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Hi Venu,

 

We have updated the draft to handle y= our comments.

See inline [Dhruv2] =A1=AD=

 

From: Pce [mai= lto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody
Sent: 27 October 2015 12:53
To: Venugopal Reddy K
Cc: draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth@ietf.org; pce
Subject: Re: [Pce] Few queries regarding draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pc= e-auto-bandwidth-06 draft

 

Hi Venu,

 

Thanks for reading the draft and post= ing queries.

 

See inline=A1=AD

 

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Venugopal Reddy K
Sent: 26 October 2015 14:39
To: draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth@ietf.org; pce
Subject: [Pce] Few queries regarding draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-au= to-bandwidth-06 draft

 

Dear Authors,

 

I have few queries regarding draft-dhody-pce-statefu= l-pce-auto-bandwidth-06.

 

1.     &= nbsp; We have Overflow-Count, Overflow-Threshold and Unde= rflow-Count, Underflow-Threshold to expedite the process of PCC adjusting t= he bandwidth instead of waiting for Adjustment-Interval when an abrupt chan= ge in bandwidth usage occurs. Similarly, we have Report-Flow-Threshold value for a PCC to report for PCE adjusting = bandwidth model instead of waiting for Report-Interval. Can we know if ther= e is rationale behind having different method for PCC controlling bandwidth= adjustment and PCE controlling bandwidth adjustment for this case? Why not have the similar mechanism for= it ?

 

 

[Dhruv]: Are you askin= g why we don=A1=AFt have a =A1=B0Report-Flow-Count=A1=B1 (similar to Underf= low and overflow-count)? Hmm, I guess =A1=B0Report-Flow-Count=A1=B1 can be = added, it is a good suggestion.

This would indicate ho= w many times consecutively, the percentage or absolute difference between t= he current bandwidth sample and the current bandwidth reservation should be= greater than or equal to the report-flow-threshold value, for all the bandwidth samples collected so far to be reported to th= e PCE immediately.

 

[Dhruv2]: Report-Flow-Count is added = in Bandwidth-Usage-Report-Flow-Threshold sub-TLV and Bandwidth-Usage-Report= -Flow-Threshold-Percent sub-TLV

 

   Report-Flow-Count:  This value is used to decide w= hen the bandwidth

      usage collected so far should be repo= rted when there is a sudden

      change in bandwidth usage.  This= value indicates how many times

      consecutively, the percentage or abso= lute difference between the

      current bandwidth sample and the curr= ent bandwidth reservation is

      greater than or equal to the Report-F= low-Threshold value, all the

      bandwidth samples collected so far ar= e reported to the PCE

      immediately.

 

       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth-07#= section-5.3.4

 

 

2.     &= nbsp; Once auto-bandwidth adjustment is enabled for an LS= P, Couldn=A1=AFt find any way to disable auto adjustment feature for an LSP= . It would be good to have a means to disable adjustment without bringing t= he LSP down.  Also, changing auto-bandwidth adjustment mode from PCC to PCE or vice versa without LSP down.=

 

[Dhruv]: I think this = could be useful, will discuss with my co-authors and add mechanism for this= in future revision.   

 

[Dhruv2]: I have added support for th= is =A8C

 

   The TLV is encoded in all PCEP messages for the LSP til= l the auto

   bandwidth adjustment feature is enabled, the absence of= the TLV

   indicate the PCEP speaker wish to disable the feature.<= o:p>

 

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dhody-= pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth-07#section-5.2

 

   The TLV is encoded in all PCEP messages for the LSP til= l the

   bandwidth usage reporting feature is enabled, the absen= ce of the TLV

   indicate the PCEP speaker wish to disable this feature.=

 

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dhody-= pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth-07#section-5.3

 

 

Thanks for your comments and review!

 

Regards,

Dhruv

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Dhruv

 

Could you please clarify.

 

Thanks J

 

Regards,

Venu

 

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Hi WG,

We have updated the= Auto-BW draft [1], (see diff [2]).

The main changes ar= e =A8C

(1)  Auto-BW capability= advertisement for this extension [3]

(2)  Suppor= t for Report-Flow-Count and disabling of feature [4]

(3)  Other = changes of editorial nature

With this update, we do not have any other op= en issue and the draft is ripe for WG adoption.

We would welcome further comments as well as = a note on the list if you have read and believe that this work is suitable = to be worked on by the WG (as suggested during Yokohama meeting [5])    =

Thanks!<= /o:p>

Authors 

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidt= h/

[2] https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-dhody-pce-stateful-pce-auto-ban= dwidth-07.txt

[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/wgyOoVAaNVs9OVDg56IXNJV8ps= s

[4] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/5ZzgwqKrm_u7AVyBZ6Qq4hjDIW= k

[5] https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/minutes/minutes-94-pce

 

 

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X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 20:28:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF. Title : Secure Transport for PCEP Authors : Diego R. Lopez Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Qin Wu Dhruv Dhody Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pceps-08.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2016-03-06 Abstract: The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defines the mechanisms for the communication between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or among PCEs. This document describe the usage of Transport Layer Security (TLS) to enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed for it. The additional security mechanisms are provided by the transport protocol supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect the flexibility and extensibility of PCEP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pceps-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pceps-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 7 01:20:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AA01B3CFF for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 01:20:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.885 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.885 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i4kXF_mqr1Ka for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 01:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (p-mail2.rd.orange.com [161.106.1.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965A51B3CFE for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 01:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D868E30080 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 10:20:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.194.32.11]) by p-mail2.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95218E3007C for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 10:20:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.204] (10.193.71.204) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.266.1; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 10:20:25 +0100 To: "pce@ietf.org" From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Message-ID: <56DD47D9.90302@orange.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 10:20:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 95 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Julien Meuric , Jonathan Hardwick , 'JP Vasseur' , Daniel King List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:20:27 -0000 Dear PCE WG, In the preliminary agenda for Buenos Aires, PCE is tentatively scheduled on Wednesday at 2pm. If you believe that you need a slot during our meeting, please send a request to the chairs and secretary, including: - the corresponding I-D(s), - an expected duration, - the proposed speaker, - the justification for using face to face time, as opposed to triggering a discussion using the mailing list. Thanks, Jon, JP & Julien From nobody Mon Mar 7 04:53:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2881B4074 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 04:53:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.415 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.415 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MANGLED_TRNFER=2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sEmuXy8RNliD for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 04:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (p-mail2.rd.orange.com [161.106.1.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408D01B2C34 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 04:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 64C7BE30080 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:53:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.194.32.11]) by p-mail2.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B9CE3007F for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:53:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.204] (10.193.71.204) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.266.1; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:53:28 +0100 References: <20160304163831.5152.430.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "pce@ietf.org" From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20160304163831.5152.430.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <56DD79C8.2090101@orange.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:53:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160304163831.5152.430.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Fwd: WG Action: Rechartered IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6tisch) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:53:32 -0000 F.Y.I.: the 6tisch WG has just been rechartered, "PCE" is explicitly mentioned. Julien -------- Message transféré -------- Date : Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:38:31 -0800 De : The IESG The IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6tisch) WG in the Internet Area of the IETF has been rechartered. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs. IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6tisch) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Current status: Active WG Chairs: Pascal Thubert Thomas Watteyne Assigned Area Director: Brian Haberman Internet Area Directors: Brian Haberman Terry Manderson Mailing list: Address: 6tisch@ietf.org To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/6tisch/ Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-6tisch/ 6TiSCH: "IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e". Background/Introduction: ------------------------ Low-power and Lossy Networks (LLNs) interconnect a possibly large number of resource-constrained nodes to form a wireless mesh network. The 6LoWPAN, ROLL and CoRE IETF Working Groups have defined protocols at various layers of the protocol stack, including an IPv6 adaptation layer, a routing protocol and a web transfer protocol. This protocol stack has been used with IEEE802.15.4 low-power radios. The Timeslotted Channel Hopping (TSCH) mode was introduced in 2012 as an amendment to the Medium Access Control (MAC) portion of the IEEE802.15.4 standard. TSCH is the emerging standard for industrial automation and process control LLNs, with a direct inheritance from WirelessHART and ISA100.11a. Defining IPv6 over TSCH, 6TiSCH is a key to enable the further adoption of IPv6 in industrial standards and the convergence of Operational Technology (OT) with Information Technology (IT). The nodes in a IEEE802.15.4 TSCH network communicate by following a Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA) schedule. A timeslot in this schedule provides a unit of bandwidth that is allocated for communication between neighbor nodes. The allocation can be programmed such that the predictable transmission pattern matches the traffic. This avoids idle listening, and extends battery lifetime for constrained nodes. Channel-hopping improves reliability in the presence of narrow- band interference and multi-path fading. These techniques enable a new range of use cases for LLNs, including: - Control loops in a wireless process control network, in which high reliability and a fully deterministic behavior are required. - Service Provider networks transporting data from different independent clients, and for which an operator needs flow isolation and traffic shaping. - Networks comprising energy harvesting nodes, which require an extremely low and predictable average power consumption. IEEE802.15.4 only defines the link-layer mechanisms. It does not define how the network communication schedule is built and matched to the traffic requirements of the network. Description of Working Group: ----------------------------- The Working Group will focus on enabling IPv6 over the TSCH mode of the IEEE802.15.4 standard. The extent of the problem space for the WG is one or more LLNs, possibly federated through a common backbone link via one or more LLN Border Routers (LBRs). The WG will rely on, and if necessary extend, existing mechanisms for authenticating LBRs. Initially, the WG has limited its scope to distributed routing over a static schedule using the Routing Protocol for LLNs (RPL) on the resulting network. This new charter allows for the dynamic allocation of cells and their exchange between adjacent peers to accommodate the available bandwidth to the variations of throughput in IP traffic. The WG will continue working on securing the join process and making that fit within the constraints of high latency, low throughput and small frame sizes that characterize IEEE802.15.4 TSCH. Additionally, IEEE802.15.4 TSCH being a deterministic MAC, it is envisioned that 6TiSCH will benefit from the work of DetNet WG to establish the so-called deterministic tracks. The group will define the objects and methods that need to be configured, and provide the associated requirements to DetNet. The WG will interface with other appropriate groups in the IETF Internet, Operations and Management, Routing and Security areas. Work Items: ----------- The group will: - Produce a specification of the 6top sublayer that describes the protocol for neighbor nodes to negotiate adding/removing cells. This work will leverage cross participation from IEEE members including the IEEE 6TiSCH Interest Group (IG 6T) to define protocol elements and associated frame formats. - Produce a specification for a default 6top Scheduling Function including the policy to enable distributed dynamic scheduling of timeslots for IP traffic. This may include the capability for nodes to appropriate chunks of the matrix without starving, or interfering with other 6TiSCH nodes. This particular work will focus on IP traffic since the work on tracks is not yet advanced enough to specify their requirements. - Produce requirements to the DetNet WG, detailing 6TiSCH chunks and tracks, and the data models to manipulate them from an external controller such as a PCE. - Produce a specification for a secure 6TiSCH network bootstrap, adapted to the constraints of 6TiSCH nodes and leveraging existing art when possible. - Keep updating the "6TiSCH architecture" that describes the design of 6TiSCH networks. This document highlights the different architectural blocks, signaling and data flows, including the operation of the network in the presence of multiple LBRs. The existing document will be augmented to cover dynamic scheduling and application of the DetNet work but will not be delivered within this round of chartering. - Producing YANG Data Models to manage 6tisch is foreseen, but left to a later phase. Non-milestone work items: ------------------------- The Working Group regularly organizes interoperability events with support from ETSI (i.e., ETSI 6TiSCH Plugtests) to get feedback from implementers early on in the standardization process, and produce better standards. Milestones: Apr 2016 - Second submission of draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal to the IESG Apr 2016 - WG call to adopt draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-sf0 Apr 2016 - WG call to adopt draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-sublayer Jul 2016 - ETSI 6TiSCH #3 plugtests Jul 2016 - Initial submission of draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-sublayer to the IESG Oct 2016 - Initial submission of draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-sf0 to the IESG Dec 2016 - Evaluate WG progress, propose new charter to the IESG Apr 2017 - Initial submission of 6TiSCH terminology to the IESG Apr 2017 - Initial submission of 6TiSCH architecture to the IESG Dec 2017 - 6TiSCH architecture and terminology in RFC publication queue From nobody Tue Mar 8 00:14:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E83D12D530; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:14:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: 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X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:35:30 -0000 Diego, Yes, understand the logic but (ducking) it was " In addition, a PCC MAY apply the procedures described in [RFC6698]" and is now " In addition, a PCV MAY apply the procedures described in [RFC6698]" Separately (why can't I get it right first time?), your MTI ciphersuites are defined in RFC5288 which I think should be a Normative Reference from s.3.4 Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA" To: "t.petch" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 8:18 PM > Hi again, > > I forgot to mention that we’ll change the mention to “client†and “client certificate†in the third paragraph of 3.5. But the mention to PCC in the discussion of the use of DANE has to remain, as DANE is mentioned in the context of DNS discovery, that is only applicable by a PCC. > > Be goode, > > On 6 Mar 2016, at 21:08 , DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Apologies for the delay (other urgent requests piling up…) Dhruv has just reminded me of this comment of yours. I think you are right: It is much better to maintain symmetry in the TLS verification and use a general term that includes both peers. I’ll upload an updated version right now. > > Be goode, > > On 3 Feb 2016, at 18:06 , t.petch > wrote: > > Diego > > Looks good with one slight query. I commented before on the use of > 'client' in s.3.5 which suggested an asymmetric protocol, where the PCE > checks on the PCC needed to be more stringent that those of the PCC on > the PCE. I notice that one of the 'client' has gone but one has not and > there is still a 'PCC' in there so it still to me carries the flavour > that PCE checking of the PCC is more important than the other way round. > I do not know if this is ok or not, how it lines up with the threat > model. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:07 PM > > Hi, > > We have just uploaded a new version of draft-ietf-pce-pceps > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps/) > > We believe this new version addresses all the comments received from the > SECDIR review after the last call period, and other pending ones > provided by Tom while that SECDIR review was taking place. As far as the > authors can say, the document is ready to progress. > > Be goode, > > -- > "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" > > Dr Diego R. 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3D0D112DC1E; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:24:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160308232413.18054.21617.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 15:24:13 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pceps-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 23:24:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF. Title : Secure Transport for PCEP Authors : Diego R. Lopez Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Qin Wu Dhruv Dhody Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pceps-09.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2016-03-08 Abstract: The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defines the mechanisms for the communication between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or among PCEs. This document describe the usage of Transport Layer Security (TLS) to enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed for it. The additional security mechanisms are provided by the transport protocol supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect the flexibility and extensibility of PCEP. 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bulk Message-ID: <20160308182929.18303.62865.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:29:29 -0800 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 01:08:17 -0800 Cc: itu-t-liaison@iab.org, Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , naotaka.morita@ntt-at.co.jp, Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List , JP Vasseur , Path Computation Element Discussion List , Alvaro Retana , Ross Callon , Scott Mansfield Subject: [Pce] New Liaison Statement, "LS on ITU-T SG15 OTNT standardization work plan" X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:29:29 -0000 Title: LS on ITU-T SG15 OTNT standardization work plan Submission Date: 2016-03-08 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1460/ Please reply by 2016-08-31 From: "Naotaka Morita" To: loa@pi.nu, swallow.ietf@gmail.com, rcallon@juniper.net, jonathan.hardwick@metaswitch.com, jpv@cisco.com, julien.meuric@orange.com, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, zhangfatai@huawei.com Cc: Alvaro Retana ,Deborah Brungard ,Julien Meuric ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,Scott Mansfield ,Jonathan Hardwick ,Fatai Zhang ,George Swallow ,Path Computation Element Discussion List ,John Drake ,Alia Atlas ,Daniele Ceccarelli ,Ross Callon ,Loa Andersson ,Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org,JP Vasseur , Response Contacts: naotaka.morita@ntt-at.co.jp Technical Contacts: Purpose: For comment Body: Thank you for your previous review and comments on “Optical Transport Networks & Technologies Standardization Work Plan.†Attached is Issue 21, the latest version updated by the SG15 meeting in February 2016. 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So I would send this on its way as is - having one or two minor editorial quirks in an I-D provides a good metric of the subsequent reviews:-) Tom Petch > The PCC/PCV mistake was caused by my fiddling with line breaks to make a more readable XML source when updating to -08. Good catch! > > And you are right that RFC5288 should be mentioned in section 3.4, and among the normative references. > > -09 on its way. I hope this will be the one able to progress… > > Be goode, > > On 8 Mar 2016, at 11:29 , t.petch > wrote: > > Diego, > > Yes, understand the logic but (ducking) it was > " In addition, a PCC MAY apply the procedures described in [RFC6698]" > and is now > " In addition, a PCV MAY apply the procedures described in [RFC6698]" > > Separately (why can't I get it right first time?), your MTI ciphersuites > are defined in RFC5288 which I think should be a Normative Reference > from s.3.4 > > Tom Petch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA" > > To: "t.petch" > > Cc: > > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 8:18 PM > > > Hi again, > > I forgot to mention that we’ll change the mention to “client†and > “client certificate†in the third paragraph of 3.5. But the mention to > PCC in the discussion of the use of DANE has to remain, as DANE is > mentioned in the context of DNS discovery, that is only applicable by a > PCC. > > Be goode, > > On 6 Mar 2016, at 21:08 , DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA > > > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Apologies for the delay (other urgent requests piling up…) Dhruv has > just reminded me of this comment of yours. I think you are right: It is > much better to maintain symmetry in the TLS verification and use a > general term that includes both peers. I’ll upload an updated version > right now. > > Be goode, > > On 3 Feb 2016, at 18:06 , t.petch > > wrote: > > Diego > > Looks good with one slight query. I commented before on the use of > 'client' in s.3.5 which suggested an asymmetric protocol, where the > PCE > checks on the PCC needed to be more stringent that those of the PCC on > the PCE. I notice that one of the 'client' has gone but one has not > and > there is still a 'PCC' in there so it still to me carries the flavour > that PCE checking of the PCC is more important than the other way > round. > I do not know if this is ok or not, how it lines up with the threat > model. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA" > > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:07 PM > > Hi, > > We have just uploaded a new version of draft-ietf-pce-pceps > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps/) > > We believe this new version addresses all the comments received from > the > SECDIR review after the last call period, and other pending ones > provided by Tom while that SECDIR review was taking place. As far as > the > authors can say, the document is ready to progress. > > Be goode, > > -- > "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" > > Dr Diego R. 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Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destruição > From nobody Fri Mar 11 19:12:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164E112DC41 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IF-cHR4MmwrQ for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qg0-x236.google.com (mail-qg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E766E12DBA6 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qg0-x236.google.com with SMTP id u110so114240537qge.3 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=1T0ukY3J7cJXdaN52p97BARgAqhU2NUCo6jcB6/oh9o=; b=E39PVof5B4zn/NbdpfUNvRFGplI053ks8MstYi2OEMQyCgkJ7x7O6YWpnOX/UefyhA wnmiiXIRIrcQCWMep3CuE4/EExSZmZij5tUL472/5mjLu92gxi3fQHDq59RiRPFhBHWC jr4NHVs9fD0kmudqbxQQy6k4zoOeU6VZgM6OwV2zwkUKpwNgdhqa+8zSMfm3t/wej57B 2i2Bo5e5ILHJCvAc+dwiLg/GVkbFV1c6QNc+wWyzglNkzboc02QOuAaQIle6zbQX/Cif 8jmTrBUdpVvEvaYUO9Exd3OkBkIrEmFZs0XV/1l7M2RJPbp11+I57FLYbcV8RUbDs5oh ZbdA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=1T0ukY3J7cJXdaN52p97BARgAqhU2NUCo6jcB6/oh9o=; b=c0wRY0XD7KqGsKpcpr/9vIkzHvsFXSXZMViXNYB794RwZtNzIQreTWJtRb75AmxN1z cNu07NN1F8FuifuVmWtuJEJjaBL0udM5U7PZt5W/ONOWKZNvWV608zAdkfqOG59/OMp2 xOkWTarGFik8fk7HDldj4geOYEzV/C93zkwDq3QcQBCs0wXXiA5KhlMkCGPBpjbUEm5D YmwY7vPe+ut2c/7uHZXqh6stQHyFI5Dpot5otSTE6viqXWGrQAx4cjFQAWddyXsbKO3e 72z/ZCR0KRvBkgRX5GIbVwu4JuU82IDoz83aID7tn81e8PWyJ2rKygbbSudtwz+R46G6 Xjdg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLiJoXaBHJftAchaI8A+uDl9SUPai0eHmAL+Q8nkJMdWpb8C7BY5Lm1m0BTagO2omjxBjHKp7yPkg9wDBME MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.162.213 with SMTP id i204mr16846798qhi.85.1457752330009; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.55.187.130 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56AFA415.2090504@hq.sk> References: <56210C68.1080904@orange.com> <569CFA97.2080209@hq.sk> <56AF5F41.9000903@orange.com> <56AFA415.2090504@hq.sk> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:12:09 -0800 Message-ID: From: Ina Minei To: Robert Varga Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a479ecd4693052dd169c9 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce@ietf.org, "pce@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pce] Chair's Review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-11 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:12:13 -0000 --001a113a479ecd4693052dd169c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Julien, Please see iniline [snip] > > > - Avoiding "positive acknowledgements for properly received >> synchronization messages" has scalability benefits in normal situations, >> but the PCC is blind and may keep on sending PCRpt to dead processes behind >> up PCEP sessions. Have you consider acknowledgement, possibly using a >> compression mechanism like the one defined later in the I-D? >> > ### XXX Pending > > > The association between a PCEP session and PCE processes is something > which I would consider an internal PCE detail, and it should be covered by > the next sentence (e.g. raise PCErr 20/1). > > [JM] I still feel unwise to consider a lack of feedback as a proof of > synchronization. What if, from time to time, a PCRpt gets lost? I do not > think acknowledgement would be a pain to add, but its lack can easily turn > to that in operational situations. > > > The assumption here is that PCEP runs on top of TCP, so no PCRpts get lost > on the network without also losing the session. The procedures for > validating that the session is in fact synchronized (possibly on a periodic > basis) are part of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations. I think we > can add some text around that. > > - In section 5.5.1, it is not clear if an empty LSP Update Request with a >> Delegate flag to 1 is an acceptable way for a PCE to send a delegation >> acknowledgement: to be clarified. >> > ### XXX Pending > > > It is not, as that would be seen as a request to modify the LSP setup to > empty. Such an acknowledgement would have to include full configuration as > previously reported -- which would be handled as a normal update. > > [JM] The I-Ds says the contrary: to be checked. Note that empty could be > loose, which seems possible to handle at the signaling level. > > > I think this is clarified in -13 (section 5.7). > ### Does this require additional modifications? > > > > - The behavior associated to the resource limit per PCC rather looks like >> a Notifcation than an Error (e.g., in RFC 5440, cancelling a set of pending >> requests relies on PCNtf). Please consider the use of Notification instead >> of Error here. >> > ### XXX Pending > > > Current wording is based on the assumption that the PCE has to have a > consistent point-in-time view of the PCC's state. In this regard a PCRpt of > a new LSP which exceeds PCE implementation-internal limit on the number of > LSPs it supports would break that assumption, hence we chose PCErr. This > makes it consistent with what would happen if that LSP is reported during > initial state resynchronization. > > [JM] Please note that the current I-D uses "PCNtf", and I am fine with > that resolution. I was not questioning the expected behavior, which must > remain. I was just suggesting the expected type of message to be consistent > with RFC 5440: the PCC has not made anything wrong, it is informed that the > PCE no more accepts its reports similarly to the way a PCE is able to tell > about overload or cancel some requests. > > > I'll try to re-read the entire thing and report back. > > > - It would be nice to elaborate on the reason why the SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME >> MUST be included and not SHOULD. >> - I do not see why SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME may be included in SRP Object: >> defining the LSP Object as its single place seems enough and much simpler. >> > > ### XXX Pending > > > The MUST is there to maintain a single global identifier for the LSP. > PLSP-ID is then used as a shorthand. I do not recollect the exact reasoning > as to why the TLV can be in SRP, as the placement and semantics of that TLV > has changed quite a bit over the past couple of years. If I were to venture > a guess, I think it was retrofitted to allow the PCE to update the symbolic > path name. > > [JM] OK about the "MUST". About SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME in SRP, please choose: > either it is legacy and must be dropped (current version), or there is a > reason and it must be documented in the I-D. > > > ### We have discussed, and it will be removed, it is legacy. Ina > --001a113a479ecd4693052dd169c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- Avoiding "positive acknowledgements for properly received synchronization messages" has scalability benefits in normal situations, but the PCC is blind and may keep on sending PCRpt to dead processes behind up PCEP sessions. Have you consider acknowledgement, possibly using a compression mechanism like the one defined later in the I-D?
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The association between a PCEP session and PCE processes is something which I would consider an internal PCE detail, and it should be covered by the next sentence (e.g. raise PCErr 20/1).
[JM] I still feel unwise to consider a lack of feedback as a proof of synchronization. What if, from time to time, a PCRpt gets lost? I do not think acknowledgement would be a pain to add, but its lack can easily turn to that in operational situations.

 The assumption here is that PCEP runs on top of TCP, so no PCRpts get lost on the network without also losing the session. The procedures for validating that the session is in fact synchronized (possibly on a periodic basis) are part of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations. I think we can add some text around that.

- In section 5.5.1, it is not clear if an empty LSP Update Request with a Delegate flag to 1 is an acceptable way for a PCE to send a delegation acknowledgement: to be clarified.=C2=A0
### XXX Pending

It is not, as that would be seen as a request to modify the LSP setup to empty. Such an acknowledgement would have to include full configuration as previously reported -- which would be handled as a normal update.
[JM] The I-Ds says the contrary: to be checked. Note that empty could be loose, which seems possible to handle at the signaling level.

 I think this is clarified in -13 (section 5.7).
= ### Does this require additional modifications?=C2=A0



- The behavior associated to the resource limit per PCC rather looks like a Notifcation than an Error (e.g., in RFC 5440, cancelling a set of pending requests relies on PCNtf). Please consider the use of Notification instead of Error here.
### XXX Pending

Current wording is based on the assumption that the PCE has to have a consistent point-in-time view of the PCC's state. In thi= s regard a PCRpt of a new LSP which exceeds PCE implementation-internal limit on the number of LSPs it supports would break that assumption, hence we chose PCErr. This makes it consistent with what would happen if that LSP is reported during initial state resynchronization.
[JM] Please note that the current I-D uses "PCNtf", and I a= m fine with that resolution. I was not questioning the expected behavior, which must remain. I was just suggesting the expected type of message to be consistent with RFC 5440: the PCC has not made anything wrong, it is informed that the PCE no more accepts its reports similarly to the way a PCE is able to tell about overload or cancel some requests.

 I'll try to re-read the entire thing and report back.


- It would be nice to elaborate on the reason why the SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME MUST be included and not SHOULD.
- I do not see why SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME may be included in SRP Object: defining the LSP Object as its single place seems enough and much simpler.

### XXX =C2=A0Pending

The MUST is there to maintain a single global identifier for the LSP. PLSP-ID is then used as a shorthand. I do not recollect the exact reasoning as to why the TLV can be in SRP, as the placement and semantics of that TLV has changed quite a bit over the past couple of years. If I were to venture a guess, I think it was retrofitted to allow the PCE to update the symbolic path name.
[JM] OK about the "MUST". About SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME in SRP, = please choose: either it is legacy and must be dropped (current version), or there is a reason and it must be documented in the I-D.

### We have discussed, and it will b= e removed, it is legacy.=C2=A0


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Dhruv is updating the document for these edits and I'll then start the IETF= Last Call. Thanks! Deborah --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C852847AAEMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I’ve done my AD review of this document and only had a few comme= nts:
 
  • I’ve provided the author with some editorial suggestions to impro= ve the abstract and introduction.
  • As the survey document will not b= e progressed to RFC, it will be best to remove the reference to it from thi= s document, and reword a bit these sentences on it.
 
Dhruv is updating the document for these edits and I’ll then sta= rt the IETF Last Call.
 
Thanks!
Deborah
 
 
 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C852847AAEMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_-- From nobody Mon Mar 14 20:34:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4C712D617; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160315033453.18803.69938.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:34:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-iro-update-06.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 03:34:53 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF. Title : Update to Include Route Object (IRO) specification in Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP) Author : Dhruv Dhody Filename : draft-ietf-pce-iro-update-06.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2016-03-14 Abstract: The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a PCE, or between two PCEs. RFC 5440 defines the Include Route Object (IRO) to specify network elements to be traversed in the computed path. The specification did not specify if the IRO contains an ordered or un-ordered list of sub-objects. During recent discussions, it was determined that there was a need to define a standard representation to ensure interoperability. An informal survey was conducted to determine the state of current and planned implementations with respect to IRO ordering and the handling of an attribute of the IRO's sub-object, the Loose hop bit (L bit). This document updates RFC 5440 regarding the IRO specification, based on the survey conclusion and recommendation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-iro-update/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-iro-update-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-iro-update-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Hi WG,

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I have made the update. S= ee =A8C

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The IETF datatracker status page for= this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= ietf-pce-iro-update/

 

There's also a htmlized version avai= lable at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce= -iro-update-06

 

A diff from the previous version is = available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-pce-iro-update-06

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Thanks Deborah for sugges= ted improvements!

 <= /p>

Regards,

Dhruv

 <= /p>

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From: Pce [mai= lto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
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To: pce@ietf.org
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Subject: [Pce] AD review: draft-ietf-pce-iro-update

 

Hi,

 

I=A1=AFve done my AD review of this doc= ument and only had a few comments:

 

=A1=A4         I=A1=AFve provided the author w= ith some editorial suggestions to improve the abstract and introduction.

=A1=A4         As the survey document will not= be progressed to RFC, it will be best to remove the reference to it from t= his document, and reword a bit these sentences on it.

 

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Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April 5th, > 17:30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS meeting, > but is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the discussion of > Yang models. >=20 > If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please send > a request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please note the > dates below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission is UTC 23:5= 9 > on March 21st. >=20 > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please > send to me and the Chairs. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Matt From nobody Tue Mar 15 09:32:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A8512DB2C; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20160315163211.24509.14670.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:32:11 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-pce-iro-update@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Last Call: (Update to Include Route Object (IRO) specification in Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP)) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:32:11 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to consider the following document: - 'Update to Include Route Object (IRO) specification in Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-03-29. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a PCE, or between two PCEs. RFC 5440 defines the Include Route Object (IRO) to specify network elements to be traversed in the computed path. The specification did not specify if the IRO contains an ordered or un-ordered list of sub-objects. During recent discussions, it was determined that there was a need to define a standard representation to ensure interoperability. An informal survey was conducted to determine the state of current and planned implementations with respect to IRO ordering and the handling of an attribute of the IRO's sub-object, the Loose hop bit (L bit). This document updates RFC 5440 regarding the IRO specification, based on the survey conclusion and recommendation. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-iro-update/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-iro-update/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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Hi WG,

 

We have updated the PCECC extension d= raft [1] (see diff [2]) based on =A1=B0The follow up of the PCECC proposal= =A1=B1 presented by Adrian during the Yokohama meeting @ IETF 94 [3].

 

One of the key points mentioned was t= hat PCECC Label operations can be done via existing messages if we use PCIn= itiate message to instantiate =A1=B0cross-connect=A1=B1 on each node. In this update, we have tried to capture this option so that we could comp= are it to the new message - =A1=B0PCLabelUpd=A1=B1. The new message seems t= o be a cleaner protocol extension option which can also be readily used for= SR case as well.  

 

Please provide comments and suggestio= ns!

 

Regards,

Dhruv (on behalf of co-authors and co= ntributors)

 

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont= roller/

[2] https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c= ontroller-03

[3] = https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-pce-3.pdf

 

 

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Deadline for requests is tomorrow. Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > A reminder: deadline for slot requests is Friday. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Matt >=20 > > All, > > > > On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April > > 5th, > > 17:30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS > > meeting, but is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the > > discussion of Yang models. > > > > If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please > > send a request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please > > note the dates below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission > > is UTC 23:59 on March 21st. > > > > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please > > send to me and the Chairs. > > > > Cheers > > > > Matt From nobody Thu Mar 17 09:32:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A865A12D5BB; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:32:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D55L_AGvTwEX; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-1.cisco.com (alln-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.142.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6A4512D9B8; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1204; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458232332; x=1459441932; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=RwgTIbFoNHFbetRmAyBSIVJXyXPWH0+7RPTeBDu8dzk=; b=J6WbJupoZWX2a9nU4L6T3dh15OKEFsOgNIxgDBXb9jXg6UUL6806mySE 7E8HQexkWfJ2/p2DByWR1xdM/+Cc3aWeQEZ47jSVRbzAUtW9SndrzCFx+ jARcghjzlN6Ku67qpkqH7xm5s7hcGaNFn9CRsrWH/JXsfEqw5TCRQcn5u Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ADAgDQ2+pW/5tdJa1eg0WBQQa3cIIPA?= =?us-ascii?q?Q2Bb4YNAoE2OBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQgEBBHkQAgEIRjIlAQEEAQ0FiCfBBAEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARWGHoREiHYBBI1ziWEBjgCBZYRJiFiPAgEeAQFCg?= =?us-ascii?q?2VqiWV+AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,350,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="250673593" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by alln-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 17 Mar 2016 16:31:51 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-001.cisco.com (xch-rtp-001.cisco.com [64.101.220.141]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2HGVp43008462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:31:51 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-001.cisco.com (64.101.220.141) by XCH-RTP-001.cisco.com (64.101.220.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:31:50 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-001.cisco.com ([64.101.220.141]) by XCH-RTP-001.cisco.com ([64.101.220.141]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:31:50 -0400 From: "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" To: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" , "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session Thread-Index: AdF5dAnVP29i6/2LQUaQgiphMngjfgFWEyfQAGceOZAAAGxsgA== Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:31:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <29ff71e4b7724c118fdd2122ed03a264@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> <59f547ca7b20478f9be142b2db3f9502@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <59f547ca7b20478f9be142b2db3f9502@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.244.85] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pce] Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:32:31 -0000 Hi Matt, We=B9d like to ask for a 10-15mins slot to present the updates for TE and RSVP YANG models in the joint yang session. for drafts:=20 draft-ietf-teas-yang-te draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp Regards, Tarek On 2016-03-17, 12:20 PM, "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" wrote: >All, > >Final reminder. Deadline for requests is tomorrow. > >Cheers > >Matt > >> All, >>=20 >> A reminder: deadline for slot requests is Friday. >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >> Matt >>=20 >> > All, >> > >> > On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April >> > 5th, >> > 17:30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS >> > meeting, but is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the >> > discussion of Yang models. >> > >> > If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please >> > send a request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please >> > note the dates below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission >> > is UTC 23:59 on March 21st. >> > >> > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please >> > send to me and the Chairs. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Matt From nobody Sun Mar 20 08:50:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CC612D512; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:50:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160320155028.2286.20964.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:50:28 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-14.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:50:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Stateful PCE Authors : Edward Crabbe Ina Minei Jan Medved Robert Varga Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-14.txt Pages : 51 Date : 2016-03-20 Abstract: The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests. Although PCEP explicitly makes no assumptions regarding the information available to the PCE, it also makes no provisions for PCE control of timing and sequence of path computations within and across PCEP sessions. This document describes a set of extensions to PCEP to enable stateful control of MPLS-TE and GMPLS LSPs via PCEP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-14 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 21 10:31:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF4712D971; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:31:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321173131.31916.71784.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:31:31 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-07.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:31:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing Authors : Siva Sivabalan Jan Medved Clarence Filsfils Edward Crabbe Victor Lopez Jeff Tantsura Wim Henderickx Jon Hardwick Filename : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-07.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-03-21 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or RSVP-TE). It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link- State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs). A Segment Routed Path can be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation Element (PCE). This document specifies extensions to the Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC to request a path subject to certain constraint(s) and optimization criteria in SR networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 21 14:02:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D294312DB7E; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:02:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pqJpu53pNvY2; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-7.cisco.com (alln-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.142.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1816512D68E; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=230; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458594150; x=1459803750; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=V/4p/EJDmLlrO4Z2mO3hJ4aa6btsKtogVO15rliQFdg=; b=L8Y4usWzSWm5r311rVz3gJ2NUf+4422gEMHk75cpxiamOUT0uPPuBNYh 6srOiK99VKh7d9LyHNlgYiBmZkiS9fKILRzhVCnk8bocnj4rY8ZrjPCMa A97Jbl1amg7/y6V43dmEhVqAdxdswtsw4ZWOGA+C9Xw4vjJqFeZ5F7UWA c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AOAgAVYPBW/5hdJa1egzNTgQC4D4IPA?= =?us-ascii?q?Q2BcCGFbIExOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeERAQ6PxIBPkImAQQBDQ2IHw6+UQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAREEhh6OVgWXVwGBKoxSgVYBFYRKiFiPBQEeAQFCg2WJc?= =?us-ascii?q?gF9AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,373,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="251934389" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by alln-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Mar 2016 21:02:29 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (xch-aln-002.cisco.com [173.36.7.12]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2LL2TYg021675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:02:29 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (173.36.7.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:02:27 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:02:25 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session in Buenos Aires Thread-Index: AdGDtNFSemGAqfjwREybr1jxDxfNMQ== Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:02:25 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.177] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [Pce] Agenda for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session in Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:02:32 -0000 All, The agenda for this has been published (bottom half of https://www.ietf.org= /proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-teas). Please send slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st to me and the Chai= rs. Cheers Matt From nobody Mon Mar 21 15:56:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4929412D0E1; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:56:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321225643.12185.31819.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:56:43 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp-02.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 22:56:43 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions for remote-initiated GMPLS LSP Setup Authors : Zafar Ali Siva Sivabalan Clarence Filsfils Robert Varga Victor Lopez Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Xian Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp-02.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2016-03-21 Abstract: Draft [I-D. draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp] specifies procedures that can be used for creation and deletion of PCE-initiated LSPs in the active stateful PCE model. However, this specification focuses on MPLS networks, and does not cover remote instantiation of paths in GMPLS-controlled networks. This document complements [I-D. draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp] by addressing the requirements for remote-initiated GMPLS LSPs. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Mar 29 08:06:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972C412D8DC; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:06:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jOV19wkDR0wT; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-2.cisco.com (alln-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.142.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 318F312D8D6; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=125; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1459264006; x=1460473606; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=2sM3rg5hLkLczIStM7/SVNMGIBpfIT5Ob4+yLGW4lSk=; b=bk8vO/R5ueX2kvJN/a/GPGzWFCnmiUr0QA425mDOxtIlOcEKWtEcyfbz QJOPRIM5QfA31yTvHOYItVF1NuiIThPF0gkwtqdxLFQgP6HwnlPUS2MqD t+RPHEv7OWc8YVeP4oFqzFTWklwCbLplYJt6Y40HKJbb0XA4CNPN0e6b4 Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D4AQCxmfpW/5NdJa1dgy6BVrhhgg8BD?= =?us-ascii?q?YFwhg2BMzgUAQEBAQEBAWQnhEQEOj8SAT5CJgEEAQ0NiB/AegEBAQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEXhh2OVwWXbAGBKoxVgVcBFYRNiFqPDgEeAQFCg2WIaAF9AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,411,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="253357207" Received: from rcdn-core-11.cisco.com ([173.37.93.147]) by alln-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 29 Mar 2016 15:06:36 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (xch-rcd-002.cisco.com [173.37.102.12]) by rcdn-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2TF6aEE030721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:06:36 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (173.37.102.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:06:36 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:06:36 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Slides for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session Thread-Index: AdGJzIBJAjqTFc6SR6KqAkKLpYwjeA== Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:06:35 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Slides for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:06:48 -0000 All, A reminder on this... if you're presenting, please send slides to me and th= e chairs by Friday. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The final draft agenda for the PCE working group meeting has been uploaded. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/agenda/pce/ This is what you need to do: * If you are presenting, please submit your slides to the WG chairs = and WG secretary (CC'ed here) by the end of Monday April 4. * If you are the editor of a working group draft, please send me a f= ew bullets to describe its status and any open issues by the end of Sunday = April 3. 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The final draft agenda for the PCE working group mee= ting has been uploaded.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/agenda/pce/

 

This is what you need to do:

·        If you are presenting, please submit your sl= ides to the WG chairs and WG secretary (CC’ed here) by the end of Monday April 4.

·        If you are the editor of a working group dra= ft, please send me a few bullets to describe its status and any open issues= by the end of Sunday April 3.

 

Many thanks

Jon

 

--_000_BLUPR0201MB190875439DE5B55CCF9A054784980BLUPR0201MB1908_-- From nobody Wed Mar 30 21:22:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F286912D93A; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.231 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.231 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a9GeQAD-ah5u; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C29A612D532; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BOM13630; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:22:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from BLREML407-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.45) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 05:20:45 +0100 Received: from BLREML509-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.249]) by BLREML407-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.20.4.45]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:50:34 +0530 From: Dhruv Dhody To: "draft-ietf-pce-inter-area-as-applicability@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Review of draft-ietf-pce-inter-area-as-applicability Thread-Index: AdGLBKrw/DsK4E4kRtSQjAAEDrp08w== Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:20:33 +0000 Message-ID: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8C6D5711@BLREML509-MBX.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.244.252] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0203.56FCA5EA.0005, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.7.249, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 3c412e0cafcfd61fa600834e24fe63ad Archived-At: Cc: "pce@ietf.org" Subject: [Pce] Review of draft-ietf-pce-inter-area-as-applicability X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:22:06 -0000 Hi Authors, WG, As promised here is the review of the Inter-Area and AS applicability draft. Main Points - ************* (1) We should add text to indicate that the inter-domain considerations for stateful PCE is out of scope and may be handled in a different document. (2) The draft has some content common with RFC6805, we can (a) add reference and keep the text; (b) add reference and condense the text; (c) keep as it is; (3) A section on inter-AS link and boundary node (ABR/ASBR) considerations can be added. (4) Some text is repetitive, editors can look if reorganization would help to avoid it. (5) Some inter-area considerations (5.1.3 and 5.2) can also be applied to inter-AS, we should also have section for - (a) Inter-AS Diverse Path Computation (perhaps merged with Inter-AS Recovery?) (b) Control and Recording of AS Crossing Minor - ******* Section 1.5 Regarding the last statement The PCE discovery mechanism defined in [RFC5088] and [RFC5089] allow the discovery of PCEs and disclosure of information related to inter-area and inter-AS capable PCEs across area and AS boundari= es. This seem to suggest that the the information is leaned across AS boundary, which IGP based discovery wont do. I suggest to remove "across area and AS boundaries". Also the section heading doesn't match the text, I think we can make this section "Inter-area and Inter-AS Capable PCE Discovery". Section 4.3 The heading "Domain Meshes" seem to suggest a mesh between domains, but the text seem to focus on the topology within domain. Section 4.4 OLD Whenever an specific connectivity service is required to have 1+= 1 protection feature, two completely disjoint paths must be established on an end to end fashion. In a multi-domain environm= ent without, this can be accomplished either by selecting domain diversity, or by ensuring diverse connection within a domain. In order to compute the route diversity, it could be helpful to hav= e SRLG information in the domains. NEW Whenever an specific connectivity service is required to have 1+= 1 protection feature, two completely disjoint paths must be established in an end to end fashion. In a multi-domain environm= ent, this can be accomplished either by selecting domain diversity, o= r by ensuring diverse connection within a domain. The domain diversit= y ensures diversity in the transit domain, the diverse path should be computed within the ingress and egress domain. In order to co= mpute the path diversity, it could be helpful to also have SRLG inform= ation in the domains. Section 4.5 Should we also mention the capability for Synchronized domain diverse path computation? Section 5.1.1 - Repeated text from Section 5 can be removed. - [draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence] added include or exclude area itself. Section 6.1.1 Better description in section 6.1.3 (of the same title), this can be removed. Section 6.2 Add reference to RFC4216 Section 6.3 Can this text be made more crisp? - backup can be computed after primary or at the same time - not sure about "PCE protection and redundancy" in this context? - s/patch computation/batch computation/ Section 7.1 - Inter-as connectivity can be populated via [RFC5392] and [RFC5316]. - In last para, I am not sure about the relationship between boundary node in TED and selecting the next PCE in the path? Section 7.2 Can this be made '7.1.1' to indicate "Provisioning Techniques" relates to TED? Section 7.5 Why is per-domain [RFC5152] considered in this section? Section 7.6 RFC 6805 doesn't mention discovery of parent/child PCE? Only static configuration is defined there. Section 12.1 The text is currently from RFC6805, with focus on "across AS" and "aggregation". Perhaps this can be updated a bit to include the use of BGP-LS in the context of PCE servers. Section 13.1, 13.2 Text relevant to specific inter-as and inter-area considerations can be added. Section 14 We can add some more details regarding - PCEP over TCP [RFC6952] - Support for TCP-AO [RFC5925] and [PCEPS] Editorial - *********** Expand on first use - - Autonomous System (AS) - Operational Support System (OSS) Section 1 - s/used to discovery the/used to discover the/ Section 1.1 - [Extra space] "area ( as per [RFC4726]" - Suggested rewording avoiding "route computation" and clarifying that small topologies refer to number of domains. OLD: It is assumed that the PCE architecture should only be applied to small inter-domain topologies and not to solve route computation issues across large groups of domains, i.e. the entire Internet. NEW: It is assumed that the PCE architecture is not applied to a large group of domains, such as Internet. Section 1.2.1 OLD The PCC-PCE capability awareness can configured using static configuration or by listening to the periodic advertisements generated by PCEs. NEW The PCC-PCE capability awareness can be configured using static configurations or by automatic and dynamic PCE discovery procedures. Regarding the last para A PCE may cooperate with other PCEs to determine intermediate lo= ose hops. End-to-end path segments may be kept confidential through = the application of path keys, to protect partial or full path information. A path key that is a token that replaces a path seg= ment in an explicit route. The path key mechanism is described in [RFC5520] Since this paragraph is about path keys, I see the first statement about loose hops to be misplaced. The path keys were introduced as alternate to loose hope signaling. Section 2 - The term CSPF not used in the document, can be removed Section 3.2 s/else the receiving PCE PCC will be/ /else the receiving PCE or PCC will be/ Section 4.6 Last sentence - s/IGP area or an Autonomous Systems./ /IGP area or a 4-Byte AS number./ Section 5.1.3 Add H-PCE [RFC6805] in last sentence. Section 7.4 s/Otherwise, BRPC [RFC5441] will be used./ /Otherwise, BRPC [RFC5441] or HPCE [RFC6805] will be used./ Section 9 s/PCEP P2MP procedures defined in [RFC7334]./ /inter-domain P2MP procedures defined in [RFC7334]./ Section 11 s/delegated/requested/ - as delegation has a different meaning in stateful PCE ****** Thank You! Apologies for taking some time with this promised review. 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Thanks for the detailed comments. We will digest and update/discuss accordingly. BR, Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Dhruv Dhody [mailto:dhruv.dhody@huawei.com] Sent: 31 March 2016 05:21 To: draft-ietf-pce-inter-area-as-applicability@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org; Jonathan Hardwick ; Dhruv Dhody Subject: Review of draft-ietf-pce-inter-area-as-applicability Hi Authors, WG, As promised here is the review of the Inter-Area and AS applicability draft. Main Points - ************* (1) We should add text to indicate that the inter-domain considerations for stateful PCE is out of scope and may be handled in a different document. (2) The draft has some content common with RFC6805, we can (a) add reference and keep the text; (b) add reference and condense the text; (c) keep as it is; (3) A section on inter-AS link and boundary node (ABR/ASBR) considerations can be added. (4) Some text is repetitive, editors can look if reorganization would help to avoid it. (5) Some inter-area considerations (5.1.3 and 5.2) can also be applied to inter-AS, we should also have section for - (a) Inter-AS Diverse Path Computation (perhaps merged with Inter-AS Recovery?) (b) Control and Recording of AS Crossing Minor - ******* Section 1.5 Regarding the last statement The PCE discovery mechanism defined in [RFC5088] and [RFC5089] allow the discovery of PCEs and disclosure of information related to inter-area and inter-AS capable PCEs across area and AS boundaries. This seem to suggest that the the information is leaned across AS boundary, which IGP based discovery wont do. I suggest to remove "across area and AS boundaries". Also the section heading doesn't match the text, I think we can make this section "Inter-area and Inter-AS Capable PCE Discovery". Section 4.3 The heading "Domain Meshes" seem to suggest a mesh between domains, but the text seem to focus on the topology within domain. Section 4.4 OLD Whenever an specific connectivity service is required to have 1+1 protection feature, two completely disjoint paths must be established on an end to end fashion. In a multi-domain environment without, this can be accomplished either by selecting domain diversity, or by ensuring diverse connection within a domain. In order to compute the route diversity, it could be helpful to have SRLG information in the domains. NEW Whenever an specific connectivity service is required to have 1+1 protection feature, two completely disjoint paths must be established in an end to end fashion. In a multi-domain environment, this can be accomplished either by selecting domain diversity, or by ensuring diverse connection within a domain. The domain diversity ensures diversity in the transit domain, the diverse path should be computed within the ingress and egress domain. In order to compute the path diversity, it could be helpful to also have SRLG information in the domains. Section 4.5 Should we also mention the capability for Synchronized domain diverse path computation? Section 5.1.1 - Repeated text from Section 5 can be removed. - [draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence] added include or exclude area itself. Section 6.1.1 Better description in section 6.1.3 (of the same title), this can be removed. Section 6.2 Add reference to RFC4216 Section 6.3 Can this text be made more crisp? - backup can be computed after primary or at the same time - not sure about "PCE protection and redundancy" in this context? - s/patch computation/batch computation/ Section 7.1 - Inter-as connectivity can be populated via [RFC5392] and [RFC5316]. - In last para, I am not sure about the relationship between boundary node in TED and selecting the next PCE in the path? Section 7.2 Can this be made '7.1.1' to indicate "Provisioning Techniques" relates to TED? Section 7.5 Why is per-domain [RFC5152] considered in this section? Section 7.6 RFC 6805 doesn't mention discovery of parent/child PCE? Only static configuration is defined there. Section 12.1 The text is currently from RFC6805, with focus on "across AS" and "aggregation". Perhaps this can be updated a bit to include the use of BGP-LS in the context of PCE servers. Section 13.1, 13.2 Text relevant to specific inter-as and inter-area considerations can be added. Section 14 We can add some more details regarding - PCEP over TCP [RFC6952] - Support for TCP-AO [RFC5925] and [PCEPS] Editorial - *********** Expand on first use - - Autonomous System (AS) - Operational Support System (OSS) Section 1 - s/used to discovery the/used to discover the/ Section 1.1 - [Extra space] "area ( as per [RFC4726]" - Suggested rewording avoiding "route computation" and clarifying that small topologies refer to number of domains. OLD: It is assumed that the PCE architecture should only be applied to small inter-domain topologies and not to solve route computation issues across large groups of domains, i.e. the entire Internet. NEW: It is assumed that the PCE architecture is not applied to a large group of domains, such as Internet. Section 1.2.1 OLD The PCC-PCE capability awareness can configured using static configuration or by listening to the periodic advertisements generated by PCEs. NEW The PCC-PCE capability awareness can be configured using static configurations or by automatic and dynamic PCE discovery procedures. Regarding the last para A PCE may cooperate with other PCEs to determine intermediate loose hops. End-to-end path segments may be kept confidential through the application of path keys, to protect partial or full path information. A path key that is a token that replaces a path segment in an explicit route. The path key mechanism is described in [RFC5520] Since this paragraph is about path keys, I see the first statement about loose hops to be misplaced. The path keys were introduced as alternate to loose hope signaling. Section 2 - The term CSPF not used in the document, can be removed Section 3.2 s/else the receiving PCE PCC will be/ /else the receiving PCE or PCC will be/ Section 4.6 Last sentence - s/IGP area or an Autonomous Systems./ /IGP area or a 4-Byte AS number./ Section 5.1.3 Add H-PCE [RFC6805] in last sentence. Section 7.4 s/Otherwise, BRPC [RFC5441] will be used./ /Otherwise, BRPC [RFC5441] or HPCE [RFC6805] will be used./ Section 9 s/PCEP P2MP procedures defined in [RFC7334]./ /inter-domain P2MP procedures defined in [RFC7334]./ Section 11 s/delegated/requested/ - as delegation has a different meaning in stateful PCE ****** Thank You! Apologies for taking some time with this promised review. Regards, Dhruv