From nobody Sun Apr 1 21:48:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2977712711B; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:48:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H76A8AjPN4rL; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCD0812711A; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id E1C6CF1B83A9A; 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Yes/Support..

 

Regards,

Mahendra

 

 

From: Pce [mai= lto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lizhenbin
Sent: 29 March 2018 08:36
To: Jonathan Hardwick; pce@ietf.org; draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-state= ful-path-protection@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] =B4=F0=B8=B4: WG adoption pol= l for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection-05

 

Yes/s= upport.

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From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 13:10
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-statef= ul-path-protection-05

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection-05 a PCE= working group document.

https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection/=

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do no= t support=A1=B1.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  I= f yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April= 10.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

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--_000_B495DF531F7B5943B1816E2031125EF8A8475E64DGGEMI512MBXchi_-- From nobody Mon Apr 2 11:19:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A4112D7FC; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alvaro Retana To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152269313879.30902.16822564868243743205.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:18:58 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 18:18:59 -0000 Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) The Length field in S3 has no units. I'm sure people can guess it is in bytes, from the rest of the description, but it should be explicit. (2) The Reserved fields "MUST be set to zero". What happens if they're not? Typically they are also ignored by the receiver... (3) S3: "Each sub-TLV MUST obey the rules for TLV formatting defined in ([RFC5440]). That is, each sub-TLV MUST be padded to a four byte alignment, and the length field of each sub-TLV MUST NOT include the padding bytes." The first sentence is ok. The second one tries to paraphrase what rfc5440 says -- but rfc5440 doesn't say that, it doesn't even use Normative language! This is the text from rfc5440: The Length field defines the length of the value portion in bytes. The TLV is padded to 4-bytes alignment; padding is not included in the Length field (so a 3-byte value would have a length of 3, but the total size of the TLV would be 8 bytes). (3a) The text in this document shouldn't use Normative language to describe what rfc5440 says and specifies. (3b) Note that the text from rfc5440 (specifically the part about "padding is not included in the Length field") is not aligned with the description of the Length field in this document: "The TLV Length field MUST be equal to the size of the appended sub-TLVs plus the size of the PST list (rounded up to the nearest multiple of four) plus four bytes." Rounding up includes the padding. (4) S6: "Each document that introduces a new path setup type to PCEP must include a manageability section." Why is a Normative "MUST" not used? (5) rfc6123 is a Historic document. Maybe a reference to rfc5706 is more appropriate (even in addition to rfc6123). From nobody Mon Apr 2 11:19:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC8312D873; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Kaduk To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152269317516.31168.17381669103452880910.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:19:35 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 18:19:35 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm concerned about defining the space for optional sub-TLVs in PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY but not giving much description of how future sub-TLVs would work (since none are currently defined). Is there expected to be a one-to-one mapping from PST to sub-TLV, or one-to-many, or something else? If a given sub-TLV can be associated with more than one PST, some rules would need to be specified for how that mapping works, what dependency there is on the order in which sub-TLVs appear in the message, etc. I am not balloting DISCUSS because I suspect the intent is for each sub-TLV to correspond to exactly one PST, in which case the behavior is pretty easy. But I would like to see more description of how this is expected to work. Both new TLVs have 'Reserved' fields that MUST be set to zero. Should they be ignored on receipt (to allow for potential future use as an extension) or can the receiver validate that they are zero? The Security Considerations defer to RFCs 5440 and 8281, which (as the secdir review notes) is mostly okay. RFC 5440 does have a long discussion of the value of TCP authentication, but IIUC it does not mandate that TCP authentication be used. That would leave open the possibility that an attacker (e.g., TCP MITM) could generate error messages when a particular PST is used, potentially forcing the use of a different PST, and this attacker capability seems to be new in this document. As such, it would merit a mention in the Security Considerations. (This attack only becomes relevant in the face of some additional weakness or flaw in a PST that makes forcing its use advantageous to the attacker for other reasons.) From nobody Mon Apr 2 19:22:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE7E12DA42; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 19:22:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Spencer Dawkins To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152272215377.13963.14745053686383999008.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:22:33 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 02:22:34 -0000 Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll let you folks work with Benjamin on this, but I echo his concern about the level of specification covering sub-TLVs (Spencer's summary: "not much specification"). As a related comment, I note that not defining any sub-TLVs in this document prevents the authors from giving any examples of what sub-TLVs might be appropriate, which would have been helpful for me in both the Abstract and Introduction. (I usually prefer clues about whether the reader should be reading a specification or not. It would be easier for me to know whether this document is relevant to me, if I knew what kinds of sub-TLVs were envisioned, even if only a couple of examples were provided. But do the right thing, of course) From nobody Tue Apr 3 02:54:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6225120726; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 02:54:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Martin Vigoureux To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152274925080.14008.7967684748788567120.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 02:54:10 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Martin Vigoureux's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:54:11 -0000 Martin Vigoureux has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Document says: If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV, it MUST ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440]). and: If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV, it MUST ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440]). I am fine with this but it does not say anything, explicitly, on what shall be the selected signalling protocol. I guess it will be RSVP-TE because I guess we treat this situation in the same way as if there had been no TLV. But since I am guessing, I feel it wouldn't hurt to be explicit. On the assumption that my guesses are correct, what about adding, for example, the following sentence (or anything else you'd judge more appropriate): From a signalling protocol selection point of view, this situation is treated as if the ... TLV was absent. From nobody Tue Apr 3 08:06:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1172120724; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152276797371.22791.3491789549895087050.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 08:06:13 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-ie?= =?utf-8?q?tf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:06:14 -0000 Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mostly editorial (and I guess already flagged by Alvaro and Martin): This sentence (in sec 3 as well as the similar sentence in sec 4) should not use normative language because that basically non-sensical: "If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV, it MUST ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440])." Should be instead: "If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV, it will ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440])." From nobody Tue Apr 3 11:49:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D67A126DCA; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:49:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cooperw.in header.b=fuC+P00e; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=Yox2epKc Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HYRlRFvUg3M2; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 677C4126E64; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBCD218F2; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:49:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=ismVa0Pa5lmIWV4WhDpEJji1iELRx N1TVKR3W56nchM=; b=fuC+P00eB8v19yoR9n0oHUK7dVWFJYah/uiEmPOKdkVLO DS78xwA5ZApUlsfUuHHdzlLyKQZ9nQ7lgVjr1beE/xMJsIoZYc8CHstgdJMGCiMX Mu9GtAa43IXcCkLWe0aFWSOP/2BE5zsTtVWSwt+RLs0bFRZM86LqN/VR/E0x9t7Y Nw2ahpzhBCt2ck5iHDNoOURghHL0fsuIOEnCVIzX9Rye0ECezm7ik3Q4h3HtFbj7 9D0H/pFTlo1L5sjQQ7npeO0bMdZzMiGNyPSDOksIKWm5gxYTZjL+xZ6C4jm/6Jlz GyGrFhL6WIgsD5QhKphcg0kLcfNUkVXakA8yvQpUw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=ismVa0 Pa5lmIWV4WhDpEJji1iELRxN1TVKR3W56nchM=; b=Yox2epKc4VwNyAeygaBMET oiLJD2RFa3JfgydlY8eRy5c8cV4wcmN2liBCTA/Yt8SoZDBEquhai8CCJn7zq8hY f/i5dwUbsNMOi+TpzyuU2/QUL9IW8eLwW0CELHl5JW+0R93h0oUFaPmIJIVHiaYd GadLDwNTtBb9KiOVGlc0QEfJDpeo7InxO8b/3dF/vaaMHKLgSAvpf/ZnMvtlo1Gd fBYXW677TFauKREd3kaAAMtF4sfEIGsO5qdkf0lk7tqjYn1a0l4F1UafMXBWAC5Q jYETUzHm3QofBB2hOxkH+/Jw0MQucXr+jQZ/8tiJYE4MEsB/kgd0jTnbfLU/wBhw == X-ME-Sender: Received: from rtp-alcoop-nitro3.cisco.com (unknown [173.38.117.78]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 352B4E444F; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:49:07 -0400 Cc: Roni Even , "gen-art@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.all@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <151965692093.31478.13701823396454241011@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Jonathan Hardwick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:49:11 -0000 Roni, thanks for your reviews. Jonathan, thanks for your response. I = have entered a No Objection ballot. Alissa > On Mar 2, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Hardwick = wrote: >=20 > Hi Roni >=20 > Many thanks for the review. You are right, in this case we meant = "IETF Review". I will update the document. >=20 > Cheers > Jon >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Roni Even [mailto:ron.even.tlv@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: 26 February 2018 14:55 > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: pce@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; = draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type.all@ietf.org > Subject: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-08 >=20 > Reviewer: Roni Even > Review result: Almost Ready >=20 > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area = Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the = IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any = other last call comments. >=20 > For more information, please see the FAQ at >=20 > . >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-?? > Reviewer: Roni Even > Review Date: 2018-02-26 > IETF LC End Date: 2018-03-06 > IESG Telechat date: 2018-04-05 >=20 > Summary: > The document is almost ready for publication as standard track RFC = Major issues: >=20 > Minor issues: > 1. in section 7.2 "The allocation policy for this new registry should = be by IETF Consensus" why not use one of RFC8126 well known policies? >=20 > Nits/editorial comments: >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gen-art mailing list > Gen-art@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art From nobody Tue Apr 3 12:59:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2A5127AD4; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ben Campbell To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152278559049.22767.11110546429407373591.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:59:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:59:50 -0000 Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Substantive Comments: §1.1: There are at least a few instances of lower case versions of 2119 keywords. Please consider using the boilerplate from RFC 8174. §7: Doesn't this need to say something about the possible security considerations when adding new path setup types ? Editorial Comments and Nits: §5: "... it MUST consider that the peer suports only ...: I think perhaps "consider" should have been "assume"? Also, s/suports/supports. From nobody Wed Apr 4 00:16:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EAD12708C; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 00:15:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ignas Bagdonas To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152282615747.23940.14066317261675347010.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 00:15:57 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:15:57 -0000 Ignas Bagdonas has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a major comment, I am not balloting DISCUSS at this time as author's intentions may have been to do the right thing, and it has simply slipped or not yet done. Manageability section lists the right questions, but there are no answers to those questions. Could authors please answer the questions in section 9? Would capabilities be augmenting the PCEP YANG model, under entity or peer branches? It does not seem that there is a need for a separate model just for this extension? From nobody Wed Apr 4 08:42:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56B12DA3E; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 08:42:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Rescorla To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152285655743.24055.9663599387132128579.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:42:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:42:37 -0000 Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please expand RP and SRP on first use. What is the backward compatibility story here? I.e., say I only support method X and the peer doesn't know about this TLV at all? How will it behave? From nobody Wed Apr 4 09:14:24 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3AA120724; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 09:14:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.545 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.545 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id duSIeCtFWF4u; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 09:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail2.rd.orange.com (r-mail2.rd.orange.com [217.108.152.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74AA1201F8; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 09:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail2.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 97DF65D8708; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 18:14:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.194.32.11]) by r-mail2.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B055D85F1; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 18:14:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.193.71.63] (10.193.71.63) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 18:14:15 +0200 To: Eric Rescorla , The IESG CC: , , References: <152285655743.24055.9663599387132128579.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Message-ID: <1efc3eff-e45c-d9cd-72e1-7b68a469a8bb@orange.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 18:14:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <152285655743.24055.9663599387132128579.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:14:23 -0000 Hi Eric, As a shepherd, I can address your 2nd concern without waiting for the authors. For both defined TLVs, the backward compatibility is addressed by the last sentence of sections 3 and 4: " If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-xxx TLV, it MUST ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440])." The exact wording will be updated to address other comments, e.g.: - MUST -> will, - Make it explicit that an ignored TLV is similar to an absent TLV, and implies the only existing method before this I-D, i.e. X == RSVP-TE signaling (cf. Martin's comment). Thanks, Julien Apr. 04, 2018 - ekr@rtfm.com: > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please expand RP and SRP on first use. > > What is the backward compatibility story here? I.e., say I only support method > X and the peer doesn't know about this TLV at all? 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I meant a different case. What happens when an existing PCEP speaker (which is not familiar with this TLV) tries to talk to someone who (a) doesn't use RSVP-TE (b) advertises that fact via this mechanism. I believe you get some kind of handshake failure. Is that correct? -Ekr > The exact wording will be updated to address other comments, e.g.: > - MUST -> will, > - Make it explicit that an ignored TLV is similar to an absent TLV, and > implies the only existing method before this I-D, i.e. X == RSVP-TE > signaling (cf. Martin's comment). > > Thanks, > > Julien > > > Apr. 04, 2018 - ekr@rtfm.com: > > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria. > html > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > COMMENT: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Please expand RP and SRP on first use. > > > > What is the backward compatibility story here? I.e., say I only support > method > > X and the peer doesn't know about this TLV at all? How will it behave? > > > > > --000000000000beb186056909fd23 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Julien Meuric <julien.meuric@or= ange.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,=

As a shepherd, I can address your 2nd concern without waiting for the
authors.

For both defined TLVs, the backward compatibility is addressed by the
last sentence of sections 3 and 4:
"=C2=A0 If a PCEP speaker does not recognize the PATH-SETUP-xxx
=C2=A0 =C2=A0TLV, it MUST ignore the TLV in accordance with ([RFC5440]).&qu= ot;

Sorry for not being clear. I meant = a different case. What happens when an existing
PCEP speaker (whi= ch is not familiar with this TLV) tries to talk to someone who
(a= ) doesn't use RSVP-TE (b) advertises that fact via this mechanism. I be= lieve
you get some kind of handshake failure. Is that correct?

-Ekr


The exact wording will be updated to address other comments, e.g.:
- MUST -> will,
- Make it explicit that an ignored TLV is similar to an absent TLV, and
implies the only existing method before this I-D, i.e. X =3D=3D RSVP-TE
signaling (cf. Martin's comment).

Thanks,

Julien


Apr. 04, 2018 - ekr@rtfm.com:
> Eric Rescorla has entered the = following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: No Objection
>
> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all<= br> > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut thi= s
> introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/i= esg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>
>
> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> COMMENT:
> ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
>
> Please expand RP and SRP on first use.
>
> What is the backward compatibility story here? I.e., say I only suppor= t method
> X and the peer doesn't know about this TLV at all? How will it beh= ave?
>
>

--000000000000beb186056909fd23-- From nobody Wed Apr 4 16:24:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3785D126FB3; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Kumari To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152288423822.25900.10874519726332518852.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:23:58 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with DISCUSS) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 23:23:58 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ignas balloted NoObj; I'll be the baddie. Section 6. Manageability Considerations says: --- Each document that introduces a new path setup type to PCEP must include a manageability section. The manageability section must explain how operators can manage PCEP with the new path setup type. It must address the following questions, which are generally applicable when working with multiple path setup types in PCEP. o What are the criteria for when devices will use the new path setup type in PCEP, and how can the operator control this? o How can the network be migrated to the new path setup type, and are there any backwards compatibility issues that operators need to be aware of? o Are paths set up using the new path setup type intended to coexist with other paths over the long term and, if so, how is this situation managed with PCEP? ---- So, I see lots of open questions, but no answers to any of these.... 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Authors - please could you resubmit the document (without changes) as draft= -ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-00. There were some comments received from Greg Mirsky during working group las= t call. Authors - please could you ensure that these comments are addresse= d promptly. If any changes are required, you can include them in version -= 01 of the document. Many thanks Jon From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com] Sent: 27 March 2018 12:10 To: pce@ietf.org; draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection@ietf.o= rg Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-prote= ction-05 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-st= ateful-path-protection-05 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-pr= otection/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, April 10. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_CY1PR0201MB14366123FFC89260CD85268884BE0CY1PR0201MB1436_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This poll has ended, with the result that the docume= nt will be adopted by the PCE working group.

 

Authors – please could you resubmit the docume= nt (without changes) as draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-00.

 

There were some comments received from Greg Mirsky d= uring working group last call.  Authors – please could you ensur= e that these comments are addressed promptly.  If any changes are requ= ired, you can include them in version -01 of the document.

 

Many thanks

Jon

 

From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 27 March 2018 12:10
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection= @ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-pat= h-protection-05

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection-05 a PCE working group docume= nt.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/draft-ananthakrishnan-pce-stateful-path-protection/

 

Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.&= nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.  If yes, please als= o feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April 10.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

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If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_CY1PR0201MB143666BCBBFB5C00E0073E4284BE0CY1PR0201MB1436_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pc= e-association-bidir/

 

Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.&= nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.  If yes, please als= o feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

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"pce-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8A888691-440E-40B9-A549-37C36F7CAFDA@gmail.com> References: To: Jonathan Hardwick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:11:21 -0000 WG, Chairs, =20 Yes/support (as a co-author). =20 Thanks, -Colby > On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Jonathan Hardwick = wrote: >=20 > Dear PCE WG > =20 > This is the start of a two week poll on making = draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group document. > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/ > =20 > Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating = =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D. = If 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Wed, 11 Apr 2018 02:40:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.78.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152343964543.2380.9216416584900271496@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 02:40:45 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-00.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:40:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for MPSL-TE LSP Path Protection with stateful PCE Authors : Hariharan Ananthakrishnan Siva Sivabalan Colby Barth Raveendra Torvi Ina Minei Edward Crabbe Dhruv Dhody Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-00.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2018-04-11 Abstract: A stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) is capable of computing as well as controlling via Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (MPLS LSP). Furthermore, it is also possible for a stateful PCE to create, maintain, and delete LSPs. This document describes PCEP extension to associate two or more LSPs to provide end-to-end path protection. 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Regards, - Pavan On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Jonathan Hardwick < Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote: > Dear PCE WG > > > > This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-barth-pce-associatio= n-bidir-04 > a PCE working group document. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/ > > > > Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating > =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D. If= indicating no, please state your > reasons. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to > see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > > > The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Jon and Julien > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > --089e0826f7043b6394056992b99b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes/Support.

Regards,
- Pa= van

On T= ue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.H= ardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

Dear PCE WG

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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/

=C2=A0

Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2= =80=9D.=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state your reasons.=C2=A0 If yes, pl= ease also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed onc= e the document is a WG document.

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The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24.

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Many thanks,

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Jon and Julien

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boundary="00000000000092378f0569b1e024" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:46:24 -0000 --00000000000092378f0569b1e024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/Support. 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Dear PCE WG

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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/

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Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2= =80=9D.=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state your reasons.=C2=A0 If yes, pl= ease also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed onc= e the document is a WG document.

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The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24.

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Many thanks,

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Jon and Julien

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Ravi From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:05 AM To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-= bidir-04 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_CY1PR05MB25217326794F657B3F99A8B8ABB30CY1PR05MB2521namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi

Yes/support.

 

Ravi=

 

 

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:05 AM
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidi= r-04

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group do= cument.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= barth-pce-association-bidir/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do= not support”.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs= p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April= 24.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

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--_000_909BB68C356E410C911964481A4188FEciscocom_-- From nobody Mon Apr 16 02:06:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15E91275AB; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:06:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FzgibhnbKlSW; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E60E4124239; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 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X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.149.39] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D681080BLREML503MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:06:27 -0000 --_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D681080BLREML503MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support! A few comments that can be handled in the later versions (1) An error handling when this condition is not met - o An LSP can not be part of more than one Bidirectional LSP Association Group. (2) Update the section 2.1 with new template based on RFC8174 (3) In section 3.1, add clarity on who reports the reverse LSP LSP2, the = remote endpoint D or the originating node A? Need to consider deletion and = status down as well. (4) Clarification on if more than one forward and reverse LSP can be part= of the association group (5) A word on association source maybe simply a reference to [I-D.ietf-pc= e-association] will do! Thanks! Dhruv From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: 10 April 2018 19:35 To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-= bidir-04 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D681080BLREML503MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Suppo= rt!

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A few= comments that can be handled in the later versions

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(1)   An error handling when this condition is not met –

 &nbs= p; o  An LSP can not be part of more than one Bidirectional LSP

 &nbs= p;    Association Group.

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(2)   Update the section 2.1 with new template based on RFC8174

(3)   In section 3.1, add clarity on who reports the reverse LSP LSP2, the rem= ote endpoint D or the originating node A? Need to consider deletion and status down as well. 

(4)   Clarification on if more than one forward and reverse LSP can be part of= the association group

(5)   A word on association source maybe simply a reference to [I-D.ietf-pce-a= ssociation] will do!

=  

Thank= s!

Dhruv=

=  

From:<= /span> Pce [mailto:pce-bounc= es@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: 10 April 2018 19:35
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidi= r-04

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group do= cument.

https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do= not support”.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs= p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April= 24.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

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Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:21:35 -0000 On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 03:43:33PM +0000, Jonathan Hardwick wrote: > Hi Benjamin > > Thanks for the comments - please see [Jon] below. > > Cheers > Jon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Kaduk [mailto:kaduk@mit.edu] > Sent: 02 April 2018 19:20 > To: The IESG > Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org; Julien Meuric ; pce-chairs@ietf.org; julien.meuric@orange.com; pce@ietf.org > Subject: Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) > > > > I'm concerned about defining the space for optional sub-TLVs in PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY but not giving much description of how future sub-TLVs would work (since none are currently defined). Is there expected to be a one-to-one mapping from PST to sub-TLV, or one-to-many, or something else? If a given sub-TLV can be associated with more than one PST, some rules would need to be specified for how that mapping works, what dependency there is on the order in which sub-TLVs appear in the message, etc. I am not balloting DISCUSS because I suspect the intent is for each sub-TLV to correspond to exactly one PST, in which case the behavior is pretty easy. But I would like to see more description of how this is expected to work. > > [Jon] The intent is for zero or one sub-TLV per path setup type, with each sub-TLV applying to exactly one path setup type. How about this change: > > OLD > A list of sub-TLVs associated with the supported PSTs. > NEW > A list of sub-TLVs associated with the supported PSTs. Each PST has zero or one sub-TLVs associated with it, and each sub-TLV is associated with exactly one PST. > END Sounds good. > > Both new TLVs have 'Reserved' fields that MUST be set to zero. Should they be ignored on receipt (to allow for potential future use as an extension) or can the receiver validate that they are zero? > > [Jon] Yes they should be ignored on receipt - fixed. > > > > The Security Considerations defer to RFCs 5440 and 8281, which (as the secdir review notes) is mostly okay. RFC 5440 does have a long discussion of the value of TCP authentication, but IIUC it does not mandate that TCP authentication be used. That would leave open the possibility that an attacker (e.g., TCP MITM) could generate error messages when a particular PST is used, potentially forcing the use of a different PST, and this attacker capability seems to be new in this document. As such, it would merit a mention in the Security Considerations. (This attack only becomes relevant in the face of some additional weakness or flaw in a PST that makes forcing its use advantageous to the attacker for other reasons.) > > [Jon] How about we add the following to the security considerations? > > NEW > Note that, if the security mechanisms of [RFC5440] and [RFC8281] are not used, then the protocol described by this draft could be attacked in the following new way. An attacker, using a TCP man-in-the-middle attack, could inject error messages into the PCEP session when a particular PST is (or is not) used. By doing so, the attacker could potentially force the use of a specific PST, which may allow them to subsequently attack a weakness in that PST. > END That captures what I was describing; thanks again. -Benjamin From nobody Mon Apr 16 09:35:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192D412DA13; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cEyW35z8vA9s; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22d.google.com (mail-yw0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0F3612D95F; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id h14so6842960ywm.1; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=L8vNu/AZDId/5TOr/6OZIcUQcCxks0DkWxvhtuoVg70=; b=O31Coy0ARekjgBHY7tBLCPcRK329tukaBRwgDJNoGJvYV5dc/6P4mKmX/Jq023qYEd oq9XOkh6f8PBVOVhdpKNc/qIh0Ci0o1K07rdtOl1k3k5ofOg/UkK/DeQ+8dA69RS6JNY GA2K1NbSEALFVnAfmvNrIeC+aa3fJc68JQYpWQkaNDKlhgXVFXFGmiwR+4oOWh44qqUo Waa5czTXNuZwLmLJlgAe8ej3jc6DiQZNTYBqHATh6A36Hr/VVqvqobjiNqQp3GVUpiUV kYf4HOgXpkrZqUvEPHkdaWQMUZw2L/mbw0LTm0Al1wNfKBzgHrdgwPvdUQ9xngqLRNnT lD7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=L8vNu/AZDId/5TOr/6OZIcUQcCxks0DkWxvhtuoVg70=; b=tRQMzdHDeucHHsr63Smjd3YmRHvFh8hgrGlBuYNe0wQNigNlwFk+OKG5CXLNmSWtJ7 FcxI6f0zQG3fvwj6a+1gb1cXxLqxvgMR+YW+FYpmZa0nZn9z/1L6fy/Lj8LqvVWElqRf unfKiBhJedvyAa+KG2n5AKrt9JvyCmDxG6CfJzQBgYdSgMGfQ/KOrUaIaLqfNz2nrouw pNpJDwS2f2xKsEje9+Uh3l/qIwPql8xUPc9vusz3p2OWZ8Z3sFHI756B9mHUoLaEhI9z /bdRhd7x6HQ1h7iVsCQnmkz9TyeyBYauJnaCS9vXmzkzgiaNWj0mwi9CnfDZE0+x8R/n lFeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCGgOekbdieJnfoNMFje4pK6+Veo68dub7yd2qqNDpZ4LThuMCh kN0040o1DXaCONe+4BqkDJ/rBl7XwcrVbka05z0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49ErLI0AeGWLDiJAuypiEOO25nHr5pATJNjIO2W0tTUxXesqBS61+UqZCjw5m2cJ6WGAUJnRNVbJwteJljQGlU= X-Received: by 10.13.232.5 with SMTP id r5mr8439984ywe.27.1523896519683; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:35:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a5b:c06:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <152272215377.13963.14745053686383999008.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:35:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Hardwick Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" , "julien.meuric@orange.com" , "pce@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c0c5178baf39d0569f9cefb" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:35:23 -0000 --94eb2c0c5178baf39d0569f9cefb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Jonathan, On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Hardwick < Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote: > Hi Spencer > > Thanks for your comments. Please see [Jon] below. > > Cheers > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com] > Sent: 03 April 2018 03:23 > To: The IESG > Cc: draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org; Julien Meuric < > julien.meuric@orange.com>; pce-chairs@ietf.org; julien.meuric@orange.com; > pce@ietf.org > Subject: Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: > (with COMMENT) > > > I'll let you folks work with Benjamin on this, but I echo his concern > about the level of specification covering sub-TLVs (Spencer's summary: "not > much specification"). As a related comment, I note that not defining any > sub-TLVs in this document prevents the authors from giving any examples of > what sub-TLVs might be appropriate, which would have been helpful for me in > both the Abstract and Introduction. > > (I usually prefer clues about whether the reader should be reading a > specification or not. It would be easier for me to know whether this > document is relevant to me, if I knew what kinds of sub-TLVs were > envisioned, even if only a couple of examples were provided. But do the > right thing, of course) > > [Jon] I have proposed an update to Benjamin. The draft does not need any > sub-TLVs, hence there are no examples, which has been a frequent pattern in > PCE RFCs since the working group got started! Having said that, we could > immediately point to the first real example of a PST sub-TLV by providing > an informative reference to draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing. I don't see > a problem doing this as the documents were always intended to be published > together. How about > > OLD > This document does not define any sub-TLVs. > NEW > This document does not define any sub-TLVs; an example can be found in > [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing]. > END > Since I was echoing Benjamin's concern, I'll echo his relief - whatever you folks work out, will work for me. But that sounds like a fine plan to me. Spencer --94eb2c0c5178baf39d0569f9cefb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Jonathan,

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:
Hi Spencer

Thanks for your comments.=C2=A0 Please see [Jon] below.

Cheers
Jon

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Subject: Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type= -09: (with COMMENT)


I'll let you folks work with Benjamin on this, but I echo his concern a= bout the level of specification covering sub-TLVs (Spencer's summary: &= quot;not much specification").=C2=A0 As a related comment, I note that= not defining any sub-TLVs in this document prevents the authors from givin= g any examples of what sub-TLVs might be appropriate, which would have been= helpful for me in both the Abstract and Introduction.

(I usually prefer clues about whether the reader should be reading a specif= ication or not. It would be easier for me to know whether this document is = relevant to me, if I knew what kinds of sub-TLVs were envisioned, even if o= nly a couple of examples were provided. But do the right thing, of course)<= br>
[Jon] I have proposed an update to Benjamin.=C2=A0 The draft does no= t need any sub-TLVs, hence there are no examples, which has been a frequent= pattern in PCE RFCs since the working group got started!=C2=A0 Having said= that, we could immediately point to the first real example of a PST sub-TL= V by providing an informative reference to draft-ietf-pce-segment-rout= ing.=C2=A0 I don't see a problem doing this as the documents were alway= s intended to be published together.=C2=A0 How about

OLD
=C2=A0 This document does not define any sub-TLVs.
NEW
=C2=A0 This document does not define any sub-TLVs; an example can be found = in [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing].
END

Since I was echoing Benjamin's = concern, I'll echo his relief - whatever you folks work out, will work = for me.

But that sounds like a fine plan to me.

Spencer=C2=A0
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Please see [Jon] below. > > > > Cheers > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com] > > Sent: 03 April 2018 03:23 > > > > [Jon] I have proposed an update to Benjamin. The draft does not need any > > sub-TLVs, hence there are no examples, which has been a frequent pattern in > > PCE RFCs since the working group got started! Having said that, we could > > immediately point to the first real example of a PST sub-TLV by providing > > an informative reference to draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing. I don't see > > a problem doing this as the documents were always intended to be published > > together. How about > > > > OLD > > This document does not define any sub-TLVs. > > NEW > > This document does not define any sub-TLVs; an example can be found in > > [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing]. > > END > > > > Since I was echoing Benjamin's concern, I'll echo his relief - whatever you > folks work out, will work for me. > > But that sounds like a fine plan to me. 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_D2A3CD31-E5A7-4B2E-8820-C2C86DD6F1DC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:45:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: The IESG , "pce@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org" To: Jonathan Hardwick References: <152278559049.22767.11110546429407373591.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:45:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D2A3CD31-E5A7-4B2E-8820-C2C86DD6F1DC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Your responses address all of my comments. Thanks! Ben. > On Apr 17, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Hardwick = wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben >=20 > Thanks for the comments - please see [Jon] below. >=20 > Best regards > Jon >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ben Campbell > Sent: 03 April 2018 21:00 > To: The IESG > Cc: pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org; = draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] Ben Campbell's No Objection on = draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09: (with COMMENT) >=20 > >=20 > Substantive Comments: >=20 > =C2=A71.1: There are at least a few instances of lower case versions = of 2119 keywords. Please consider using the boilerplate from RFC 8174. >=20 > [Jon] OK - done >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A77: > Doesn't this need to say something about the possible security = considerations when adding new path setup types ? >=20 > [Jon] I added the following in response to a similar comment from = Benjamin Kaduk. Do you think this covers it? >=20 > NEW > Note that, if the security mechanisms of [RFC5440] and [RFC8281] are = not used, then the protocol described by this draft could be attacked in = the following new way. An attacker, using a TCP man-in-the-middle = attack, could inject error messages into the PCEP session when a = particular PST is (or is not) used. By doing so, the attacker could = potentially force the use of a specific PST, which may allow them to = subsequently attack a weakness in that PST. > END >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Editorial Comments and Nits: >=20 > =C2=A75: "... it MUST consider that the peer suports only ...: I think = perhaps "consider" should have been "assume"? 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<152405702820.31749.8152533217193427444.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 06:10:28 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] pce - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 102 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:10:28 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Julien Meuric, a Chair of the pce working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Path Computation Element Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Julien Meuric Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: ccamp mpls teas Second Priority: idr spring rtgarea lsr Third Priority: sfc pals detnet rtgwg netmod netconf People who must be present: Deborah Brungard Julien Meuric Jonathan Hardwick Resources Requested: Special Requests: 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Thanks Young From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:05 AM To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-= bidir-04 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFD87A8sjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support.

 

Thanks

Young

 

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:05 AM
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidi= r-04

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week= poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group do= cument.

https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/

 

Please review the draft and sen= d an email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do= not support”.  If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs= p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April= 24.

 

Many thanks,<= /p>

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

--_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFD87A8sjceml521mbschi_-- From nobody Tue Apr 24 21:59:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18922126FB3; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:59:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152463236606.19895.15615454473034560482@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:59:26 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:59:26 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths Authors : Udayasree Palle Dhruv Dhody Yosuke Tanaka Vishnu Pavan Beeram Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2018-04-24 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point- to-multipoint (P2MP) TE Label Switched Paths (LSPs). This document provides extensions required for Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in supporting P2MP TE LSPs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Apr 24 22:06:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA82126DED; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:06:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QsmrHthgbP-m; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD52A126D73; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id AA9131D348D01; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 06:06:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from BLREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.41) by lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.46) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 06:06:02 +0100 Received: from BLREML503-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.12.113]) by BLREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.20.4.41]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:35:52 +0530 From: Dhruv Dhody To: "pce@ietf.org" CC: 'Dhruv Dhody' , "draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHT3FJSmDNq37PZdkSKXBGsXMliFqQQ697Q Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:05:52 +0000 Message-ID: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D68ACC2@BLREML503-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <152463236606.19895.15615454473034560482@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <152463236606.19895.15615454473034560482@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.149.39] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:06:07 -0000 Hi WG,=20 This update reflects the early code point allocated by IANA, as well as add= s this text -=20 6.7. Adding and Pruning Leaves to/from the P2MP Tree Section 3.10 of [RFC8306] defines the error-handling procedures when adding new leaves to or removing old leaves from the existing P2MP tree for PCReq message. The same error handling and error-codes are also applicable to the stateful PCE messages as described in this document.=20 ...to clarify that the error handling of incorrect P2MP ENDPOINT object is = applied to Stateful messages as well.=20 Thanks!=20 Dhruv -- Dhruv Dhody=20 Lead Architect Network Business Line Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd. Survey No. 37, Next to EPIP Area, Kundalahalli, Whitefield Bengaluru, Karnataka - 560066=20 Tel: + 91-80-49160700 Ext 71583 II Email: dhruv.dhody@huawei.com This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWE= I, which=20 is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. An= y use of the=20 information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, tot= al or partial=20 disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the inten= ded=20 recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please not= ify the sender by=20 phone or email immediately and delete it! > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: 25 April 2018 10:29 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol > Extensions for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic > Engineering Label Switched Paths > Authors : Udayasree Palle > Dhruv Dhody > Yosuke Tanaka > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.txt > Pages : 33 > Date : 2018-04-24 >=20 > Abstract: > The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an > appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point- > to-multipoint (P2MP) TE Label Switched Paths (LSPs). This document > provides extensions required for Path Computation Element > Communication Protocol (PCEP) so as to enable the usage of a stateful > PCE capability in supporting P2MP TE LSPs. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Tue Apr 24 23:49:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F02127023; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:49:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152463895877.19970.4664063733571276605@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:49:18 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-01.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 06:49:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Associating Working and Protection LSPs with Stateful PCE Authors : Hariharan Ananthakrishnan Siva Sivabalan Colby Barth Raveendra Torvi Ina Minei Edward Crabbe Dhruv Dhody Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-04-24 Abstract: A stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) is capable of computing as well as controlling via Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (MPLS LSP). Furthermore, it is also possible for a stateful PCE to create, maintain, and delete LSPs. This document describes PCEP extension to associate two or more LSPs to provide end-to-end path protection. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Please see inline On 23 February 2018 at 08:51, Dhruv Dhody wrote: > Hi Cyril, > > > > Thanks for your review and suggestions. I could not get to this earlier, > apologies for that! Please see inline... > > > > Diff: https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools. > ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04.txt&url2=3D > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/ > master/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05.txt > > Txt: https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft- > ietf-pce-association-group-05.txt > > > > *From:* Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Cyril Margaria > *Sent:* 02 February 2018 04:54 > *To:* LITKOWSKI Stephane DTF/DERX > *Cc:* pce@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > > > Hi, > > > > I support the feature, I have the following comment regarding the draft: > > - There is not mandated capability negotiation, this generally makes > interworking more cumbersome. > > This could be resolved by mandating the presence of OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANG= E, > and using reserved value 0,0 for Start-Assoc-ID, Range to indicate that > there is no > > Operator-configured Association Range. > > > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] The presence of ASSOCIATION object in PCEP message is a = good indicator for this feature. Not sure if there is a need to exchange ca= pabilities in OPEN, we have followed the similar approach in RFC5455, 5520,= 5521 etc. * > > [MC] Peer capability discovery is supported in RFC5541, RFC8281, RFC6006. The ability to know which type of association (bidirectional LSP, path protection,..etc) is supported affect the Path Computation, and in addition the reception of an unknown object will close the session, which is less than ideal at scale. If the OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE is not meaningful, then a TLV for discovery is needed (list of association source and reserved flags for draft use would be ideal) Section 4.1 : what happens if the dynamic allocation ranges do not match between the two peer ? is it allowed or should the session be bounced? > > A special case can be made when one peer advertise (0,0) > > > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added an appendix with an example to make this cl= earer, please let me know if I need to make any change for this! * > > > > The example helps, maybe the following change in version 5, section 3.4 would clarify further: OLD: A range of association identifier for each association-type are kept for the operator-configured associations. Dynamic associations MUST NOT use the association identifier from this range. This range as set at the PCEP speaker (as an association source) needs to be communicated to a PCEP peer in the Open Message. A new TLV is defined in this specification for this purpose (Section 4 = ). See Appendix A for an example. NEW: A range of association identifier for each association-type,association-source are kept for the operator-configured associations. Dynamic associations MUST NOT use the association identifier from this range. This range as set at the PCEP speaker (PCC or PCE) and needs to be communicated to a PCEP peer in the Open Message. A new TLV is defined in this specification for this purpose (Section 4 = ). See Appendix A for an example. Association identifier range for sources other than the PCEP peer (an NMS system for example) is outside the scope of this document, -- > section 5.2.1: > > - the PCC can remove an association by setting the R flag to 1, if the P= CC does not include any association, should the association be kept on the = LSP? > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] The R flag is set in association, if association id is z= ero, that is invalid; if association id is 0xffff, then it is all associati= on within the scope of association type/source; otherwise it looks for asso= ciation, if not found it is considered as unknown association. * > > So > - I think the following should be added : PCRpt: all associations MUST b= e reported during state synchronization > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack. * > > - Value 0 was previously used to ask a peer to allocate an association I= D. Is it deemed not necessary anymore. > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] Yes* > > > > > > Section 5.3: > > - the "association information" is not defined. The whole section can be= clarified by detailing what the association information is.: > > is it (association type, association source, association-id), from the as= sociation group definitions, the triplet defines a group, so it should be p= ossible to have several association id for th same type, source > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added a new section on it, also clarified =E2=80= =9Cassociation information=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cassociation parameters=E2= =80=9D in section 5.3* > > That is clarified, but as the global id and extended id are optional, I understand that (association type, association source, association-id) and (association type, association source, association-id, extended-id) for example (10,10,10) and (10,10,10,0) are two different associations, correct= ? > > Does the the "association information previously received about the same = association from a peer" relates to the association group (should there be = an unique association id per lsp for a given type,source) > > or does it refers to the optional TLVs. > > > > " > > On receiving association > > information that does not match with the association information > > previously received about the same association from a peer, it MUST > > return a PCErr message with Error-Type TBD "Association Error" and > > Error-Value 6 "Association information mismatch"" > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] it is latter, I have updated! * > > So that means that the association information is immutable, a peer has to delete the association (id is association-parameters), then re-create it with same id, new association information. I find this quite restrictive and might cause churn. For instance the path protection and diversity group have such information, and not being able to update them seems too restrictive (changing a secondary to standby for instance) > > This could be clarified, IMHO generally speaking the draft should allow s= everal association id per (type, source), this kind of restriction may be d= efined in the documents defining the association types. > > > > *[[Dhruv Dhody]] Please check the diff and let me know if there is scope = of any other improvement. * > > The processing rules were expanded greatly, some new comments: If a PCEP speaker receives ASSOCIATION in PCReq message, and the association is not known (association is not configured, or created dynamically, or learned from a PCEP peer), it MUST return a PCErr message with Error-Type 26 (Early allocation by IANA) "Association Error" and Error-Value 4 "Association unknown". I am confused, that forbids PCReq on LSP with unknown association. If the P bit is set, maybe, bit its likely association-dependent. > > *Thanks for your patience. * > > > > *Regards,* > > *Dhruv* > > > > Thanks, Cyril > > > > On 1 February 2018 at 10:38, wrote: > > Support > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 15:10 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group > > Hi all, > > This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for > draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your > feedback on the PCE mailing list. 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[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added an =
appendix with an example to make this clearer, please let me know if I need=
 to make any change for this! 


=C2=A0

<= /div>
   A range of association identifier f=
or each association-type,association-source are kept
   for the operator-configured associations.  Dynamic associations MUST
   NOT use the association identifier from this range.

   This range as set at the PCEP speaker (PCC or PCE) and
   needs to be communicated to a PCEP peer in the Open Message.  A new
   TLV is defined in this specification for this purpose (Section 4).
   See Appendix A for an exa=
mple.

=
   Association identifier range for sources other than the PCEP peer (an NM=
S system for example) is outside the scope of this document,
--


=C2=A0
section 5.2.1:<=
/u>
 - the PCC can rem=
ove an association by setting the R flag to 1, if the PCC does not include =
any association, should the association be kept on the LSP?
[[Dhruv Dhody]] The R flag is se=
t in association, if association id is zero, that is invalid; if associatio=
n id is 0xffff, then it is all association within the scope of association =
type/source; otherwise it looks for association, if not found it is conside=
red as unknown association. =

So=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0- I think t=
he following should be added : PCRpt: all associations MUST be reported dur=
ing state synchronization
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack. =

=C2=A0- Value 0 wa=
s previously used to ask a peer to allocate an association ID. Is it deemed=
 not necessary anymore. 
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Yes
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Section 5.3: 
=C2=A0- the "=
association information" is not defined. The whole section can be clar=
ified by detailing what the association information is.: 
is it (association=
 type, association source, association-id), from the association group defi=
nitions, the triplet defines a group, so it should be possible to have seve=
ral association id for th same type, source
[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added a n=
ew section on it, also clarified =E2=80=9Cassociation information=E2=80=9D =
and =E2=80=9Cassociation parameters=E2=80=9D in section 5.3<=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(31,73,125)">
That is clarified, but a= s the global id and extended id are optional, I understand that=C2=A0 =C2= =A0(association type, association source, assoc= iation-id) and=C2=A0(association type, a= ssociation source, association-id, extended-id) for example (10,10,10) and = (10,10,10,0) are two different associations, correct?
=C2= =A0


<=
br>Does the the "association information previously received about the=
 same association from a peer" relates to the association group (shoul=
d there be an unique association id per lsp for a given type,source) 


o=
r does it refers to the optional TLVs.


<=
u>=C2=A0


"


=C2=A0=C2=A0 On re=
ceiving association


=C2=A0=C2=A0 information th=
at does not match with the association information

=C2=A0=C2=A0 previously rec=
eived about the same association from a peer, it MUST<=
/pre>

=C2=A0=C2=A0 return a PCErr=
 message with Error-Type TBD "Association Error" and


=C2=A0=C2=A0 Error-Value 6 =
"Association information mismatch""

[[Dhruv Dhody]] it is latter, I =
have updated! =

So = that means that the association information is immutable, a peer has to del= ete the association (id is association-parameters), then re-create it with same id, new associati= on information.

I find this quite restrictive and might cause churn. For instanc= e the path protection and diversity group have such information, and not be= ing able to update them seems too restrictive (changing=C2=A0 a secondary t= o standby for instance)=C2=A0
=C2=A0

=C2=A0
This could be clar=
ified, IMHO generally speaking the draft should allow several association i=
d per (type, source), this kind of restriction may be defined in the docume=
nts defining the association types.
=
=C2=A0
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Please check the=
 diff and let me know if there is scope of any other improvement.

The processing rules we= re expanded greatly,=C2=A0
some new comments:

   If a PCEP=
 speaker receives ASSOCIATION in PCReq message, and the
   association is not known (association is not configured, or created
   dynamically, or learned from a PCEP peer), it MUST return a PCErr
   message with Error-Type 26 (Early allocation by IANA) "Association
   Error" and Error-Value 4 "Association unknown".

=
I am confused, that forbids PCReq on LSP with unknown associatio= n. If the P bit is set, maybe, bit its likely association-dependent.
<= div>
=C2=A0
Thanks for your patience. 
=C2=A0

Regards,

Dhruv


=C2=A0


Thanks, Cyril=C2=
=A0

=C2=A0

On 1 February 2018 at 10:38, &l= t;stepha= ne.litkowski@orange.com> wrote:

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List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:29:13 -0000 --_000_CY1PR0201MB143603D14CCD861F99A9863F848E0CY1PR0201MB1436_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This poll has ended, with the result that the document will be adopted by t= he PCE working group. Authors - please could you resubmit the document (without changes) as draft= -ietf-pce-association-bidir-00. There were some comments received from Dhruv Dhody and Mike Taillon during = working group last call. Authors - please could you ensure that these comm= ents are addressed promptly. If any changes are required, you can include = them in version -01 of the document. Many thanks Jon & Julien From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com] Sent: 10 April 2018 15:05 To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04 Dear PCE WG This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-barth-pce-association-= bidir-04 a PCE working group document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-association-bidir/ Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo= rt" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reasons. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24. Many thanks, Jon and Julien --_000_CY1PR0201MB143603D14CCD861F99A9863F848E0CY1PR0201MB1436_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This poll has ended, with the result that the docume= nt will be adopted by the PCE working group.

 

Authors – please could you resubmit the docume= nt (without changes) as draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-00.

 

There were some comments received from Dhruv Dhody a= nd Mike Taillon during working group last call.  Authors – pleas= e could you ensure that these comments are addressed promptly.  If any= changes are required, you can include them in version -01 of the document.

 

Many thanks

Jon & Julien

 

 

From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 10 April 2018 15:05
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-association-bidir@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-association-bidir-04

 

Dear PCE WG

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft= -barth-pce-association-bidir-04 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pc= e-association-bidir/

 

Please review the draft and send an email to the lis= t indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.&= nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.  If yes, please als= o feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

The poll ends on Tuesday, April 24.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jon and Julien

 

 

--_000_CY1PR0201MB143603D14CCD861F99A9863F848E0CY1PR0201MB1436_-- From nobody Mon Apr 30 02:35:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C1812D94F; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 02:35:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152508094800.11751.1910052394378785848@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 02:35:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-00.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:35:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Associated Bidirectional Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Authors : Colby Barth Rakesh Gandhi Bin Wen Filename : draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-00.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-04-27 Abstract: The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests. The Stateful PCE extensions allow stateful control of Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering (TE) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) using PCEP. This document defines PCEP extensions for grouping two reverse unidirectional MPLS TE LSPs into an Associated Bidirectional LSP when using a Stateful PCE for both PCE-Initiated and PCC-Initiated LSPs as well as when using a Stateless PCE. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/