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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8231,
"Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions for Stateful PCE".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5376

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Hari Krushna Kotni <hkotni@juniper.net>

Section: 7.2

Original Text
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In case of SRP-ID-number wrapping, the last
   SRP-ID-number before the wrapping MUST be explicitly acknowledged, to
   avoid a situation where SRP-ID-numbers remain unacknowledged after
   the wrap.  This means that the PCC may need to issue two PCUpd
   messages on detecting a wrap.

Corrected Text
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In case of SRP-ID-number wrapping, the last
   SRP-ID-number before the wrapping MUST be explicitly acknowledged, to
   avoid a situation where SRP-ID-numbers remain unacknowledged after
   the wrap.  This means that the PCC may need to issue two PCRpt
   messages on detecting a wrap.

Notes
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incase of srp id wrap, once PCC detects it, PCC needs to issue PCRpt message not PCUpd message.

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RFC8231 (draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-21)
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Title               : Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions for Stateful PCE
Publication Date    : September 2017
Author(s)           : E. Crabbe, I. Minei, J. Medved, R. Varga
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Path Computation Element
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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Hi PCE WG!

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-wang-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-native-ip-01 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Monday, June 18.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The poll ends on Monday, June 18.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes/support.

BR, Huaimo
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Hi PCE WG!

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-wang-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-native-ip-01 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Monday, June 18.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien



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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 04, 2018 6:11 AM<br>
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>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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Yes, support (as co-author).

SY,
Boris

From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 1:11 PM
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-01

Hi PCE WG!

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-wang-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-native-ip-01 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Monday, June 18.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien



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<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and sen=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Monday, June 1=
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<div>The requirement language in this doc SHOULD be capitalized.</div>
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<span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi PCE WG!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-w=
ang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-01 a PCE working group document.<o:p></o:p=
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<span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and send an email to the list =
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If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp; If yes, please also feel=
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<span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Monday, June 18.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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The following errata report has been verified for RFC8231,
"Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions for Stateful PCE". 

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5376

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Status: Verified
Type: Technical

Reported by: Hari Krushna Kotni <hkotni@juniper.net>
Date Reported: 2018-06-01
Verified by: Deborah Brungard (IESG)

Section: 7.2

Original Text
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In case of SRP-ID-number wrapping, the last
   SRP-ID-number before the wrapping MUST be explicitly acknowledged, to
   avoid a situation where SRP-ID-numbers remain unacknowledged after
   the wrap.  This means that the PCC may need to issue two PCUpd
   messages on detecting a wrap.

Corrected Text
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In case of SRP-ID-number wrapping, the last
   SRP-ID-number before the wrapping MUST be explicitly acknowledged, to
   avoid a situation where SRP-ID-numbers remain unacknowledged after
   the wrap.  This means that the PCC may need to issue two PCRpt
   messages on detecting a wrap.

Notes
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incase of srp id wrap, once PCC detects it, PCC needs to issue PCRpt message not PCUpd message.

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RFC8231 (draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-21)
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Title               : Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions for Stateful PCE
Publication Date    : September 2017
Author(s)           : E. Crabbe, I. Minei, J. Medved, R. Varga
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Path Computation Element
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Hi PCE WG!</=
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e-pcep-extension-native-ip/</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5440,
"Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP)".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: VENUGOPAL REDDY KONDREDDY <k.venureddy2103@gmail.com>

Section: 6.8

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The Close message MUST contain exactly one CLOSE object (see
   Section 6.8). 

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The Close message MUST contain exactly one CLOSE object (see
   Section 7.17). 

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RFC5440 (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-19)
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Title               : Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP)
Publication Date    : March 2009
Author(s)           : JP. Vasseur, Ed., JL. Le Roux, Ed.
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Path Computation Element
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The following errata report has been held for document update 
for RFC5440, "Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP)". 

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Status: Held for Document Update
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Reported by: VENUGOPAL REDDY KONDREDDY <k.venureddy2103@gmail.com>
Date Reported: 2018-06-06
Held by: Deborah Brungard (IESG)

Section: 6.8

Original Text
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The Close message MUST contain exactly one CLOSE object (see
   Section 6.8). 

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The Close message MUST contain exactly one CLOSE object (see
   Section 7.17). 

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Section pointed in the text is incorrect.

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RFC5440 (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-19)
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Title               : Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP)
Publication Date    : March 2009
Author(s)           : JP. Vasseur, Ed., JL. Le Roux, Ed.
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Path Computation Element
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Chairs,

Venugopal is right, the text is in section 6.8 and the reference should be to
7.17.

Cheers,
Adrian

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> 
> --------------------------------------
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> 
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Editorial
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> Section: 6.8
> 
> Original Text
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> The Close message MUST contain exactly one CLOSE object (see
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> 
> Corrected Text
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8233,
"Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) to Compute Service-Aware Label Switched Paths (LSPs)".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: DHRUV DHODY <DHRUV.IETF@GMAIL.COM>

Section: 3.1

Original Text
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The METRIC object is defined in Section 7.8 of [RFC5440], comprising
metric-value and metric-type (T field), and a flags field, comprising
a number of bit flags (B bit and P bit).  This document defines the
following types for the METRIC object.

Corrected Text
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The METRIC object is defined in Section 7.8 of [RFC5440], comprising
metric-value and metric-type (T field), and a flags field, comprising
a number of bit flags (B bit and C bit).  This document defines the
following types for the METRIC object.

Notes
-----
The METRIC object (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.8) has 2 flags defined - B (Bound) and C (Computed Metric). The P bit is incorrect in the original text, it should be C bit.

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RFC8233 (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-service-aware-13)
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Title               : Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) to Compute Service-Aware Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
Publication Date    : September 2017
Author(s)           : D. Dhody, Q. Wu, V. Manral, Z. Ali, K. Kumaki
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Path Computation Element
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
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The following errata report has been held for document update 
for RFC8233, "Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) to Compute Service-Aware Label Switched Paths (LSPs)". 

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5389

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Status: Held for Document Update
Type: Editorial

Reported by: DHRUV DHODY <DHRUV.IETF@GMAIL.COM>
Date Reported: 2018-06-13
Held by: Deborah Brungard (IESG)

Section: 3.1

Original Text
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The METRIC object is defined in Section 7.8 of [RFC5440], comprising
metric-value and metric-type (T field), and a flags field, comprising
a number of bit flags (B bit and P bit).  This document defines the
following types for the METRIC object.

Corrected Text
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The METRIC object is defined in Section 7.8 of [RFC5440], comprising
metric-value and metric-type (T field), and a flags field, comprising
a number of bit flags (B bit and C bit).  This document defines the
following types for the METRIC object.

Notes
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The METRIC object (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.8) has 2 flags defined - B (Bound) and C (Computed Metric). The P bit is incorrect in the original text, it should be C bit.

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RFC8233 (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-service-aware-13)
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Title               : Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) to Compute Service-Aware Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
Publication Date    : September 2017
Author(s)           : D. Dhody, Q. Wu, V. Manral, Z. Ali, K. Kumaki
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Path Computation Element
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/agenda.html

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Applicability of Path Computation Element (PCE) for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
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Abstract:
   Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) refers to the set of
   virtual network (VN) operations needed to orchestrate, control and
   manage large-scale multi-domain TE networks so as to facilitate
   network programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and
   end-to-end virtual service aware connectivity and network function
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   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides
   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

   This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Hierarchical Stateful Path Computation Element (PCE).
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
                          Jongyoon Shin
                          Daniel King
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce-05.txt
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	Date            : 2018-06-18

Abstract:
   A Stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) maintains information on
   the current network state, including: computed Label Switched Path
   (LSPs), reserved resources within the network, and pending path
   computation requests. This information may then be considered when
   computing new traffic engineered LSPs, and for associated
   and dependent LSPs, received from Path Computation Clients (PCCs).

   The Hierarchical Path Computation Element (H-PCE) architecture,
   provides an architecture to allow the optimum sequence of
   inter-connected domains to be selected, and network policy to be
   applied if applicable, via the use of a hierarchical relationship
   between PCEs.

   Combining the capabilities of Stateful PCE and the Hierarchical PCE
   would be advantageous. This document describes general considerations
   and use cases for the deployment of Stateful PCE(s) using the
   Hierarchical PCE architecture.


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        Title           : Ability for a stateful PCE to request and obtain control of a LSP
        Authors         : Aswatnarayan Raghuram
                          Al Goddard
                          Chaitanya Yadlapalli
                          Jay Karthik
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Jon Parker
                          Dhruv Dhody
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   The stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol
   (PCEP) extensions provide stateful control of Multiprotocol Label
   Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths (TE LSP)
   via PCEP, for a model where a Path Computation Client (PCC) delegates
   control over one or more locally configured LSPs to a stateful PCE.
   There are use-cases in which a stateful PCE may wish to request and
   obtain control of one or more LSPs from a PCC.  This document
   describes a simple extension to stateful PCEP to achieve such an
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
        Authors         : Huaimo Chen
                          Yan Zhuang
                          Qin Wu
                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-03.txt
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        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs
        Authors         : Ina Minei
                          Edward Crabbe
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Hariharan Ananthakrishnan
                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Yosuke Tanaka
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06.txt
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   or between a set of LSPs and a set of attributes (such as
   configuration parameters or behaviors), and is equally applicable to
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Hi WG,

We have posted an update to the association group draft that handle the
final pending issue regarding capability advertisement.
See the update -
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-association-group-06

Hope the document can be sent to IESG soon!

Thanks!
Dhruv

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Cyril,
>
>
>
> Thanks for engaging, please see inline *[[Dhruv Dhody2]]*
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> Working Copy:
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> Diff:
> https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-iet=
f-pce-association-group-05.txt&url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/dhr=
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> Txt:
> https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft-ietf-pce-asso=
ciation-group-06.txt
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>
>
> Dhruv Dhody
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> *From:* Cyril Margaria [mailto:cyril.margaria@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 26 April 2018 00:13
> *To:* Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com>
> *Cc:* LITKOWSKI Stephane DTF/DERX <stephane.litkowski@orange.com>; Dhruv
> Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>; pce@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group
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>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the prompt reply, sorry for the not-so-prompt handling of that=
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>
> Please see inline
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>
>
> On 23 February 2018 at 08:51, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cyril,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your review and suggestions. I could not get to this earlier,
> apologies for that! Please see inline...
>
>
>
> Diff:
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f-pce-association-group-04.txt&url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/dhr=
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> Txt:
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ciation-group-05.txt
>
>
>
> *From:* Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Cyril Margaria
> *Sent:* 02 February 2018 04:54
> *To:* LITKOWSKI Stephane DTF/DERX <stephane.litkowski@orange.com>
> *Cc:* pce@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I support the feature, I have the following comment regarding the draft:
>
>   - There is not mandated capability negotiation, this generally makes
> interworking more cumbersome.
>
>   This could be resolved by mandating the presence of  OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANG=
E,
> and using reserved value 0,0 for  Start-Assoc-ID, Range to indicate that
> there is no
>
> Operator-configured Association Range.
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] The presence of ASSOCIATION object in PCEP message is a =
good indicator for this feature. Not sure if there is a need to exchange ca=
pabilities in OPEN, we have followed the similar approach in RFC5455, 5520,=
 5521 etc.  *
>
>  [MC] Peer capability discovery is supported in RFC5541, RFC8281,
> RFC6006. The ability to know which type of association (bidirectional LSP=
,
> path protection,..etc) is supported affect the Path Computation,
>
>    and in addition the reception of an unknown object will close the
> session, which is less than ideal at scale.
>
>  If the  OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE is not meaningful, then a TLV for discovery
> is needed (list of association source and reserved flags for draft use
> would be ideal)
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody2]] I can=E2=80=99t think of way to introduce this in a bac=
kward
> compatible way that would work with existing association implementations.
> Let me talk to the chairs on the resolving this! *
>
>
>
>
>
> Section 4.1 : what happens if the dynamic allocation ranges do not match =
between the two peer ? is it allowed or should the session be bounced?
>
>   A special case can be made when one peer advertise (0,0)
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added an appendix with an example to make this cl=
earer, please let me know if I need to make any change for this! *
>
>
>
> The example helps, maybe the following change in version 5, section 3.4
> would clarify further:
> OLD:
>
>    A range of association identifier for each association-type are kept
>
>    for the operator-configured associations.  Dynamic associations MUST
>
>    NOT use the association identifier from this range.
>
>
>
>    This range as set at the PCEP speaker (as an association source)
>
>    needs to be communicated to a PCEP peer in the Open Message.  A new
>
>    TLV is defined in this specification for this purpose (Section 4 <http=
s://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05#section-4>).
>
>    See Appendix A <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association=
-group-05#appendix-A> for an example.
>
> NEW:
>
>
>
>    A range of association identifier for each association-type,associatio=
n-source are kept
>
>    for the operator-configured associations.  Dynamic associations MUST
>
>    NOT use the association identifier from this range.
>
>
>
>    This range as set at the PCEP speaker (PCC or PCE) and
>
>    needs to be communicated to a PCEP peer in the Open Message.  A new
>
>    TLV is defined in this specification for this purpose (Section 4 <http=
s://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05#section-4>).
>
>    See Appendix A <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association=
-group-05#appendix-A> for an example.
>
>
>
>    Association identifier range for sources other than the PCEP peer (an =
NMS system for example) is outside the scope of this document,
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Ack, updated! *
>
>
>
>
>
> section 5.2.1:
>
>  - the PCC can remove an association by setting the R flag to 1, if the P=
CC does not include any association, should the association be kept on the =
LSP?
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] The R flag is set in association, if association id is z=
ero, that is invalid; if association id is 0xffff, then it is all associati=
on within the scope of association type/source; otherwise it looks for asso=
ciation, if not found it is considered as unknown association. *
>
>
>
> So
>
>
>
>  - I think the following should be added : PCRpt: all associations MUST b=
e reported during state synchronization
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack. *
>
>  - Value 0 was previously used to ask a peer to allocate an association I=
D. Is it deemed not necessary anymore.
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] Yes*
>
>
>
>
>
> Section 5.3:
>
>  - the "association information" is not defined. The whole section can be=
 clarified by detailing what the association information is.:
>
> is it (association type, association source, association-id), from the as=
sociation group definitions, the triplet defines a group, so it should be p=
ossible to have several association id for th same type, source
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added a new section on it, also clarified =E2=80=
=9Cassociation information=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cassociation parameters=E2=
=80=9D in section 5.3*
>
>  That is clarified, but as the global id and extended id are optional, I
> understand that   (association type, association source, association-id)
> and (association type, association source, association-id, extended-id) f=
or
> example (10,10,10) and (10,10,10,0) are two different associations, corre=
ct?
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Yes, I guess that would be aligned to RSVP-TE RFC 6780
> as well! At least I think it does! *
>
>
>
>
> Does the the "association information previously received about the same =
association from a peer" relates to the association group (should there be =
an unique association id per lsp for a given type,source)
>
> or does it refers to the optional TLVs.
>
>
>
> "
>
>    On receiving association
>
>    information that does not match with the association information
>
>    previously received about the same association from a peer, it MUST
>
>    return a PCErr message with Error-Type TBD "Association Error" and
>
>    Error-Value 6 "Association information mismatch""
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] it is latter, I have updated! *
>
>
>
> So that means that the association information is immutable, a peer has t=
o
> delete the association (id is association-parameters), then re-create it
> with same id, new association information.
>
>
>
> I find this quite restrictive and might cause churn. For instance the pat=
h
> protection and diversity group have such information, and not being able =
to
> update them seems too restrictive (changing  a secondary to standby for
> instance)
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Our intention was to say that you could not completely
> change the meaning of the association as a whole, as included in
> association-information. You can definitely change the state of the LSP a=
s
> a part of an association. I will try to reword this. *
>
> *Also the I-D where the association types are defined they could clarify
> this behavior as per each association-type use and encodings.  See update=
d
> text. *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This could be clarified, IMHO generally speaking the draft should allow s=
everal association id per (type, source), this kind of restriction may be d=
efined in the documents defining the association types.
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody]] Please check the diff and let me know if there is scope =
of any other improvement. *
>
>
>
> The processing rules were expanded greatly,
>
> some new comments:
>
>
>
>    If a PCEP speaker receives ASSOCIATION in PCReq message, and the
>
>    association is not known (association is not configured, or created
>
>    dynamically, or learned from a PCEP peer), it MUST return a PCErr
>
>    message with Error-Type 26 (Early allocation by IANA) "Association
>
>    Error" and Error-Value 4 "Association unknown".
>
>
>
> I am confused, that forbids PCReq on LSP with unknown association. If the
> P bit is set, maybe, bit its likely association-dependent.
>
>
>
> *[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Use of a path computation request message to create a
> new association state is not correct for a message that supposed to be fo=
r
> stateless PCE model. Ofcourse if PCE is aware of the association group
> already carrying this information as a part of PCReq is fine! *
>
> *A PCReq message on the other hand can notify PCE of a new association,
> and PCE would store the association state as part of LSP-DB. Does that ma=
ke
> sense? *
>
>
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Dhruv*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Thanks for your patience. *
>
>
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Dhruv*
>
>
>
> Thanks, Cyril
>
>
>
> On 1 February 2018 at 10:38, <stephane.litkowski@orange.com> wrote:
>
> Support
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Julien Meuric
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 15:10
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group
>
> Hi all,
>
> This message initiates a 2-week WG last call for
> draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04. Please review and share your feedbac=
k
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>
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if;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
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draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05.txt&amp;url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubuserco=
ntent.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/master/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06=
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https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-=
pce-association-group-05.txt&amp;url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/d=
hruvdhody-huawei/ietf/master/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06.txt</a><u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">Txt:
<a href=3D"https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft-ietf=
-pce-association-group-06.txt" target=3D"_blank">
https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft-ietf-pce-associ=
ation-group-06.txt</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 April 2018 00:13<br>
<b>To:</b> Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.dhody@huawei.com" target=
=3D"_blank">dhruv.dhody@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> LITKOWSKI Stephane DTF/DERX &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephane.litko=
wski@orange.com" target=3D"_blank">stephane.litkowski@orange.com</a>&gt;; D=
hruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dh=
ruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blan=
k">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for the prompt reply, sorry for the not-so-pr=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please see inline<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 23 February 2018 at 08:51, Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a hre=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Cyril,
</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks for your review and sugge=
stions. I could not get to this earlier, apologies for that! Please
 see inline...</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Diff:
<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/=
draft-ietf-pce-association-group-04.txt&amp;url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubuserco=
ntent.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/master/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05=
.txt" target=3D"_blank">
https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-=
pce-association-group-04.txt&amp;url2=3Dhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/d=
hruvdhody-huawei/ietf/master/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05.txt</a></s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Txt:
<a href=3D"https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft-ietf=
-pce-association-group-05.txt" target=3D"_blank">
https://github.com/dhruvdhody-huawei/ietf/blob/master/draft-ietf-pce-associ=
ation-group-05.txt</a>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Pce [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
pce-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cyril Margaria<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 February 2018 04:54<br>
<b>To:</b> LITKOWSKI Stephane DTF/DERX &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephane.litko=
wski@orange.com" target=3D"_blank">stephane.litkowski@orange.com</a>&gt;<br=
>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</=
a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pce] WG LC of draft-ietf-pce-association-group</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,=C2=A0<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I support the feature, I have the following comment =
regarding the draft:<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 - There is not mandated capability negotiatio=
n, this generally makes interworking more cumbersome.<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 This could be resolved by mandating the prese=
nce of=C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">OP-CONF-ASSO=
C-RANGE, and using reserved value 0,0 for=C2=A0=C2=A0Start-Assoc-ID, Range =
to
 indicate that there is no=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">Operator-configured Association Range.</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-I=
N"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] The presence of ASSOCIATION object in PCEP me=
ssage is a good indicator for this feature. Not sure if there is a need to =
exchange capabilities in OPEN, we have followed the similar approach in RFC=
5455, 5520, 5521 etc.=C2=A0 </span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u><=
/u></span></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:black">[MC] Peer capability discovery is supported i=
n RFC5541, RFC8281, RFC6006. The ability to know which type of association =
(bidirectional LSP, path protection,..etc) is supported
 affect the Path Computation,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0 =C2=A0and in addition the reception of an un=
known object will close the session, which is less than ideal at scale.</sp=
an><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0If the=C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:white">=
OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE is not meaningful, then a TLV for discovery is needed (=
list of association source and reserved flags for draft use would
 be ideal)=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif;background:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d;background:white"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">[[Dhruv Dhody2]] I can=E2=
=80=99t think of way to introduce this in a backward compatible way that wo=
uld work with existing association implementations. Let
 me talk to the chairs on the resolving this! <u></u><u></u></span></i></b>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">=C2=A0</span></i></b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#7030a0"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
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m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
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4.0pt">
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<div>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">Section 4.1 : what happens if the=
 dynamic allocation ranges do not match between the two peer ? is it allowe=
d or should the session be bounced? </span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u><=
/u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0A special case can be=
 made when one peer advertise (0,0)</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></=
u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-I=
N"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added an appendix with an example to m=
ake this clearer, please let me know if I need to make any change for this!=
 </span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The example helps, maybe the following change in ver=
sion 5, section 3.4 would clarify further:<br>
OLD:<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 A range of association identi=
fier for each association-type are kept<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 for the operator-configured a=
ssociations.=C2=A0 Dynamic associations MUST<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 NOT use the association ident=
ifier from this range.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 This range as set at the PCEP=
 speaker (as an association source)<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 needs to be communicated to a=
 PCEP peer in the Open Message.=C2=A0 A new<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 TLV is defined in this specif=
ication for this purpose (<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf=
-pce-association-group-05#section-4" target=3D"_blank">Section 4</a>).<u></=
u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 See <a href=3D"https://tools.=
ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05#appendix-A" target=3D"_bl=
ank">Appendix A</a> for an example.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;break-before:page;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black=
">=C2=A0=C2=A0 A range of association identifier for each association-type,=
association-source are kept<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 fo=
r the operator-configured associations.=C2=A0 Dynamic associations MUST<u><=
/u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 NO=
T use the association identifier from this range.<u></u><u></u></span></pre=
>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Th=
is range as set at the PCEP speaker (PCC or PCE) and<u></u><u></u></span></=
pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 ne=
eds to be communicated to a PCEP peer in the Open Message.=C2=A0 A new<u></=
u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 TL=
V is defined in this specification for this purpose (<a href=3D"https://too=
ls.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-05#section-4" target=3D"_=
blank"><span style=3D"color:#1155cc">Section 4</span></a>).<u></u><u></u></=
span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Se=
e <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-0=
5#appendix-A" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#1155cc">Appendix A</s=
pan></a> for an example.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;break-before:page;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;break-before:page;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black=
">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Association identifier range for sources other than the PCEP=
 peer (an NMS system for example) is outside the scope of this document,<u>=
</u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;break-before:page;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black=
">--<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;break-before:page;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;break-before:page;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:#1f49=
7d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Ack, updated! </s=
pan></i></b><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">section 5.2.1:</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span lang=3D"EN-IN" style=3D"color:black"> </span><span styl=
e=3D"color:black">- the PCC can remove an association by setting the R flag=
 to 1, if the PCC does not include any association, should the association =
be kept on the LSP?</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] The R flag is set in association, if associat=
ion id is zero, that is invalid; if association id is 0xffff, then it is al=
l association within the scope of association type/source; otherwise it loo=
ks for association, if not found it is considered as unknown association. <=
/span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0- I think the following sho=
uld be added : PCRpt: all associations MUST be reported during state synchr=
onization</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Ack. </span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u><=
/u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0- Value 0 was previously us=
ed to ask a peer to allocate an association ID. Is it deemed not necessary =
anymore. </span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Yes</span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u=
><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">Section 5.3: </span><span lang=3D=
"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0- the &quot;association inf=
ormation&quot; is not defined. The whole section can be clarified by detail=
ing what the association information is.: </span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></=
u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">is it (association type, associat=
ion source, association-id), from the association group definitions, the tr=
iplet defines a group, so it should be possible to have several association=
 id for th same type, source</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] I have added a new section on it, also clarif=
ied =E2=80=9Cassociation information=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cassociation para=
meters=E2=80=9D in section 5.3</span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u=
></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span lang=3D"EN-IN" style=3D"color:black"> </span><span lang=
=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">That is clarified, but as the global id and extended=
 id are optional, I understand that=C2=A0 =C2=A0<span style=3D"color:black"=
>(association type, association source, association-id) and=C2=A0(associati=
on type, association source, association-id, extended-id)
 for example (10,10,10) and (10,10,10,0) are two different associations, co=
rrect?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Yes, I gu=
ess that would be aligned to RSVP-TE RFC 6780 as well! At least I think it =
does!
<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black"><br>Does the the=
 &quot;association information previously received about the same associati=
on from a peer&quot; relates to the association group (should there be an u=
nique association id per lsp for a given type,source) </span><span lang=3D"=
EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">or does it refer=
s to the optional TLVs.</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p=
re>
<pre style=3D"background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">&quot;</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 On receiving associa=
tion</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 information that does not mat=
ch with the association information</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></=
u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 previously received about the=
 same association from a peer, it MUST</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u=
></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 return a PCErr message with E=
rror-Type TBD &quot;Association Error&quot; and</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN">=
<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Error-Value 6 &quot;Associati=
on information mismatch&quot;&quot;</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></=
u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] it is latter, I have updated! </span></i></b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So that means that the association information is im=
mutable, a peer has to delete the association (id is association-<span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">parameters), then re-create it with same=
 id, new association information.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">I find =
this quite restrictive and might cause churn. For instance the path protect=
ion and diversity group have such information, and not being able to update=
 them seems too restrictive (changing=C2=A0
 a secondary to standby for instance)=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Our inten=
tion was to say that you could not completely change the meaning of the ass=
ociation as a whole, as included in association-information.
 You can definitely change the state of the LSP as a part of an association=
. I will try to reword this.
<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">Also the I-D where the ass=
ociation types are defined they could clarify this behavior as per each ass=
ociation-type use and encodings.=C2=A0 See updated
 text. <u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
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m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
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<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">This could be clarified, IMHO gen=
erally speaking the draft should allow several association id per (type, so=
urce), this kind of restriction may be defined in the documents defining th=
e association types.</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-I=
N"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Please check the diff and let me know if ther=
e is scope of any other improvement. </span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u=
></u><u></u></span></pre>
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</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The processing rules were expanded greatly,=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">some new comments:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 If a PCEP speaker receives AS=
SOCIATION in PCReq message, and the<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 association is not known (ass=
ociation is not configured, or created<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 dynamically, or learned from =
a PCEP peer), it MUST return a PCErr<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 message with Error-Type 26 (E=
arly allocation by IANA) &quot;Association<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Error&quot; and Error-Value 4=
 &quot;Association unknown&quot;.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am confused, that forbids PCReq on LSP with unknow=
n association. If the P bit is set, maybe, bit its likely association-depen=
dent.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">[[Dhruv Dhody2]] Use of a =
path computation request message to create a new association state is not c=
orrect for a message that supposed to be for stateless
 PCE model. Ofcourse if PCE is aware of the association group already carry=
ing this information as a part of PCReq is fine!
<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">A PCReq message on the oth=
er hand can notify PCE of a new association, and PCE would store the associ=
ation state as part of LSP-DB. Does that make
 sense? <u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">Regards,<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0">Dhruv<u></u><u></u></span>=
</i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#7030a0"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></i></b></p>
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m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
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<div>
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<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">Thanks for your patience. </span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">Regards,</span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></pre>
<pre><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">Dhruv</span></i></b><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span=
></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-IN"=
><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word=
-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"color:black">Thanks, Cyril=C2=A0 </span><span =
lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></pre>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<span lang=3D"EN-IN"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 1 February 2018 at 10:38, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
tephane.litkowski@orange.com" target=3D"_blank">stephane.litkowski@orange.c=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Support<br>
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 15:10<br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Path Computation Element communication Protocol extension for associating Policies and LSPs
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Stephane Litkowski
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Jonathan Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-association-policy-03.txt
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	Date            : 2018-06-19

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   This document introduces a simple mechanism to associate policies to
   a group of Label Switched Paths (LSPs) via an extension to the Path
   Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP).


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Associating Working and Protection LSPs with Stateful PCE
        Authors         : Hariharan Ananthakrishnan
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Colby Barth
                          Raveendra Torvi
                          Ina Minei
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                          Dhruv Dhody
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-02.txt
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	Date            : 2018-06-19

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   A stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) is capable of computing as
   well as controlling via Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP)
   Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering Label Switched
   Paths (MPLS LSP).  Furthermore, it is also possible for a stateful
   PCE to create, maintain, and delete LSPs.  This document describes
   PCEP extension to associate two or more LSPs to provide end-to-end
   path protection.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Path Computation Element communication Protocol extension for signaling LSP diversity constraint
        Authors         : Stephane Litkowski
                          Siva Sivabalan
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                          Dhruv Dhody
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-association-diversity-04.txt
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   This document introduces a simple mechanism to associate a group of
   Label Switched Paths (LSPs) via an extension to the Path Computation
   Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) with the purpose of computing
   diverse paths for those LSPs.  The proposed extension allows a PCC to
   advertise to a PCE the belonging of a particular LSP to a disjoint-
   group, thus the PCE knows that LSPs in the same group must be
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Jonathan Hardwick
                          Vishnu Pavan Beeram
                          Jeff Tantsura
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08.txt
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   This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path
   Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications
   between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation
   Element (PCE), or between two PCEs.  The data model includes
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This poll has ended, with the result that the document will be adopted by t=
he PCE working group.

The chairs would like to point out that the number of people responding to =
this poll was low.  Including the four authors, there were only ten votes t=
o adopt.  The draft's connection to work in other WGs has led the chairs to=
 judge that it should be adopted.  However, in different circumstances, thi=
s could have been below the threshold required for adoption in PCE.  In oth=
er words: please could the WG note that, in general, we want to see a large=
r volume of support before adopting a draft.

Authors - please could you resubmit the document (without changes) as draft=
-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-00.

Best regards
Jon & Julien


From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 04 June 2018 11:11
To: pce@ietf.org; draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-01

Hi PCE WG!

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-wang-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-native-ip-01 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Monday, June 18.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This poll has ended, with the result that the docume=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The chairs would like to point out that the number o=
f people responding to this poll was low.&nbsp; Including the four authors,=
 there were only ten votes to adopt.&nbsp; The draft&#8217;s connection to =
work in other WGs has led the chairs to judge that
 it should be adopted.&nbsp; However, in different circumstances, this coul=
d have been below the threshold required for adoption in PCE.&nbsp; In othe=
r words: please could the WG note that, in general, we want to see a larger=
 volume of support before adopting a draft.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Authors &#8211; please could you resubmit the docume=
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:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon &amp; Julien<o:p></o:p></p>
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:EN-GB"> Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 June 2018 11:11<br>
<b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org; draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip@ietf.org<b=
r>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> WG adoption poll for draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-native-i=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi PCE WG!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The poll ends on Monday, June 18.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extension for Native IP Network
        Authors         : Aijun Wang
                          Boris Khasanov
                          Sudhir Cheruathur
                          Chun Zhu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-00.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2018-06-25

Abstract:
   This document defines the PCEP extension for CCDR application in
   Native IP network. The scenario and architecture of CCDR in native
   IP is described in [draft-ietf-teas-native-ip-scenarios] and [draft-
   ietf-teas-pce-native-ip]. This draft describes the key information
   that is transferred between PCE and PCC to accomplish the end2end
   traffic assurance in Native IP network under central control mode.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : PCEP Extension for Native IP Network
        Authors         : Aijun Wang
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                          Sudhir Cheruathur
                          Chun Zhu
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt
	Pages           : 32
	Date            : 2018-06-29

Abstract:
   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to
   compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC
   to request a path subject to certain constraints and optimization
   criteria in SR networks.



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This new version addresses the feedback received during working group last =
call.  My apologies for the long delay.
Many thanks to those who took the time to review and comment on this.  The =
result is that the draft has been substantially tightened and many ambiguit=
ies resolved.
I will be replying to the individual commenters today.

Best regards
Jon

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt
	Pages           : 32
	Date            : 2018-06-29

Abstract:
   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to
   compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC
   to request a path subject to certain constraints and optimization
   criteria in SR networks.



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Hi Adrian

Sorry for the delay.  Thanks again for the carefully considered feedback.  =
I've trimmed out points below where I agreed and no comment was necessary. =
 Please find answers and clarifications below.

---

Section 3

   o  An ordered set of IP address(es) representing network nodes/links:
      In this case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
      corresponding MPLS labels by consulting its Traffic Engineering
      Database (TED).

But I am surprised that this work is offloaded to the PCC since the PCE has=
 all the information to do this task. Why did the WG want to add this optio=
n?

And then...

   o  An ordered set of SID(s)

s/SID(s)/SIDs/

This list of SIDs would need to be converted to labels by the PCC by applyi=
ng the SRGB offsets. Again, why make the PCC do this?

And finally...

   o  An ordered set of both MPLS label(s) and IP address(es): In this
      case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
      corresponding SID(s) by consulting its TED.

This mixture of the previous two cases seems to compound the level of compl=
exity. Can't the PCE just know it is making an SR path and supply a list of=
 MPLS labels corresponding to the SIDs?

[Jon] Having consulted the authors, the reason is that different PCE implem=
entations have different approaches, which can all be accommodated fairly s=
traightforwardly in the draft's format. Having said that, it seems harsh to=
 force the PCC into having to provide an NAI-resolution service for the PCE=
.  Therefore, I have added a capability flag so that the PCC can indicate t=
hat it cannot / will not do NAI resolution. [/Jon]

---
                                                =20
5.1.2 ----> 6

   If a PCEP speaker receives a PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV with a
   PST list containing PST=3D1, but the SR-PCE-CAPABILITY sub-TLV is
   absent, then the PCEP speaker MUST send a PCErr message with Error-
   Type 10 (Reception of an invalid object) and Error-Value TBD1 (to be
   assigned by IANA) (Missing PCE-SR-CAPABILITY sub-TLV) and MUST then
   close the PCEP session.

Suppose an implementation receives an Open with PST=3D1 but doesn't underst=
and (or doesn't support) that value. Is it still required to perform this c=
heck? Hopefully not.

[Jon] Nope.  Have changed to

   If a PCEP speaker receives a PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV with a
   PST list containing PST=3D1, and supports that path setup type, then it
   checks for the presence of the SR-PCE-CAPABILITY sub-TLV.  If that sub-T=
LV is
   absent, then the PCEP speaker MUST send a PCErr message with Error-
   Type 10 (Reception of an invalid object) and Error-Value TBD1 (to be
   assigned by IANA) (Missing PCE-SR-CAPABILITY sub-TLV) and MUST then
   close the PCEP session.
[/Jon]

---

5.3.1 (under Length) has

      As mentioned earlier, an SR-ERO
      subobject MUST have at least SID or NAI.

This is good and does tie in with what is written in earlier sections.

However, 5.3.1 starts with

   An SR-ERO subobject consists of a 32-bit header followed by the SID
   and the NAI associated with the SID.  The SID is a 32-bit number.
   The size of the NAI depends on its respective type, as described in
   the following sections.

That makes it sound like they are both mandatory, and the figure doesn't he=
lp.

A little rewording would go a long way, and you could add "(optional)"=20
to the figure.

[Jon] I have modified the preamble to the following, and have added the wor=
d "optional" to the diagram.

   An SR-ERO subobject consists of a 32-bit header followed by the SID
   and/or the NAI associated with the SID.  The SID is a 32-bit number.
   The size of the NAI depends on its respective type, as described in
   the following sections.  At least one of the SID and the NAI MUST be
   included in the SR-ERO subobject, and both MAY be included.
[/Jon]

---

5.3.1

   SID Type (ST)  indicates the type of information associated with the
      SID contained in the object body.  When ST value is 0, SID MUST
      NOT be null and NAI MUST be null. =20

Does "null" mean "all zeros" or "absent"?

See also the definition of the S and F flags.

[Jon] It means "absent" (see definition of Length field).  But this is not =
particularly clear, so I have changed all instances of "null" to "absent". =
[/Jon]

---

5.3.1

      Other ST values are described
      later in this document.

It would be friendly to provide a list somewhere.
Do you need a registry?

[Jon] I have added a list and created a registry. [/Jon]

---

5.3.1

   Flags  is used to carry any additional information pertaining to SID.

You need to say how to set the unused bits.
Do you need a registry?

[Jon] I have created a registry. [/Jon]

---

5.3.3

   If a PCC receives a stack of SR-ERO subobjects, and the number of
   stack exceeds the maximum number of SIDs that the PCC can impose on
   the packet, it MAY send a PCErr message with Error-Type =3D 10
   ("Reception of an invalid object") and Error-Value =3D 3 ("Unsupported
   number of Segment ERO subobjects").

And if it doesn't send the PCErr, what should it do?

[Jon] I think this has to be a MUST, not a MAY. [/Jon]

---

5.3.3

   When a PCEP speaker detects that all subobjects of ERO are not
   identical, and if it does not handle such ERO, it MUST send a PCErr
   message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid object") and
   Error-Value =3D 5 ("Non-identical ERO subobjects").

"Not identical" could have so many meanings here!
- Presumably you don't mean that all SIDs have the same value
- You might be referring to all flags
- You might be referring to just the M and C flags
- You might mean that the ERO must contain all SR-ERO subobjects or
  no SR-ERO subobjects

Please clarify and possibly rename the error value.

[Jon] It means the last of those. Renamed the error to "ERO mixes SR-ERO su=
bobjects with other subobject types".=20
It also means you can't mix labels, SID index values and pure NAI.  I've ad=
ded that check too.[/Jon]

(See also 5.4.1).

[Jon] "RRO mixes SR-RRO subobjects with other subobject types" [/Jon]

---

5.3.3

   When a PCEP speaker receives an SR-ERO subobject in which ST is 0,
   SID MUST be present and NAI MUST NOT be present(i.e., S-flag MUST be
   0, F-flag MUST be 1, and the Length MUST be 8).  Otherwise, it MUST
   consider the entire ERO object invalid and send a PCErr message with
   Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid object") and Error-Value =3D
   11 ("Malformed object").  The PCEP speaker MAY include the malformed
   SR-ERO object in the PCErr message as well.

This text is good.
But it makes me think: what about the ST values 1 through 5 if the NAI is a=
bsent?

[Jon] I've generally tightened this area up and have hopefully covered all =
invalid cases! [/Jon]


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> Dear PCE WG,
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Hi Dhruv

My apologies for the delay.  Please find my replies and comments below.

Cheers
Jon

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Hi,=20

   I had reviewed and given comments on the I-D in the past, which the
   authors had addressed. I found these additional nits/suggestions.
   Apologies for being late by a day. =20

   Suggestions
   -----------

   Section 1

   (1) Though it is true that a child PCE act as a PCC towards the
   parent PCE, I feel it is not wise to say the opposite, that is a PCC
   is acting as a PCE in this context. I see no advantage to bring up the
   H-PCE in this context. I suggest we remove it.=20

      A PCE, or a PCC operating as a PCE (in hierarchical PCE
      environment), computes paths for MPLS Traffic Engineering LSPs
      (MPLS-TE LSPs) based on various constraints and optimization
      criteria.

[Jon] OK with me - I'll trim it. [/Jon]

   (2) Since this document is related to MPLS data plane only, it would
   be nice to include a pointer to the SRv6 work in PCEP for the benefit
   of the readers.

[Jon] Changed introduction text as follows and added normative references.

The SR architecture can be implemented using either an MPLS forwarding plan=
e [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls] or an IPv6 forwarding plane [I-D.i=
etf-6man-segment-routing-header].  The MPLS forwarding plane can be applied=
 to SR without any change, in which case an SR path corresponds to an MPLS =
Label Switching Path (LSP). This document is relevant to the MPLS forwardin=
g plane only.

[/Jon]

   (3) Regarding first mention of PST
   OLD:
      This specification relies on the procedures specified in [I-
      D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type].
   NEW:
      This specification relies on the procedures specified in [I-
      D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type] for the path setup type for SR.

[Jon] I changed it to:

      This specification relies on the procedures specified in [I-
      D.ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type] to exchange the segment routing
      capability and to specify that the path setup type of an LSP
      is segment routing..
[/Jon]

   Section 3

   (4) Regarding this text -=20

      SR-TE LSPs
      computed by a PCE can be represented in one of the following forms:

      o  An ordered set of IP address(es) representing network nodes/links:
         In this case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
         corresponding MPLS labels by consulting its Traffic Engineering
         Database (TED).

      o  An ordered set of SID(s).

      o  An ordered set of both MPLS label(s) and IP address(es): In this
         case, the PCC needs to convert the IP address(es) into the
         corresponding SID(s) by consulting its TED.

   Each SR-ERO object can include both SID and NAI (IP address); this
   case is different from the case 3 above, I suggest if some text can
   be added to make things clearer.=20

[Jon] Changed bullet 2 to:

An ordered set of SIDs, with or without the corresponding IP addresses.

[/Jon]

   Section 5.1.1

   (5) Why SHOULD in this text?

      A PCEP speaker SHOULD indicate its support of the function described
      in this document by sending a PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY TLV in the
      OPEN object with this new PST included in the PST list.

[Jon] For backwards compatibility with shipping implementations that omit i=
t. [/Jon]

   Section 6

   (6) Regarding,=20

      A PCEP speaker that does not support the SR PCEP capability cannot
      recognize the SR-ERO or SR-RRO subobjects. As such, it MUST send a
      PCEP error with Error-Type =3D 4 (Not supported object) and Error-Val=
ue
      =3D 2 (Not supported object Type) as per [RFC5440].

   RFC 5440 did not state the behavior for unknown sub-object. My
   suggestion would be -=20

      A PCEP speaker that does not support the SR PCEP capability and
      thus cannot recognize the SR-ERO or SR-RRO subobjects, it will
      respond according to the rules for a malformed object as per
      [RFC5440].

[Jon] OK [/Jon]

   Section 7

   (7) Suggest to make Manageability Consideration section as per RFC
   6123

[Jon] Done [/Jon]

   (8) PCEP-Yang should be mentioned in section 7.2

[Jon] Done [/Jon]

   Section 8
=20
   (9) Suggest we expand the security consideration section a bit based
   on recent DISCUSSes.

[Jon] Have tweaked it a bit but I think (nay, hope) what we have is OK as i=
t passed for the LSP setup type draft. [/Jon]

   Nits
   ----

   Section 5.3.3

   (2)=20
   OLD:
      A PCEP speaker that does not recognize the SR-ERO subobject in PCRep,
      PCInitiate, PCUpd or PCRpt messages MUST reject the entire PCEP
      message and MUST send a PCErr message with Error-Type=3D3 ("Unknown
      Object") and Error-Value=3D2 ("Unrecognized object Type") or Error-
      Type=3D4 ("Not supported object") and Error-Value=3D2 ("Not supported
      object Type"), defined in [RFC5440].
   NEW:
      A PCEP speaker that does not recognize or support the SR-ERO
      subobject in PCRep, PCInitiate, PCUpd or PCRpt messages MUST
      reject the entire PCEP message and MUST send a PCErr message with
      Error-Type=3D3 ("Unknown Object") and Error-Value=3D2 ("Unrecognized
      object Type") or Error- Type=3D4 ("Not supported object") and Error-
      Value=3D2 ("Not supported object Type"), defined in [RFC5440].

[Jon] Above you point out that RFC5440 does not deal with unrecognised subo=
bjects. I have changed the text along the lines you suggested above. [Jon]

   Thanks!=20
   Dhruv


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Hi Jon,
There is one issue which I would like to discuss and it came up during the =
EANTC multi-vendor interop in March 2018.

The rule for handling MSD in Section 5.5 seems to be overly restrictive. Th=
e MSD value advertised in the Open message is useful as an upper bound for =
both pce-initiated LSP and pcc-initiated LSP. However, PCC may want to set =
a MSD value for a specific pcc-initiated LSP which is lower than that in th=
e Open Object. The rules in Section 5.5 do not allow that as the presence o=
f the MSD Metric object in the path request message is errored if a non-zer=
o MSD was included in the Open message. If on the other hand you set the MS=
D in the Open message to zero, PCE will not discover the MSD to enforce for=
 pce-initiated LSP.

What I would like to propose is to relax the rule such that a path request =
is only errored when the MSD Metric value is higher than that in the Open m=
essage. That way we can achieve the desired behavior for both pce-initiated=
 and pcc-initiated LSP.

Here is the relevant paragraph in Section 5.5:
"
   If a PCEP session is established with a non-zero MSD value, then the
   PCC MUST NOT send an MSD METRIC object.  If the PCE receives a path
   computation request with an MSD METRIC object on a session with a
   non-zero MSD value then it MUST consider the request invalid and send
   a PCErr with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid object") and
   Error-Value 9 ("Default MSD is specified for the PCEP session").
"

Mustapha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 1:22 PM
To: pce@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt

This new version addresses the feedback received during working group last =
call.  My apologies for the long delay.
Many thanks to those who took the time to review and comment on this.  The =
result is that the draft has been substantially tightened and many ambiguit=
ies resolved.
I will be replying to the individual commenters today.

Best regards
Jon

-----Original Message-----
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rg
Sent: 29 June 2018 18:20
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: pce@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt
	Pages           : 32
	Date            : 2018-06-29

Abstract:
   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to
   compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC
   to request a path subject to certain constraints and optimization
   criteria in SR networks.



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