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tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 853LQIV94Y_j; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18671A0328; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:30:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.4.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140511133045.24686.52684.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 06:30:45 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/ymFYEajHknq4yZFgiN9hbrTc7DE Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 13:30:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCE-based Computation Procedure To Compute Shortest Constrained P2MP Inter-domain Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths Authors : Quintin Zhao Dhruv Dhody Daniel King Zafar Ali Ramon Casellas Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2014-05-11 Abstract: The ability to compute paths for constrained point-to-multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE LSPs) across multiple domains has been identified as a key requirement for the deployment of P2MP services in MPLS and GMPLS-controlled networks. The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been recognized as an appropriate technology for the determination of inter-domain paths of P2MP TE LSPs. This document describes an experiment to provide procedures and extensions to the PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) for the computation of inter-domain paths for P2MP TE LSPs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun May 11 06:40:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA561A032A for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YriSgVSX065a for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016E21A0334 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4BDdDdL001683 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 14:39:14 +0100 Received: from Serenity (88-97-23-122.dsl.zen.co.uk [88.97.23.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4BDdDqm001677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 14:39:13 +0100 From: "Daniel King" To: Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 14:39:09 +0100 Message-ID: <001501cf6d1e$63fb1700$2bf14500$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: Ac9tHcD0jRCnBmdzSn669Z529FjnEA== Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1017-20688.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.695-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--3.695-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: vEvJ7Rh1lGhjDV//SvkH3riMC5wdwKqdbv16+gil4jeFbkyVO0E5B24+ gA+i9D2DFBM2i3rKMQrDnHvB74PWHEMpVZZsZyZG2OSj4qJA9QY026H7nOZLr3Wh+eggFkwM3nm UdxJW/64uUV0Eqp7BwMr5AVdin4a1EO6iheizlV7M1jffIgQXhpq7t0wv5i1OtXl9IxEPXOoYh7 F0vpEEEeyCSv4Llfqp9AYYp6dByDAe5COU7dNCwj/bje4fv8tV/Hd4CUWIS/EhvFjBsLEZNAOHl es/nBwndpWTnz2dcsnZLAoIw72C6Fl962MCvoLEDq5QZEGvahaC7C2rJeUToVpbYq2f4jz+Z3KR kLO0vRk0cyESKOBv9AXOZdORTuqrGAdnzrnkM485f9Xw/xqKXcidYBYDjITptdDeBZKbp3iJSt7 i5EtAR1gXepbcl7r7FmBvMsDanG/hFRnH9OeICWjoydIwhbLrGJIS2c3DtEwrj4UNiNdOy3iy8A dtrs2U2jpB84H8CppRZzIUJHPJoMQipqBjCWUok29DpbHzXBn6JeGRPb4bOe9gnPK3jno+/i8Gk rWNhTUY13eWqgiht37cGd19dSFd Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/3yT3yVuIDA33nrYFZ0TdUXyoN-0 Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 13:39:48 -0000 Hi All, Please note that we recently uploaded a new version of the PCEP P2MP Inter-Domain Procedures document. This is in response to Adrian's AD review: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-proce dures/history/ Updates include: - Terminology clarification and consistency check - Update to problem statement, mainly for readability - Guidance provide for Objective Function and Constraints - Clarification of Procedures - Address various NITs A full diff is available here: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-proce dures-06 Br, Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: 11 May 2014 14:31 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCE-based Computation Procedure To Compute Shortest Constrained P2MP Inter-domain Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths Authors : Quintin Zhao Dhruv Dhody Daniel King Zafar Ali Ramon Casellas Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2014-05-11 Abstract: The ability to compute paths for constrained point-to-multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE LSPs) across multiple domains has been identified as a key requirement for the deployment of P2MP services in MPLS and GMPLS-controlled networks. The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been recognized as an appropriate technology for the determination of inter-domain paths of P2MP TE LSPs. This document describes an experiment to provide procedures and extensions to the PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) for the computation of inter-domain paths for P2MP TE LSPs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-proce dures/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures- 06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-proce dures-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Mon May 12 05:27:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5EB1A070C; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t04oJDBPbymG; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239E41A0681; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.4.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20140512122707.20058.37894.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:27:07 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/-Y0s8irGxLmDCg6taMTRMnzkcuQ Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Last Call: (PCE-based Computation Procedure To Compute Shortest Constrained P2MP Inter-domain Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths) to Experimental RFC X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:27:08 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to consider the following document: - 'PCE-based Computation Procedure To Compute Shortest Constrained P2MP Inter-domain Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths' as Experimental RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-05-26. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The ability to compute paths for constrained point-to-multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE LSPs) across multiple domains has been identified as a key requirement for the deployment of P2MP services in MPLS and GMPLS-controlled networks. The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been recognized as an appropriate technology for the determination of inter-domain paths of P2MP TE LSPs. This document describes an experiment to provide procedures and extensions to the PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) for the computation of inter-domain paths for P2MP TE LSPs. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2004/ From nobody Tue May 13 23:17:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F571A0240; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:17:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O3mizEOfwOL8; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5407C1A023C; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (unknown [112.208.34.106]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D6AC180203E; Wed, 14 May 2014 08:17:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53730A82.7000606@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 08:17:38 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures.all@tools.ietf.org, "pce@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/ajtD_pRhw4axooedRZajUkSUjHI Subject: [Pce] RTG Area review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 06:17:55 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate,please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-inter-domain-p2mp-procedures-06 Reviewer: Loa Andersson Review Date: 2013-05-14 IETF LC End Date: couldn't find Intended Status: Experimental Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: 1. I like that an experimental RFC (for once) actually describe an experiment 2. The abstract says: "The ability to compute paths for constrained point-to-multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE LSPs) across multiple domains has been identified as a key requirement for the deployment of P2MP services in MPLS and GMPLS-controlled networks." Where was this defined (reference)? 3. There are a couple of cases where words that ae in the 2119-language appear in the document in lower cases, please check if this is intended or if the normative language are intended. 4. For the terminology section it would be good to know which terms that are defined in this document for the first time, otherwise please give a reference to where to find the definition. 5. This is possibly an oxymoron comment, but it seems to me that the problem statement (section 3) is too focused on describing how hard it is to solve the inter-domain P2MP path computation, rather than to describe what the problem are. 6. I'm a little bit concerned about the requirements, it seems that they are very close to design criteria. 7. Section 7.1 the concept "entry boundary nodes" are used, is this concept defined anywhere? For example from figure 2 I understand that L, W, P and T are entry boundary nodes, while D and E are not. 8. I think it would be good have an H-PCE entry in the terminology section. The document is fairly easy to read and quality is good, there is sometimes a wish from the authors to bring through how dammed hard this problem is to solve - they might be right - but there is a risk of creating a lot of trees that stops you from seeing the forrest (or maybe the other way around). Major Issues: None Minor issues: It seems that the document should lead up to a set of protocol extensions, but in the the only change is to add the C-bit, right? Nits: None - that are not captured in the comments above! /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed May 14 01:18:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95431A0235 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:18:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YKr5S-lf2IVm for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail1.rd.orange.com (r-mail1.rd.orange.com [217.108.152.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264581A0273 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail1.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E6876A4422B for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 10:19:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.46]) by r-mail1.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE373A44229 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 10:19:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.44]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 May 2014 10:18:14 +0200 Received: from [10.193.71.122] ([10.193.71.122]) by ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 14 May 2014 10:18:15 +0200 Message-ID: <537326C7.8060905@orange.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 10:18:15 +0200 From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pce@ietf.org" References: <003701cf6ef6$941d92d0$bc58b870$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <003701cf6ef6$941d92d0$bc58b870$@olddog.co.uk> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <003701cf6ef6$941d92d0$bc58b870$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2014 08:18:15.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E2E1620:01CF6F4D] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/9MpyOR4haJ0UOY4lO6ml4DxDG5g Subject: [Pce] Fwd: FW: YANG Advice and Editing Session at the next IETF meeting X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 08:18:25 -0000 Hi all. YANG modules are more and more often mentioned in PCE discussions. The following session could be an interesting opportunity to begin with. Regards, JP & Julien > -----Original Message----- From: iesg [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Benoit Claise Sent: 13 May 2014 22:53 To: > undisclosed-recipients: Subject: YANG Advice and Editing Session at > the next IETF meeting > > [Sorry for the potential cross-posting] > > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/tutorials/yang-session.html Let me > stress that this should be an interactive session, and not a > tutorial. So come with your (plan to create) YANG modules. > > Regards, Benoit From nobody Thu May 22 03:13:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182081A0066 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 03:13:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5DtHHgLlFwPs for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 03:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (p-mail2.rd.orange.com [195.101.245.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5491A0081 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 03:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 51926E30061; Thu, 22 May 2014 12:19:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.47]) by p-mail2.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD62E3001D; Thu, 22 May 2014 12:19:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.44]) by ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 May 2014 12:13:18 +0200 Received: from [10.193.71.122] ([10.193.71.122]) by ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 May 2014 12:13:18 +0200 Message-ID: <537DCDBD.2000509@orange.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 12:13:17 +0200 From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: draft-ietf-pce-questions@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2014 10:13:18.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[73921C50:01CF75A6] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/y-4_rkHMkdqwmgkX4JS0aXmC2DA Cc: "pce@ietf.org" Subject: [Pce] Last IPR Check on draft-ietf-pce-questions X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:13:23 -0000 Dear authors of the aforementioned document, The usual check to move forward properly: has all IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-questions been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details) A response from each of you is expected. Regards, JP & Julien From nobody Thu May 22 03:22:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3775C1A015A for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 03:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KLESljqyrWp2 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 396A51A0066 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 03:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4MAMHER006271; Thu, 22 May 2014 11:22:17 +0100 Received: from 950129200 ([217.206.228.219]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4MAMEBS006183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 May 2014 11:22:14 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Julien Meuric'" , References: <537DCDBD.2000509@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <537DCDBD.2000509@orange.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:22:12 +0100 Message-ID: <013101cf75a7$b457e0c0$1d07a240$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHi0lqdxgc/KG/qPjoe2oARbdEPzZslqnFQ Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1017-20708.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No-1.696-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No-1.696-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: +c13yJDs900zx9GDMr0Hv2zBijri5+RVt+hhn8Iy6GXadW4iYSMjUTrz 6vBw5SSAf3/QPlme8PyoIpjdGod918L+5IGlCvSWcFEiuPxHjsXAWTziWGaDPJTVN3FiLkyo/O8 v7/ij1Tx/B27K4YOSXDKHYLsR4q0LTX7PJ/OU3vL+xOhjarOnHmrz/G/ZSbVq+gtHj7OwNO3jcY kWF87QnTVA4jnze1+zu+gSZ+4CBcZA/4oZk4soT+4SoEmYI1W9uTEhYJNE97kyrdN69Vo8y83Kn Mvw/x9A3ah2PZe5+eeYw27h8izluofH/fn3ddET5L5lO4I9n60+J+6OAjXd2qHTvV9CPo3K7ndU HUMmXu5+3BndfXUhXQ== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/8yaw9MSKfSSF7lK-N9LLXyWbA1s Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Last IPR Check on draft-ietf-pce-questions X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:22:24 -0000 Hi Julien, I am not personally aware of any IPR related to this I-D that is not already disclosed. Cheers, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Julien Meuric [mailto:julien.meuric@orange.com] > Sent: 22 May 2014 11:13 > To: draft-ietf-pce-questions@tools.ietf.org > Cc: pce@ietf.org > Subject: Last IPR Check on draft-ietf-pce-questions > > Dear authors of the aforementioned document, > > The usual check to move forward properly: has all IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-pce-questions been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR > rules? (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details) > > A response from each of you is expected. > > Regards, > > JP & Julien From nobody Thu May 22 17:09:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60B11A02A9 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.85 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.85 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vq2UhFPwZANU for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 17:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA 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Title Page Header s/Network Working Group/PCE Working Group Abstract Add acronym - Virtual Network Topology Manager (VNTM) & Hierarchical PCE (H-PCE). Sec 1. Introduction Add acronym - Virtual Network Topology Manager (VNTM) Sec 1.1 Terminology OLD Readers are assumed to be thoroughly familiar with terminology defined in defined in [RFC4655], [RFC4726], [RFC5440], and [RFC5623]. NEW Readers are assumed to be thoroughly familiar with terminology defined in [RFC4655], [RFC4726], [RFC5440], [RFC5623], [RFC6805] and [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]. =20 Sec 2. What Is Topology Information? Add acronym - objective functions (OF) Sec 3. How Is Topology Information Gathered? s/some how/somehow Sec 5. How Do I Select Between PCEs? Correct the spacing in the following line: OLD: A PCC may also vary which PCE it uses according to congestion information reported by the PCEs using the Notification Object and Notification Type[RFC5440] . NEW: A PCC may also vary which PCE it uses according to congestion information reported by the PCEs using the Notification Object and Notification Type [RFC5440]. Sec 8. Who Runs Or Owns a Parent PCE? IMHO a bit of introduction about Parent PCE would help set the tone. Something like this..=20 A Parent PCE as per [RFC6805] is responsible for selecting inter-domain path by coordinating with child PCEs and maintaining a domain topology map.=20 Sec 12. Does H-PCE Solve The Internet? s/layers/levels (better to be consistent and use the word level in context of H-PCE) Sec 16. How Do Redundant Stateful PCEs Synchronize State? s/issued described above/issue described above Sec 24. Where Does Policy Fit In? Policy enters into all aspect of the use of a PCE starting from the very decision to use a PCE to delegate computation function from the LSRs. - Each PCC must select which computations will be delegated to a PCE. Avoid the use of word delegate as it has another meaning in context of stateful PCE. Perhaps use 'off-load'? - An Active PCE must have a policy relationship with its LSRs to determine which LSPs can be modified or triggered, and what LSP delegation is supported. Is 'what LSP' intentional? Shouldn't this be 'which LSP'? Sec 29. References =20 draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce is considered an informative reference. http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/normative-informative.html Normative references specify documents that must be read to understand or implement the technology in the new RFC, or whose technology must be present for the technology in the new RFC to work. IMHO draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce should be read to understand some sections of this document. If that is true and you agree, Can a "note and move on" [RFC4897] be applied in this case?=20 -- Some unexpanded acronyms - AS, LSP, ASBR, NMS, NETCONF, SONET, SDH. -- Regards, Dhruv --------------------------------------------------------------- Dhruv Dhody=20 System Architect,=20 Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd., Banagalore Mobile: +91-9845062422 This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWE= I, which=20 is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. An= y use of the=20 information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, tot= al or partial=20 disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the inten= ded=20 recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please not= ify the sender by=20 phone or email immediately and delete it! From nobody Wed May 28 11:29:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042AE1A0648 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 11:29:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iIeqZSSMdRff for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 11:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E97D1A01D8 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4SISu5V001643; Wed, 28 May 2014 19:28:56 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4SIStO6001633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2014 19:28:55 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Dhruv Dhody'" , References: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B7556A909@szxeml556-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B7556A909@szxeml556-mbs.china.huawei.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:28:56 +0100 Message-ID: <055501cf7aa2$b021f5e0$1065e1a0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIGJU9kqpOuehjUCUcRbzjOBRkShJro+oew Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1017-20722.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--20.280-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--20.280-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: dL10VBB8yoenykMun0J1wvHkpkyUphL9ktxvVMaWMbC1eX0jEQ9c6r56 O2RHSMAY4rbtRrba7WEMfgmZ55C/YVSBsb5cYIgpaNnyr85zWcB/r8x3wtvaX0X5hc8ioB2+2Pd mZeuCYyAIviuIH1r1UXQeHo/CecVWL0W1btd8e56lM5Vswu703zcdORtBgu2peo8XhGKpIh7VOC IlEhiCOz1j/s2B86TwgkN4C+7bX+qz+LG1KgBPBDCIlN/eSPB9BdebOqawiLt8q8ktY7N90LSeP 3F8zgSU6NO/XDuC0w8kUEWK0fTUQHRU4ZV3BPcw4k7Mg7Jxs09r9+Kgn2XgeOf0WNpxS2rnDKHO RsA60Y4O0k9oAwP8k63dXB3PFeOHXnz+/AfEbElwUSK4/EeOxSlayzmQ9QV0Q7roRC02qf4lncP TMo+HsSnu9YXs3Agu8snJNwZXAFxLF43MnY8dllZ0E+oA5pdVRtu4vtjjtzT52q+ftoTEiI8Qqc v6CJ/cTXizGt9BdLTkueiOASEgiR3ZJC2sAO0hqbg9uWhLYLf4qCLIu0mtIOdTjSOFC/vqo8WMk QWv6iV95l0nVeyiuEIhOWyY9/MAC24oEZ6SpSk+Mqg+CyrtwA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/2k3_cqSE3bgH5WMTvCUYCgKUZY4 Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Regarding draft-ietf-pce-questions-05 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:29:08 -0000 These are good nits, thanks. Chairs. Do you want them worked on now or later? A > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody > Sent: 23 May 2014 08:27 > To: draft-ietf-pce-questions@tools.ietf.org > Cc: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] Regarding draft-ietf-pce-questions-05 > > Hi Authors, > > Please find some nits/comments which may be addressed as part of the next > update, possibly triggered by responsible AD or IESG reviews. > > Title Page Header > s/Network Working Group/PCE Working Group > > Abstract > Add acronym - Virtual Network Topology Manager (VNTM) & > Hierarchical PCE (H-PCE). > > Sec 1. Introduction > Add acronym - Virtual Network Topology Manager (VNTM) > > Sec 1.1 Terminology > OLD > Readers are assumed to be thoroughly familiar with terminology > defined in defined in [RFC4655], [RFC4726], [RFC5440], and > [RFC5623]. > NEW > Readers are assumed to be thoroughly familiar with terminology > defined in [RFC4655], [RFC4726], [RFC5440], [RFC5623], [RFC6805] > and [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]. > > Sec 2. What Is Topology Information? > Add acronym - objective functions (OF) > > Sec 3. How Is Topology Information Gathered? > s/some how/somehow > > Sec 5. How Do I Select Between PCEs? > Correct the spacing in the following line: > OLD: > A PCC may also vary which PCE it uses according to congestion > information reported by the PCEs using the Notification Object > and Notification Type[RFC5440] . > NEW: > A PCC may also vary which PCE it uses according to congestion > information reported by the PCEs using the Notification Object > and Notification Type [RFC5440]. > > Sec 8. Who Runs Or Owns a Parent PCE? > IMHO a bit of introduction about Parent PCE would help set the > tone. Something like this.. > > A Parent PCE as per [RFC6805] is responsible for selecting > inter-domain path by coordinating with child PCEs and > maintaining a domain topology map. > > Sec 12. Does H-PCE Solve The Internet? > s/layers/levels (better to be consistent and use the word level in > context of H-PCE) > > Sec 16. How Do Redundant Stateful PCEs Synchronize State? > s/issued described above/issue described above > > Sec 24. Where Does Policy Fit In? > > Policy enters into all aspect of the use of a PCE starting from > the very decision to use a PCE to delegate computation function > from the LSRs. > - Each PCC must select which computations will be delegated to a > PCE. > > Avoid the use of word delegate as it has another meaning in > context of stateful PCE. Perhaps use 'off-load'? > > - An Active PCE must have a policy relationship with its LSRs to > determine which LSPs can be modified or triggered, and what LSP > delegation is supported. > > Is 'what LSP' intentional? Shouldn't this be 'which LSP'? > > Sec 29. References > draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce is considered an informative > reference. > > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/normative-informative.html > Normative references specify documents that must be read to > understand or implement the technology in the new RFC, or whose > technology must be present for the technology in the new RFC to > work. > > IMHO draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce should be read to understand some > sections of this document. If that is true and you agree, Can a > "note and move on" [RFC4897] be applied in this case? > > -- > Some unexpanded acronyms - AS, LSP, ASBR, NMS, NETCONF, SONET, SDH. > -- > > Regards, > Dhruv > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Dhruv Dhody > System Architect, > Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd., > Banagalore > Mobile: +91-9845062422 > This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, > which > is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. 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