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Julien Meuric has requested publication of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions-12 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the PCE working group.

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Hi all

This message begins a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p=
2mp-07.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/

Please read the document and reply to the PCE mailing list, indicating whet=
her you believe this document is ready to be published or not (including an=
y comments on why not).  The last call will end on Monday 15 October.

Best regards

Jon and Julien


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This message begins a 2-week WG=
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g/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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he last call will end on Monday 15 October.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></span=
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Yes I support as an author

Thanks,
Udayasree

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick=
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> Hi all
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> This message begins a 2-week WG last call for
> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07.
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes I support as an author<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div=
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Jonathan Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.Hardwick=3D<=
a href=3D"mailto:40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ie=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon and Julien<u></u><u></u></s=
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Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp,



Could you please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you a=
re aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp and, i=
f so, if it has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs=
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s to this draft".



A reply is required from each of you before publication can proceed.



Thanks,



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Hi,
I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

Thanks,
Udayasree

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> Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp,
>
>
>
> Could you please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you
> are aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp and,
> if so, if it has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See
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> any IPR that applies, please reply saying "I am not aware of any IPR that
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div>I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this dra=
ft=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Udayasree</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 2, 2018=
 at 4:42 AM Jonathan Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.Hardwick=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40m=
etaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote=
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<p class=3D"m_4646848504049663438MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear au=
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ou please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you are awar=
e of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp and, if so, i=
f it has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules?
 (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details.) If you are not awar=
e of any IPR that applies, please reply saying &quot;I am not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft&quot;.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4646848504049663438MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=
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Hi Jon,

Thanks for your reply and apologies for a bit of delay (was on a business t=
rip). See replies inline, where required. I am also include the file with m=
inor edits for you to incorporate (see diff<https://github.com/dhruvdhody-h=
uawei/ietf/commit/6ea3564dd6d81b4bacfefbc7955a0e417d8af6c5?diff=3Dsplit>).

I will prepare the shepherd report now!

Thanks!
Dhruv


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Subject: RE: Shepherd review of draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12

Hi Dhruv

Many thanks again for your review and for your patience as I worked through=
 the points you've raised.  Please find my replies below, and the current W=
IP attached.  I'll resubmit once we've converged on the open issues below.

Kind regards
Jon


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Subject: Shepherd review of draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12

Hi,

I am assigned the shepherded for this document. I have previously given my =
input and liked the direction of the update with the -12 version, but also =
found some new issues.

Disclaimer - I discussed some of the points with the authors F2F during the=
 IETF meeting as well.

Major:
*******

(1) Though I appreciated the details in the new section 6.2.2. I feel the r=
ight place for this should be in 'draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls' b=
ecause the source of the SID stack could be PCEP, BGP or Yang. The text rel=
ated to the interpretation of the SID stack rightly belong in that draft an=
d in this I-D should just refer it (and specify the PCEP specific error han=
dling and procedures only).  I hope the chairs and AD of the WG could concl=
ude on that. We could initiate a separate thread to discuss this point with=
 spring chairs/AD.

[Jon] As discussed, we can back out these details.  I think it is sufficien=
t to refer the reader to section 4 of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-pol=
icy.  I replaced 6.2.2 with the following, briefer text.

NEW
6.2.2.  Interpreting the SR-ERO
   The SR-ERO contains a sequence of subobjects.  According to
   [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy], each SR-ERO subobject in
   the sequence identifies a segment that the traffic will be directed
   to, in the order given.  That is, the first subobject identifies the
   first segment the traffic will be directed to, the second SR-ERO
   subobject represents the second segment, and so on.

   The PCC interprets the SR-ERO by converting it to an MPLS label stack
   plus a next hop.  The PCC sends packets along the segment routed path
   by prepending the MPLS label stack onto the packets and sending the
   resulting, modified packet to the next hop.

   The PCC uses a different procedure to do this conversion, depending
   on the information that the PCE has provided in the subobjects.

   o  If the subobjects contain SID index values, then the PCC converts
      them into the corresponding MPLS labels by following the procedure
      defined in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls].

   o  If the subobjects contain NAI only, then the PCC first converts
      each NAI into a SID index value by looking it up in its local
      database, and then proceeds as above.

   o  If the subobjects contain MPLS labels, then the PCC looks up the
      offset of the first subobject's label in its SRGB or SRLB.
      This gives the first SID.  The PCC pushes the labels in any
      remaining subobjects onto the packet (with the final subobject
      specifying the bottom-of-stack label) and then directs the packet
      to the segment identified by the first SID.
END NEW
[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is good.

(2) The change of the field ST (SID type) to NT (NAI type) was done in the =
last update. This change was done in the -12 version with the expectation t=
hat this is just a name change and would have no other impact. But since NA=
I is optional and might not be included, and in that case one would not be =
able to interpret what the SID represents when NAI is not provided. Though,=
 it might be possible to find that information via searching the local data=
base, there is no apparent benefit in making this change and limiting the k=
nowledge of the SID type only when NAI is included.

Changes would be needed in various places including Section 6.2.1.

[Jon] Dhruv, I've thought about this some more since we discussed it face t=
o face, and I am not sure that this field ever did specify the type of the =
SID (despite its original name).  For instance, there are three values repr=
esenting an adjacency: if the SID is provided and the NAI is not provided, =
which value do I use?  But there is no value defined for a (general) prefix=
 SID or for a binding SID.  This field defines the format of the NAI, if pr=
esent.  If the NAI is absent then the information this field gives about th=
e SID is, at best, open to interpretation.  This was the reason for renamin=
g the field - to make it clear what an implementation can actually deduce f=
rom it.
[[Dhruv Dhody]] I can live with this. One can always find the type of SID b=
y searching in local database.

(3) There is no mention of the SR policy in the draft. This is a source of =
confusion, so a reference and relationship between them should be added in =
the Introduction.

[Jon] I have added the following text to the introduction:

NEW
   This specification provides a mechanism for a network controller
   (acting as a PCE) to instantiate candidate paths for an SR Policy
   onto a head-end node (acting as a PCC) using PCEP.  For more
   information on the SR Policiy Architecture, see
   [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy].
END NEW
[[Dhruv Dhody]] This works, thanks!

(4) I think we should enhance the security consideration section 9 a little=
 bit more. Since a label stack can be pushed directly for the PCE, this wou=
ld have a bigger security impact then a path that gets further signaled by =
RSVP-TE and verified in control plane. We should talk about MSD information=
 as well.

[Jon] I've added the following paragraph to cover your point about RSVP-TE.=
  But what do you think we should say about MSD?

NEW
   Note that this specification enables a network controller to
   instantiate a path in the network without the use of a hop-by-hop
   signaling protocol (such as RSVP-TE).  This creates an additional
   vulnerability if the security mechanisms of [RFC5440] and [RFC8281]
   are not used, because an attacker could create a path which is not
   subjected to the further verification checks that would be performed
   by the signaling protocol.
END NEW
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Thanks, regarding MSD something like -

The MSD (in OPEN message) discloses capabilities of the PCC (how many SIDs =
it
supports), which could provide an indication of the abilities of the PCC.  =
This
 information could be used to gain intelligence about devices in the networ=
k.


Minor:
*******

(1) I am not comfortable with the use of term LSDB, you would note no other=
 SR documents uses it either.  SR architecture also allow future innovation=
 in control plane especially in the centralized mode. May be we should use =
the term SR-DB introduced by the policy draft? Or a generic term such as lo=
cal database?

[Jon] Changed to SR-DB.

(2) In section 3, it describes the 3 representations for SR-ERO, I have fol=
lowing suggestion -
OLD:
   o  An ordered set of IP addresses representing network nodes/links:
      In this case, the PCC needs to convert the IP addresses into the
      corresponding MPLS labels by consulting its Link State Database
      (LSDB).

   o  An ordered set of SIDs, with or without the corresponding IP
      addresses.

   o  An ordered set of MPLS labels and IP addresses: In this case, the
      PCC needs to convert the IP addresses into the corresponding SIDs
      by consulting its LSDB.
NEW:
   o  An ordered set of IP addresses representing network nodes/links.
      In this case, the PCC needs to convert the IP addresses into the
      corresponding MPLS labels by consulting its Link State Database
      (LSDB).

   o  An ordered set of SID index values, with or without the corresponding=
 IP
      addresses. The PCC needs to convert the index into the corresponding
      MPLS label stack as per [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls].

   o  An ordered set of MPLS labels, with or without corresponding IP
      address. The top label in the label stack received from the PCE is
      from the point of view of the ingress PCC and it must follow the
      procedures as described in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls]
      while pushing the label stack.

[Jon] Now that I have rewritten 6.2.2, I think we can simplify the above as=
 follows.

NEWER
   o  An ordered set of IP addresses representing network nodes/links.
   o  An ordered set of SID index values, with or without the corresponding=
 IP
      addresses.
   o  An ordered set of MPLS labels, with or without corresponding IP
      address.
   The PCC converts these into an MPLS label stack and next hop, as describ=
ed in section 6.2.2.
END NEWER
[[Dhruv Dhody]] In the WIP you sent you have - "An ordered set of MPLS labe=
ls and IP addresses". Let's update it to what you have above!

The idea behind this is to specify that PCE should prepare the label stack =
with the top label from the point of view of Ingress and label stack might =
change. The change could be an outgoing label change as per the SRGB of nei=
ghbor towards which the packet is sent; or it could be an adjacency label p=
op identifying the out-interface.
- In section 6.2.1, we should remove this condition requiring NAI MUST be p=
resent for the first SR-ERO sub-object and corresponding error-code.
[Jon] Agreed.

- In Section 6.2.2.1, we should update the procedure and the next-hop is no=
t identified from the NAI
[Jon] Done.

Regarding the text in section 6.2.2, once the agreement is met to move the =
text to the SR-MPLS document, the text needs to be modified accordingly fro=
m the point of view of a generic MPLS Control Plane Client (MCC). And we sh=
ould simply refer to it saying PCC is one such client.
[Jon] I think it's already covered in the SR-policy draft.  I don't think i=
t's needed in the base SR-MPLS draft.
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Ok.

Note that 'only NAI' in SR-ERO would be a unique feature for PCEP and thus =
section 6.2.2.3 would still be needed.
[Jon] I think that's handled by my new 6.2.2 text, above.


(2) In section 5.3.1, it says -
    An SR-ERO subobject consists of a 32-bit header followed by the SID
   and/or the NAI associated with the SID.

      0                   1                   2                   3
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |L|   Type=3D36   |     Length    |  NT   |     Flags     |F|S|C|M|
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                         SID (optional)                        |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     //                   NAI (variable, optional)                  //
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

I think it is wrong to consider the first 32-bit as a header as per RFC 320=
9 specification.

    0                   1
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-------------//----------------+
   |L|    Type     |     Length    | (Subobject contents)          |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-------------//----------------+

[Jon] Agreed, have reworded.

(3) Section 6.1, the N flag indicates the capability to get SID from NAI, s=
o it should be applicable when only NAI is sent.
OLD:
   If a PCC sets the N flag to 1, then the PCE MAY send NAI to the PCC
   within the SR-ERO subobject (see Section 6.2).  Otherwise, the PCE
   MUST NOT send NAI to the PCC.
NEW:
   If a PCC sets the N flag to 1, then the PCE MAY send NAI only to the PCC
   within the SR-ERO subobject (see Section 6.2).  Otherwise, the PCE
   MUST NOT send NAI only to the PCC.

[Jon] Agreed. Changed your wording slightly:
NEWER
   If a PCC sets the N flag to 1, then the PCE MAY send an SR-ERO
   subobject containing NAI and no SID (see Section 6.2).  Otherwise,
   the PCE MUST NOT send an SR-ERO subobject containing NAI and no SID.
END NEWER
[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is good.

(4) Section 6.2.1, it says -
   If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject in which the S bit is set to
   zero and the M bit is set to 1 (that is, it represents an MPLS label
   value), its value (20 most significant bits) MUST be larger than 15,
   unless it is a special purpose label, such as an Entropy Label
   Indicator (ELI).

Since all labels < 15 are special-purpose label, the above sentence isn't c=
orrect. Do you mean ELI is the only special purpose label that is allowed? =
Or we should simply say the label should be valid from PCC's point of view =
without worrying about special-purpose label.

[Jon] I'm not sure where that text came from - it effectively says "labels =
must not be special-purpose labels, unless they are special purpose labels"=
! It makes no sense to accept an Implicit-NULL, but I can imagine there mig=
ht be use cases for most, if not all, of the other special purpose labels. =
 The PCC should take the ultimate decision.  I have changed the text as fol=
lows.

NEW
   If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject in which the S bit is set to
   zero and the M bit is set to 1, then the subobject contains an MPLS
   label.  The PCC MAY choose not to accept a label provided by the PCE,
   based on it local policy.  The PCC MUST NOT accept MPLS label value 3
   (Implicit NULL), but it MAY accept other special purpose MPLS label
   values.  If the PCC decides not to accept an MPLS label value, it
   MUST send a PCErr message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an
   invalid object") and Error Value =3D 2 ("Bad label value").
END NEW
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Agreed.

Suggestions:
**************

(1) In section 3, it says -
   An PCE can update an LSP that is initially established via RSVP-TE
   signaling to use an SR-TE path, by sending a PCUpd to the PCC that
   delegated the LSP to it ([RFC8231]).  Similarly, an LSP initially
   created with an SR-TE path can be updated to use RSVP-TE signaling,
   if necessary.  This capability is useful when a network is migrated
   from RSVP-TE to SR-TE technology.

We should also add text for LSPs that are not delegated and in control with=
 PCC, where PCC will trigger the migration and this should be reported to t=
he PCE via the PCRpt message.

[Jon] Not sure I understand... Are you saying that the PCC delegates the LS=
P and, at the same time, requests the PCC to migrate the LSP?  What should =
the PCC set on the PCRpt to request a migration?  I'm not sure if it makes =
sense, I would expect migrations to be driven from the controller downwards=
, not individually requested by the head-ends.
[[Dhruv Dhody]] Consider a LSP that was not delegated and control is at the=
 PCC.  Via configuration the PCC is asked to migrate this to SR, the PCC co=
uld via PCReq/PCRep gets a new path based on SR and installs it in the forw=
arding and migrate to it. We would want a make-before-break like operations=
 where via PCRpt message(s) the new LSP (with PST=3DSR) is reported and the=
 old LSP is reported to be deleted.
Thus IMHO the migration could be triggered at the PCC via configuration too=
. In section 8.2 we state that this is out of scope, but in section 3 it wa=
s mentioned only in scope of PCUpd message, thus making me wonder if we sho=
uld also include the PCC triggered migration of LSP.

(2) In section 5.1, can we describe the value part of the sub-TLV in the or=
der, currently we have MSD, Reserved and then flags.
Also, we should state if future extension can define new flags (and create =
a corresponding IANA registry) and unassigned bits in the flags MUST be set=
 to 0.
Since MSD value 0 as a special purpose, we should mention that and provide =
reference to section 5.5

[Jon] OK

(3) In section 5.3.1 (M bit in Flag field), we should reference SR I-D whil=
e describing the interpretation of index.
OLD:
      *  M: If this bit is set to 1, the SID value represents an MPLS
         label stack entry as specified in [RFC3032].  Otherwise, the
         SID value is an administratively configured value which acts as
         an index into an MPLS label space.
NEW:
      *  M: If this bit is set to 1, the SID value represents an MPLS
         label stack entry as specified in [RFC3032].  Otherwise, the
         SID value is an administratively configured value which represents
         an index into an MPLS label space (either SRGB or SRLB) as per
         [RFC8402].

[Jon] OK

(4) In section 5.3.1, can we add a little more description for SID.
OLD:
SID  is the Segment Identifier.
NEW:
SID is the Segment Identifier. According to the M bit, it contains
either:

  * A 4 octet index defining the offset into an MPLS label space as
    per [RFC8402].
  * A 4 octet MPLS label stack entry where the 20 rightmost bits are
    used for encoding the label value as per [RFC3032].

[Jon] OK

(5) In section 5.3.2, It would be nice to explicitly mention the length of =
the NAI field in each case.
[Jon] OK

(6) Section 5.4, we should add little bit more meat to this section to clea=
rly state what does RRO represents in case of SR-TE LSP. Currently we simpl=
y say that -

   A PCC can record an SR-TE LSP and report the LSP to a PCE via the
   RRO.

PCC reports the state of LSP to the PCE. RRO represents the actual path in =
the PCRpt message, thus the RRO for SR-TE represents the SID list applied b=
y the PCC. This could be represented as MPLS label stack or as the list of =
indexes. In some cases, the ERO (intended path) and RRO (actual path) might=
 be different based on local policy applied by the PCC. We should state tha=
t procedures as per [RFC8231] with no change.

[Jon] OK, I have updated the text as follows.

NEW
   A PCC reports an SR-TE LSP to a PCE by sending a PCRpt message, per
   [RFC8231].  The RRO on this message represents the SID list that was
   applied by the PCC, that is, the actual path taken by the LSP.  The
   procedures of [RFC8231] with respect to the RRO apply equally to this
   specification without change.
END NEW

I have also made the following change to bring the RRO in line with the agr=
eement for the ERO, above.  *Do you agree with this change?*

OLD
   A PCC MUST assume that the SR-RRO subobjects are organized such that
   the first subobject relative to the beginning of the RRO contains the
   information about the topmost label, and the last subobject contains
   information about the bottommost label of the SR-TE LSP.
NEW
   A PCC MUST order the SR-RRO subobjects such that the first subobject
   relative to the beginning of the RRO identifies the first segment
   visited by the SR-TE LSP, and the last subobject identifies the final
   segment of the SR-TE LSP, that is, its endpoint.
END
[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is fine!

Another query NAI only SR-RRO is of no use. I think we should not allow tha=
t!!

[Jon] I think it could make sense e.g. as a list of router IDs that the LSP=
 visits. Personally, I think NAI-only overcomplicates the protocol in both =
ERO and RRO, but given that we allow it in ERO, I don't see a reason to ban=
 it from RRO.
[[Dhruv Dhody]] My point of view was that when NAI-only ERO is sent by the =
PCE, the PCC needs to convert that into a viable SID-list based on its data=
base. It would make sense for the PCC to report this to the PCE in form of =
SR-RRO. Thus it must contain the SID-index or label. Just returning the NAI=
-only to the PCE may not be that useful. The PCC always needs SID to instal=
l in the data plane and it is useful to report that to the PCE, thus I stil=
l feel we should not allow NAI-only in SR-RRO!
But I can live with it if you do not wish to make this change.

(7) Section 5.5, is METRIC object without bound allowed? I.e. a path comput=
ation request to optimize MSD valid?

[Jon] Agree this would make sense if the PCC does not impose an MSD.  Chang=
ed the text to:

NEW
   A PCC MAY request that PCE optimizes an individual path computation
   request to minimize the SID depth of the computed path by using the
   METRIC object defined in [RFC5440].  This document defines a new type
   for the METRIC object to be used for this purpose, as follows:

   o  T =3D 11: Maximum SID Depth of the requested path.

   If the PCC includes a METRIC object of this type on a path
   computation request, then the PCE MUST minimize the SID depth of the
   computed path.  If the B (bound) bit is set to to 1 in the METRIC
   object, then the PCE MUST NOT return a path whose SID depth exceeds
   the given metric-value.  If the PCC did not set the L bit in its SR-
   PCE-CAPABILITY TLV, then it MUST set the B bit to 1.  If the PCC set
   the L bit in its SR-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV, then it MAY set the B bit to
   zero, which indicates that the PCE should minimize the SID depth
   without imposing an absolute maximum value.
END NEW
[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is good. But I am not sure about the relationship betw=
een L bit (in TLV) and B bit (in METRIC). Though a PCC did not impose any l=
imit on MSD, it could still ask for a smaller SID stack (optimization)?


(8) Section 6.2.1, it says -

   If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject in which the S bit is set to
   zero and the M bit is set to zero (that is, it represents an index
   value), then the SID MUST be a node-SID, an adjacency-SID or a
   binding-SID.  If the SID is not one of these types, the PCC MUST send
   a PCErr message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid
   object") and Error Value =3D TBD10 ("Bad SID type in SR-ERO").  If the
   SID is an Adjacency-SID then the L flag MUST NOT be set.  If the L
   flag is set for an Adjacency-SID then the PCC MUST send a PCErr
   message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid object") and
   Error-Value =3D 11 ("Malformed object").

Shouldn't we just say that PCC should support the SID type and leave the do=
or open for any other SID type use for ex anycast SID or any other future S=
ID type?

[Jon] What I was really thinking here was that it would be invalid to have =
a prefix-SID in the list (unless it's a node SID).  I've reworded as follow=
s:

NEW
   If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject in which the S bit is set to
   zero and the M bit is set to zero, then the subobject contains a SID
   index value.  If the SID is a prefix-SID but not a node-SID, then the
   PCC MUST send a PCErr message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an
   invalid object") and Error Value =3D TBD9 ("Bad SID type in SR-ERO").
   If the SID is an Adjacency-SID then the L flag MUST NOT be set.  If
   the L flag is set for an Adjacency-SID then the PCC MUST send a PCErr
   message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid object") and
   Error-Value =3D 11 ("Malformed object").
END NEW
[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is better but I feel we should not include the prefix =
SID check. There are use-cases to include prefix SID as the bottom SID (Ref=
er SR policy draft)!

(8) Section 6.2.2.4, this error is not clear -

   o  If the PCC cannot find an SRGB in the LSDB, it MUST send a PCErr
      message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an invalid object")
      and Error-Value =3D TBD5 ("Could not find SRGB").

Does it mean that a particular node does not support SR or did not advertis=
e SRGB and thus PCC is unaware of the SRGB information of that node?

[Jon] If the PCE has provided the PCC with a list of SID index values, then=
 the PCC needs to use the SRGBs of the nodes on the path to convert the SID=
s into labels.  If the PCC cannot find a given node's SRGB in its local SR-=
DB (e.g. someone forgot to turn on SR on that node) then it sends this erro=
r.  Have updated text to:

NEW
   o  If the PCC needs to convert a SID into an MPLS label value but
      cannot find the corresponding router's SRGB in the SR-DB, it MUST
      send a PCErr message with Error-Type =3D 10 ("Reception of an
      invalid object") and Error-Value =3D TBD5 ("Could not find SRGB").
END NEW

Similar for SRLB.

Nits:
*****

(1) https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id=
/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt - all easy to fix with a new update!
(2) s/ PATH_SETUP_TYPE/PATH-SETUP-TYPE/
(3) s/PATH_SETUP_TYPE_CAPABILITY/PATH-SETUP-TYPE-CAPABILITY/
(4) We have used the term octet mostly except for 2 instances of bytes. Sug=
gest to use the same term.
(5) Section 8.1
OLD:
   o  When a PCC requests a path for an LSP, it can nominate a preferred
      path setup type by including it in the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV in the
      RP object of the PCInitiate message.
NEW:
   o  When a PCC requests a path for an LSP, it can nominate a preferred
      path setup type by including it in the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV in the
      RP object of the PCReq message.
(6) Section 8.3, for the first 2 bullets only L flag is mentioned. I think =
we should also include the N flag.

[Jon] OK to all the above.

(7) The heading for section 10.1 is PCEP objects where as its content is ab=
out SE-ERO and SR-RRO sub-objects in RSVP registry!

[Jon] Have changed the title to "PCEP ERO and RRO subobjects".

Thanks again!

Looking forward to resolving the above points and moving the document quick=
ly.

Regards,
Dhruv

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required. I am also include the file with minor
 edits for you to incorporate (see <a href=3D"https://github.com/dhruvdhody=
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diff</a>). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I will prepare the shepherd repo=
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<b>Sent:</b> 24 September 2018 22:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Dhruv Dhody &lt;dhruv.dhody@huawei.com&gt;; pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing.all@ietf.org=
; Dhruv Dhody &lt;dhruv.ietf@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Shepherd review of draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12 <o=
:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Hi Dhruv<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Many thanks again for your review and for your patience as I worked t=
hrough the points you&#8217;ve raised.&nbsp; Please find my replies below, =
and the current WIP attached.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll resubmit once
 we&#8217;ve converged on the open issues below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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.dhody@huawei.com">dhruv.dhody@huawei.com</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 August, 2018 12:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing.all@ietf.org">
draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing.all@ietf.org</a>; Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com">dhruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Shepherd review of draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12 <o:p><=
/o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Hi,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">I am assigned the shepherded for this document=
. I have previously given my input and liked the direction of the update wi=
th the -12 version, but also found some new issues.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Disclaimer - I discussed some of the points wi=
th the authors F2F during the IETF meeting as well.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Major:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">*******<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(1) Though I appreciated the details in the ne=
w section 6.2.2. I feel the right place for this should be in &#8216;draft-=
ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls&#8217; because the source
 of the SID stack could be PCEP, BGP or Yang. The text related to the inter=
pretation of the SID stack rightly belong in that draft and in this I-D sho=
uld just refer it (and specify the PCEP specific error handling and procedu=
res only). &nbsp;I hope the chairs and
 AD of the WG could conclude on that. We could initiate a separate thread t=
o discuss this point with spring chairs/AD.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] As discussed, we can back out these details.&n=
bsp; I think it is sufficient to refer the reader to section 4 of draft-iet=
f-spring-segment-routing-policy.&nbsp; I replaced 6.2.2 with the following,=
 briefer text.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">6.2.2.&nbsp; Interpreting the SR-ERO<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; The SR-ERO contains a sequence of subob=
jects.&nbsp; According to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy=
], each SR-ERO subobject in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; the sequence identifies a segment that =
the traffic will be directed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; to, in the order given.&nbsp; That is, =
the first subobject identifies the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; first segment the traffic will be direc=
ted to, the second SR-ERO<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; subobject represents the second segment=
, and so on.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; The PCC interprets the SR-ERO by conver=
ting it to an MPLS label stack<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; plus a next hop.&nbsp; The PCC sends pa=
ckets along the segment routed path<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; by prepending the MPLS label stack onto=
 the packets and sending the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; resulting, modified packet to the next =
hop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; The PCC uses a different procedure to d=
o this conversion, depending<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; on the information that the PCE has pro=
vided in the subobjects.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; If the subobjects contain SID i=
ndex values, then the PCC converts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; them into the corresp=
onding MPLS labels by following the procedure<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; defined in [I-D.ietf-=
spring-segment-routing-mpls].<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; If the subobjects contain NAI o=
nly, then the PCC first converts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; each NAI into a SID i=
ndex value by looking it up in its local<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; database, and then pr=
oceeds as above.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; If the subobjects contain MPLS =
labels, then the PCC looks up the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; offset of the first s=
ubobject&#8217;s label in its SRGB or SRLB.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This gives the first =
SID.&nbsp; The PCC pushes the labels in any<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; remaining subobjects =
onto the packet (with the final subobject<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; specifying the bottom=
-of-stack label) and then directs the packet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to the segment identi=
fied by the first SID.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is go=
od.
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(2) The change of the field ST (SID type) to N=
T (NAI type) was done in the last update. This change was done in the -12 v=
ersion with the expectation that this is just
 a name change and would have no other impact. But since NAI is optional an=
d might not be included, and in that case one would not be able to interpre=
t what the SID represents when NAI is not provided. Though, it might be pos=
sible to find that information via
 searching the local database, there is no apparent benefit in making this =
change and limiting the knowledge of the SID type only when NAI is included=
. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Changes would be needed in various places incl=
uding Section 6.2.1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Dhruv, I&#8217;ve thought about this some more=
 since we discussed it face to face, and I am not sure that this field ever=
 did specify the type of the SID (despite its original name).&nbsp; For ins=
tance, there are three values representing an
 adjacency: if the SID is provided and the NAI is not provided, which value=
 do I use?&nbsp; But there is no value defined for a (general) prefix SID o=
r for a binding SID.&nbsp; This field defines the format of the NAI, if pre=
sent.&nbsp; If the NAI is absent then the information
 this field gives about the SID is, at best, open to interpretation.&nbsp; =
This was the reason for renaming the field &#8211; to make it clear what an=
 implementation can actually deduce from it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] I can live=
 with this. One can always find the type of SID by searching in local datab=
ase.&nbsp;
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(3) There is no mention of the SR policy in th=
e draft. This is a source of confusion, so a reference and relationship bet=
ween them should be added in the Introduction.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] I have added the following text to the introdu=
ction:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; This specification provides a mechanism=
 for a network controller<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; (acting as a PCE) to instantiate candid=
ate paths for an SR Policy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; onto a head-end node (acting as a PCC) =
using PCEP.&nbsp; For more<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; information on the SR Policiy Architect=
ure, see<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy=
].<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] This works=
, thanks!
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(4) I think we should enhance the security con=
sideration section 9 a little bit more. Since a label stack can be pushed d=
irectly for the PCE, this would have a bigger
 security impact then a path that gets further signaled by RSVP-TE and veri=
fied in control plane. We should talk about MSD information as well.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] I&#8217;ve added the following paragraph to co=
ver your point about RSVP-TE.&nbsp; But what do you think we should say abo=
ut MSD?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Note that this specification enables a =
network controller to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; instantiate a path in the network witho=
ut the use of a hop-by-hop<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; signaling protocol (such as RSVP-TE).&n=
bsp; This creates an additional<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; vulnerability if the security mechanism=
s of [RFC5440] and [RFC8281]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; are not used, because an attacker could=
 create a path which is not<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; subjected to the further verification c=
hecks that would be performed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; by the signaling protocol.<o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Thanks, re=
garding MSD something like &#8211;
<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></=
i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:5.25pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">The MSD (in OPE=
N message) discloses capabilities of the PCC (how many SIDs it<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:5.25pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">supports), whic=
h could provide an indication of the abilities of the PCC.&nbsp; This
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;information could be used to gain inte=
lligence about devices in the network.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Minor:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">*******<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(1) I am not comfortable with the use of term =
LSDB, you would note no other SR documents uses it either. &nbsp;SR archite=
cture also allow future innovation in control plane
 especially in the centralized mode. May be we should use the term SR-DB in=
troduced by the policy draft? Or a generic term such as local database?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Changed to SR-DB.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(2) In section 3, it describes the 3 represent=
ations for SR-ERO, I have following suggestion -
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">OLD:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;o&nbsp; An ordered set of IP addresses r=
epresenting network nodes/links:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In this case, the PCC needs=
 to convert the IP addresses into the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; corresponding MPLS labels b=
y consulting its Link State Database<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (LSDB).<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of SIDs, with or witho=
ut the corresponding IP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; addresses.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of MPLS labels and IP =
addresses: In this case, the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PCC needs to convert the IP=
 addresses into the corresponding SIDs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; by consulting its LSDB.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">NEW:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of IP addresses repres=
enting network nodes/links.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In this case, the PCC needs=
 to convert the IP addresses into the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; corresponding MPLS labels b=
y consulting its Link State Database<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (LSDB).<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of SID index values, w=
ith or without the corresponding IP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; addresses. The PCC needs to=
 convert the index into the corresponding<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MPLS label stack as per [I-=
D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls].
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of MPLS labels, with o=
r without corresponding IP
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;address. The top label=
 in the label stack received from the PCE is
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;from the point of view=
 of the ingress PCC and it must follow the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;procedures as describe=
d in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;while pushing the labe=
l stack.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Now that I have rewritten 6.2.2, I think we ca=
n simplify the above as follows.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEWER<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of IP addresses =
representing network nodes/links.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of SID index val=
ues, with or without the corresponding IP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; addresses. <o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; An ordered set of MPLS labels, =
with or without corresponding IP
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;address.<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; The PCC converts these into an MPLS lab=
el stack and next hop, as described in section 6.2.2.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEWER<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] In the WIP=
 you sent you have - &#8220;</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:8.5pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:#FFFF88">An
 ordered set of MPLS labels and IP </span><span class=3D"insert"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;backgr=
ound:#88FFFF">addresses&#8221;.
</span></span><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebu=
chet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Let&#8217;s update it to what you h=
ave above!
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">The idea behind this is to specify that PCE sh=
ould prepare the label stack with the top label from the point of view of I=
ngress and label stack might change. The change
 could be an outgoing label change as per the SRGB of neighbor towards whic=
h the packet is sent; or it could be an adjacency label pop identifying the=
 out-interface.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">- In section 6.2.1, we should remove this cond=
ition requiring NAI MUST be present for the first SR-ERO sub-object and cor=
responding error-code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Agreed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">- In Section 6.2.2.1, we should update the pro=
cedure and the next-hop is not identified from the NAI<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Done.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Regarding the text in section 6.2.2, once the =
agreement is met to move the text to the SR-MPLS document, the text needs t=
o be modified accordingly from the point of view
 of a generic MPLS Control Plane Client (MCC). And we should simply refer t=
o it saying PCC is one such client.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] I think it&#8217;s already covered in the SR-p=
olicy draft.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s needed in the base SR-MPL=
S draft.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Ok.
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Note that &#8216;only NAI&#8217; in SR-ERO wou=
ld be a unique feature for PCEP and thus section 6.2.2.3 would still be nee=
ded.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] I think that&#8217;s handled by my new 6.2.2 t=
ext, above.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(2) In section 5.3.1, it says &#8211;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;An SR-ERO subobject c=
onsists of a 32-bit header followed by the SID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; and/or the NAI associated with the SID.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3=
 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |L|&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D36&nbsp;&n=
bsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; NT&nbsp;&nb=
sp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flags&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |F|S|C|M|<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SID (optional)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; //&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; NAI (variable, optional)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; //<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">I think it is wrong to consider the first 32-b=
it as a header as per RFC 3209 specification.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-------------//----=
------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; |L|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | (Subobject conte=
nts)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-------------//----=
------------&#43;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Agreed, have reworded.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(3) Section 6.1, the N flag indicates the capa=
bility to get SID from NAI, so it should be applicable when only NAI is sen=
t.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">OLD:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; If a PCC sets the N flag to 1, then the PCE M=
AY send NAI to the PCC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; within the SR-ERO subobject (see Section 6.2)=
.&nbsp; Otherwise, the PCE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; MUST NOT send NAI to the PCC.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">NEW:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; If a PCC sets the N flag to 1, then the PCE M=
AY send NAI only to the PCC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; within the SR-ERO subobject (see Section 6.2)=
.&nbsp; Otherwise, the PCE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; MUST NOT send NAI only to the PCC.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Agreed. Changed your wording slightly:<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEWER<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; If a PCC sets the N flag to 1, then the=
 PCE MAY send an SR-ERO<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; subobject containing NAI and no SID (se=
e Section 6.2).&nbsp; Otherwise,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; the PCE MUST NOT send an SR-ERO subobje=
ct containing NAI and no SID.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEWER<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is go=
od.
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(4) Section 6.2.1, it says -
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject in=
 which the S bit is set to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; zero and the M bit is set to 1 (that is, it r=
epresents an MPLS label<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; value), its value (20 most significant bits) =
MUST be larger than 15,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; unless it is a special purpose label, such as=
 an Entropy Label<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; Indicator (ELI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Since all labels &lt; 15 are special-purpose l=
abel, the above sentence isn&#8217;t correct. Do you mean ELI is the only s=
pecial purpose label that is allowed? Or we should simply
 say the label should be valid from PCC&#8217;s point of view without worry=
ing about special-purpose label.
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] I&#8217;m not sure where that text came from -=
 it effectively says &#8220;labels must not be special-purpose labels, unle=
ss they are special purpose labels&#8221;! It makes no sense to accept an I=
mplicit-NULL, but I can imagine there might be use cases
 for most, if not all, of the other special purpose labels.&nbsp; The PCC s=
hould take the ultimate decision.&nbsp; I have changed the text as follows.=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject i=
n which the S bit is set to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; zero and the M bit is set to 1, then th=
e subobject contains an MPLS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; label.&nbsp; The PCC MAY choose not to =
accept a label provided by the PCE,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; based on it local policy.&nbsp; The PCC=
 MUST NOT accept MPLS label value 3<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; (Implicit NULL), but it MAY accept othe=
r special purpose MPLS label<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; values.&nbsp; If the PCC decides not to=
 accept an MPLS label value, it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; MUST send a PCErr message with Error-Ty=
pe =3D 10 (&quot;Reception of an<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; invalid object&quot;) and Error Value =
=3D 2 (&quot;Bad label value&quot;).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Agreed.
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Suggestions:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">**************<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(1) In section 3, it says -
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;An PCE can update an LSP that is initial=
ly established via RSVP-TE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; signaling to use an SR-TE path, by sending a =
PCUpd to the PCC that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; delegated the LSP to it ([RFC8231]).&nbsp; Si=
milarly, an LSP initially<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; created with an SR-TE path can be updated to =
use RSVP-TE signaling,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; if necessary.&nbsp; This capability is useful=
 when a network is migrated<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; from RSVP-TE to SR-TE technology.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">We should also add text for LSPs that are not =
delegated and in control with PCC, where PCC will trigger the migration and=
 this should be reported to the PCE via the PCRpt
 message. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Not sure I understand&#8230; Are you saying th=
at the PCC delegates the LSP and, at the same time, requests the PCC to mig=
rate the LSP?&nbsp; What should the PCC set on the PCRpt to request a migra=
tion?&nbsp; I&#8217;m not sure if it makes sense, I would
 expect migrations to be driven from the controller downwards, not individu=
ally requested by the head-ends.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] Consider a=
 LSP that was not delegated and control is at the PCC.&nbsp; Via configurat=
ion the PCC is asked to migrate this to SR, the PCC
 could via PCReq/PCRep gets a new path based on SR and installs it in the f=
orwarding and migrate to it. We would want a make-before-break like operati=
ons where via PCRpt message(s) the new LSP (with PST=3DSR) is reported and =
the old LSP is reported to be deleted.
<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thus IMHO the migration co=
uld be triggered at the PCC via configuration too. In section 8.2 we state =
that this is out of scope, but in section 3 it
 was mentioned only in scope of PCUpd message, thus making me wonder if we =
should also include the PCC triggered migration of LSP. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span>=
</i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(2) In section 5.1, can we describe the value =
part of the sub-TLV in the order, currently we have MSD, Reserved and then =
flags.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Also, we should state if future extension can =
define new flags (and create a corresponding IANA registry) and unassigned =
bits in the flags MUST be set to 0.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Since MSD value 0 as a special purpose, we sho=
uld mention that and provide reference to section 5.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] OK<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(3) In section 5.3.1 (M bit in Flag field), we=
 should reference SR I-D while describing the interpretation of index.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">OLD:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp; M: If this bit is s=
et to 1, the SID value represents an MPLS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; label sta=
ck entry as specified in [RFC3032].&nbsp; Otherwise, the<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SID value=
 is an administratively configured value which acts as<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; an index =
into an MPLS label space.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">NEW:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp; M: If this bit is s=
et to 1, the SID value represents an MPLS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; label sta=
ck entry as specified in [RFC3032].&nbsp; Otherwise, the<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SID value=
 is an administratively configured value which represents<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; an index =
into an MPLS label space (either SRGB or SRLB) as per<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC8402]=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] OK<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(4) In section 5.3.1, can we add a little more=
 description for SID.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">OLD:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">SID&nbsp; is the Segment Iden=
tifier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">NEW:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">SID is the Segment Identifier=
. According to the M bit, it contains<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp; * A 4 octet index defi=
ning the offset into an MPLS label space as<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; per [RFC84=
02].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp; * A 4 octet MPLS label=
 stack entry where the 20 rightmost bits are
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;used =
for encoding the label value as per [RFC3032].
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] OK<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(5) In section 5.3.2, It would be nice to expl=
icitly mention the length of the NAI field in each case.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] OK<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(6) Section 5.4, we should add little bit more=
 meat to this section to clearly state what does RRO represents in case of =
SR-TE LSP. Currently we simply say that &#8211;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; A PCC can record an SR-TE LSP and report the =
LSP to a PCE via the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; RRO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">PCC reports the state of LSP to the PCE. RRO r=
epresents the actual path in the PCRpt message, thus the RRO for SR-TE repr=
esents the SID list applied by the PCC. This could
 be represented as MPLS label stack or as the list of indexes. In some case=
s, the ERO (intended path) and RRO (actual path) might be different based o=
n local policy applied by the PCC. We should state that procedures as per [=
RFC8231] with no change.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] OK, I have updated the text as follows.<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; A PCC reports an SR-TE LSP to a PCE by =
sending a PCRpt message, per<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC8231].&nbsp; The RRO on this messag=
e represents the SID list that was<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; applied by the PCC, that is, the actual=
 path taken by the LSP.&nbsp; The<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; procedures of [RFC8231] with respect to=
 the RRO apply equally to this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; specification without change.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have also made the following change to bring the R=
RO in line with the agreement for the ERO, above.&nbsp; *<b>Do you agree wi=
th this change?</b>*<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">OLD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; A PCC MUST assume that the SR-RRO subob=
jects are organized such that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; the first subobject relative to the beg=
inning of the RRO contains the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; information about the topmost label, an=
d the last subobject contains<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; information about the bottommost label =
of the SR-TE LSP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; A PCC MUST order the SR-RRO subobjects =
such that the first subobject<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; relative to the beginning of the RRO id=
entifies the first segment<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; visited by the SR-TE LSP, and the last =
subobject identifies the final<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; segment of the SR-TE LSP, that is, its =
endpoint.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is fi=
ne!
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet =
MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Another query NAI only SR-RRO is of no use. I =
think we should not allow that!!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] I think it could make sense e.g. as a list of =
router IDs that the LSP visits. Personally, I think NAI-only overcomplicate=
s the protocol in both ERO and RRO, but given that we allow it in ERO, I do=
n&#8217;t see a reason to ban it from RRO.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] My point o=
f view was that when NAI-only ERO is sent by the PCE, the PCC needs to conv=
ert that into a viable SID-list based on its database.
 It would make sense for the PCC to report this to the PCE in form of SR-RR=
O. Thus it must contain the SID-index or label. Just returning the NAI-only=
 to the PCE may not be that useful. The PCC always needs SID to install in =
the data plane and it is useful
 to report that to the PCE, thus I still feel we should not allow NAI-only =
in SR-RRO!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But I can live with it if =
you do not wish to make this change.
<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(7) Section 5.5, is METRIC object without boun=
d allowed? I.e. a path computation request to optimize MSD valid?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] Agree this would make sense if the PCC does no=
t impose an MSD.&nbsp; Changed the text to:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; A PCC MAY request that PCE optimizes an=
 individual path computation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; request to minimize the SID depth of th=
e computed path by using the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; METRIC object defined in [RFC5440].&nbs=
p; This document defines a new type<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; for the METRIC object to be used for th=
is purpose, as follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; T =3D 11: Maximum SID Depth of =
the requested path.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; If the PCC includes a METRIC object of =
this type on a path<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; computation request, then the PCE MUST =
minimize the SID depth of the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; computed path.&nbsp; If the B (bound) b=
it is set to to 1 in the METRIC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; object, then the PCE MUST NOT return a =
path whose SID depth exceeds<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; the given metric-value.&nbsp; If the PC=
C did not set the L bit in its SR-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; PCE-CAPABILITY TLV, then it MUST set th=
e B bit to 1.&nbsp; If the PCC set<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; the L bit in its SR-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV,=
 then it MAY set the B bit to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; zero, which indicates that the PCE shou=
ld minimize the SID depth<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; without imposing an absolute maximum va=
lue.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is go=
od. But I am not sure about the relationship between L bit (in TLV) and B b=
it (in METRIC). Though a PCC did not impose any
 limit on MSD, it could still ask for a smaller SID stack (optimization)? <=
/span>
</i></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(8) Section 6.2.1, it says -
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject in whic=
h the S bit is set to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; zero and the M bit is set to zero (that is, i=
t represents an index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; value), then the SID MUST be a node-SID, an a=
djacency-SID or a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; binding-SID.&nbsp; If the SID is not one of t=
hese types, the PCC MUST send<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; a PCErr message with Error-Type =3D 10 (&quot=
;Reception of an invalid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; object&quot;) and Error Value =3D TBD10 (&quo=
t;Bad SID type in SR-ERO&quot;).&nbsp; If the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; SID is an Adjacency-SID then the L flag MUST =
NOT be set.&nbsp; If the L<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; flag is set for an Adjacency-SID then the PCC=
 MUST send a PCErr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; message with Error-Type =3D 10 (&quot;Recepti=
on of an invalid object&quot;) and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; Error-Value =3D 11 (&quot;Malformed object&qu=
ot;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Shouldn&#8217;t we just say that PCC should su=
pport the SID type and leave the door open for any other SID type use for e=
x anycast SID or any other future SID type?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] What I was really thinking here was that it wo=
uld be invalid to have a prefix-SID in the list (unless it&#8217;s a node S=
ID).&nbsp; I&#8217;ve reworded as follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; If a PCC receives an SR-ERO subobject i=
n which the S bit is set to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; zero and the M bit is set to zero, then=
 the subobject contains a SID<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; index value.&nbsp; If the SID is a pref=
ix-SID but not a node-SID, then the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; PCC MUST send a PCErr message with Erro=
r-Type =3D 10 (&quot;Reception of an<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; invalid object&quot;) and Error Value =
=3D TBD9 (&quot;Bad SID type in SR-ERO&quot;).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; If the SID is an Adjacency-SID then the=
 L flag MUST NOT be set.&nbsp; If<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; the L flag is set for an Adjacency-SID =
then the PCC MUST send a PCErr<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; message with Error-Type =3D 10 (&quot;R=
eception of an invalid object&quot;) and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Error-Value =3D 11 (&quot;Malformed obj=
ect&quot;).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[[Dhruv Dhody]] This is be=
tter but I feel we should not include the prefix SID check. There are use-c=
ases to include prefix SID as the bottom SID (Refer
 SR policy draft)! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(8) Section 6.2.2.4, this error is not clear &=
#8211;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; If the PCC cannot find an SRGB in the=
 LSDB, it MUST send a PCErr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; message with Error-Type =3D=
 10 (&quot;Reception of an invalid object&quot;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and Error-Value =3D TBD5 (&=
quot;Could not find SRGB&quot;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Does it mean that a particular node does not s=
upport SR or did not advertise SRGB and thus PCC is unaware of the SRGB inf=
ormation of that node? &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] If the PCE has provided the PCC with a list of=
 SID index values, then the PCC needs to use the SRGBs of the nodes on the =
path to convert the SIDs into labels.&nbsp; If the PCC cannot find a given =
node&#8217;s SRGB in its local SR-DB (e.g. someone
 forgot to turn on SR on that node) then it sends this error.&nbsp; Have up=
dated text to:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; If the PCC needs to convert a S=
ID into an MPLS label value but<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cannot find the corre=
sponding router's SRGB in the SR-DB, it MUST<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; send a PCErr message =
with Error-Type =3D 10 (&quot;Reception of an<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; invalid object&quot;)=
 and Error-Value =3D TBD5 (&quot;Could not find SRGB&quot;).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">END NEW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Similar for SRLB.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Nits:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">*****<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(1)
</span><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.=
org/archive/id/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-12.txt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">https://www.iet=
f.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-pce-seg=
ment-routing-12.txt</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">
 - all easy to fix with a new update! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(2) s/</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-s=
erif">PATH_SETUP_TYPE/PATH-SETUP-TYPE/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(3) s/PATH_SETUP_TYPE_CAPABILITY/PATH-SETUP-TY=
PE-CAPABILITY/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(4) We have used the term octet mostly except =
for 2 instances of bytes. Suggest to use the same term.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(5) Section 8.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">OLD:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; When a PCC requests a path for an LSP=
, it can nominate a preferred<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; path setup type by includin=
g it in the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV in the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RP object of the PCInitiate=
 message.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">NEW:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; When a PCC requests a path for an LSP=
, it can nominate a preferred<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; path setup type by includin=
g it in the PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV in the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RP object of the PCReq mess=
age.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">(6) Section 8.3, for the first 2 bullets only =
L flag is mentioned. I think we should also include the N flag.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[Jon] OK to all the above.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft!

Thanks!
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On=
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</b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 October 2018 14:12<br>
<b>To:</b> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] IPR check on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear authors of draft-ietf-p=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Could you please send an ema=
il to the PCE mailing list saying whether you are aware of any IPR that app=
lies to draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp and, if so, if it has been disclos=
ed in compliance with IETF IPR rules?
 (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details.) If you are not awar=
e of any IPR that applies, please reply saying &quot;I am not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A reply is required from eac=
h of you before publication can proceed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon &amp; Julien<o:p></o:p><=
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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Regards,
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> Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp,
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>
> Could you please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you
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> if so, if it has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See
> RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details.) If you are not aware of
> any IPR that applies, please reply saying "I am not aware of any IPR that
> applies to this draft".
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>
>
> A reply is required from each of you before publication can proceed.
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> Thanks,
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> Jon & Julien
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I am not aware of any IPR that a=
pplies to this draft.</span></div><div><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><br></span></di=
v><div><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Regards,</span></div><div><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
-Pavan<br></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:42 AM Jonathan Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.Hardwick=3D=
<a href=3D"mailto:40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40metaswitch.com@dmarc.i=
etf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear au=
thors of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Could y=
ou please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you are awar=
e of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp and, if so, i=
f it has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules?
 (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details.) If you are not awar=
e of any IPR that applies, please reply saying &quot;I am not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft&quot;.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=
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<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A reply=
 is required from each of you before publication can proceed.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Thanks,=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon &am=
p; Julien<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_8554824416417397054MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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Yosuke Tanaka <yosuke.tanaka@ntt.com>


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Subject: IPR check on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp


Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp,



Could you please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you are aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp and, if so, if it has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details.) If you are not aware of any IPR that applies, please reply saying "I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft".



A reply is required from each of you before publication can proceed.



Thanks,



Jon & Julien




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Hi WG,

The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tentatively scheduled for Monday afternoon
[1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, please send
a slot request to the secretary and the chairs by Monday October 22nd
including:
- the draft(s) you want to discuss,
- the expected presenter name,
- the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot,
- the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to using the mailing
list (open 24/7).

Thank you,
Dhruv, Jon & Julien

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-13.txt
	Pages           : 31
	Date            : 2018-10-12

Abstract:
   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) that allow a
   stateful PCE to compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths,
   as well as a PCC to request a path subject to certain constraints and
   optimization criteria in SR networks.



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Thanks Jon for this update.=20
All my previous comments are handled.=20

I was preparing the shepherd report, could you update these -=20

(1) IDnits - https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/a=
rchive/id/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-13.txt needs an update in referenc=
es.=20
  =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-19) exists of
     draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-16

  =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-23) exists of
     draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-msd-20

(2) Could you re-evaluate the internet drafts that are listed as normative =
references? In my view they are informative in nature.=20

Thanks!=20
Dhruv =20

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> Title:		PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
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> Abstract:
>    Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
>    without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
>    RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
>    State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
>    be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
>    Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
>    Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
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Hi Dhruv

I will fix these.  In evaluating your comment (2) I realized that the first=
 paragraph of the introduction is not quite correct in the way it defines a=
 segment.  I will update that, too.

Cheers
Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, 13 October, 2018 10:25 AM
To: Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>; pce@ietf.org; Dhr=
uv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-13=
.txt

Thanks Jon for this update.=20
All my previous comments are handled.=20

I was preparing the shepherd report, could you update these -=20

(1) IDnits - https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/a=
rchive/id/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-13.txt needs an update in referenc=
es.=20
  =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-19) exists of
     draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-16

  =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-23) exists of
     draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-msd-20

(2) Could you re-evaluate the internet drafts that are listed as normative =
references? In my view they are informative in nature.=20

Thanks!=20
Dhruv =20

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> Subject: [Pce] FW: New Version Notification for=20
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> This revision addresses the recent comments from the shepherd review=20
> and the 2nd WGLC.
> I believe that this is now ready for the IESG.  Dhruv - please check=20
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> Thanks
> Jon
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> Name:		draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing
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> Title:		PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
> Document date:	2018-10-12
> Group:		pce
> Pages:		31
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pce-
> segment-routing-13.txt
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> routing/
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> segment-routing
> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-segmen=
t-
> routing-13
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> Abstract:
>    Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-14.txt
	Pages           : 31
	Date            : 2018-10-13

Abstract:
   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) that allow a
   stateful PCE to compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths,
   as well as a PCC to request a path subject to certain constraints and
   optimization criteria in SR networks.



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This poll ended a week ago, with a pretty limited response.  The chairs wil=
l discuss next steps with the authors.
Cheers
Jon

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Subject: WG adoption poll for draft-zhang-pce-resource-sharing-07

Hi PCE WG!

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhang-pce-resource-sha=
ring-07 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-pce-resource-sharing/

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rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
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The poll ends on Friday, October 5.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This poll ended a week ago, with a pretty limited re=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jonathan Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.Hardwick=
@metaswitch.com&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 21 September, 2018 2:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org; draft-zhang-pce-resource-sharing@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> WG adoption poll for draft-zhang-pce-resource-sharing-07<o:=
p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi PCE WG!<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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ument.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-pce-resource-sharing/">https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/doc/draft-zhang-pce-resource-sharing/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and sen=
d an email to the list indicating &#8220;yes/support&#8221; or &#8220;no/do=
 not support&#8221;.&nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbs=
p; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see
 addressed once the document is a WG document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Friday, Octobe=
r 5.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon and Julien<o:p></o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont=
roller/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Friday, October 26.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien


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Hi Olivier,

A couple of the authors have been discussing this and playing with =
possible approaches.

The first thing to note is that DSCP is one of the flowspec types =
inherited from BGP, so that function is available for classifying the =
traffic that is placed on an LSP. Thus it is possible to associate a =
tunnel to a particular class of service.

We should also note that, while the class of service of an LSP can be =
specified in the PCReq and PCInitiate messages as you say, it does not =
follow that there is a simple relationship between the overlay and =
underlay classes of service. For example, the bronze traffic from a =
platinum customer may be assigned better treatment than the gold traffic =
from a bronze customer. Thus it is better to use the flowspecs, and not =
a simple inheritance bit.

The second point you raise is about rate limiting, or maybe we should =
call it policing. When an LSP is set up, bandwidth is assigned within =
the network; you are asking, we think, whether we can add a control for =
whether the traffic should be limited to that assigned bandwidth or not.

Actually, we think the situation is more complicated:
- Multiple flowspecs may be applied to a single LSP making it confusing =
how to=20
  apply your proposed single bit
- The amount of traffic applied to an LSP may range from some amount of
   undersubscription to some amount of deliberate over-subscription

Furthermore, we think that the subscription rate is probably a quality =
of the LSP itself rather than specific to the flowspec. We'd like to =
propose, therefore, that we define a new parameter for the PCEP messages =
that would be a Policing TLV (possibly in a new object or possibly in an =
existing object - that needs to be though about) that carries the =
percentage that the LSP should be loaded (range 0 to 200% ?).=20

If you're agreeable to that, we think it would be worth documenting that =
feature in a new draft.

Thanks,
Adrian

PS. With regard to your other email, yes, we thing that the AFI is =
needed. This would not have been the case if IDR had kept to a single =
registry for all flowspec types and had created entries for both v4 and =
46, but they have decided have two registries that have overlapping =
values initially but that may diverge over time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Dugeon
> Sent: 20 July 2018 16:58
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] Comments on QoS with flowspec =
(draft-ietf-pce-flowspec-01.txt)
>=20
> Dear authors,
>=20
> After reading your draft-ietf-pce-flowspec-01.txt, I would know if it =
is possible to
> also handle some QoS  policy configuration in conjunction with the =
flowspec.
>=20
> In fact, when you configure a TE tunnel with some reserved bandwidth =
and/or a
> given Class Type and you specify which packets could belong to this =
tunnel, in
> general, you also associate corresponding policy configuration. In =
particular, you
> would associated to the tunnel a given Class of Service, thus a given =
DSCP
> marking/queuing, and if you reserved some bandwidth, you would =
configure
> some rate limit to be sure that no excess traffic belongs to this =
tunnel. This give to
> operational entity a complete control over the traffic that belongs to =
this tunnel.
>=20
> So, do you think it is feasible to add two more bits in the Flow Spec =
Object to
> specify if the PCC must associate a Rate Limiter and/or queuing =
policy? It is not
> necessary to specify the bandwidth value, nor the Class Type as there =
have been
> provided previously (during the tunnel computation through PCReq =
message or
> tunnel setup through PCInitiate message), so only 2 more bits are =
necessary.
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> Olivier
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Jonathan Hardwick
                          Vishnu Pavan Beeram
                          Jeff Tantsura
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt
	Pages           : 116
	Date            : 2018-10-15

Abstract:
   This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path
   Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications
   between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation
   Element (PCE), or between two PCEs.  The data model includes
   configuration data and state data (status information and counters
   for the collection of statistics).


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Hi WG,

The changes in this update are -

- Use of identity instead of typedef for lsp-error
- Reusing PST, Objective function, association-types from the te-types
- Update to PCEP-SR as per the SR capability TLV
- Simplification of key (as done by other yang models)
- Alignment to explicit-route-hop in te-types

The draft does not have any other pending actions.

Thanks!
Dhruv
PS. The yang errors in the datatracker are in the imported yang modules.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:32 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element
> Communications Protocol (PCEP)
>         Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
>                           Jonathan Hardwick
>                           Vishnu Pavan Beeram
>                           Jeff Tantsura
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt
>         Pages           : 116
>         Date            : 2018-10-15
>
> Abstract:
>    This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path
>    Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications
>    between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation
>    Element (PCE), or between two PCEs.  The data model includes
>    configuration data and state data (status information and counters
>    for the collection of statistics).
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09
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div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet =
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fault"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- Update t=
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ult"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- Simplifica=
tion of key (as done by other yang models)</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- Alignm=
ent to explicit-route-hop in te-types</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet =
ms, sans-serif">The draft does not have any other pending actions.</font></=
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ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=
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The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to
consider the following document: - 'PCEP extensions for GMPLS'
  <draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions-12.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
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Abstract


   This memo provides extensions to the Path Computation Element
   communication Protocol (PCEP) for the support of GMPLS control plane.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.





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The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to
consider the following document: - 'PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing'
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Abstract


   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) that allow a
   stateful PCE to compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths,
   as well as a PCC to request a path subject to certain constraints and
   optimization criteria in SR networks.





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Yes/ Support

This document extends PCEP messages to support RFC 8283 and re-used existin=
g PCEP stateful messages. This I-D has been around (and was worked on durin=
g past Hackathon, showcased at Bits-n-Bytes) and is in a good state for the=
 WG to further refine.

Thanks!
Dhruv (as a co-author)

Dhruv Dhody
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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
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ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This document extends PCEP messa=
ges to support RFC 8283 and re-used existing PCEP stateful messages. This I=
-D has been around (and was worked on during past
 Hackathon, showcased at Bits-n-Bytes) and is in a good state for the WG to=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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This last call has ended.  I will prepare the shepherd report.
Cheers
Jon

From: Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>
Sent: Monday, 1 October, 2018 5:10 PM
To: pce@ietf.org
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Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-07

Hi all

This message begins a 2-week WG last call for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p=
2mp-07.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/

Please read the document and reply to the PCE mailing list, indicating whet=
her you believe this document is ready to be published or not (including an=
y comments on why not).  The last call will end on Monday 15 October.

Best regards

Jon and Julien


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extension for Flow Specification
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Adrian Farrel
                          Zhenbin Li
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02.txt
	Pages           : 28
	Date            : 2018-10-16

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable
   of selecting the paths through a traffic engineered network.  These
   paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may
   be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements.
   Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey
   the details of the computed path.

   Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow
   Specifications".  RFC 5575 defines the Flow Specification and
   describes how it may be distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic
   flows to be associated with routes.

   This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support
   dissemination of Flow Specifications.  This allows a PCE to indicate
   what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of.


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Hi WG,

The main changes in this update are -

- A new field 'AFI' in FLOWSPEC object to allow distinction between Flow
Spec Component Types for IPv4 and IPv6
- Clarification related to Flow Specification TLV Type Ranges inherited
from BGP
- Moved the table for Flow Specification TLV Types to appendix and added
L2VPN, MPLS related types as well
- Diff:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-01&url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02

Thanks Olivier for your comments, we need to continue to discuss the rate
limiting as per Adrian's reply.

Regards,
Dhruv

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:42 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : PCEP Extension for Flow Specification
>         Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
>                           Adrian Farrel
>                           Zhenbin Li
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02.txt
>         Pages           : 28
>         Date            : 2018-10-16
>
> Abstract:
>    The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable
>    of selecting the paths through a traffic engineered network.  These
>    paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may
>    be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements.
>    Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey
>    the details of the computed path.
>
>    Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow
>    Specifications".  RFC 5575 defines the Flow Specification and
>    describes how it may be distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic
>    flows to be associated with routes.
>
>    This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support
>    dissemination of Flow Specifications.  This allows a PCE to indicate
>    what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default"><div class=
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"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" fac=
e=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Hi WG,=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></f=
ont></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"treb=
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s, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D=
"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- A new field &#39;AFI&#39; in =
FLOWSPEC object to allow distinction between Flow Spec Component Types for =
IPv4 and IPv6</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c34=
3d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- Clarification related to Flow Speci=
fication TLV Type Ranges inherited from BGP</font></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- Moved=
 the table for Flow Specification TLV Types to appendix and added L2VPN, MP=
LS related types as well=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><fo=
nt color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- Diff: <a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-01&amp;url2=
=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddra=
ft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-01&amp;url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-02</a>=
</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"t=
rebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><fon=
t color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Thanks Olivier for yo=
ur comments, we need to continue to discuss the rate limiting as per Adrian=
&#39;s reply.=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D=
"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Re=
gards,</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" fac=
e=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Dhruv</font></div></div></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:42 PM &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.<b=
r>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 PCEP Extension for Flow Specification<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Dhru=
v Dhody<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Adrian Farrel<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Zhenbin Li<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet=
f-pce-pcep-flowspec-02.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 28<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 :=
 2018-10-16<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component c=
apable<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0of selecting the paths through a traffic engineered network.=
=C2=A0 These<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation,=
 or may<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network eleme=
nts.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to c=
onvey<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the details of the computed path.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic flows may be categorized and described using &quot;Flo=
w<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Specifications&quot;.=C2=A0 RFC 5575 defines the Flow Specific=
ation and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0describes how it may be distributed in BGP to allow specific t=
raffic<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0flows to be associated with routes.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0dissemination of Flow Specifications.=C2=A0 This allows a PCE =
to indicate<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of=
.<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/</a><br>
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Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the answers. My comments below.

Regards

Olivier

Le 15/10/2018 =C3=A0 14:37, Adrian Farrel a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> A couple of the authors have been discussing this and playing with poss=
ible approaches.
>
> The first thing to note is that DSCP is one of the flowspec types inher=
ited from BGP, so that function is available for classifying the traffic =
that is placed on an LSP. Thus it is possible to associate a tunnel to a =
particular class of service.
[OD] Agree. I also note in the new version published today that my other =
questions (in a separate mail) have been raised. In particular the possib=
ility to use an MPLS Label or a VlanID. All these flowspec types are inhe=
rited from BGP. It is much more clear in the new version of the draft.
>
> We should also note that, while the class of service of an LSP can be s=
pecified in the PCReq and PCInitiate messages as you say, it does not fol=
low that there is a simple relationship between the overlay and underlay =
classes of service. For example, the bronze traffic from a platinum custo=
mer may be assigned better treatment than the gold traffic from a bronze =
customer. Thus it is better to use the flowspecs, and not a simple inheri=
tance bit.
[OD] Well, the way we operate DiffServ is more on a per Class of Service =
i.e. allocate a DCSP value per application type rather than on a per cust=
omer or per subscription type basis. So, my question is related to flows =
that are not yet mark with a DSCP value or need to be remark. For that pu=
rpose, we need to identify the flows that will belongs to this tunnel and=
 get the DSCP value of the tunnel. For example, if I setup an MPLS-TE tun=
nel with DSCP value EF to carry voice traffic, I would have the possibili=
ty to filter packets that belongs to this tunnel as Voice flow.
>
> The second point you raise is about rate limiting, or maybe we should c=
all it policing. When an LSP is set up, bandwidth is assigned within the =
network; you are asking, we think, whether we can add a control for wheth=
er the traffic should be limited to that assigned bandwidth or not.
>
> Actually, we think the situation is more complicated:
> - Multiple flowspecs may be applied to a single LSP making it confusing=
 how to=20
>   apply your proposed single bit
> - The amount of traffic applied to an LSP may range from some amount of=

>    undersubscription to some amount of deliberate over-subscription
[OD] I agree that just one bits is not sufficient for that purpose, but I=
 would not start the discussion by requesting too much modification i.e. =
adding a new Policy TLV or Object.
>
> Furthermore, we think that the subscription rate is probably a quality =
of the LSP itself rather than specific to the flowspec. We'd like to prop=
ose, therefore, that we define a new parameter for the PCEP messages that=
 would be a Policing TLV (possibly in a new object or possibly in an exis=
ting object - that needs to be though about) that carries the percentage =
that the LSP should be loaded (range 0 to 200% ?).=20
[OD] I think the 2 approaches are complementary. In fact it corresponds t=
o what is named ingress-policy and egress-policy. With my proposal, I wou=
ld address the case of the egress-policy where the router will police and=
 eventually shape/pace the traffic of the LSP according to the amount of =
bandwidth reserved during the PCReq of PCinitiate phase. This will ensure=
 that the ingress router (i.e. the PCC) will not send more traffic than t=
hat has been reserved during the Path Computation performed by the PCE. T=
his will allow an operator to guarantee that the LSP could carry the nego=
tiated bandwidth while not disturbing the other LSPs for which the operat=
or has also some commitments (i.e. respect the negotiated SLA of __all__ =
LSP of __all__ customers).
Your approach allow to specify the ingress-policy associated to the flows=
pec. If the egress-policy is quiet simple and could accommodate of only 1=
 bit indication, the ingress-policy need a new Policy TLV or Object. Of c=
ourse, we could generalize this new Policy to egress-policy which allow a=
 more flexible management e.g. determine if we perform just a rate-limit,=
 a rate-limit + shaping, the percentage of the bandwidth ... It is also m=
andatory if the LSP carry more than one CoS i.e. an E-LSP. In this case, =
we need to specify the percentage of bandwidth of each CoS which required=
 also a new Policy TLV.
>
> If you're agreeable to that, we think it would be worth documenting tha=
t feature in a new draft.
[OD] Fine. Let me know if you need help to write some new sections for th=
is draft.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
> PS. With regard to your other email, yes, we thing that the AFI is need=
ed. This would not have been the case if IDR had kept to a single registr=
y for all flowspec types and had created entries for both v4 and 46, but =
they have decided have two registries that have overlapping values initia=
lly but that may diverge over time.
=C2=A0[OD] I appreciate the new version of the draft that add clarificati=
on on that, in particular the new table in appendix.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Dugeon
>> Sent: 20 July 2018 16:58
>> To: pce@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Pce] Comments on QoS with flowspec (draft-ietf-pce-flowspec-=
01.txt)
>>
>> Dear authors,
>>
>> After reading your draft-ietf-pce-flowspec-01.txt, I would know if it =
is possible to
>> also handle some QoS  policy configuration in conjunction with the flo=
wspec.
>>
>> In fact, when you configure a TE tunnel with some reserved bandwidth a=
nd/or a
>> given Class Type and you specify which packets could belong to this tu=
nnel, in
>> general, you also associate corresponding policy configuration. In par=
ticular, you
>> would associated to the tunnel a given Class of Service, thus a given =
DSCP
>> marking/queuing, and if you reserved some bandwidth, you would configu=
re
>> some rate limit to be sure that no excess traffic belongs to this tunn=
el. This give to
>> operational entity a complete control over the traffic that belongs to=
 this tunnel.
>>
>> So, do you think it is feasible to add two more bits in the Flow Spec =
Object to
>> specify if the PCC must associate a Rate Limiter and/or queuing policy=
? It is not
>> necessary to specify the bandwidth value, nor the Class Type as there =
have been
>> provided previously (during the tunnel computation through PCReq messa=
ge or
>> tunnel setup through PCInitiate message), so only 2 more bits are nece=
ssary.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Olivier
>>
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Hi Tom,=20

> >
> > The draft does not have any other pending actions.
>=20
> Mmm why can I not resist the challenge?
>=20

[[Dhruv Dhody]] I am glad you took the challenge and pointed these out :), =
I will update them along with the forthcoming yangdoctor's review!

Thanks!=20
Dhruv=20

> You say
>    RFC Ed.: In this section, replace all occurrences of 'XXXX' with the
>    actual RFC number ...
> and then
>     import ietf-te {    prefix "te";    reference "RFC XXXX";    }
>     import ietf-te-types {     prefix "te-types";    reference "RFC
> XXXX";
>     import ietf-tls-server {   prefix "tls-server";    reference "RFC
> XXXX";   }
>     import ietf-tls-client {    prefix "tls-client";     reference "RFC
> XXXX";
>=20
> Mmm I think not!
>=20
> And, I like all the references in the YANG module but they need to be in
> the references of the I-D.  I think you are missing
>=20
> 3209
> 5088
> 5089
> 5520
> 5541
> 5557
> 6536
> 8232
> 8306
>=20
> while
> 8253
> is there but Informative; my preference is for such references to be
> Normative.
>=20
> A common practice is to have a section just prior to the module proper
> which gives references to all the RFC which the module references, which
> obviates the appearance of warnings about  'Unused Reference'.
>=20
> Tom Petch
>=20
>=20
> > Dhruv
> > PS. The yang errors in the datatracker are in the imported yang
> modules.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:32 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > > directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the
> IETF.
> > >
> > >         Title           : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation
> Element
> > > Communications Protocol (PCEP)
> > >         Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
> > >                           Jonathan Hardwick
> > >                           Vishnu Pavan Beeram
> > >                           Jeff Tantsura
> > >         Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt
> > >         Pages           : 116
> > >         Date            : 2018-10-15
> > >
> > > Abstract:
> > >    This document defines a YANG data model for the management of
> Path
> > >    Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for
> communications
> > >    between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation
> > >    Element (PCE), or between two PCEs.  The data model includes
> > >    configuration data and state data (status information and
> counters
> > >    for the collection of statistics).
> > >
> > >
> > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/
> > >
> > > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09
> > >
> > > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09
> > >
> > >
> > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
> > > tools.ietf.org.
> > >
> > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> > >
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Hi again Olivier,


> > The first thing to note is that DSCP is one of the flowspec types =
inherited from
> > BGP, so that function is available for classifying the traffic that =
is placed on an LSP.
> > Thus it is possible to associate a tunnel to a particular class of =
service.
>
> [OD] Agree. I also note in the new version published today that my =
other
> questions (in a separate mail) have been raised. In particular the =
possibility to use
> an MPLS Label or a VlanID. All these flowspec types are inherited from =
BGP. It is
> much more clear in the new version of the draft.

Hooray :-)

> > We should also note that, while the class of service of an LSP can =
be specified in
> > the PCReq and PCInitiate messages as you say, it does not follow =
that there is a
> > simple relationship between the overlay and underlay classes of =
service. For
> > example, the bronze traffic from a platinum customer may be assigned =
better
> > treatment than the gold traffic from a bronze customer. Thus it is =
better to use
> > the flowspecs, and not a simple inheritance bit.
>
> [OD] Well, the way we operate DiffServ is more on a per Class of =
Service i.e.
> allocate a DCSP value per application type rather than on a per =
customer or per
> subscription type basis. So, my question is related to flows that are =
not yet mark
> with a DSCP value or need to be remark. For that purpose, we need to =
identify
> the flows that will belongs to this tunnel and get the DSCP value of =
the tunnel.
> For example, if I setup an MPLS-TE tunnel with DSCP value EF to carry =
voice
> traffic, I would have the possibility to filter packets that belongs =
to this tunnel as
> Voice flow.

I think we agree, basically.

Packets on a flow may have a DSCP and other properties. We want to be =
able to describe those properties and assign the packets to an LSP. Our =
aim is that we can do all that with our PCEP Flowspec descriptors (and =
we think we can).

There are four other components of this system:
1. Decide which LSPs to set up
2. Decide what code points to use on an LSP
3. Tell the head end what code point to use
4. Decide which traffic flows to assign to which LSPs
(The fifth step of telling the head end what traffic to put on the LSP =
is the subject of this draft.)
I think steps 1, 2, and 4 belong with a central controller/PCE.
Step 3 belongs in PCEP, just not in this draft.

> > The second point you raise is about rate limiting, or maybe we =
should call it
> > policing. When an LSP is set up, bandwidth is assigned within the =
network; you
> > are asking, we think, whether we can add a control for whether the =
traffic should
> > be limited to that assigned bandwidth or not.
> >
> > Actually, we think the situation is more complicated:
> > - Multiple flowspecs may be applied to a single LSP making it =
confusing how to
> >   apply your proposed single bit
> > - The amount of traffic applied to an LSP may range from some amount =
of
> >    undersubscription to some amount of deliberate over-subscription
>
> [OD] I agree that just one bits is not sufficient for that purpose, =
but I would not
> start the discussion by requesting too much modification i.e. adding a =
new Policy
> TLV or Object.
>=20
> > Furthermore, we think that the subscription rate is probably a =
quality of the LSP
> > itself rather than specific to the flowspec. We'd like to propose, =
therefore, that
> > we define a new parameter for the PCEP messages that would be a =
Policing TLV
> > (possibly in a new object or possibly in an existing object - that =
needs to be
> > though about) that carries the percentage that the LSP should be =
loaded (range 0
> > to 200% ?).
>
> [OD] I think the 2 approaches are complementary. In fact it =
corresponds to what
> is named ingress-policy and egress-policy. With my proposal, I would =
address the
> case of the egress-policy where the router will police and eventually =
shape/pace
> the traffic of the LSP according to the amount of bandwidth reserved =
during the
> PCReq of PCinitiate phase. This will ensure that the ingress router =
(i.e. the PCC)
> will not send more traffic than that has been reserved during the Path
> Computation performed by the PCE. This will allow an operator to =
guarantee that
> the LSP could carry the negotiated bandwidth while not disturbing the =
other LSPs
> for which the operator has also some commitments (i.e. respect the =
negotiated
> SLA of __all__ LSP of __all__ customers).
> Your approach allow to specify the ingress-policy associated to the =
flowspec. If
> the egress-policy is quiet simple and could accommodate of only 1 bit =
indication,
> the ingress-policy need a new Policy TLV or Object. Of course, we =
could
> generalize this new Policy to egress-policy which allow a more =
flexible
> management e.g. determine if we perform just a rate-limit, a =
rate-limit + shaping,
> the percentage of the bandwidth ... It is also mandatory if the LSP =
carry more
> than one CoS i.e. an E-LSP. In this case, we need to specify the =
percentage of
> bandwidth of each CoS which required also a new Policy TLV.

Actually, I was not trying to describe "ingress-policy associated to the =
flowspec." My intention was to describe the gross ingress-policy =
associated with the whole LSP.

This seems to be getting more complicated the more we talk about it :-) =
I'd like us to be able provide this function, but I want us to get it =
right. I wonder if ...

> > If you're agreeable to that, we think it would be worth documenting =
that
> > feature in a new draft.
> [OD] Fine. Let me know if you need help to write some new sections for =
this
> draft.

Definitely!

On my list of work.

Best,
Adrian



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Dhruv

I will have some more in a day or so.  Meanwhile,

I note that some of the lines exceed the limit allowed for an RFC, e.g.
in the tree diagrams.

The convention (rule almost) is to use the same prefix for the same
module in all cases; here you have
       import ietf-pcep {
          prefix p;
and
module ietf-pcep {
...
    prefix pcep;

I find it useful for the YANG reference clauses to include the name of
the RFC as well as the RFC number e.g.
       reference
         "RFC4360: BGP Extended Communities Attribute.
          RFC5668: 4-Octet AS Specific BGP Extended Community.";

Tom Petch

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Hi Tom,

> >
> > The draft does not have any other pending actions.
>
> Mmm why can I not resist the challenge?
>

[[Dhruv Dhody]] I am glad you took the challenge and pointed these out
:), I will update them along with the forthcoming yangdoctor's review!

Thanks!
Dhruv

> You say
>    RFC Ed.: In this section, replace all occurrences of 'XXXX' with
the
>    actual RFC number ...
> and then
>     import ietf-te {    prefix "te";    reference "RFC XXXX";    }
>     import ietf-te-types {     prefix "te-types";    reference "RFC
> XXXX";
>     import ietf-tls-server {   prefix "tls-server";    reference "RFC
> XXXX";   }
>     import ietf-tls-client {    prefix "tls-client";     reference
"RFC
> XXXX";
>
> Mmm I think not!
>
> And, I like all the references in the YANG module but they need to be
in
> the references of the I-D.  I think you are missing
>
> 3209
> 5088
> 5089
> 5520
> 5541
> 5557
> 6536
> 8232
> 8306
>
> while
> 8253
> is there but Informative; my preference is for such references to be
> Normative.
>
> A common practice is to have a section just prior to the module proper
> which gives references to all the RFC which the module references,
which
> obviates the appearance of warnings about  'Unused Reference'.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> > Dhruv
> > PS. The yang errors in the datatracker are in the imported yang
> modules.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:32 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > > directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of
the
> IETF.
> > >
> > >         Title           : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation
> Element
> > > Communications Protocol (PCEP)
> > >         Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
> > >                           Jonathan Hardwick
> > >                           Vishnu Pavan Beeram
> > >                           Jeff Tantsura
> > >         Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt


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Reviewer: Joel Halpern
Review result: Ready

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
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Document: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-14
Reviewer: Joel Halpern
Review Date: 2018-10-18
IETF LC End Date: 2018-10-29
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Summary: This document is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC.

Major issues: N/A

Minor issues: N/A

Nits/editorial comments:  N/A



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    pce Session 1 (1:30 requested)
    Monday, 5 November 2018, Afternoon Session I 1350-1550
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Yes/support.

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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To: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>
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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
ontroller-08

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont=
roller/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Friday, October 26.

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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
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Yes/support as the co-author.

Best Regards,
Zhenbin(Robin)


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Yes/Support! 

The application scenario is valuable.

 

B.R.

Weiqiang Cheng

 

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 PM
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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for
draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08

 

This is the start of a two week poll on making
draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group
document.

 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont
roller/>
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-contr
oller/

 

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating
"yes/support" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your
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see addressed once the document is a WG document.

 

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Yes/Support.

This draft is well written, and good to be adopted since it is the base of =
drafts of PCECC-SR and other use cases.

Thanks,
Cheng

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Support.

From: Pce <pce-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 AM
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller@ietf.org; pce-chairs@i=
etf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
ontroller-08

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont=
roller/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Friday, October 26.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Pce &lt;pce-bounces@ietf.org&gt; <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>
Jonathan Hardwick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller@ietf.org; pce-c=
hairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-fo=
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Yes, support.

SY,
Boris

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:47 PM
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller@ietf.org; pce-chairs@i=
etf.org
Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
ontroller-08

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont=
roller/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Friday, October 26.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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Yes/Support

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 8:27 PM Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick=3D
40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> This is the start of a two week poll on making
> draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group
> document.
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-co=
ntroller/
>
>
>
> Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating
> =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.  If=
 indicating no, please state your
> reasons.  If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to
> see addressed once the document is a WG document.
>
>
>
> The poll ends on Friday, October 26.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Jon and Julien
>
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ir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 8:27 PM Jonathan Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.H=
ardwick=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40metaswitch.c=
om@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks,<u></u><u></u></spa=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Associating Working and Protection LSPs with Stateful PCE
        Authors         : Hariharan Ananthakrishnan
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Colby Barth
                          Raveendra Torvi
                          Ina Minei
                          Edward Crabbe
                          Dhruv Dhody
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-03.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2018-10-22

Abstract:
   A stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) is capable of computing as
   well as controlling via Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP)
   Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering Label Switched
   Paths (MPLS LSP).  Furthermore, it is also possible for a stateful
   PCE to create, maintain, and delete LSPs.  This document describes
   PCEP extension to associate two or more LSPs to provide end-to-end
   path protection.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Hierarchical Stateful Path Computation Element (PCE).
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
                          Jongyoon Shin
                          Daniel King
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce-06.txt
	Pages           : 20
	Date            : 2018-10-22

Abstract:
   A Stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) maintains information on
   the current network state, including: computed Label Switched Path
   (LSPs), reserved resources within the network, and pending path
   computation requests. This information may then be considered when
   computing new traffic engineered LSPs, and for associated
   and dependent LSPs, received from Path Computation Clients (PCCs).

   The Hierarchical Path Computation Element (H-PCE) architecture,
   provides an architecture to allow the optimum sequence of
   inter-connected domains to be selected, and network policy to be
   applied if applicable, via the use of a hierarchical relationship
   between PCEs.

   Combining the capabilities of Stateful PCE and the Hierarchical PCE
   would be advantageous. This document describes general considerations
   and use cases for the deployment of Stateful PCE(s) using the
   Hierarchical PCE architecture.


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Yes/Support

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Mahendra

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Applicability of Path Computation Element (PCE) for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Young Lee
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-07.txt
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	Date            : 2018-10-22

Abstract:
   Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) refers to the set of
   virtual network (VN) operations needed to orchestrate, control and
   manage large-scale multi-domain TE networks so as to facilitate
   network programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and
   end-to-end virtual service aware connectivity and network function
   virtualization services.

   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides
   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

   This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN
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Yes/Support!

Thanks,

Quintin


From: Weiqiang Cheng
To: pce<pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>
Cc: draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller<draft-zhao-pce-pcep-ex=
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Subject: Re: Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extens=
ion-for-pce-controller-08
Time: 2018-10-22 01:43:58


Yes/Support!
The application scenario is valuable.

B.R.
Weiqiang Cheng

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 PM
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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
ontroller-08

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont=
roller/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating =93yes/sup=
port=94 or =93no/do not support=94.  If indicating no, please state your re=
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 addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Friday, October 26.

Many thanks,

Jon and Julien


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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controll=
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=94.&nbsp; If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp; If yes, pleas=
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 addressed once the document is a WG document.</span></p>
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Yes/support.

This is extremely important functionality going forward, and the draft is
more than ready for adoption. having already been through 9 versions.

Cheers,
Andy


On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 4:41 AM Weiqiang Cheng <
chengweiqiang@chinamobile.com> wrote:

>
>
> Yes/Support!
>
> The application scenario is valuable.
>
>
>
> B.R.
>
> Weiqiang Cheng
>
>
>
> *From:* Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org <pce-bounces@ietf.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jonathan Hardwick
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 PM
> *To:* pce@ietf.org
> *Cc:* draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller@ietf.org;
> pce-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [Pce] WG adoption poll for
> draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08
>
>
>
> This is the start of a two week poll on making
> draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group
> document.
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-co=
ntroller/
>
>
>
> Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating
> =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.  If=
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> see addressed once the document is a WG document.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes/support.<div><br></div><div>This is extremely importan=
t functionality going forward, and the draft is more than ready for adoptio=
n. having already been through 9 versions.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,=
</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 4:41 AM Weiqiang Cheng &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:chengweiqiang@chinamobile.com">chengweiqiang@chinamobile.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"ZH-CN" lin=
k=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-4828309323656188072WordSec=
tion1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5p=
t;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1f497d">Yes/</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"color:#1f497d">Support</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1f=
497d">! <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"color:#1f497d">The application scenario is valuable.<u></u><u></=
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ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>] <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:47 PM=
<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.o=
rg</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pc=
e-controller@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-=
pce-controller@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Pce] WG adoption po=
ll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is th=
e start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-=
controller-08 a PCE working group document.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
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<span lang=3D"EN-GB">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-e=
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u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review =
the draft and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=
=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 If indicating no, plea=
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Yes/support.

Young

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
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To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller@ietf.org; pce-chairs@i=
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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
ontroller-08

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
n-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-cont=
roller/

Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends on Friday, October 26.

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One comments is that the author can also consider using the PCECC =
mechanism
to edit dynamically the LSP path that formed by the traditional LSP path
setup protocol.  Such coordination can leverage the advantages of the
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China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, =
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style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>One comments is that the author =
can also consider using the PCECC mechanism to edit dynamically the LSP =
path that formed by the traditional LSP path setup protocol. &nbsp;Such =
coordination can leverage the advantages of the central and distributed =
control protocol.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
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style=3D'text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>Network R&amp;D =
and Operation Support Department<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>China Telecom =
Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, =
China.</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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[mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick=3D40metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org] =
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=E4<span lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5'>=C4=EA<span =
lang=3DEN-US>10</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3DEN-US>13</span>=C8=D5<span =
lang=3DEN-US> 22:47<br></span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> =
pce@ietf.org<br></span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> =
draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller@ietf.org; =
pce-chairs@ietf.org<br></span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span =
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an></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08 a PCE working group =
document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><a =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>The poll ends on Friday, October =
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lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Jon and =
Julien<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Yes/support.

Best regards,
Jie

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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-c=
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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extensio=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths
        Authors         : Udayasree Palle
                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Yosuke Tanaka
                          Vishnu Pavan Beeram
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-08.txt
	Pages           : 33
	Date            : 2018-10-22

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an
   appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point-
   to-multipoint (P2MP) TE Label Switched Paths (LSPs).  This document
   provides extensions required for Path Computation Element
   Communication Protocol (PCEP) so as to enable the usage of a stateful
   PCE capability in supporting P2MP TE LSPs.


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Hi Marina,

Thanks for reading the updated version.

The "F" and "R" are not bits, but just notations borrowed from -
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-01#section-3.1
.

Do you find this notation confusing? We can discuss this (authors of the
other drafts are also in CC).

Thanks!
Dhruv


On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:49 AM Marina Fizgeer <Marina.Fizgeer@ecitele.com>
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> Hi all,
> I think that there is a small in draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-02 mistake in
> the figure: On node D LSP2 shall be with F bit and LSP1 with R bit
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>
> Best regards,
>
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>
> Marina
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rebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(12,52,61)">Thanks for reading the updated version.=C2=A0</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">The &quo=
t;F&quot; and &quot;R&quot; are not bits, but just notations borrowed from =
- <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-0=
1#section-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir=
-01#section-3.1</a>.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Do you find this notation confusing? We can =
discuss this (authors of the other drafts are also in CC).=C2=A0</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Thanks=
!=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuc=
het ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Dhruv</div><div class=3D"gmail=
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b(12,52,61)"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:49 AM Marina Fizgeer &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:Marina.Fizgeer@ecitele.com">Marina.Fizgeer@ecitele.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
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libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<h1><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1f497d;font-weight:normal">I think that there is a small in
</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-weight:normal">draft-li-pce-sr-bidir=
-path-02 </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#1f497d;font-weight:normal">mistake in the figure: On node D LSP2 sha=
ll be with F bit and LSP1 with R bit<u></u><u></u></span></h1>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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Hi WG,

The draft agenda is published -
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/

Please send the meeting slides to both your chairs and the secretery by *Friday
2nd November. *Since we are scheduled for Monday it is important to upload
the meeting material in advance.

Thanks!
Dhruv, (Jon & Julien)

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi WG,
>
> The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tentatively scheduled for Monday
> afternoon
> [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, please send
> a slot request to the secretary and the chairs by Monday October 22nd
> including:
> - the draft(s) you want to discuss,
> - the expected presenter name,
> - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot,
> - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to using the mailing
> list (open 24/7).
>
> Thank you,
> Dhruv, Jon & Julien
>
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html
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t-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Hi WG,=C2=
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ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,=
52,61)">The draft agenda is published -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker=
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rg/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
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ebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Please send the meeting sl=
ides to both your chairs and the secretery by <b><u>Friday 2nd=C2=A0Novembe=
r. </u></b>Since we are scheduled for Monday it is important to upload the =
meeting material in advance.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
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r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet m=
s&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><span style=3D"font-size:small">Tha=
nks!=C2=A0</span><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Dhruv, (Jon &amp=
; Julien)</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ie=
tf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dhruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default"><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" f=
ace=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Hi WG,</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuche=
t ms, sans-serif">The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tentatively scheduled fo=
r Monday afternoon=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font col=
or=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">[1]. If you need some face=
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ss=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-ser=
if">a slot request to the secretary and the chairs by Monday October 22nd=
=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" fac=
e=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">including:</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- the dra=
ft(s) you want to discuss,</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font c=
olor=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- the expected presenter=
 name,</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" fac=
e=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- the requested duration, including question=
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olor=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- the reason why you nee=
d face-to-face time as opposed to using the mailing</font></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif=
">list (open 24/7).</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D=
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gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Th=
ank you,</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d" f=
ace=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Dhruv, Jon &amp; Julien</font></div><div c=
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erif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0c343d"=
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org/meeting/103/agenda.html" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org=
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:09:21 +0530
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Hi Fatai,

The link works on my machine(s) (i tried on all of them). I dont see the
".." in the email [1].
Maybe your local issue?

Thanks!
Dhruv
[1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg06061.html

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:04 PM Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Dhruv,
>
>
>
> When I clicked the link you provided, it went to https://datatracker..
> ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/, and it showed something
> wrong.
>
>
>
> I think the correct link should be:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Fatai
>
>
>
> *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:* Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *=E4=BB=
=A3=E8=A1=A8 *Dhruv Dhody
> *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4:* 2018=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8825=E6=97=
=A5 16:14
> *=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:* pce@ietf.org
> *=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81:* pce-chairs@ietf.org
> *=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98:* Re: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 103
>
>
>
> Hi WG,
>
>
>
> The draft agenda is published -
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
> <https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/>
>
>
>
> Please send the meeting slides to both your chairs and the secretery by *=
Friday
> 2nd November. *Since we are scheduled for Monday it is important to
> upload the meeting material in advance.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dhruv, (Jon & Julien)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
> Hi WG,
>
>
>
> The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tentatively scheduled for Monday
> afternoon
>
> [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, please sen=
d
>
> a slot request to the secretary and the chairs by Monday October 22nd
>
> including:
>
> - the draft(s) you want to discuss,
>
> - the expected presenter name,
>
> - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot,
>
> - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to using the maili=
ng
>
> list (open 24/7).
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dhruv, Jon & Julien
>
>
>
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Hi Fatai,=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuch=
et ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
12,52,61)">The link works on my machine(s) (i tried on all of them). I dont=
 see the <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">&quot;..&quot;</sp=
an> in the email [1].</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Maybe your local=
 issue?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuc=
het ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(12,52,61)">Thanks!=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Dhruv=C2=A0<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">[1]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.o=
rg/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg06061.html">https://www.ietf.org/mail-ar=
chive/web/pce/current/msg06061.html</a></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:04 PM Fatai Zhang &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com">zhangfatai@huawei.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"ZH-CN" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_2355797405486418149WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Dhruv,<u></u><u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">When I clicked the lin=
k you provided, it went to</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10=
.5pt;color:#1f497d">
<a href=3D"https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-p=
ce/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker<span style=3D"background:yellow"=
>..</span>ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a>, and it showed=
 something wrong.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1f497d">I think the
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">correct link should be:</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1f497d">
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pc=
e/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/ag=
enda-103-pce/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Fatai<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif">=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=
<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif=
"> Pce [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pc=
e-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;\005fae\008f6f\=
0096c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif">=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 </span>
</b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;\005fa=
e\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif">Dhruv Dhody<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;\005fae\008f6f\=
0096c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif">=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4<span l=
ang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif"> 2018=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;\005fae\008f6f\009=
6c5\009ed1&quot;,sans-serif">=E5=B9=B4<span lang=3D"EN-US">10</span>=E6=9C=
=88<span lang=3D"EN-US">25</span>=E6=97=A5<span lang=3D"EN-US">
 16:14<br>
</span><b>=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf=
.org</a><br>
</span><b>=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce-chairs=
@ietf.org</a><br>
</span><b>=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> Re: [Pce] Building the PCE Agenda for IETF 103<u></u><u></u></span>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Hi WG,=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">The draft agenda is published -=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-10=
3-pce/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/material=
s/agenda-103-pce/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Please send the meeting slides to =
both your chairs and the secretery by
<b><u>Friday 2nd=C2=A0November. </u></b>Since we are scheduled for Monday i=
t is important to upload the meeting material in advance.=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Thanks!=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Dhruv, (Jon &amp; Julien)<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 A=
M Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>dhruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Hi WG,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">The PCE WG session in Bangkok is t=
entatively scheduled for Monday afternoon=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">[1]. If you need some face-to-face=
 time to progress some work, please send=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">a slot request to the secretary an=
d the chairs by Monday October 22nd=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">including:</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">- the draft(s) you want to discuss=
,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">- the expected presenter name,</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">- the requested duration, includin=
g question time as part of the slot,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">- the reason why you need face-to-=
face time as opposed to using the mailing</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">list (open 24/7).</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Thank you,</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">Dhruv, Jon &amp; Julien</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Treb=
uchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">[1]
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html" target=3D"=
_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html</a></span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
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Hi,

The correct link is the displayed one, wherever it redirects you to:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/

Julien


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Le 25/10/2018 à 11:59, Fatai Zhang a écrit :
>
> OK, thanks.
>
>  
>
> It seems that it is mischievous only on my machine, ☺
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>  
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>  
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>  
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>  
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>  
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>  
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> Thanks
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>  
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> Fatai
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>  
>
> *发件人:*Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
> [mailto:sergio.belotti@nokia.com]
> *发送时间:*2018年10月25日17:45
>
>  
>
> Hi Dhruv, Fatai,
>
>  
>
> Link is working properly also on my machine.
>
>  
>
> My 2 cents
>
> Thanks
>
> sergio
>
>  
>
> *From:*Pce <pce-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org>> *On
> Behalf Of *Dhruv Dhody
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:39 AM
>
>  
>
> Hi Fatai, 
>
>  
>
> The link works on my machine(s) (i tried on all of them). I dont see
> the ".." in the email [1].
>
> Maybe your local issue?
>
>  
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Dhruv 
>
> [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg06061.html
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:04 PM Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com
> <mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Dhruv,
>
>      
>
>     When I clicked the link you provided, it went
>     tohttps://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
>     <https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/>,
>     and it showed something wrong.
>
>      
>
>     I think the correct link should be:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
>
>      
>
>      
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>      
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>      
>
>     Thanks
>
>      
>
>     Fatai
>
>      
>
>     *发件人**:*Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org
>     <mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org>] *代表***Dhruv Dhody
>     *发送时间**:*2018年10月25日16:14
>
>      
>
>     Hi WG, 
>
>      
>
>     The draft agenda is published
>     - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
>     <https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/>
>
>      
>
>     Please send the meeting slides to both your chairs and the
>     secretery by *_Friday 2nd November. _*Since we are scheduled for
>     Monday it is important to upload the meeting material in advance. 
>
>      
>
>     Thanks! 
>
>     Dhruv, (Jon & Julien)
>
>      
>
>     On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com
>     <mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi WG,
>
>          
>
>         The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tentatively scheduled for
>         Monday afternoon 
>
>         [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work,
>         please send 
>
>         a slot request to the secretary and the chairs by Monday
>         October 22nd 
>
>         including:
>
>         - the draft(s) you want to discuss,
>
>         - the expected presenter name,
>
>         - the requested duration, including question time as part of
>         the slot,
>
>         - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to
>         using the mailing
>
>         list (open 24/7).
>
>          
>
>         Thank you,
>
>         Dhruv, Jon & Julien
>
>          
>
>         [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM <julien.meuric@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The correct link is the displayed one, wherever it redirects you to:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
>
> Julien
>
>
> P.S.: The original message was sent in both raw text and HTML, both
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>   <a
> href=3D3D"https://datatracker..
> ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/">
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
>   </a>
> So if your mail client prefers to detect URLs from the text, you get the
> right link; if it follows the exact HTML syntax, it gets the hidden
> double dot. I'd be tempted to blame the sender, but who really cares? ;-)
>
>
> Le 25/10/2018 =C3=A0 11:59, Fatai Zhang a =C3=A9crit :
> >
> > OK, thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems that it is mischievous only on my machine, =E2=98=BA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Fatai
> >
> >
> >
> > *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:*Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
> > [mailto:sergio.belotti@nokia.com]
> > *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4:*2018=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8825=E6=97=
=A517:45
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dhruv, Fatai,
> >
> >
> >
> > Link is working properly also on my machine.
> >
> >
> >
> > My 2 cents
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > sergio
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:*Pce <pce-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org>> *On
> > Behalf Of *Dhruv Dhody
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:39 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Fatai,
> >
> >
> >
> > The link works on my machine(s) (i tried on all of them). I dont see
> > the ".." in the email [1].
> >
> > Maybe your local issue?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dhruv
> >
> > [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg06061.html
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:04 PM Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com
> > <mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Dhruv,
> >
> >
> >
> >     When I clicked the link you provided, it went
> >     tohttps://datatracker..
> ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
> >     <https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce=
/
> >,
> >     and it showed something wrong.
> >
> >
> >
> >     I think the correct link should be:
> >     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >     Fatai
> >
> >
> >
> >     *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA**:*Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org
> >     <mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org>] *=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8***Dhruv Dhody
> >     *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4**:*2018=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8825=
=E6=97=A516:14
> >
> >
> >
> >     Hi WG,
> >
> >
> >
> >     The draft agenda is published
> >     - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce=
/
> >     <https://datatracker..ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce=
/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     Please send the meeting slides to both your chairs and the
> >     secretery by *_Friday 2nd November. _*Since we are scheduled for
> >     Monday it is important to upload the meeting material in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Thanks!
> >
> >     Dhruv, (Jon & Julien)
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Hi WG,
> >
> >
> >
> >         The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tentatively scheduled for
> >         Monday afternoon
> >
> >         [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work,
> >         please send
> >
> >         a slot request to the secretary and the chairs by Monday
> >         October 22nd
> >
> >         including:
> >
> >         - the draft(s) you want to discuss,
> >
> >         - the expected presenter name,
> >
> >         - the requested duration, including question time as part of
> >         the slot,
> >
> >         - the reason why you need face-to-face time as opposed to
> >         using the mailing
> >
> >         list (open 24/7).
> >
> >
> >
> >         Thank you,
> >
> >         Dhruv, Jon & Julien
> >
> >
> >
> >         [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html
> >
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:trebuche=
t ms,sans-serif;color:#0c343d">I blame gmail :)</div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:julien.meuric@orange.com">julien.meuric@orange.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
The correct link is the displayed one, wherever it redirects you to:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pc=
e/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeti=
ng/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a><br>
<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
<br>
P.S.: The original message was sent in both raw text and HTML, both<br>
showing up the correct string. The HTML version however includes:<br>
=C2=A0 &lt;a<br>
href=3D3D&quot;<a href=3D"https://datatracker." rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.</a>.<a href=3D"http://ietf.org/meeting/103=
/materials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ietf.org/m=
eeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a>&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/mate=
rials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatra=
cker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a><br>
=C2=A0 &lt;/a&gt;<br>
So if your mail client prefers to detect URLs from the text, you get the<br=
>
right link; if it follows the exact HTML syntax, it gets the hidden<br>
double dot. I&#39;d be tempted to blame the sender, but who really cares? ;=
-)<br>
<br>
<br>
Le 25/10/2018 =C3=A0 11:59, Fatai Zhang a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; OK, thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It seems that it is mischievous only on my machine, =E2=98=BA<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Fatai<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:*Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)<b=
r>
&gt; [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:sergio.belotti@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">=
sergio.belotti@nokia.com</a>]<br>
&gt; *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4:*2018=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8825=E6=
=97=A517:45<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi Dhruv, Fatai,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Link is working properly also on my machine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My 2 cents<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; sergio<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *From:*Pce &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blan=
k">pce-bounces@ietf.org</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt; *On<br>
&gt; Behalf Of *Dhruv Dhody<br>
&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:39 AM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi Fatai,=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The link works on my machine(s) (i tried on all of them). I dont see<b=
r>
&gt; the &quot;..&quot; in the email [1].<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Maybe your local issue?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks!=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dhruv=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [1]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/=
msg06061.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/ma=
il-archive/web/pce/current/msg06061.html</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:04 PM Fatai Zhang &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zhan=
gfatai@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">zhangfatai@huawei.com</a><br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">=
zhangfatai@huawei.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Dhruv,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0When I clicked the link you provided, it went<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tohttps://datatracker..<a href=3D"http://ietf.org/m=
eeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"https://datatracker." rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.</a>.<a href=3D"http://ietf.org/=
meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a>&gt;,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and it showed something wrong.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think the correct link should be:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103=
/materials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://da=
tatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Fatai<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA**:*Pce [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>=
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;] *=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8***Dhruv=
 Dhody<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4**:*2018=E5=B9=
=B410=E6=9C=8825=E6=97=A516:14<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi WG,=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The draft agenda is published<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meet=
ing/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"https://datatracker." rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.</a>.<a href=3D"http://ietf.org/=
meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-pce/</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please send the meeting slides to both your chairs =
and the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0secretery by *_Friday 2nd=C2=A0November. _*Since we=
 are scheduled for<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Monday it is important to upload the meeting materi=
al in advance.=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks!=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dhruv, (Jon &amp; Julien)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dhruv.ietf@gmail.co=
m</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">dhruv.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi WG,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The PCE WG session in Bangkok is tent=
atively scheduled for<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Monday afternoon=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[1]. If you need some face-to-face ti=
me to progress some work,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0please send=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0a slot request to the secretary and t=
he chairs by Monday<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0October 22nd=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0including:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- the draft(s) you want to discuss,<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- the expected presenter name,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- the requested duration, including q=
uestion time as part of<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the slot,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- the reason why you need face-to-fac=
e time as opposed to<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using the mailing<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0list (open 24/7).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thank you,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dhruv, Jon &amp; Julien<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[1] <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/agenda.html</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
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