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The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to
consider the following document: - 'Conveying path setup type in PCEP
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  <draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08.txt> as Proposed Standard

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Abstract


   A Path Computation Element can compute Traffic Engineering (TE) paths
   through a network that are subject to various constraints.
   Currently, TE paths are Label Switched Paths (LSPs) which are set up
   using the RSVP-TE signaling protocol.  However, other TE path setup
   methods are possible within the PCE architecture.  This document
   proposes an extension to PCEP to allow support for different path
   setup methods over a given PCEP session.




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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Applicability of Path Computation Element (PCE) for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-03.txt
	Pages           : 18
	Date            : 2018-03-01

Abstract:
   Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) refers to the set of
   virtual network operations needed to orchestrate, control and manage
   large-scale multi-domain TE networks so as to facilitate network
   programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and end-to-
   end virtual service aware connectivity and network function
   virtualization services.

   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides
   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

   This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN
   framework.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
        Authors         : Huaimo Chen
                          Yan Zhuang
                          Qin Wu
                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-02.txt
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	Date            : 2018-03-02

Abstract:
   This document proposes a set of extensions needed to the stateful
   Path Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP), so as
   to enable Labeled Switched Path (LSP) scheduling for path computation
   and LSP setup/deletion based on the actual network resource usage
   duration of a traffic service in a centralized network environment as
   stated in [I-D.ietf-teas-scheduled-resources].


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Yes/Support .




On 23 February 2018 at 00:51, Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:

> Yes/Support
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> *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:* Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwic=
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>
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> Dear PCE WG
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>
>
> This is the start of a two week poll on making
> draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes/Support .<div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On 23 February 2018 at 00:51, Aijun Wang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn" target=3D"_blank">wangaijun@tsinghua.org.c=
n</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"ZH-CN" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_3578=
507842160488699WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1f497d">Yes/Support<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> Jonathan Hardwi=
ck [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Jonathan.Hardwick@<wbr>metaswitch.com</a>] <br></span><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=
=B4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> 2018</span></span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=E5=B9=B4<span lang=3D"EN-US">2</span>=E6=9C=
=88<span lang=3D"EN-US">20</span>=E6=97=A5<span lang=3D"EN-US"> 21:34<br></=
span><b>=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.o=
rg</a><br></span><b>=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@<wbr>ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:pce-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br></sp=
an><b>=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S"> [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03<u></u><u></u><=
/span></span></p></div></div><span class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear PCE WG<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li=
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><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker=
.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatr=
acker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-<wbr>flowspec/</a><u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the dra=
ft and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D o=
r =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state=
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On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 05:15:05PM +0000, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com] 
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> Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08
> 
> 2. How are the new TLVs going to be deployed and managed? Does an operator have the option of selecting one LSP setup method or the other? How and what are the criteria of selections?
> 
> 3. There is no discussion about initial setup and configuration. Are there any initial configuration parameters? If yes, how are they set up?
> 
> 4. Are there any backwards compatibility and migration path issues operators should be aware about?
> 
> 5. What is the expected impact on network operation?
> 
> 6. How is correct operation visible to the operators? Are there any fault conditions that need to be reported to operators?
> 
> 7. Are there any existing management interfaces (e.g. YANG models) that need to be defined or extended?
> 
> Jon> I think the above points 2..7 are really good questions to be asking about each new path setup type that we introduce.  In a draft that is agnostic of path setup type, I don't really know how to answer them.  For example, I would expect draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing to answer these questions in the context of configuring and enabling PCEP for segment routing.  Do you think that there is something we can usefully say about working with multiple path setup types in general?

One thing you could do is include that list of questions in the
document as things that authors of new path setup types should think
about.

-Benjamin


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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Jonathan Hardwick <
Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan
>
> Many thanks for the review.  Please see my replies below - look for "Jon>".
>
> Best regards
> Jon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> Sent: 28 February 2018 15:23
> To: ops-dir@ietf.org
> Cc: pce@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.
> all@ietf.org; dromasca@gmail.com
> Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08
>
> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
> Review result: Has Issues
>
> I am the assigned OPS-DIR reviewer for this draft. The OPS DIrectorate
> reviews a great part of the IETF documents being processed by the IESG for
> the OPS ADs.
> Please treat with these comments as with all other IETF LC comments.
> Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting
> a new version of the draft.
>
> This document is an extension of PCEP to allow for other LSP setup methods
> than RSVP-TE to be used. For this purpose it defines two new TLVs and
> details their operation.
>
> This is an extension of an existing protocol. An RFC 5706 review applies.
>
> While the document seems to be focused to developers and implementers of
> PCEP, it is not clear what is the impact from an operational point of view
> and there are no considerations related to manageability. Maybe these are
> detailed in other documents - in this case a reference would be useful.
>
> Jon> The context of this draft is that it generalizes PCEP so that the
> protocol is not dependent solely on using RSVP-TE as a method for setting
> up paths.  The document performs this generalization, positioning RSVP-TE
> as one possible method of path setup, but it stops short of defining any
> other path setup methods.  Since no new path setup methods are being
> introduced, the manageability and operational considerations do not really
> change.  We have simply generalized a part of PCEP to allow other path
> setup methods (and their manageability considerations) to be defined
> elsewhere.
>
>
> Here are a few issues. For a complete list of questions, see Annex A in
> RFC 5706.
>
> 1. Why were these extensions needed? Do they improve efficiency? Are there
> classes of devices that do not support RSVP-TE and need the new methods?
>
> Jon> This is a pre-requisite step to allow PCEP to be used in networks
> that use segment routing to define paths.  Segment routing (SR) is a
> distinct path setup method from RSVP-TE.  It is possible that SR devices
> might not support RSVP-TE.  The WG took the decision to write one draft to
> generalize PCEP (this draft) and then to write a separate draft to explain
> how this generalization is applied to segment routing
> (draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing).  The latter draft is post-WGLC in the
> PCE WG and should be catching up with draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type
> shortly.  Why did we not combine draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type and
> draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing?  Suppose we invent a third path setup
> type in future.  It is clearer for implementers that they only need to
> implement the procedures of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type in order to
> prepare the ground for this third path setup type - having one combined
> draft incorporating SR as well would make this harder.
>
>
It would be good to describe all these in a paragraph of text, for folks in
the future, and for those who did not follow closely the discussions and
work assignments in the WG.


> 2. How are the new TLVs going to be deployed and managed? Does an operator
> have the option of selecting one LSP setup method or the other? How and
> what are the criteria of selections?
>
> 3. There is no discussion about initial setup and configuration. Are there
> any initial configuration parameters? If yes, how are they set up?
>
> 4. Are there any backwards compatibility and migration path issues
> operators should be aware about?
>
> 5. What is the expected impact on network operation?
>
> 6. How is correct operation visible to the operators? Are there any fault
> conditions that need to be reported to operators?
>
> 7. Are there any existing management interfaces (e.g. YANG models) that
> need to be defined or extended?
>
> Jon> I think the above points 2..7 are really good questions to be asking
> about each new path setup type that we introduce.  In a draft that is
> agnostic of path setup type, I don't really know how to answer them.  For
> example, I would expect draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing to answer these
> questions in the context of configuring and enabling PCEP for segment
> routing.  Do you think that there is something we can usefully say about
> working with multiple path setup types in general?
>

I am writing this review from the operational and manageability
perspective. Managing networks that combine multiple path setup methods may
raise some challenges from a configuration and observability point of view.
If there are issues that are deferred to other documents, it would be good
to mention this in a short paragraph, and provide a reference. I think that
Benjamin also suggested something on these lines.

Thanks for addressing my comments and for your answers.

Regards,

Dan

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;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jona=
than.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
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left:1ex">Hi Dan<br>
<br>
Many thanks for the review.=C2=A0 Please see my replies below - look for &q=
uot;Jon&gt;&quot;.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Jon<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
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gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: 28 February 2018 15:23<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:ops-dir@ietf.org">ops-dir@ietf.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:iet=
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Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-<wbr>08<b=
r>
<br>
Reviewer: Dan Romascanu<br>
Review result: Has Issues<br>
<br>
I am the assigned OPS-DIR reviewer for this draft. The OPS DIrectorate revi=
ews a great part of the IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the =
OPS ADs.<br>
Please treat with these comments as with all other IETF LC comments. Please=
 wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new =
version of the draft.<br>
<br>
This document is an extension of PCEP to allow for other LSP setup methods =
than RSVP-TE to be used. For this purpose it defines two new TLVs and detai=
ls their operation.<br>
<br>
This is an extension of an existing protocol. An RFC 5706 review applies.<b=
r>
<br>
While the document seems to be focused to developers and implementers of PC=
EP, it is not clear what is the impact from an operational point of view an=
d there are no considerations related to manageability. Maybe these are det=
ailed in other documents - in this case a reference would be useful.<br>
<br>
</span>Jon&gt; The context of this draft is that it generalizes PCEP so tha=
t the protocol is not dependent solely on using RSVP-TE as a method for set=
ting up paths.=C2=A0 The document performs this generalization, positioning=
 RSVP-TE as one possible method of path setup, but it stops short of defini=
ng any other path setup methods.=C2=A0 Since no new path setup methods are =
being introduced, the manageability and operational considerations do not r=
eally change.=C2=A0 We have simply generalized a part of PCEP to allow othe=
r path setup methods (and their manageability considerations) to be defined=
 elsewhere.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
Here are a few issues. For a complete list of questions, see Annex A in RFC=
 5706.<br>
<br>
1. Why were these extensions needed? Do they improve efficiency? Are there =
classes of devices that do not support RSVP-TE and need the new methods?<br=
>
<br>
</span>Jon&gt; This is a pre-requisite step to allow PCEP to be used in net=
works that use segment routing to define paths.=C2=A0 Segment routing (SR) =
is a distinct path setup method from RSVP-TE.=C2=A0 It is possible that SR =
devices might not support RSVP-TE.=C2=A0 The WG took the decision to write =
one draft to generalize PCEP (this draft) and then to write a separate draf=
t to explain how this generalization is applied to segment routing (draft-i=
etf-pce-segment-<wbr>routing).=C2=A0 The latter draft is post-WGLC in the P=
CE WG and should be catching up with draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type shortly.=
=C2=A0 Why did we not combine draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type and draft-ietf-=
pce-segment-<wbr>routing?=C2=A0 Suppose we invent a third path setup type i=
n future.=C2=A0 It is clearer for implementers that they only need to imple=
ment the procedures of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type in order to prepare th=
e ground for this third path setup type - having one combined draft incorpo=
rating SR as well would make this harder.<br>
<span class=3D""><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It would be go=
od to describe all these in a paragraph of text, for folks in the future, a=
nd for those who did not follow closely the discussions and work assignment=
s in the WG. <br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
<br>
2. How are the new TLVs going to be deployed and managed? Does an operator =
have the option of selecting one LSP setup method or the other? How and wha=
t are the criteria of selections?<br>
<br>
3. There is no discussion about initial setup and configuration. Are there =
any initial configuration parameters? If yes, how are they set up?<br>
<br>
4. Are there any backwards compatibility and migration path issues operator=
s should be aware about?<br>
<br>
5. What is the expected impact on network operation?<br>
<br>
6. How is correct operation visible to the operators? Are there any fault c=
onditions that need to be reported to operators?<br>
<br>
7. Are there any existing management interfaces (e.g. YANG models) that nee=
d to be defined or extended?<br>
<br>
</span>Jon&gt; I think the above points 2..7 are really good questions to b=
e asking about each new path setup type that we introduce.=C2=A0 In a draft=
 that is agnostic of path setup type, I don&#39;t really know how to answer=
 them.=C2=A0 For example, I would expect draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing to =
answer these questions in the context of configuring and enabling PCEP for =
segment routing.=C2=A0 Do you think that there is something we can usefully=
 say about working with multiple path setup types in general?<br></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div>I am writing this review from the operational and ma=
nageability perspective. Managing networks that combine multiple path setup=
 methods may raise some challenges from a configuration and observability p=
oint of view. If there are issues that are deferred to other documents, it =
would be good to mention this in a short paragraph, and provide a reference=
. I think that Benjamin also suggested something on these lines. <br><br></=
div><div>Thanks for addressing my comments and for your answers. <br><br></=
div><div>Regards,<br><br></div><div>Dan<br>=C2=A0 <br></div></div><br></div=
></div>

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Hi,

As I was updating the PCEP-SRv6 document [1], I noticed that the behavior
for 'the unknown ST (SID Type)' is not defined in the SR-ERO/SR-RRO. Could
the authors take this into consideration while they make an update.

Also an IANA code point sub registry needs to be setup in this document for
the ST Type, so that future extensions (like SRv6) can define new ST types.

Thanks!
Dhruv

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-negi-pce-segment-routing-ipv6/


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>    I had reviewed and given comments on the I-D in the past, which the
>    authors had addressed. I found these additional nits/suggestions.
>    Apologies for being late by a day.
>
>    Suggestions
>    -----------
>
>    Section 1
>
>    (1) Though it is true that a child PCE act as a PCC towards the
>    parent PCE, I feel it is not wise to say the opposite, that is a PCC
>    is acting as a PCE in this context. I see no advantage to bring up the
>    H-PCE in this context. I suggest we remove it.
>
>       A PCE, or a PCC operating as a PCE (in hierarchical PCE
>       environment), computes paths for MPLS Traffic Engineering LSPs
>       (MPLS-TE LSPs) based on various constraints and optimization
>       criteria.
>
>    (2) Since this document is related to MPLS data plane only, it would
>    be nice to include a pointer to the SRv6 work in PCEP for the benefit
>    of the readers.
>
>    (3) Regarding first mention of PST
>    OLD:
>       This specification relies on the procedures specified in [I-
>       D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type].
>    NEW:
>       This specification relies on the procedures specified in [I-
>       D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type] for the path setup type for SR.
>
>    Section 3
>
>    (4) Regarding this text -
>
>       SR-TE LSPs
>       computed by a PCE can be represented in one of the following forms:
>
>       o  An ordered set of IP address(es) representing network nodes/links:
>          In this case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
>          corresponding MPLS labels by consulting its Traffic Engineering
>          Database (TED).
>
>       o  An ordered set of SID(s).
>
>       o  An ordered set of both MPLS label(s) and IP address(es): In this
>          case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
>          corresponding SID(s) by consulting its TED.
>
>    Each SR-ERO object can include both SID and NAI (IP address); this
>    case is different from the case 3 above, I suggest if some text can
>    be added to make things clearer.
>
>    Section 5.1.1
>
>    (5) Why SHOULD in this text?
>
>       A PCEP speaker SHOULD indicate its support of the function described
>       in this document by sending a PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV in the
>       OPEN object with this new PST included in the PST list.
>
>    Section 6
>
>    (6) Regarding,
>
>       A PCEP speaker that does not support the SR PCEP capability cannot
>       recognize the SR-ERO or SR-RRO subobjects. As such, it MUST send a
>       PCEP error with Error-Type = 4 (Not supported object) and Error-Value
>       = 2 (Not supported object Type) as per [RFC5440].
>
>    RFC 5440 did not state the behavior for unknown sub-object. My
>    suggestion would be -
>
>       A PCEP speaker that does not support the SR PCEP capability and
>       thus cannot recognize the SR-ERO or SR-RRO subobjects, it will
>       respond according to the rules for a malformed object as per
>       [RFC5440].
>
>    Section 7
>
>    (7) Suggest to make Manageability Consideration section as per RFC
>    6123
>
>    (8) PCEP-Yang should be mentioned in section 7.2
>
>    Section 8
>
>    (9) Suggest we expand the security consideration section a bit based
>    on recent DISCUSSes.
>
>
>    Nits
>    ----
>
>    Section 5.3.1
>
>    s/MUST not/MUST NOT/
>
>    Section 5.3.3
>
>    (2)
>    OLD:
>       A PCEP speaker that does not recognize the SR-ERO subobject in PCRep,
>       PCInitiate, PCUpd or PCRpt messages MUST reject the entire PCEP
>       message and MUST send a PCErr message with Error-Type=3 ("Unknown
>       Object") and Error-Value=2 ("Unrecognized object Type") or Error-
>       Type=4 ("Not supported object") and Error-Value=2 ("Not supported
>       object Type"), defined in [RFC5440].
>    NEW:
>       A PCEP speaker that does not recognize or support the SR-ERO
>       subobject in PCRep, PCInitiate, PCUpd or PCRpt messages MUST
>       reject the entire PCEP message and MUST send a PCErr message with
>       Error-Type=3 ("Unknown Object") and Error-Value=2 ("Unrecognized
>       object Type") or Error- Type=4 ("Not supported object") and Error-
>       Value=2 ("Not supported object Type"), defined in [RFC5440].
>
>    (3) I agree with Adrian that the ".. not identical" needs to change.
>    Since you mean all subobject in ERO must be of SR-ERO type, we should
>    just call it that! (also applicable for SR-RRO).
>
>    Thanks!
>    Dhruv
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric
> > Sent: 15 January 2018 15:08
> > To: pce@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-11
> >
> > Dear PCE WG,
> >
> > Best wishes for this new year, full of interoperable specifications. Let
> > us begin by resuming our work in progress.
> >
> > This message starts a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-segment-
> > routing-11. Please send your feedback on the I-D to the PCE mailing list
> > by Monday January 29.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon & Julien
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;tr=
ebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Hi,=C2=A0</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">As <span>I<=
/span>=C2=A0was updating the PCEP-SRv6 document [1], I noticed that the beh=
avior for &#39;the <span class=3D"gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-a=
nim gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-type-3" id=3D"gmail-gwmw-152014=
19753331921043210"></span><span class=3D"gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mi=
stake-anim gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-type-3" id=3D"gmail-gwmw=
-15201419753331921043210">unk</span><span class=3D"gmail-ginger-module-high=
lighter-mistake-anim gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-type-3" id=3D"=
gmail-gwmw-15201419753331921043210">nown ST</span><span class=3D"gmail-ging=
er-module-highlighter-mistake-anim gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-=
type-3" id=3D"gmail-gwmw-15201419753331921043210"></span> (SID Type)&#39; i=
s not defined in the=C2=A0SR-ERO/SR-RRO. Could the authors take this into c=
onsideration while they make an update.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,=
52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;t=
rebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Also an IANA code point=
=C2=A0sub registry needs to be setup in this document for the ST Type, so t=
hat future extensions=C2=A0(like SRv6) can define new ST types.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Thank=
s!=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebu=
chet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Dhruv=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">[1]=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-negi-pce-segment-routi=
ng-ipv6/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-negi-pce-segment-routing-i=
pv6/</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebu=
chet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Dhr=
uv Dhody <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.dhody@huawei.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">dhruv.dhody@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I had reviewed and given comments on the I-D in the past, whic=
h the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0<span class=3D"gmail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-anim gm=
ail-ginger-module-highlighter-mistake-type-2" id=3D"gmail-gwmw-152014197716=
14311567001">authors</span> had addressed. I found these additional nits/su=
ggestions.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Apologies for being late by a day.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Suggestions<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0-----------<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 1<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(1) Though it is true that a child PCE act as a PCC towards th=
e<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0parent PCE, I feel it is not wise to say the opposite, that is=
 a PCC<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0is acting as a PCE in this context. I see no advantage to brin=
g up the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0H-PCE in this context. I suggest we remove it.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A PCE, or a PCC operating as a PCE (in hierarchical PC=
E<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 environment), computes paths for MPLS Traffic Engineer=
ing LSPs<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (MPLS-TE LSPs) based on various constraints and optimi=
zation<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 criteria.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(2) Since this document is related to MPLS data plane only, it=
 would<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be nice to include a pointer to the SRv6 work in PCEP for the =
benefit<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0of the readers.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(3) Regarding first mention of PST<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0OLD:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 This specification relies on the procedures specified =
in [I-<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type].<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0NEW:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 This specification relies on the procedures specified =
in [I-<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type] for the path setup type for=
 SR.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 3<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(4) Regarding this text -<br>
<span class=3D"gmail-"><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 SR-TE LSPs<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 computed by a PCE can be represented in one of the fol=
lowing forms:<br>
<br>
</span><span class=3D"gmail-">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 An ordered set o=
f IP address(es) representing network nodes/links:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0In this case, the PCC needs to convert th=
e IP address(es) into the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0corresponding MPLS labels by consulting i=
ts Traffic Engineering<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Database (TED).<br>
<br>
</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 An ordered set of SID(s).<br>
<span class=3D"gmail-"><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 An ordered set of both MPLS label(s) and IP ad=
dress(es): In this<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0case, the PCC needs to convert the IP add=
ress(es) into the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0corresponding SID(s) by consulting its TE=
D.<br>
<br>
</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Each SR-ERO object can include both SID and NAI (IP add=
ress); this<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0case is different from the case 3 above, I suggest if some tex=
t can<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be added to make things clearer.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 5.1.1<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(5) Why SHOULD in this text?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A PCEP speaker SHOULD indicate its support of the func=
tion described<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in this document by sending a PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILI=
TY TLV in the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OPEN object with this new PST included in the PST list=
.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 6<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(6) Regarding,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A PCEP speaker that does not support the SR PCEP capab=
ility cannot<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 recognize the SR-ERO or SR-RRO subobjects. As such, it=
 MUST send a<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PCEP error with Error-Type =3D 4 (Not supported object=
) and Error-Value<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3D 2 (Not supported object Type) as per [RFC5440].<br=
>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 5440 did not state the behavior for unknown sub-object. My=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0suggestion would be -<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A PCEP speaker that does not support the SR PCEP capab=
ility and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 thus cannot recognize the SR-ERO or SR-RRO subobjects,=
 it will<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 respond according to the rules for a malformed object =
as per<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [RFC5440].<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 7<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(7) Suggest to make Manageability Consideration section as per=
 RFC<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A06123<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(8) PCEP-Yang should be mentioned in section 7.2<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 8<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(9) Suggest we expand the security consideration section a bit=
 based<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0on recent DISCUSSes.<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Nits<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0----<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 5.3.1<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0s/MUST not/MUST NOT/<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 5.3.3<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(2)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0OLD:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A PCEP speaker that does not recognize the SR-ERO subo=
bject in PCRep,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PCInitiate, PCUpd or PCRpt messages MUST reject the en=
tire PCEP<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 message and MUST send a PCErr message with Error-Type=
=3D3 (&quot;Unknown<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Object&quot;) and Error-Value=3D2 (&quot;Unrecognized =
object Type&quot;) or Error-<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Type=3D4 (&quot;Not supported object&quot;) and Error-=
Value=3D2 (&quot;Not supported<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 object Type&quot;), defined in [RFC5440].<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0NEW:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A PCEP speaker that does not recognize or support the =
SR-ERO<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 subobject in PCRep, PCInitiate, PCUpd or PCRpt message=
s MUST<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 reject the entire PCEP message and MUST send a PCErr m=
essage with<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Error-Type=3D3 (&quot;Unknown Object&quot;) and Error-=
Value=3D2 (&quot;Unrecognized<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 object Type&quot;) or Error- Type=3D4 (&quot;Not suppo=
rted object&quot;) and Error-<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value=3D2 (&quot;Not supported object Type&quot;), def=
ined in [RFC5440].<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(3) I agree with Adrian that the &quot;.. not identical&quot; =
needs to change.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Since you mean all subobject in ERO must be of SR-ERO type, we=
 should<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0just call it that! (also applicable for SR-RRO).<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks!<br>
<span class=3D"gmail-HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Dhruv<br>
</font></span><span class=3D"gmail-im gmail-HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Pce [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">pce-bounces@=
ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric<br>
</span><span class=3D"gmail-im gmail-HOEnZb">&gt; Sent: 15 January 2018 15:=
08<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-segment-<wbr>routing-11=
<br>
&gt;<br>
</span><div class=3D"gmail-HOEnZb"><div class=3D"gmail-h5">&gt; Dear PCE WG=
,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best wishes for this new year, full of interoperable specifications. L=
et<br>
&gt; us begin by resuming our work in progress.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This message starts a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-segment-<=
br>
&gt; routing-11. Please send your feedback on the I-D to the PCE mailing li=
st<br>
&gt; by Monday January 29.<br>
&gt;<br>
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        Title           : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths
        Authors         : Udayasree Palle
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   The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an
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        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs
        Authors         : Ina Minei
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                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Yosuke Tanaka
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        Title           : Hierarchical Stateful Path Computation Element (PCE).
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
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                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
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   the current network state, including: computed Label Switched Path
   (LSPs), reserved resources within the network, and pending path
   computation requests. This information may then be considered when
   computing new traffic engineered LSPs, and for associated
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   The Hierarchical Path Computation Element (H-PCE) architecture,
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   Combining the capabilities of Stateful PCE and the Hierarchical PCE
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        Title           : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
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                          Jeff Tantsura
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Applicability of Path Computation Element (PCE) for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-04.txt
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	Date            : 2018-03-05

Abstract:
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   virtual network (VN) operations needed to orchestrate, control and
   manage large-scale multi-domain TE networks so as to facilitate
   network programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and
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   virtualization services.

   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides
   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

   This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN
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        Title           : Applicability of Path Computation Element (PCE) for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
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Abstract:
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   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

   This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Extensions to Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) for Hierarchical Path Computation Elements (PCE)
        Authors         : Fatai Zhang
                          Quintin Zhao
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
                          Ramon Casellas
                          Daniel King
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-04.txt
	Pages           : 30
	Date            : 2018-03-05

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   This document defines the Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP)
   extensions for the purpose of implementing necessary Hierarchical PCE
   procedures and protocol extensions.


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This poll has ended, with the result that this document will be adopted by =
the PCE working group.

Authors, once the I-D submission tool has reopened, please resubmit the doc=
ument as draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-00.

Best regards
Jon and Julien


From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34
To: pce@ietf.org
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Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

Dear PCE WG

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-0=
3 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This poll has ended, with the result that this docum=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></p>
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:EN-GB"> Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 February 2018 13:34<br>
<b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03<o:p></o:=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear PCE WG<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li=
-pce-pcep-flowspec/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flo=
wspec/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please review the draft and send an email to the lis=
t indicating &#8220;yes/support&#8221; or &#8220;no/do not support&#8221;.&=
nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp; If yes, please als=
o feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the
 document is a WG document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></p>
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Ack.

Thanks.

A

From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 06 March 2018 11:32
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: RE: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

This poll has ended, with the result that this document will be adopted by =
the PCE working group.

Authors, once the I-D submission tool has reopened, please resubmit the doc=
ument as draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-00.

Best regards
Jon and Julien


From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 20 February 2018 13:34
To: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org>; draft-li-pce-pcep-flow=
spec@ietf.org<mailto:draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org>
Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03

Dear PCE WG

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-0=
3 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec/<https://urldef=
ense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dl=
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IgX4&e=3D>

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Tuesday, March 6.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien


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</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">A<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hard=
wick@metaswitch.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 March 2018 11:32<br>
<b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org; draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This poll has ended, with the r=
esult that this document will be adopted by the PCE working group.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Authors, once the I-D submissio=
n tool has reopened, please resubmit the document as draft-ietf-pce-pcep-fl=
owspec-00.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Jonathan Hardwick [<a=
 href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com">mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@=
metaswitch.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 February 2018 13:34<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org">
draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear PCE WG<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
 poll on making draft-li-pce-pcep-flowspec-03 a PCE working group document.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://urldefense.p=
roofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dli-2Dpc=
e-2Dpcep-2Dflowspec_&amp;d=3DDwMFAg&amp;c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb=
3voDTXcWzoCI&amp;r=3DuMf2AvUxVCBheNFdVy1Y_8kG3CPWoDoPEbxx8m859_Q&amp;m=3DZS=
p00CBvIsz_0TIGiMHioOGriyrealKq2evjNZME-tc&amp;s=3DHbiq_9s6oZ04TMxVVB7ktTFbr=
jp-FaEekY4B9D0IgX4&amp;e=3D">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-=
pcep-flowspec/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and sen=
d an email to the list indicating &#8220;yes/support&#8221; or &#8220;no/do=
 not support&#8221;.&nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs=
p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see
 addressed once the document is a WG document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Tuesday, March=
 6.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 8356

        Title:      Experimental Codepoint Allocation for the 
                    Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) 
        Author:     D. Dhody, 
                    D. King,
                    A. Farrel
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       March 2018
        Mailbox:    dhruv.ietf@gmail.com, 
                    d.king@lancaster.ac.uk, 
                    afarrel@juniper.net
        Pages:      7
        Characters: 14283
        Updates:    RFC 5440

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-05.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8356

        DOI:        10.17487/RFC8356

IANA assigns values to the Path Computation Element Communication
Protocol (PCEP) parameters (messages, objects, TLVs).  IANA
established a top-level registry to contain all PCEP codepoints and
sub-registries.  This top-level registry contains sub-registries for
PCEP message, object, and TLV types.  The allocation policy for each
of these sub-registries is IETF Review.

This document updates RFC 5440 by changing the allocation policies
for these three registries to mark some of the codepoints as assigned
for Experimental Use.


This document is a product of the Path Computation Element Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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Hi WG,

You might have noticed that the WG agenda is up at - https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-pce
We are meeting on Tuesday afternoon after Lunch!

Presenters,

We have a tight agenda, please note the allocated time for your presentatio=
n and please prepare presentation material accordingly and set some time as=
ide for Q&A.
Please send the slides to your chairs/secretary by Sunday 1900 Local London=
 time.

Thanks!
Dhruv

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p at -
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e">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-pce</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
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Hi Jon,

This looks very good and addresses my concerns. Thanks for the dialog and
for the responsiveness.

Regards,

Dan


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Jonathan Hardwick <
Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan
>
>
>
> I have written the following text to address the general question of
> manageability of different LSP Setup types and plan to include it in the
> next revision of this draft.  Please let me know if you have any comments=
.
>
>
>
> NEW (insert before =E2=80=9CSecurity Considerations=E2=80=9D section)
>
>
>
> 6. Manageability Considerations
>
>
>
> This document generalises PCEP to allow path setup methods other than
> RSVP-TE to be used by the network.  It is possible that, in a given
> network, multiple path setup methods will be used.  It is also possible
> that not all devices will support the same set of path setup methods.
> Managing networks that combine multiple path setup methods may therefore
> raise some challenges from a configuration and observability point of vie=
w.
>
>
>
> Each document that introduces a new path setup type to PCEP must include =
a
> manageability section.  The manageability section must explain how
> operators can manage PCEP with the new path setup type.  It must address
> the following questions, which are generally applicable when working with
> multiple path setup types in PCEP.
>
>    - What are the criteria for when devices will use the new path setup
>    type in PCEP, and how can the operator control this?
>    - How can the network be migrated to the new path setup type, and are
>    there any backwards compatibility issues that operators need to be awa=
re of?
>    - Are paths set up using the new path setup type intended to coexist
>    with other paths over the long term and, if so, how is this situation
>    managed with PCEP?
>    - How can operators verify the correct operation of PCEP in the
>    network with respect to the new path setup type?  Which fault conditio=
ns
>    must be reported to the operators?
>    - Are there any existing management interfaces (such as YANG models)
>    that must be extended to model the operation of PCEP in the network wi=
th
>    respect to the new path setup type?
>
>
>
> See [RFC 6123] for further guidance on how to write manageability section=
s
> in PCEP standards-track documents.
>
>
>
> END NEW
>
>
>
> + [RFC 6123] is added as an informative reference.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 03 March 2018 10:57
> *To:* Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>
> *Cc:* ops-dir@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org;
> draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.all@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-0=
8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Jonathan Hardwick <
> Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan
>
> Many thanks for the review.  Please see my replies below - look for "Jon>=
".
>
> Best regards
> Jon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> Sent: 28 February 2018 15:23
> To: ops-dir@ietf.org
> Cc: pce@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.
> all@ietf.org; dromasca@gmail.com
> Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08
>
> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
> Review result: Has Issues
>
> I am the assigned OPS-DIR reviewer for this draft. The OPS DIrectorate
> reviews a great part of the IETF documents being processed by the IESG fo=
r
> the OPS ADs.
> Please treat with these comments as with all other IETF LC comments.
> Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before postin=
g
> a new version of the draft.
>
> This document is an extension of PCEP to allow for other LSP setup method=
s
> than RSVP-TE to be used. For this purpose it defines two new TLVs and
> details their operation.
>
> This is an extension of an existing protocol. An RFC 5706 review applies.
>
> While the document seems to be focused to developers and implementers of
> PCEP, it is not clear what is the impact from an operational point of vie=
w
> and there are no considerations related to manageability. Maybe these are
> detailed in other documents - in this case a reference would be useful.
>
> Jon> The context of this draft is that it generalizes PCEP so that the
> protocol is not dependent solely on using RSVP-TE as a method for setting
> up paths.  The document performs this generalization, positioning RSVP-TE
> as one possible method of path setup, but it stops short of defining any
> other path setup methods.  Since no new path setup methods are being
> introduced, the manageability and operational considerations do not reall=
y
> change.  We have simply generalized a part of PCEP to allow other path
> setup methods (and their manageability considerations) to be defined
> elsewhere.
>
>
> Here are a few issues. For a complete list of questions, see Annex A in
> RFC 5706.
>
> 1. Why were these extensions needed? Do they improve efficiency? Are ther=
e
> classes of devices that do not support RSVP-TE and need the new methods?
>
> Jon> This is a pre-requisite step to allow PCEP to be used in networks
> that use segment routing to define paths.  Segment routing (SR) is a
> distinct path setup method from RSVP-TE.  It is possible that SR devices
> might not support RSVP-TE.  The WG took the decision to write one draft t=
o
> generalize PCEP (this draft) and then to write a separate draft to explai=
n
> how this generalization is applied to segment routing
> (draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing).  The latter draft is post-WGLC in the
> PCE WG and should be catching up with draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type
> shortly.  Why did we not combine draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type and
> draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing?  Suppose we invent a third path setup
> type in future.  It is clearer for implementers that they only need to
> implement the procedures of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type in order to
> prepare the ground for this third path setup type - having one combined
> draft incorporating SR as well would make this harder.
>
>
>
> It would be good to describe all these in a paragraph of text, for folks
> in the future, and for those who did not follow closely the discussions a=
nd
> work assignments in the WG.
>
>
> 2. How are the new TLVs going to be deployed and managed? Does an operato=
r
> have the option of selecting one LSP setup method or the other? How and
> what are the criteria of selections?
>
> 3. There is no discussion about initial setup and configuration. Are ther=
e
> any initial configuration parameters? If yes, how are they set up?
>
> 4. Are there any backwards compatibility and migration path issues
> operators should be aware about?
>
> 5. What is the expected impact on network operation?
>
> 6. How is correct operation visible to the operators? Are there any fault
> conditions that need to be reported to operators?
>
> 7. Are there any existing management interfaces (e.g. YANG models) that
> need to be defined or extended?
>
> Jon> I think the above points 2..7 are really good questions to be asking
> about each new path setup type that we introduce.  In a draft that is
> agnostic of path setup type, I don't really know how to answer them.  For
> example, I would expect draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing to answer these
> questions in the context of configuring and enabling PCEP for segment
> routing.  Do you think that there is something we can usefully say about
> working with multiple path setup types in general?
>
>
>
> I am writing this review from the operational and manageability
> perspective. Managing networks that combine multiple path setup methods m=
ay
> raise some challenges from a configuration and observability point of vie=
w.
> If there are issues that are deferred to other documents, it would be goo=
d
> to mention this in a short paragraph, and provide a reference. I think th=
at
> Benjamin also suggested something on these lines.
>
> Thanks for addressing my comments and for your answers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Jon,<br><br></div>This looks very good a=
nd addresses my concerns. Thanks for the dialog and for the responsiveness.=
 <br><br></div>Regards,<br><br></div>Dan<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Jonat=
han Hardwick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@meta=
switch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB">
<div class=3D"m_1177742078088074227WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Hi Dan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I have written the following text to address the ge=
neral question of manageability of different LSP Setup types and plan to in=
clude it in the next
 revision of this draft.=C2=A0 Please let me know if you have any comments.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">NEW (insert before =E2=80=9CSecurity Considerations=
=E2=80=9D section)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">6. Manageability Considerations<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">This document generalises PCEP to allow path setup =
methods other than RSVP-TE to be used by the network.=C2=A0 It is possible =
that, in a given network,
 multiple path setup methods will be used.=C2=A0 It is also possible that n=
ot all devices will support the same set of path setup methods.=C2=A0 Manag=
ing networks that combine multiple path setup methods may therefore raise s=
ome challenges from a configuration and observability
 point of view.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Each document that introduces a new path setup type=
 to PCEP must include a manageability section.=C2=A0 The manageability sect=
ion must explain how operators
 can manage PCEP with the new path setup type.=C2=A0 It must address the fo=
llowing questions, which are generally applicable when working with multipl=
e path setup types in PCEP.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">What are the criteria fo=
r when devices will use the new path setup type in PCEP, and how can the
 operator control this?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif">How can the network be migrated to the new path se=
tup type, and are there any backwards compatibility
 issues that operators need to be aware of?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Are paths set up using the new=
 path setup type intended to coexist with other paths over the long
 term and, if so, how is this situation managed with PCEP?<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">How can operato=
rs verify the correct operation of PCEP in the network with respect to the =
new path
 setup type?=C2=A0 Which fault conditions must be reported to the operators=
?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0cm=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-seri=
f">Are there any existing management interfaces (such as YANG models) that =
must be extended to model
 the operation of PCEP in the network with respect to the new path setup ty=
pe?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">See [RFC 6123] for further guidance on how to write=
 manageability sections in PCEP standards-track documents.<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">END NEW<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">+ [RFC 6123] is added as an informative reference.<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Many thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Jon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-US"> =
Dan Romascanu [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">dromasca@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2018 10:57<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Hardwick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metasw=
itch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.<wbr>com</a>&gt;<b=
r>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ops-dir@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ops-dir@ie=
tf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org<=
/a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ietf@ietf.org</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.all@ietf.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.<wbr>all@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-typ=
e-<wbr>08<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Jonathan Hardwick &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jon=
athan.Hardwick@metaswitch.<wbr>com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Dan<br>
<br>
Many thanks for the review.=C2=A0 Please see my replies below - look for &q=
uot;Jon&gt;&quot;.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Jon<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Dan Romascanu [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: 28 February 2018 15:23<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:ops-dir@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ops-dir@ietf.org<=
/a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
ietf@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.all@ietf=
.org" target=3D"_blank">draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.<wbr>all@ietf.org</a>=
;
<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com<=
/a><br>
Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-<wbr>08<b=
r>
<br>
Reviewer: Dan Romascanu<br>
Review result: Has Issues<br>
<br>
I am the assigned OPS-DIR reviewer for this draft. The OPS DIrectorate revi=
ews a great part of the IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the =
OPS ADs.<br>
Please treat with these comments as with all other IETF LC comments. Please=
 wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new =
version of the draft.<br>
<br>
This document is an extension of PCEP to allow for other LSP setup methods =
than RSVP-TE to be used. For this purpose it defines two new TLVs and detai=
ls their operation.<br>
<br>
This is an extension of an existing protocol. An RFC 5706 review applies.<b=
r>
<br>
While the document seems to be focused to developers and implementers of PC=
EP, it is not clear what is the impact from an operational point of view an=
d there are no considerations related to manageability. Maybe these are det=
ailed in other documents - in this
 case a reference would be useful.<br>
<br>
Jon&gt; The context of this draft is that it generalizes PCEP so that the p=
rotocol is not dependent solely on using RSVP-TE as a method for setting up=
 paths.=C2=A0 The document performs this generalization, positioning RSVP-T=
E as one possible method of path setup,
 but it stops short of defining any other path setup methods.=C2=A0 Since n=
o new path setup methods are being introduced, the manageability and operat=
ional considerations do not really change.=C2=A0 We have simply generalized=
 a part of PCEP to allow other path setup
 methods (and their manageability considerations) to be defined elsewhere.<=
br>
<br>
<br>
Here are a few issues. For a complete list of questions, see Annex A in RFC=
 5706.<br>
<br>
1. Why were these extensions needed? Do they improve efficiency? Are there =
classes of devices that do not support RSVP-TE and need the new methods?<br=
>
<br>
Jon&gt; This is a pre-requisite step to allow PCEP to be used in networks t=
hat use segment routing to define paths.=C2=A0 Segment routing (SR) is a di=
stinct path setup method from RSVP-TE.=C2=A0 It is possible that SR devices=
 might not support RSVP-TE.=C2=A0 The WG took the
 decision to write one draft to generalize PCEP (this draft) and then to wr=
ite a separate draft to explain how this generalization is applied to segme=
nt routing (draft-ietf-pce-segment-<wbr>routing).=C2=A0 The latter draft is=
 post-WGLC in the PCE WG and should be catching
 up with draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type shortly.=C2=A0 Why did we not combin=
e draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type and draft-ietf-pce-segment-<wbr>routing?=C2=
=A0 Suppose we invent a third path setup type in future.=C2=A0 It is cleare=
r for implementers that they only need to implement
 the procedures of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type in order to prepare the gr=
ound for this third path setup type - having one combined draft incorporati=
ng SR as well would make this harder.<u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">It would be good to d=
escribe all these in a paragraph of text, for folks in the future, and for =
those who did not follow closely the discussions and work assignments in th=
e WG.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
2. How are the new TLVs going to be deployed and managed? Does an operator =
have the option of selecting one LSP setup method or the other? How and wha=
t are the criteria of selections?<br>
<br>
3. There is no discussion about initial setup and configuration. Are there =
any initial configuration parameters? If yes, how are they set up?<br>
<br>
4. Are there any backwards compatibility and migration path issues operator=
s should be aware about?<br>
<br>
5. What is the expected impact on network operation?<br>
<br>
6. How is correct operation visible to the operators? Are there any fault c=
onditions that need to be reported to operators?<br>
<br>
7. Are there any existing management interfaces (e.g. YANG models) that nee=
d to be defined or extended?<br>
<br>
Jon&gt; I think the above points 2..7 are really good questions to be askin=
g about each new path setup type that we introduce.=C2=A0 In a draft that i=
s agnostic of path setup type, I don&#39;t really know how to answer them.=
=C2=A0 For example, I would expect draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing
 to answer these questions in the context of configuring and enabling PCEP =
for segment routing.=C2=A0 Do you think that there is something we can usef=
ully say about working with multiple path setup types in general?<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am writing this rev=
iew from the operational and manageability perspective. Managing networks t=
hat combine multiple path setup methods may raise some challenges from a co=
nfiguration and observability point
 of view. If there are issues that are deferred to other documents, it woul=
d be good to mention this in a short paragraph, and provide a reference. I =
think that Benjamin also suggested something on these lines.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks for addressing=
 my comments and for your answers.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Regards,<u></u><u></u=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dan<br>
=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div></div></div>
</div>

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extension for Flow Specification
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Adrian Farrel
                          Zhenbin Li
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-00.txt
	Pages           : 25
	Date            : 2018-03-18

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable
   of selecting the paths through a traffic engineered network.  These
   paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may
   be unsolicited directions issued by the PCE to network elements.
   Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey
   the details of the computed path.

   Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow
   Specifications".  RFC 5575 defines the Flow Specification and
   describes how it may be distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic
   flows to be associated with routes.

   This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support
   dissemination of Flow Specifications.  This allows a PCE to indicate
   what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Very bad of me to be so late responding. I have put aside all minor wrinkles
because of that.

But...

> > 5.1
> >
> >    R (Removal - 1 bit):  when set, the requesting PCE peer requires the
> >       removal of an LSP from the association group.  This flag is used
> >       for ASSOCIATION object in PCRpt and PCUpd message, the flag is
> >       ignored in other PCEP messages.
> >
> > What does R==0 signify?
> >
> [[Dhruv Dhody]] Not removal! :)
> Do you see a need for some text here? (This would be similar to R flag in LSP
> object for PCRpt?)

Possible meanings are...

"PCE peer requires retention"
"PCE peer does not require removal"
"PCE peer requests removal"
"PCE peer requests retention"

You should say!

> > 5.3
> >
> > Presumably if the R bit is set and the LSP was not in the association, we
> > act as though it had been and we had removed it?
> >
> [[Dhruv Dhody]] We have this text in the draft -
> 
>    If a PCEP speaker receives ASSOCIATION object with R bit set for
>    removal, and the association group (identified by association
>    parameters) is not known, it MUST return a PCErr message with Error-
>    Type 26 (Early allocation by IANA) "Association Error" and Error-
>    Value 4 "Association unknown".
> 
> Since this LSP is not in the association, we considered this as an association
not
> known in the context of the LSP and re-used the error. If this is not clear we
could
> define a new error-value instead?

It works, but seems suboptimal. 
The intent is "make the group no longer contain the LSP".
The sender now has to handle two "success" results:
1. working as normal
2. this error case

Thanks for the work,
Adrian


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Dear PCE WG

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-st=
ateful-path-protection-05 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-pr=
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Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
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The poll ends on Tuesday, April 10.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please review the draft and send an email to the lis=
t indicating &#8220;yes/support&#8221; or &#8220;no/do not support&#8221;.&=
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o feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The poll ends on Tuesday, April 10.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes/support!

Dhruv (as a co-author)

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Hardwick <
Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

> Dear PCE WG
>
>
>
> This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-=
stateful-path-protection-05
> a PCE working group document.
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:trebuche=
t ms,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Yes/support!=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;color:#0c343d"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-ser=
if;color:#0c343d">Dhruv (as a co-author)</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Jonath=
an Hardwick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metas=
witch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear PCE WG<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft=
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ocument.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-an=
anthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection/" target=3D"_blank">https://data=
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 document is a WG document.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The poll ends on Tuesday, April 10.<u></u><u></u></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon and Julien<u></u><u></u></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Conveying path setup type in PCEP messages
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Ina Minei
                          Robert Varga
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2018-03-27

Abstract:
   A Path Computation Element (PCE) can compute Traffic Engineering (TE)
   paths through a network that are subject to various constraints.
   Currently, TE paths are Label Switched Paths (LSPs) which are set up
   using the RSVP-TE signaling protocol.  However, other TE path setup
   methods are possible within the PCE architecture.  This document
   proposes an extension to the PCE communication protocol (PCEP) to
   allow support for different path setup methods over a given PCEP
   session.


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Hi all,

As mentioned during our session in London, we have received a request
from the authors of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp for an early code
point allocation.

RFC 7120 requires to meet the following criteria to proceed:

   b.  The format, semantics, processing, and other rules related to
       handling the protocol entities defined by the code points
       (henceforth called "specifications") must be adequately described
       in an Internet-Draft.
   c.  The specifications of these code points must be stable; i.e., if
       there is a change, implementations based on the earlier and later
       specifications must be seamlessly interoperable.

If anyone believes that the draft does not meet these criteria, or
believes that early allocation is not appropriate for any other reason,
please send an email to the PCE mailing list explaining the reasons.  If
the chairs hear no objections by next Tuesday, April 3, we will kick off
the early allocation request.

Best regards,

Jon & Julien


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> Dear PCE WG
>
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> This is the start of a two week poll on making
> draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection-05 a PCE working group
> document.
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Support


From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 13:10
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection@ietf.o=
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Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path=
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Dear PCE WG

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-st=
ateful-path-protection-05 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-pr=
otection/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Tuesday, April 10.

Many thanks,

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Dear All,
yes/support with comments:

   - since the draft does not discuss actual control of the protection
   switchover but introduces objects related to Path Protection Association
   Group I encourage authors to consider reflecting that in the title of th=
e
   document;
   - Path Protection Association Group, as I understand, defined as 1:N,
   i.e. one working and N protection paths, while M:N is more general case =
or
   protection. I encourage authors to consider ways to support M:N PPAG;
   - above I've made assumption that the protection mode supported by PPAG
   is 1:N (1:1 is just special case). But PPAG may be used to signal
   association for 1+1 protection scheme. If that is the case, can 1+1 be
   expressed using proposed S and P flags or additional flag is required?

Regards,
Greg

>
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> *Subject:* [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-
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>
>
> Dear PCE WG
>
>
>
> This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-=
stateful-path-protection-05
> a PCE working group document.
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-
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> Jon and Julien
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dear All,<div>yes/support with comments:</div><div><ul><li=
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er but introduces objects related to Path Protection Association Group I en=
courage authors to consider reflecting that in the title of the document;</=
li><li>Path Protection Association Group, as I understand, defined as 1:N, =
i.e. one working and N protection paths, while M:N is more general case or =
protection. I encourage authors to consider ways to support M:N PPAG;<br></=
li><li>above I&#39;ve made assumption that the protection mode supported by=
 PPAG is 1:N (1:1 is just special case). But PPAG may be used to signal ass=
ociation for 1+1 protection scheme. If that is the case, can 1+1 be express=
ed using proposed S and P flags or additional flag is required?</li></ul><d=
iv>Regards,</div></div><div>Greg</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 27, 2018 13:10<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</=
a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection@ie=
tf.org" target=3D"_blank">draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-<wbr>stateful-path-prot=
ection@ietf.<wbr>org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce-cha=
irs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-<wbr>s=
tateful-path-protection-05<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear PCE WG<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
 poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-<wbr>stateful-path-protection-05 =
a PCE working group document.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection/" target=3D=
"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-<w=
br>stateful-path-protection/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and sen=
d an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=
=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state your re=
asons.=C2=A0 If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you&#39;d li=
ke to see
 addressed once the document is a WG document.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Tuesday, April=
 10.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks,<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon and Julien<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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Reviewer: Roni Even
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Document: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-??
Reviewer: Roni Even
Review Date: 2018-03-31
IETF LC End Date: 2018-03-28
IESG Telechat date: 2018-04-05

Summary:
The document is ready for publication as a standard track RFC.

Major issues:

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