From nobody Thu Feb 1 06:10:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD71A1317AD for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 06:10:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.449, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53edX_xWlZjf for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 06:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (p-mail2.rd.orange.com [161.106.1.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556E31317CA for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 06:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 56E9CE300D0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:09:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.194.32.11]) by p-mail2.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23085E3009F for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:09:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.63] (10.193.71.63) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:09:45 +0100 To: "pce@ietf.org" From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Message-ID: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:09:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 14:10:16 -0000 Hi all, This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. 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This LC will end on Thursday February= , 15. =20 Regards, =20 Jon & Julien =20 _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce =20 From nobody Thu Feb 1 10:39:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547B912EBD1 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:39:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.629 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.629 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ncr-3wWVVJ4m for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from orange.com (mta135.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.70.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D2C12EB63 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfednr03.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.67]) by opfednr20.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id A746641403 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 19:38:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.31.63]) by opfednr03.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 915461A0059 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 19:38:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::65de:2f08:41e6:ebbe]) by OPEXCLILM6E.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::f5a7:eab1:c095:d9ec%18]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 19:38:56 +0100 From: To: MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN , "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group Thread-Index: AQHTm2ZlTn5Q9ErmskGjgEWGUwkyK6OP4P+A Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 18:38:55 +0000 Message-ID: <17807_1517510337_5A735EC1_17807_458_1_7359dca0-67ee-492f-83c5-965738a0a420@OPEXCLILM6E.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 18:39:01 -0000 Support -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 15:10 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group Hi all, This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-association= -group-04. 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This could be resolved by mandating the presence of OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE, and using reserved value 0,0 for Start-Assoc-ID, Range to indicate that there is no Operator-configured Association Range. Section 4.1 : what happens if the dynamic allocation ranges do not match between the two peer ? is it allowed or should the session be bounced? A special case can be made when one peer advertise (0,0) section 5.2.1: - the PCC can remove an association by setting the R flag to 1, if the PCC does not include any association, should the association be kept on the LSP? - I think the following should be added : PCRpt: all associations MUST be reported during state synchronization - Value 0 was previously used to ask a peer to allocate an association ID. Is it deemed not necessary anymore. Section 5.3: - the "association information" is not defined. The whole section can be clarified by detailing what the association information is.: is it (association type, association source, association-id), from the association group definitions, the triplet defines a group, so it should be possible to have several association id for th same type, source Does the the "association information previously received about the same association from a peer" relates to the association group (should there be an unique association id per lsp for a given type,source) or does it refers to the optional TLVs. " On receiving association information that does not match with the association information previously received about the same association from a peer, it MUST return a PCErr message with Error-Type TBD "Association Error" and Error-Value 6 "Association information mismatch"" This could be clarified, IMHO generally speaking the draft should allow several association id per (type, source), this kind of restriction may be defined in the documents defining the association types. Thanks, Cyril On 1 February 2018 at 10:38, wrote: > Support > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 15:10 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > Hi all, > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your > feedback on the PCE mailing list. 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I support the feature, I have= the following comment regarding the draft:
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   return a PCErr message with Error-Type TBD "Association Error"=
 and
   Error-Value 6 "Association information mismatch""

This could be clarified, IMHO generally sp=
eaking the draft should allow several association id per (type, source), th=
is kind of restriction may be defined in the documents defining the associa=
tion types.


Thanks, Cyril

On 1 Febr= uary 2018 at 10:38, <stephane.litkowski@orange.com> wrote:
Support

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Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, = or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:05 AM To: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Adoption Poll for draft-raghu-pce-lsp-control-request Hi all, Back in Prague, draft-raghu-pce-lsp-control-request raised clear interest. = Since then, the authors have done their homework, including the removal of = suggested values. Let us now share the question with the whole WG: do you t= hink draft-raghu-pce-lsp-control-request is a good foundation for a PCE WG = item? Please send your responses to the PCE list, including rationales in case of= disagreement. 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Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:52:17 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:52:09 -0000 Message-ID: <00a801d39df1$a824f5b0$f86ee110$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQGwU/kMf0keiy1FqGxffUtG3S9TQqPbOQsg X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.2.0.1013-23642.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.988-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--8.988-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 8HTFlOrbAtFBOSn32xXE3Fu4M/xm4KZeQKuv8uQBDjpBDVeC8J7uwRXb ItXKohgMYjjvr+YgDyha4fTB5ncLxMMghOBF/IjDcFEiuPxHjsWZf5btvM85AaczwN0ylW5YoNI Vs1K85ydSGaVOLQ9G0wXIlX9yyRSlexFW7fkMi0yWLCkl1lq7BzGZtPrBBPZr+Cckfm+bb6A410 7r0L4sPCEQtAw7Lgz4qE6HoPvRSHHBTqp1eEP1RBD3+0w1DhqK7SaKCujOOgEHWPn2mj7oRJIQ+ fXuC/SAs3ifo1Zb8/T3iRZmRsh8ZoT3OBUyTelefVRlI+8Oy1mGLPZnwUyxvVS+oHmj8upz+bpg G5LE7PMyJWEhPXFCLgErPtSEj4ONwydFtYXx0mXBVprK8rvWX0GtrAxy5ENOc7nSUtJ5mt7vlpq XUs8MLvZd/1iZAEVyM+NneIU47TOip6xhGipIWfOHbIp2eXtYgdNXa4lpKNtnnK6mXN72mx9yO9 YJ3ztHHO2VT2TdFKvuHDnQiTpv2aNvJJBiq11abD4iYfbCo2N+tO36GYDlso1eRh5mhJr6b7dy3 FffNk2uhfDso3p5EWxgKD1s/JFOCOBZR9t1Wn+xo9yzdPhMvVT5iq0BT4XZbaZMa0fgRtaWXGRG 0jfp/STACfrZ6hofbqZgG5zz63u5rzEqaXlmzRNEPNwNrw/rs1hEwUD1d/JnrZlHd2hx3WhrEB0 PmfficoRG7KG/CmsxqgDMags0HgLFcW2BlUUX7BI2Kjvg8mgElNfWx/2KLwVlQU1z44LtuXFkbD /3keyFGI7QE6ysDb7TbRlMnNSqP8TXfJUQkgGeAiCmPx4NwLTrdaH1ZWqCHOI0tZ7A+B36C0ePs 7A07YVH0dq7wY7u+DDtG0zgLSgUxREisxATXEV9l46+qgZiiZJoC20sVQLvZwg+o/0OFg== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 19:52:23 -0000 This is an important piece of work and there are a number of drafts dependent on it that will provide useful function. So we should definitely push forward to publication, but we also have to get this foundational document right otherwise we will struggle later. I have some moderate-sized issues set out below. Most just need editorial work although a couple are more substantive technical points that may need changes or better explanation. Thanks for the work. Adrian --- I spent a lot of time trying to understand the relationship between the svec-list and the association group. This understanding was not enhanced by this document since the mention of svec is actually only in the RBNF in section 5.2.2. I think the only thing to do to make this clear is to add a specific section "Relationship with the SVEC List" and use that to explain how the two constructs relate. Now, I know that this document doesn't define any Association Types, and that might mean that you think you don't have to describe the relationship: "It is up to the documents that define individual Association Types," you may say. But I think you have to give some guidance in this document since you are defining a mechanism that is at last superficially similar. And certainly some (but not all) of the motivations in 3.1 might be achieved using SVEC. --- You don't make a lot of mention of RFC 6780. In fact, you only use it to define the association source. I think you need to describe how the PCEP Association maps to the RSVP-TE Association at least at a high level. (Again, I hear you saying that is an issue for the subsequent documents, but I think you have to give a framework. --- Why is there a different timeout for association state and LSP state? You have Association Timeout Interval: when a PCEP session is terminated, a PCC waits for this time period before deleting associations created by the PCEP peer. and The association are properties of the LSP and thus could be stored in the LSP state database. The dynamic association exist as long as the LSP state. In case of PCEP session termination, the LSP state clean up SHOULD also take care of associations. Section 5.3 is not altogether clear and I suspect some of the procedures it describes are not defined in this document but are inherited from another document. --- 3.3 has A range of association identifier for each association-type are kept for the operator-configured associations. Dynamic associations MUST NOT use the association identifier from this range. What error code is used if a dynamic association breaks this rule? I can't see the behavior described. --- As far as I can see, the only reason you need the Operator-configured Association Range TLV is because you allow the Association Source to be set arbitrarily. But there is completely no value in doing that! An association is created by some element in the system and that element needs to be clearly identified. Thus the association ID is not globally unique, but is interpreted in the context of the association source. Now, when a new association is advertised by a PCEP speaker, it only has to fill in itself as the source and then it can choose an association ID freely according to its own configuration an without negotiation with its peers. --- Notwithstanding the previous point, I think there is a slew of error cases with the Operator-configured Association Range TLV that haven't described. The start+range for given type could be larger than 0xffffffff. Two ranges may overlap. The range could be zero. --- 5.1 R (Removal - 1 bit): when set, the requesting PCE peer requires the removal of an LSP from the association group. This flag is used for ASSOCIATION object in PCRpt and PCUpd message, the flag is ignored in other PCEP messages. What does R==0 signify? --- 5.1 Association type (2-byte): the association type (for example protection). The association type are defined in separate documents. You should delete this example as you have no firm evidence that there will be a protection association type. On the other hand, you should reference section 6.4. --- 5.1 Association Source: 4 or 16 bytes - An IPv4 or IPv6 address. This could be the IP address of the PCEP speaker that created a dynamic association, an operator configured IP address, or an IP address selected as per the local policy. The value such as 0.0.0.0 or ::/128 are acceptable. As per my previous comments, I'm not comfortable with a lot of this. If you use anything other than a local identifier (for creating an association) or the identifier used when the association was created (for modifying an existing association) then you have a recipe for complete chaos! It may be that what you want to do here is completely rational, but the explanation is foggy at best. Perhaps an approach is to describe this field as: Association Source: 4 or 16 bytes - An IPv4 or IPv6 address that provides scoping for the Association ID. Then, in the procedures, you can describe for the different cases (e.g., configured, dynamic, created, modified) how the value is assigned and what values are legal. You need to be pretty careful with what addresses are valid, but especially careful with v6 address. --- Nowhere is it clear whether an {Association ID, Association Source} must be unique or can be re-used with a different Association Type. If unique then what happens if a PCEP speaker uses a valid ID/Source pair but gets the Type wrong? Perhaps that would be Error-Value 6 "Association information mismatch". --- 5.2 Presumably a PCErr can also include the . --- 5.2.2 I should have thought that if an association list can be present on a PCReq it would also be returned on the PCRep (with interesting variants like "you can have it in these associations, but not in those", and possible need for an OF or two). --- 5.3 Presumably if the R bit is set and the LSP was not in the association, we act as though it had been and we had removed it? --- 6. It would be hugely wise to go through the document and replace each "TBD" with "TBDn" (for n=1....) so that IANA and the RFC editor can clearly tell which case is which. --- 7. Can I deduce things about customers, the services they have bought, and their relationships from the association information? - that would be a privacy concern. Can I deduce anything about the network from the association source ID? Note that privacy is not just about encrypting info in PCEP messages to stop outsiders snooping it; it is also about only revealing to your peers information that should be shared, and protecting access (e.g., through management tools) to private information. --- 8. Should I be able to see which associations are known about at a PCEP peer and which LSPs belong to them? Should I be able to find out which ranges are (nearly) depleted? --- You have used [I-D.ietf-pce-pceps] in a normative way. ==== Nits... --- A few references seem to be out of date. --- There are quite a few editorial nits which would be good to clean up before sending to the RFC editor. --- Section 5.2 needs a reference to RFC 5511 to give context to the encoding. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric > Sent: 01 February 2018 14:10 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > Hi all, > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your > feedback on the PCE mailing list. This LC will end on Thursday February, 15. 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Fri, 9 Feb 2018 12:08:39 +0100 To: "pce@ietf.org" References: From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 12:08:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Adoption Poll for draft-raghu-pce-lsp-control-request X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:08:43 -0000 Hi all, Thanks to those who responded to the poll. It confirms the consensus we originally had in the room. The I-D is adopted as a WG document. Authors, please submit draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request-00. Cheers, Jon & Julien Jan. 22, 2018 - julien.meuric@orange.com: > Hi all, > > Back in Prague, draft-raghu-pce-lsp-control-request raised clear > interest. Since then, the authors have done their homework, including > the removal of suggested values. Let us now share the question with the > whole WG: do you think draft-raghu-pce-lsp-control-request is a good > foundation for a PCE WG item? > Please send your responses to the PCE list, including rationales in case > of disagreement. > > Thanks, > > Jon & Julien > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > From nobody Fri Feb 9 06:48:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855DB126C0F for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2018 06:48:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Fri, 9 Feb 2018 08:00:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151819200633.1224.7635423997094959345@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 08:00:06 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request-00.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:00:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Ability for a stateful PCE to request and obtain control of a LSP Authors : Aswatnarayan Raghuram Al Goddard Chaitanya Yadlapalli Jay Karthik Siva Sivabalan Jon Parker Dhruv Dhody Filename : draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request-00.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2018-02-09 Abstract: The stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions provide stateful control of Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE LSP) via PCEP, for a model where a Path Computation Client (PCC) delegates control over one or more locally configured LSPs to a stateful PCE. There are use-cases in which a stateful PCE may wish to request and obtain control of one or more LSPs from a PCC. This document describes a simple extension to stateful PCEP to achieve such an objective. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Feb 13 09:04:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143A912D851; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:04:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151854148804.14370.7611188117903242138@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:04:48 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:04:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2018-02-13 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Feb 13 09:09:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7193A126DD9 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:09:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LQCqbl0mRp3H for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A47EE126CE8 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 8C35A71BCFD02 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:09:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:09:25 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.168]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.179]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:09:22 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHTpOzTZbtLUyx4CkWMLVolQUpMUaOikBZw Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:09:22 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF9D48F@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <151854148804.14370.7611188117903242138@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <151854148804.14370.7611188117903242138@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.218.137.166] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:09:30 -0000 Hi, The updated version is to update all the references and to clean up the tex= t for clarity. Please let us know if there is anything that needs to be add= ed in this draft. I am aware of one possible update need for SRP Object to = indicate bi-directional LSP setup (which Adrian posted recently).=20 Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.o= rg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:05 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extension= s for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2018-02-13 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpl= s-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-= 07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Regards, Mustapha. -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:10 AM To: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group Hi all, This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-association= -group-04. Please review and share your feedback on the PCE mailing list. T= his LC will end on Thursday February, 15. 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Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:47:53 +0100 To: References: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Message-ID: <4b700cc2-5bde-e493-027a-72b1bd605198@orange.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:47:53 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:47:57 -0000 Hi, This WG LC has ended. Authors, some comments have been raised (at least by Cyril): please address them. Thanks, Jon & Julien Feb. 01, 2018 - Julien Meuric: > Hi all, > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your > feedback on the PCE mailing list. This LC will end on Thursday February, 15. > > Regards, > > Jon & Julien > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > From nobody Mon Feb 19 03:04:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FDD12025C for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 03:04:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T4CPJGZO0eGe for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 03:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail1.rd.orange.com (p-mail1.rd.orange.com [161.106.1.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9805F127286 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 03:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail1.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id F0B77410256 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:04:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.194.32.11]) by p-mail1.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDB841024D for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:04:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.63] (10.193.71.63) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:04:24 +0100 To: "pce@ietf.org" From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Reply-To: "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Message-ID: <22667726-79e9-cbd8-9571-d5fe28ef2cc2@orange.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:04:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 101 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:04:32 -0000 Hi all, The PCE meeting for London is tentatively scheduled on Tuesday early afternoon (same time as RIFT). If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, please send a slot request to the chairs and secretary by Monday March 5 including: - the draft(s) you want to discuss, - the expected presenter name, - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to using the mailing list (open 24/7). Thank you, Jon & Julien From nobody Mon Feb 19 08:30:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD2A1205F0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:30:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A48Fr5Q-Hme2 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38BF61201F8 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JGU1j5028878; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:30:01 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41152203A; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:30:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC59D2203B; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:30:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 950129200 ([185.228.230.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JGTwOM021563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:30:00 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Julien Meuric'" , References: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> <4b700cc2-5bde-e493-027a-72b1bd605198@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <4b700cc2-5bde-e493-027a-72b1bd605198@orange.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:30:01 -0000 Message-ID: <054d01d3a99e$e47d2510$ad776f30$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGwU/kMf0keiy1FqGxffUtG3S9TQgLqWm2to9tB7iA= Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 185.228.230.58 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-23674.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--21.066-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--21.066-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-23674.001 X-TMASE-Result: 10--21.066400-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: scwq2vQP8OFNX7KC6L8Dnq3GlV8ATaXvI7OxeNfmD+xo5YsPsbyLXZuh 4KJhpnAVTWLw2jvbfpyUyz0rNNhqfvnVY0DWsTq3CFaAixm5eU/2acON9Q+rniJ8zskw0dbrJue jAccQ+DcjypnGhZoY9TL7GX7LrXWiTc13JBBj+TQXrP0cYcrA2y4tncCojEfcH5kZy/EQbgQONn COtDoJBZ6Ss6O2bihGHDnwvr6B+jQYB2fOueQzjzl/1fD/GopdyJ1gFgOMhOn6APa9i04WGCq2r l3dzGQ1A/3R8k/14e0= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:30:06 -0000 In case you all missed it, I also made some comments. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/QSobS2pul-lIlMLXV4KcBhwgBM0 Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric > Sent: 19 February 2018 10:48 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > Hi, > > This WG LC has ended. Authors, some comments have been raised (at least > by Cyril): please address them. > > Thanks, > > Jon & Julien > > > Feb. 01, 2018 - Julien Meuric: > > Hi all, > > > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your > > feedback on the PCE mailing list. This LC will end on Thursday February, 15. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jon & Julien > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pce mailing list > > Pce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Mon Feb 19 08:32:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46001243F6 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:32:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OP6e5zUm0op1 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qt0-x236.google.com (mail-qt0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 575D4124F57 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt0-x236.google.com with SMTP id c19so12902936qtm.7 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:32:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QmdHtErftXPOPiKgTcQ4oSYVMgz5HB/wJFjho/lm7Ls=; b=fNSGPhcopPk/RC8AvjC3NXCQmkV/3lxEmvxzBNvvQzwZdJzAt/DSNI/yoshkiSqU9/ ynU5s741JNFxNVMa7R9exYOrjiuMvVrkT8aQ0c2ez6bBIzjIxIlQz6fwqtz88BKxTjEx RYg82OkEyxj71xeBWqjqDVsokw8gLZR15MuPqnvp/2jbadZRNBKuUoaYuk/euhh7zeLB GyikVipArtJFHBkFCA3n89gCmMY48wR/iuZ2e3Oee2TAPhnX3B16L5lVzDM6u2Fclr5J 2fHHbpBRjPrAi37KWRXIa/c5SSTZE6SaDuXkH/BspzPvWmnkIB5udf1rrb5OWTG2nlB9 dNJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QmdHtErftXPOPiKgTcQ4oSYVMgz5HB/wJFjho/lm7Ls=; b=FbERpx1mHyBPG63YgSk7xHadF3W/54w1S6t6fQ2xxuoHlDdQ67UQ81rtIQYQfcLyJ7 4ZZPOaIoHaPauatpaQXB+QGoYK8hEeof6dSeveQIWwqbDsfLWcPnUrORS4Xk3WWkRv3i C9YspPbulExYaxgscm0ZYCiclCyydpyF9djDy6u9AcwmTfzJ/J+jpf81er9++a6omZV6 S7RGOog5Z3cpFcZZ9ooeiNPNDVyRi34VLFGEkNlxVu9iOPhyvSyE/Onrry4r7KwfF6be HuSnDrG1tg2v28r0chKaKxtWuqvpbLeZL5lb7hoQLioWHfR4yrCG+d1+Qw2OkWWQ5gww H91w== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPA1MBNCsaNi/EgJMC9gcj6NisuE7myxlNfXcIrRAOHVlM/n/prn tGZ7kBSmXYFqVU+fvKEmz068wXUN+YT98Fi8G04= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224IKcDL5Yb4Zj2G77MstyYR0g2Oaq7klgrg1QpdkSMjB8RKvp3bxVo8veT/GBRSZH0UJVNUgv0uLOw2rBrROyM= X-Received: by 10.200.57.97 with SMTP id t30mr14424287qtb.22.1519057932158; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:32:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> <4b700cc2-5bde-e493-027a-72b1bd605198@orange.com> <054d01d3a99e$e47d2510$ad776f30$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <054d01d3a99e$e47d2510$ad776f30$@olddog.co.uk> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:32:01 +0000 Message-ID: To: adrian@olddog.co.uk Cc: Julien Meuric , pce@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113e6bfc7098530565933cbc" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:32:20 -0000 --001a113e6bfc7098530565933cbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Thanks Adrian and Cyril, i will work on handles Ng the comments this week. Regards, Dhruv On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 at 10:00 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > In case you all missed it, I also made some comments. > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/QSobS2pul-lIlMLXV4KcBhwgBM0 > > Adrian > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric > > Sent: 19 February 2018 10:48 > > To: pce@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > > > Hi, > > > > This WG LC has ended. Authors, some comments have been raised (at least > > by Cyril): please address them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon & Julien > > > > > > Feb. 01, 2018 - Julien Meuric: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > > > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your > > > feedback on the PCE mailing list. This LC will end on Thursday > February, 15. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jon & Julien > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pce mailing list > > > Pce@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pce mailing list > > Pce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > --001a113e6bfc7098530565933cbc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=C2=A0

Thanks Adrian and Cyril, i will work on handles Ng the comments t= his week.=C2=A0

Regards,=
Dhruv=C2=A0

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 at 10:00 PM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
In case you all missed it, I also made some comments.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/ar= ch/msg/pce/QSobS2pul-lIlMLXV4KcBhwgBM0

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric
> Sent: 19 February 2018 10:48
> To: pce@ietf.org=
> Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group
>
> Hi,
>
> This WG LC has ended. Authors, some comments have been raised (at leas= t
> by Cyril): please address them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon & Julien
>
>
> Feb. 01, 2018 - Julien Meuric:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for
> > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your=
> > feedback on the PCE mailing list. This LC will end on Thursday Fe= bruary, 15.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon & Julien
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pce mailing list
> > Pce@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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--001a113e6bfc7098530565933cbc-- From nobody Mon Feb 19 08:34:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DDE1241F8; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:34:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K3eBuOMflnpn; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AEA3120713; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JGYVWJ013798; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:34:31 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D8F2203B; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1EA22203A; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 950129200 ([185.228.230.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JGYT2j031326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:34:30 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , References: <22667726-79e9-cbd8-9571-d5fe28ef2cc2@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <22667726-79e9-cbd8-9571-d5fe28ef2cc2@orange.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:34:31 -0000 Message-ID: <054e01d3a99f$85905800$90b10800$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG3TB+BFGsqvy7vBdiCUZfKUXRx0qPkpT7Q Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 185.228.230.58 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-23674.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--2.920-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--2.920-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-23674.001 X-TMASE-Result: 10--2.920000-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: nVQUmLJJeyY4HKI/yaqRm+or0PKDup1CLJm8FOE9WLVSIsssS3AbaIwa jcZh6WRkSa2jCPgREcbYKWx1MEqYQL2JgtyB8x3IW7gz/Gbgpl63Tv9y50YCe/7spkgIRsSyIg4 xefQnKp3q0bBvuA84ZJRM+JY/IUag8dZmGQWcDC6eAiCmPx4NwLTrdaH1ZWqCdcD5PxhxmQPefx 4FmMaZTOTCMddcL/gjxlblqLlYqXL5fX89o7Gl6UucEEfit7LEYVCLa5CWw+wmypnLSXkvAD/ry yPKPxe4xM+6vU5lq6DoqtSX9LjJFTOa9FOLxDIQ9kOv0//W7OA2Fo4EfHNqXY5MJKdFN6D6I9Uh QYuUjidG3TVmsFmvfmY7eqLvyw0k X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 101 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:34:34 -0000 Hi Julien, all. > - the draft(s) you want to discuss, draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03.txt > - the expected presenter name, Adrian Farrel > - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, 10 minutes > - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to using the > mailing list (open 24/7). Weeell, we don't actually have anything to discuss, but we figure that it is now four months since there was general support for moving this forward as WG work, and while we have been working on the text and on implementation, we don't seem to have got any traction with the WG chairs. So, we would spend our 10 minutes helping the chairs prioritise thee WG work :-) Of course, if the WG would like a reminder of what this work is and why it is important, we would happily deliver that. OTOH, rtfm. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-0= 3 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_CY4PR0201MB3603CD490ACD2DB16869765D84CF0CY4PR0201MB3603_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flo= wspec/

 

Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.&= nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.  If yes, please als= o feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: metaswitch.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: b8c052b6-0e75-4a6d-005f-08d57867bf68 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 20 Feb 2018 13:42:13.0396 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 9d9e56eb-f613-4ddb-b27b-bfcdf14b2cdb X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY4PR0201MB3442 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 101 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 13:42:16 -0000 Hi Adrian Thanks for the suggestion and for the gentle reminder. I have just polled = for adoption of this draft. Given this, it does not sound like you will ne= ed this slot, after all. Of course, if the poll throws up issues that must= be discussed, or something else turns up, please feel free to renew your r= equest. Best regards Jon and Julien -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: 19 February 2018 16:35 To: pce-chairs@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 101 Hi Julien, all. > - the draft(s) you want to discuss, draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03.txt > - the expected presenter name, Adrian Farrel > - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, 10 minutes > - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to using the=20 > mailing list (open 24/7). Weeell, we don't actually have anything to discuss, but we figure that it i= s now four months since there was general support for moving this forward a= s WG work, and while we have been working on the text and on implementation= , we don't seem to have got any traction with the WG chairs. So, we would s= pend our 10 minutes helping the chairs prioritise thee WG work :-) Of course, if the WG would like a reminder of what this work is and why it = is important, we would happily deliver that. OTOH, rtfm. 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Regards,
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Jonathan Hardwick &l= t;Jon= athan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

Dear PCE WG

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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/do= c/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

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Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2= =80=9D.=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state your reasons.=C2=A0 If yes, pl= ease also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed onc= e the document is a WG document.

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The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6.

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Many thanks,

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Jon and Julien

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Best Regards, Huaimo From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:34 AM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-0= 3 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D463A514FEsjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/Support.

 

Best Regards,

Huaimo

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:34 AM
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do= not support”.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs= p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, March= 6.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

--_000_5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D463A514FEsjceml521mbschi_-- From nobody Tue Feb 20 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1CC1274D2; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 06:42:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.228 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.228 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VTn3yXipAvRY; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 06:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C0E5124B17; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 06:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 904ED51E2BFFB; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:42:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.39) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:42:30 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.168]) by SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.179]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 06:42:24 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: Jonathan Hardwick , "pce@ietf.org" CC: "draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 Thread-Index: AdOqT1K2wynExQWRTk+o18GneJwUDQACaoJA Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:42:24 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFA0BE1@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.71] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFA0BE1sjceml521mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:42:39 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFA0BE1sjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Yes/support. Thanks, Young From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:34 AM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-0= 3 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFA0BE1sjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,<= /p>

 

Yes/support.

 

Thanks,

Young

 

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:34 AM
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do= not support”.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs= p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, March= 6.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

--_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFA0BE1sjceml521mbschi_-- From nobody Tue Feb 20 07:16:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858DE12D889; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:16:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lMvCzzDsMVLo; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.iomartmail.com (mta5.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14D6A12D881; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (vs3.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.124]) by mta5.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1KFGdff007350; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:39 GMT Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5842204C; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs3.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0337122048; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 950129200 ([185.228.230.69]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1KFGaI0001904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:37 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Jonathan Hardwick'" , Cc: , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:38 -0000 Message-ID: <078501d3aa5d$ceb70e20$6c252a60$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0786_01D3AA5D.CEBBC910" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIHdqZIucHQmBxQb3jdW+LMg11aEaNFzX0w Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 185.228.230.69 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-23674.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--15.727-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--15.727-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-23674.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--15.726900-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: IDdx3MBO6EDvkBiM1eNiXh/XcAla9LsVgRykyfrH1xnaK015iKn7OAC+ sRw3LkeYmg0740cmqMVBMhFtkP12heDBvYycsJwV+z2c4lioPkgZskwWqoib3LBOE9APtGEpXhf sPuvLakP+4Gk2+dHVLxb6s3gffd2RpeAIK6XfhPrK09/T6AzbVi4tncCojEfcuqWf6Nh7tmF5nf tuVZELM/tv8n7fjYVicBsHEPRjHklKDZlLBSf8q/0peXGEEBlvg3XZcphu4ktXG3yI9k2vbIAuO qciU0p01eMp+in9a9PfCoL1Cy7eF/36sqVF/VZoS3OTftLNfg2U9XpVqqLhsPHFoBcOsKeziPsn ePM42N0lrqsYlHhF+jC6IPNP8UWJUeL68LoXEvwFTi5T7nLXai3S35ohUu37krNbLf4aYG5czil UefYvAz+ZqQbT6/3u3rf2hEEVSR5DSkUa9i2161gowyUWHgGdAS/18zRRZh8UtdRZTmEaIV2pa+ aJMbyaDu0z6gr6YMqoLNnd5u4MztsoDJz5OAzc+KUzuemidPyQF91MxEBdRrXvDHySC+eUlSBIv H74wfJrar1QOTCmjzl5+IQAcYVk8lEDYmoBkrPbH8WaUL9qjB2CTNIhL2HPmCNknSXswf8SkGdm Qt+XWYYN+9VEaVI+K6tZv4hqz9XSduMc6RnI+Z1U1lojafr/LZWWNVgH0Y2yy072phvASaPFjJE Fr+ol4E9s12Gvf51cLc3sLtjOt9xWF9NJ0ly4OwBXM346/+zMF13an+cU+/vI0HhIGXf9NdfhLb iKNrZqplUakfLpC0Ui7m+GSYv+ X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:51 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0786_01D3AA5D.CEBBC910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsurprisingly, I also think we should adopt this drafts. To me it seems like a critical piece of function that we "forgot" when we started to allow thee PCE to have control. AFAIK current implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up PCEP messages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how the LSP should be used. We need a consolidated approach. Thanks, Adrian From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34 To: pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. Many thanks, Jon and Julien ------=_NextPart_000_0786_01D3AA5D.CEBBC910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Unsurprisingly, I also = think we should adopt this drafts.

To me it seems like a = critical piece of function that we "forgot" when we started to = allow thee PCE to have control.

AFAIK current = implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up PCEP = messages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how the = LSP should be used.

We need a consolidated = approach.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

From: Pce = [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan = Hardwick
Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34
To: = pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; = pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE = WG

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group = document.

htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/<= /p>

 

Please = review the draft and send an email to the list indicating = “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.  If = indicating no, please state your reasons.  If yes, please also feel = free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document = is a WG document.

 

The poll = ends on Tuesday, March 6.

 

Many = thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

 

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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3601967929_1097862019 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99d =E2=80=9Ccarefully=E2=80=9D support the adoption, while functionality is needed, = and having complete set in a single protocol has its advantages (and complex= ity associated), we already have one =E2=80=9Ckitchen sink=E2=80=9D protocol, that has h= owever been designed to support 100M of entries and deal with bursty data, P= CEP is yet to get there. Deployment consideration section would be of great = value. =20 Cheers, Jeff From: Pce on behalf of Adrian Farrel Reply-To: Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 10:17 To: Jonathan Hardwick , Cc: , Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 =20 Unsurprisingly, I also think we should adopt this drafts. To me it seems like a critical piece of function that we "forgot" when we s= tarted to allow thee PCE to have control. AFAIK current implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up PCEP mess= ages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how the LSP should= be used. We need a consolidated approach. =20 Thanks, Adrian =20 From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34 To: pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 =20 Dear PCE WG =20 This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-0= 3 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ =20 Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/sup= port=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D. If indicating no, please state your rea= sons. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see a= ddressed once the document is a WG document. =20 The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. =20 Many thanks, =20 Jon and Julien =20 _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.o= rg https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce=20 --B_3601967929_1097862019 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

I=E2=80=99d =E2=80=9Ccarefully=E2=80=9D support the adoption= , while functionality is needed, and having complete set in a single protoco= l has its advantages (and complexity associated), we already have one =E2=80=9Ckit= chen sink=E2=80=9D protocol, that has however been designed to support 100M of ent= ries and deal with bursty data, PCEP is yet to get there. Deployment conside= ration section would be of great value.

 

Cheers,<= o:p>

Jeff=

From: Pce <pce-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Adrian Farrel <adrian@oldd= og.co.uk>
Reply-To: <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 10:17
To: Jonathan Hardwick <Jon= athan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>, <pce@ietf.org>
Cc: <pc= e-chairs@ietf.org>, <draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org>
Sub= ject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03<= /o:p>

 

Unsu= rprisingly, I also think we should adopt this drafts.<= /p>

To me it seems like a critical piece of function that we = "forgot" when we started to allow thee PCE to have control.=

AFAIK current implementations "bo= dge" around the issue backing up PCEP messages with other control messa= ges (such as Netconf) to say how the LSP should be used.

We need a consolidated approach.<= /span>

 

Thanks,

Adrian

=  

From:<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-fareast-lan= guage:EN-GB'> Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan= Hardwick
Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34
To: pce@ietf.org<= br>Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE WG

 

= This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03= a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

 

Please review the draft= and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not = support=E2=80=9D.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once = the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tue= sday, March 6.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

 

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--B_3601967929_1097862019-- From nobody Tue Feb 20 09:53:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77549126D0C; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:53:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9b3QY_F7s7bS; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta7.iomartmail.com (mta7.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1CF6126CB6; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta7.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1KHrB9g024259; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:53:11 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A3F22048; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5114822042; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 950129200 ([193.57.121.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1KHr9A3007181 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:53:10 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Jeff Tantsura'" , "'Jonathan Hardwick'" , Cc: , References: <078501d3aa5d$ceb70e20$6c252a60$@olddog.co.uk> <5D38EFEF-BB9C-42A1-BAAF-53888FBAD64E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5D38EFEF-BB9C-42A1-BAAF-53888FBAD64E@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:53:11 -0000 Message-ID: <080b01d3aa73$ad209130$0761b390$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_080C_01D3AA73.AD26D2C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIHdqZIucHQmBxQb3jdW+LMg11aEQF84ovsArez3FOjJFRMUA== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 193.57.121.152 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-23676.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--17.766-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--17.766-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-23676.001 X-TMASE-Result: 10--17.766500-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 8HTFlOrbAtEYENqGQiXbqR3EEAbn+GRbShVPkKm2lvqYfLu5qIysvhvh 8HrJc28Gis0NsEHOuSyQ4xOQpo4LWDDnrUR6qrCS+z2c4lioPkgZskwWqoib3PqHBmU7vV5735d D76rzBffbef4HyJO6zKRgXwqqio5fYFz9rOE5D+NIRA38P/dwbjgKsXDvMF5ba0TOsL14A2nXHG WSOMgQvjOwEjuRiMbQXnV7jKgOtjJviLFHxu+T9o6MisxJraxHPTc9A1vj63+7+NPPxj+R6n9MU W3noMgmZhBx6oDbvC1k372lrQh0cbNUVnqixiMOvHKClHGjjr0NgFUqZt55A5tqp/Uv362UpaLS KSpHii7/vIyUnU/7UajrH0FTFNNwVjB2sAdY1mVCvapcIkxJX/HoOMMtqjdOMPdEXrcs2dXv/72 zC4hJFVhUDZOPhwqIhzKlTm8jzDLDWFe972ARUI7Su3QulAZ5FKliqHKCaOnrKAwxOgrz3aeFnJ sqgWxcQt2470g7veffrLmAIPWViTMbwODjywn+8hUvf4pI2DCRPMCAcbl40qAkf3vialurqBOQu BO1OCBeqXaEhzCXaxMfL/qOWmMdPiAaQSjAgpk2zdLf3NqhdhTbB6yIhfK7Fb73eKpG9ftUPghf caHOS5xNkaIFR3x9rBBSnn/GVMan+dP7GcjVHbiMC5wdwKqddwX/SSKrKHhG2qlFbyxbImpHKtk QBynKTmHc+UGQvkr06zCyefmySBSF8L+KnNGTpYQ/SMviFcMiBAf19LYIBpU4cC9nAOhdUdfEKc 10rU44RDGbByRvWxESBRJlSEUWU6L1rmVqlpGeAiCmPx4NwGmRqNBHmBve1B0Hk1Q1KyL3PDiXO /tFSYVH0dq7wY7unW2DFMgbOMHlesWI4qPL8yAH+l+rorYhgK9s/ygHFxZqlXTi2U65Gg== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:53:16 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_080C_01D3AA73.AD26D2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, I definitely agree with you about kitchen sinks. OTOH, in this case the lack of coordination is actually painful and = creates a mess since each vendor uses a different way to instruct its = devices after a PCinitiate has completed successfully. =20 A Deployment Considerations section sounds just the thing. Maybe we will = lean on you for text after adoption :-) =20 A =20 =20 From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 20 February 2018 15:39 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Jonathan Hardwick'; pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 =20 I=E2=80=99d =E2=80=9Ccarefully=E2=80=9D support the adoption, while = functionality is needed, and having complete set in a single protocol = has its advantages (and complexity associated), we already have one = =E2=80=9Ckitchen sink=E2=80=9D protocol, that has however been designed = to support 100M of entries and deal with bursty data, PCEP is yet to get = there. Deployment consideration section would be of great value. =20 Cheers, Jeff From: Pce on behalf of Adrian Farrel = Reply-To: Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 10:17 To: Jonathan Hardwick , Cc: , Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 =20 Unsurprisingly, I also think we should adopt this drafts. To me it seems like a critical piece of function that we "forgot" when = we started to allow thee PCE to have control. AFAIK current implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up PCEP = messages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how the = LSP should be used. We need a consolidated approach. =20 Thanks, Adrian =20 From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34 To: pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 =20 Dear PCE WG =20 This is the start of a two week poll on making = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document. = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ =20 Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating = =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D. = If indicating no, please state your reasons. If yes, please also feel = free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document = is a WG document. =20 The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. =20 Many thanks, =20 Jon and Julien =20 _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list = Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce=20 ------=_NextPart_000_080C_01D3AA73.AD26D2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jeff, I definitely = agree with you about kitchen sinks.

OTOH, in this case the = lack of coordination is actually painful and creates a mess since each = vendor uses a different way to instruct its devices after a PCinitiate = has completed successfully.

 

A Deployment = Considerations section sounds just the thing. Maybe we will lean on you = for text after adoption :-)

 

A

 

 

From: Jeff Tantsura = [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 February 2018 = 15:39
To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Jonathan Hardwick'; = pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pce] WG = adoption poll for = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

I=E2=80=99d = =E2=80=9Ccarefully=E2=80=9D support the adoption, while functionality is = needed, and having complete set in a single protocol has its advantages = (and complexity associated), we already have one =E2=80=9Ckitchen = sink=E2=80=9D protocol, that has however been designed to support 100M = of entries and deal with bursty data, PCEP is yet to get there. = Deployment consideration section would be of great = value.

 

Cheers,

Jeff

From: = Pce = <pce-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Adrian Farrel = <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Reply-To: = <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Date: Tuesday, February 20, = 2018 at 10:17
To: Jonathan Hardwick = <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>, <pce@ietf.org>
Cc: = <pce-chairs@ietf.org>, = <draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Pce] = WG adoption poll for = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Unsurprisingly, I also = think we should adopt this drafts.

To me it = seems like a critical piece of function that we "forgot" when = we started to allow thee PCE to have control.

AFAIK = current implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up = PCEP messages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how = the LSP should be used.

We need a = consolidated approach.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of = Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: 20 February 2018 = 13:34
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; = pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE = WG

 

This is the start of a = two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working = group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

 

Please review the draft = and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D = or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.  If indicating no, please = state your reasons.  If yes, please also feel free to provide = comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG = document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, = March 6.

 

Many = thanks,

 

Jon and = Julien

 

_______________________________________= ________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce

------=_NextPart_000_080C_01D3AA73.AD26D2C0-- From nobody Tue Feb 20 12:25:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0BB1243F6; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:25:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , julien.meuric@orange.com Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <151915830893.3887.17772584475382874528.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:25:08 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Last Call: (Conveying path setup type in PCEP messages) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:25:09 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to consider the following document: - 'Conveying path setup type in PCEP messages' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-03-06. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract A Path Computation Element can compute Traffic Engineering (TE) paths through a network that are subject to various constraints. Currently, TE paths are Label Switched Paths (LSPs) which are set up using the RSVP-TE signaling protocol. However, other TE path setup methods are possible within the PCE architecture. This document proposes an extension to PCEP to allow support for different path setup methods over a given PCEP session. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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([2607:fb90:40bc:1a5b:2db7:fb37:5925:2025]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i6sm1829509uaa.22.2018.02.21.17.21.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:21:12 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A974FEED-2647-42A2-B2B8-DF5C86D762BD Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jeff Tantsura X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15D60) In-Reply-To: <080b01d3aa73$ad209130$0761b390$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:21:11 -0500 Cc: Jonathan Hardwick , pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org, draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9E3DF062-1A81-4F04-9E93-F5E31EAD077A@gmail.com> References: <078501d3aa5d$ceb70e20$6c252a60$@olddog.co.uk> <5D38EFEF-BB9C-42A1-BAAF-53888FBAD64E@gmail.com> <080b01d3aa73$ad209130$0761b390$@olddog.co.uk> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:21:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-A974FEED-2647-42A2-B2B8-DF5C86D762BD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian, Would be my pleasure ;-) Regards, Jeff > On Feb 20, 2018, at 12:53, Adrian Farrel wrote: >=20 > Jeff, I definitely agree with you about kitchen sinks. > OTOH, in this case the lack of coordination is actually painful and create= s a mess since each vendor uses a different way to instruct its devices afte= r a PCinitiate has completed successfully. > =20 > A Deployment Considerations section sounds just the thing. Maybe we will l= ean on you for text after adoption :-) > =20 > A > =20 > =20 > From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: 20 February 2018 15:39 > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Jonathan Hardwick'; pce@ietf.org > Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 > =20 > I=E2=80=99d =E2=80=9Ccarefully=E2=80=9D support the adoption, while functi= onality is needed, and having complete set in a single protocol has its adva= ntages (and complexity associated), we already have one =E2=80=9Ckitchen sin= k=E2=80=9D protocol, that has however been designed to support 100M of entri= es and deal with bursty data, PCEP is yet to get there. Deployment considera= tion section would be of great value. > =20 > Cheers, > Jeff > From: Pce on behalf of Adrian Farrel > Reply-To: > Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 10:17 > To: Jonathan Hardwick , > Cc: , > Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 > =20 > Unsurprisingly, I also think we should adopt this drafts. > To me it seems like a critical piece of function that we "forgot" when we s= tarted to allow thee PCE to have control. > AFAIK current implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up PCEP mes= sages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how the LSP shoul= d be used. > We need a consolidated approach. > =20 > Thanks, > Adrian > =20 > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick > Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34 > To: pce@ietf.org > Cc: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 > =20 > Dear PCE WG > =20 > This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-= 03 a PCE working group document. > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ > =20 > Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9C= yes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D. If indicating n= o, please state your reasons. If yes, please also feel free to provide comm= ents you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > =20 > The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. > =20 > Many thanks, > =20 > Jon and Julien > =20 > _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.= org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce --Apple-Mail-A974FEED-2647-42A2-B2B8-DF5C86D762BD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian,

Would be my plea= sure ;-)

Regards,
Jeff
=

On Feb 20, 2018, at 12:53, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:

Jeff= , I definitely agree with you about kitchen sinks.

OTOH, in this case the lack of coordination is actually painful and cre= ates a mess since each vendor uses a different way to instruct its devices a= fter a PCinitiate has completed successfully.

<= o:p> 

A Deployment Considerations section sou= nds just the thing. Maybe we will lean on you for text after adoption :-)

 

A

 

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From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com]
= Sent: 20 February 2018 15:39
To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Jonathan Hardwick'; pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pc= e] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

<= /div>

 

I=E2=80=99d =E2=80=9C= carefully=E2=80=9D support the adoption, while functionality is needed, and h= aving complete set in a single protocol has its advantages (and complexity a= ssociated), we already have one =E2=80=9Ckitchen sink=E2=80=9D protocol, tha= t has however been designed to support 100M of entries and deal with bursty d= ata, PCEP is yet to get there. Deployment consideration section would be of g= reat value.

 

Cheers,

Jeff

From: Pce <pce-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Adrian Fa= rrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk><= br>Reply-To: <adrian@olddog= .co.uk>
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 10:17
To:= Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>, <pce@ietf.org>
Cc: <pce-chairs@ietf.org>, <draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org>
Subject= : Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Unsurprisingly, I also think we should adopt th= is drafts.

=

To me it seems= like a critical piece of function that we "forgot" when we started to allow= thee PCE to have control.

AFAIK current implementations "bodge" around the issue backing up PCEP= messages with other control messages (such as Netconf) to say how the LSP s= hould be used.<= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-US">

We nee= d a consolidated approach.

 

<= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Thanks,<= /span>

Adrian<= span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">

 

From: Pce= [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] <= b>On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34<= br>To: pce@ietf.org
Cc:= draft-li-pce-pcep-fl= owspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.= org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flow= spec-03

=

 

Dear PC= E WG

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep= -flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowsp= ec/<= span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">

 

Please review the draft and send an email t= o the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not su= pport=E2=80=9D.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  If y= es, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed on= ce the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6.=

 

Many thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

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= --Apple-Mail-A974FEED-2647-42A2-B2B8-DF5C86D762BD-- From nobody Wed Feb 21 17:31:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5374E12E049; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:31:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pHutf83s0ZZ4; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93E9B12E048; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id C90492F13E816; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:31:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML414-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.75) by lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:31:44 +0000 Received: from NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::a54a:89d2:c471:ff]) by nkgeml414-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:31:36 +0800 From: Zhuangshunwan To: Jonathan Hardwick , "pce@ietf.org" CC: "draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 Thread-Index: AdOrfLvz31ktyviES8KUOnqlrtDWnA== Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:31:36 +0000 Message-ID: <19AB2A007F56DB4E8257F949A2FB9858CDAD738C@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.202.166] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_19AB2A007F56DB4E8257F949A2FB9858CDAD738CNKGEML515MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:31:48 -0000 --_000_19AB2A007F56DB4E8257F949A2FB9858CDAD738CNKGEML515MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 WWVzL1N1cHBvcnQuDQoNCkJlc3QgUmVnYXJkcywNClNodW53YW4NCg0KDQq3orz+yMs6IFBjZSBb bWFpbHRvOnBjZS1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnXSC0+rHtIEpvbmF0aGFuIEhhcmR3aWNrDQq3osvN yrG85DogMjAxOMTqMtTCMjDI1SAyMTozNA0KytW8/sjLOiBwY2VAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCrOty806IGRy YWZ0LWxpLXBjZS1wY2VwLWZsb3dzcGVjQGlldGYub3JnOyBwY2UtY2hhaXJzQGlldGYub3JnDQrW 98ziOiBbUGNlXSBXRyBhZG9wdGlvbiBwb2xsIGZvciBkcmFmdC1saS1wY2UtcGNlcC1mbG93c3Bl Yy0wMw0KDQpEZWFyIFBDRSBXRw0KDQpUaGlzIGlzIHRoZSBzdGFydCBvZiBhIHR3byB3ZWVrIHBv bGwgb24gbWFraW5nIGRyYWZ0LWxpLXBjZS1wY2VwLWZsb3dzcGVjLTAzIGEgUENFIHdvcmtpbmcg Z3JvdXAgZG9jdW1lbnQuDQpodHRwczovL2RhdGF0cmFja2VyLmlldGYub3JnL2RvYy9kcmFmdC1s aS1wY2UtcGNlcC1mbG93c3BlYy8NCg0KUGxlYXNlIHJldmlldyB0aGUgZHJhZnQgYW5kIHNlbmQg YW4gZW1haWwgdG8gdGhlIGxpc3QgaW5kaWNhdGluZyChsHllcy9zdXBwb3J0obEgb3IgobBuby9k byBub3Qgc3VwcG9ydKGxLiAgSWYgaW5kaWNhdGluZyBubywgcGxlYXNlIHN0YXRlIHlvdXIgcmVh c29ucy4gIElmIHllcywgcGxlYXNlIGFsc28gZmVlbCBmcmVlIHRvIHByb3ZpZGUgY29tbWVudHMg eW91J2QgbGlrZSB0byBzZWUgYWRkcmVzc2VkIG9uY2UgdGhlIGRvY3VtZW50IGlzIGEgV0cgZG9j dW1lbnQuDQoNClRoZSBwb2xsIGVuZHMgb24gVHVlc2RheSwgTWFyY2ggNi4NCg0KTWFueSB0aGFu a3MsDQoNCkpvbiBhbmQgSnVsaWVuDQoNCg== --_000_19AB2A007F56DB4E8257F949A2FB9858CDAD738CNKGEML515MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/Support.

 

Best Regards,

Shunwan

 

 

=B7= =A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Jonathan Hardwick
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2018=C4=EA2=D4=C220=C8=D5 21:34
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: pce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec= @ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [Pce] WG adoption poll for= draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do no= t support=A1=B1.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  I= f yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, March= 6.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

--_000_19AB2A007F56DB4E8257F949A2FB9858CDAD738CNKGEML515MBXchi_-- From nobody Wed Feb 21 17:54:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF40212E049; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:54:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MJMmO-EuO6Rr; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from post-send.kddi.com (athena4.kddi.com [27.90.165.197]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144DA126C83; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from LTMC2122.kddi.com (post-send [10.206.2.120]) by post-send.kddi.com (KDDI Mail) with ESMTP id 2F3E31200D5; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:54:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC2144.kddi.com ([10.206.0.236] [10.206.0.236]) by LTMC2122.kddi.com with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:54:34 +0900 Received: from LTMC2144.kddi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.kddi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FF64C005E; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:54:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC2154.kddi.com (post-incheck [10.206.0.239]) by LTMC2144.kddi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1ECB4C005C; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:54:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC2154.kddi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by LTMC2154.kddi.com with ESMTP id w1M1sXnO056666; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:54:33 +0900 Received: from LTMC2154.kddi.com.mid_23124757 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by LTMC2154.kddi.com with ESMTP id w1M1iUOp043110; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:44:30 +0900 X-SA-MID: 23124757 Received: from KDDI1312PC0461 ([10.210.106.177] [10.210.106.177]) by post-smtp2.kddi.com with ESMTPA; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:44:30 +0900 From: "Takuya Miyasaka" To: "'Jonathan Hardwick'" , Cc: , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:44:30 +0900 Message-ID: <004201d3ab7e$ae4ff120$0aefd360$@kddi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIHdqZIucHQmBxQb3jdW+LMg11aEaNID47Q Content-Language: ja X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:54:37 -0000 Yes/Support Thanks, Takuya > -----Original Message----- > > Dear PCE WG > > > > This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ > > > > Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating > no, please state your reasons. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the > document is a WG document. > > > > The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Jon and Julien > > From nobody Wed Feb 21 18:18:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC295126CC4; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:18:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0VKAYaHjcOOL; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E5B4126BF7; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML711-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 44DF84C8C27A2; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:18:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEMM422-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.1.198.39) by LHREML711-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:18:10 +0000 Received: from DGGEMM512-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.61]) by dggemm422-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.198.39]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:18:03 +0800 From: Lizhenbin To: Jonathan Hardwick , "pce@ietf.org" CC: "pce-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 Thread-Index: AdOqT1K2wynExQWRTk+o18GneJwUDQBM9mvA Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:18:03 +0000 Message-ID: <5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F3CD76B@dggemm512-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.206.84] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F3CD76Bdggemm512mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogV0cgYWRvcHRpb24gcG9sbCBmb3IgZHJhZnQtbGkt?= =?gb2312?b?cGNlLXBjZXAtZmxvd3NwZWMtMDM=?= X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 02:18:15 -0000 --_000_5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F3CD76Bdggemm512mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eWVzL3N1cHBvcnQgKGFzIHRoZSBjby1hdXRob3IpLg0KDQpCZXN0IFJlZ2FyZHMsDQpaaGVuYmlu KFJvYmluKQ0KDQoNCreivP7IyzogSm9uYXRoYW4gSGFyZHdpY2sgW21haWx0bzpKb25hdGhhbi5I YXJkd2lja0BtZXRhc3dpdGNoLmNvbV0NCreiy83KsbzkOiAyMDE4xOoy1MIyMMjVIDIxOjM0DQrK 1bz+yMs6IHBjZUBpZXRmLm9yZw0Ks63LzTogcGNlLWNoYWlyc0BpZXRmLm9yZzsgZHJhZnQtbGkt cGNlLXBjZXAtZmxvd3NwZWNAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCtb3zOI6IFdHIGFkb3B0aW9uIHBvbGwgZm9yIGRy YWZ0LWxpLXBjZS1wY2VwLWZsb3dzcGVjLTAzDQoNCkRlYXIgUENFIFdHDQoNClRoaXMgaXMgdGhl IHN0YXJ0IG9mIGEgdHdvIHdlZWsgcG9sbCBvbiBtYWtpbmcgZHJhZnQtbGktcGNlLXBjZXAtZmxv d3NwZWMtMDMgYSBQQ0Ugd29ya2luZyBncm91cCBkb2N1bWVudC4NCmh0dHBzOi8vZGF0YXRyYWNr ZXIuaWV0Zi5vcmcvZG9jL2RyYWZ0LWxpLXBjZS1wY2VwLWZsb3dzcGVjLw0KDQpQbGVhc2UgcmV2 aWV3IHRoZSBkcmFmdCBhbmQgc2VuZCBhbiBlbWFpbCB0byB0aGUgbGlzdCBpbmRpY2F0aW5nIKGw eWVzL3N1cHBvcnShsSBvciChsG5vL2RvIG5vdCBzdXBwb3J0obEuICBJZiBpbmRpY2F0aW5nIG5v LCBwbGVhc2Ugc3RhdGUgeW91ciByZWFzb25zLiAgSWYgeWVzLCBwbGVhc2UgYWxzbyBmZWVsIGZy ZWUgdG8gcHJvdmlkZSBjb21tZW50cyB5b3UnZCBsaWtlIHRvIHNlZSBhZGRyZXNzZWQgb25jZSB0 aGUgZG9jdW1lbnQgaXMgYSBXRyBkb2N1bWVudC4NCg0KVGhlIHBvbGwgZW5kcyBvbiBUdWVzZGF5 LCBNYXJjaCA2Lg0KDQpNYW55IHRoYW5rcywNCg0KSm9uIGFuZCBKdWxpZW4NCg0K --_000_5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F3CD76Bdggemm512mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

yes/support (as the co-author).=

 

Best Regards,=

Zhenbin(Robin)

 

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2018= =C4=EA2=D4= =C220=C8=D5 21:34
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: pce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do no= t support=A1=B1.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  I= f yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, March= 6.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

--_000_5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F3CD76Bdggemm512mbxchi_-- From nobody Fri Feb 23 00:52:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7DB126BF0; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 00:52:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.491 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.491 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL=0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3=1.482, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9mcJA2Ojv--T; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 00:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (m176115.mail.qiye.163.com [59.111.176.115]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F88A1270A0; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 00:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from WangajPC (unknown [219.142.69.76]) by m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id 8D1826626FB; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:59 +0800 (CST) From: "Aijun Wang" To: "'Jonathan Hardwick'" , Cc: , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:59 +0800 Message-ID: <007801d3ac83$914ea520$b3ebef60$@org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01D3ACC6.9F71E520" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdOqT1K2wynExQWRTk+o18GneJwUDQCNDDwA Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kIGBQJHllBS1VLV1koWUFKTEtLSjdXWS1ZQUlXWQkOFx4IWUFZMjUtOj cyP0FLVUtZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6OBg6Oio6TTo4AUs8FVYPOAIx TDgaFCxVSlVKTkpCSExOQklPQ0lIVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxNWVdZCAFZQUxMSkI3Bg++ X-HM-Tid: 0a61c1dcaa5e9373kuws8d1826626fb Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogIFdHIGFkb3B0aW9uIHBvbGwgZm9yIGRyYWZ0LWxp?= =?gb2312?b?LXBjZS1wY2VwLWZsb3dzcGVjLTAz?= X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:52:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01D3ACC6.9F71E520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/Support =20 =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Jonathan Hardwick = [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2018=C4=EA2=D4=C220=C8=D5 21:34 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: pce@ietf.org =B3=AD=CB=CD: draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org =D6=F7=CC=E2: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 =20 Dear PCE WG =20 This is the start of a two week poll on making = draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/ =20 Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do not support=A1=B1. If indicating = no, please state your reasons. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd = like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. =20 The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6. =20 Many thanks, =20 Jon and Julien =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01D3ACC6.9F71E520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0079_01D3ACC6.9F71E520-- From nobody Fri Feb 23 08:51:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6AF127136 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:51:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.231 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.231 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zHE10UX0QYkw for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34B2D1241F3 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 8E4511712C2D7 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from BLREML703-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.172) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:28 +0000 Received: from BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.9.103]) by blreml703-cah.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:21:19 +0530 From: Dhruv Dhody To: "'adrian@olddog.co.uk'" , "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group Thread-Index: AQHTm2Z2l8M59v/hrUCVuwJgcObqj6OUUEeAgBurMMA= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:18 +0000 Message-ID: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D62F21C@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <0f2b67ec-9d27-7f90-f069-497b3a5d86f3@orange.com> <00a801d39df1$a824f5b0$f86ee110$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <00a801d39df1$a824f5b0$f86ee110$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.79.80] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:35 -0000 Hi Adrian,=20 Thanks for your review and suggestions. I could not get to this earlier, ap= ologies for that! Please see inline... Diff: https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft= -ietf-pce-association-group-04.txt&url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com= /dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/master/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05.txt Txt: https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft-ietf-pce-a= ssociation-group-05.txt > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 05 February 2018 01:22 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group >=20 > This is an important piece of work and there are a number of drafts > dependent on it that will provide useful function. So we should definitel= y > push forward to publication, but we also have to get this foundational > document right otherwise we will struggle later. >=20 > I have some moderate-sized issues set out below. Most just need editorial > work although a couple are more substantive technical points that may nee= d > changes or better explanation. >=20 > Thanks for the work. >=20 > Adrian >=20 > --- >=20 > I spent a lot of time trying to understand the relationship between the > svec-list and the association group. This understanding was not enhanced > by this document since the mention of svec is actually only in the RBNF i= n > section 5.2.2. I think the only thing to do to make this clear is to add = a > specific section "Relationship with the SVEC List" and use that to explai= n > how the two constructs relate. >=20 > Now, I know that this document doesn't define any Association Types, and > that might mean that you think you don't have to describe the > relationship: "It is up to the documents that define individual > Association Types," you may say. But I think you have to give some > guidance in this document since you are defining a mechanism that is at > last superficially similar. And certainly some (but not all) of the > motivations in 3.1 might be achieved using SVEC. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] I don't see a harm in tackling with SVEC in this document. = I have added -=20 3.2. Relationship with the SVEC List Note that, [RFC5440] defines a mechanism for the synchronization of a set of path computation requests by using the SVEC (Synchronization VECtor) object, that specifies the list of synchronized requests that can either be dependent or independent. The SVEC object identify the relationship between the set of path computation requests, identified by 'Request-ID-number' in RP (Request Parameters) object. [RFC6007] further clarifies the use of the SVEC list for synchronized path computations when computing dependent requests as well as describes a number of usage scenarios for SVEC lists within single-domain and multi-domain environments. The motivation behind the association group defined in this document and the SVEC object are quite different. The PCEP extensions that defines new association type, should clarify the relationship between SVEC object and association type, if any. Let me know if you wish to add anything else?=20 > --- >=20 > You don't make a lot of mention of RFC 6780. In fact, you only use it to > define the association source. I think you need to describe how the PCEP > Association maps to the RSVP-TE Association at least at a high level. > (Again, I hear you saying that is an issue for the subsequent documents, > but I think you have to give a framework. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Sure, I have added -=20 [RFC6780] defines the RSVP ASSOCIATION object, which was defined in the context of GMPLS- controlled Label Switched Paths (LSPs) to be used to associate recovery LSPs with the LSP they are protecting. This object also has broader applicability as a mechanism to associate RSVP state and [RFC6780] described how the ASSOCIATION object can be more generally applied. ... 5.2. Relationship with the RSVP ASSOCIATION The format of PCEP ASSOCIATION Object defined in this document, is aligned with the RSVP ASSOCIATION object ([RFC6780]). Various Association-Types related to RSVP association are defined in [RFC4872], [RFC4873], and [RFC7551]. The PCEP extensions that defines new association type, should clarify how the PCEP association would work with RSVP association and vice-versa. > --- >=20 > Why is there a different timeout for association state and LSP state? >=20 > You have >=20 > Association Timeout Interval: when a PCEP session is terminated, a > PCC waits for this time period before deleting associations created > by the PCEP peer. >=20 > and >=20 > The association are properties of the LSP and thus could be stored in > the LSP state database. The dynamic association exist as long as the > LSP state. In case of PCEP session termination, the LSP state clean > up SHOULD also take care of associations. >=20 > Section 5.3 is not altogether clear and I suspect some of the procedures > it describes are not defined in this document but are inherited from > another document. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] "Association Timeout Interval" has been removed but not cle= aned up from the terminology section; thanks for pointing that out.=20 Regarding section 5.3 (now 5.4), I have made some modifications, please hav= e a look.=20 > --- >=20 > 3.3 has >=20 > A range of association identifier for each association-type are kept > for the operator-configured associations. Dynamic associations MUST > NOT use the association identifier from this range. >=20 > What error code is used if a dynamic association breaks this rule? I can'= t > see the behavior described. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added -=20 If a PCEP speaker receives ASSOCIATION object for an operator configured association and the association identifier is not in the operator-configured association range for the association-type and association-source, it MUST return a PCErr message with Error-Type 26 (Early allocation by IANA) "Association Error" and Error-Value 8 "Association identifier not in range". > --- >=20 > As far as I can see, the only reason you need the Operator-configured > Association Range TLV is because you allow the Association Source to be > set arbitrarily. But there is completely no value in doing that! An > association is created by some element in the system and that element > needs to be clearly identified. Thus the association ID is not globally > unique, but is interpreted in the context of the association source. >=20 > Now, when a new association is advertised by a PCEP speaker, it only has > to fill in itself as the source and then it can choose an association ID > freely according to its own configuration an without negotiation with its > peers. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] It is the combination of Association ID, Type and Source th= at uniquely identifies an association group, I have clarified this as assoc= iation parameters in the draft. Because of the operator configured manual a= ssociations and for the PCE redundancy cases, the mandate of using a PCEP s= peaker address only was found to be limiting.=20 We received inputs from other association drafts authors, and in consultati= on with the WG we decided to allow other values for the source.=20 Now we needed to solve a conflict problem for an association type that allo= ws both dynamic and operator-configured associations (and uses the same ass= ociation source). You are right that one way to solve this would be to mand= ate that operator configured association to not use PCEP speaker address as= source and avoid a clash, but that would lead us back to the original text= which mandated the usage of association source; we thought using range as = good way out (as it would be needed only for a few of those association typ= es that are both dynamic and operator configured).=20 I have added an example in appendix as well for the range. =20 > --- >=20 > Notwithstanding the previous point, I think there is a slew of error case= s > with the Operator-configured Association Range TLV that haven't described= . > The start+range for given type could be larger than 0xffffffff. Two range= s > may overlap. The range could be zero. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Thanks for pointing that out. I have added text for this ca= ses.=20 Range (2 bytes): The number of associations marked for the Operator-configured Associations. The Range MUST be greater than 0, and it MUST be such that (Start-Assoc-ID + Range) do not cross the association identifier range of 0xffff. ... If the Start-Assoc-ID or Range are set incorrectly, the PCEP session MUST be rejected with error type 1 and error value 1 (PCEP session establishment failure / Reception of an invalid Open message). > --- >=20 > 5.1 >=20 > R (Removal - 1 bit): when set, the requesting PCE peer requires the > removal of an LSP from the association group. This flag is used > for ASSOCIATION object in PCRpt and PCUpd message, the flag is > ignored in other PCEP messages. >=20 > What does R=3D=3D0 signify? >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Not removal! :)=20 Do you see a need for some text here? (This would be similar to R flag in L= SP object for PCRpt?)=20 > --- >=20 > 5.1 >=20 > Association type (2-byte): the association type (for example > protection). The association type are defined in separate documents. >=20 > You should delete this example as you have no firm evidence that there > will be a protection association type. On the other hand, you should > reference section 6.4. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Ok > --- >=20 > 5.1 >=20 > Association Source: 4 or 16 bytes - An IPv4 or IPv6 address. This > could be the IP address of the PCEP speaker that created a dynamic > association, an operator configured IP address, or an IP address > selected as per the local policy. The value such as 0.0.0.0 or > ::/128 are acceptable. >=20 > As per my previous comments, I'm not comfortable with a lot of this. > If you use anything other than a local identifier (for creating an > association) or the identifier used when the association was created (for > modifying an existing association) then you have a recipe for complete > chaos! >=20 > It may be that what you want to do here is completely rational, but the > explanation is foggy at best. Perhaps an approach is to describe this > field as: >=20 > Association Source: 4 or 16 bytes - An IPv4 or IPv6 address that > provides scoping for the Association ID. >=20 > Then, in the procedures, you can describe for the different cases > (e.g., configured, dynamic, created, modified) how the value is assigned > and what values are legal. You need to be pretty careful with what > addresses are valid, but especially careful with v6 address. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Thanks for the suggestion, please check the updated version= if you are happy with the updated text. There is a separate section on ass= ociation source now as -=20 5.1.3. Association Source The Association Source field in the ASSOCIATION object is set to a valid IP address to identify the node that originate the association. In case of dynamic associations, the association source is usually set as the local PCEP speaker address, unless local policy dictates otherwise, in which case association source is set based on the local policy. In case of PCE redundancy, local policy could set the source as virtual IP which identify all instances of PCE. In case of operator configured association, the association source is manually configured and it could be set as one of the PCEP speakers, Network Management System (NMS), or any other valid IP address that scopes the association identifier for the association type.=20 > --- >=20 > Nowhere is it clear whether an {Association ID, Association Source} must > be unique or can be re-used with a different Association Type. > If unique then what happens if a PCEP speaker uses a valid ID/Source pair > but gets the Type wrong? Perhaps that would be Error-Value 6 "Association > information mismatch". >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added this -=20 5.1.4. Unique Identification for an Association Group The combination of the mandatory fields Association type, Association ID and Association Source in the ASSOCIATION object uniquely identify the association group. If the optional TLVs - Global Association Source or Extended Association ID are included, then they MUST be included in combination with mandatory fields to uniquely identifying the association group. In this document, all these fields are called 'association parameters'. Note that the ASSOCIATION object MAY include other optional TLVs (not defined in this document) based on the association types, that provides 'information' related to the association type, this document uses the term 'association information' for it. =20 BTW, you are right about the error!=20 > --- >=20 > 5.2 >=20 > Presumably a PCErr can also include the . >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] We don't carry the 'offending' object in PCErr, thus do not= see a need for extending PCErr. =20 > --- >=20 > 5.2.2 >=20 > I should have thought that if an association list can be present on a > PCReq it would also be returned on the PCRep (with interesting variants > like "you can have it in these associations, but not in those", and > possible need for an OF or two). >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] With NO-PATH this could be useful. I have added it in the u= pdate (section 5.3.3) > --- >=20 > 5.3 >=20 > Presumably if the R bit is set and the LSP was not in the association, we > act as though it had been and we had removed it? >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] We have this text in the draft -=20 If a PCEP speaker receives ASSOCIATION object with R bit set for removal, and the association group (identified by association parameters) is not known, it MUST return a PCErr message with Error- Type 26 (Early allocation by IANA) "Association Error" and Error- Value 4 "Association unknown". Since this LSP is not in the association, we considered this as an associat= ion not known in the context of the LSP and re-used the error. If this is n= ot clear we could define a new error-value instead?=20 > --- >=20 > 6. >=20 > It would be hugely wise to go through the document and replace each "TBD" > with "TBDn" (for n=3D1....) so that IANA and the RFC editor can clearly t= ell > which case is which. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack, we already have early IANA allocation we have reflecte= d that in this update of the draft.=20 > --- >=20 > 7. >=20 > Can I deduce things about customers, the services they have bought, and > their relationships from the association information? - that would be a > privacy concern. >=20 > Can I deduce anything about the network from the association source ID? >=20 > Note that privacy is not just about encrypting info in PCEP messages to > stop outsiders snooping it; it is also about only revealing to your peers > information that should be shared, and protecting access (e.g., through > management tools) to private information. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added this -=20 Much of the information carried in the ASSOCIATION object, as per this document is not extra sensitive. It often reflects information that can also be derived from the LSP Database, but association provides a much easier grouping of related LSPs and messages. Implementations and operator can and should use indirect values in ASSOCIATION as a way to hide any sensitive business relationships. Do you have any additional text on this?=20 > --- >=20 > 8. >=20 > Should I be able to see which associations are known about at a PCEP peer > and which LSPs belong to them? >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] We have this in 8.2 -=20 8.2. Information and Data Models An implementation SHOULD allow the operator to view the associations configured or created dynamically. Further implementation SHOULD allow to view associations reported by each peer, and the current set of LSPs in the association. To serve this purpose, the PCEP YANG module [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-yang] includes association groups. It might also be useful to find out how many associations for each association type currently exist and to know how many free association identifiers are available for a particular association type and source. > Should I be able to find out which ranges are (nearly) depleted? >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Added (see above).=20 > --- >=20 > You have used [I-D.ietf-pce-pceps] in a normative way. >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack.=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Nits... >=20 > --- >=20 > A few references seem to be out of date. >=20 > --- >=20 > There are quite a few editorial nits which would be good to clean up > before sending to the RFC editor. >=20 > --- >=20 > Section 5.2 needs a reference to RFC 5511 to give context to the encoding= . >=20 [[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack (for all nits!)=20 Thanks again for your review and great set of comments!=20 Regards, Dhruv > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric > > Sent: 01 February 2018 14:10 > > To: pce@ietf.org > > Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > > > Hi all, > > > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. 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To: "pce@ietf.org" , TEAS WG From: Organization: Orange X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <9E700233-75FF-40D2-ADD7-B81DB031276F@i.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: <20340_1519405602_5A904A22_20340_243_1_31c67864-1d50-f70b-17fb-0d22a4a7cb86@orange.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:06:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9E700233-75FF-40D2-ADD7-B81DB031276F@i.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [10.168.234.4] Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] iPOP 2018 Submission Deadline Extended (March 9) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:06:50 -0000 FYI [Apologies, if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Call for Presentation (Submission Deadline Extended) 14th International Conference on IP + Optical Network (iPOP 2018) May 31 - June 1, 2018 NICT Koganei Headquarter, Koganei, Tokyo Japan https://www.pilab.jp/ipop2018/ Important Dates: Submission deadline of one-page abstract: March 9, 2018 (Extended) Notification of acceptance: April 3, 2018 Submission deadline of final presentation slides: May 7, 2018 The conference is intended to share the knowledge, new findings, and experiences on the state-of-the art of IP and optical networking technologies among the industry and the academia. It features technical sessions and exhibitions. The opportunity to participate is open to all. The Technical Program Committee (TPC) for iPOP 2018 is soliciting presentation proposals for this conference. Protocol design, experiments, theories, implementations, and operational experiences are solicited. The topics of the conference will include but not be limited to the following: * SDN/NFV expectation and Mobile Edge Computing (MEC) for 5G * AI-assisted/autonomous operation and control * Automation of network operation and management (zero touch provisioning, etc.) * Intent-based networking * Policy-based management * SDN for packet and optical transport networks * Network abstraction/virtualization * Service function chaining * Control of network slices * Open Source Software (OSS) for SDN/NFV * Network requirement for IoT * Optical networking/switching for cloud services * Control plane (MPLS/GMPLS, OpenFlow, etc.) * Multi-Layer/Region Networks (MLN/MRN) * Traffic Engineering (TE), Path Computation Element (PCE) * Flex-grid/elastic optical networks * Data center and WAN orchestration * Carrier Ethernet and MPLS-TP for backhauling * Quality of Service/Experience (QoS/QoE) * Standardization/interoperability If you wish to submit a topic for consideration, please send an extended abstract of 400 words and a maximum of 1 page, including figures and diagrams, speakerfs name, affiliation, and contact information to the TPC at ipop2018-cfp@pilab.jp. 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From nobody Mon Feb 26 06:55:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE9712D864; Mon, 26 Feb 2018 06:55:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roni Even To: Cc: pce@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151965692093.31478.13701823396454241011@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 06:55:20 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:55:21 -0000 Reviewer: Roni Even Review result: Almost Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-?? Reviewer: Roni Even Review Date: 2018-02-26 IETF LC End Date: 2018-03-06 IESG Telechat date: 2018-04-05 Summary: The document is almost ready for publication as standard track RFC Major issues: Minor issues: 1. in section 7.2 "The allocation policy for this new registry should be by IETF Consensus" why not use one of RFC8126 well known policies? Nits/editorial comments: From nobody Mon Feb 26 08:36:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4A5124239; Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:36:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151966296698.31295.10437205742712100569@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:36:07 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-08.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:36:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-08.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-02-26 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 26 08:58:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03A01200FC for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:58:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8CLT33Jg-ydx for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using 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So, I think Quan is= asking how to use a PCInitiate message to cause the creation of a "co-routed" bidirectional LSP that is achieved in the signaling = plane by a single Path/Resv exchange.

 

That is *G*MPLS fun= ction, but an answer would still be useful.

 

Now, on a PCReq you= need the B-bit to tell the PCE to compute a bidirectional path. But what you should be looking at is the PCRep message. That is, how does the = PCE indicate that a bidirectional path has been returned? And the answer is= two points:

 

1. Since the reques= ter asked for a bidirectional path, and since a path has been computed, the PCC has every right to assume that the path can be used for a bidirect= ional LSP.

 

2. The RP Object is= present on the PCRep and also contains thee B-flag.

 

Now, note that the = PCInitiate most closely follows the PCRep. That is, it flows from PCE to PCC and indicates the path of the LSP to be set up.

 

Now, the PCInitiate= carries the SRP Object, not the RP Object (just like PCUpd message).<= /o:p>

 

There is a flags fi= eld in the SRP Object, but the only bit defined is in 8281 for LSP removal.

 

So, to expand on Qu= an's question: how do we Update an LSP that was set up with the B-flag in the RP object, and how do we create an bidirectional LSP using PCInitia= te message?

 

It is fine if the a= nswer is "This is GMPLS function that possibly should not have been in 5440, and we need to look at some additional work for GMPLS extensions = for 8231 and 8281."

 

draft-ietf-pce-pcep= -stateful-pce-gmpls is a starting point and should, perhaps, define a B flag for the SRP on the PCUpd that would then also be available automa= tically on the PCInitiate.

 

Yours ramblingly,

Adrian

 

 

 

 

Pce [= mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of xiong.quan@zte.com.cn
Sent: 24 January 2018 09:21
To: dhruv.dhody@huawei.com
Cc: robert.varga@pantheon.tech; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ie= tf.org; hu.fangwei@relay.zte.com.cn; msiva@cisco.com; pce@ietf.org; edward.= crabbe@gmail.com
Subject: [Pce] =B4=F0=B8=B4: Re: A question about RFC8281 PCE-initiated LSPs.

 

Hi Dhruv,


I agree PCInitiate message including the ASSOCIATION Object may create a ne= w LSP.

But it still need to create bi-directional LSP by two messages.

In some scenario, like PTN, we need to establish a bi-directional LSP by on= e message of a PCE request.

In my opinion, this is the requirement to create a bi-directional LSP by a =  PCInitiate message.


Thanks,
Quan



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Subject: Re: [Pce] A question about RFC8281 PCE-initiated LSPs.
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:21:15 +0000
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Hi Quan,

 

As per [1]:
       A PCE initiating a new LSP, can include the asso= ciation group
   information.  This is done by including the ASSOCIATION O= bject in a

   PCInitiate message.

 

So when a new LSP is created by PCE, you could still indicate the associati= on. The association is not limited to existing LSPs.  

 

Hope this helps! Let me know if I understood your question correctly!

 

Regards,

Dhruv

 

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04#section-5.2= .1

 

From: xiong.quan at zte.com.cn [mailto:xiong.= quan at zte.com.cn]
Sent: 23 January 2018 13:07
To: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody at huawei.com>; draft-barth-pce-associat= ion-bidir at ietf.org
Cc: edward.crabbe at gmail.com; inaminei at google.com; msiva at cisco.com;= robert.varga at pantheon.tech; pce at ietf.org; hu.fangwei at relay.zte.co= m.cn; julien.meuric at orange.com; jonathan.hardwick at metaswitch.com
Subject: Re: [Pce] A question about RFC8281 PCE-initiated LSPs.

 

Hi Dhruv,


Thank you for the reply!O(=A1=C9_=A1=C9)O~

I agree two created PCE-initiated LSPs may be associated by ASSOCIATION obj= ect as discussed in draft-barth-pce-association-bidir.

But if there is no LSP existed, how to request a bi-directional TE LSP from= PCE in PCE initiated operation?


Quan Xiong

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Subject: Re: [Pce] A question about RFC8281 PCE-initiated LSPs.
From: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody at huawei.com>
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Hi Quan,

 

Check out -  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-ass= ociation-bidir/

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Thanks!

Dhruv

 

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Subject: [Pce] A question about RFC8281 PCE-initiated LSPs.

 

Hi all,


I encountered a problem as following shown.O(=A1=C9_=A1=C9)O~

As defined in RFC5440,the PCC-initiated LSPs creation uses the B bit in RP = object of PCReq message to indicate the direction of the TE LSP.
When set, the PCC requests a bi-directional TE LSP and when cleared, the TE= LSP is unidirectional.

And in stateful PCE, RFC8281 proposed the PCE-initiated LSPs and the PCE co= uld send a PCInitiate message to the PCC to request the creation of an LSP.
The PCInitiate message carry the Objects including SRP, LSP ,END-POINTS and= ERO. But no B bit in SRP object.

How to configure the direction of the TE LSP in PCE-initiated operation?
Best Regards,

Quan Xiong



 

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Hi,

 

I’ve had several inquiries on progressing docu= ments, here’s an update. As a result of an extremely heavy load for t= he telechats during these couple of months due to exiting ADs clearing thei= r decks and the resulting overwhelming load for the directorate reviewers, the remaining ADs have been requested to refrai= n from any Last Calls. Additionally any non-essential documents have been r= equested to be postponed to late April telechats.

 

I already had initiated Last Calls before the freeze= for:

draft-ietf-lisp-signal-free-multicast

draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection

draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-ingress-protection

I’ve scheduled these for the 3/8 telechat. Due= to the heavy load, these may or may not be reviewed. The authors should en= sure to timely answer any comments and upload a clean document if needed fo= r the telechat review by 3/2. If the document has not been updated for dir review comments, I will need to move it to a = future telechat.

 

I also have in progress Last Calls for:

draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type

draft-teas-scheduled-resources

Due to the overload, I needed to request extended La= st Calls for these with a new date of 3/28, telechat 4/5. Again, the author= s should ensure timely responses to the reviewers and upload a clean docume= nt if needed for the telechat review by 4/1.

 

The quiet period continues for this next month for r= equesting Last Calls. After the IETF meeting, we can start progressing our = documents.

 

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I = already had initiated Last Calls before the freeze for:
draft-ietf-lisp-signal-free-multicast
draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection
draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-ingress-protection
I=E2=80=99= ve scheduled these for the 3/8 telechat. Due to the heavy load, these = may or may not be reviewed. The authors should ensure to timely = answer any comments and upload a clean document if needed for the = telechat review by 3/2. If the document has not been updated for = dir review comments, I will need to move it to a future = telechat.

draft-ietf-lisp-signal-free-multicast-08 is up to date and = reflects the following comments:


Thanks,
Dino/Victor
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