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Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,

The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, intro=
duces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. Current=
 recommended values clash with already allocated values.

As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allo=
cation procedure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft i=
s stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for early all=
ocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?

On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and eve=
n has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft=
 going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?

Best Regards,

=D3scar



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<div>Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,</div>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>The dr=
aft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, introduces =
a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. Current recom=
mended values clash with already allocated
 values.</div>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>As sug=
gested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allocation=
 procedure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft is stab=
le). Would it be possible that authors
 of the draft ask for&nbsp;early allocation of code points for draft-ietf-p=
ce-inter-layer-ext ?</div>
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</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>On the=
 other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and even has =
expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft going=
 to last call in the near future? Are
 you expecting a review?</div>
<div><br>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Best R=
egards,</div>
<div><br>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>=D3sca=
r&nbsp;</div>
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Hi Oscar,

I don't think we need to ask early allocation of code points, which is for =
the special case (ie., early allocation is not the normal procedure) and th=
e right values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., the cla=
sh will disappear) .

The authors of this draft including me are taking care of this draft and we=
 always welcome any review comments from the WG.

Note that the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would like t=
o move forward [draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<http://tools.ietf.org/=
wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/>] first, and then move forward=
 this draft.

Any further comments are apprecicated.


Best Regards

Fatai

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Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,

The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, intro=
duces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. Current=
 recommended values clash with already allocated values.

As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allo=
cation procedure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft i=
s stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for early all=
ocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?

On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and eve=
n has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft=
 going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?

Best Regards,

=D3scar



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 and the right values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., =
the clash will disappear) .
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp=
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family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The author=
s of this draft including me are taking care of this draft and we always we=
lcome any review comments from the WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Note that =
the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would like to move for=
ward [</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tools.ietf.org/wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/">draft-ietf=
-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions</a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">]
 first, and then move forward this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Any further comments are ap=
precicated.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Best Regards<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
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raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Fatai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft=
-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext &amp; status of draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dear authors =
of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The draft dra=
ft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, introduces a set o=
f new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. Current
 recommended values clash with already allocated values.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">As suggested =
in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allocation proced=
ure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft
 is stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for&nbsp;ea=
rly allocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On the other =
hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and even has expired=
. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft
 going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
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amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
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Hi Fatai,

It is crystal clear that when the document becomes an RFC, IANA will assign=
 the correct number.

In my humble opinion, requesting for the early allocation is not "a special=
 case", but the normal procedure that should be followed (obviously, it is =
not the traditional way to do things), approved by IANA, so early implement=
ations of stable documents have a code point that has no clashes. Furthermo=
re, early allocated code points are maintained in the IANA registry. Tradit=
ional way of adding the "suggested value" in the IANA section in the draft =
has led to many problems. We even have a very recent case where a value use=
d in a draft with early implementations has forced a value in an RFC with l=
ess implementations to change.

    Summing up, I see absolutely no reason not to ask for the early allocat=
ion, in this particular draft, and in all stable drafts in the working grou=
p. I the particular case of this drafts, the suggested values of the new ob=
jects are the same ones are values used in existing RFCs, complicating the =
interoperability.

In any case, requesting the early allocation is a decision to be taken by t=
he authors of the draft. However, I would like to know also the opinions of=
 the chairs on wether the early allocation procedure is the "normal procedu=
re" or the "special case" for stable working group documents.

Best Regards,

=D3scar



De: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com<mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com>>
Fecha: viernes, 5 de septiembre de 2014 07:59
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:os=
car.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>, "draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.=
ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org>" <draft-ietf=
-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@t=
ools.ietf.org>>
CC: "pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft-iet=
f-pce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Hi Oscar,

I don't think we need to ask early allocation of code points, which is for =
the special case (ie., early allocation is not the normal procedure) and th=
e right values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., the cla=
sh will disappear) .

The authors of this draft including me are taking care of this draft and we=
 always welcome any review comments from the WG.

Note that the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would like t=
o move forward [draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<http://tools.ietf.org/=
wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/>] first, and then move forward=
 this draft.

Any further comments are apprecicated.


Best Regards

Fatai

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM
To: draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-int=
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Cc: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>
Subject: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft-ietf-p=
ce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,

The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, intro=
duces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. Current=
 recommended values clash with already allocated values.

As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allo=
cation procedure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft i=
s stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for early all=
ocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?

On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and eve=
n has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft=
 going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?

Best Regards,

=D3scar



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<div>Hi Fatai,</div>
<div><br>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>It is =
crystal clear that when the document becomes an RFC, IANA will assign the c=
orrect number.</div>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>In my =
humble opinion, requesting for the early allocation is not &#8220;a special=
 case&#8221;, but the normal procedure that should be followed (obviously, =
it is not the traditional way to do things), approved
 by IANA, so early implementations of stable documents have a code point th=
at has no clashes. Furthermore, early allocated code points are maintained =
in the IANA registry. Traditional way of adding the &#8220;suggested value&=
#8221; in the IANA section in the draft has
 led to many problems. We even have a very recent case where a value used i=
n a draft with early implementations has forced a value in an RFC with less=
 implementations to change.&nbsp;</div>
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</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; Summing up, I see absolutely no reason not to ask for th=
e early allocation, in this particular draft, and in all stable drafts in t=
he working group. I the particular case of this drafts, the suggested value=
s of the new objects are the same ones are
 values used in existing RFCs, complicating the interoperability.&nbsp;</di=
v>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>In any=
 case, requesting the early allocation is a decision to be taken by the aut=
hors of the draft. However, I would like to know also the opinions of the c=
hairs on wether the early allocation
 procedure is the &#8220;normal procedure&#8221; or the &#8220;special case=
&#8221; for stable working group documents.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Best R=
egards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>=D3sca=
r</div>
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<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</div>
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">De: </span>Fatai Zhang &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:zhangfatai@huawei.com">zhangfatai@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Fecha: </span>viernes, 5 de septiembre de =
2014 07:59<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Para: </span>Oscar Gonzalez de Dios &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com">oscar.gonzalezdedios@t=
elefonica.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-e=
xt@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org">draft=
-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">CC: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pce@iet=
f.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.=
org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Asunto: </span>RE: [Pce] Request for early=
 allocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext &amp; status =
of draft<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">I don&#8217;t think we ne=
ed to ask early allocation of code points, which is for the special case (i=
e., early allocation is not the normal procedure)
 and the right values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., =
the clash will disappear) .
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">The authors of this draft=
 including me are taking care of this draft and we always welcome any revie=
w comments from the WG.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Note that the WG chairs t=
old in the previous meeting that they would like to move forward [</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.=
org/wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/">draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep=
-extensions</a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">]
 first, and then move forward this draft.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify; text-justify:inter-ideo=
graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify; text-justify:inter-ideo=
graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Any further comments are apprecicated.
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify; text-justify:inter-ideo=
graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify; text-justify:inter-ideo=
graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify; text-justify:inter-ideo=
graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best Regards</span></p>
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graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify; text-justify:inter-ideo=
graph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Fatai</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt; font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt; fon=
t-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Pce [<a href=3D"mailto:pce-b=
ounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org"=
>draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft=
-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext &amp; status of draft</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-=
layer-ext,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-=
ext, in its version 8 right now, introduces a set of new PCEP objects, whic=
h require object-class values. Current
 recommended values clash with already allocated values.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">As suggested in the last IETF meeting=
 in Toronto, the use of the early allocation procedure is recommended to ha=
ndle the code points (when the draft is
 stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for&nbsp;early=
 allocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">On the other hand, I see that the dra=
ft has been stable for a while and even has expired. Who is taking care of =
the updates of the draft? Is the draft
 going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?</span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">Best Regards,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:8pt; font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">=D3scar&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
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mily:Calibri,sans-serif; color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
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Thread-Topic: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft
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Hi Oscar and Fatai,

I think the special case would be determined if the drafts have implementat=
ions that have been shipped/deployed in production networks (which is above=
 lab trials) prior to the standardization.

So any notes to the WG with implementations in production networks will jus=
tify the early IANA allocation.

Regards,
Young

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:50 AM
To: Fatai Zhang; draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org
Cc: pce@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft-ie=
tf-pce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Hi Fatai,

It is crystal clear that when the document becomes an RFC, IANA will assign=
 the correct number.

In my humble opinion, requesting for the early allocation is not "a special=
 case", but the normal procedure that should be followed (obviously, it is =
not the traditional way to do things), approved by IANA, so early implement=
ations of stable documents have a code point that has no clashes. Furthermo=
re, early allocated code points are maintained in the IANA registry. Tradit=
ional way of adding the "suggested value" in the IANA section in the draft =
has led to many problems. We even have a very recent case where a value use=
d in a draft with early implementations has forced a value in an RFC with l=
ess implementations to change.

    Summing up, I see absolutely no reason not to ask for the early allocat=
ion, in this particular draft, and in all stable drafts in the working grou=
p. I the particular case of this drafts, the suggested values of the new ob=
jects are the same ones are values used in existing RFCs, complicating the =
interoperability.

In any case, requesting the early allocation is a decision to be taken by t=
he authors of the draft. However, I would like to know also the opinions of=
 the chairs on wether the early allocation procedure is the "normal procedu=
re" or the "special case" for stable working group documents.

Best Regards,

=D3scar



De: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com<mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com>>
Fecha: viernes, 5 de septiembre de 2014 07:59
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:os=
car.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>, "draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.=
ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org>" <draft-ietf=
-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@t=
ools.ietf.org>>
CC: "pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft-iet=
f-pce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Hi Oscar,

I don't think we need to ask early allocation of code points, which is for =
the special case (ie., early allocation is not the normal procedure) and th=
e right values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., the cla=
sh will disappear) .

The authors of this draft including me are taking care of this draft and we=
 always welcome any review comments from the WG.

Note that the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would like t=
o move forward [draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<http://tools.ietf.org/=
wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/>] first, and then move forward=
 this draft.

Any further comments are apprecicated.


Best Regards

Fatai

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM
To: draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-int=
er-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org>
Cc: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>
Subject: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft-ietf-p=
ce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,

The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, intro=
duces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. Current=
 recommended values clash with already allocated values.

As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allo=
cation procedure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft i=
s stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for early all=
ocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?

On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and eve=
n has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft=
 going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?

Best Regards,

=D3scar



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Oscar and Fatai,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think the special case =
would be determined if the drafts have implementations that have been shipp=
ed/deployed in production networks (which is above lab trials)
 prior to the standardization. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">So any notes to the WG wi=
th implementations in production networks will justify the early IANA alloc=
ation.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Young<o:p></o:p></span></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Pce [mai=
lto:pce-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 05, 2014 6:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fatai Zhang; draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for d=
raft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext &amp; status of draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Hi Fatai,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">It is crystal clear that wh=
en the document becomes an RFC, IANA will assign the correct number.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">In my humble opinion, reque=
sting for the early allocation is not &#8220;a special case&#8221;, but the=
 normal procedure that should be followed (obviously, it is not the
 traditional way to do things), approved by IANA, so early implementations =
of stable documents have a code point that has no clashes. Furthermore, ear=
ly allocated code points are maintained in the IANA registry. Traditional w=
ay of adding the &#8220;suggested value&#8221;
 in the IANA section in the draft has led to many problems. We even have a =
very recent case where a value used in a draft with early implementations h=
as forced a value in an RFC with less implementations to change.&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp; &nbsp; Summing up, I=
 see absolutely no reason not to ask for the early allocation, in this part=
icular draft, and in all stable drafts in the working group. I the
 particular case of this drafts, the suggested values of the new objects ar=
e the same ones are values used in existing RFCs, complicating the interope=
rability.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">In any case, requesting the=
 early allocation is a decision to be taken by the authors of the draft. Ho=
wever, I would like to know also the opinions of the chairs
 on wether the early allocation procedure is the &#8220;normal procedure&#8=
221; or the &#8220;special case&#8221; for stable working group documents.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=D3scar<o:p></o:p></span></=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
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fatai@huawei.com">zhangfatai@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Fecha: </b>viernes, 5 de septiembre de 2014 07:59<br>
<b>Para: </b>Oscar Gonzalez de Dios &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezded=
ios@telefonica.com">oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pce=
-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-=
pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ie=
tf.org</a>&gt;<br>
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;<a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Asunto: </b>RE: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for dr=
aft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext &amp; status of draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Oscar,</span><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I don&#8217;t think we ne=
ed to ask early allocation of code points, which is for the special case (i=
e., early allocation is not the normal procedure) and the right
 values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., the clash will=
 disappear) .
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The authors of this draft=
 including me are taking care of this draft and we always welcome any revie=
w comments from the WG.</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Note that the WG chairs t=
old in the previous meeting that they would like to move forward [</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org=
/wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/">draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-ex=
tensions</a></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">]
 first, and then move forward this draft.</span><span style=3D"color:black"=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">Any further comments are apprecicated.
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">Best Regards</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F49=
7D">Fatai</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">From:</span></b><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;;color:black"> Pce [<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bou=
nces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org"=
>draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for draft=
-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext &amp; status of draft</span><span style=3D"color:=
black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dear authors of draft-ietf-p=
ce-inter-layer-ext,</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"=
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The draft draft-ietf-pce-int=
er-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, introduces a set of new PCEP obje=
cts, which require object-class values. Current recommended
 values clash with already allocated values.</span><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"=
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">As suggested in the last IET=
F meeting in Toronto, the use of the early allocation procedure is recommen=
ded to handle the code points (when the draft is stable).
 Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for&nbsp;early allocati=
on of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?</span><span style=3D=
"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"=
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On the other hand, I see tha=
t the draft has been stable for a while and even has expired. Who is taking=
 care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft going to
 last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?</span><span styl=
e=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"=
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Best Regards,</span><span st=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=D3scar&nbsp;</span><span st=
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The SDN/MPLS 2014 Conference will take place November 2-5 in Washington DC
and will
include an extensive four day program consisting of tutorials, technical
sessions, panels, and exhibits. The key topics to be discussed at this
year's conference include: Virtualization, SDN, Cloud and Data Centers, NFV,
PCE, Mobility, Traffic Engineering, Transport SDN, Orchestration,
multi-play applications across common infrastructure and other emerging
technologies.



The SDN/MPLS 2014 Conference program is available at
http://www.isocore.com/sdn-mpls/
*Tutorials (Sunday)*: http://www.isocore.com/sdn-mpls/tutorials.htm
*Technical sessions (Mon- Wed)**:*
http://www.isocore.com/sdn-mpls/technical_sessions.htm

Please make sure to register for the SDN/MPLS 2014 by *September 15* for
reduced rate registration. Please do so at:

*http://www.isocore.com/sdn-mpls/attendees.php
<http://www.isocore.com/sdn-mpls/attendees.php>*

Lastly, the conference hotel is the Marriott Wardman Park in Washington DC.
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Secure Transport for PCEP
        Authors         : Diego R. Lopez
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
                          Qin Wu
                          Dhruv Dhody
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pceps-01.txt
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	Date            : 2014-09-11

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defines
   the mechanisms for the communication between a Path Computation
   Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or among PCEs.
   This document describe the usage of Transport Layer Security (TLS) to
   enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed for it.  The
   additional security mechanisms are provided by the transport protocol
   supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect its flexibility and
   extensibility.


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multi-play applications across common infrastructure and other emerging
technologies.

 

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Technical sessions (Mon- Wed):
http://www.isocore.com/sdn-mpls/technical_sessions.htm

Please make sure to register for the SDN/MPLS 2014 by September 15 for
reduced rate registration. Please do so at: 

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Please
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Hi,

This new version essentially introduces the idea of a StartTLS message, whi=
ch was the agreement for TLS startup after the discussion of the draft with=
 Transport Area experts. A few aspects remain open for further experimentat=
ion and refinement, though.

Be goode,

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From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pceps-01.txt
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working Group of =
the IETF.

       Title           : Secure Transport for PCEP
       Authors         : Diego R. Lopez
                         Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
                         Qin Wu
                         Dhruv Dhody
Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pceps-01.txt
Pages           : 12
Date            : 2014-09-11

Abstract:
  The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defines
  the mechanisms for the communication between a Path Computation
  Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or among PCEs.
  This document describe the usage of Transport Layer Security (TLS) to
  enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed for it.  The
  additional security mechanisms are provided by the transport protocol
  supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect its flexibility and
  extensibility.


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<div><br>
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<div>This new version essentially introduces the idea of a StartTLS message=
, which was the agreement for TLS startup after the discussion of the draft=
 with Transport Area experts. A few aspects remain open for further experim=
entation and refinement, though.</div>
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<span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"=
font-family:'Helvetica'">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">in=
ternet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
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eft:0px">
<span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=
=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>[Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pceps-01.t=
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nt-family:'Helvetica'">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org">i-d-ann=
ounce@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
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eft:0px">
<span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:'Helvetica'">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>=
&gt;<br>
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<br>
<div><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working Group of =
the IETF.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Secure Transport for PCEP<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Authors &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Diego R. Lopez<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
Qin Wu<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
Dhruv Dhody<br>
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Filename &n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: draft-ietf-pce-pceps-01.txt<br>
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Pages &nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: 12<br>
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Date &nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: 2014-09-11<br=
>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defi=
nes<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;the mechanisms for the communication between a Path Computation=
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or among PCE=
s.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;This document describe the usage of Transport Layer Security (T=
LS) to<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed for it.=
 &nbsp;The<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;additional security mechanisms are provided by the transport pr=
otocol<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect its flexibili=
ty and<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;extensibility.<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps/">https://=
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps/</a><br>
<br>
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<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pceps-01<br>
<br>
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Hi,folks:

Here is a new draft to discuss PCEP Extensions for service segment used in =
Segment Routing.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dw-pce-service-segment-routing-00

It extends SR-TE path defined in [I-D.sivabalan-pce-segment-routing<https:/=
/tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dw-pce-service-segment-routing-00#ref-I-D.sivaba=
lan-pce-segment-routing>] and allows a stateful PCE

to compute and instantiate SR-TE paths that have service functions (SF) (or=
 service segments)involved.



We like to solicit some review on this draft. Thanks!



Regards!

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<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US">Here is a new draft to discuss PCEP Extensions fo=
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segment-routing-00">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dw-pce-service-segmen=
t-routing-00</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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nts)involved.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
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<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We like to sol=
icit some review on this draft. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards!<o:p><=
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Hi Oscar.

Sorry for the late response, I have overlooked the part directed to the 
chairs.

Even if suboptimal from the implementer's point of view, the usual 
procedure is codepoint allocation during RFC publication. Anyway, a 
process for early allocation is defined: as such, it is not a "special 
case" (a case without defined procedure would be), but not the 
mainstream procedure either.

To correct one of your statement below, a WG I-D is owned by a WG. 
Requesting early allocation, as taking strong decisions related to a WG 
I-D, needs WG consensus (i.e. more than authors' decision). So far, no 
consensus for early allocation has been reached...

Back to this particular I-D, suggested values are already out-dated and 
I am not sure a sudden "early" (or rather "late, but before RFC") 
allocation would bring much value at this stage. (But we may miss some 
information there.)

Regards,

Julien


Sep. 05, 2014 - OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS:
> Hi Fatai,
 >
 > It is crystal clear that when the document becomes an RFC, IANA will
 > assign the correct number.
 >
 > In my humble opinion, requesting for the early allocation is not “a
 > special case”, but the normal procedure that should be followed
 > (obviously, it is not the traditional way to do things), approved by
 > IANA, so early implementations of stable documents have a code point
 > that has no clashes. Furthermore, early allocated code points are
 > maintained in the IANA registry. Traditional way of adding the
 > “suggested value” in the IANA section in the draft has led to many
 > problems. We even have a very recent case where a value used in a
 > draft with early implementations has forced a value in an RFC with
 > less implementations to change.
 >
 > Summing up, I see absolutely no reason not to ask for the early
 > allocation, in this particular draft, and in all stable drafts in the
 > working group. I the particular case of this drafts, the suggested
 > values of the new objects are the same ones are values used in
 > existing RFCs, complicating the interoperability.
 >
 > In any case, requesting the early allocation is a decision to be
 > taken by the authors of the draft. However, I would like to know also
 > the opinions of the chairs on wether the early allocation procedure
 > is the “normal procedure” or the “special case” for stable working
 > group documents.
 >
 > Best Regards,
 >
 > Óscar
 >
 >
 >
 > De: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com
 > <mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com>> Fecha: viernes, 5 de septiembre de
 > 2014 07:59
 >
 > Hi Oscar,
 >
 >
 >
 > I don’t think we need to ask early allocation of code points, which
 > is for the special case (ie., early allocation is not the normal
 > procedure) and the right values will be allocated during RFC
 > publication stage (ie., the clash will disappear) .
 >
 >
 >
 > The authors of this draft including me are taking care of this draft
 > and we always welcome any review comments from the WG.
 >
 >
 >
 > Note that the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would
 > like to move forward [draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
 > <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/>]
 > first, and then move forward this draft.
 >
 >
 >
 > Any further comments are apprecicated.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Best Regards
 >
 >
 >
 > Fatai
 >
 >
 >
 > *From:*Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *OSCAR
 > GONZALEZ DE DIOS *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM
 >
 >
 >
 > Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,
 >
 >
 >
 > The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now,
 > introduces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class
 > values. Current recommended values clash with already allocated
 > values.
 >
 >
 >
 > As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the
 > early allocation procedure is recommended to handle the code points
 > (when the draft is stable). Would it be possible that authors of the
 > draft ask for early allocation of code points for
 > draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?
 >
 >
 >
 > On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while
 > and even has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft?
 > Is the draft going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting
 > a review?
 >
 >
 >
 > Best Regards,
 >
 >
 >
 > Óscar
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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Hi Julien

   Thanks for the answer,

El 12/09/14 17:18, "Julien Meuric" <julien.meuric@orange.com> escribi=F3:

>Hi Oscar.
>
>Sorry for the late response, I have overlooked the part directed to the
>chairs.
>
>Even if suboptimal from the implementer's point of view, the usual
>procedure is codepoint allocation during RFC publication. Anyway, a
>process for early allocation is defined: as such, it is not a "special
>case" (a case without defined procedure would be), but not the
>mainstream procedure either.

RFC 7120 is the main source of information for the allocation procedure.
The problem that such RFC tries to solve is when implementation and/or
deployment experience are desired or required before the document becomes
an RFC. Thus, it seems the mechanism is there for cases when there are
early (pre-RFC) implementations, which are desired for feedback before the
document becomes and RFC and changes are more difficult. Rest of cases
when there are no pre-RFC implementations are OK with the usual procedure.

>
>To correct one of your statement below, a WG I-D is owned by a WG.
>Requesting early allocation, as taking strong decisions related to a WG
>I-D, needs WG consensus (i.e. more than authors' decision).

Going back to RFC 7120, one of main thing to look at the early allocation
in a draft is (again quoting) =B3The Working Group chairs and Area Director=
s
(ADs) judge that there is sufficient interest in the community for early
(pre-RFC) implementation and deployment, or that failure to make an early
allocation might lead to contention for the code point in the field."



> So far, no
>consensus for early allocation has been reached...

Well.. I just noticed that there was a contention for the code point in
the draft=8A so I just suggested the procedure to the authors, as a mean of
help. One of the authors believed it was not necessary and standard
procedure could be followed.

>
>Back to this particular I-D, suggested values are already out-dated and
>I am not sure a sudden "early" (or rather "late, but before RFC")
>allocation would bring much value at this stage. (But we may miss some
>information there.)

Well.. I think we were missing in previous email the spirit of RFC 7120.
The information needed is whether there are early implementations or not.
I guess that either the answer is no, or people are shy or not able to
disclose it.

>
>Regards,
>
>Julien

Best Regards,

  =D3scar

>
>
>Sep. 05, 2014 - OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS:
>> Hi Fatai,
> >
> > It is crystal clear that when the document becomes an RFC, IANA will
> > assign the correct number.
> >
> > In my humble opinion, requesting for the early allocation is not =B3a
> > special case=B2, but the normal procedure that should be followed
> > (obviously, it is not the traditional way to do things), approved by
> > IANA, so early implementations of stable documents have a code point
> > that has no clashes. Furthermore, early allocated code points are
> > maintained in the IANA registry. Traditional way of adding the
> > =B3suggested value=B2 in the IANA section in the draft has led to many
> > problems. We even have a very recent case where a value used in a
> > draft with early implementations has forced a value in an RFC with
> > less implementations to change.
> >
> > Summing up, I see absolutely no reason not to ask for the early
> > allocation, in this particular draft, and in all stable drafts in the
> > working group. I the particular case of this drafts, the suggested
> > values of the new objects are the same ones are values used in
> > existing RFCs, complicating the interoperability.
> >
> > In any case, requesting the early allocation is a decision to be
> > taken by the authors of the draft. However, I would like to know also
> > the opinions of the chairs on wether the early allocation procedure
> > is the =B3normal procedure=B2 or the =B3special case=B2 for stable work=
ing
> > group documents.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > =D3scar
> >
> >
> >
> > De: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com
> > <mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com>> Fecha: viernes, 5 de septiembre de
> > 2014 07:59
> >
> > Hi Oscar,
> >
> >
> >
> > I don=B9t think we need to ask early allocation of code points, which
> > is for the special case (ie., early allocation is not the normal
> > procedure) and the right values will be allocated during RFC
> > publication stage (ie., the clash will disappear) .
> >
> >
> >
> > The authors of this draft including me are taking care of this draft
> > and we always welcome any review comments from the WG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Note that the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would
> > like to move forward [draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
> > <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/>]
> > first, and then move forward this draft.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any further comments are apprecicated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Fatai
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:*Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *OSCAR
> > GONZALEZ DE DIOS *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,
> >
> >
> >
> > The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now,
> > introduces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class
> > values. Current recommended values clash with already allocated
> > values.
> >
> >
> >
> > As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the
> > early allocation procedure is recommended to handle the code points
> > (when the draft is stable). Would it be possible that authors of the
> > draft ask for early allocation of code points for
> > draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?
> >
> >
> >
> > On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while
> > and even has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft?
> > Is the draft going to last call in the near future? Are you expecting
> > a review?
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > =D3scar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Dear WG,

Both draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app-02 and =
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This starts a 3-week WG Last call, which will end on Oct 6 at noon ET.

Please send your comments on the mailing list.

ps: this WG LC will be followed by another WG LC on =
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and draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-01.


Thanks.

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draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09 are now stable ready for WG Last =
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com>
> Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt =
as PCE WG Document
> Date: September 14, 2014 at 12:06:28 PM GMT+2
> To: "pce@ietf.org" <pce@ietf.org>
>=20
> Dear WG,
>=20
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting =
draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>=20
> Are you in favor of adopting =
draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as a PCE WG document ?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> JP and Julien.
>=20
>=20
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style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>[Pce] Adopting of =
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From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com<mailto:jvasseur@cisco.com=
>>
Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as PC=
E WG Document
Date: September 14, 2014 at 12:06:28 PM GMT+2
To: "pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>

Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
has considerably progressed in other WG.

Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as =
a PCE WG document ?

Thanks.

JP and Julien.



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We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
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has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
<br>
Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as =
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<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
JP and Julien.<br>
<br>
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Support as co-author.
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Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
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Thanks.

JP and Julien.




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wrote:

> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
> draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
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> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
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<br>
We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
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has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
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Thanks.<br>
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Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
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>Dear WG,
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>has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
>Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as
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>
>Thanks.
>
>JP and Julien.


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Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as
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>Dear WG,
>
>We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
>draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
>has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
>Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt
>as a PCE WG document ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>JP and Julien.
>
>
>


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Yes, support

BR
Daniele

> -----Original Message-----
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)
> Sent: domenica 14 settembre 2014 12:06
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as
> PCE WG Document
>=20
> Dear WG,
>=20
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-
> sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work has considerably
> progressed in other WG.
>=20
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt a=
s a
> PCE WG document ?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> JP and Julien.
>=20
>=20


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Hi,

Support as co-author.
Thanks!

Victor


El 15/09/14 09:02, "Daniele Ceccarelli" <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
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>Yes, support
>
>BR
>Daniele
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>>
>> Dear WG,
>>
>> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-
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>> progressed in other WG.
>>
>> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt
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>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> JP and Julien.
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Hi,

Support as co-author.
Thanks!

Victor


El 15/09/14 09:02, "Daniele Ceccarelli" <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
escribi=F3:

>Yes, support
>
>BR
>Daniele
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: domenica 14 settembre 2014 12:06
>> To: pce@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt=20
>>as  PCE WG Document
>>
>> Dear WG,
>>
>> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-=20
>> sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work has considerably=20
>> progressed in other WG.
>>
>> Are you in favor of adopting=20
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>>as a
>> PCE WG document ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> JP and Julien.
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>>
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Hi All,=20

After discussion with the chairs, we would like to close this survey on Fri=
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For those of you who are yet to send the survey, please do that as soon as =
possible directly to chairs.=20
For those who have submitted already, thanks a lot :)

Dhruv


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 04 July 2014 23:57
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] Survey on IRO
>=20
> Hi PCE WG.
>=20
> To address the issues associated with
> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence and "Include Route Object" in PCEP, D=
hruv
> has proposed to start a small survey. If implementers agree that we need =
to
> clarify this, they would be much welcome to answer the attached questions=
.
>=20
> Dhruv will process the results, but to improve confidentiality, answers m=
ay
> be sent privately to the chairs.
>=20
> Thanks,
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On 2014-09-14 6:06 AM, "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com> wrote:

>Dear WG,
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>We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
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>has considerably progressed in other WG.
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>Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as
>a PCE WG document ?
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>Thanks.
>
>JP and Julien.


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On 2014-09-14 6:06 AM, "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com> wrote:

>Dear WG,
>
>We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
>draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
>has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
>Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt
>as a PCE WG document ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>JP and Julien.
>
>
>


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Y'all:

Somehow lost the original message -- I would support
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:-)

Russ


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Support.

Thanks,
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>We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting=20
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>
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>Thanks.
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support as co-author.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <jvasseur@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
> draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">support as co-author.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
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=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
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<br>
We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work<br>
has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
<br>
Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as a=
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<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
JP and Julien.<br>
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <jvasseur@cisco.com>
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> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
> draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
>
>
>
>
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 WG,<br>
<br>
We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work<br>
has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
<br>
Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as =
a PCE WG document ?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
JP and Julien.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Support.

Regards,
Tarek

On 2014-09-14, 6:06 AM, "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com> wrote:

>Dear WG,
>
>We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
>draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
>has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
>Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt
>as a PCE WG document ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>JP and Julien.
>
>
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Support.
/himanshu

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of JP Vasseur (jvasseur)
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:12 AM
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Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app-02 and draft=
-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09

Dear WG,

Both draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app-02 and draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09 =
are now stable ready for WG Last Call.
This starts a 3-week WG Last call, which will end on Oct 6 at noon ET.

Please send your comments on the mailing list.

ps: this WG LC will be followed by another WG LC on draft-ietf-pce-stateful=
-sync-optimizations-01
and draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-01.


Thanks.

JP and Julien.

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Cheers,
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>>
>>We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
>>draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work
>>has considerably progressed in other WG.
>>
>>Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as
>>a PCE WG document ?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>JP and Julien.
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Support as a co-author.

Thanks,
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:06:24 +0000
From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com>
To: "pce@ietf.org" <pce@ietf.org>
Subject: [Pce] Adoption of draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt
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Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work has considerably progressed in ot=
her WG.

Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as a=
 PCE WG document ?

Thanks.

JP and Julien.


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Support as a co-author.

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:06:28 +0000
From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com>
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Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt
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Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work has considerably progressed in o=
ther WG.

Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as =
a PCE WG document ?

Thanks.

JP and Julien.

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In favor (as co-author).

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> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
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> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
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> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
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has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
<br>
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a PCE WG document ?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
JP and Julien.<br>
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Support

Best,
r.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:06 PM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <jvasseur@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
> draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
>
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seur (jvasseur) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jvasseur@cisco.com"=
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class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">Dear WG,<br>
<br>
We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work<br>
has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
<br>
Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as a=
 PCE WG document ?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
JP and Julien.<br>
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We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
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has considerably progressed in other WG.

Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as a=
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Thanks.

JP and Julien.


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From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of JP Vasseur (jvasseur)
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From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com<mailto:jvasseur@cisco.com=
>>
Subject: [Pce] Adopting of draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as PC=
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Date: September 14, 2014 at 12:06:28 PM GMT+2
To: "pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>

Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
has considerably progressed in other WG.

Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as =
a PCE WG document ?

Thanks.

JP and Julien.



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From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of JP Vasseur (jvasseur)
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Dear WG,

We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
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her WG.

Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as a=
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Thanks.

JP and Julien.


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Support, have following suggestions...

Sec 1.  Introduction
  =20
   A PCE or a
   PCC operating as a PCE (in hierarchical PCE environment) computes
   paths for MPLS Traffic Engineering LSPs (MPLS-TE LSPs) based on
   various constraints and optimization criteria.

I find 'PCC operating as a PCE' confusing here, it doesn't add any value, p=
erhaps you could say "A PCE or a set of cooperating PCEs compute ...."

Sec 3.  Overview of PCEP Operation in SR Networks
  =20
   o  An ordered set of both MPLS label(s) and IP address(es): In this
      case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
      corresponding SID(s) by consulting its TED.

Do you mean a combination of label and corresponding IP address? Or some no=
des and links are represented as Labels and some with IP address? The descr=
iption seems to suggest the latter in which case it might be stated more cl=
early.=20

   Furthermore, an LSP initially established
   via RSVP-TE signaling can be updated with SR-TE path.  This
   capability is useful when a network is migrated from RSVP-TE to SR-TE
   technology.  Similarly, an LSP initially created with SR-TE path can
   updated to signal the LSP using RSVP-TE if necessary.

The procedure to do so should be stated, the Path Setup Type TLV with the n=
ew PST seems like an obvious solution, maybe this could be placed in draft-=
sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type as a generic mechanism.=20

   The extensions specified in this document are applicable to the
   stateless PCE model defined in [RFC5440], as well as for the active
   stateful and passive stateful PCE models defined in
   [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce].

[I-D.ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp] can be added to this list as well.=20

   The SR Capability TLV is meaningful only in the OPEN message sent
   from a PCC to a PCE. =20

I think you mean the MSD value inside the SR capability TLV and not the ful=
l TLV itself?

Sec 5.3.  ERO Object

   Note that an SR-ERO subobject does not need to
   have both SID and NAI.  However, at least one of them MUST be
   present.

To handle this case you suggest...

      0                   1                   2                   3
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |L|    Type     |     Length    |  ST   |     Flags     |F|S|C|M|
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                              SID                              |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     //                        NAI (variable)                       //
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

SR-ERO subobject may have only SID, only NAI or both, and you list the vari=
ous combination of length possible for each ST type.=20
The figure above doesn't reflect that, as SID looks permanent.=20

Moreover, can the encoding be simplified by making SID encoding a must (as =
shown in the figure in the draft) with a suitable NULL value reserved for t=
he case when SID is not present or simply the value is ignored when S flag =
is set.=20

Nits
- Expand LDP, RSVP-TE on first use
- Update reference filsfils-rtgwg-segment-routing to draft-filsfils-spring-=
segment-routing
- SID Type (ST) can be listed independently and not clubbed with NAI descri=
ption in section 5.3.1

Hope the authors and WG find these useful.

Regards,
Dhruv

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> WG Document
>=20
> Dear WG,
>=20
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivaba=
lan-
> pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work has considerably progressed in o=
ther
> WG.
>=20
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt a=
s a
> PCE WG document ?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> JP and Julien.
>=20
>=20


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Support, have following suggestions.=20

Sec 3.  Path Setup Type TLV
   =20
   The one octet value contains the Path Setup Type
   (PST).  This document specifies the following PST value:

   o  PST =3D 0: Path is setup via RSVP-TE signaling protocol(default).

Can some PST value be reserved for experimental or private use for future e=
xperiments?
  =20
   If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV, it MUST
   ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440]). =20

Along with the unrecognizable TLV type, we should also state the behavior f=
or unrecognized PST value (for future documents that define new PST). It is=
 better if this is uniform across PST and defined in this document itself.=
=20

Sec 4.  Operation

   Regardless of whether PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV is used or not, if the PCE
   does not support the intended path setup type it MUST send PCErr with
   Error-Type =3D TBD (Traffic engineering path setup error) (recommended
   value is 21) and Error-Value =3D 1 (Unsupported path setup type) and
   close the PCEP session.

On the first read closing the session seems harsh, but since open message M=
UST exchange the capability of supporting new path setup type, this seems f=
ine. Maybe a few lines to explain the rationale can be added. Something in =
line of...=20

   "Before using the PATH-SETUP-TYPE (other than default), the PCEP speaker
   MUST notify the capability to support the new path setup type during=20
   the session establishment phase. Only if both PCEP peers support the
   capability the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV with new PST be used. "
=20
Editorial Nits
- Expand RSVP-TE, PCEP on first use in abstract=20

Hope the authors find these useful.

Regards,
Dhruv

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> Dear WG,
>=20
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivaba=
lan-
> pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work has considerably progressed in ot=
her
> WG.
>=20
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as=
 a
> PCE WG document ?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> JP and Julien.


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Support.


Brgds,DG
"=C2=A0I've=C2=A0had=C2=A0good seasons and some deeply=C2=A0painful ones.=
=C2=A0I've=C2=A0made=C2=A0some spectacularly=C2=A0good choices and=C2=A0som=
e=C2=A0outrageously bad mistakes. I'm=C2=A0very=C2=A0human - a work in prog=
ress". =C2=A0- Robin Sharma
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=C2=A0

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 Date: Monday, September 15, 2014, 12:17 AM
=20
 Support!
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 Thanks
=20
 Regards =C5=A0 Zafar
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=20
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=20
 >Dear WG,
 >
 >We had several discussions showing a good consensus
 adopting
 >draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work
 >has considerably progressed in other WG.
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 >Are you in favor of adopting
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 >a PCE WG document ?
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 >
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Hi,

A noticed a minor discrepancy of Flags definition between the draft-ietf-pc=
e-pce-initiated-lsp-01
And ietf-pce-stateful-pce

Referring sec 5.3.1 of pce-pce-initiated-lsp-01, following is the definitio=
n of Create flag. And has
Only two bits assigned for operational state.=20

But the definition of the Flags has 3 bits for operational state in section=
 7.3. of ietf-pce-stateful-pce.


5.3.1.  The Create flag

   The LSP object is defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce] and included
   here for easy reference.

      0                   1                   2                   3
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                PLSP-ID                |   Flags |C|  O|A|R|S|D|
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     //                        TLVs                                 //
     |                                                               |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+


-regards
-ramana


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PCE working group,

draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation for RFC
7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group Internet-Draft
that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.

Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not necessary, and
there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.

Steps to be followed:

1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points (see below).

2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
implementations.
2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early allocation of
the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific code
point values.

3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to be
close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code points
allocated.

4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code points.

Current drafts

draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests multiple
unallocated values

Recently-expired drafts

draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values


Thanks,
Adrian


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Hi Adrian,

I think the steps you proposed really make sense.=20

I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you mean tha=
t it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?=20

In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with clash), can I r=
e-order your steps as follows? :-)

1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code point=
s.

2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to =
be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code poi=
nts allocated.




Best Regards

Fatai


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From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
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Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts

PCE working group,

draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation for =
RFC
7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group Internet-D=
raft
that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.

Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not necessary=
, and
there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.

Steps to be followed:

1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points (see be=
low).

2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
implementations.
2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early allocation =
of
the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific cod=
e
point values.

3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to =
be
close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code points
allocated.

4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code point=
s.

Current drafts

draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests multiple
unallocated values

Recently-expired drafts

draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values


Thanks,
Adrian

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Hi,=20

Sorry, I should say (2b) and (4), :-)




Best Regards

Fatai


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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts

Hi Adrian,

I think the steps you proposed really make sense.=20

I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you mean tha=
t it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?=20

In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with clash), can I r=
e-order your steps as follows? :-)

1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code point=
s.

2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to =
be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code poi=
nts allocated.




Best Regards

Fatai


-----Original Message-----
From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts

PCE working group,

draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation for =
RFC
7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group Internet-D=
raft
that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.

Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not necessary=
, and
there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.

Steps to be followed:

1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points (see be=
low).

2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
implementations.
2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early allocation =
of
the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific cod=
e
point values.

3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to =
be
close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code points
allocated.

4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code point=
s.

Current drafts

draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests multiple
unallocated values

Recently-expired drafts

draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values


Thanks,
Adrian

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Fatai,

I agree with you - I also don't think this is only for the PCE
working group but should be applicable to the entire rtg area.

/Loa

On 2014-09-18 10:53, Fatai Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I should say (2b) and (4), :-)
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Fatai
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fatai Zhang
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:32 PM
> To: 'adrian@olddog.co.uk'; pce@ietf.org
> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> I think the steps you proposed really make sense.
>
> I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you mean that it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?
>
> In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with clash), can I re-order your steps as follows? :-)
>
> 1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code points.
>
> 2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code points allocated.
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Fatai
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
>
> PCE working group,
>
> draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation for RFC
> 7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group Internet-Draft
> that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.
>
> Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.
>
> The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
> significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not necessary, and
> there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.
>
> Steps to be followed:
>
> 1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points (see below).
>
> 2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
> implementations.
> 2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early allocation of
> the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
> 2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific code
> point values.
>
> 3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough to be
> close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code points
> allocated.
>
> 4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code points.
>
> Current drafts
>
> draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
> draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests multiple
> unallocated values
>
> Recently-expired drafts
>
> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated values
> draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values
>
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
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Hi all,

   I fully agree with the procedure suggested by Adrian.

   @Fatai. I guess all drafts (stable or not), except those that have an
early allocation, will need to have a TBD value. A suggested value is
usually (mis)interpreted as =B3this is the specified value, though not
official yet=B2

   Best Regards,

        =D3scar

El 18/09/14 13:06, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> escribi=F3:

>Fatai,
>
>I agree with you - I also don't think this is only for the PCE
>working group but should be applicable to the entire rtg area.
>
>/Loa
>
>On 2014-09-18 10:53, Fatai Zhang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, I should say (2b) and (4), :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Fatai
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fatai Zhang
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:32 PM
>> To: 'adrian@olddog.co.uk'; pce@ietf.org
>> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
>>
>> Hi Adrian,
>>
>> I think the steps you proposed really make sense.
>>
>> I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you mean
>>that it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?
>>
>> In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with clash), can
>>I re-order your steps as follows? :-)
>>
>> 1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code
>>points.
>>
>> 2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough
>>to be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get
>>code points allocated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Fatai
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
>> To: pce@ietf.org
>> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
>>
>> PCE working group,
>>
>> draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation
>>for RFC
>> 7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group
>>Internet-Draft
>> that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.
>>
>> Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
>> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.
>>
>> The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
>> significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not
>>necessary, and
>> there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.
>>
>> Steps to be followed:
>>
>> 1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points
>>(see below).
>>
>> 2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
>> implementations.
>> 2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early
>>allocation of
>> the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
>> 2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific
>>code
>> point values.
>>
>> 3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough
>>to be
>> close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code
>>points
>> allocated.
>>
>> 4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code
>>points.
>>
>> Current drafts
>>
>> draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
>> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
>> draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests
>>multiple
>> unallocated values
>>
>> Recently-expired drafts
>>
>> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated
>>values
>> draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adrian
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pce mailing list
>> Pce@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pce mailing list
>> Pce@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
>>
>
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>
>
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Oscar,

yes - true, but there are also FCFS allocations, such a code point
allocation can be made for any document (also an individual draft).

/Loa

On 2014-09-18 13:12, OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>     I fully agree with the procedure suggested by Adrian.
>
>     @Fatai. I guess all drafts (stable or not), except those that have an
> early allocation, will need to have a TBD value. A suggested value is
> usually (mis)interpreted as ³this is the specified value, though not
> official yet²
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>          Óscar
>
> El 18/09/14 13:06, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> escribió:
>
>> Fatai,
>>
>> I agree with you - I also don't think this is only for the PCE
>> working group but should be applicable to the entire rtg area.
>>
>> /Loa
>>
>> On 2014-09-18 10:53, Fatai Zhang wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I should say (2b) and (4), :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Fatai
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Fatai Zhang
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:32 PM
>>> To: 'adrian@olddog.co.uk'; pce@ietf.org
>>> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>>> Subject: RE: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
>>>
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>>
>>> I think the steps you proposed really make sense.
>>>
>>> I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you mean
>>> that it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?
>>>
>>> In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with clash), can
>>> I re-order your steps as follows? :-)
>>>
>>> 1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code
>>> points.
>>>
>>> 2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough
>>> to be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get
>>> code points allocated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Fatai
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
>>> To: pce@ietf.org
>>> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>>> Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
>>>
>>> PCE working group,
>>>
>>> draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation
>>> for RFC
>>> 7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group
>>> Internet-Draft
>>> that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.
>>>
>>> Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
>>> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.
>>>
>>> The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
>>> significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not
>>> necessary, and
>>> there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.
>>>
>>> Steps to be followed:
>>>
>>> 1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points
>>> (see below).
>>>
>>> 2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
>>> implementations.
>>> 2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early
>>> allocation of
>>> the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
>>> 2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific
>>> code
>>> point values.
>>>
>>> 3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough
>>> to be
>>> close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code
>>> points
>>> allocated.
>>>
>>> 4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code
>>> points.
>>>
>>> Current drafts
>>>
>>> draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
>>> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
>>> draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
>>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
>>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests
>>> multiple
>>> unallocated values
>>>
>>> Recently-expired drafts
>>>
>>> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated
>>> values
>>> draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pce mailing list
>>> Pce@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
>>>
>>
>> --
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Right to all of you.

FCFS is already allocated, so that is OK.

TBD is what we want otherwise. That is no "recommendation" and no
"specification".

I would say, however, that sometimes it *is* appropriate to recommend =
values for
IANA when there is a special reason for a particular value, but that =
reason is
not strong enough to do early allocation.

A

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> Oscar,
>=20
> yes - true, but there are also FCFS allocations, such a code point
> allocation can be made for any document (also an individual draft).
>=20
> /Loa
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> On 2014-09-18 13:12, OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >     I fully agree with the procedure suggested by Adrian.
> >
> >     @Fatai. I guess all drafts (stable or not), except those that =
have an
> > early allocation, will need to have a TBD value. A suggested value =
is
> > usually (mis)interpreted as =B3this is the specified value, though =
not
> > official yet=B2
> >
> >     Best Regards,
> >
> >          =D3scar
> >
> > El 18/09/14 13:06, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> escribi=F3:
> >
> >> Fatai,
> >>
> >> I agree with you - I also don't think this is only for the PCE
> >> working group but should be applicable to the entire rtg area.
> >>
> >> /Loa
> >>
> >> On 2014-09-18 10:53, Fatai Zhang wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, I should say (2b) and (4), :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>>
> >>> Fatai
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Fatai Zhang
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:32 PM
> >>> To: 'adrian@olddog.co.uk'; pce@ietf.org
> >>> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> >>> Subject: RE: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
> >>>
> >>> Hi Adrian,
> >>>
> >>> I think the steps you proposed really make sense.
> >>>
> >>> I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you =
mean
> >>> that it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?
> >>>
> >>> In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with =
clash), can
> >>> I re-order your steps as follows? :-)
> >>>
> >>> 1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies =
code
> >>> points.
> >>>
> >>> 2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced =
enough
> >>> to be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to =
get
> >>> code points allocated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>>
> >>> Fatai
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
> >>> To: pce@ietf.org
> >>> Cc: pce-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> >>> Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts
> >>>
> >>> PCE working group,
> >>>
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA =
allocation
> >>> for RFC
> >>> 7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group
> >>> Internet-Draft
> >>> that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.
> >>>
> >>> Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.
> >>>
> >>> The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop =
before
> >>> significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not
> >>> necessary, and
> >>> there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.
> >>>
> >>> Steps to be followed:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code =
points
> >>> (see below).
> >>>
> >>> 2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
> >>> implementations.
> >>> 2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early
> >>> allocation of
> >>> the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
> >>> 2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the =
specific
> >>> code
> >>> point values.
> >>>
> >>> 3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced =
enough
> >>> to be
> >>> close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get =
code
> >>> points
> >>> allocated.
> >>>
> >>> 4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies =
code
> >>> points.
> >>>
> >>> Current drafts
> >>>
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated =
value
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests
> >>> multiple
> >>> unallocated values
> >>>
> >>> Recently-expired drafts
> >>>
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple =
unallocated
> >>> values
> >>> draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated =
values
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Adrian
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Pce mailing list
> >>> Pce@ietf.org
> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Pce mailing list
> >>> Pce@ietf.org
> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
> >> Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
> >> Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64
> >>
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Dear WG,

There is a clear consensus: authors please resubmit as =
draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-00.txt, with no
other change than title, date.

Thanks.

JP.


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> From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com>
> Subject: [Pce] Adoption of draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt =
as a PCE WG Document
> Date: September 14, 2014 at 12:06:24 PM GMT+2
> To: "pce@ietf.org" <pce@ietf.org>
>=20
> Dear WG,
>=20
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting =
draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>=20
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt =
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Dear WG,

There is a clear consensus: authors please resubmit as =
draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-00.txt, with no
other change than title, date.

Thanks.

JP.

On Sep 14, 2014, at 3:54 PM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <jvasseur@cisco.com> =
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>> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting =
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>> Are you in favor of adopting =
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>> JP and Julien.
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WG,<div><br></div><div>There is a clear consensus: authors please =
resubmit as&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-00.txt, with =
no</div><div>other change than title, =
date.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>JP.</div><=
div><br><div><div>On Sep 14, 2014, at 3:54 PM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jvasseur@cisco.com">jvasseur@cisco.com</a>&gt; =
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style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">"JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jvasseur@cisco.com">jvasseur@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br></span></=
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Document</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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>Dear WG,<br><br>We had several discussions showing a good consensus =
adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work<br>has =
considerably progressed in other WG.<br><br>Are you in favor of adopting =
draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as a PCE WG document =
?<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>JP and =
Julien.<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>=
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I support the early allocation of code points in the said draft.

Young

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
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Subject: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pce-gm=
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Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,

The document draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a whi=
le and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There are e=
arly implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to ha=
ve early allocated values to support such implementations.

 Authors of  draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request IAN=
A the early allocation of the code-points included in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions.


We would like to ask PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of co=
de points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

Best Regards,

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<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf=
-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,<=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The document&nbsp;draft-iet=
f-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a while and it is near LC c=
ompletion (the document started in 2010). There are early implementations
 of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to have early allocated v=
alues to support such implementations. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;Authors of &nbsp;draf=
t-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request IANA the early alloc=
ation of the code-points included in&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensi=
ons.&nbsp;</span><span class=3D"apple-tab-span"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">We&nbsp;would like to ask P=
CErs if they see necessary the early allocation of code points in draft-iet=
f-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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Thank you for catching this, we had fixed this in the base draft and not
the initiation one, will be fixed in the next revision.

Ina

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Ramana Yarlagadda <ryarlaga@juniper.net>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A noticed a minor discrepancy of Flags definition between the
> draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-01
> And ietf-pce-stateful-pce
>
> Referring sec 5.3.1 of pce-pce-initiated-lsp-01, following is the
> definition of Create flag. And has
> Only two bits assigned for operational state.
>
> But the definition of the Flags has 3 bits for operational state in
> section 7.3. of ietf-pce-stateful-pce.
>
>
> 5.3.1.  The Create flag
>
>    The LSP object is defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce] and included
>    here for easy reference.
>
>       0                   1                   2                   3
>       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |                PLSP-ID                |   Flags |C|  O|A|R|S|D|
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      //                        TLVs                                 //
>      |                                                               |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you for catching this, we had fixed this in the base=
 draft and not the initiation one, will be fixed in the next revision.=C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Ina=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Ramana Yarlagad=
da <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryarlaga@juniper.net" target=3D"=
_blank">ryarlaga@juniper.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
A noticed a minor discrepancy of Flags definition between the draft-ietf-pc=
e-pce-initiated-lsp-01<br>
And ietf-pce-stateful-pce<br>
<br>
Referring sec 5.3.1 of pce-pce-initiated-lsp-01, following is the definitio=
n of Create flag. And has<br>
Only two bits assigned for operational state.<br>
<br>
But the definition of the Flags has 3 bits for operational state in section=
 7.3. of ietf-pce-stateful-pce.<br>
<br>
<br>
5.3.1.=C2=A0 The Create flag<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The LSP object is defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce] and i=
ncluded<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0here for easy reference.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A03<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 =
7 8 9 0 1<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=
-+-+-+-+-+<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 PLSP-ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Flags |C|=C2=A0 O|A|R|S|D|<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=
-+-+-+-+-+<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0//=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLVs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0//<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=
-+-+-+-+-+<br>
<br>
<br>
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The chairs might forgive me for jumping in since I am on a crusade...
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I must ask, why are you asking for the code points that are in the draft
already, and how will you handle the clash between those codepoints and =
the ones
already allocated and present in the registry?
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I must also ask whether there are any plans to refresh the draft which =
expired
over a month ago.
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Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,
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The document draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a =
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and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There are =
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implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to have =
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 Authors of  draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request =
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early allocation of the code-points included in
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.=20
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We would like to ask PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of =
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for jumping in since I am on a crusade...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>I must ask, why are you asking =
for the code points that are in the draft already, and how will you =
handle the clash between those codepoints and the ones already allocated =
and present in the registry?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>I must also ask whether there =
are any plans to refresh the draft which expired over a month =
ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
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Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> Pce =
[mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE =
DIOS<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2014 13:52<br><b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org; =
pce-chairs@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Ask for early allocation of =
code-points of =
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>Dear PCE WG chairs, =
PCErs,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
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Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>The =
document&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a =
while and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There =
are early implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high =
value to have early allocated values to support such implementations. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>&nbsp;Authors of =
&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request IANA =
the early allocation of the code-points included =
in&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.&nbsp;<span =
class=3Dapple-tab-span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><p =
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Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>We&nbsp;would like to ask =
PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of code points in =
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
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Hi Adrian,

We are asking for early allocation of code-points for draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions. In the draft there are several suggested values. Considera=
tions:

1) At least one of the values clashes with existing RFC, so it is NOT valid=
.  As damage (a clash of one value) is already there, we want to solve it a=
s soon as possible. It will imply a new code point for the clashed value. A=
nd it will impact existing implementations. But, better fix it NOW and get =
an stable code, rather than waiting.

2) There is NO GUARANTEE that the suggested values that do not have clash w=
on't have a clash later. Some documents move faster than others, and then n=
umbers are assigned and clash happens. Thus, in sake of stability, and give=
n that there are early implementations that might get affected of such kind=
 of code-points move, we ask IANA to provide us codes that do not have clas=
hes with existing RFCs, and that when other documents get their codes, they=
 do not clash with the ones of the draft (as it may still take a while to b=
ecome RFC).


I hope I am clear enough with what we are asking and why we are asking it.

=D3scar


De: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>>
Responder a: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.u=
k>>
Fecha: viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2014 10:08
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:os=
car.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>, "pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <p=
ce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>, "pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chairs@i=
etf.org>" <pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pce=
-gmpls-pcep-extensions

The chairs might forgive me for jumping in since I am on a crusade...

I must ask, why are you asking for the code points that are in the draft al=
ready, and how will you handle the clash between those codepoints and the o=
nes already allocated and present in the registry?

I must also ask whether there are any plans to refresh the draft which expi=
red over a month ago.

Adrian

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
Sent: 18 September 2014 13:52
To: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>; pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chair=
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Subject: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pce-gm=
pls-pcep-extensions

Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,

The document draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a whi=
le and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There are e=
arly implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to ha=
ve early allocated values to support such implementations.

 Authors of  draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request IAN=
A the early allocation of the code-points included in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions.

We would like to ask PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of co=
de points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

Best Regards,

=D3scar



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<div>Hi Adrian,</div>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>We are=
 asking for early allocation of code-points for&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-p=
cep-extensions. In the draft there are several suggested values. Considerat=
ions:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>1) At =
least one of the values clashes with existing RFC, so it is NOT valid. &nbs=
p;As damage (a clash of one value) is already there, we want to solve it as=
 soon as possible. It will imply a new code
 point for the clashed value. And it will impact existing implementations. =
But, better fix it NOW and get an stable code, rather than waiting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>2) The=
re is NO GUARANTEE that the suggested values that do not have clash won&#82=
17;t have a clash later. Some documents move faster than others, and then n=
umbers are assigned and clash happens. Thus,
 in sake of stability, and given that there are early implementations that =
might get affected of such kind of code-points move, we ask IANA to provide=
 us codes that do not have clashes with existing RFCs, and that when other =
documents get their codes, they
 do not clash with the ones of the draft (as it may still take a while to b=
ecome RFC).</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>I hope=
 I am clear enough with what we are asking and why we are asking it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>=D3sca=
r&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">De: </span>'Adrian Farrel' &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Responder a: </span>'Adrian Farrel' &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Fecha: </span>viernes, 19 de septiembre de=
 2014 10:08<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Para: </span>Oscar Gonzalez de Dios &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com">oscar.gonzalezdedios@t=
elefonica.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</=
a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&gt;,
 &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Asunto: </span>RE: [Pce] Ask for early all=
ocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The chairs might forgive me for jum=
ping in since I am on a crusade...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
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, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I must ask, why are you asking for =
the code points that are in the draft already, and how will you handle the =
clash between those codepoints and the
 ones already allocated and present in the registry?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I must also ask whether there are a=
ny plans to refresh the draft which expired over a month ago.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fo=
nt-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Pce [<a href=3D"mai=
lto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2014 13:52<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mai=
lto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">
pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf=
-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">The document&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-=
extensions has been stable for a while and it is near LC completion (the do=
cument started in 2010). There are early
 implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to have e=
arly allocated values to support such implementations. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;Authors of &nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions would like to request IANA the early allocation of the code=
-points included in&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.&nbsp;<span c=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">We&nbsp;would like to ask PCErs if they see =
necessary the early allocation of code points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-=
extensions.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
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Title: IETF PCE WG's Response to Liaision from IEEE 802.1 on August 11
Submission Date: 2014-09-19
URL of the IETF Web page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1352/

From: Path Computation Element (Julien Meuric <julien.meuric@orange.com>)
To: IEEE 802.1 (glenn.parsons@ericsson.com)
Cc: jpv@cisco.com,adrian@olddog.co.uk,akatlas@gmail.com,pce@ietf.org,Eric.Gray@Ericsson.com
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Purpose: In response
Referenced liaison: Liaison from IEEE 802.1 to IETF PCE WG  (http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1344/)
Body: Thank you for your recent liaison about the potential use of PCE in your 802.1 work. We are pleased to hear that the technology developed within the IETF may have broader applicability.

We would be pleased to receive liaisons from you about work that involves PCE and will bring any documents you send us to the attention of the PCE working group for participants to review and send feedback direct to the relevant part of 802.1. We would, of course, also be happy to answer any questions concerning how the PCE communication Protocol works and how the PCE architecture hangs together.

As you will notice from the IANA registry for PCEP (https://www.iana.org/assignments/pcep/pcep.xhtml) code points can be allocated predominately only through the process called "IETF Review". Please see RFC 5226 for a full definition of this process, but in summary it requires the publication of an RFC that has IETF consensus. Therefore, if you identify the need for protocol extensions to PCEP in support of your work, the best approach will be to bring the requirements to the IETF in the form of an Internet-Draft and then to work within the PCE working group to develop the solution mechanisms (i.e., protocol extensions). This will ensure that any modifications to the protocol are consistent with the way the protocol was designed to work, and that there are no problems allocating the necessary code points.

Looking forward to hearing more about this work,

JP Vasseur and Julien Meuric
(PCE Working Group Chairs)
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Support.

Cheers,
-Mohan

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <jvasseur@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
> draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Support.<br><br>Cheers,<br></div>-Mohan<br></div><div=
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at 6:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j=
vasseur@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">jvasseur@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear WG,<br>
<br>
We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work<br>
has considerably progressed in other WG.<br>
<br>
Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt as =
a PCE WG document ?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
JP and Julien.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-segment-routing-03.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <jvasseur@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Dear WG,
>
> We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting
> draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work
> has considerably progressed in other WG.
>
> Are you in favor of adopting draft-sivabalan-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt as
> a PCE WG document ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JP and Julien.
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Support.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>-Mohan<br=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun=
, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:jvasseur@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">jvasseur@cisco.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear WG,<br>
<br>
We had several discussions showing a good consensus adopting draft-sivabala=
n-pce-lsp-setup-type-02.txt and this work<br>
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Thanks.<br>
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 This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) Management Information Base (MIB) Module
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                          Emile Stephan
                          Quintin Zhao
                          Daniel King
                          Jonathan Hardwick
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This version of the PCEP MIB addresses your recent comments.  Thanks again =
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                          Emile Stephan
                          Quintin Zhao
                          Daniel King
                          Jonathan Hardwick
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I completely understand why you are asking. And I support that given the
implementations and assuming that the I-D is sufficiently stable.
=20
I do not understand what you asking :-(
=20
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has expired. The IANA cannot make =
early
allocations for it.
The old version of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions contains =
specific code
points that IANA cannot allocate (as you observe).
=20
What you need to do is...
1. Update the IANA section of the draft so that it is clean
2. Refresh the draft
3. Confirm with the chairs that this version is stable and meets other
requirements of 7120
4. Ask the chairs for early allocation (and then they will confirm with =
me)
5. Update the I-D (again) once the code points have been assigned
6. Remove all explicit, unassigned code points from other I-Ds you =
co-author
7. Make a solemn vow never to put unassigned code points in an I-D
=20
Cheers,
Adrian
=20
From: OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS =
[mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com]=20
Sent: 19 September 2014 11:02
To: Adrian Farrel; pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
=20
Hi Adrian,
=20
We are asking for early allocation of code-points for
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions. In the draft there are several =
suggested
values. Considerations:
=20
1) At least one of the values clashes with existing RFC, so it is NOT =
valid.  As
damage (a clash of one value) is already there, we want to solve it as =
soon as
possible. It will imply a new code point for the clashed value. And it =
will
impact existing implementations. But, better fix it NOW and get an =
stable code,
rather than waiting.
=20
2) There is NO GUARANTEE that the suggested values that do not have =
clash won=92t
have a clash later. Some documents move faster than others, and then =
numbers are
assigned and clash happens. Thus, in sake of stability, and given that =
there are
early implementations that might get affected of such kind of =
code-points move,
we ask IANA to provide us codes that do not have clashes with existing =
RFCs, and
that when other documents get their codes, they do not clash with the =
ones of
the draft (as it may still take a while to become RFC).
  =20
=20
I hope I am clear enough with what we are asking and why we are asking =
it.
=20
=D3scar=20
=20
=20
De: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Responder a: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Fecha: viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2014 10:08
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>,
"pce@ietf.org" <pce@ietf.org>, "pce-chairs@ietf.org" =
<pce-chairs@ietf.org>
Asunto: RE: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
=20
The chairs might forgive me for jumping in since I am on a crusade...
=20
I must ask, why are you asking for the code points that are in the draft
already, and how will you handle the clash between those codepoints and =
the ones
already allocated and present in the registry?
=20
I must also ask whether there are any plans to refresh the draft which =
expired
over a month ago.
=20
Adrian
=20
From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE =
DIOS
Sent: 18 September 2014 13:52
To: pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
=20
Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,
=20
The document draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a =
while
and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There are =
early
implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to have =
early
allocated values to support such implementations. =20
=20
 Authors of  draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request =
IANA the
early allocation of the code-points included in
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.=20
=20
We would like to ask PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of =
code
points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.=20
=20
Best Regards,
=20
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=20
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=20
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-GB link=3Dblue =
vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'tab-interval:36.0pt'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>I completely understand why you are asking. And I =
support that given the implementations and assuming that the I-D is =
sufficiently stable.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>I do not understand what you asking =
:-(<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has expired. =
The IANA cannot make early allocations for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>The old version of =
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions contains specific code points that =
IANA cannot allocate (as you observe).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>What you need to do is...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>1. Update the IANA section of the draft so that it =
is clean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>2. Refresh the draft<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>3. Confirm with the chairs that this version is =
stable and meets other requirements of 7120<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>4. Ask the chairs for early allocation (and then =
they will confirm with me)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>5. Update the I-D (again) once the code points =
have been assigned<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>6. Remove all explicit, unassigned code points =
from other I-Ds you co-author<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>7. Make a solemn vow never to put unassigned code =
points in an I-D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-f=
ont-family:"Times New =
Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> OSCAR GONZALEZ DE =
DIOS [mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 19 =
September 2014 11:02<br><b>To:</b> Adrian Farrel; pce@ietf.org; =
pce-chairs@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pce] Ask for early =
allocation of code-points of =
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>Hi =
Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>We are asking for early =
allocation of code-points for&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions. =
In the draft there are several suggested values. =
Considerations:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>1) At least one of the values =
clashes with existing RFC, so it is NOT valid. &nbsp;As damage (a clash =
of one value) is already there, we want to solve it as soon as possible. =
It will imply a new code point for the clashed value. And it will impact =
existing implementations. But, better fix it NOW and get an stable code, =
rather than waiting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>2) There is NO GUARANTEE that =
the suggested values that do not have clash won&#8217;t have a clash =
later. Some documents move faster than others, and then numbers are =
assigned and clash happens. Thus, in sake of stability, and given that =
there are early implementations that might get affected of such kind of =
code-points move, we ask IANA to provide us codes that do not have =
clashes with existing RFCs, and that when other documents get their =
codes, they do not clash with the ones of the draft (as it may still =
take a while to become RFC).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>I hope I am clear enough with =
what we are asking and why we are asking =
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'>=D3scar&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>De: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>'Adrian Farrel' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;<br><b>Res=
ponder a: </b>'Adrian Farrel' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;<br><b>Fec=
ha: </b>viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2014 10:08<br><b>Para: </b>Oscar =
Gonzalez de Dios &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com">oscar.gonzalezdedios@=
telefonica.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a =
href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a =
href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><b>Asu=
nto: </b>RE: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of =
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-=
font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The chairs might forgive me for jumping in since I am on a =
crusade...</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I must ask, why are you asking for the code points that are in the =
draft already, and how will you handle the clash between those =
codepoints and the ones already allocated and present in the =
registry?</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I must also ask whether there are any plans to refresh the draft =
which expired over a month ago.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Adrian</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black;m=
so-ansi-language:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black;m=
so-ansi-language:EN-US'> Pce [<a =
href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 September =
2014 13:52<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of =
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>The document&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable =
for a while and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). =
There are early implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of =
high value to have early allocated values to support such =
implementations. &nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>&nbsp;Authors of &nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like =
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Hi Adrian.

I believe that when Oscar mentions "early allocation", he implicitly 
includes a refresh of the I-D as part of the process. This should 
address steps 1 and 2.

Following a private discussion, 3-4-5 are being considered. Oscar's 
message below was a move to allow to judge the consensus as mentioned in 
RFC 7120.

6 and 7 are new requirements, I leave them to Oscar (and associated 
authors)...

Regards,

Julien


Sep. 23, 2014 - Adrian Farrel:
> I completely understand why you are asking. And I support that given the
> implementations and assuming that the I-D is sufficiently stable.
>
> I do not understand what you asking :-(
>
> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has expired. The IANA cannot make
> early allocations for it.
>
> The old version of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions contains
> specific code points that IANA cannot allocate (as you observe).
>
> What you need to do is...
>
> 1. Update the IANA section of the draft so that it is clean
>
> 2. Refresh the draft
>
> 3. Confirm with the chairs that this version is stable and meets other
> requirements of 7120
>
> 4. Ask the chairs for early allocation (and then they will confirm with me)
>
> 5. Update the I-D (again) once the code points have been assigned
>
> 6. Remove all explicit, unassigned code points from other I-Ds you co-author
>
> 7. Make a solemn vow never to put unassigned code points in an I-D
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
> *From:*OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS [mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com]
> *Sent:* 19 September 2014 11:02
> *To:* Adrian Farrel; pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of
> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> We are asking for early allocation of code-points
> for draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions. In the draft there are several
> suggested values. Considerations:
>
> 1) At least one of the values clashes with existing RFC, so it is NOT
> valid.  As damage (a clash of one value) is already there, we want to
> solve it as soon as possible. It will imply a new code point for the
> clashed value. And it will impact existing implementations. But, better
> fix it NOW and get an stable code, rather than waiting.
>
> 2) There is NO GUARANTEE that the suggested values that do not have
> clash won’t have a clash later. Some documents move faster than others,
> and then numbers are assigned and clash happens. Thus, in sake of
> stability, and given that there are early implementations that might get
> affected of such kind of code-points move, we ask IANA to provide us
> codes that do not have clashes with existing RFCs, and that when other
> documents get their codes, they do not clash with the ones of the draft
> (as it may still take a while to become RFC).
>
> I hope I am clear enough with what we are asking and why we are asking it.
>
> Óscar
>
> *De: *'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>>
> *Responder a: *'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk
> <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>>
> *Fecha: *viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2014 10:08
> *Para: *Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com
> <mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>, "pce@ietf.org
> <mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <pce@ietf.org <mailto:pce@ietf.org>>,
> "pce-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>" <pce-chairs@ietf.org
> <mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>>
> *Asunto: *RE: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of
> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
>
> The chairs might forgive me for jumping in since I am on a crusade...
>
> I must ask, why are you asking for the code points that are in the draft
> already, and how will you handle the clash between those codepoints and
> the ones already allocated and present in the registry?
>
> I must also ask whether there are any plans to refresh the draft which
> expired over a month ago.
>
> Adrian
>
> *From:*Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *OSCAR GONZALEZ
> DE DIOS
> *Sent:* 18 September 2014 13:52
> *To:* pce@ietf.org <mailto:pce@ietf.org>; pce-chairs@ietf.org
> <mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of
> draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
>
> Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,
>
> The document draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a
> while and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There
> are early implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high
> value to have early allocated values to support such implementations.
>
>   Authors of  draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request
> IANA the early allocation of the code-points included
> in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.
>
> We would like to ask PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of
> code points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Óscar
>
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Hi Adrian, all

I completely understand why you are asking. And I support that given the im=
plementations and assuming that the I-D is sufficiently stable.

I do not understand what you asking :-(

[Oscar] We asked the WG chairs advice on how to proceed with draft-ietf-pce=
-gmpls-pcep-extensions and if we could request early allocation of code-poi=
nts. PCE WG chairs told us, regarding the early allocation, that there was =
not yet consensus on the matter.  I was trying to build that consensus by a=
sking in the PCE WG list if people considered necessary requesting early al=
location, as early allocation needs per 7120 sufficient interest in the com=
munity.

 draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has expired. The IANA cannot make ear=
ly allocations for it.
The old version of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions contains specific c=
ode points that IANA cannot allocate (as you observe).

[Oscar] We have a new version of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions ready=
 to submit addressing last call comments and all IANA values removed.

What you need to do is...
1. Update the IANA section of the draft so that it is clean
2. Refresh the draft
3. Confirm with the chairs that this version is stable and meets other requ=
irements of 7120
4. Ask the chairs for early allocation (and then they will confirm with me)
5. Update the I-D (again) once the code points have been assigned
6. Remove all explicit, unassigned code points from other I-Ds you co-autho=
r
7. Make a solemn vow never to put unassigned code points in an I-D

[Oscar] We will start with 1 & 2 (without values in IANA section).

Cheers,
Adrian

Best Regards,

Oscar

From: OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS [mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com]
Sent: 19 September 2014 11:02
To: Adrian Farrel; pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>; pce-chairs@ietf.org<m=
ailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pc=
e-gmpls-pcep-extensions

Hi Adrian,

We are asking for early allocation of code-points for draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions. In the draft there are several suggested values. Considera=
tions:

1) At least one of the values clashes with existing RFC, so it is NOT valid=
.  As damage (a clash of one value) is already there, we want to solve it a=
s soon as possible. It will imply a new code point for the clashed value. A=
nd it will impact existing implementations. But, better fix it NOW and get =
an stable code, rather than waiting.

2) There is NO GUARANTEE that the suggested values that do not have clash w=
on=92t have a clash later. Some documents move faster than others, and then=
 numbers are assigned and clash happens. Thus, in sake of stability, and gi=
ven that there are early implementations that might get affected of such ki=
nd of code-points move, we ask IANA to provide us codes that do not have cl=
ashes with existing RFCs, and that when other documents get their codes, th=
ey do not clash with the ones of the draft (as it may still take a while to=
 become RFC).


I hope I am clear enough with what we are asking and why we are asking it.

=D3scar


De: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>>
Responder a: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.u=
k>>
Fecha: viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2014 10:08
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:os=
car.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>, "pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <p=
ce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>, "pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chairs@i=
etf.org>" <pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pce=
-gmpls-pcep-extensions

The chairs might forgive me for jumping in since I am on a crusade...

I must ask, why are you asking for the code points that are in the draft al=
ready, and how will you handle the clash between those codepoints and the o=
nes already allocated and present in the registry?

I must also ask whether there are any plans to refresh the draft which expi=
red over a month ago.

Adrian

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
Sent: 18 September 2014 13:52
To: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>; pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chair=
s@ietf.org>
Subject: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf-pce-gm=
pls-pcep-extensions

Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,

The document draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions has been stable for a whi=
le and it is near LC completion (the document started in 2010). There are e=
arly implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to ha=
ve early allocated values to support such implementations.

 Authors of  draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions would like to request IAN=
A the early allocation of the code-points included in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions.

We would like to ask PCErs if they see necessary the early allocation of co=
de points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

Best Regards,

=D3scar



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I completely understand why you are=
 asking. And I support that given the implementations and assuming that the=
 I-D is sufficiently stable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">I do not und=
erstand what you asking :-(</span></div>
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</div>
<div>[Oscar] We asked the WG chairs advice on how to proceed with draft-iet=
f-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions and if we could request early allocation of cod=
e-points. PCE WG chairs told us, regarding the early allocation, that there=
 was not yet consensus on the matter.
 &nbsp;I was trying to build that consensus by asking in the PCE WG list if=
 people considered necessary requesting early allocation, as early allocati=
on needs per 7120 sufficient interest in the community.&nbsp;</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
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=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
1pt;">draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions
 has expired. The IANA cannot make early allocations for it.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The old version of draft-ietf-pce-g=
mpls-pcep-extensions contains specific code points that IANA cannot allocat=
e (as you observe).</span></p>
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<div>[Oscar] We have a new version of&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extens=
ions ready to submit addressing last call comments and all IANA values remo=
ved.</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What you need to do is...<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">1. Update the IANA section of the d=
raft so that it is clean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">2. Refresh the draft<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">3. Confirm with the chairs that thi=
s version is stable and meets other requirements of 7120<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">4. Ask the chairs for early allocat=
ion (and then they will confirm with me)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">5. Update the I-D (again) once the =
code points have been assigned<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">6. Remove all explicit, unassigned =
code points from other I-Ds you co-author<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">7. Make a solemn vow never to put u=
nassigned code points in an I-D<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>[Oscar] We will start with 1 &amp; 2 (without values in IANA section).=
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<div>Best Regards,</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fo=
nt-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> OSCAR GONZALEZ DE D=
IOS [<a href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com">mailto:oscar.go=
nzalezdedios@telefonica.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 September 2014 11:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Farrel; <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>;=
 <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">
pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-=
ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">Hi Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">We are asking for early allocation of code-p=
oints for&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions. In the draft there are=
 several suggested values. Considerations:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">1) At least one of the values clashes with e=
xisting RFC, so it is NOT valid. &nbsp;As damage (a clash of one value) is =
already there, we want to solve it as soon
 as possible. It will imply a new code point for the clashed value. And it =
will impact existing implementations. But, better fix it NOW and get an sta=
ble code, rather than waiting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">2) There is NO GUARANTEE that the suggested =
values that do not have clash won=92t have a clash later. Some documents mo=
ve faster than others, and then numbers
 are assigned and clash happens. Thus, in sake of stability, and given that=
 there are early implementations that might get affected of such kind of co=
de-points move, we ask IANA to provide us codes that do not have clashes wi=
th existing RFCs, and that when
 other documents get their codes, they do not clash with the ones of the dr=
aft (as it may still take a while to become RFC).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">I hope I am clear enough with what we are as=
king and why we are asking it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">=D3scar&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif; color: black;">De:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
; color: black;">'Adrian Farrel' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"=
>adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Responder a: </b>'Adrian Farrel' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.=
uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Fecha: </b>viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2014 10:08<br>
<b>Para: </b>Oscar Gonzalez de Dios &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezded=
ios@telefonica.com">oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pc=
e@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.o=
rg">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Asunto: </b>RE: [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-i=
etf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The chairs might forgive me for jum=
ping in since I am on a crusade...</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I must ask, why are you asking for =
the code points that are in the draft already, and how will you handle the =
clash between those codepoints and the
 ones already allocated and present in the registry?</span><span style=3D"c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I must also ask whether there are a=
ny plans to refresh the draft which expired over a month ago.</span><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Adrian</span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fo=
nt-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: b=
lack;"> Pce [<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bounces@iet=
f.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2014 13:52<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mai=
lto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">
pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Ask for early allocation of code-points of draft-ietf=
-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear PCE WG chairs, PCErs,</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">The document&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-=
extensions has been stable for a while and it is near LC completion (the do=
cument started in 2010). There are early
 implementations of the draft. In my opinion, it is of high value to have e=
arly allocated values to support such implementations. &nbsp;</span><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;Authors of &nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-=
pcep-extensions would like to request IANA the early allocation of the code=
-points included in&nbsp;draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.&nbsp;</span>=
<span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">We&nbsp;would like to ask PCErs if they see =
necessary the early allocation of code points in draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-=
extensions.&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">Best Regards,</span><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">=D3scar</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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ri, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG
(pce) to consider the following document:
- 'Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) Management
   Information Base (MIB) Module'
  <draft-ietf-pce-pcep-mib-10.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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Abstract

   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
   for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
   In particular, it describes managed objects for modeling of Path
   Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications
   between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation
   Element (PCE), or between two PCEs.

The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-mib/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-mib/ballot/


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