PCErs,

Authors have received a following suggestion to change the description for
the new objective function
Maximum Reserved Under-Utilized Path (MRUP) [
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization-01#section=
-6.2
].

We agree that the use of Maximum reservable bandwidth R(L) would be the
correct way. We plan to make this change in the next revision.

Name: Maximum Reserved Under-Utilized Path (MRUP)



Description: Find a path P such that (Min {(R(Lpi)- ru(Lpi)) /

R(Lpi), i=3D1...K } ) is maximized.

Regards,
Dhruv

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From: Avantika <avantika.sushilkumar@huawei.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Subject: Suggestion in draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization regarding MRUP
calculation
To: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com>, Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>, "
sprevidi@cisco.com" <sprevidi@cisco.com>
Cc: Udayasree palle <udayasree.palle@huawei.com>, "dhruv.ietf@gmail.com" <
dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>


 Hi Authors!



I have a suggestion regarding the formula used for optimization using
objective function MRUP in draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization.



As per the draft,



Name: Maximum Reserved Under-Utilized Path (MRUP)



Description: Find a path P such that (Min {(c(Lpi)- ru(Lpi)) /

c(Lpi), i=3D1...K } ) is maximized.





Let me take the example of below topology,



  100(max reservable BW on each link)



Source                   Destination

A------------------------C

|                        |

|                        |

|                        |

|                        |

B------------------------D



LSP1 : BW 20

LSP2 : BW 20

LSP3 : BW 40



Every time a LSP is established path A-C, the RSVP-traffic flowing through
them, let=92s say, is approximately 60% of the current reserved.



After each LSP is established, the output of the formula ((c(Lpi)- ru(Lpi))
/ c(Lpi))

Consider link A-C

LSP1: (20 =96 12)/20

LSP2: (40 =96 24)/40

LSP3: (80 =96 48)/80



Always remains as 0.4.



In my opinion, if instead of using Current Reserved bandwidth, c(L) in
the above formula, if we use Maximum reservable bandwidth on link L,
denoted R(L).



Name: Maximum Reserved Under-Utilized Path (MRUP)



Description: Find a path P such that (Min {(R(Lpi)- ru(Lpi)) /

R(Lpi), i=3D1...K } ) is maximized.





Consider link A-C

LSP1 : (100 =96 12)/100 =3D 0.88

LSP2 : (100 =96 24)/100 =3D 0.76

LSP3 : (100 =96 48)/100 =3D 0.52



This gives a much clearer reserved utilization for the link.



Also, now if the OF MRUP is used for the path computation:



LSP1 : A-C

LSP2 : A-B-D-C

LSP3 : A-C



Hence we get a more diversified path using MRUP OF.



Please let me know your opinion regarding the same.



Regards,

Avantika

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(53,28,117)=
"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif">Hi PCErs,</font></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(53,28,117)"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-ser=
if"><br></font></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(53,28,117)"><font face=3D"v=
erdana, sans-serif">Authors have received a following suggestion to change =
the description for the new objective function=A0</font></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(53,28,117)">
<font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Maximum=
 Reserved Under-Utilized Path (MRUP) [</span><a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.o=
rg/html/draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization-01#section-6.2">http://tools.=
ietf.org/html/draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization-01#section-6.2</a>].</f=
ont></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(53,28,117)"><font face=3D"v=
erdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
color:rgb(53,28,117)"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif">We agree that the =
use of=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Maximum reservable bandwidth R(L)=
 would be the correct way</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">. We plan =
to make this change in the next revision.=A0</span></font></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:small;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:1=
em;font-family:arial"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(53,28,117)">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-f=
amily:arial"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39=
;">Name: Maximum Reserved Under-Utilized Path (MRUP)<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-f=
amily:arial"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39=
;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:=
36pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial">
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">Descriptio=
n: Find a path P such that (Min {(R(Lpi)- ru(Lpi)) /<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-family:arial">
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">R(Lpi), i=
=3D1...K } ) is maximized.</span></p></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><fo=
nt color=3D"#351c75" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l;color:rgb(53,28,117)">
Regards,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,san=
s-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(53,28,117)">Dhruv</div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class=3D"g=
mail_sendername">Avantika</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:avant=
ika.sushilkumar@huawei.com">avantika.sushilkumar@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span><=
br>
Date: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM<br>Subject: Suggestion in draft-wu-pce-=
pcep-link-bw-utilization regarding MRUP calculation<br>To: Dhruv Dhody &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.dhody@huawei.com">dhruv.dhody@huawei.com</a>&gt;, Q=
in Wu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bill.wu@huawei.com">bill.wu@huawei.com</a>&gt;,=
 &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:sprevidi@cisco.com">sprevidi@cisco.com</a>&quot; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sprevidi@cisco.com">sprevidi@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Udayasree palle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:udayasree.palle@huawei.com">udaya=
sree.palle@huawei.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com=
">dhruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com=
">dhruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br><br>





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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Hi Authors!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">I have a suggestion regarding the formula used for optimizatio=
n using objective function MRUP in draft-wu-pce-pcep-link-bw-utilization.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">As per the draft,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">Name: Maximum Reserved Under-Utiliz=
ed Path (MRUP)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">Description: Find a path P such tha=
t (Min {(c(Lpi)- ru(Lpi)) /<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">c(Lpi), i=3D1...K } ) is maximized.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><u></u>=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Let me take the example of below topology,
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">=A0 100(max reservable BW on each link)<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Source=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 D=
estination=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">A------------------------C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">|=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0|<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">|=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0|<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">|=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0|<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">|=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0|<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">B------------------------D<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP1 : BW 20<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP2 : BW 20<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP3 : BW 40<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Every time a LSP is established path A-C, the RSVP-traffic flo=
wing through them, let=92s say, is approximately 60% of the current reserve=
d.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">After each LSP is established, the output of the formula ((c(L=
pi)- ru(Lpi)) / c(Lpi))
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Consider link A-C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP1: (20 =96 12)/20<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP2: (40 =96 24)/40<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP3: (80 =96 48)/80<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Always remains as 0.4.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<pre><span style>In my opinion, if instead of using Current Reserved bandwi=
dth, c(L) in the above formula, if we use Maximum reservable bandwidth on l=
ink L, denoted </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">R(L)</span><span sty=
le>. <u></u><u></u></span></pre>

<pre><span style><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">Name: Maximum Reserved Under-Utiliz=
ed Path (MRUP)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">Description: Find a path P such tha=
t (Min {(R(Lpi)- ru(Lpi)) /<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:&#39;Courier New&#39;">R(Lpi), i=3D1...K } ) is maximized.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<pre><span style><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Consider link A-C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<pre><span style>LSP1 : (100 =96 12)/100 =3D 0.88<u></u><u></u></span></pre=
>
<pre><span style>LSP2 : (100 =96 24)/100 =3D 0.76<u></u><u></u></span></pre=
>
<pre><span style>LSP3 : (100 =96 48)/100 =3D 0.52<u></u><u></u></span></pre=
>
<pre><span style><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style>This gives a much clearer reserved utilization for the lin=
k. <u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Also, now if the OF MRUP is used for the path computation:
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP1 : A-C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP2 : A-B-D-C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">LSP3 : A-C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Hence we get a more diversified path using MRUP OF.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Please let me know your opinion regarding the same.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;">Avantika<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Couri=
er New&#39;"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><u></u>=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><u></u>=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p>
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Hi WG,

With this update we have corrected the format of PCRpt and PCUpd messages
by changing the placement of <attribute-list>.
[
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01
]

Further comments are welcome!

Regards,
Dhruv

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Name:           draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp
Revision:       01
Title:          Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for
Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label
Switched Paths
Document date:  2014-01-25
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          16
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01.txt
Status:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/
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http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01
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Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an
   appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point-
   to-multipoint (P2MP) TE LSPs.  [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app]
   presents several use cases, demonstrating scenarios that benefit from
   the deployment of a stateful PCE.  [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]
   provides the fundamental PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions
   needed to support stateful PCE functions.  This memo provides
   extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful
   PCE capability in supporting point-to-multipoint (P2MP) TE LSPs.




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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Hi WG,<br><br>With=
 this update we have corrected the format of PCRpt and PCUpd messages by ch=
anging the placement of <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">&lt=
;attribute-list&gt;</span>.<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
small;color:rgb(53,28,117);display:inline">
[</div><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-palle-pce-statef=
ul-pce-p2mp-01">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-palle-pce-stateful=
-pce-p2mp-01</a><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;color=
:rgb(53,28,117);display:inline">
]</div></font><div><font face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br>Further comm=
ents are welcome! <br><br>Regards,<br>Dhruv</font></div><div><font face=3D"=
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ailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span><br>=
Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:52 PM<br>Subject: New Version Notification for=
 draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01.txt<br>
To: Udayasree Palle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:udayasree.palle@huawei.com">udaya=
sree.palle@huawei.com</a>&gt;, Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf=
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A new version of I-D, draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01.txt<br>
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<br>
Name: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp<br>
Revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 01<br>
Title: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extension=
s for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label =
Switched Paths<br>
Document date: =A02014-01-25<br>
Group: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Individual Submission<br>
Pages: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A016<br>
URL: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=
draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf=
.org/internet-drafts/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01.txt</a><br>
Status: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-p=
alle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/doc/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/</a><br>
Htmlized: =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palle-pce=
-stateful-pce-p2mp-01" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-p=
alle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01</a><br>
Diff: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddra=
ft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/rf=
cdiff?url2=3Ddraft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01</a><br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=A0 =A0The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an<br>
=A0 =A0appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point-<=
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=A0 =A0to-multipoint (P2MP) TE LSPs. =A0[I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app]<br>
=A0 =A0presents several use cases, demonstrating scenarios that benefit fro=
m<br>
=A0 =A0the deployment of a stateful PCE. =A0[I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]<br>
=A0 =A0provides the fundamental PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) extension=
s<br>
=A0 =A0needed to support stateful PCE functions. =A0This memo provides<br>
=A0 =A0extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful=
<br>
=A0 =A0PCE capability in supporting point-to-multipoint (P2MP) TE LSPs.<br>
<br>
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Hi, all:
Here is the update to draft-wu-pce-dns-pce-discovery-04 based on review fro=
m DNS folks (Thanks for Yiyang for volunteer review)and=20
Comments received in the last IETF meeting.
The main changes are
a.Use "pce+acronym" instead of "pce+apX" in the NAPTR service field format
b.Take out TLS/TCP from Application Protocol Tags for now since TLS/TCP tra=
nsport still needs more discussion.
c. Remove txt record for PCE scope since capability query has already suppo=
rted PCE scope discovery.
Let us know if you think any other remaining issue that hasn't been address=
ed.

Regards!
-Qin
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        Title           : Path Computation Element (PCE) Discovery using Do=
main Name System(DNS)
        Authors         : Qin Wu
                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Daniel King
                          Diego R. Lopez
	Filename        : draft-wu-pce-dns-pce-discovery-04.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2014-01-25

Abstract:
   Discovery of the Path Computation Element (PCE) within an IGP area or
   routing domain is possible using OSPF [RFC5088] and IS-IS [RFC5089].
   However, it has been established that in certain deployment scenarios
   PCEs may not wish, or be able to participate within the IGP process.
   In those scenarios, it is beneficial for the Path Computation Client
   (PCC) (or other PCE) to discover PCEs via an alternative mechanism to
   those proposed in [RFC5088] and [RFC5089].

   This document specifies the requirements, use cases, procedures and
   extensions to support PCE type and capability discovery via DNS.


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Hi PCErs,

We have uploaded a new I.D. for PCE-Inititaed P2MP TE LSP.
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-initiated-p2mp-lsp-00

It is a companion document to the Stateful PCE for P2MP.
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-01

We request WG for feedback and comments.

Regards,
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Name:           draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-initiated-p2mp-lsp
Revision:       00
Title:          PCEP Extensions for PCE-initiated Point-to-Multipoint LSP
Setup in a Stateful PCE Model
Document date:  2014-01-26
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          9
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-palle-pce-stateful-pce-initiated-p2mp-lsp-00.txt
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Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an
   appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point-
   to-multipoint (P2MP) TE LSPs.  The extensions described in
   [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce] provide stateful control of Multiprotocol
   Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE
   LSP) via PCE communication Protocol (PCEP), for a model where the
   Path Computation Client (PCC) delegates control over one or more
   locally configured LSPs to the PCE.  Further
   [I-D.ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp] describes the creation and deletion
   of PCE-initiated LSPs under the stateful PCE model.  This document
   provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable stateful PCE-
   Initiated point-to-multipoint (P2MP) TE LSP instantiation.




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</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(53,28,117)"><f=
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nititaed P2MP TE LSP.=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
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=A0 =A0Path Computation Client (PCC) delegates control over one or more<br>
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Hi Working Group (and chairs),

When this I-D was adopted there was talk about how we might keep it alive to
collect other questions as they came along. Well, it has been a bit quiet and
no-one seems to have had anything to add.

Dan and I have a few minor edits, so I will spin a new version before the Feb
14th cut-off. If anyone has anything to add, now is a very good time to say so.

But after that we wonder what the future holds.
Is this a living document forever doomed to roll rocks up hills?
Or should we draw a line under it, publishing it as a snap-shot of the current
scenery, and let another document be written if more questions develop?

Thanks,
Adrian


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El 29/01/2014 16:37, Adrian Farrel escribió:
> Hi Working Group (and chairs),
>
> When this I-D was adopted there was talk about how we might keep it alive to
> collect other questions as they came along. Well, it has been a bit quiet and
> no-one seems to have had anything to add.
> Or should we draw a line under it, publishing it as a snap-shot of the current
> scenery, and let another document be written if more questions develop?
Dear Adrian, all,

Just my humble opinion:  if the WG moves forward with new "items" (such 
as it has been the case, for example, of the stateful capabilities) 
which could, in turn, raise futher questions, the "time window" during 
which such questions will be identified will probably span months if not 
years. In light of this, I believe the document covers well the main 
questions regarding PCE as it is now (barred that someone else may 
propose additional Q&A) and justifies publication in its (basically) 
current format. -bis, -ter versions could be written in the future, if 
need be.

Thanks
R.

