From nobody Fri Mar 1 07:31:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D300130E92; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 07:31:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.92.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155145427035.6250.9905876326566073229@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 07:31:10 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-16.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 15:31:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extension for WSON Routing and Wavelength Assignment Authors : Young Lee Ramon Casellas Filename : draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-16.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2019-03-01 Abstract: This document provides the Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for the support of Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON). Path provisioning in WSONs requires a routing and wavelength assignment (RWA) process. From a path computation perspective, wavelength assignment is the process of determining which wavelength can be used on each hop of a path and forms an additional routing constraint to optical path computation. 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This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extension for WSON Routing and Wavelength Assignment Authors : Young Lee Ramon Casellas Filename : draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2019-03-01 Abstract: This document provides the Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for the support of Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON). Path provisioning in WSONs requires a routing and wavelength assignment (RWA) process. From a path computation perspective, wavelength assignment is the process of determining which wavelength can be used on each hop of a path and forms an additional routing constraint to optical path computation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Mar 1 12:35:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACC812D4F2 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 12:34:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PL78fmKbjF_O for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 12:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 345551200B3 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 12:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 3BC1BFB26BA4F8997E6E for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 20:34:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 20:34:52 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.111]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.242]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 12:34:50 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt Thread-Index: AQHU0Gz2slQAHtF10UKw9XhggX16AKX3OeAQ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 20:34:49 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0E2DFF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <155147191772.6246.13377066825372599740@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <155147191772.6246.13377066825372599740@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.123] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 20:34:58 -0000 Hi PCE WG, This version is ready for publication. Cleared the last minute comment by B= enjamin (v.16) and Deborah (v.15) . Changes were: - IANA section -- be very specific on unassigned values for section 8.2, 8.= 7 and 8.11.=20 - Section 4.3.2 -- cleaned up all irrelevant description on the identifier = per Benjamin Best regard, Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.o= rg Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 2:25 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extension for WSON Routing and Wavelength As= signment Authors : Young Lee Ramon Casellas Filename : draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2019-03-01 Abstract: This document provides the Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for the support of Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON). Path provisioning in WSONs requires a routing and wavelength assignment (RWA) process. From a path computation perspective, wavelength assignment is the process of determining which wavelength can be used on each hop of a path and forms an additional routing constraint to optical path computation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Fri Mar 1 13:10:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AC0130EE5; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 13:09:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: pce@ietf.org, db3546@att.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.92.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155147459654.6101.7434522453953405012.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 13:09:56 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] pce - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 104 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 21:09:57 -0000 Dear Dhruv Dhody, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. pce Session 1 (1:30 requested) Thursday, 28 March 2019, Morning Session I 0900-1030 Room Name: Karlin 1/2 size: 150 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/sessions/pce.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Path Computation Element Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Dhruv Dhody Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 60 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: spring mpls teas ccamp Second Priority: idr lsr rtgarea rtgwg Third Priority: i2rs detnet bier bess netconf netmod sfc People who must be present: Deborah Brungard Julien Meuric Dhruv Dhody Jonathan Hardwick Resources Requested: Special Requests: Do not schedule against RTG area BOF (if any) --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Mar 1 16:27:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09050130FE4 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 16:27:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mYcAaPhCAXsk for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 16:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DDC5130E7A for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 16:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x220REi6024129 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 00:27:14 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FE422044 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 00:27:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E104622042 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 00:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x220RD6h007856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 00:27:13 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 00:27:12 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <093c01d4d08e$ae80ff50$0b82fdf0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdTQjob9NVAfGQysTee89Gj8QfLDHw== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24464.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.377-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--3.377-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24464.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--3.376500-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: U78zh1smUYepIthzmcY7MVPjo7D4SFg4LJm8FOE9WLUJr7cROZw/EsJ0 c5scl5pNQIdYpsvMFQe6YwIzBx7WZU1+zyfzlN7y/sToY2qzpx5TqzaeVVOfNfoLR4+zsDTtjoc zmuoPCq1ARtBSnVl3aDGOV0EmCSpno0dX1KGxHdm1H62WHIzi3Pw4bZbkyEmt9HmAsM11v0u45m jKIIYY3xiCad9aBKWfm9p/RC99TJ5Lhb8xGEnVfg== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] IETF-104 meeting time X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2019 00:27:19 -0000 Hi PCE, Our meeting session in Prague has been confirmed for Thursday morning pce Session 1 (1:30 requested) Thursday, 28 March 2019, Morning Session I 0900-1030 Room Name: Karlin 1/2 size: 150 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/sessions/pce.ics See you there! Adrian (for the three chairs) From nobody Sat Mar 2 02:34:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E2612D4E9; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 02:34:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8BCqLcxfap_L; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 02:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.iomartmail.com (mta5.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8038012870E; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 02:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta5.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x22AYDJa003569; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:34:13 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0274E2203B; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:34:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.224]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E12E92203A; Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:34:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x22AYAK5022611 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:34:11 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:34:10 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <095301d4d0e3$79941b10$6cbc5130$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdTQ4yeACqwOCp7oRwWzIgyDYdtoPg== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24464.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--11.494-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--11.494-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24464.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--11.494000-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: tmbxcnYtprkzwJ7ADkakn2/CU2X9JBM7Kx5ICGp/WtGo+b+yOP0oGCGZ 6VVOVYeWvFNr77O5fQFD14h2QEbo3wVcD+m/PiZIsaPcs3T4TL2bY7RG5tPAx/gnJH5vm2+gMCX XLxgy2JRU8b0ZSPcJT0NkJlOoyNNCG/gRoOq563YD2WXLXdz+AVctRqnPrLuBLmiAvxPf/cHHP6 6OOSvGleXtCS3csq8ap0E4MN3Xs+Lykd2cVL8vA9sfxZpQv2qMOFrEjYh/1F5tw+n+iKWyyGm3F auou1xf56lhTC+w3Rl6OpUE5z3+cJNapt3w8jBkbBu6+EIezdyB0mqjupFs5Vvym/gvSH4iK0Tc +qrB0NJrh2f7lGhDTpCtTACS0GXAS3Zni/NoaLd0+657dxGJGBeN8ZMPETMtDza4K8pr9bcwd2A EstTKvi0mw44Qr35AB4DpE0UJ0Gm1M7PBFR3TvU+4wmL9kCTx0w14HFJQjaPb6Y+fnTZUL/OSqW ItdNWq4vM1YF6AJbZcLc3sLtjOt9CpCFLDTHZU3QfwsVk0Ubv+efAnnZBiL8z+Ba7+nv3uNvz0d LEVpxqTS0IMnJErWf5TK/AM79JFIR0nKEGrCDR+3BndfXUhXQ== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Adoption poll review of draft-negi-pce-segment-routing-ipv6 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2019 10:34:23 -0000 Hi, As this document is being polled for adoption, I thought it might be useful to do a review. My comments are not blocking for adoption, but can be addressed in a version if/when the draft becomes a WG document. Thanks for the work. Adrian === Abstract No need to write "Segment Routing (SR)" twice. s/Since, Segment/Since Segment/ s/This draft/This document/ --- Abstract Add a final sentence saying "Base protocol extensions and mechanisms to support MPLS-SR are described in a separate document." --- You need to expand "ERO" on first use. Try to avoid saying "ERO object" (that would be EROO? ;-) --- Section 3. This document extends the "SR-ERO subobject" defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing] to carry IPv6 SID(s) (IPv6 Addresses). SRv6-capable PCEP speakers MUST be able to generate and/or process this. I don't think "extends" is the right word. I think you define a new subobject type. Similarly... o Update the SR-ERO and SR-RRO sub-object for SRv6 I don't think "Update" is the right word. Again, you are defining a new subobject type. --- 3.3.1.1 Will you need an IANA registry for the SRv6-PCE-CAPABILITY flags? --- 3.3.1.1 makes I-D.bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions a normative reference --- 3.3.1.2 Unclear why the PCE must set the L bit since the whole TLV can be ignored by the PCC. Actually, unclear why the TLV must be present when sent by the PCE. --- 3.3.3.1 It is really confusing to show a field that is not there! But, also, to model what is in I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing, I think you should keep the NAI as part of the core sub-object definition. It might be better if this section looked something like the following. 3.3.3.1. SR-ERO Subobject [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing] defines the SR-ERO subobject. The Node or Adjacency Identifier Type (NAI Type or NT) field indicates the type and format of the NAI contained in the body of the subobject. This document defines a new NT with value TBD3 to indicate an SRv6 SID. When the NT indicates SRv6, then the SR-ERO subobject represent a SRv6 segment. In this case, the optional SID and NAI fields MUST NOT be included, but the subobject MUST include an SRv6I (SRv6 Identifier) field. The format of SR-ERO when the NT value is TBD3 is shown in Figure 2. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |L| Type | Length | NT | Flags |F|S|C|M| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | | SRv6 Identifier | | (128-bit) | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SRv6NT| Flags | Function Code | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ // NAI (variable) // +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 2: SR-ERO Subobject Format For SRv6 segments, a new NT (NAI Type) is assigned by IANA as TBD3. The description of all the flags and fields is as per [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing]. For SRv6 segments (when NT is TBD3), M and C flag MUST NOT be set. The S flag MUST be set. The F bit MUST NOT be set. If these flags are not set properly, the subobject MUST be considered malformed and the PCEP speaker react as per the error handling described in Section 3.3.3.2. The SRv6 Identifier is the 128 bit IPv6 addresses representing the SRv6 segment. The SRv6NT is the SRv6 NAI Type which indicates the interpretation for NAI (Node or Adjacency Identifier). Values are as per the NT field defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing], but the value TBD3 MUST NOT be used. Flags is a 12 bit field. No flag bits are currently defined in this document. This MUST be set to 0 and ignored on receipt. Function Code is a 16 bit field representing supported functions associated with SRv6 SIDs. This information is optional and included only for maintainability. That is, no action is required of the PCC based on this field. The following function codes are defined: 0: Reserved 1: End Function 2: End.DX6 Function 3: End.DT6 Function 4: End.X Function The NAI field is modelled on [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing] and contains the NAI associated with the SRv6 Identifier. Depending on the value of SRv6NT, the NAI can have different formats. When the SRv6NT value is 0, the NAI MUST NOT be included. When SRv6NT value is 1, the NAI is as per the 'IPv6 Node ID' format defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing], which specify an IPv6 address. This is used to identify the owner of the SRv6 Identifier. This is optional, as the LOC (the locater portion) of the SRv6 SID serves a similar purpose. When SRv6NT value is 2, the NAI is as per the 'IPv6 Adjacency' format defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing], which specify a pair of IPv6 addresses. This is used to identify the IPv6 Adjacency and used with the SRv6 Adj-SID. [Editor's Note - Add IPv6 unnumbered adjacency, once done by [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing]] --- Similarly, in 3.3.4.1, it is confusing to include a field that isn't there. So maybe.... 3.3.4.1. SR-RRO Subobject For SRv6 segments, a new NT (NAI Type) is assigned by IANA as TBD3, the format of SR-RRO sub object remains the same as the SR-ERO subobject, but without the L flag [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing]. When the NAI Type (NT) indicates SRv6, then the SR-RRO subobject represent a SRv6 segment and include a field SRv6I (SRv6 Identifier) in place of NAI (Node or Adjacency Identifier) defined in [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing]. The 32 bit SID MUST NOT be included. The format of SR-RRO subobject is reproduced with the SRv6I field as shown in Figure 4. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type | Length | ST | Flags |F|S|C|M| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | | SRv6 Identifier | | (128-bit) | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SRv6NT| Flags | Function Code | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ // NAI (variable) // +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 4: SR-RRO Subobject Format The description of all fields and flags is as per SR-ERO subobject. Processing rules of SR-RRO subobject are identical to those of SR-ERO subobject. If a PCE detects that all subobjects of RRO are not identical, and if it does not handle such RRO, it MUST send a PCErr message with Error- Type = 10 ("Reception of an invalid object") and Error-Value = 10 ("Non-identical RRO subobjects"). ...But some of this text is odd! - The processing of the RRO is identical to the ERO? Surely not. - The RRO subobjects have to be identical? Identical to what? 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This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing Authors : Siva Sivabalan Clarence Filsfils Jeff Tantsura Wim Henderickx Jon Hardwick Filename : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-16.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2019-03-04 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or RSVP-TE). It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by link- state Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs). A Segment Routing Path can be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation Element (PCE). This document specifies extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC to request a path subject to certain constraints and optimization criteria in SR networks. 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB X-Originating-IP: [10.168.234.4] Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain-02.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 16:26:10 -0000 Dear all, Please find announcement of the new version of our draft about stateful int= er-domain. Main modifications are as follow: =C2=A0- From the experience we learnt with the implementation of the draft = in OpenDayLight, we correct and precise some steps and exchange in section = 3. E.g. the ERO convey in the PCInitiate message is now only composed by th= e PKS to simplify the message parsing =C2=A0- Add a new section to request a new Inter-domain association ID (wit= hin the Association Object). This is to help the management of the associat= ion of local and end-to-end part of the tunnels in case of failure. =C2=A0- Rewrite section 6, clarifying Segment Routing part and how PCE choo= se between RSVP-TE and Segment Routing to enforce its local part of the end= -to-end tunnel =C2=A0- Correct typos and clarify acronyms in various place =C2=A0- Update references =C2=A0- Step down Dhruv from author's list to acknowledge section due to it= s new function as PCE WG co-chair Note that this draft is also replacing draft-lee-pce-lsp-stitching-hpce-01.= txt (process to add it with ietf tools seems didn't work as expected). As usual, comments are welcome. Regards Olivier on behalf of co-authors -------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 -------- Sujet=C2=A0: New Version Notification for draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interd= omain-02.txt Date=C2=A0: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:27:03 -0800 De=C2=A0: internet-drafts@ietf.org Pour=C2=A0: Young Lee , Julien Meuric , Daniele Ceccarelli , Olivier = Dugeon A new version of I-D, draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Olivier Dugeon and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain Revision: 02 Title: PCEP Extension for Stateful Inter-Domain Tunnels Document date: 2019-03-04 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 31 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dugeon-pce-state= ful-interdomain-02.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-= interdomain/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-inter= domain-02 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dugeon-pce-stat= eful-interdomain Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-dugeon-pce-statef= ul-interdomain-02 Abstract: This document proposes to combine a Backward Recursive or Hierarchical method in Stateful PCE with PCInitiate message to setup independent paths per domain, and combine these different paths together in order to operate them as end-to-end inter-domain paths without the need of signaling session between AS border routers. A new Stitching Label is defined, new Path Setup Types and a new Association Type are considered for that purpose. =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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From nobody Mon Mar 4 13:26:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A11312008A; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 13:26:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.92.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155173478807.5160.1228592202147759375@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 13:26:28 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-10.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 21:26:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Extensions to Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) for Hierarchical Path Computation Elements (PCE) Authors : Fatai Zhang Quintin Zhao Oscar Gonzalez de Dios R. Casellas Daniel King Filename : draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-10.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2019-03-04 Abstract: The Hierarchical Path Computation Element (H-PCE) architecture is defined in RFC 6805. It provides a mechanism to derive an optimum end-to-end path in a multi-domain environment by using a hierarchical relationship between domains to select the optimum sequence of domains and optimum paths across those domains. This document defines extensions to the Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) to support Hierarchical PCE procedures. 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Thanks again Mike for your review. BR, Dan and the other authors.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Daniel King On Behalf Of daniel@olddog.co.uk Sent: 26 February 2019 06:19 To: 'Mike McBride' ; rtg-dir@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions.all@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: Rtgdir last call review of = draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-09 Hi Mike,=20 Thanks for your detailed review and comments!=20 We will squash those NITS and post an update shortly. BR, Dan (and the other draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions authors) =20 -----Original Message----- From: Mike McBride Sent: 25 February 2019 23:14 To: rtg-dir@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions.all@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org Subject: Rtgdir last call review of = draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-09 Reviewer: Mike McBride Review result: Has Nits I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. = The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related = drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and = sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide = assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see = http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it = would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF = Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through = discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-09 Reviewer: Mike McBride Review Date: 25 February 2019 IETF LC End Date: N/A (in preparation for IETF LC) Intended Status: = Standards Track Summary: This document is near ready for publication. It has nits that should be = considered prior to publication. Comments: Great job on the draft and congrats on near publication. It was a tad = difficult to follow certain areas of the document and I therefore offer = suggestions to improve the readability. Major issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: No minor issues found. Nits for your consideration: 1. Page 4: Replace: A child PCE may be responsible for a single domain or multiple domains, = it is used to compute the intra-domain path based on its own domain = topology information. With: A child PCE may be responsible for single or multiple domains and is = used to compute..." 2. Page 4: Replace: In addition, the parent PCE may be requested to provide only the = sequence of domains to a child PCE so that alternative inter-domain path = computation procedures, including Per Domain (PD) [RFC5152] and = Backwards Recursive Path Computation (BRPC) [RFC5441] may be used. With: The parent PCE may be requested to provide only the sequence of domains = to a child PCE so that alternative inter-domain path computation = procedures, including Per Domain (PD) [RFC5152] and Backwards Recursive = Path Computation (BRPC) [RFC5441], may be used. 3. Page 5: Replace: This could be done via With: Move formatting to the right to remain consistent in this section. Under = "Learning". 4. Page 5: Replace: The hierarchical relationship model is described in [RFC6805]. It is = applicable to environments with small groups of domains where visibility = from the ingress LSRs is limited. As highlighted in [RFC7399] applying = the hierarchical PCE model to large groups of domains such as the = Internet is not considered feasible or desirable. With: Move formatting to the right to remain consistent in this section. Under = "Stateful". 5. Page 10: Replace: The Domain-ID TLV when used in the OPEN object, identify the domains = served by the PCE. With: Add a comma after TLV s/identify/identifies 6. Page 12: Replace: The usage of Domain-ID TLV carried in an OPEN object is used to indicate = a (list of) managed domains and is described in Section 3.3.1. This TLV = when carried in an RP object, indicates the destination domain ID. With: Use of commas. Comma after 'Domain-ID TLV' and 'object'. And after 'This = TLV'. 7. Page 12: Replace: If a Domain-id TLV is used in the RP object, and the destination is not = actually in the indicated domain, then the parent PCE should respond = with a NO-PATH object and NO-PATH VECTOR TLV should be used, and a new = bit number is assigned to indicate "Destination not found in the = indicated domain" (see Section 3.7). With: End the sentence after the second 'used' and then start the new sentence = with 'And a new bit...' 8. Page 14: Replace: The domain count metric type of the METRIC object encodes the number of = domain crossed in the path. With: change the second 'domain' to 'domains' or maybe 'domain's'. 9. Page 14: Replace: A PCC or child PCE MAY use these metric in PCReq message for an = inter-domain path computation meeting the number of domain or border = nodes crossing requirement. With: Change 'these' to 'the' 10. Page 15: Replace: The Parent PCE MAY use these metric in a PCRep message along with a = NO-PATH object in the case where the PCE cannot compute a path meeting = this constraint. With: change 'these' to 'the' or change to 'PCRep messages'. 11. Page 16: Replace: The child PCE MAY also report its list of domain IDs to the parent PCE = by specifying them in the Domain-ID TLVs in the OPEN object carried in = the Open message during the PCEP session initialization procedure. With: This is a tough sentence to follow. With the following punctuation = changes is the intention still correct?: "The child PCE MAY also report = its list of domain IDs, to the parent PCE, by specifying them in the = Domain-ID TLVs in the OPEN object. This object is carried in the OPEN = message during the PCEP session initialization procedure." 12. Page 16: Replace: When a specific child PCE sends a PCReq to a peer PCE that requires = parental activity and H-PCE capability flags TLV was not included in the = session establishment procedure as described above, the peer PCE should = send a PCErr message to the child PCE and specify the error-type=3DTBD8 = (H-PCE error) and error-value=3D1 (H-PCE capability was not advertised) in the PCEP-ERROR = object. With: Again, a hard, and long, sentence to follow. I'm not certain if its the = child or peer PCE that is doing the requiring, I'll go with the peer. = See if this is still correct after adding some commas: "When a child PCE = sends a PCReq to a peer PCE, which requires parental activity and H-PCE = capability flags TLV but which were not included in the session = establishment procedure described above, the peer PCE should send a = PCErr message to the child PCE and should specify the error-type..." 13. Page 17: Replace: When a specific child PCE sends a PCReq to a peer PCE that requires = parental activity and the peer PCE does not want to act as the parent = for it, the peer PCE should send a PCErr message to the child PCE and = specify the error-type=3DTBD8 (H-PCE error) and error-value=3D2 (Parent PCE = capability cannot be provided) in the PCEP-ERROR object. With: strategically placed commas for clarity: "When a specific child PCE sends a PCReq to a peer PCE, that requires = parental activity and the peer PCE does not want to act as the parent = for it, the peer PCE..." 14. Page 17: Replace: ERO With: first time ERO is being used in the document. Please call out Explicit = Route Object somewhere. 15. Page 17: Replace: o The parent PCE do not hear from a child PCE for a specified time; With: 'does not' instead of 'do not' that's it! ;-) I'm suggestion many changes but it'll go quick and make = it much more readable. thanks, mike From nobody Tue Mar 5 23:31:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD2C130ED4 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:31:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6wINICKOjfSV for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54620130ECF for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id D9EBE3B9530167217DF0 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 07:31:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.17.39) by lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 07:31:46 +0000 Received: from DGGEML529-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.187]) by DGGEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com ([fe80::b177:a243:7a69:5ab8%31]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 15:31:40 +0800 From: "Chengli (Cheng Li)" To: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Check on draft-negi-pce-segment-routing-ipv6 Thread-Index: AQHUyno/mNeetmKlekekBjCLH8HKsKX6gQ8AgAPG8nA= Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 07:31:39 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.185.75] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] IPR Check on draft-negi-pce-segment-routing-ipv6 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 07:31:50 -0000 Hi Chairs, Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft and It has been disclosed = in compliance with IETF IPR rules. 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Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your respon= se. _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Wed Mar 6 09:41:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE97E131209; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:41:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.291 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.291 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hWlhpvbt9g3T; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from orange.com (mta239.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.66.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B68A3131208; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfedar02.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by opfedar23.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44F1Jy03Y5zBsg6; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 18:41:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.70]) by opfedar02.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44F1Jx6SSVzCqkM; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 18:41:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.31.32) by OPEXCAUBM33.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.13.70) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.435.0; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 18:41:21 +0100 Received: from [10.193.71.160] (10.168.234.6) by OPEXCLILM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.31.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.435.0; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 18:41:21 +0100 From: Organization: Orange To: "'draft-ietf-pce-association-group@ietf.org'" CC: "pce@ietf.org" Message-ID: <24183_1551894081_5C800641_24183_488_1_e6b8f6b7-dab8-017b-23e1-9cfff46dae8b@orange.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 18:40:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [10.168.234.6] Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Shepherd Review of draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 17:41:28 -0000 Hi authors, Please find below the comments to be resolved to move draft-ietf-pce-association-group forward. Most of them are editorial, so this looks promising. Thanks, Julien ------ Abstract --- - "LSP[s]" should be expanded at first use, all the more as it has 5 listed expansions in RFC Editor's dictionary (some of them being incorrect IMHO). ------ 1. Introduction --- - s/GMPLS- controlled/GMPLS-controlled/ ------ 2. Terminology --- - When importing definitions, PCEP messages are sometimes referred to as "Full Phrase" (e.g. "LSP State Report", "LSP Update Request"), sometimes as "PCAbbrev" (e.g. PCReq, PCRep, PCInitiate). Consistency among imports would be welcome, combining both ways may be the easiest (e.g. "LSP Update Request/PCUpd"). ------ 3.1. Motivation --- - OLD    Stateful PCE provides the ability to update existing LSPs and to    instantiate new ones. To enable support for PCE-controlled make-    before-break and for protection...   NEW    Stateful PCE provides the ability to update existing LSPs and to    instantiate new ones. There are various situations where several    LSPs need to share common information. E.g., to support for    PCE-controlled make-before-break and for protection... - s/working and protections LSPs/working and protection LSPs/ - s/tunnel. Whereas some/tunnel, whereas some/ - s/some association could/some associations could/ - s/policy based association/policy-based association/ ------ 3.2. Relationship with the SVEC List --- - s/are quite different./are quite different, though some use case may overlap./ - s/association type, should/association type should/ ------ 3.3.  Operation Overview --- - s/Whereas, some/Whereas some/ - s/The association are/The associations are/ - s/LSP state clean up/LSP state clean-up/ ------ 3.4. Operator-configured Association Range --- - OLD    it is necessary to configure a range of association identifiers that    are marked for operator-configured associations to avoid any    association identifier clash within the scope of the association    source.   NEW    it is necessary to distinguish a range of association identifiers that    are marked for operator-configured associations to avoid any    association identifier clash within the scope of the association    source. This document assumes that these 2 ranges are configured. ------ 4.1.1. Procedure --- - OLD    The PCEP    speaker could still use the ASSOCIATION object, if the peer does not    support the association, it would react as per the procedure    described in Section 6.4.   NEW    In this case, the PCEP    speaker could still use the ASSOCIATION object: if the peer does not    support the association, it will react as per the procedure described    in Section 6.4. - s/a association type/an association type/ - s/that specify/that specifies/ - The last sentence of the paragraph puzzled me a bit. The current wording may suggests that "it is RECOMMENDED to support the aforementioned OPTIONAL TLV", which is inconsistent 2119 language. My guess is that it should say: "In case the use of the ASSOC-Type-List TLV is triggered by a mandatory association type, then it is RECOMMENDED that the PCEP implementation include..." Is my understanding correct? ------ 5.1. Procedure --- - s/In which case/In this case/ - s/would be applied./applies./ - s/the Assoc-Type/the Assoc-type/ - s/carry overlapping range/carry overlapping ranges/ - s/an association-type/an association type/ - s/receives overlapping range/receives overlapping ranges/ - s/for the association type/for an association type/ - The current text only indirectly tackles the case where a given Assoc-type is advertised multiple times, when forbidding overlapping ranges. A complementary sentence explicitly mentioning non-overlapping ranges would be welcome. - OLD    In case, there is an operator-configured association that was    configured with association parameters (such as association    identifier, association type and association source) at the local    PCEP speaker, later the PCEP session gets established with the    association source and a new operator-configured range is learned    during session establishment. At this time...   NEW    There may be cases where an operator-configured association was    configured with association parameters (such as association    identifier, association type and association source) at the local    PCEP speaker, and later the PCEP session gets established with the    association source and a new operator-configured range is learned    during session establishment. At this time... - s/that were not/that are not/ - s/new operator configured range/new operator-configured range/ - s/removing any LSPs/disassociating any LSPs/ - s/an operator configured association/an operator-configured association/ ------ 6.1.  Object Definition --- - s/The value 0xffff and 0x0/The values 0xffff and 0x0/ ------ 6.1.3.  Association Source --- - s/node that originate/node that originates/ - OLD    set the source as virtual IP which identify all instances of PCE   NEW    set the source as a virtual IP address which identifies all instances of the PCE - s/operator configured association/operator-configured association/ ------ 6.2.  Relationship with the RSVP ASSOCIATION --- - s/defined in this document, is/defined in this document is/ - s/extensions that defines/extensions that define/ - s/new association type/new association types/ - s/PCEP association/PCEP associations/ - s/RSVP association/RSVP associations/ ------ 6.3.1.  Stateful PCEP messages --- - s/Unless, a PCEP speaker/Unless a PCEP speaker/ - s/a new LSP, can/a new LSP can/ ------ 6.3.2.  Request Message --- - s/In case of passive stateful or stateless PCE/In case of passive (stateful or stateless) PCE/ - s/Note that LSP object/Note that the LSP object/ ------ 6.3.3.  Reply Message --- - s/In case of passive stateful or stateless PCE/In case of passive (stateful or stateless) PCE/ - s/PCRep message, indicates/PCRep message indicates/ - s/Note that LSP object/Note that the LSP object/ ------ 6.4.  Processing Rules --- - s/The operator configured association is/The operator-configured associations are/ - s/these configured association/these configured associations/ - s/The dynamic association are/The dynamic associations are/ - s/The association groups is/The association group is/ - s/is combination of/is the combination of/ - s/identifier that uniquely identify/identifiers that uniquely identify/ - s/These number/These numbers/ - s/receives ASSOCIATION object/receives an ASSOCIATION object/ - s/an operator configured association/an operator-configured association/ - s/the association-type and association source/the Association type and Association Source/ - s/local operator configured information/local operator-configured information/ - s/receives ASSOCIATION object with R bit set/receives an ASSOCIATION object with the R bit set/ ------ 7.  IANA Considerations --- - s/"PCEP TLV Type Indicators registry"/"PCEP TLV Type Indicators" registry/ - s/future document should /future documents should/ ------ 9.  Manageability Considerations --- - "On" in section titles 9.5 and 9.6 may remain in lower case (RFC Editor's job?). ------ 12.  References --- - I do not believe that RFC 8253 is really normative here (only appears in manageability section and may lie next to RFC 7525 in informative references). The same for RFC 8126. ------ Appendix A. --- - I am not comfortable with reading ranges in round brackets. Have square brackets been considered? - s/Consider that because/Consider that, because/ - s/where as/, whereas/  [twice] - s/a operator configured association/an operator-configured association/ - s/with PCC as/with the PCC as/ - s/if PCE is/if the PCE is/ - I am not sure about the meaning of the sentence "not PCC or PCE as set as NMS id", please rephrase. ------ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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From nobody Wed Mar 6 14:35:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5758130EF3; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: db3546@att.com, draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp@ietf.org, Adrian Farrel , pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org, adrian@olddog.co.uk Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Message-ID: <155191174173.14059.14031199497100169481.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 14:35:41 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Last Call: (Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 22:35:43 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to consider the following document: - 'Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE usage for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-03-20. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The Path Computation Element (PCE) has been identified as an appropriate technology for the determination of the paths of point- to-multipoint (P2MP) TE Label Switched Paths (LSPs). This document provides extensions required for Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in supporting P2MP TE LSPs. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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Thu, 7 Mar 2019 01:28:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155195088692.15979.9925566874860089328@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 01:28:06 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 09:28:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Applicability of the Path Computation Element (PCE) to the Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) Authors : Dhruv Dhody Young Lee Daniele Ceccarelli Filename : draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-09.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2019-03-07 Abstract: Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) refers to the set of virtual network (VN) operations needed to orchestrate, control and manage large-scale multi-domain TE networks so as to facilitate network programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and end-to-end virtual service aware connectivity and network function virtualization services. The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a component, application, or network node that is capable of computing a network path or route based on a network graph and applying computational constraints. The PCE serves requests from Path Computation Clients (PCCs) that communicate with it over a local API or using the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP). This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN framework. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Mar 7 01:36:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8AF1312CF for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 01:36:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id No9guWI-ktwh for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 01:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 750F01312EC for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 01:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 47B3319DEB94FB81FD6B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 09:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from BLREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.41) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 09:36:09 +0000 Received: from BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.9.39]) by BLREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.20.4.41]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:05:59 +0530 From: Dhruv Dhody To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn Thread-Index: AdTNBpZRkOR5MbAeQ3egoZ3erEHxzQHwboZw Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 09:35:58 +0000 Message-ID: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F518@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <014801d4cd09$39d95090$ad8bf1b0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <014801d4cd09$39d95090$ad8bf1b0$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-GB, zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.149.39] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 09:36:15 -0000 Hi Adrian, WG,=20 We have posted a new version -09 that addresses WG LC comments (from Adrian= and Dan).=20 I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn= -09 Please have a look and let us know if any further changes needs to be made.= =20 Thanks!=20 Dhruv, Young & Daniele -- Dhruv Dhody=20 Lead Architect Network Business Line Huawei Technologies India Pvt. 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If you receive this e-mail in error, please not= ify the sender by=20 phone or email immediately and delete it! > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 25 February 2019 18:24 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability- > actn >=20 > Hi, >=20 > The WG last call completed without any dissent, but with only a few > comments of support. >=20 > There were some issues raised (including from Dan and me). >=20 > Authors: > Please post a revision that addresses the comments. >=20 > Working Group: > Please continue to send messages of support so that we know that this > draft really should be advanced. >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 08 February 2019 11:34 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn >=20 > Hi WG, >=20 > draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn seems to be ready to progress towards > publication. >=20 > This email starts a two week working group last call (ends on 23rd > February). >=20 > During this time, please read the draft and make comments for improvement= . > If you then support its publication please let us know that you have read > the draft and support it. If you have any concerns, please let us know an= d > propose solutions. >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Thu Mar 7 05:15:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC081313F5; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 05:15:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.291 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.291 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N-ElgY1fDsoL; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 05:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from orange.com (mta135.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.70.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1272131323; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 05:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfednr00.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.64]) by opfednr22.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44FWMK1Pnjz1094; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.38]) by opfednr00.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44FWMK0P4SzDq7S; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.31.32) by OPEXCAUBM5C.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.13.38) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.439.0; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:08 +0100 Received: from [10.193.71.36] (10.168.234.2) by OPEXCLILM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.31.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.439.0; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:08 +0100 To: Dhruv Dhody CC: "'draft-ietf-pce-association-group@ietf.org'" , "pce@ietf.org" References: <24183_1551894081_5C800641_24183_488_1_e6b8f6b7-dab8-017b-23e1-9 cfff46dae8b@orange.com> <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F3A8@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: Organization: Orange Message-ID: <31851_1551964509_5C81195D_31851_180_1_9c86f0ca-264c-1ca2-b610-fa9f468a0d49@orange.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:13:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F3A8@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [10.168.234.2] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Shepherd Review of draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 13:15:15 -0000 Hi Dhruv, Congratulation from the prompt update. I'm fine with the notation for ranges. The only open issue is the text you add below: - Is there a reason to prohibit, for a given Association type, split operator-configured ranges? I don't think this is what the original version suggested. - Assuming we proceed with this new rule, then why so much text about overlapping ranges? To have this happen, the TLV would already break that "present only once" rule: why would an implementation care about checking if ranges overlap if the TLV is already wrong? Thanks, Julien On 07/03/2019 09:28, Dhruv Dhody wrote: >> ------ >> 5.1. Procedure >> --- >> - The current text only indirectly tackles the case where a given Assoc- >> type is advertised multiple times, when forbidding overlapping ranges. A >> complementary sentence explicitly mentioning non-overlapping ranges would >> be welcome. > [[Dhruv Dhody]] Added - > > An Assoc-Type MUST be present only once in the OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE > TLV, if the same Assoc-Type is present more than once, the PCEP > session MUST be rejected with error type 1 and error value 1 (PCEP > session establishment failure / Reception of an invalid Open > message). > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. 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From nobody Thu Mar 7 06:01:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0927C127981; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 06:01:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O0Q-a7oPsA68; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 06:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-it1-x12c.google.com (mail-it1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 584E4124184; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 06:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-it1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id d125so8000952ith.1; Thu, 07 Mar 2019 06:01:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3SfUtiD56tMT52/AUQgk9mucAr7vHaAhtjWDTWYPdzk=; b=rktNzw7aeCiD4z+1nKretEKdeV3g9kWPo5weTT8nyei/5fnJtOyHzv1fxNzKd7xb4d h82LyEO33bBuCsrTBEUHTUdeGy8qV2ukbUhl3mlyDJBMyQWoYj6IimaQgNTkJyj+zDk/ Fzn3tXyy24co3whoAiA/o3srgLVi0P4k6wtxX2VcJb89mzV8adejU4cNEgBcmSAzBc3T PSf8hSS6WhJAruEJIAfEFQOwXeci8LNaehj0JB+utgdmpaYa0GHmygKaLLHf1tHhJPBe Rkc7snqrumvTH2takzCR1ceeWQl/hjT71WuOoPPE8XoEBMQ3I1NDZLT1uMbN77Ku/5WJ Xbbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3SfUtiD56tMT52/AUQgk9mucAr7vHaAhtjWDTWYPdzk=; b=SRH5Jh7H5DahXn+BTzAeZd7oS8N3TF4Vj8rHfaS5C875htiAteLyI2qP8cZUFIyy6d BevSjYJKgfo4JWmoqh3IBdziDrZwKRKXYPH/H0gZsOxsLhVgwl7Ojv61ns8W6R+a2AXY ghXTVc9Tv8JAgCb97Lul39F4fI0pIK3b7gCUuXVQpO1k/Yd8lVj9z4WxU5wmC22v4uEm Y6rEGRHFFtskbpOEVaEoicgmcgvCXs/FkLIoDk04xOCiV/VvTVbhGiJeWYHQbBa/X782 Xa784OueVW9VuIbNW7AlXOWEtn2zksqoX3KLWAqhxj59DO3G1ygcs6J/GF+69uzFXct8 sY1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUbT5hP0SKs3x6U9RDt1IfBqDbojYjos5lNQLSmhGM9XgVCy/JN Vg7JBconBnWR1gzt4Yr0jwO5D8kwH7MHXqTZHic= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzYnrQ0UW+HCyNRpURWHp+PARQEWMK0gGd+IA2/weOdJu+uu4tqFf3LC+EYGhVtR0lkcALKZGWM9tRYg0AZiIo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:660c:30b:: with SMTP id u11mr5132506itj.67.1551967282381; Thu, 07 Mar 2019 06:01:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F3A8@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> <31851_1551964509_5C81195D_31851_180_1_9c86f0ca-264c-1ca2-b610-fa9f468a0d49@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <31851_1551964509_5C81195D_31851_180_1_9c86f0ca-264c-1ca2-b610-fa9f468a0d49@orange.com> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 19:30:46 +0530 Message-ID: To: Julien Meuric Cc: Dhruv Dhody , "draft-ietf-pce-association-group@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000091c7da0583818aca" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Shepherd Review of draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 14:01:26 -0000 --00000000000091c7da0583818aca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Julien, My bad! I did some digging and we added this based on Adrian's comment [1] back in Feb last year (and my memory failed me). How about - The Assoc-type MAY appear more than once in the OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE TLV in the case of a non-contiguous Operator-configured Association Range. The PCEP speaker originating this TLV MUST NOT carry overlapping ranges for an association type. If a PCEP peer receives overlapping ranges for an association type, it MUST consider the Open message malformed and MUST reject the PCEP session with error type 1 and error value 1 (PCEP session establishment failure / Reception of an invalid Open message). Thanks! Dhruv [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/QSobS2pul-lIlMLXV4KcBhwgBM0 On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:45 PM wrote: > Hi Dhruv, > > Congratulation from the prompt update. I'm fine with the notation > for ranges. > > The only open issue is the text you add below: > - Is there a reason to prohibit, for a given Association type, split > operator-configured ranges? I don't think this is what the original > version suggested. > - Assuming we proceed with this new rule, then why so much text about > overlapping ranges? To have this happen, the TLV would already break > that "present only once" rule: why would an implementation care about > checking if ranges overlap if the TLV is already wrong? > > Thanks, > > Julien > > > On 07/03/2019 09:28, Dhruv Dhody wrote: > >> ------ > >> 5.1. Procedure > >> --- > >> - The current text only indirectly tackles the case where a given Assoc- > >> type is advertised multiple times, when forbidding overlapping ranges. A > >> complementary sentence explicitly mentioning non-overlapping ranges > would > >> be welcome. > > [[Dhruv Dhody]] Added - > > > > An Assoc-Type MUST be present only once in the OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE > > TLV, if the same Assoc-Type is present more than once, the PCEP > > session MUST be rejected with error type 1 and error value 1 (PCEP > > session establishment failure / Reception of an invalid Open > > message). > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez > recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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Hi Julien,= =C2=A0

My bad!=C2=A0
I did some digging and we added this based on = Adrian's comment [1] back in Feb last year (and my memory failed me).= =C2=A0

How about -=C2=A0

=C2=A0 = =C2=A0The Assoc-type MAY appear more than once in the OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0TLV in the case of a non-cont= iguous Operator-configured Association
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Range.=C2=A0 The PCEP speaker originating this TLV MUST NOT ca= rry
=C2=A0 =C2=A0overlapping ranges for a= n association type.=C2=A0 If a PCEP peer receives
=C2=A0 =C2=A0overlapping ranges for an association type, it MUST c= onsider the Open
=C2=A0 =C2=A0message mal= formed and MUST reject the PCEP session with error type 1
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and error value 1 (PCEP session establishme= nt failure / Reception of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0an= invalid Open message).

Thanks!=C2=A0
Dhruv=C2=A0

=
[1]= =C2=A0https://mailarchive.ietf.org/a= rch/msg/pce/QSobS2pul-lIlMLXV4KcBhwgBM0
<= /div>
O= n Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:45 PM <julien.meuric@orange.com> wrote:
Hi Dhruv,

Congratulation from the prompt update. I'm fine with the <a, b> n= otation
for ranges.

The only open issue is the text you add below:
- Is there a reason to prohibit, for a given Association type, split
operator-configured ranges? I don't think this is what the original
version suggested.
- Assuming we proceed with this new rule, then why so much text about
overlapping ranges? To have this happen, the TLV would already break
that "present only once" rule: why would an implementation care a= bout
checking if ranges overlap if the TLV is already wrong?

Thanks,

Julien


On 07/03/2019 09:28, Dhruv Dhody wrote:
>> ------
>> 5.1. Procedure
>> ---
>> - The current text only indirectly tackles the case where a given = Assoc-
>> type is advertised multiple times, when forbidding overlapping ran= ges. A
>> complementary sentence explicitly mentioning non-overlapping range= s would
>> be welcome.
> [[Dhruv Dhody]] Added -
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 An Assoc-Type MUST be present only once in the OP-CONF-AS= SOC-RANGE
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV, if the same Assoc-Type is present more than once, th= e PCEP
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 session MUST be rejected with error type 1 and error valu= e 1 (PCEP
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 session establishment failure / Reception of an invalid O= pen
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 message).
>

___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________

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a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les message= s electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,
Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci.

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[73.189.13.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w17sm8104602pfn.63.2019.03.07.07.17.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Mar 2019 07:17:06 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jeff Tantsura X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16D57) In-Reply-To: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F518@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 07:17:05 -0800 Cc: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "pce@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8B39F673-35A4-4002-9D6C-20502B24FAF3@gmail.com> References: <014801d4cd09$39d95090$ad8bf1b0$@olddog.co.uk> <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F518@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> To: Dhruv Dhody Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:17:14 -0000 Yes/support Cheers, Jeff > On Mar 7, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Dhruv Dhody wrote: >=20 > Hi Adrian, WG,=20 >=20 > We have posted a new version -09 that addresses WG LC comments (from Adria= n and Dan).=20 >=20 > I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-applicability-act= n-09 >=20 > Please have a look and let us know if any further changes needs to be made= .=20 >=20 > Thanks!=20 > Dhruv, Young & Daniele >=20 > -- > Dhruv Dhody=20 > Lead Architect > Network Business Line > Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd. > Survey No. 37, Next to EPIP Area, Kundalahalli, Whitefield > Bengaluru, Karnataka - 560066=20 > Tel: + 91-80-49160700 Ext 71583 II Email: dhruv.dhody@huawei.com >=20 > This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAW= EI, which=20 > is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. A= ny use of the=20 > information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, to= tal or partial=20 > disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the inte= nded=20 > recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please no= tify the sender by=20 > phone or email immediately and delete it! >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel >> Sent: 25 February 2019 18:24 >> To: pce@ietf.org >> Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability- >> actn >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> The WG last call completed without any dissent, but with only a few >> comments of support. >>=20 >> There were some issues raised (including from Dan and me). >>=20 >> Authors: >> Please post a revision that addresses the comments. >>=20 >> Working Group: >> Please continue to send messages of support so that we know that this >> draft really should be advanced. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Adrian >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pce On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel >> Sent: 08 February 2019 11:34 >> To: pce@ietf.org >> Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn >>=20 >> Hi WG, >>=20 >> draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn seems to be ready to progress towards >> publication. >>=20 >> This email starts a two week working group last call (ends on 23rd >> February). >>=20 >> During this time, please read the draft and make comments for improvement= . >> If you then support its publication please let us know that you have read= >> the draft and support it. If you have any concerns, please let us know an= d >> propose solutions. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Adrian >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pce mailing list >> Pce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pce mailing list >> Pce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Thu Mar 7 08:21:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CE61314AE; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:21:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GPF0DSpmO6xs; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from orange.com (mta239.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.66.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F77B1314AB; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfedar06.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.8]) by opfedar26.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44FbTw6CW8zFqWP; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:21:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.23]) by opfedar06.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44FbTw5Vvmz3wbD; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:21:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.31.32) by OPEXCAUBM41.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.13.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.439.0; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:21:08 +0100 Received: from [10.193.71.36] (10.168.234.2) by OPEXCLILM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.31.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.439.0; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:21:08 +0100 To: Dhruv Dhody CC: Dhruv Dhody , "draft-ietf-pce-association-group@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" References: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F3A8@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> <31851_1551964509_5C81195D_31851_180_1_9c86f0ca-264c-1ca2-b610-fa9f468a0d49@orange.com> From: Organization: Orange Message-ID: <13422_1551975668_5C8144F4_13422_6_1_03ee1c89-8ee9-2c83-b38e-07c0abcfb916@orange.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:19:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [10.168.234.2] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Shepherd Review of draft-ietf-pce-association-group-06 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 16:21:12 -0000 This sentence is clear enough to address my concern. Thank you! Julien On 07/03/2019 15:00, Dhruv Dhody wrote: > Hi Julien,  > > My bad!  > I did some digging and we added this based on Adrian's comment [1] > back in Feb last year (and my memory failed me).  > > How about -  > >    The Assoc-type MAY appear more than once in the OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE >    TLV in the case of a non-contiguous Operator-configured Association >    Range.  The PCEP speaker originating this TLV MUST NOT carry >    overlapping ranges for an association type.  If a PCEP peer receives >    overlapping ranges for an association type, it MUST consider the Open >    message malformed and MUST reject the PCEP session with error type 1 >    and error value 1 (PCEP session establishment failure / Reception of >    an invalid Open message). > > Thanks!  > Dhruv  > > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/QSobS2pul-lIlMLXV4KcBhwgBM0 > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:45 PM > wrote: > > Hi Dhruv, > > Congratulation from the prompt update. I'm fine with the > notation > for ranges. > > The only open issue is the text you add below: > - Is there a reason to prohibit, for a given Association type, split > operator-configured ranges? I don't think this is what the original > version suggested. > - Assuming we proceed with this new rule, then why so much text about > overlapping ranges? To have this happen, the TLV would already break > that "present only once" rule: why would an implementation care about > checking if ranges overlap if the TLV is already wrong? > > Thanks, > > Julien > > > On 07/03/2019 09:28, Dhruv Dhody wrote: > >> ------ > >> 5.1. Procedure > >> --- > >> - The current text only indirectly tackles the case where a > given Assoc- > >> type is advertised multiple times, when forbidding overlapping > ranges. A > >> complementary sentence explicitly mentioning non-overlapping > ranges would > >> be welcome. > > [[Dhruv Dhody]] Added - > > > >    An Assoc-Type MUST be present only once in the > OP-CONF-ASSOC-RANGE > >    TLV, if the same Assoc-Type is present more than once, the PCEP > >    session MUST be rejected with error type 1 and error value 1 > (PCEP > >    session establishment failure / Reception of an invalid Open > >    message). > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous > avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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From nobody Thu Mar 7 08:23:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1358B1277E7; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:23:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155197582504.24840.10338461376215425515@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 08:23:45 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 16:23:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs Authors : Ina Minei Edward Crabbe Siva Sivabalan Hariharan Ananthakrishnan Dhruv Dhody Yosuke Tanaka Filename : draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2019-03-07 Abstract: This document introduces a generic mechanism to create a grouping of Label Switched Paths (LSPs) in the context of a Path Computation Element (PCE). This grouping can then be used to define associations between sets of LSPs or between a set of LSPs and a set of attributes (such as configuration parameters or behaviors), and is equally applicable to the stateful PCE (active and passive modes) as well as the stateless PCE. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-association-group/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Mar 7 14:05:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BF3130FF3 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:05:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Y4Xhe91Tt8F for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0491275E9 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x27M58ar022795; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:08 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id F321B22040; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.224]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE13A2203A; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x27M56i6019460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:07 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Dhruv Dhody'" , References: <014801d4cd09$39d95090$ad8bf1b0$@olddog.co.uk> <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F518@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D98F518@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:05 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <024301d4d531$d2cf45e0$786dd1a0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQJXZwAK3nZCJvKmeTZgrukU3hzQ6gG5KtMapO3HC8A= X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24476.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--42.845-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--42.845-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24476.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--42.845400-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 0+daXaNUWRXxIbpQ8BhdbOYAh37ZsBDCLdLfmiFS7ftCL1p58ZQxn0wg jjTThA8uqfCLrIKbnQe5umsXDIi6z9nQBq2BQ+xK+z2c4lioPkjMmaoHJ8BpLWsxtqQk3w55WTF H84r4cDR57ZYuKFtimLUgR5rL9nDhpEk2fX0zq+++NtCxbjBfhmEF8bGZ0cKC+yNYYwngrxaW9v TNbx/R71duc5ajMGS0zde2f0e2yRxp71qAvI563riMC5wdwKqdvEICvPaG1Y93pEVETu8p8TlDc Jcynv4c4ECEiSykO9EvHF3UcZ9l9GC+RjBytve0ysTdXzwb9+ERAd26BrSMwtF/eYSxPbFqK45O foCyCN9xk2y+bfAY1/LJyTcGVwBcSxeNzJ2PHZYwiJTf3kjwfVAI6wCVrE3v/fLu9P6UfRpnjvd C/LTmeu1rRgHabQIprUxeW9fFbgPGY41jh5k39jiU1nXLlwv+3Dm7Ebb7HTKiUP5F9sCEMNLuX2 hj/M7UAQNYtMFCSG3F6+8r30DovL+gVyuD/4tWCFaAixm5eU+3p9ZMVj5EGQ2G3vz8l/IEcL0DJ V0JAiG/pacDp5bKTeBe0f4Css2cnNhz2JX0cKaQmLXB14cW2guK1hIitSIH51ONI4UL++qjxYyR Ba/qJX3mXSdV7KK4WKD2QKkwR8Iv7bm8B5Akl5uTdmBzA9G/FzCceANpH4cLbigRnpKlKSBuGJW wgxArFnn7zLfna4I= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:05:18 -0000 Hi, Thanks for this revision which is practically perfect. Sadly, the RFC Editor requires that the first section of a document is the Introduction. I think it would be fine to swap your sections 1 and 2. You asked me at the end of February to have a look at your proposed Security text, and I have done now. I think you have gone a long way towards doing the right thing, and I'm comfortable with the idea of putting this in front of the Security experts. You need to post a quick update to swap the first two sections. While you do that I'll write the Shepherd Write-up. Then we will ask the AD to advance it. Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: 07 March 2019 09:36 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; pce@ietf.org Cc: Dhruv Dhody Subject: RE: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn Hi Adrian, WG, We have posted a new version -09 that addresses WG LC comments (from Adrian and Dan). I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-09 Please have a look and let us know if any further changes needs to be made. Thanks! Dhruv, Young & Daniele -- Dhruv Dhody Lead Architect Network Business Line Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd. Survey No. 37, Next to EPIP Area, Kundalahalli, Whitefield Bengaluru, Karnataka - 560066 Tel: + 91-80-49160700 Ext 71583 II Email: dhruv.dhody@huawei.com This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by phone or email immediately and delete it! > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 25 February 2019 18:24 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call completed for draft-ietf-pce-applicability- > actn > > Hi, > > The WG last call completed without any dissent, but with only a few > comments of support. > > There were some issues raised (including from Dan and me). > > Authors: > Please post a revision that addresses the comments. > > Working Group: > Please continue to send messages of support so that we know that this > draft really should be advanced. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 08 February 2019 11:34 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn > > Hi WG, > > draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn seems to be ready to progress towards > publication. > > This email starts a two week working group last call (ends on 23rd > February). > > During this time, please read the draft and make comments for improvement. > If you then support its publication please let us know that you have read > the draft and support it. If you have any concerns, please let us know and > propose solutions. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Thu Mar 7 14:15:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCB3130E3F; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uhaw2D4NHk2A; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2038B1275E9; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x27MFL0u025226; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:15:21 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422972203A; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:15:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CC9C22040; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:15:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x27MFGYI019312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:15:19 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: References: <154402349873.31821.13107895204708329923@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0A0397@SJCEML521-MBB.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:15:15 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <024901d4d533$40064c70$c012e550$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQJ5HsaGUAFUHrre8zIvZdw/W1IO9gNE4vECpA0nxgCAkNdTEA== X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24476.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--27.883-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--27.883-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24476.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--27.883000-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: Ync95tbzDRnxIbpQ8BhdbFaOpp/sV5nVfkuZtv/FS5qpDYpwenwl3sRk oeJ3OFRcdbpn5M8dl7StH1JCnyfZ3ATI9DBbkEFqlVHM/F6YkvT4h+uI7dxXxIie9XwPLRloPQl KJ9DUxnmHeJ0g3+bNtrmUmA7ZgxO6jxmC4zinH8q3UCG/IQp2PgBzfxM7vRJx31GU/N5W5BDKLF DEUPs4B7TprHww9+lPHrOgDJjeshg7j/Cza4otbEKcYi5Qw/RVSFd9bf3igvIaUFNX+UFygE4jN JLe3jaODvmn4Q5AnLuRapuWRw4cjdphB3BcQx/vW7gz/Gbgpl6p7eIcybi6oW9GQSjX9nZlQ8i8 hBbP7fp3C9HG9KjGHAvob7UuBU/LieI3P3QUQjoS7luGt6tlhiDPOgHqOrGCxSeaLFC4CHlKeG8 DXlTPDvbmUJBrlXZ6oE6wcn3IprgHzljm8jkYRRK6EFc0lvV0OFrEjYh/1F7IvQIyugvKdf6Qku R+7My98X9p6Arq56mHKl4uhhr4r6R59JeT+K51USn3o+eoUmwsCc2iFTIxreTeXPZ7XTtf1HUgt 2KmAEeZrwXPdhqNzMhoHwmSCBo0cl4EdHnAHX0OrlBkQa9qFj98dreaYAEyjNnoU1fopotopS6Z JZnGy0JcPZLX2CU9s0YUaqjPJKg1mZQymqFVsIdlc1JaOB1T9pLnYtQ99xLa21op9/Ot3yyB2Qd JzFQxsp1IQ9rZ0hIrOi92xWTzwX+OhC1J6Q0sngIgpj8eDcC063Wh9WVqgqbyPFGTn+O45z5fN7 is6rUojRtIBR+kcN0H8LFZNFG7JQhrLH5KSJ0= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:15:29 -0000 Hi authors, Unless I am mistaken, there was never a response to my review back in December. Did it get lost (I see it in the list archive)? Plans? Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: 05 December 2018 18:17 To: 'Leeyoung' ; 'pce@ietf.org' Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt While I'm on a roll reviewing PCE documents, and while Young is being active, I just had a look at his new revision on this draft. Glad that it is alive again because we seem to have a number of documents that relate to it. Only a few comments, but I think tidying these gets us close to "done". Thanks, Adrian === You should move "Conventions used in this document" down to become Section 2 and replace it with the new text... The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. That requires you to make an addition to the normative references for RFC 8174. --- 2. OLD For Passive Stateful PCE where PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instruction. As GMPLS-technology specific Objects/TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], this document just points to the work in [PCEP-GMPLS] and add only the stateful PCE aspect only if applicable. NEW For Passive Stateful PCEs, PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instructions. GMPLS-technology specific Objects and TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], so this document just points at that work and only adds the stateful PCE aspects where applicable. END --- 4.2 You have "ERO object" and "RRO object". That would be EROO and RROO? I think that if you expand the terms on first use, then the use of the abbreviations will be easier. In the same section you have IRO and XRO which you should expand. --- 4.2 needs a reference to RFC 5511. I suggest... OLD To be more specific, the is updated as follows: NEW To be more specific, the is updated as follows using the notation of [RFC5511]: END Obviously, you need to add that to the references section as well. --- At the end of 4.2 you have Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, this SHOULD to be synchronized to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. Reviewers are likely to ask "under what circumstances can an implementation vary this procedure and why?" You may also get asked about the use of the passive voice in this sentence. Who should synchonise it to the stateful PCE? --- The final sentence of 4.3 says... Note this MAY also be applicable to packet networks. I think probably s/MAY also be/is also/ --- 4.3.2 You rightly say... X bit and Attribute fields are defined in [RFC5521]. So you can safely (should) delete ... X bit: indicates whether the exclusion is mandatory (X=1) and MUST be accommodated, or desired (X=0) and SHOULD be accommodated. ... and ... Attributes: indicates how the exclusion object is to be interpreted. Currently, Interface (Attributes = 0), Node (Attributes =1) and SRLG (Attributes =2) are defined in [RFC5521] and this document does not define new values. --- 4.3.2 s/a LSP/an LSP/ --- 4.3.2 s/exclude it from the/exclude from the/ --- I'm trying to reconcile 4.3.3 with 5.3. The problems are: - 5.3 "new registry" but I think the registry already exists - 5.3 (correctly) says that the new bit position is TBD allowing IANA to make the best selection, but Figure 3 shows a specific position for the B-bit I would replace the text in the two sections as follows... 4.3.3 OLD The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231] and included here for easy reference with the addition of the new B flag. This SRP object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Flags |B|R| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SRP-ID-number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | // Optional TLVs // | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 3: The SRP Object Format A new flag is defined to indicate a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. NEW The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231]. The object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. This document defines a new flag to be carried in the Flags field of the SRP object. This flag indicates a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE as follows: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. The bit position is TBD5 as assigned by IANA (see Section 5.3) END 5.3 OLD IANA has created a new subregistry, named "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. New values are to be assigned by Standards Action [RFC8126]. Each bit is tracked with the following qualities: bit number (counting from bit 0 as the most significant bit), description, and defining RFC. The following values are defined in this document: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] NEW IANA maintains a subregistry, named the "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. IANA is requested to make an assignment from this registry as follows: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB5 Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] END --- Section 5 has IANA is requested to allocate new Types for the TLV/Object defined in this document. I think you should delete that text. It doesn't seem to belong to this document. --- 6. s/presented in the next sections./presented in the next section./ -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Leeyoung Sent: 05 December 2018 17:21 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Hi, Just to revive the expired WG draft. Sorry that we slipped this one. Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:25 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-12-05 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Thu Mar 7 15:50:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E9313103D; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:50:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IKYoa12uHytk; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9370312DF71; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id C4D97354F465CD4A91F1; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 23:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 23:50:39 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.96]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.135]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:50:35 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls@ietf.org" CC: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Thread-Index: AQJ5HsaGUAFUHrre8zIvZdw/W1IO9gNE4vECpA0nxgCAkNdTEIAAHNBg Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 23:50:34 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0ED95E@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <154402349873.31821.13107895204708329923@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0A0397@SJCEML521-MBB.china.huawei.com> <024901d4d533$40064c70$c012e550$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <024901d4d533$40064c70$c012e550$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.212.247.72] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 23:50:45 -0000 Hi Adrian, Please take my/our apology for the delayed response. I am working on it now= , hopefully we can upload the revision either today or by tomorrow.=20 Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:15 PM To: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.tx= t Hi authors, Unless I am mistaken, there was never a response to my review back in Decem= ber. Did it get lost (I see it in the list archive)? Plans? Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: 05 December 2018 18:17 To: 'Leeyoung' ; 'pce@ietf.org' Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.tx= t While I'm on a roll reviewing PCE documents, and while Young is being activ= e, I just had a look at his new revision on this draft. Glad that it is alive again because we seem to have a number of documents t= hat relate to it. Only a few comments, but I think tidying these gets us close to "done". Thanks, Adrian =3D=3D=3D You should move "Conventions used in this document" down to become Section = 2 and replace it with the new text... The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. That requires you to make an addition to the normative references for RFC 8= 174. --- 2. OLD For Passive Stateful PCE where PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instruction. As GMPLS-technology specific Objects/TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], this document just points to the work in [PCEP-GMPLS] and add only the stateful PCE aspect only if applicable. NEW For Passive Stateful PCEs, PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instructions. GMPLS-technology specific Objects and TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], so this document just points at that work and only adds the stateful PCE aspects where applicable. END --- 4.2 You have "ERO object" and "RRO object". That would be EROO and RROO? I think that if you expand the terms on first use, then the use of the abbr= eviations will be easier. In the same section you have IRO and XRO which you should expand. --- 4.2 needs a reference to RFC 5511. I suggest... OLD To be more specific, the is updated as follows: NEW To be more specific, the is updated as follows using the notation of [RFC5511]: END Obviously, you need to add that to the references section as well. --- At the end of 4.2 you have Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, this SHOULD to be synchronized to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. Reviewers are likely to ask "under what circumstances can an implementation= vary this procedure and why?" You may also get asked about the use of the passive voice in this sentence.= Who should synchonise it to the stateful PCE? --- The final sentence of 4.3 says... Note this MAY also be applicable to packet networks. I think probably s/MAY also be/is also/ --- 4.3.2 You rightly say... X bit and Attribute fields are defined in [RFC5521]. So you can safely (should) delete ... X bit: indicates whether the exclusion is mandatory (X=3D1) and MUST be accommodated, or desired (X=3D0) and SHOULD be accommodated. ... and ... Attributes: indicates how the exclusion object is to be interpreted. Currently, Interface (Attributes =3D 0), Node (Attributes =3D1) and SRLG (Attributes =3D2) are defined in [RFC5521] and this document does not define new values. --- 4.3.2 s/a LSP/an LSP/ --- 4.3.2 s/exclude it from the/exclude from the/ --- I'm trying to reconcile 4.3.3 with 5.3. The problems are: - 5.3 "new registry" but I think the registry already exists - 5.3 (correctly) says that the new bit position is TBD allowing IANA to make the best selection, but Figure 3 shows a specific position for the B-bit I would replace the text in the two sections as follows... 4.3.3 OLD The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231] and included here for easy reference with the addition of the new B flag. This SRP object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Flags |B|R| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SRP-ID-number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | // Optional TLVs // | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 3: The SRP Object Format A new flag is defined to indicate a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. NEW The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231]. The object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. This document defines a new flag to be carried in the Flags field of the SRP object. This flag indicates a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE as follows: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. The bit position is TBD5 as assigned by IANA (see Section 5.3) END 5.3 OLD IANA has created a new subregistry, named "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. New values are to be assigned by Standards Action [RFC8126]. Each bit is tracked with the following qualities: bit number (counting from bit 0 as the most significant bit), description, and defining RFC. The following values are defined in this document: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] NEW IANA maintains a subregistry, named the "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. IANA is requested to make an assignment from this registry as follows: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB5 Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] END --- Section 5 has IANA is requested to allocate new Types for the TLV/Object defined in this document. I think you should delete that text. It doesn't seem to belong to this docu= ment. --- 6. s/presented in the next sections./presented in the next section./ -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Leeyoung Sent: 05 December 2018 17:21 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.tx= t Hi, Just to revive the expired WG draft. Sorry that we slipped this one.=20 Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.o= rg Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:25 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extension= s for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-12-05 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpl= s -09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-= 09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Thu Mar 7 16:58:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236B712008A; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 16:58:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155200669909.5398.10766150185981589477@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 16:58:19 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 00:58:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2019-03-07 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Mar 7 16:59:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1D21310D6; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 16:59:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_COMMENT_SAVED_URL=1.391, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kb2GiEXNuZBl; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 16:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC2A912008A; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 16:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 9FDF78B86218A66C63FA; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 00:59:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 00:59:18 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.96]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.10]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 16:59:12 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls@ietf.org" CC: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Thread-Index: AQJ5HsaGUAFUHrre8zIvZdw/W1IO9gNE4vECpA0nxgCAkNdTEIAAHXMg Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 00:59:12 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0ED9C8@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <154402349873.31821.13107895204708329923@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0A0397@SJCEML521-MBB.china.huawei.com> <024901d4d533$40064c70$c012e550$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <024901d4d533$40064c70$c012e550$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.212.247.72] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0ED9C8sjceml521mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 00:59:29 -0000 --_002_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0ED9C8sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adrian, Please see the diff file and my response inline (only those needed to comme= nt; all other comments of yours have been agreed and incorporated in the re= vision). Let us know if you have further comments. In the meantime, version= 10 has been published.=20 Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:15 PM To: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.tx= t Hi authors, Unless I am mistaken, there was never a response to my review back in Decem= ber. Did it get lost (I see it in the list archive)? Plans? Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: 05 December 2018 18:17 To: 'Leeyoung' ; 'pce@ietf.org' Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.tx= t While I'm on a roll reviewing PCE documents, and while Young is being activ= e, I just had a look at his new revision on this draft. Glad that it is alive again because we seem to have a number of documents t= hat relate to it. Only a few comments, but I think tidying these gets us close to "done". Thanks, Adrian =3D=3D=3D You should move "Conventions used in this document" down to become Section = 2 and replace it with the new text... The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. That requires you to make an addition to the normative references for RFC 8= 174. --- 2. OLD For Passive Stateful PCE where PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instruction. As GMPLS-technology specific Objects/TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], this document just points to the work in [PCEP-GMPLS] and add only the stateful PCE aspect only if applicable. NEW For Passive Stateful PCEs, PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instructions. GMPLS-technology specific Objects and TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], so this document just points at that work and only adds the stateful PCE aspects where applicable. END --- 4.2 You have "ERO object" and "RRO object". That would be EROO and RROO? I think that if you expand the terms on first use, then the use of the abbr= eviations will be easier. In the same section you have IRO and XRO which you should expand. --- 4.2 needs a reference to RFC 5511. I suggest... OLD To be more specific, the is updated as follows: NEW To be more specific, the is updated as follows using the notation of [RFC5511]: END Obviously, you need to add that to the references section as well. --- At the end of 4.2 you have Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, this SHOULD to be synchronized to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. Reviewers are likely to ask "under what circumstances can an implementation= vary this procedure and why?" You may also get asked about the use of the passive voice in this sentence.= Who should synchonise it to the stateful PCE? YL>> How about:=20 OLD: Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, this SHOULD to be synchronized to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. NEW:=20 Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operation= al to=20 operational, the PCC SHOULD synchronize the state change of the LSPs to t= he stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. This use case arises, for example, w= hen the protecting LSP becomes operational due to the failure of the primar= y LSP.=20 END. --- The final sentence of 4.3 says... Note this MAY also be applicable to packet networks. I think probably s/MAY also be/is also/ --- 4.3.2 You rightly say... X bit and Attribute fields are defined in [RFC5521]. So you can safely (should) delete ... X bit: indicates whether the exclusion is mandatory (X=3D1) and MUST be accommodated, or desired (X=3D0) and SHOULD be accommodated. ... and ... Attributes: indicates how the exclusion object is to be interpreted. Currently, Interface (Attributes =3D 0), Node (Attributes =3D1) and SRLG (Attributes =3D2) are defined in [RFC5521] and this document does not define new values. --- 4.3.2 s/a LSP/an LSP/ --- 4.3.2 s/exclude it from the/exclude from the/ --- I'm trying to reconcile 4.3.3 with 5.3. The problems are: - 5.3 "new registry" but I think the registry already exists - 5.3 (correctly) says that the new bit position is TBD allowing IANA to make the best selection, but Figure 3 shows a specific position for the B-bit I would replace the text in the two sections as follows... 4.3.3 OLD The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231] and included here for easy reference with the addition of the new B flag. This SRP object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Flags |B|R| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SRP-ID-number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | // Optional TLVs // | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 3: The SRP Object Format A new flag is defined to indicate a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. NEW The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231]. The object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. This document defines a new flag to be carried in the Flags field of the SRP object. This flag indicates a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE as follows: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. The bit position is TBD5 as assigned by IANA (see Section 5.3) END 5.3 OLD IANA has created a new subregistry, named "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. New values are to be assigned by Standards Action [RFC8126]. Each bit is tracked with the following qualities: bit number (counting from bit 0 as the most significant bit), description, and defining RFC. The following values are defined in this document: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] NEW IANA maintains a subregistry, named the "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. IANA is requested to make an assignment from this registry as follows: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB5 Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] END --- Section 5 has IANA is requested to allocate new Types for the TLV/Object defined in this document. I think you should delete that text. It doesn't seem to belong to this docu= ment. --- 6. s/presented in the next sections./presented in the next section./ -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Leeyoung Sent: 05 December 2018 17:21 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.tx= t Hi, Just to revive the expired WG draft. Sorry that we slipped this one.=20 Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.o= rg Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:25 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extension= s for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-12-05 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. 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Mar 2019 17:18:17 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 01:18:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Applicability of the Path Computation Element (PCE) to the Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) Authors : Dhruv Dhody Young Lee Daniele Ceccarelli Filename : draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2019-03-07 Abstract: Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) refers to the set of virtual network (VN) operations needed to orchestrate, control and manage large-scale multi-domain TE networks so as to facilitate network programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and end-to-end virtual service aware connectivity and network function virtualization services. The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a component, application, or network node that is capable of computing a network path or route based on a network graph and applying computational constraints. The PCE serves requests from Path Computation Clients (PCCs) that communicate with it over a local API or using the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP). This document examines the applicability of PCE to the ACTN framework. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Mar 7 23:55:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694CF129532; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 23:55:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155203170040.5473.16317599189030235062@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 23:55:00 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 07:55:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extension for Native IP Network Authors : Aijun Wang Boris Khasanov Sudhir Cheruathur Chun Zhu Sheng Fang Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2019-03-07 Abstract: This document defines the PCEP extension for CCDR application in Native IP network. The scenario and architecture of CCDR in native IP is described in [I-D.ietf-teas-native-ip-scenarios] and [I-D.ietf-teas-pce-native-ip]. This draft describes the key information that is transferred between PCE and PCC to accomplish the end2end traffic assurance in Native IP network under central control mode. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Mar 8 01:21:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468DA131349; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 01:21:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id su5ZwdyVtgV2; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 01:21:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EDF4130E64; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 01:21:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 40A8620829C170BE9BAD; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 09:21:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lhreml704-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.53) by lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 09:21:30 +0000 Received: from lhreml704-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.53) by lhreml704-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.53) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1591.10; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 09:21:30 +0000 Received: from DGGEML421-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.1.199.38) by lhreml704-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.53) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_0, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA_P256) id 15.1.1591.10 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 09:21:29 +0000 Received: from DGGEML529-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.187]) by dggeml421-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.199.38]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 17:21:19 +0800 From: "Chengli (Cheng Li)" To: "pce@ietf.org" CC: "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Thread-Index: AQHUzMsUu4aZ9QXZ4UuGJUtKYo7roqYBgo1Q Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 09:21:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.185.75] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 09:21:37 -0000 Hi Chairs, We would like to request 10 minutes slot for Path Segment related extension= s. - the draft(s) you want to discuss: draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment and draft-= li-pce-sr-bidir-path(may move to Bidir path drafts slot) - the expected presenter name: Cheng Li - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot: 10 m= inutes - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve?= Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? To introduce the update of drafts and request for WG adoption since Path se= gment draft has been accepted in SPRING WG,=20 PCEP extensions need to accelerate to meet the requirements from implementa= tion. Thanks, Cheng -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:28 PM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Hi WG, The PCE WG session in Prague is tentatively scheduled for Thursday Morning = session I [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, pl= ease send a slot request to the chairs by Monday March 11th including: - the draft(s) you want to discuss, - the expected presenter name, - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve?= Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? Please note - Asking for a slot does not mean you will get one. We will be = prioritising moving WG work first as well as drafts that were discussed on = the mailing list. Please make sure to introduce your new draft or summarise= an update in the mailing list. The last date to submit drafts is also Marc= h 11th [2]. Thanks! PCE Chairs [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Fri Mar 8 02:16:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A768E130F24; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:16:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cm1Pd2n9CEU8; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta7.iomartmail.com (mta7.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 714AB130EE7; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta7.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x28AFveS016184; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:15:57 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4C722054; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:15:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1075022052; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:15:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x28AFrOF024478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:15:55 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Chengli \(Cheng Li\)'" , Cc: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:15:51 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <02ff01d4d597$eabb7a00$c0326e00$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQGHk9OykwAfPZuMGbUoY7hRwbUliQHlPIPdpozdzcA= X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24476.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--13.250-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--13.250-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24476.006 X-TMASE-Result: 10--13.250400-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: HXSqh3WYKfvxIbpQ8BhdbOYAh37ZsBDCUd7Bjfo+5jTCD3pwRkVmhgzZ v1Is3rTispwNUK25+98EhdPrp/TFylhYg7LL4jQvxjCgbSi49HVhBfGxmdHCgrBOE9APtGEp/JN GPFwi6g3JfkFM1odQaWphGQuiEFaXePGAeSn124KpuD25aEtgt9ZKsq3DGpaluLvIwNmE5pzv0I FsGP6H4ifpPYe6ttEYqVoS9VGfK8tfDKWvP/4QA0uL2vcwDv//fS0Ip2eEHny+qryzYw2E8Avgp sXypsAMDMq3z/Y/gtUgBwKKRHe+rx03SpiTjooJihv3n20tPW9lzCswYwjb7cVYDYYOVv9wW8cb zev3+c0= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 10:16:08 -0000 Thanks Cheng, (and thanks for answering the question "why do you want to be on the agenda?") We'll be building the agenda next week and will get back to you. Adrian (for the chairs) -----Original Message----- From: Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 08 March 2019 09:21 To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Hi Chairs, We would like to request 10 minutes slot for Path Segment related extensions. - the draft(s) you want to discuss: draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment and draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path(may move to Bidir path drafts slot) - the expected presenter name: Cheng Li - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot: 10 minutes - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve? Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? To introduce the update of drafts and request for WG adoption since Path segment draft has been accepted in SPRING WG, PCEP extensions need to accelerate to meet the requirements from implementation. Thanks, Cheng -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:28 PM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Hi WG, The PCE WG session in Prague is tentatively scheduled for Thursday Morning session I [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, please send a slot request to the chairs by Monday March 11th including: - the draft(s) you want to discuss, - the expected presenter name, - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve? Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? Please note - Asking for a slot does not mean you will get one. We will be prioritising moving WG work first as well as drafts that were discussed on the mailing list. Please make sure to introduce your new draft or summarise an update in the mailing list. The last date to submit drafts is also March 11th [2]. Thanks! PCE Chairs [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Fri Mar 8 02:19:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCB21277D8; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:19:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VcMoAfS2rqPY; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88282127817; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 51CD59D6D9797FD0C603; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:19:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lhreml701-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.50) by lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:19:35 +0000 Received: from lhreml701-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.50) by lhreml701-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1591.10; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:19:35 +0000 Received: from DGGEML421-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.1.199.38) by lhreml701-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_0, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA_P256) id 15.1.1591.10 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:19:35 +0000 Received: from DGGEML529-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.187]) by dggeml421-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.199.38]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 18:19:33 +0800 From: "Chengli (Cheng Li)" To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" CC: "pce-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Thread-Index: AQHUzMsUu4aZ9QXZ4UuGJUtKYo7roqYBgo1Q//+NkICAAIaWkA== Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:19:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <02ff01d4d597$eabb7a00$c0326e00$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <02ff01d4d597$eabb7a00$c0326e00$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.185.75] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 10:19:41 -0000 :) Thank you for your work! See you in Prague! Cheng -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 6:16 PM To: Chengli (Cheng Li) ; pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Thanks Cheng, (and thanks for answering the question "why do you want to be on the agenda?") We'll be building the agenda next week and will get back to you. Adrian (for the chairs) -----Original Message----- From: Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 08 March 2019 09:21 To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Hi Chairs, We would like to request 10 minutes slot for Path Segment related extension= s. - the draft(s) you want to discuss: draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment and draft-= li-pce-sr-bidir-path(may move to Bidir path drafts slot) - the expected presenter name: Cheng Li - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot: 10 m= inutes - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve? Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? To introduce the update of drafts and request for WG adoption since Path se= gment draft has been accepted in SPRING WG, PCEP extensions need to acceler= ate to meet the requirements from implementation. Thanks, Cheng -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:28 PM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Hi WG, The PCE WG session in Prague is tentatively scheduled for Thursday Morning = session I [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, pl= ease send a slot request to the chairs by Monday March 11th including: - the draft(s) you want to discuss, - the expected presenter name, - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve? Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? Please note - Asking for a slot does not mean you will get one. We will be = prioritising moving WG work first as well as drafts that were discussed on = the mailing list. Please make sure to introduce your new draft or summarise= an update in the mailing list. The last date to submit drafts is also Marc= h 11th [2]. Thanks! PCE Chairs [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Fri Mar 8 02:25:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EED612787D; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:25:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HRS0SB6a_ko0; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta7.iomartmail.com (mta7.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0050B127817; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 02:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta7.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x28APfJ5025644; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:25:41 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AA522044; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:25:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DCB52203D; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:25:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x28APOuj013099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:25:35 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Leeyoung'" , Cc: References: <154402349873.31821.13107895204708329923@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0A0397@SJCEML521-MBB.china.huawei.com> <024901d4d533$40064c70$c012e550$@olddog.co.uk> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0ED9C8@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0ED9C8@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:25:21 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <030001d4d599$46a04c50$d3e0e4f0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQJ5HsaGUAFUHrre8zIvZdw/W1IO9gNE4vECAcz63/8CRpHLMaR+MMWg X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24476.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--24.859-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--24.859-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24476.006 X-TMASE-Result: 10--24.858800-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: CxmI61mtwh/xIbpQ8BhdbOYAh37ZsBDC1kqyrcMalqUY0A95tjAn+3kv YGlzSDgV545k976poTn1ej67Eiww8dgwSqFJytAFuZH4LSX2+NXj5lyuq8IOQSJ8zskw0dbrwEQ QAKgyAOzFsr/XDkmMDOfnrxRNYGoA2X53LeVAc3Gie2FBq5CMBkCrr/LkAQ46U8wf6W+PJpyBgW 1XMBdGD7bcWNj/LaqSmxkMy0ihHJAlO3FWVopgW1VeGWZmxN2M7yWPaQc4INSJ1jCZ8wjy4Czyb VqWyY2N6qcdaCww1AM9GQHwZ5PGB7whlFvnwBLwk3ewifG2MNMrHkgIan9a0U2RCFe5U+L20q/u yyy65v0FAS/sjq7bP66gBpA9sOKwOxvDw/pvolfBVprK8rvWXxkqnRJng/51kXR9dgxJdJDrseI 2g+h6ivh2ZcJofSWj6Wad6J4Rygr2ckw6NiGelE0IfQOJvRLRcRFSelLG698uaIC/E9/9waTAVM IKlsVHaSUqrHAFyz3+FFHV6Rw3Vd9UJztNbmSY6rBZUF8y6+iFBoWoxESWCSP8GBeiiqDDon3mi Mz60oQtNtDkrwg5N4nzDVv3EAo57vEPgLSbfiBoMLOoNHsM9hluk36HDQp7wCVyZHYmmMJOj53m RhXD8TF85Aa1N1Kh6MCkdWJ+t7G2/BXr9u3ZJlt3XMydUaMXmru3TC/mLU5GMe+tDjQ3FqAaVFv zOofJEbOEGgbUnoMTAn/kUggf/BiJS+736x5HxZQoGMRGhhMTcFr9nQa5pGtPyIJPorIPkvnpjp KXqm4Zw5ucm3NLWgRGYtbsaiyyDyszNV8ahX2eAiCmPx4NwLTrdaH1ZWqCpvI8UZOf47jnPl83u KzqtSiNG0gFH6Rw3QfwsVk0UbslCGssfkpInQ== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 10:25:53 -0000 Hi Young, Thanks for picking this up. Your modified change, is better than my proposal. Cheers, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Leeyoung Sent: 08 March 2019 00:59 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Hi Adrian, Please see the diff file and my response inline (only those needed to comment; all other comments of yours have been agreed and incorporated in the revision). Let us know if you have further comments. In the meantime, version 10 has been published. Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:15 PM To: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Hi authors, Unless I am mistaken, there was never a response to my review back in December. Did it get lost (I see it in the list archive)? Plans? Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: 05 December 2018 18:17 To: 'Leeyoung' ; 'pce@ietf.org' Subject: RE: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt While I'm on a roll reviewing PCE documents, and while Young is being active, I just had a look at his new revision on this draft. Glad that it is alive again because we seem to have a number of documents that relate to it. Only a few comments, but I think tidying these gets us close to "done". Thanks, Adrian === You should move "Conventions used in this document" down to become Section 2 and replace it with the new text... The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. That requires you to make an addition to the normative references for RFC 8174. --- 2. OLD For Passive Stateful PCE where PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instruction. As GMPLS-technology specific Objects/TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], this document just points to the work in [PCEP-GMPLS] and add only the stateful PCE aspect only if applicable. NEW For Passive Stateful PCEs, PCReq/PCRep messages are used to convey path computation instructions. GMPLS-technology specific Objects and TLVs are defined in [PCEP-GMPLS], so this document just points at that work and only adds the stateful PCE aspects where applicable. END --- 4.2 You have "ERO object" and "RRO object". That would be EROO and RROO? I think that if you expand the terms on first use, then the use of the abbreviations will be easier. In the same section you have IRO and XRO which you should expand. --- 4.2 needs a reference to RFC 5511. I suggest... OLD To be more specific, the is updated as follows: NEW To be more specific, the is updated as follows using the notation of [RFC5511]: END Obviously, you need to add that to the references section as well. --- At the end of 4.2 you have Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, this SHOULD to be synchronized to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. Reviewers are likely to ask "under what circumstances can an implementation vary this procedure and why?" You may also get asked about the use of the passive voice in this sentence. Who should synchonise it to the stateful PCE? YL>> How about: OLD: Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, this SHOULD to be synchronized to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. NEW: Moreover, if the status of the protecting LSP changes from non-operational to operational, the PCC SHOULD synchronize the state change of the LSPs to the stateful PCE using a PCRpt message. This use case arises, for example, when the protecting LSP becomes operational due to the failure of the primary LSP. END. --- The final sentence of 4.3 says... Note this MAY also be applicable to packet networks. I think probably s/MAY also be/is also/ --- 4.3.2 You rightly say... X bit and Attribute fields are defined in [RFC5521]. So you can safely (should) delete ... X bit: indicates whether the exclusion is mandatory (X=1) and MUST be accommodated, or desired (X=0) and SHOULD be accommodated. ... and ... Attributes: indicates how the exclusion object is to be interpreted. Currently, Interface (Attributes = 0), Node (Attributes =1) and SRLG (Attributes =2) are defined in [RFC5521] and this document does not define new values. --- 4.3.2 s/a LSP/an LSP/ --- 4.3.2 s/exclude it from the/exclude from the/ --- I'm trying to reconcile 4.3.3 with 5.3. The problems are: - 5.3 "new registry" but I think the registry already exists - 5.3 (correctly) says that the new bit position is TBD allowing IANA to make the best selection, but Figure 3 shows a specific position for the B-bit I would replace the text in the two sections as follows... 4.3.3 OLD The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231] and included here for easy reference with the addition of the new B flag. This SRP object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Flags |B|R| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SRP-ID-number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | // Optional TLVs // | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 3: The SRP Object Format A new flag is defined to indicate a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. NEW The format of the SRP object is defined in [RFC8231]. The object is used in PCUpd and PCInit messages for GMPLS. This document defines a new flag to be carried in the Flags field of the SRP object. This flag indicates a bidirectional co-routed LSP setup operation initiated by the PCE as follows: B (Bidirectional LSP -- 1 bit): If set to 0, it indicates a request to create a uni-directional LSP. If set to 1, it indicates a request to create a bidirectional co-routed LSP. The bit position is TBD5 as assigned by IANA (see Section 5.3) END 5.3 OLD IANA has created a new subregistry, named "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. New values are to be assigned by Standards Action [RFC8126]. Each bit is tracked with the following qualities: bit number (counting from bit 0 as the most significant bit), description, and defining RFC. The following values are defined in this document: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] NEW IANA maintains a subregistry, named the "SRP Object Flag Field", within the "Path Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry, to manage the Flag field of the SRP object. IANA is requested to make an assignment from this registry as follows: Bit Description Reference --- ---------------------------- ---------- TDB5 Bi-directional co-routed LSP [This.I-D] END --- Section 5 has IANA is requested to allocate new Types for the TLV/Object defined in this document. I think you should delete that text. It doesn't seem to belong to this document. --- 6. s/presented in the next sections./presented in the next section./ -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Leeyoung Sent: 05 December 2018 17:21 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Hi, Just to revive the expired WG draft. Sorry that we slipped this one. Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:25 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Xian Zhang Young Lee Fatai Zhang Ramon Casellas Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-09.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-12-05 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. 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Pl= ease note I'll be remote. - the draft(s) you want to discuss: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller=20 draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr - the expected presenter name: Mahendra Negi - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot:=20 15 minutes - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve?= Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? To introduce updates on these drafts and seek WG opinion. We do seek WG ad= option for draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr. Regards, Mahendra -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:58 AM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Building the PCE WG Agenda for the IETF 104 Hi WG, The PCE WG session in Prague is tentatively scheduled for Thursday Morning = session I [1]. If you need some face-to-face time to progress some work, pl= ease send a slot request to the chairs by Monday March 11th including: - the draft(s) you want to discuss, - the expected presenter name, - the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot, - the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to achieve?= Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it? Please note - Asking for a slot does not mean you will get one. We will be = prioritising moving WG work first as well as drafts that were discussed on = the mailing list. Please make sure to introduce your new draft or summarise= an update in the mailing list. The last date to submit drafts is also Marc= h 11th [2]. Thanks! 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We have 'some' support for this and it looks like a few of you are ready to help work on the draft as well. So, lets adopt it! If you care about SRv6 and the use of PCE/PCEP for SRv6 path calculation and setup, please review the draft and provide comments. We would like to hear from more of you as we progress this work through the WG process. -- Authors, Please post a -00 version 'draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-00' with only the name and date change first. Next, please post a -01 version with alignment to the latest changes in draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing as well as comments from Jeff, Boris and Adrian. -- Jeff, Boris and Adrian, Thank you for your comments! Much appreciated! -- Thanks! PCE Chairs From nobody Sun Mar 10 21:30:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D892B130EF9; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 21:30:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155227860181.31119.4309237205770254979@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 21:30:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-00.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 04:30:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing leveraging the IPv6 data plane Authors : Mahendra Singh Negi Cheng Li Siva Sivabalan Prejeeth Kaladharan Filename : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-00.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2019-03-10 Abstract: The Source Packet Routing in Networking (SPRING) architecture describes how Segment Routing (SR) can be used to steer packets through an IPv6 or MPLS network using the source routing paradigm. Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or RSVP-TE). It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link- State IGPs. A Segment Routed Path can be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation Element (PCE). Since, Segment Routing can be applied to both MPLS and IPv6 forwarding plane, a PCE should be able to compute SR-Path for both MPLS and IPv6 forwarding plane. This draft describes the extensions required for Segment Routing support for IPv6 data plane in Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Hi WG Chairs,

 

Please could you allocate 10 min for draft-barth-pce= -segment-routing-policy-cp ?

 

Mike Koldychev will be presenting remotely.

 

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This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extensions for Associated Bidirectional Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Authors : Rakesh Gandhi Colby Barth Bin Wen Filename : draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-03.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2019-03-11 Abstract: The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests. 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This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extension for Flexible Grid Networks Authors : Young Lee Haomian Zheng Ramon Casellas Ricard Vilalta Daniele Ceccarelli Francesco Lazzeri Filename : draft-ietf-pce-flexible-grid-01.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2019-03-11 Abstract: This document provides the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for the support of Routing and Spectrum Assignment (RSA) in Flexible Grid networks. 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Please see inline for my comment. 01 versio= n has been uploaded (please see the attachment). Note: I might have made mistakes as I was rush to meet the deadline :) Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 4:10 PM To: pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid@ietf.org Subject: Chair review of draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid Hi, As this document is being polled for adoption, I thought I should review it= . There are a considerable number of nits, but nothing that prevents adopt= ion in my view. In the event that this document is adopted, I think the au= thors would do well to address the changes shortly afterwards. If the docu= ment is not adopted but the authors want to continue with the work, they sh= ould pick up these nits. Thanks, Adrian --- Please fix the RFC 2119 boilerplate to use the latest form... The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. ...You'll need to add a reference to RFC 8174 --- idnits shows a lot of issues with references. It is not hard to run idnits = so please get into the habit of running it before you ask for WG adoption. For your convenience, here are all of the issues =3D=3D Missing Reference: 'RFC3209' is mentioned on line 318, but not defined =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC2863' is defined on line 654, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC6566' is defined on line 683, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7420' is defined on line 687, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7446' is defined on line 692, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC5521' is defined on line 708, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC6205' is defined on line 712, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7689' is defined on line 719, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7688' is defined on line 722, but no explici= t reference was found in the text =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7581' is defined on line 731, but no explici= t reference was found in the text ** Downref: Normative reference to an Informational RFC: RFC 7698 The last issue is a warning, and you can keep the downwards reference if yo= u think it is the right thing to do. --- Please check that all abbreviations are expanded on first use. I see: ERO PCE --- Move the first sentence of paragraph 4 of Section 3 down to the end of that= paragraph so that the use of the term "flexi-grid" comes after it has been= explained. --- Section 3 has This document provides PCEP extensions to support Routing and Spectrum Assignment (RSA) in in Spectrum Switched Optical Networks (SSON)[RFC7698]. s/in in/ s/(SSON)[RFC7698]/(SSON} [RFC7698]/ The terms RSA and SSON are, of course, defined in RFC 7698. But the terms c= ome as a surprise in this document. Perhaps you could insert a short paragr= aph above this one to say... The terms "Routing and Spectrum Assignment" (RSA) is introduced in [RFC7698] to refer to blah blah. The term "Spectrum Switched Optical Networks" is also introduced in [RFC7698] and indicates a network that is blah blah blah. That would leave you with This document provides PCEP extensions to support RSA in SSONs. --- Section 3 s/extensions are going to be specified/extensions are specified/ --- Section 4 Bullet b) has a second sentence (beginning "This document aligns...") that = doesn't seem specific to that bullet. Maybe it belongs at the top of the se= ction. --- Section 4 has Additionally, given a range of potential spectrums to allocate, the request SHOULD convey the heuristic / mechanism to the allocation. The reader is left wondering how to meet that "SHOULD" and also why to vary= that "SHOULD". --- Section 4 needs a reference to RFC 5511 to explain the notation. --- Section 4 If the SA object is present in the request, it MUST be encoded after the ENDPOINTS object. I think that should be 'GENERALIZED ENDPOINTS object' --- Section 4 has The following new flags SHOULD be set But I think you are equally happy for the bit to be set or cleared. YL>> OLD: The following new flag SHOULD be set NEW: One flag bit is allocated as follows: --- 4.1 This TLV MUST NOT be used when the M bit is cleared. I think you may mean... SHOULD NOT be present and MUST be ignored YL>> Yes. OLD: This TLV MUST NOT be used when the M bit is cleared. NEW: This TLV SHOULD not be present and MUST be ignored when the M bit is c= leared. --- I think you are going to need an IANA registry for the Frequency-Slot Assig= nment (FSA) Method. YL>> Yes, added. NEW: IANA is to allocate a new PCEP TLV type, Frequency-Slot Selection TLV (TBD2= ) in the "PCEP TLV Type Indicators" subregistry (http://www.iana.org/assign= ments/pcep/pcep.xhtml#pcep-tlv-type-indicators). --- 4.1 is going to need an explanation of what the 'n' parameter is. YL>> Yes. Added: where "n" is the parameter in f =3D 193.1 THz + n x 0.00625 THz where 193.1= THz is the ITU-T "anchor frequency" and "n" is a positive integer includin= g 0 [RFC7698]. --- 4.1 - S bit not supported: a PathErr MUST be generated with the Error Code "Routing Problem" (24) with error sub-code "Unsupported Frequency slot Selection Symmetry value" (TDB). This is a bit unclear. Presumably the issue is "S bit clear not supported".= You might consider reversing the meaning of the S bit and then this would= be a lot clearer. YL>> Done. --- Please distinguish the different TBDs as TBD1, TBD2, etc. (And note you have several cases of "TDB") YL>> yes. Added TBDX (where X=3D1,2,...) --- 4.1 As defined in [RFC7570], the R bit reflects the LSP_REQUIRED_ATTRIBUTE and LSP_ATTRIBUTE semantic defined in [RFC5420], and it SHOULD be set accordingly. It is not clear what R bit you are referring to. YL>> This paragraph was removed as this is an irrelevant discussion. --- 4.1 A Frequency Slot Selection TLV can be constructed by a node and added to an ERO Hop Attributes subobject in order to be processed by downstream nodes (transit and egress). As defined in [RFC7570], the R bit reflects the LSP_REQUIRED_ATTRIBUTE and LSP_ATTRIBUTE semantic defined in [RFC5420], and it SHOULD be set accordingly. Once a node properly parses the Spectrum Selection sub-TLV received in an ERO Hop Attributes subobject, the node use the indicated spectrum assignment method (at that hop) for the LSP. In addition, the node SHOULD report compliance by adding an RRO Hop Attributes subobject with the WSON Processing Hop Attribute TLV (and its sub-TLVs) that indicate the utilized method. Frequency-Slot Selection TLVs carried in an RRO Hop Attributes subobject are subject to [RFC7570] and standard RRO processing; see [RFC3209]. There's something odd here. - Doesn't this section say/imply that the Frequency-Slot Selection TLV belongs in the Spectrum Assignment object? Why are you talking about TLVs in the Hop Attribute TLV and the ERO Hop Attributes subobject? Maybe the first paragraph here should read... A Frequency Slot Selection TLV can also be constructed by a node... - Why are you talking about the Spectrum Selection sub-TLV? Doesn't that belong in Section 5? YL>> Thanks for pointing this out. You are correct. These two paragraphs do= not belong here. Deleted. --- 4.2 For any request that contains a Frequency-slot assignment, the requester (PCC) MUST be able to specify a restriction on the frequency-slots to be used. I think you can s/MUST/must/ YL>> Yes. Corrected. --- 4.2 ::=3D ( )... I don't think you need to list every field of the frequency slot TLV in the= RBNF, and in particular you should not list the reserved field. YL>> Actually the following is the right RBNF: NEW ::=3D ( )... With this correction, I think I can further reduce it as follows: ::=3D ( )... Is this OK with you? --- 4.2 Note that a PCC MAY add a spectrum restriction that applies to all links by setting the Count field to zero and specifying just a set of spectrums. I think s/spectrum/frequency slot/ twice YL>> Agreed and corrected. --- 4.2 and Section 3.3.1 for the Spectrum Restriction Field encoding, respectively. Why do you point us at the definition of this field? YL>> Yes, it is not necessary; removed. --- 4.2.1 broken reference YL>> It is corrected to point to Section 4.2 --- 5. The Spectrum Allocation TLV type is TBD, recommended value is TBD. No need to recommend a value of TBD :-) YL>> "recommended value is TBD" delete. --- 5. The type value of the Spectrum Restriction Constraint TLV is TBD by IANA. This seems out of place and is the first mention of this TLV. YL>> Deleted. Instead before Figure 4, added "IANA is to allocate a new PCE= P TLV type, the Spectrum Allocation TLV Type (TBD). --- Section 7 could use some external references. Added: G.694.1 and G.872. --- Section 8 IANA maintains a registry of PCEP parameters. IANA has made allocations from the sub-registries as described in the following sections. Hmmm, I think IANA has not actually made these allocations. 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Hope the WG can provide some more input, especially from implementers. Best, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Leeyoung Sent: 11 March 2019 23:57 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid@ietf.org Subject: RE: Chair review of draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid Hi Adrian, Thanks for your chair's review. Please see inline for my comment. 01 version has been uploaded (please see the attachment). Note: I might have made mistakes as I was rush to meet the deadline :) Best regards, Young From nobody Tue Mar 12 08:57:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96238130E66; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adrian Farrel via Datatracker To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: Adrian Farrel , adrian@olddog.co.uk, iesg-secretary@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org Message-ID: <155240626860.16141.6155145537762951479.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:57:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:57:49 -0000 Adrian Farrel has requested publication of draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 as Informational on behalf of the PCE working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ From nobody Tue Mar 12 08:58:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20F5128AFB; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:58:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: dhruv.ietf@gmail.com, The IESG , db3546@att.com, Dhruv Dhody , pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <155240628885.16234.65360707643556724.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:58:08 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Protocol Action: 'PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-16.txt) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:58:09 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing' (draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-16.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Path Computation Element Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Martin Vigoureux and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing/ Technical Summary Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or RSVP-TE). It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link- State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs). A Segment Routed Path can be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation Element (PCE). This document specifies extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC to request a path subject to certain constraints and optimization criteria in SR networks. Working Group Summary No controversies. A 2nd WG LC was issued after the draft had a substantial change after the 1st call. The shepherd review also led to simplification of text. The authors handled all comments raised. The consensus behind the document is good. Document Quality There are several PCEP implementations supporting Segment Routing. This includes commercial as well as open source implementations. There was also a discussion related to backward compatibility as related to some implementations before RFC8408 was published. Substantial review was done by Adrian Farrel and Dhruv Dhody. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Dhruv Dhody Who is the Responsible Area Director? Deborah Brungard From nobody Tue Mar 12 09:37:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F143130F19; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g1_xal-LiMc5; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73206130F09; Tue, 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<028a01d4c7d6$a38fdc30$eaaf9490$@olddog.co.uk> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0FA3C7@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> <001b01d4d8d5$6eaef360$4c0cda20$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001b01d4d8d5$6eaef360$4c0cda20$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.158.98] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Chair review of draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:50:10 -0000 Hi Adrian, Thanks for your quick reply and approval.=20 Hopefully, more comment will come from implementers to improve the draft. = =20 Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:14 AM To: Leeyoung ; pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid@ietf.org Subject: RE: Chair review of draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid Hi Young, This looks good to me. Hope the WG can provide some more input, especially from implementers. Best, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Leeyoung Sent: 11 March 2019 23:57 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; pce@ietf.org Cc: draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid@ietf.org Subject: RE: Chair review of draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid Hi Adrian, Thanks for your chair's review. Please see inline for my comment. 01 versio= n has been uploaded (please see the attachment). Note: I might have made mistakes as I was rush to meet the deadline :) Best regards, Young From nobody Tue Mar 12 15:20:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854F21279AB; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:20:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schinazi via Datatracker To: Cc: pce@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.93.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155242920449.5606.4649488327500115063@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:20:04 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-12 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:20:04 -0000 Reviewer: David Schinazi Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-12 Reviewer: David Schinazi Review Date: 2019-03-12 IETF LC End Date: 2019-03-20 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: I am not knowledgeable in this domain so this review only focused on style. Document reads nicely, is well ordered and defines its terminology clearly. Looks great from a form perspective. Major issues: None Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments: None From nobody Tue Mar 12 16:13:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720B6131161; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UDGg_jUrFI0k; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54777131188; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2CNDSKp005890; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:13:28 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5686622044; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:13:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40D5522042; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:13:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2CNDOM2000844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:13:25 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'David Schinazi via Datatracker'" , Cc: , , References: <155242920449.5606.4649488327500115063@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <155242920449.5606.4649488327500115063@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:13:22 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <00e701d4d929$326fa0d0$974ee270$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQFUcoZIVEVuY+ZVe7XUumIAvHYUhKcJbRsA Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24486.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.567-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--3.567-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24486.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--3.567100-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 9zTThWtzImvxIbpQ8BhdbOYAh37ZsBDCGbJMFqqIm9zMQPl8LlEOGqe7 nmhJA6kzXJpgzrahSvo2iF1B6yka+AEPJSU5uWO/bMGKOuLn5FWzWETBQPV38lP0F8diMVluElo tcaZGHXWjFv9/iBrNM1FLvGMRv53Ezsxad8fKloZEC+iFIlSkj/wGVtfL479aFFn/3AEyEazyHk 8hDbwui+fOVcxjDhcw5i/lXtZ4Z+wLbigRnpKlKZvjAepGmdoOxfuY29vIKj/eW/QI97TylZptx WGAgpfaZYlaQ7YelK6sNxkvwvt/DjKvibZiH8uoSmB2RB9hZawVdDohIkMcsygOmJIwXx895D9s mqVBD9yilnnVDECPd/H7AvsTxZMb7DafdH0+BI7qCyYebl7X7A== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-12 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:13:41 -0000 Thanks David, Subject experts we have. Your review of readability etc. was most = welcome. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: David Schinazi via Datatracker =20 Sent: 12 March 2019 22:20 To: gen-art@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; = draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp.all@ietf.org Subject: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-12 Reviewer: David Schinazi Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-p2mp-12 Reviewer: David Schinazi Review Date: 2019-03-12 IETF LC End Date: 2019-03-20 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: I am not knowledgeable in this domain so this review only focused on style. Document reads nicely, is well ordered and defines its terminology clearly. Looks great from a form = perspective. Major issues: None Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments: None From nobody Wed Mar 13 05:32:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21651130DE6; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1fbrbsd6aXxJ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89CF7129A85; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (vs3.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.124]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2DCW6bP003066; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:32:07 GMT Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6743222044; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:32:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs3.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6397522040; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:32:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2DCW452026064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:32:05 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , , Cc: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:32:02 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <019e01d4d998$c448f8c0$4cdaea40$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdTZl09vua81zYZsS+imcY8hRummHQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24486.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--5.941-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--5.941-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24486.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--5.940900-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: gn3Lr6Weh20txeejojcKfwhWgIsZuXlPQPCWRE0Lo8IdGynCN4u9JVMN VmsJXBgwPSPkaI8FWGQC03PHBsD+f4+uMz+W0xT5tOeVIsIYD4sZKp0SZ4P+dXHV7c2GNf0C66g 24LYLBKkhJ/ufappeEpGTpe1iiCJqtD9qpBlNF8rdWrDP/NNZp7RyGGICxm42UEhWy9W70AEgBw KKRHe+r5OTo/uD9OUmgg6jMwFqyvnrQD9KFzeVwSW6Wzmu+ASKnm3a9wk1BQk= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:32:24 -0000 Hi authors, In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance with IETF IPR rules. Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of: I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been disclosed to the IETF. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a timely manner. Thanks, Adrian From nobody Wed Mar 13 06:53:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2728F124B0C; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 06:53:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.626, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u4356Q4k-07D; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 06:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AA3F1240D3; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 06:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 67806EAD54FE37455175; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:53:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:53:21 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.179]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.15]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 06:53:12 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org" , "s.avantika.avantika@gmail.com" , "Zhangxian (Xian)" , "udayasreereddy@gmail.com" CC: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce Thread-Index: AdTZl09vua81zYZsS+imcY8hRummHQADLsRA Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:53:12 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0FAAF6@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <019e01d4d998$c448f8c0$4cdaea40$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <019e01d4d998$c448f8c0$4cdaea40$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.123] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:53:25 -0000 Hi Adrian, I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed= in accordance with IETF IPR rules. Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 7:32 AM To: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org; s.avantika.avantika@gmail.com; Z= hangxian (Xian) ; udayasreereddy@gmail.com Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce Hi authors, In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all auth= ors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance wit= h IETF IPR rules. Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of: I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed= in accordance with IETF IPR rules. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been disclos= ed to the IETF. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been discl= osed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a time= ly manner. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Adrian, WG, I'm not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft. BR Daniele -----Original Message----- From: Leeyoung Sent: den 13 mars 2019 14:53 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org; s.avantika.avantika@gmail.com; Zhangxian (Xian) ; udayasreereddy@gmail.com Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce Hi Adrian, I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 7:32 AM To: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org; s.avantika.avantika@gmail.com; Zhangxian (Xian) ; udayasreereddy@gmail.com Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce Hi authors, In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance with IETF IPR rules. Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of: I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been disclosed to the IETF. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a timely manner. 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X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:10:49 -0000 Hi, I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. Regards, Dhruv On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:02 PM Adrian Farrel wrote: > > Hi authors, > > In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all > authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance > with IETF IPR rules. > > Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of: > > I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed > in accordance with IETF IPR rules. > > I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been > disclosed to the IETF. > > I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been > disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a > timely manner. > > Thanks, > Adrian > From nobody Wed Mar 13 07:14:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF2C130F18; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:14:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CmQVJpgtfVsj; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x135.google.com (mail-it1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65397130F0D; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x135.google.com with SMTP id z124so3096177itc.2; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=z/qsy+fEJtCOnfxHCb0plUZbovVEppmuRlb2cML40Os=; b=TuYLCdXxw3otvZa4v6rp+3wRxR8hbVHdrhafpKkKbt4eJfBY94iBVil50HuIhsWq8+ bAy3F1KjMTi7DCgxkkcgW/eFI6kxN1eplcXgrwR6b/eK3Wmp9bhh1HLcOI5RpnA1PBl4 5jw8LgVldnksAqDCHAXDK+fc0+W82l6g6pIAMgIzq3dzvO258oToC4Wu9wLqP458gPkn a2xcOMbkKYck1ZM0P/vYfy1Yc2ubLGCY4UfdgCL0vv3F7rivj7A8k659dk7w9Be6tS/d iGwEO6MLrirPehJ3LqspYbkrgwm3hK2qEZzx7ODL/09f5j3j8tm5vqM/ZsNFJBYM7ycA ra0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=z/qsy+fEJtCOnfxHCb0plUZbovVEppmuRlb2cML40Os=; b=IFg0i0ZsvMTmen3W4xH0d62eSjBCE2/wgH9LGtAgui8huRGEAKiG/Jw1nsN19QaVcw c4cRebXOMbQYdgK+fVCxB56SC9NyTOjs7NoPS5FGbiAgNijGke74p2FMH9g1WNgCV9hq iUfEq+em65NNGXT8pyc1Q/Yk7DvrebDl78AN0DnAomTzww7E7Lz5sWJyNqM8kdB5Q6fB jgp8LMv7YzceU6vF5JddNCDRBhn2uQCp8qD2EiP8LviBBH2ztWWSI0/mCwrqLXGgPyGd 79groAhl+lOgY/L1ZahlBlxI1dfe2Kh5UefWKVlFQsr1/2nRuTa26X1JeY7fmXTMD9ev KzUA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW3+Tmb4yDK8HRjbfeqjTloPOMsbyRLjUY46DqFmm8ZE77LaJgw zUo4zLyGq4gcyxgDHznWlfAUsCPmcsbao8r+MEURwMNq X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw10G8XuVrEXsuzrB9QPrK74Kzk2oTKzl73l9NdN24WPEt781/bOR+uzdjab+b4TsxzzgOJBXpxqQeAe5qBMVI= X-Received: by 2002:a02:bb0a:: with SMTP id y10mr25361384jan.125.1552486445724; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:14:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <019e01d4d998$c448f8c0$4cdaea40$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <019e01d4d998$c448f8c0$4cdaea40$@olddog.co.uk> From: Udayasree Palle Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 10:13:56 -0400 Message-ID: To: adrian@olddog.co.uk Cc: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org, s.avantika.avantika@gmail.com, zhang.xian@huawei.com, udayasreereddy@gmail.com, pce@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001db6fa0583fa6be4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:14:17 -0000 --0000000000001db6fa0583fa6be4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. Thanks, Udayasree On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:32 AM Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi authors, > > In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all > authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance > with IETF IPR rules. > > Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of: > > I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed > in accordance with IETF IPR rules. > > I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been > disclosed to the IETF. > > I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been > disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a > timely manner. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > --0000000000001db6fa0583fa6be4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft= that should be disclosed
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.=C2=A0
=

Thanks,
Udayasree=C2=A0

On Wed, Mar = 13, 2019 at 8:32 AM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
Hi authors,

In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all<= br> authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance=
with IETF IPR rules.

Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of:

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed=
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been
disclosed to the IETF.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been
disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a=
timely manner.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Hi Adrian,

I= am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed<= br>in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

Regards,
Ava= ntika

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 6:02 PM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
Hi authors,

In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all<= br> authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance=
with IETF IPR rules.

Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of:

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed=
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been
disclosed to the IETF.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been
disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a=
timely manner.

Thanks,
Adrian

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To those on the agenda, do think about how to best utilise the valuable F2F time during the meeting and what do you want to achieve with your time. Please keep some time for Q&A and receiving feedback. We urge all of you to continue to use the mailing list to introduce the changes made in your draft, list any open issues, socialise new ideas, ask for feedback etc. See you in Prague. Thanks! PCE Chairs --=20 PCE Working Group Meeting =E2=80=93 9:00-10:30 Thursday Morning session I 1. Introduction 1.1. Administrivia, Agenda Bashing (chairs, 5 min) 1.2. WG Status (chairs, 10 min) [15/90] 2. WG I-Ds 2.1. Stateful PCE for GMPLS (Young Lee, 5 min) [20/90] draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 2.2. Enhanced Errors (Zheng Haomian, 10 min) [30/90] draft-ietf-pce-enhanced-errors-05 3. PCE as a Central Controller 3.1. Native IP (Aijun Wang, 5 min) [35/90] draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03 3.2. PCECC Extensions (Mahendra Negi (remote), 5 min) [40/90] draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-01 draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr-04 3.3. PCE Controlled ID space (Aijun Wang, 10 min) [50/90] draft-li-pce-controlled-id-space-02 4. Segment Routing 4.1. SR Policy (Mike Koldychev (remote), 10 min) [60/90] draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-02 4.2. Path Segment & Bi-directional SR (Cheng Li, 10 min) [70/90] draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment-04 draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-04 5. Other Topics 5.1. Stateful PCE Inter-domain (Julien Meuric, 10 min) [80/90] draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain-02 5.2. PCEP for BIER-TE (Ran Chen, 10 min) [90/90] draft-chen-pce-bier-04 * Subject to change, Refer the link for the latest version. 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boundary="_000_b17882163a3e4db19e843b1a1111c875skttnetpmx1SKTAD_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] =?euc-kr?q?=C8=B8=BD=C5=3A_Re=3A_IPR_poll_on_draft-ietf-pc?= =?euc-kr?q?e-stateful-hpce?= X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 17:17:08 -0000 --_000_b17882163a3e4db19e843b1a1111c875skttnetpmx1SKTAD_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGkgQWRyaWFuLA0KDQpJIGFtIG5vdCBhd2FyZSBvZiBhbnkgSVBSIGFwcGxpY2FibGUgdG8gdGhp cyBkcmFmdCB0aGF0IHNob3VsZCBiZSBkaXNjbG9zZWQgaW4gYWNjb3JkYW5jZSB3aXRoIElFVEYg SVBSIHJ1bGVzLg0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KSm9uZ3lvb24NCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fDQq6uLO9ILvntvc6IEF2YW50aWthIFMgPHMuYXZhbnRpa2EuYXZhbnRpa2FAZ21h aWwuY29tPg0KurizvSCzr8KlOiAyMDE5s+IgM7/5IDEzwM8gvPa/5MDPIL/AyMQgMTE6MTI6NTEN CrnetMIgu+e29zogYWRyaWFuQG9sZGRvZy5jby51aw0KwvzBtjogZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1wY2Utc3Rh dGVmdWwtaHBjZUBpZXRmLm9yZzsgemhhbmcueGlhbkBodWF3ZWkuY29tOyB1ZGF5YXNyZWVyZWRk eUBnbWFpbC5jb207IHBjZUBpZXRmLm9yZw0Kwaa48TogUmU6IElQUiBwb2xsIG9uIGRyYWZ0LWll dGYtcGNlLXN0YXRlZnVsLWhwY2UNCg0KSGkgQWRyaWFuLA0KDQpJIGFtIG5vdCBhd2FyZSBvZiBh bnkgSVBSIGFwcGxpY2FibGUgdG8gdGhpcyBkcmFmdCB0aGF0IHNob3VsZCBiZSBkaXNjbG9zZWQN CmluIGFjY29yZGFuY2Ugd2l0aCBJRVRGIElQUiBydWxlcy4NCg0KUmVnYXJkcywNCkF2YW50aWth DQoNCk9uIFdlZCwgTWFyIDEzLCAyMDE5LCA2OjAyIFBNIEFkcmlhbiBGYXJyZWwgPGFkcmlhbkBv bGRkb2cuY28udWs8bWFpbHRvOmFkcmlhbkBvbGRkb2cuY28udWs+PiB3cm90ZToNCkhpIGF1dGhv cnMsDQoNCkluIHByZXBhcmF0aW9uIGZvciBXb3JraW5nIEdyb3VwIGxhc3QgY2FsbCBvbiB0aGlz IGRyYWZ0LCBJJ2QgbGlrZSBhbGwNCmF1dGhvcnMgYW5kIGNvbnRyaWJ1dG9ycyB0byBjb25maXJt IG9uIHRoZSBsaXN0IHRoYXQgdGhleSBhcmUgaW4gY29tcGxpYW5jZQ0Kd2l0aCBJRVRGIElQUiBy dWxlcy4NCg0KUGxlYXNlIHJlc3BvbmQgKGNvcHlpbmcgdGhlIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCkgdG8gc2F5 IG9uZSBvZjoNCg0KSSBhbSBub3QgYXdhcmUgb2YgYW55IElQUiBhcHBsaWNhYmxlIHRvIHRoaXMg ZHJhZnQgdGhhdCBzaG91bGQgYmUgZGlzY2xvc2VkDQppbiBhY2NvcmRhbmNlIHdpdGggSUVURiBJ UFIgcnVsZXMuDQoNCkkgYW0gYXdhcmUgb2YgSVBSIGFwcGxpY2FibGUgdG8gdGhpcyBkcmFmdCwg YW5kIGl0IGhhcyBhbHJlYWR5IGJlZW4NCmRpc2Nsb3NlZCB0byB0aGUgSUVURi4NCg0KSSBhbSBh d2FyZSBvZiBJUFIgYXBwbGljYWJsZSB0byB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0LCBidXQgdGhhdCBoYXMgbm90IHll dCBiZWVuDQpkaXNjbG9zZWQgdG8gdGhlIElFVEYuIEkgd2lsbCB3b3JrIHRvIGVuc3VyZSB0aGF0 IGl0IHdpbGwgYmUgZGlzY2xvc2VkIGluIGENCnRpbWVseSBtYW5uZXIuDQoNClRoYW5rcywNCkFk cmlhbg0KDQo= --_000_b17882163a3e4db19e843b1a1111c875skttnetpmx1SKTAD_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adrian,

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed= in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

Regards,
Jongyoon
=BA=B8=B3=BD =BB=E7=B6=F7: = Avantika S <s.avantika.avantika@gmail.com>
=BA=B8=B3=BD =B3=AF=C2=A5: 2019=B3=E2 3=BF=F9 13=C0=CF =BC=F6=BF=E4= =C0=CF =BF=C0=C8=C4 11:12:51
=B9=DE=B4=C2 =BB=E7=B6=F7: adrian@olddog.co.uk
=C2=FC=C1=B6: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org; zhang.xian@huaw= ei.com; udayasreereddy@gmail.com; pce@ietf.org
=C1=A6=B8=F1: Re: IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce
 
Hi Adrian,

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that s= hould be disclosed
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.
=
= Regards,
= Avantika

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 6:02 PM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
Hi authors,

In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all
authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance=
with IETF IPR rules.

Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of:

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed=
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been
disclosed to the IETF.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been
disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a=
timely manner.

Thanks,
Adrian

--_000_b17882163a3e4db19e843b1a1111c875skttnetpmx1SKTAD_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 15:01:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8271311E8 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:01:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qkC5ISDChMmL for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 416C212796C for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (vs3.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.124]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2DM1St1001172 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:01:28 GMT Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840AB2203A for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs3.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F32722032 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.237.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2DM1Q3q024567 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:01:27 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:01:23 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <02a601d4d9e8$4def3770$e9cda650$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdTZ53y9WbWjgHFiTrWATWWbUpSffQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.237.8 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24488.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.546-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--8.546-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24488.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--8.546500-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: VZz6+2A6wpoX8+K+77XxXamukiZOfPi2QPCWRE0Lo8IWug0bekn/30nd YtosAwL4JaVXJb4ySQze7FARXhOmf4XVLLOFXnez+mHRL3uzOiKZf5btvM85AWDdsQGY1D47Msq 8MEuZsEu5EDOov8VpcRKw15oDKpL+GAdnzrnkM485f9Xw/xqKXVsKO+9Zlb5JRDqt5ITpO0YUGm 4zriL0oQtuKBGekqUpI/NGWt0UYPAxZNm/LvNMRSFUp4YbxOrAhiH8eTNlcUJXhvEtYXHAb0UeI a84g67X X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Working Group last call on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce-06 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:01:34 -0000 Hi working group, This email starts a working group last call for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce-06. I would like to hear messages of support or concern about this draft. If you support its progression towards publication as an RFC, please let us know that you have read the latest revision, and explain why you think the work is important. Indications of implementation would also be welcome - although this document is informational, I believe some people may have built stateful hierarchical PCEs for experimentation or deployment. If you are opposed to the progression or have concerns please articulate them. As always, review comments and nits are most welcome. Because of the effort that is going in to preparing for IETF-104 and because of the time spent away, this last call will run for three weeks and end on April 4th. Thanks, Adrian From nobody Thu Mar 14 08:07:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3FD12008F; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:07:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Julien Meuric via Datatracker To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com Reply-To: Julien Meuric Message-ID: <155257607657.2637.13994021193221234110.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:07:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:07:57 -0000 Julien Meuric has requested publication of draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the PCE working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-association-group/ From nobody Mon Mar 18 00:19:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC1E1310F1 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G5Q8tPgA0mE4 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 921F31279AA for ; 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Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:27:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 12:57:06 +0530 Message-ID: To: pce@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ff600405845952c4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] PCE WG agenda for IETF 104 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:27:47 -0000 --000000000000ff600405845952c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Authors-of-WG-drafts, To save F2F time during the WG session, instead of asking status of each WG document (which are not on the agenda), we would like to populate the date on our wiki [1] in advance and use that for any further discussion. I have put the initial status (as per my understanding), you could either send a note to pce-chairs@ietf.org for any modifications or make the modification on the wiki page directly (you do need to log-in [2] to make the changes, do that carefully and not break the formatting). Thanks! PCE Chairs [1] https://trac.ietf.org/trac/pce/wiki [2] Use your Datatracker credentials to log in, create datatracker account at https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/ if needed. Copied the relevant section from the wiki - Other WG I-Ds =C2=B6 *Draft* *Remarks* *Action* draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller Last update added support for PCC controlled label space and BSID More reviews and gather implementation experience, on the agenda for 104 draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip Last update made use of PCECC Revie= ws, on the agenda for 104 draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling Last update based on Adrian's comments - draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp - Agreed to merge with draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls draft-ietf-pce-enhanced-errors - Reviews, on the agenda for 104 draft-ietf-pce-flexible-grid Recent WG I-D, -01 version posted handling comments during adoption call More reviews and gather implementation experience draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6 Recent WG I-D a new update handling comments during adoption call is pendingWG documents that authors consider ready for LC Once the chairs have concluded the document would move to the actual WG LC queue. *Draft* *Remarks* *Action* draft-ietf-pce-association-diversity - Waiting for draft-ietf-pce-association-group draft-ietf-pce-association-policy - Waiting for draft-ietf-pce-association-group draft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection - Waiting for draft-ietf-pce-association-group. Maybe batch with draft-IETF-pce-association-diversity draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request - No pending action draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec Julien will be the shepherd because Dhruv and Adrian are authors No pending action draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang Pending updates from YANG Doctor review resolution Dhruv to post update during IETF week draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir A new version posted handling comments from Marina Authors request WGLC on 2019-03-11 draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls Withdrawn from WG LC queue Pending merge with draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:23 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > Hi WG, > > The preliminary PCE WG agenda for IETF 104 is published at - > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-pce/ > > We were not able to accommodate all the requests in a tight 90 mins > slot this time. > > To those on the agenda, do think about how to best utilise the > valuable F2F time during the meeting and what do you want to achieve > with your time. Please keep some time for Q&A and receiving feedback. > We urge all of you to continue to use the mailing list to introduce > the changes made in your draft, list any open issues, socialise new > ideas, ask for feedback etc. > > See you in Prague. > > Thanks! > PCE Chairs > > -- > > PCE Working Group Meeting =E2=80=93 9:00-10:30 Thursday Morning session I > > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Administrivia, Agenda Bashing (chairs, 5 min) > 1.2. WG Status (chairs, 10 min) [15/90] > > 2. WG I-Ds > 2.1. Stateful PCE for GMPLS (Young Lee, 5 min) [20/90] > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 > 2.2. Enhanced Errors (Zheng Haomian, 10 min) [30/90] > draft-ietf-pce-enhanced-errors-05 > > 3. PCE as a Central Controller > 3.1. Native IP (Aijun Wang, 5 min) [35/90] > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03 > 3.2. PCECC Extensions (Mahendra Negi (remote), 5 min) [40/90] > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-01 > draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr-04 > 3.3. PCE Controlled ID space (Aijun Wang, 10 min) [50/90] > draft-li-pce-controlled-id-space-02 > > 4. Segment Routing > 4.1. SR Policy (Mike Koldychev (remote), 10 min) [60/90] > draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-02 > 4.2. Path Segment & Bi-directional SR (Cheng Li, 10 min) [70/90] > draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment-04 > draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-04 > > 5. Other Topics > 5.1. Stateful PCE Inter-domain (Julien Meuric, 10 min) [80/90] > draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain-02 > 5.2. PCEP for BIER-TE (Ran Chen, 10 min) [90/90] > draft-chen-pce-bier-04 > > * Subject to change, Refer the link for the latest version. > --000000000000ff600405845952c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Authors-of-WG-drafts,

To save F= 2F time during the WG session, instead of asking status of each WG document= (which are not on the agenda), we would like to populate the date on our w= iki [1] in advance and use that for any further discussion.

I have p= ut the initial status (as per my understanding), you could either send a no= te to pce-chairs@ietf.org for an= y modifications or make the modification on the wiki page directly (you do = need to log-in [2] to make the changes, do that carefully and not break the= formatting).=C2=A0

Thanks!=C2=A0
PCE Chairs=

[1] https://trac.ietf.org/trac/pce/wiki
[2] Use your Datatracker cre= dentials to log in, create datatracker account at https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/crea= te/ if needed.

Copied the relevant secti= on from the wiki -

Other WG I-Ds=C2=A0=C2=B6

draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6
DraftRemarksAction
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller<= /font>Last update added suppo= rt for PCC controlled label space and BSIDMore reviews and gather implementation experience, on t= he agenda for 104
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-i= pLast update made use = of PCECCReviews, on th= e agenda for 104
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-schedu= lingLast update based = on Adrian's commentsdraft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp-Agreed to merge with draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-= gmpls
draft-ietf-pce-enhanced-errors-Reviews, on the agenda for 104
draft-ietf-p= ce-flexible-gridRecent= WG I-D, -01 version posted handling comments during adoption callMore reviews and gather impleme= ntation experience
Recent WG I-Da new update handling comments du= ring adoption call is pending

WG documents that authors consider ready for LC

=

DraftRemarksActiondraft-ietf-pce-ass= ociation-diversity-Waiting for draft-ietf-pc= e-association-groupdraft-ietf-pce-association-policy-Waiting for draft-ietf-pce-association-groupdraft-ietf-pce-stateful-path-protection-Waiting for draft-ietf-pce-association-group. Maybe batch w= ith draft-IETF-pce-association-diversitydraft-ietf-pce-= lsp-control-request-No pending action= draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspecJulien will be the shepherd because Dhruv and Adrian are= authorsNo pending act= iondraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yangPending updates from YANG Doctor review resolutio= nDhruv to post update = during IETF weekdraft-ietf-pce-association-bidir= A new version posted handlin= g comments from Marina= Authors request WGLC on 2019-03-11draft-ietf-pce-pcep-s= tateful-pce-gmplsWithd= rawn from WG LC queueP= ending merge with draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp




On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1= 0:23 PM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@= gmail.com> wrote:
Hi WG,

The preliminary PCE WG agenda for IETF 104 is published at -
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-pce/=

We were not able to accommodate all the requests in a tight 90 mins
slot this time.

To those on the agenda, do think about how to best utilise the
valuable F2F time during the meeting and what do you want to achieve
with your time. Please keep some time for Q&A and receiving feedback. We urge all of you to continue to use the mailing list to introduce
the changes made in your draft, list any open issues, socialise new
ideas, ask for feedback etc.

See you in Prague.

Thanks!
PCE Chairs

--

PCE Working Group Meeting =E2=80=93 9:00-10:30 Thursday Morning session I
1. Introduction
1.1. Administrivia, Agenda Bashing (chairs, 5 min)
1.2. WG Status (chairs, 10 min) [15/90]

2. WG I-Ds
2.1. Stateful PCE for GMPLS (Young Lee, 5 min) [20/90]
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10
2.2. Enhanced Errors (Zheng Haomian, 10 min) [30/90]
draft-ietf-pce-enhanced-errors-05

3. PCE as a Central Controller
3.1. Native IP (Aijun Wang, 5 min) [35/90]
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03
3.2. PCECC Extensions (Mahendra Negi (remote), 5 min) [40/90]
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-01
draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr-04
3.3. PCE Controlled ID space (Aijun Wang, 10 min) [50/90]
draft-li-pce-controlled-id-space-02

4. Segment Routing
4.1. SR Policy (Mike Koldychev (remote), 10 min) [60/90]
draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-02
4.2. Path Segment & Bi-directional SR (Cheng Li, 10 min) [70/90]
draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment-04
draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-04

5. Other Topics
5.1. Stateful PCE Inter-domain (Julien Meuric, 10 min) [80/90]
draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain-02
5.2. PCEP for BIER-TE (Ran Chen, 10 min) [90/90]
draft-chen-pce-bier-04

* Subject to change, Refer the link for the latest version.
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BR, Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Zhangxian (Xian) Sent: 18 March 2019 07:19 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. Xian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Adrian Farrel Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:02 PM Subject: IPR poll on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce To: , , , Cc: Hi authors, In preparation for Working Group last call on this draft, I'd like all authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance with IETF IPR rules. Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of: I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been disclosed to the IETF. I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been disclosed to the IETF. 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Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP = signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a = reason not to? 2.4. SR Policy Sub-TLVs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . 9 2.4.1. Preference Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 9 2.4.2. Binding SID Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 10 2.4.3. Segment List Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 11 2.4.3.1. Weight Sub-TLV 2.4.3.2. Segment Sub-TLV 2.4.4. Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV . . . . . . = . . . 27 2.4.5. Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 28 2.4.6. Policy Name Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 29 Regards, Tarek --_000_BN8PR06MB6289556736B7C5412DFE85FDFC470BN8PR06MB6289namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi authors,

 

The I-D =93draft-ie= tf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy=94 defines sub-tlvs for SR Policy attribut= es that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and its attributes. Id= eally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? I= s there a reason not to?

 

 

     2.4.  SR Policy Sub-TLVs  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=
 . . .   9
       2.4.1.  Preference Sub-TLV  . . . . . . . .=
 . . . . . . . . .   9

       2.4.2.  Binding SID Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . =
. . . . . . .  10


       2.4.3.  Segment List Sub-TLV  . . . . . . .=
 . . . . . . . . .  11


       2.4.3.1.  Weight Sub-TLV

  &n=
bsp;    2.4.3.2.=
  Segment Sub-TLV


       2.4.4.  Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV =
 . . . . . . . . .  27


       2.4.5.  Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . =
. . . . . . .  28


       2.4.6.  Policy Name Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . =
. . . . . . .  29


 


 


Regards,=



Tarek
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Hi Donald,=C2=A0

Thanks for your review, updated in the= working copy.=C2=A0

Thanks!=C2=A0
Dhruv


On Wed, Mar 20,= 2019 at 3:09 AM Donald Eastlake <d3= e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directo= rate's
ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the
IESG. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just
like any other last call comments.

The summary of the review is Ready.

Although the Security Considerations section is fairly short, it has
references to a number of relevant earlier RFCs that have quite
extensive Security Considerations sections. Furthermore PCEP was
previous extended to cover P2MP Traffic Engineered Label Switched
Paths and separately extended to be stateful. This draft's addition of<= br> support for stateful P2MP TE LSPs is not that big of a change in
Security Considerations from those in the earlier RFCs.

Editorial

Section 3.2, Page 5, "are same as" -> "are the same as&qu= ot;

Thanks,
Donald
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=C2=A0Donald E. Eastlake 3rd=C2=A0 =C2=A0+1-508-333-2270 (cell)
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(3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candidate path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION object. That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case. Thanks! Dhruv (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad wrote: > Hi authors, > > > > The I-D =E2=80=9Cdraft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy=E2=80=9D define= s sub-tlvs for SR > Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and i= ts > attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP > signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there = a > reason not to? > > > > > > 2.4 . SR Policy Sub-TLVs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . . 9 > > 2.4.1 . Preference Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . .= . . . . 9 > > 2.4.2 . Binding SID Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . = . . . . . 10 > > 2.4.3 . Segment List Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . .= . . . . 11 > > 2.4.3.1 . Weight Sub-TLV > > 2.4.3.2 . Segment Sub-TLV > > 2.4.4 . Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV . . . . .= . . . . 27 > > 2.4.5 . Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . .. . = . . . . . 28 > > 2.4.6 . Policy Name Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . = . . . . . 29 > > > > > > Regards, > > Tarek > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > --000000000000a6d47405848814e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tarek,=C2=A0

As a individual WG member, I think reu= sing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case(*) is problematic, mainly because -= =C2=A0

(1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were d= efined much before the BGP SR Policy work, such as -=C2=A0
- SR-ERO subob= ject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV)
- TE-PATH-BIND= ING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV)

(2) PCE= P has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5= 440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow that.=C2=A0<= /div>

(3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or = candidate path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATI= ON object.=C2=A0

That said, it is important that fields and encoding= are aligned between BGP and PCEP and I would request the authors to make s= ure that is the case.=C2=A0

Thanks!=C2=A0
Dhruv=C2=A0

=
(*) = We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec

On Tue, Mar 1= 9, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad <ts= aad.net@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi authors,=

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The I-D =E2=80=9Cdraf= t-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy=E2=80=9D defines sub-tlvs for SR Polic= y attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and its attr= ibutes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? I= s there a reason not to?

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.4.6.=C2=A0 Policy Name Sub-TLV . =
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Regards,


Tarek
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Message-ID: To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] PCE WG agenda for IETF 104 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:56:56 -0000 Hi Presenters-at-PCE-WG, Please send your slides to pce-chairs@ietf.org by Monday the 25th 1200 (local time in Prague); in order for us to upload material in advance for the meeting. In your slides make sure to focus on the open issues and the recent changes in your draft. Do consider sending slides in a PDF format to avoid any unexpected formatting issues. Safe travels! Regards, Dhruv PS. I find these guidelines for presentation from IDR as apt - https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/Checklist%20for%20presenting%20at%20an%= 20IDR%20meeting On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:23 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > > Hi WG, > > The preliminary PCE WG agenda for IETF 104 is published at - > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-pce/ > > We were not able to accommodate all the requests in a tight 90 mins > slot this time. > > To those on the agenda, do think about how to best utilise the > valuable F2F time during the meeting and what do you want to achieve > with your time. Please keep some time for Q&A and receiving feedback. > We urge all of you to continue to use the mailing list to introduce > the changes made in your draft, list any open issues, socialise new > ideas, ask for feedback etc. > > See you in Prague. > > Thanks! > PCE Chairs > > -- > > PCE Working Group Meeting =E2=80=93 9:00-10:30 Thursday Morning session I > > 1. Introduction > 1.1. Administrivia, Agenda Bashing (chairs, 5 min) > 1.2. WG Status (chairs, 10 min) [15/90] > > 2. WG I-Ds > 2.1. Stateful PCE for GMPLS (Young Lee, 5 min) [20/90] > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 > 2.2. Enhanced Errors (Zheng Haomian, 10 min) [30/90] > draft-ietf-pce-enhanced-errors-05 > > 3. PCE as a Central Controller > 3.1. Native IP (Aijun Wang, 5 min) [35/90] > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-03 > 3.2. PCECC Extensions (Mahendra Negi (remote), 5 min) [40/90] > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-01 > draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr-04 > 3.3. PCE Controlled ID space (Aijun Wang, 10 min) [50/90] > draft-li-pce-controlled-id-space-02 > > 4. Segment Routing > 4.1. SR Policy (Mike Koldychev (remote), 10 min) [60/90] > draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-02 > 4.2. Path Segment & Bi-directional SR (Cheng Li, 10 min) [70/90] > draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment-04 > draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-04 > > 5. Other Topics > 5.1. Stateful PCE Inter-domain (Julien Meuric, 10 min) [80/90] > draft-dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain-02 > 5.2. PCEP for BIER-TE (Ran Chen, 10 min) [90/90] > draft-chen-pce-bier-04 > > * Subject to change, Refer the link for the latest version. 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I understand your point; however, my concern is not s= o much on the PCEP protocol object definition, but more on the attribute(s)= alignment for the different protocol cases. I=92ll quote an example you gave for BSID TLV definition in both drafts.. draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy defines =93S=94, and =93I=94 flags= but those are missing from draft-sivabalan-pce-binding-label-sid * S-Flag: This flag encodes the "Specified-BSID-only" behavior. It is used by SRPM as described in section 6.2.3 in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy]. * I-Flag: This flag encodes the "Drop Upon Invalid" behavior. It is used by SRPM as described in section 8.2 in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy]. Similarly, draft-sivabalan-pce-binding-label-sid defines BT=3D0/1 behaviors= but those are missing from the other draft.. There may be other cases for SR-ERO too =96 e.g. missing =93SR Algorithm=94= , etc. I noticed a trend in LSR WG to define sub-TLVs that can be resused by multi= ple IGP protocols (e.g. the sub-TLVs defined in draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discover= y-security-support).. and I was wondering if this approach could be leverag= ed here too. Regards, Tarek From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:14 AM To: Tarek Saad Cc: "draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp Hi Tarek, As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV) - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV) (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.i= etf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow= that. (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case. Thanks! Dhruv (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad > wrote: Hi authors, The I-D =93draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy=94 defines sub-tlvs for= SR Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and= its attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP = signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a = reason not to? 2.4. SR Policy Sub-TLVs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .= . . 9 2.4.1. Preference Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 9 2.4.2. Binding SID Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 10 2.4.3. Segment List Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 11 2.4.3.1. Weight Sub-TLV 2.4.3.2. Segment Sub-TLV 2.4.4. Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV . . . . . . = . . . 27 2.4.5. Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 28 2.4.6. Policy Name Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 29 Regards, Tarek _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce --_000_BN8PR06MB6289DF776419F7AC13AF4D87FC410BN8PR06MB6289namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dhruv,

 

Thanks for the reply. I understand your point; howev= er, my concern is not so much on the PCEP protocol object definition, but m= ore on the attribute(s) alignment for the different protocol cases.

I=92ll quote an example you gave for BSID TLV defini= tion in both drafts..

 

draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy defines =93= S=94, and =93I=94 flags but those are missing from draft-sivabalan-pce-bind= ing-label-sid

 

      *  S-Flag:= This flag encodes the "Specified-BSID-only" behavior.=

       &nbs= p; It is used by SRPM as described in section 6.2.3 in

       &nbs= p; [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-poli= cy].

 

 

      *  I-Flag:= This flag encodes the "Drop Upon Invalid" behavior.  It

       &nbs= p; is used by SRPM as described in section 8.2 in

       &nbs= p; [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-poli= cy].

 

Similarly, draft-sivabalan-pce-binding-label-sid def= ines BT=3D0/1 behaviors but those are missing from the other draft..

There may be other cases for SR-ERO too =96 e.g. mis= sing =93SR Algorithm=94, etc.

 

I noticed a trend in LSR WG to define sub-TLVs that = can be resused by multiple IGP protocols (e.g. the sub-TLVs defined in draf= t-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support).. and I was wondering if this ap= proach could be leveraged here too.

 

Regards,

Tarek<=
/o:p>

 

 

From= : Dhruv Dhody <d= hruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:14 AM
To: Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
Cc: "draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org" &= lt;draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org>, "pce@ietf.o= rg" <pce@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy= -cp

 

= Hi Tarek, 

=  

= As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - 

=  

= (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - 

= - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV)

= - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV)=

=  

= (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow that. 

=  

= (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. 

=  

= That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case.&nb= sp;

=  

= Thanks! 

= Dhruv 

=  

= (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi authors,

 

The I-D =93draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy=94 defines sub= -tlvs for SR Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR p= olicy and its attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP signaling and hence can levera= ge the most of those definitions? Is there a reason not to?

 

 

     2.4.  SR Policy Sub-TLVs  . . . . . . =
. . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
       2.4.1.  Preference Sub-TLV&nbs=
p; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
       2.4.2.  Binding SID Sub-TLV . =
. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  1=
0
       2.4.3.  Segment List Sub-TLV&n=
bsp; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11
       2.4.3.1.  Weight Sub-TLV
       2.4.3.2.  Seg=
ment Sub-TLV
       2.4.4.  Explicit NULL Label Po=
licy Sub-TLV  . . . . . . . . .  27
       2.4.5.  Policy Priority Sub-TL=
V . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  2=
8
       2.4.6.  Policy Name Sub-TLV . =
. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  2=
9

 

 

Regards,

Tarek

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These are essential for repo= rting existing policies from the PCC to the PCE. [TS]: Agreed. However, as far as I see, draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-p= olicy covers the =93controller -> device=94 signaling only. The attributes = you mention are for reporting state from =93device -> controller=94. Regards, Tarek Thanks, Mike. From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:14 AM To: Tarek Saad Cc: draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp Hi Tarek, As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV) - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV) (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.i= etf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow= that. (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case. Thanks! Dhruv (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad > wrote: Hi authors, The I-D =93draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy=94 defines sub-tlvs for= SR Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and= its attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP = signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a = reason not to? 2.4. SR Policy Sub-TLVs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .= . . 9 2.4.1. Preference Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 9 2.4.2. Binding SID Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 10 2.4.3. Segment List Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 11 2.4.3.1. Weight Sub-TLV 2.4.3.2. Segment Sub-TLV 2.4.4. Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV . . . . . . = . . . 27 2.4.5. Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 28 2.4.6. Policy Name Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 29 Regards, Tarek _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce --_000_BN8PR06MB6289AD8778F83DBAB0F3431EFC410BN8PR06MB6289namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mike,

 

>> Hi Tarek, 

>> In addition to what Dhruv has said, I don= =92t believe draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy provides a way to enc= ode =93Protocol Origin=94, =93Originator ASN=94 and =93Originator Address= =94. These are essential for reporting existing policies from the PCC to the PCE.

[TS]: Agreed. However, as far as I see, draft-ietf-i= dr-segment-routing-te-policy covers the =93controller -> device=94 signa= ling only. The attributes you mention are for reporting state from =93devic= e -> controller=94.

 

Regards,

Tarek

 

Thanks,

Mike.

 

From: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>= ;
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
Cc: draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy= -cp

 

= Hi Tarek, 

=  

= As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - 

=  

= (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - 

= - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV)<= o:p>

= - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV)

=  

= (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow that. 

=  

= (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. 

=  

= That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case.&nb= sp;

=  

= Thanks! 

= Dhruv 

=  

= (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi authors,

 

The I-D =93draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy= =94 defines sub-tlvs for SR Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see = below) for SR policy and its attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve wha= t is supported with BGP signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a reason not to?=

 

 

     2.4.  SR Policy Sub-TLVs  . . . . . . =
. . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
       2.4.1.  Preference Sub-TLV&nbs=
p; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
       2.4.2.  Binding SID Sub-TLV . =
. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  1=
0
       2.4.3.  Segment List Sub-TLV&n=
bsp; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11
       2.4.3.1.  Weight Sub-TLV
       2.4.3.2.  Seg=
ment Sub-TLV
       2.4.4.  Explicit NULL Label Po=
licy Sub-TLV  . . . . . . . . .  27
       2.4.5.  Policy Priority Sub-TL=
V . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  2=
8
       2.4.6.  Policy Name Sub-TLV . =
. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  2=
9

 

 

Regards,

Tarek

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tarek, Yes, because draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp covers both "control= ler -> device" and "device -> controller" signaling, these extra attributes= are needed for us. I agree that draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy d= oes not need them because they are implicit in BGP. Thanks, Mike. From: Tarek Saad Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 12:29 PM To: Mike Koldychev (mkoldych) ; Dhruv Dhody Cc: draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp Hi Mike, >> Hi Tarek, >> In addition to what Dhruv has said, I don't believe draft-ietf-idr-segme= nt-routing-te-policy provides a way to encode "Protocol Origin", "Originato= r ASN" and "Originator Address". These are essential for reporting existing= policies from the PCC to the PCE. [TS]: Agreed. However, as far as I see, draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-p= olicy covers the "controller -> device" signaling only. The attributes you = mention are for reporting state from "device -> controller". Regards, Tarek Thanks, Mike. From: Dhruv Dhody > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:14 AM To: Tarek Saad > Cc: draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp Hi Tarek, As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV) - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV) (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.i= etf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow= that. (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case. Thanks! Dhruv (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad > wrote: Hi authors, The I-D "draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy" defines sub-tlvs for SR = Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and its= attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP sign= aling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a reas= on not to? 2.4. SR Policy Sub-TLVs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .= . . 9 2.4.1. Preference Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 9 2.4.2. Binding SID Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 10 2.4.3. Segment List Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 11 2.4.3.1. Weight Sub-TLV 2.4.3.2. Segment Sub-TLV 2.4.4. Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV . . . . . . = . . . 27 2.4.5. Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 28 2.4.6. Policy Name Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 29 Regards, Tarek _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce --_000_CY4PR11MB0055F0B1EBEF7D40729CB884D3410CY4PR11MB0055namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Tarek,

 

Yes, because draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-= cp covers both “controller -> device” and “device ->= ; controller” signaling, these extra attributes are needed for us. I = agree that draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy does not need them because they are implicit in BGP.

 

Thanks,

Mike.

 

From: Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> =
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 12:29 PM
To: Mike Koldychev (mkoldych) <mkoldych@cisco.com>; Dhruv Dhod= y <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy= -cp

 

Hi Mike,

 

>> Hi Tarek, 

>> In addition to what Dhruv has said, I don&#= 8217;t believe draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy provides a way to e= ncode “Protocol Origin”, “Originator ASN” and ̶= 0;Originator Address”. These are essential for reporting existing pol= icies from the PCC to the PCE.

[TS]: Agreed. However, as far as I see, draft-ietf-i= dr-segment-routing-te-policy covers the “controller -> device̶= 1; signaling only. The attributes you mention are for reporting state from = “device -> controller”.

 

Regards,

Tarek

 

Thanks,

Mike.

 

From: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@= gmail.com>
Cc: draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy= -cp

 

= Hi Tarek, 

=  

= As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - 

=  

= (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - 

= - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV)<= o:p>

= - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV)

=  

= (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow that. 

=  

= (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. 

=  

= That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case.&nb= sp;

=  

= Thanks! 

= Dhruv 

=  

= (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi authors,

 

The I-D “draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-pol= icy” defines sub-tlvs for SR Policy attributes that are carried in BG= P (see below) for SR policy and its attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achi= eve what is supported with BGP signaling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a reason not to?=

 

 

     2.4.  SR Policy Sub-TLVs  . . . . . . =
. . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
       2.4.1.  Preference Sub-TLV&nbs=
p; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
       2.4.2.  Binding SID Sub-TLV . =
. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  1=
0
       2.4.3.  Segment List Sub-TLV&n=
bsp; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11
       2.4.3.1.  Weight Sub-TLV
       2.4.3.2.  Seg=
ment Sub-TLV
       2.4.4.  Explicit NULL Label Po=
licy Sub-TLV  . . . . . . . . .  27
       2.4.5.  Policy Priority Sub-TL=
V . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  2=
8
       2.4.6.  Policy Name Sub-TLV . =
. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .  2=
9

 

 

Regards,

Tarek

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--_000_CY4PR11MB0055F0B1EBEF7D40729CB884D3410CY4PR11MB0055namp_-- From nobody Wed Mar 20 13:09:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E7F131110; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:09:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , Daniele Ceccarelli , db3546@att.com, draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org, pce-chairs@ietf.org, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <155311256358.14892.3534390531799239808.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:09:23 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Protocol Action: 'PCEP Extension for WSON Routing and Wavelength Assignment' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:09:31 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'PCEP Extension for WSON Routing and Wavelength Assignment' (draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext-17.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Path Computation Element Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Martin Vigoureux and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext/ Technical Summary This document provides the Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for the support of Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON). Path provisioning in WSONs requires a routing and wavelength assignment (RWA) process. From a path computation perspective, wavelength assignment is the process of determining which wavelength can be used on each hop of a path and forms an additional routing constraint to optical path computation. Working Group Summary The document is supported by the WG and no particular issue was raised during the WG last call. Document Quality The protocol is widely implemented but the shepherd is not aware of any commercial implementation of the extensions defined in this document. The document is signed by authors from different vendors, operators and research centers showing interest in these extensions. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Daniele Ceccarelli Who is the Responsible Area Director? 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From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tarek Saad Sent: 20 March 2019 21:46 To: Dhruv Dhody Cc: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp Hi Dhruv, Thanks for the reply. I understand your point; however, my concern is not s= o much on the PCEP protocol object definition, but more on the attribute(s)= alignment for the different protocol cases. I'll quote an example you gave for BSID TLV definition in both drafts.. draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy defines "S", and "I" flags but tho= se are missing from draft-sivabalan-pce-binding-label-sid * S-Flag: This flag encodes the "Specified-BSID-only" behavior. It is used by SRPM as described in section 6.2.3 in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy]. * I-Flag: This flag encodes the "Drop Upon Invalid" behavior. It is used by SRPM as described in section 8.2 in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy]. [[[Dhruv Dhody]]] Your point is well taken, I would ask the authors of the = SR documents to do this exercise. I see some overlap in authors as well who= could take the lead. But due care should be taken in the description within the PCEP and BGP con= text, because BSID as currently described in PCEP is attached to a candidat= e path v/s BSID in BGP is described towards the full SR policy. Similarly, draft-sivabalan-pce-binding-label-sid defines BT=3D0/1 behaviors= but those are missing from the other draft.. [[[Dhruv Dhody]]] You are right. This aligns to the C bit in SR-ERO. A ques= tion to BGP draft authors on why this is not in BGP! There may be other cases for SR-ERO too - e.g. missing "SR Algorithm", etc. [[[Dhruv Dhody]]] I guess this would be needed when a PCE does not prepare = the label stack but provide NAI and flex algo is enabled. Looks like nobody= uses this yet and thus was not noticed :). We could define a new NAI type = to handle this case. Thanks for engaging and providing instances where there are mismatch. I wou= ld encourage authors to do an alignment check. Thanks! Dhruv I noticed a trend in LSR WG to define sub-TLVs that can be resused by multi= ple IGP protocols (e.g. the sub-TLVs defined in draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discover= y-security-support).. and I was wondering if this approach could be leverag= ed here too. Regards, Tarek From: Dhruv Dhody > Date: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:14 AM To: Tarek Saad > Cc: "draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org" >, "pce@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp Hi Tarek, As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PCEP in this case= (*) is problematic, mainly because - (1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were defined much be= fore the BGP SR Policy work, such as - - SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment sub-TLV) - TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SID sub-TLV) (2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per https://tools.i= etf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow= that. (3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each LSP (or candida= te path) we carry its associated Policy information in the ASSOCIATION obje= ct. That said, it is important that fields and encoding are aligned between BGP= and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that is the case. Thanks! Dhruv (*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM Tarek Saad > wrote: Hi authors, The I-D "draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy" defines sub-tlvs for SR = Policy attributes that are carried in BGP (see below) for SR policy and its= attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP sign= aling and hence can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a reas= on not to? 2.4. SR Policy Sub-TLVs . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .= . . . 9 2.4.1. Preference Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 9 2.4.2. Binding SID Sub-TLV . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . = . . . . 10 2.4.3. Segment List Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . . 11 2.4.3.1. Weight Sub-TLV 2.4.3.2. Segment Sub-TLV 2.4.4. Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV . . . . . . = . . . 27 2.4.5. Policy Priority Sub-TLV . . . . . . . . .. . . .= . . . 28 2.4.6. Policy Name Sub-TLV . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . = . . . . 29 Regards, Tarek _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce --_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D9C1E61BLREML503MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Tarek,

 =

See inline&= #8230;

 =

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tarek Saad
Sent: 20 March 2019 21:46
To: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: pce@ietf.org; draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Pce] Comment on draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy= -cp

 

Hi Dhruv,

 

Thanks for the reply. I underst= and your point; however, my concern is not so much on the PCEP protocol obj= ect definition, but more on the attribute(s) alignment for the different pr= otocol cases.

I’ll quote an example you= gave for BSID TLV definition in both drafts..

 

draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-= te-policy defines “S”, and “I” flags but those are = missing from draft-sivabalan-pce-binding-label-sid

 

      = *  S-Flag: This flag encodes the "Specified-BSID-only" behav= ior.

     &= nbsp;   It is used by SRPM as described in section 6.2.3 in<= /o:p>

     &= nbsp;   [I-D.ietf-spring-segme= nt-routing-policy].

 

 

      = *  I-Flag: This flag encodes the "Drop Upon Invalid" behavio= r.  It

     &= nbsp;   is used by SRPM as described in section 8.2 in=

     &= nbsp;   [I-D.ietf-spring-segme= nt-routing-policy].

&n= bsp;

[[[Dhruv Dhody]]] Your = point is well taken, I would ask the authors of the SR documents to do this= exercise. I see some overlap in authors as well who could take the lead.

But due care should be = taken in the description within the PCEP and BGP context, because BSID as c= urrently described in PCEP is attached to a candidate path v/s BSID in BGP is described towards the full SR policy.  <= /o:p>

 

Similarly, draft-sivabalan-pce-= binding-label-sid defines BT=3D0/1 behaviors but those are missing from the= other draft..

[[[Dhruv Dhody]]] You a= re right. This aligns to the C bit in SR-ERO. A question to BGP draft autho= rs on why this is not in BGP!

 

There may be other cases for SR= -ERO too – e.g. missing “SR Algorithm”, etc.

[[[Dhruv Dhody]]] I gue= ss this would be needed when a PCE does not prepare the label stack but pro= vide NAI and flex algo is enabled. Looks like nobody uses this yet and thus was not noticed :). We could define a new NAI type = to handle this case.

 

Thanks for engaging and= providing instances where there are mismatch. I would encourage authors to= do an alignment check.

 

Thanks!

Dhruv

 

I noticed a trend in LSR WG to = define sub-TLVs that can be resused by multiple IGP protocols (e.g. the sub= -TLVs defined in draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support).. and I was= wondering if this approach could be leveraged here too.

 

Regards,

Tarek

 

 

 

Hi Tarek, 

 

As a individual WG member, I think reusing BGP sub-TLV in PC= EP in this case(*) is problematic, mainly because - =

 

(1) PCEP already has some other objects and TLVs which were = defined much before the BGP SR Policy work, such as - 

- SR-ERO subobject to carry SID (compared to BGP's Segment s= ub-TLV)

- TE-PATH-BINDING TLV for BSID (compared to BGP's Binding SI= D sub-TLV)

 

(2) PCEP has a very specific format for all its TLVs as per&= nbsp;https://to= ols.ietf.org/html/rfc5440#section-7.1, you would notice that BGP does not follow that. 

 

(3) SR-POLICY is a top level container, in PCEP-SR for each = LSP (or candidate path) we carry its associated Policy information in the A= SSOCIATION object. 

 

That said, it is important that fields and encoding are alig= ned between BGP and PCEP and I would request the authors to make sure that = is the case. 

 

Thanks! 

Dhruv 

 

(*) We were able to do this successfully in case of Flowspec=

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:12 AM= Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

Hi authors,

 

The I-D “draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing= -te-policy” defines sub-tlvs for SR Policy attributes that are carrie= d in BGP (see below) for SR policy and its attributes. Ideally, with PCEP can achieve what is supported with BGP signaling and he= nce can leverage the most of those definitions? Is there a reason not to?

 

 

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Regards,


Tarek

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--_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D9C1E61BLREML503MBXchi_-- From nobody Sun Mar 24 13:33:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36A3120094; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 13:33:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155345960562.18059.15671478853988510107@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 13:33:25 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-10.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 20:33:26 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) Authors : Dhruv Dhody Jonathan Hardwick Vishnu Pavan Beeram Jeff Tantsura Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-10.txt Pages : 109 Date : 2019-03-24 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs. The data model includes configuration and state data. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Mar 24 14:08:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FC6120106; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rfMSHZgAdgVD; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd29.google.com (mail-io1-xd29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70DFD120100; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd29.google.com with SMTP id x3so6003193iol.10; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qDxeBucvlzPrMSky1qa47Xc7gG84MeCFZiinVpBU6TQ=; b=LMUEKSE79YQNmQ4ANpJCpo1a+4gUT0zuhFeScBSVZuaBcPlEyJjt00noO/z7UD611V hJJDOUSt6AjVvSpRzOSuOzwlay1+BbuF0OGEHizJ7yYAu8V1zgsPdLtJJeNCxS7gUbcJ 9UpNWigHbC0k0TApTHwyl6ffMoWKaJYCijRpcw5DZAY6sol2u/2VF4N425g3OOZKPMUZ 0EeKitm8moSjUBHzHy1OArPPRD+EqOb336Er3VqSB/VLYtxEo2rZ7nxqTTiQ/JJ/JziC t4h/nbW6F5oN35ykngJP/6OHEwqr97cYzZYiGNzxIg1CbCWG9g/gkblSrwGMMj8R7fNO Fjgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qDxeBucvlzPrMSky1qa47Xc7gG84MeCFZiinVpBU6TQ=; b=l2L4VC7a9v3H/12kkAZcT2Jvt3umOVlRSLsc3YHQw4RLhY7Q6cr/wup6Q48sckqRoR d9fbteV0+LfeCUbu75Z821+ptKBYJGyk6xTEpYZStC8fBW6YCy4OMErbiqAbpr5zYqj1 VkKTBKINeTr1KbznlzEmhfxzFTstQm/h982X4LbCUF7STBUxHXY9q31cQDJRfTH2YcNk 7VecaAWAcsi+ea02PRcIH5tzLVUnZ6IJHW2iPJ5WDaJUSYWyzu8ciBjopzctrPVLQLHP pWZQHR0tpRnym1g0wHrXw79fMvYY5EKXGeumIUIM2zi1u148YW6skfVxLegjOJUH+nJW cN/A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVpmYdOdPSfoJUBoaI3ui6x60twXJ2UR/KaI0rh4lbU0l+J8ghv cf6sWub8a5O8qW+3aDxj1L6AZf0604qe9zN4SEQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyvESEz9zAfRvrKGFZqRUh9Qut1T8A2DeJAoXyHe9dlyRbOw85HuZ1vW+Xsy5P2dr13tKEDMlAOT2aHyQ7kenI= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:ef12:: with SMTP id k18mr14680480ioh.171.1553461674519; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:07:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <154328751678.23848.17617047655308813382@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <154328751678.23848.17617047655308813382@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:07:18 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mahesh Jethanandani Cc: yang-doctors@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang.all@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004830ef0584dd7bbc" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 21:08:02 -0000 --0000000000004830ef0584dd7bbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mahesh, Apologies for a late reply to your review. Being stuck in a long flight finally gave me enough time to fix up the indentation in the model :) An update (-10) has been posted. More details inline... On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani > Review result: On the Right Track > > Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking at the draft from a YA= NG > perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the Right Tr= ack=E2=80=9D > because > of some of the points discussed below. > > Summary: > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path > Computation > Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between a Path > Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between > two > PCEs. The data model includes configuration data and state data (status > information and counters for the collection of statistics). > > Comments: > > General > > - The module uses indentation that varies all over the module, from 2 > spaces to > 5. Please fix the module to have consistent indentation. > Used 2 spaces now. > > - The module makes heavy use of groupings. They are great if they are bei= ng > used in multiple places. But I seem to see single usage of groupings, whi= ch > makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all groupings that are used > only > once into the module. > > All groupings that were used only once are now removed. > Abstract: > > It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially if they have already > been > defined already in another RFC. Case in point, "state data". This term ha= s > been > defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list it in the Terminology an= d > Notation section, as has been done with other definitions. > > The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]: > > o configuration data > > o state data > Done. > > Introduction: > > Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These are YANG 1.1 modules > after > all. > Done. > > Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model. > > Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged version of the tree > diagram. > What would really help to understand the design of the model would be to > place > the full tree diagram at the end of the section, and move sections 5.3 to > 5.7. > directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the full diagram to get to > the > design sections is painful to read. > Done. > > Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules > > - Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced in the model, so there > is a > normative reference to them in the draft. > Done. > > - Please expand the reference to different RFCs to include the title of t= he > RFC, and not just the number. > Done. > > - The reference to tls-server and tls-client should be to > I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not an RFC as yet. Also, the > document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. What is the RFC editor > supposed > to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned to this draft?? I thin= k > you > want to refer to I-D that contain those modules. > Done. > > - What is "PCEP common"? That term has not been defined anywhere in the > document, but is used in the YANG model. > > Removed. > - What is the 'identify pcep' for? > Removed. > > - Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolean? Since YANG nodes are > hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat prefixes like > 'admin-status' > in node names such as 'admin-status-up', both where it is defined and > where it > is used (under admin-status). > Changed. > > - Where are the different operational status definitions defined? Can tha= t > RFC > be referenced? Same for Session state, Association Type, Objective > Function. > > References added. > - Could the YANG module use existing definitions? For example could the > module > use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or use isis-area defined i= n > the > ISIS YANG Module. > > Updated. > - Can the document use more descriptive names for features such as 'gco'. > Updated. > > - If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does it need to be a uint32? > Same > for the range of 0..255. > Corrected. > > - RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-alive-timer' or > 'max-dead-timer'. If > they are max value, can they not be expressed as part of the range for > 'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'? Same for 'min-keep-alive-timer' and > 'min-dead-timer'. > > You are right that these are not explicitly stated in 5440, but are needed to set what is the acceptable range of these values as received in the open message from a peer. These are different from the max value as part of the range allowed by the protocol. You would also find these in our PCEP MIB RFCs. > - What is the default value for 'admin-status'? > set now to enabled (true). > > - The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a header with each of the > leafs > as bits in the header. In that case, it would be better if this was > defined as > a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of type uint8 and boolean. > Same > for the grouping called 'capability' > > Updated. But the priority fields are kept outside of bits/bit. Also in case of capability, fields that are not part of RFC5088/RFC5089 capability bit fields are kept outside. > - The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or not" is hardly a description > for the > leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a description of the feature > 'pce-initiated'. > > Updated. > - Could description "Valid at PCC" be improved upon? > > Updated. > - Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. Why is key-string defined as > 'type > string' or 'type hex-string', and not 'type binary'? Is it possible to > reuse > definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types? > > Updated according to the Key chain RFC that allows both ASCII and Hex (instead of binary), i think this is better aligned to other related work. > - I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot of the nodes defined are > generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as rw. For example, the li= st > 'path-keys' carries a description "The list of path-keys generated by the > PCE". > If so, should this not be marked 'config false'. I would suggest authors > take a > more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed rw and which ones are r= o. > Other examples include 'req-id' and 'retrieved'. > > The examples you cited are already 'ro'. I did a check throughout the document as well. > - Can this error-message and description be reconciled? > > error-message > "The Path-key should be retreived"; > description > "When Path-Key has been retreived"; > > Updated. > - It is great to see that extensive amount of statistics are required to = be > implemented by the model. How many implementations actually support all > these > statistics? What would happen if implementations support a small number o= f > these statistics? In other words, are all these statistics required to be > maintained/implemented? > > We have kept most of these as optional and not mandated it, these are also aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC. > - In addition, a lot of the statistics have when statements. Since these > are > statistics maintained by the system, why the when statement? Does it mean > that > even if the statistics are written by the system, they are not valid (for > reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more likely that they are only > written when the role is ether of a 'pce' or 'pcc-and-pce', in which case > reading for other roles would return 0 values. > > It is the latter case, where some statistics are written based on the role. Do you think this usage of 'when' is incorrect and needs changing? Thanks again for your detailed review. Regards, Dhruv --0000000000004830ef0584dd7bbc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mahesh,

Apologies for a late reply = to your review. Being stuck in a long flight finally gave me enough time to= fix up the indentation in the model :)=C2=A0

An update (-10) has be= en posted.=C2=A0

More details inline...=C2=A0

On Tue, Nov 27, 2= 018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote:
Reviewer: Mahesh Jethananda= ni
Review result: On the Right Track

Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08

I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking at the draft from a YANG=
perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the Right Trac= k=E2=80=9D because
of some of the points discussed below.

Summary:

This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path Computat= ion
Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between t= wo
PCEs.=C2=A0 The data model includes configuration data and state data (stat= us
information and counters for the collection of statistics).

Comments:

General

- The module uses indentation that varies all over the module, from 2 space= s to
5. Please fix the module to have consistent indentation.

Used 2 spaces now.=C2=A0

- The module makes heavy use of groupings. They are great if they are being=
used in multiple places. But I seem to see single usage of groupings, which=
makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all groupings that are used o= nly
once into the module.


All groupings that were used only once are= now removed.

=C2=A0
Abstract:

It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially if they have already bee= n
defined already in another RFC. Case in point, "state data". This= term has been
defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list it in the Terminology and<= br> Notation section, as has been done with other definitions.

The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 configuration data

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 state data

Done.
=C2=A0

Introduction:

Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These are YANG 1.1 modules = after
all.

Done.

=C2=A0

Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model.

Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged version of the tree diag= ram.
What would really help to understand the design of the model would be to pl= ace
the full tree diagram at the end of the section, and move sections 5.3 to 5= .7.
directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the full diagram to get to t= he
design sections is painful to read.

Done. <= /div>
=C2=A0

Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules

- Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced in the model, so there i= s a
normative reference to them in the draft.

D= one.

=C2=A0

- Please expand the reference to different RFCs to include the title of the=
RFC, and not just the number.

Done.
<= br>
=C2=A0

- The reference to tls-server and tls-client should be to
I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not an RFC as yet. Also, the document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. What is the RFC editor suppo= sed
to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned to this draft?? I think = you
want to refer to I-D that contain those modules.

<= /div>
Done.

=C2=A0

- What is "PCEP common"? That term has not been defined anywhere = in the
document, but is used in the YANG model.


Removed.

=C2=A0
=
- What is the 'identify pcep' for?

<= div>
= Removed.

=C2=A0

- Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolean? Since YANG nodes are hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat prefixes like 'admin-= status'
in node names such as 'admin-status-up', both where it is defined a= nd where it
is used (under admin-status).

Changed.
=C2=A0

- Where are the different operational status definitions defined? Can that = RFC
be referenced? Same for Session state, Association Type, Objective Function= .


References added.

=C2= =A0
- Could the YANG module use existing definitions? For example could the mod= ule
use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or use isis-area defined in = the
ISIS YANG Module.


Updated.

=C2=A0
=
- Can the document use more descriptive names for features such as 'gco= '.

Updated.

=C2=A0=

- If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does it need to be a uint32? S= ame
for the range of 0..255.

Corrected.

=C2=A0

- RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-alive-timer' or 'max= -dead-timer'. If
they are max value, can they not be expressed as part of the range for
'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'? Same for 'min-keep-= alive-timer' and
'min-dead-timer'.


You are right that these are not explicitl= y stated in 5440, but are needed to set what is the acceptable range of the= se values as received in the open message from a peer. These are different = from the max value as part of the range allowed by the protocol. You would = also find these in our PCEP MIB RFCs.

=C2=A0
- What is the default value for 'admin-status'?

set now to enabled (true).

=C2=A0

- The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a header with each of the= leafs
as bits in the header. In that case, it would be better if this was defined= as
a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of type uint8 and boolean. Sam= e
for the grouping called 'capability'


Updated.=C2=A0
But the priority fields ar= e kept outside of bits/bit.=C2=A0
Also in case of capability, fields tha= t are not part of RFC5088/RFC5089 capability bit fields are kept outside.= =C2=A0

=C2=A0
- The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or not" is hardly a descr= iption for the
leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a description of the feature &= #39;pce-initiated'.


Updated.

=C2=A0
=
- Could description "Valid at PCC" be improved upon?


Updated.

=C2=A0
=
- Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. Why is key-string defined= as 'type
string' or 'type hex-string', and not 'type binary'? Is= it possible to reuse
definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types?


Updated according to the Key chain RFC tha= t allows both ASCII and Hex (instead of binary), i think this is better ali= gned to other related work.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
- I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot of the nodes defined are generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as rw. For example, the list=
'path-keys' carries a description "The list of path-keys gener= ated by the PCE".
If so, should this not be marked 'config false'. I would suggest au= thors take a
more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed rw and which ones are ro.=
Other examples include 'req-id' and 'retrieved'.


The examples you cited are already 'ro= '. I did a check throughout the document as well.=C2=A0

=
=C2=A0
- Can this error-message and description be reconciled?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 error= -message
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "The Path-key should be retreived";
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 descr= iption
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "When Path-Key has been retreived";


Updated.

=C2=A0
=
- It is great to see that extensive amount of statistics are required to be=
implemented by the model. How many implementations actually support all the= se
statistics? What would happen if implementations support a small number of<= br> these statistics? In other words, are all these statistics required to be maintained/implemented?


We have kept most of these as optional and= not mandated it, these are also aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC.
=C2=A0
- In addition, a lot of the statistics have when statements. Since these ar= e
statistics maintained by the system, why the when statement? Does it mean t= hat
even if the statistics are written by the system, they are not valid (for reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more likely that they are only written when the role is ether of a 'pce' or 'pcc-and-pce',= in which case
reading for other roles would return 0 values.


It is the latter case, where some statisti= cs are written based on the role. Do you think this usage of 'when'= is incorrect and needs changing?=C2=A0

Thanks again for your detail= ed review.=C2=A0

Regards,
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--0000000000004830ef0584dd7bbc-- From nobody Sun Mar 24 14:08:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE4A120100 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i5ejakoZ_F46 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DFE4120106 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id v4so6017672ioj.5 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:08:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZAoe88n2DwoNm2s5D6dr0JFJzP1SNPB51oDIHIrlAuw=; b=QB0h8mGzjHpaZCAH5uTigeP8XbA8jQpnYzLIAPcaAy7TVhkv9zC673KJRmQPFitF5A UbD4MA7TI5c9KDE0B+1ipHoJ3ub3hzrAQGqV1ujpsw/mIMfEaEGgooEf0voWfTBxACgE EQiGvNVUv/ob4MpQyUV03UnM+xf9WV+6zNGoKSq0R2xVVuBXQlXhqX3U/rY0Buz41/KI EJo0XDDgn/xILkAmgk4zxoFjVryh/oYoE8oH2859gQrFDUqh4XgO9KR2LQmdoXlyBQuW feKDghjxAWtccJ0xLCf4B1uOyjve1MxPMXQcihEw/nVEePioQTHpkmVORRNTTtLEfw01 7qJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZAoe88n2DwoNm2s5D6dr0JFJzP1SNPB51oDIHIrlAuw=; b=oKpZpUFeWafFcTJ1GikM57t8HOJ/gAW7sKQFFjAJtEWPOju8QXQwXiadyEikDlsOZ0 0wP1ESdUzBshxDz2QPPmIAUns/OzCxFlEVRugQhLq0+2a3wxoFc0mnq+PnviI4oRY35G 4e2hGPOIr9INLCbpIXOrteiVJLF124+vUCqOtAjg6eiBBtq7w7kxJ1G4S5uz814a2dqV M+f9aE6sl3VObcB8psaHbFJo+Ona001zQ5KUzcIwCwdIgH5znNEg+lcUHPed5KbsIuiF UOVnMwoXmG9C025VJCwaJV0y9PwNuTc5UfGByYRlcuHNUSbL/jX1l9fbuDwTvOIaXCbo Bdrg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW3hZTWNAAGPoVbgfJ+ot3VLbjzjamq87cifsRpuRF/chOd9sus NaJZXqCBAHuHrK9pMidV5XH0QQTHc7RpnabfRuI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwGd5UwfLGKzRyOec4QKQtHVXeMG1FFlFseg+uR3/O16vcivy0QwnVBE8z2Q83Ow1MrhopH8UgYbnNTQOEyMwQ= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:3ec3:: with SMTP id l186mr13752820ioa.255.1553461727693; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:08:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <153960851213.19528.13097587822287903427@ietfa.amsl.com> <00b701d46570$8b2b4bc0$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8D81D2E2@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> <02c801d46702$f2f31740$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <02c801d46702$f2f31740$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:08:11 +0100 Message-ID: To: tom petch Cc: Dhruv Dhody , "pce@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 21:08:52 -0000 Hi Tom, Thanks again for your review. I made an update to the draft (-10). More inline.. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 6:53 PM tom petch wrote: > > Dhruv > > I will have some more in a day or so. Meanwhile, > > I note that some of the lines exceed the limit allowed for an RFC, e.g. > in the tree diagrams. > done. > The convention (rule almost) is to use the same prefix for the same > module in all cases; here you have > import ietf-pcep { > prefix p; > and > module ietf-pcep { > ... > prefix pcep; > well I updated the prefix at module ietf-pcep to "p". Using a big prefix makes keeping everything within 80 characters difficult. > I find it useful for the YANG reference clauses to include the name of > the RFC as well as the RFC number e.g. > reference > "RFC4360: BGP Extended Communities Attribute. > RFC5668: 4-Octet AS Specific BGP Extended Community."; > Updated. > > You say > > RFC Ed.: In this section, replace all occurrences of 'XXXX' with > the > > actual RFC number ... > > and then > > import ietf-te { prefix "te"; reference "RFC XXXX"; } > > import ietf-te-types { prefix "te-types"; reference "RFC > > XXXX"; > > import ietf-tls-server { prefix "tls-server"; reference "RFC > > XXXX"; } > > import ietf-tls-client { prefix "tls-client"; reference > "RFC > > XXXX"; > > > > Mmm I think not! > > Updated. > > And, I like all the references in the YANG module but they need to be > in > > the references of the I-D. I think you are missing > > > > 3209 > > 5088 > > 5089 > > 5520 > > 5541 > > 5557 > > 6536 > > 8232 > > 8306 > > > > while > > 8253 > > is there but Informative; my preference is for such references to be > > Normative. > > Updated. > > A common practice is to have a section just prior to the module proper > > which gives references to all the RFC which the module references, > which > > obviates the appearance of warnings about 'Unused Reference'. > > Updated. Thanks for your continued reviews of all the yang work and keeping everyone on their toes :) Thanks, Dhruv > > Tom Petch > > > > > > > Dhruv > > > PS. The yang errors in the datatracker are in the imported yang > > modules. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:32 PM wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > > > directories. > > > > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of > the > > IETF. > > > > > > > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation > > Element > > > > Communications Protocol (PCEP) > > > > Authors : Dhruv Dhody > > > > Jonathan Hardwick > > > > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > > > Jeff Tantsura > > > > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt > From nobody Mon Mar 25 00:28:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2F5120353; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155349890026.22365.6482526606250507769@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:28:20 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Young Lee Haomian Zheng Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Victor Lopez Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2019-03-25 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 25 00:37:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF203120368 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:37:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3s_vO1Zk6dsV for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7D7F120353 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id D159FA2CC42B9802FD52 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:37:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:37:20 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.5]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.224]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:37:18 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "pce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt Thread-Index: AQHU4tx7r5aw9pYTJkCNiG4DaCFsVKYb88Uw Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:37:17 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D104E47@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <155349890026.22365.6482526606250507769@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <155349890026.22365.6482526606250507769@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.220.69.130] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:37:25 -0000 Hi WG, This version merged two WG drafts as one for Stateful PCEP for GMPLS per WG= chairs' suggestion.=20 Note that we have two WG drafts: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iet= f-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft= -ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp-06 This update is basically merging th= e second into the first.=20 Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.o= rg Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:28 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extension= s for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks Authors : Young Lee Haomian Zheng Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Victor Lopez Zafar Ali Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2019-03-25 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains information about the paths already present in the network, but those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpl= s-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-= 11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Mon Mar 25 01:18:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FA9120368 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:18:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wSa1Nb2bBa6p for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x12c.google.com (mail-it1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20F9D120365 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id y63so911597itb.5 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:18:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EQGxGuj+qvarmqcKZ7KMWyK9DFr4yEPMbEynzxtqtqw=; b=MgBIgPDE3AlzSdMkJ91xxv4GIBUf5BBHj55cLTkLP4G/QAh/krWSICKUBb34h0iUFR 4NU58RjfDH1WaXm99rgWA2qQ57CeYi3MJeP4zsk9bIUVAWSWf+LWGPyQujvgIk4D4svD YlxTKq8UpHh5rW4M7i7joUGaiKtwBKETZCqEWp92ScAUGt0l5fplLgrUjBkk4uJs8nfB Q0A9Ck16NUmqV4Mr5ayMHo4JpLdDQqcEX8rFvyJ6qk1jFgI6YfmbQrA0x7Iqs5D0MZM1 u09nvn/X4KQBzY+9bZgx5LCJQGC+ET9CA1sYuDprGa3gRaeHMmokcWmZx9xZelLO18el oTQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EQGxGuj+qvarmqcKZ7KMWyK9DFr4yEPMbEynzxtqtqw=; b=FJJNBjtLeTEV4VjnSamnBBFRtd5ELJTRLJ/C8C5VBPbj8/dKJeu4lq/rBZcoaeUpP0 X+kUJ3L/cxMn8vqpGbhycsLSPfM6FqTXc6HU3tpj8yu5urT9WsqCurDm6sPAv3xuRmYD oquxjrONfSE+XaRGpckqIsgE+TLgO7L0nUzG8qBZi/MTg7Xqn0UUayYTDf4vu32eXIqb 2AmnwGLy8wD+j0XGsmjRU2i9t0but1LRArGX8S/RnlvvhTrS/Ncdv/D+fH5te8K6oHev K5VdGZVdgw4DrphFCX1FfvD+gLnwSf37zF4V7jxbktpiZ++GRDj5aEX71Ke1fNggmISX 83WA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWrkT/NKSH0zIogCy/XFdK8x4JMQzA0ajl22scEy5UjI+zLiDYS jGHiF3Nw49oDcHVITgZ46+6O+vCw0W7epYWH9RY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxaM/no7gRsrnq6mCih+QJ4z0DL18Nh/DInp0PVNWECi11QfvhZr/Y8KZWj9v46Vz4LCUlgXVkGpHjQ4/hiRoE= X-Received: by 2002:a02:6d12:: with SMTP id m18mr17312075jac.54.1553501916112; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:18:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <155349890026.22365.6482526606250507769@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D104E47@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D104E47@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:17:59 +0100 Message-ID: To: Leeyoung Cc: "pce@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:18:39 -0000 Hi WG, There are no technical change here, just a merge of 2 WG I-Ds that can now be progressed as one. This is on the agenda at the PCE WG meeting on Thursday as well. Hi Authors, Thanks for doing the merge and posting it now for the WG to look at. Lets plan another editorial pass to integrate the work much better so that it does not feel disjointed. Thanks! PCE Chairs On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:37 AM Leeyoung wrote: > > Hi WG, > > This version merged two WG drafts as one for Stateful PCEP for GMPLS per WG chairs' suggestion. > > Note that we have two WG drafts: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-10 and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp-06 This update is basically merging the second into the first. > > Thanks. > Young > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:28 AM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: pce@ietf.org > Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. > > Title : Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks > Authors : Young Lee > Haomian Zheng > Oscar Gonzalez de Dios > Victor Lopez > Zafar Ali > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11.txt > Pages : 20 > Date : 2019-03-25 > > Abstract: > The Path Computation Element (PCE) facilitates Traffic Engineering > (TE) based path calculation in large, multi-domain, multi-region, or > multi-layer networks. The PCE communication Protocol (PCEP) has been > extended to support stateful PCE functions where the PCE retains > information about the paths already present in the network, but > those extensions are technology-agnostic. This memo provides > extensions required for PCEP so as to enable the usage of a stateful > PCE capability in GMPLS-controlled networks. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-11 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Mon Mar 25 09:32:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E551B120411; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:32:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ff-B1NTBA7kd; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta7.iomartmail.com (mta7.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96FC2120416; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta7.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2PGWCpc002910; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:32:12 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3491C22040; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:32:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EB952203A; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:32:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V (155.254.broadband5.iol.cz [88.100.254.155]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2PGW6VC015305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:32:11 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:32:05 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <03d201d4e328$4bc1b510$e3451f30$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AdTfOGIvwXIBuQBOScqWQ01cW0wMfgD7w8NQ X-Originating-IP: 88.100.254.155 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24512.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--18.591-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--18.591-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24512.001 X-TMASE-Result: 10--18.591300-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 1G/3DZEt2zGNw1/pVxSOdrp2HEZ4IFgao4jW7zSDg9nagsZM0qVv13FD 0I0jlEDdF16bSyysW++sSBFSvpqaU8LE8efKowoD2Hdvv/MGE3US12tj9Zvd8zE4yJtMp5hr2d8 mtRIRsUOqRU2sf4OufLrxtp7kf93VhOhmpQI70nmzI1v7J4hECilayzmQ9QV0zAdJD7JeNMOjNI Y2f3R+9Q55JxecDIsaoQzmX4oFrF1BEeXXYJxA3n9NanCUA4Veoh0OpwQli5EA9Tpq5qSGJtSOC P9jQZmC2Bzgv79yUtcW9P3I5+C6DXBUeTqf+P8EliwpJdZauwchotH7bEpEMqNIF3ryQt73YID9 Y+Lh/Txv3MjL7O2g2e/D3Q9+3uMcecQgICqoWUFPuMJi/ZAk8WTkYBruSle3Z5yuplze9ptRlaQ 7m7aP9XwT7b+NFu8fEIO2kSgR31kXomoYx2wKDuS5t8CJHaljIgHLa9slyWLOy04LRuwZITlfbB u0/EGBpM+SgKz9+WLy3NHUi0it5RnsS71Oo/HwhsE+u3nnCfAJDfFL7Mvp7VpbYq2f4jz+jcTvI EzCJBCjXupII2mqtuJR8nVOeqFwEd0YyW6tLblWgOVCl/hN1YyOql5H9hUNnNgWxWMgxzJ1gnek L1c23sFRM7Fec6lGc+WVPHWeR3BZJq170V074MOvQCMFyZ9Gbd6rGhWOAwTdeAKnvBMxfHMuLKl M8AY7+5p4wMh0gq/0MXQJxjyP0h3CyRF8RETzz5rIW0RbS5gecJFiVRR1ghxBeDNpVcRynlwc2g baAF7/9B88ESAspoYj9NPA4+LITX7PJ/OU3vL+xOhjarOnHis3zPQeiEbe+gtHj7OwNO2FR9Hau 8GO7gP90fJP9eHt X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:32:19 -0000 Hi, Good afternoon. My name is Adrian and I'll be your Document Shepherd for this journey. As this draft is progressing through working group last call, I thought I would do my review now and save a little time later. These comments may seem a little negative, but I hope you can address them with small changes. Thanks, Adrian === Abstract s/deployment of Stateful PCE(s)/deployment of Stateful PCEs/ --- Section 1 para 1 needs a reference to 5440 --- 1. s/for stateful PCE(s) in/for stateful PCEs in the/ --- 1. The initial section of the document focuses on end to end (E2E) inter-domain TE LSP. Section 3.3.1 describe the operations for the Per Domain LSP that could be stitched. Maybe... Sections 3.1 and 3.2 focus on end to end (E2E) inter-domain TE LSPa. Section 3.3.1 describes the operations for stitching Per Domain LSPs. --- I am not certain that you need to use upper case terms in this document. I found "SHOULD" in sections 6 and 7.2, and "MAY" twice in seciton 3.1 and once in section 3.3.1. Also "RECOMMENDED" in section 6. Is this really appropriate in a document that is describing an approach, not specifying bits on the wire or implementation behavior? That would allow you to dispose of section 1.1 and the two references. --- Section 3 While the terms PE and CE are defined and used unambiguously, I suspect that they will cause some confusion because they are such well known terms in networking. --- 3. All PCE types herein (i.e., PE or CE) are assumed to be 'stateful PCE'. Is it not plausible to have a stateless C-PCE working with a stateful P-PCE? I think that the relationship of child to parent is similar to the relationship of PCC to PCE, but when we talk about a stateful PCE we don't also talk about a stateful PCC. So when you say that the C-PCE must be stateful, you are necessarily talking about its relationship with its PCCs. If you are determined to limit the scope of this document to PCE hierarchies where both the parent and child are stateful (you are allowed to make this choice if that's what the WG wants) then you need to make this clear in the Abstract and Introduction. --- Am I confused about delegation? You have... The P-PCE has no information about the content of the child domains. Clearly the C-PCE will report the path of the LSP (segment) that crosses the domain for which it is responsible, but how can the P-PCE make any change to that LSP without visibility into the child domain? But you go on to talk about delegation as if it could work: such as... LSP Control Delegation (CE-PE,PE-CE): a C-PCE grants to the P-PCE the right to update LSP attributes on one or more LSPs When you draw the similarity between PCC-PCE and C-PCE-P-PCE delegation as... Note that this hierarchy is recursive and thus a Label Switching Router (LSR), as a PCC could delegate the control to a PCE, which may delegate to its parent, which may further delegate it to its parent (if it exist or needed). Similarly update operations could also be applied recursively. ... I think that you miss that the PCC and PCE can both see the TED, but the C-PCE and P-PCE have very different visibility into the domain. --- 3. Just clarity... OLD [I-D.ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions] defines the H-PCE capability TLV that should be used in the OPEN message to advertise the H-PCE capability. [RFC8231] defines the stateful PCE capability TLV. The presence of both TLVs represent the support for stateful H-PCE operations as described in this document. NEW [I-D.ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions] defines the H-PCE Capability TLV that is used in the OPEN message to advertise the H-PCE capability. [RFC8231] defines the Stateful PCE Capability TLV used in the OPEN message to indicate stateful support. The presence of both TLVs in an OPEN message indicates the support for stateful H-PCE operations as described in this document. END --- 3. I feel that this paragraph is confusing. I think the referenced draft also needs some work on the terms stateful and synchronization, but we can focus on the document at hand. OLD [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] describes the procedures to allow a stateful communication between PCEs for various use-cases. The procedures and extensions as described in Section 3 of [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] are also applicable to Child and Parent PCE communication. The SPEAKER-IDENTITY-TLV (defined in [RFC8232]) is included in the LSP object to identify the Ingress (PCC). The PLSP-ID used in the forwarded PCRpt by the C-PCE to P-PCE is same as the original one used by the PCC. NEW [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] describes the procedures to allow communication between stateful PCEs that serve the same domain. The procedures and extensions as described in Section 3 of [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] are also applicable to Child and Parent PCE communication. The SPEAKER-IDENTITY-TLV (defined in [RFC8232]) is included in the LSP object to identify the Ingress (PCC). The PLSP-ID used in the forwarded PCRpt by the C-PCE to P-PCE is same as the original one used by the PCC. END However, this has made [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] a normative reference. I suspect you don't want to go there. That will mean you need to write the normative text here (which may be a bit more of a rewrite) and simply add... Similar procedures are used in [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] to synchronize state between stateful PCEs that serve the same domain. Furthermore, the term "Ingress" in unclear. You probably do not mean the ingress of the LSP, per se. You probably mean the ingress of the LSP in the domain that the C-PCE serves. You also have the term "ingress PCE" (in 3.1) which is such a useful term that you should probably call it out with a definition. --- 3.1 s/applicable to PCEP session/applicable to a PCEP session/ --- 3.1 OLD Taking the sample hierarchical domain topology example from [RFC6805] as the reference topology for the entirety of this document. NEW We use the sample hierarchical domain topology example from [RFC6805] as the reference topology for the entirety of this document. It is shown in Figure 1. END --- 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, and 3.3.1 It is confusing to have steps 1 to 11 as per 6805 and then introduce new steps 1 to 4 in 3.1. We need to: - not confuse these with steps 1 to 4 of 6805 - understand where in the sequence the steps are preformed Furthermore, "initial" steps 1 to 8 are introduced in 3.2. Are these in place of steps 1 to 4 in 3.1 or in addition? And where in the sequence are they performed? How do they relate to steps 1 to 8 of 6805. There is some slightly better description in 3.2, but only steps 1 and 2 seem to be truly "initial". It all needs some more clarity. By the time I got to 3.3.1 I really couldn't work out the steps at all. --- 3.2 OLD To update an LSP, a PCE send to the PCC, an LSP Update Request using a PCUpd message. NEW To update an LSP, a PCE sends an LSP Update Request to the PCC using a PCUpd message. END --- 3.3. PCE Initiation Operation Maybe... 3.3. PCE Initiation of LSPs --- 4.1 How about this for a slightly tidier figure 2? +----------+ | Parent | /| PCE | / +----------+ / / Stateful / / P-PCE / / / / Stateful+-----+ / / C-PCE | PCE |/ / Hi | Hi | / +-----+ / +---+ +---+ / +---+ +---+ + LSR +--+ LSR +........................+ LSR +--+ LSR + + H1 + + H2 + / + H3 + + H4 + +---+ +---+\ +-----+/ /+---+ +---+ \ | PCE | / \ | Lo | / Stateful \ +-----+ / C-PCE \ / Lo \+---+ +---+/ + LSR +--+ LSR + + L1 + + L2 + +---+ +---+ --- 4.1 You have... All procedures described in Section 3 are applicable to inter-layer path setup as well. I wonder if you want to explain that the layers are considered as separate domains. --- 4.2 OLD [RFC8453] describes framework for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN), where each Provisioning Network Controller (PNC) is equivalent to C-PCE and P-PCE is the Multi-Domain Service Coordinator (MDSC). The Per domain stitched LSP as per the Hierarchical PCE architecture described in Section 3.3.1 and Section 4.1 is well suited for ACTN. NEW [RFC8453] describes a framework for the Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN), where each Provisioning Network Controller (PNC) is equivalent to a C-PCE, and the P-PCE is the Multi-Domain Service Coordinator (MDSC). The Per Domain stitched LSP as per the Hierarchical PCE architecture described in Section 3.3.1 and Section 4.1 is well suited for ACTN. END --- 4.2 OLD In ACTN framework, Customer Network Controller (CNC) can request the MDSC to check if there is a possibility to meet Virtual Network (VN) requirements (before requesting for VN provision). The H-PCE architecture as described in [RFC6805] can supports via the use of PCReq and PCRep messages between the P-PCE and C-PCEs. NEW In the ACTN framework, a Customer Network Controller (CNC) can request the MDSC to check whether there is a possibility to meet Virtual Network (VN) requirements before requesting for the VN to be provisioned. The H-PCE architecture as described in [RFC6805] can support this function using PCReq and PCRep messages between the P-PCE and C-PCEs. END --- 5.1 I think you need to rephrase this section. I don't think there is any clear meaning to an LSP being involved in H-PCE. But some of this issue can't be resolved until you have worked out what it is that a stateful H-PCE actually does. As previously noted, it would not appear to have access to the per-domain TEDs, so what is it doing with an LSP that is reported or delegated to it? Given what 5.2 says, reporting LSPs (not for delegation, but simply reporting them) seems entirely pointless! --- I noticed that the Table of Contents doesn't match the actual sections starting from Section 5. Possibly sections 4 and 5 were supposed to be merged --- 6. says The LSP state in the PCRpt message SHOULD continue to use this. Can you explain when a PCRpt might deviate from this "SHOULD"? --- 6. Thus securing the PCEP session (between the P-PCE and the C-PCE) using mechanism like TCP Authentication Option (TCP-AO) [RFC5925] or Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC8253] is RECOMMENDED. What does 'like' mean? Is there anything specific you have in mind? --- You have I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-yang in your references section, but no actual reference to it. --- A number of references need to be promoted to Normative consistent with how you have used them in this document. 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[109.123.118.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm24851784wrw.66.2019.03.25.09.50.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Daniel King X-Google-Original-Sender: "Daniel King" From: To: , Cc: References: <03d201d4e328$4bc1b510$e3451f30$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <03d201d4e328$4bc1b510$e3451f30$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:50:25 +0100 Message-ID: <007c01d4e32a$da61c880$8f255980$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdTfOGIvwXIBuQBOScqWQ01cW0wMfgD7w8NQAABYf5A= Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:50:34 -0000 Dear Shepherd, Thank you for the constructive treatment of our I-D. Indeed, the document would benefit from the text updates and we absolutely agree the need to remove any ambigiouty in the procedure text defined. Also, the ASCII art optimisation is always greatfully received. We (the authors) will update the I-D and respond to the list/Shepherd on how we addressed the comments. BR, Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: 25 March 2019 17:32 To: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: Review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-hpce Hi, Good afternoon. My name is Adrian and I'll be your Document Shepherd for this journey. As this draft is progressing through working group last call, I thought I would do my review now and save a little time later. These comments may seem a little negative, but I hope you can address them with small changes. Thanks, Adrian === Abstract s/deployment of Stateful PCE(s)/deployment of Stateful PCEs/ --- Section 1 para 1 needs a reference to 5440 --- 1. s/for stateful PCE(s) in/for stateful PCEs in the/ --- 1. The initial section of the document focuses on end to end (E2E) inter-domain TE LSP. Section 3.3.1 describe the operations for the Per Domain LSP that could be stitched. Maybe... Sections 3.1 and 3.2 focus on end to end (E2E) inter-domain TE LSPa. Section 3.3.1 describes the operations for stitching Per Domain LSPs. --- I am not certain that you need to use upper case terms in this document. I found "SHOULD" in sections 6 and 7.2, and "MAY" twice in seciton 3.1 and once in section 3.3.1. Also "RECOMMENDED" in section 6. Is this really appropriate in a document that is describing an approach, not specifying bits on the wire or implementation behavior? That would allow you to dispose of section 1.1 and the two references. --- Section 3 While the terms PE and CE are defined and used unambiguously, I suspect that they will cause some confusion because they are such well known terms in networking. --- 3. All PCE types herein (i.e., PE or CE) are assumed to be 'stateful PCE'. Is it not plausible to have a stateless C-PCE working with a stateful P-PCE? I think that the relationship of child to parent is similar to the relationship of PCC to PCE, but when we talk about a stateful PCE we don't also talk about a stateful PCC. So when you say that the C-PCE must be stateful, you are necessarily talking about its relationship with its PCCs. If you are determined to limit the scope of this document to PCE hierarchies where both the parent and child are stateful (you are allowed to make this choice if that's what the WG wants) then you need to make this clear in the Abstract and Introduction. --- Am I confused about delegation? You have... The P-PCE has no information about the content of the child domains. Clearly the C-PCE will report the path of the LSP (segment) that crosses the domain for which it is responsible, but how can the P-PCE make any change to that LSP without visibility into the child domain? But you go on to talk about delegation as if it could work: such as... LSP Control Delegation (CE-PE,PE-CE): a C-PCE grants to the P-PCE the right to update LSP attributes on one or more LSPs When you draw the similarity between PCC-PCE and C-PCE-P-PCE delegation as... Note that this hierarchy is recursive and thus a Label Switching Router (LSR), as a PCC could delegate the control to a PCE, which may delegate to its parent, which may further delegate it to its parent (if it exist or needed). Similarly update operations could also be applied recursively. ... I think that you miss that the PCC and PCE can both see the TED, but the C-PCE and P-PCE have very different visibility into the domain. --- 3. Just clarity... OLD [I-D.ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions] defines the H-PCE capability TLV that should be used in the OPEN message to advertise the H-PCE capability. [RFC8231] defines the stateful PCE capability TLV. The presence of both TLVs represent the support for stateful H-PCE operations as described in this document. NEW [I-D.ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions] defines the H-PCE Capability TLV that is used in the OPEN message to advertise the H-PCE capability. [RFC8231] defines the Stateful PCE Capability TLV used in the OPEN message to indicate stateful support. The presence of both TLVs in an OPEN message indicates the support for stateful H-PCE operations as described in this document. END --- 3. I feel that this paragraph is confusing. I think the referenced draft also needs some work on the terms stateful and synchronization, but we can focus on the document at hand. OLD [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] describes the procedures to allow a stateful communication between PCEs for various use-cases. The procedures and extensions as described in Section 3 of [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] are also applicable to Child and Parent PCE communication. The SPEAKER-IDENTITY-TLV (defined in [RFC8232]) is included in the LSP object to identify the Ingress (PCC). The PLSP-ID used in the forwarded PCRpt by the C-PCE to P-PCE is same as the original one used by the PCC. NEW [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] describes the procedures to allow communication between stateful PCEs that serve the same domain. The procedures and extensions as described in Section 3 of [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] are also applicable to Child and Parent PCE communication. The SPEAKER-IDENTITY-TLV (defined in [RFC8232]) is included in the LSP object to identify the Ingress (PCC). The PLSP-ID used in the forwarded PCRpt by the C-PCE to P-PCE is same as the original one used by the PCC. END However, this has made [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] a normative reference. I suspect you don't want to go there. That will mean you need to write the normative text here (which may be a bit more of a rewrite) and simply add... Similar procedures are used in [I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync] to synchronize state between stateful PCEs that serve the same domain. Furthermore, the term "Ingress" in unclear. You probably do not mean the ingress of the LSP, per se. You probably mean the ingress of the LSP in the domain that the C-PCE serves. You also have the term "ingress PCE" (in 3.1) which is such a useful term that you should probably call it out with a definition. --- 3.1 s/applicable to PCEP session/applicable to a PCEP session/ --- 3.1 OLD Taking the sample hierarchical domain topology example from [RFC6805] as the reference topology for the entirety of this document. NEW We use the sample hierarchical domain topology example from [RFC6805] as the reference topology for the entirety of this document. It is shown in Figure 1. END --- 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, and 3.3.1 It is confusing to have steps 1 to 11 as per 6805 and then introduce new steps 1 to 4 in 3.1. We need to: - not confuse these with steps 1 to 4 of 6805 - understand where in the sequence the steps are preformed Furthermore, "initial" steps 1 to 8 are introduced in 3.2. Are these in place of steps 1 to 4 in 3.1 or in addition? And where in the sequence are they performed? How do they relate to steps 1 to 8 of 6805. There is some slightly better description in 3.2, but only steps 1 and 2 seem to be truly "initial". It all needs some more clarity. By the time I got to 3.3.1 I really couldn't work out the steps at all. --- 3.2 OLD To update an LSP, a PCE send to the PCC, an LSP Update Request using a PCUpd message. NEW To update an LSP, a PCE sends an LSP Update Request to the PCC using a PCUpd message. END --- 3.3. PCE Initiation Operation Maybe... 3.3. PCE Initiation of LSPs --- 4.1 How about this for a slightly tidier figure 2? +----------+ | Parent | /| PCE | / +----------+ / / Stateful / / P-PCE / / / / Stateful+-----+ / / C-PCE | PCE |/ / Hi | Hi | / +-----+ / +---+ +---+ / +---+ +---+ + LSR +--+ LSR +........................+ LSR +--+ LSR + + H1 + + H2 + / + H3 + + H4 + +---+ +---+\ +-----+/ /+---+ +---+ \ | PCE | / \ | Lo | / Stateful \ +-----+ / C-PCE \ / Lo \+---+ +---+/ + LSR +--+ LSR + + L1 + + L2 + +---+ +---+ --- 4.1 You have... All procedures described in Section 3 are applicable to inter-layer path setup as well. I wonder if you want to explain that the layers are considered as separate domains. --- 4.2 OLD [RFC8453] describes framework for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN), where each Provisioning Network Controller (PNC) is equivalent to C-PCE and P-PCE is the Multi-Domain Service Coordinator (MDSC). The Per domain stitched LSP as per the Hierarchical PCE architecture described in Section 3.3.1 and Section 4.1 is well suited for ACTN. NEW [RFC8453] describes a framework for the Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN), where each Provisioning Network Controller (PNC) is equivalent to a C-PCE, and the P-PCE is the Multi-Domain Service Coordinator (MDSC). The Per Domain stitched LSP as per the Hierarchical PCE architecture described in Section 3.3.1 and Section 4.1 is well suited for ACTN. END --- 4.2 OLD In ACTN framework, Customer Network Controller (CNC) can request the MDSC to check if there is a possibility to meet Virtual Network (VN) requirements (before requesting for VN provision). The H-PCE architecture as described in [RFC6805] can supports via the use of PCReq and PCRep messages between the P-PCE and C-PCEs. NEW In the ACTN framework, a Customer Network Controller (CNC) can request the MDSC to check whether there is a possibility to meet Virtual Network (VN) requirements before requesting for the VN to be provisioned. The H-PCE architecture as described in [RFC6805] can support this function using PCReq and PCRep messages between the P-PCE and C-PCEs. END --- 5.1 I think you need to rephrase this section. I don't think there is any clear meaning to an LSP being involved in H-PCE. But some of this issue can't be resolved until you have worked out what it is that a stateful H-PCE actually does. As previously noted, it would not appear to have access to the per-domain TEDs, so what is it doing with an LSP that is reported or delegated to it? Given what 5.2 says, reporting LSPs (not for delegation, but simply reporting them) seems entirely pointless! --- I noticed that the Table of Contents doesn't match the actual sections starting from Section 5. Possibly sections 4 and 5 were supposed to be merged --- 6. says The LSP state in the PCRpt message SHOULD continue to use this. Can you explain when a PCRpt might deviate from this "SHOULD"? --- 6. Thus securing the PCEP session (between the P-PCE and the C-PCE) using mechanism like TCP Authentication Option (TCP-AO) [RFC5925] or Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC8253] is RECOMMENDED. What does 'like' mean? Is there anything specific you have in mind? --- You have I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-yang in your references section, but no actual reference to it. --- A number of references need to be promoted to Normative consistent with how you have used them in this document. RFC 4655 RFC 5520 RFC 5925 RFC 8232 RFC 8253 I-D.litkowski-pce-state-sync I-D.ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions I-D.dugeon-pce-stateful-interdomain From nobody Tue Mar 26 02:59:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13801202C1; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 02:56:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: Cc: Martin Vigoureux , Deborah Brungard , Vishnu Beeram , Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , Adrian Farrel , Scott Mansfield , Dhruv Dhody , Path Computation Element Discussion List , Nicolai Leymann , John Drake , Alvaro Retana , Daniele Ceccarelli , Loa Andersson , Lou Berger , Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List , Fatai Zhang , scott.mansfield@ericsson.com, itu-t-liaison@iab.org, Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Discussion List , Julien Meuric X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155359419797.20696.5453093815420919008.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 02:56:37 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 02:59:26 -0700 Subject: [Pce] New Liaison Statement, "Reply to LS on OTNT Standardization Work Plan" X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:56:46 -0000 Title: Reply to LS on OTNT Standardization Work Plan Submission Date: 2019-03-26 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1636/ From: Scott Mansfield To: hiroshi.ota@itu.int Cc: John Drake ,Deborah Brungard ,Julien Meuric ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,Adrian Farrel ,Scott Mansfield ,Fatai Zhang ,Vishnu Beeram ,Path Computation Element Discussion List ,Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Discussion List ,Martin Vigoureux ,Alvaro Retana ,Daniele Ceccarelli ,Dhruv Dhody ,Loa Andersson ,Lou Berger ,Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org,Nicolai Leymann ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org Response Contacts: scott.mansfield@ericsson.com Technical Contacts: scott.mansfield@ericsson.com Purpose: For information Body: Thank you for your continued interest in the work of the IETF related to OTNT standardization. Below is a list of the recent RFCs and working group drafts related to OTNT. * Recent Relevant RFC * RFC8282 * Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) for Inter-Layer MPLS and GMPLS Traffic Engineering * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8282/ * RFC8283 * An Architecture for Use of PCE and the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) in a Network with Central Control * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8283/ * RFC8363 * GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in Support of Flexi-Grid Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing (DWDM) Networks * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8363/ * RFC8413 * Framework for Scheduled Use of Resources * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8413/ * RFC 8453 * Framework for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8453/ * RFC 8469 * Recommendation to Use the Ethernet Control Word * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8469/ * Working Group Updates * Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) * A framework for Management and Control of DWDM optical interface parameters * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk/ * YANG data model for Flexi-Grid media-channels * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-media-channel-ya ng/ * YANG data model for Flexi-Grid Optical Networks * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-yang/ * Applicability of GMPLS for B100G Optical Transport Network * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicabil ity/ * A YANG Data Model for L1 Connectivity Service Model (L1CSM) * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang/ * A YANG Data Model for Optical Transport Network Topology * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang/ * OTN Tunnel YANG Model * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-tunnel-model/ * Information Encoding for WSON with Impairments Validation * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode/ * Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSONs) with Impairments Validation * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info/ * A Yang Data Model for WSON Tunnel * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-tunnel-model/ * A YANG Data Model for WSON (Wavelength Switched Optical Networks) * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-yang/ * Path Computation Element (pce) * PCEP Extension for WSON Routing and Wavelength Assignment * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext/ * PCEP extensions for GMPLS * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/ * PCEP Extension for Flexible Grid Networks * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-flexible-grid/ * Path Computation Element (PCE) Protocol Extensions for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks * 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 13:30:49 -0000 Hi Mahesh, Tom, Got it, will make the necessary change soon. Where I need help is the tree creation, even though I use '--tree-line-length' I faced the issue with overrunning the 80 characters. pyang --ietf -f tree --tree-line-length=3D68 --tree-depth=3D10 ietf-pcep@2019-03-24.yang --ietf >ietf-pcep.tree That made me pick a shorter prefix, but happy to learn if there is a better way out there! Thanks! Dhruv On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:16 PM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > tom petch wrote: > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested in the opinion of a > > YANG > > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and say that a longer prefix give= s > > you line length problems. YANG does allow statements to span lines, as > > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that is not a very good > > reason; I would prefer something of two characters or more. > > > > I note that IANA Considerations says > > Prefix: pcep > > which would be my first choice even if I then have to span lines. > > I strongly agree. Since the prefix is actually part of the IANA > registry and needs to be unique, I think you should use a longer > prefix. "pcep" seems reasonable. If you run into line length > problems, I'll be glad to help you fix them. > > Before this document goes to the RFC editor, I suggest you run the > tool: > > pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69 > > on these modules, in order to get them formatted consistently with the > rest of the IETF modules. > > > > > > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use the prefix that it > > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not recommended practice > > > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server tlss. > > > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with > > Name: ietf-pcep > > What about > > module ietf-pcep-stats { > > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate section, in Security > > and must be covered in IANA Considerations. > > > > The problem with > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for ... > > as a reference is that when it appears in the text of the I-D, then it > > is as > > [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group] > > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by tools so the RFC > > Editor cannot miss it. > > > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be plain text as in > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for .... > > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted by eye and so might > > be missed. Hence I suggest using > > > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for > > Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs"; > > > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace YYYY with the RFC > > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group > > > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for > > "I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing: PCEP Extensions for Segment > > and so on for the others (of which there are several) > > > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon to appear once > > at the start of the I-D. > > > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for multiple I-Ds was > > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RFC Editor Note for > > each, and not to use the I-D name. > > > > HTH > > > > Tom Petch > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" > > Cc: ; ; > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of > > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > Hi Mahesh, > > > > Apologies for a late reply to your review. Being stuck in a long flight > > finally gave me enough time to fix up the indentation in the model :) > > > > An update (-10) has been posted. > > > > More details inline... > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani > > > > wrote: > > > > > Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani > > > Review result: On the Right Track > > > > > > Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking at the draft from = a > > YANG > > > perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the Righ= t Track=E2=80=9D > > > because > > > of some of the points discussed below. > > > > > > Summary: > > > > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path > > > Computation > > > Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between a > > Path > > > Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or > > between > > > two > > > PCEs. The data model includes configuration data and state data > > (status > > > information and counters for the collection of statistics). > > > > > > Comments: > > > > > > General > > > > > > - The module uses indentation that varies all over the module, from 2 > > > spaces to > > > 5. Please fix the module to have consistent indentation. > > > > > > > Used 2 spaces now. > > > > > > > > - The module makes heavy use of groupings. They are great if they are > > being > > > used in multiple places. But I seem to see single usage of groupings, > > which > > > makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all groupings that are > > used > > > only > > > once into the module. > > > > > > > > All groupings that were used only once are now removed. > > > > > > > > > Abstract: > > > > > > It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially if they have > > already > > > been > > > defined already in another RFC. Case in point, "state data". This ter= m > > has > > > been > > > defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list it in the Terminolog= y > > and > > > Notation section, as has been done with other definitions. > > > > > > The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]: > > > > > > o configuration data > > > > > > o state data > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction: > > > > > > Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These are YANG 1.1 module= s > > > after > > > all. > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model. > > > > > > Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged version of the tre= e > > > diagram. > > > What would really help to understand the design of the model would be > > to > > > place > > > the full tree diagram at the end of the section, and move sections 5.= 3 > > to > > > 5.7. > > > directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the full diagram to ge= t > > to > > > the > > > design sections is painful to read. > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules > > > > > > - Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced in the model, so > > there > > > is a > > > normative reference to them in the draft. > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Please expand the reference to different RFCs to include the title > > of the > > > RFC, and not just the number. > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > - The reference to tls-server and tls-client should be to > > > I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not an RFC as yet. Also, > > the > > > document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. What is the RFC editor > > > supposed > > > to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned to this draft?? I > > think > > > you > > > want to refer to I-D that contain those modules. > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is "PCEP common"? That term has not been defined anywhere in > > the > > > document, but is used in the YANG model. > > > > > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > > > - What is the 'identify pcep' for? > > > > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolean? Since YANG nodes > > are > > > hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat prefixes like > > > 'admin-status' > > > in node names such as 'admin-status-up', both where it is defined and > > > where it > > > is used (under admin-status). > > > > > > > Changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Where are the different operational status definitions defined? Can > > that > > > RFC > > > be referenced? Same for Session state, Association Type, Objective > > > Function. > > > > > > > > References added. > > > > > > > > > - Could the YANG module use existing definitions? For example could > > the > > > module > > > use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or use isis-area > > defined in > > > the > > > ISIS YANG Module. > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > - Can the document use more descriptive names for features such as > > 'gco'. > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > - If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does it need to be a > > uint32? > > > Same > > > for the range of 0..255. > > > > > > > Corrected. > > > > > > > > > > > > - RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-alive-timer' or > > > 'max-dead-timer'. If > > > they are max value, can they not be expressed as part of the range fo= r > > > 'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'? Same for 'min-keep-alive-timer' > > and > > > 'min-dead-timer'. > > > > > > > > You are right that these are not explicitly stated in 5440, but are > > needed > > to set what is the acceptable range of these values as received in the > > open > > message from a peer. These are different from the max value as part of > > the > > range allowed by the protocol. You would also find these in our PCEP MI= B > > RFCs. > > > > > > > > > - What is the default value for 'admin-status'? > > > > > > > set now to enabled (true). > > > > > > > > > > > > - The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a header with each of > > the > > > leafs > > > as bits in the header. In that case, it would be better if this was > > > defined as > > > a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of type uint8 and > > boolean. > > > Same > > > for the grouping called 'capability' > > > > > > > > Updated. > > But the priority fields are kept outside of bits/bit. > > Also in case of capability, fields that are not part of RFC5088/RFC5089 > > capability bit fields are kept outside. > > > > > > > > > - The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or not" is hardly a > > description > > > for the > > > leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a description of the feature > > > 'pce-initiated'. > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > - Could description "Valid at PCC" be improved upon? > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > - Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. Why is key-string defined a= s > > > 'type > > > string' or 'type hex-string', and not 'type binary'? Is it possible t= o > > > reuse > > > definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types? > > > > > > > > Updated according to the Key chain RFC that allows both ASCII and Hex > > (instead of binary), i think this is better aligned to other related > > work. > > > > > > > - I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot of the nodes defined > > are > > > generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as rw. For example, th= e > > list > > > 'path-keys' carries a description "The list of path-keys generated by > > the > > > PCE". > > > If so, should this not be marked 'config false'. I would suggest > > authors > > > take a > > > more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed rw and which ones > > are ro. > > > Other examples include 'req-id' and 'retrieved'. > > > > > > > > The examples you cited are already 'ro'. I did a check throughout the > > document as well. > > > > > > > > > - Can this error-message and description be reconciled? > > > > > > error-message > > > "The Path-key should be retreived"; > > > description > > > "When Path-Key has been retreived"; > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > - It is great to see that extensive amount of statistics are required > > to be > > > implemented by the model. How many implementations actually support > > all > > > these > > > statistics? What would happen if implementations support a small > > number of > > > these statistics? In other words, are all these statistics required t= o > > be > > > maintained/implemented? > > > > > > > > We have kept most of these as optional and not mandated it, these are > > also > > aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC. > > > > > > > - In addition, a lot of the statistics have when statements. Since > > these > > > are > > > statistics maintained by the system, why the when statement? Does it > > mean > > > that > > > even if the statistics are written by the system, they are not valid > > (for > > > reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more likely that they are > > only > > > written when the role is ether of a 'pce' or 'pcc-and-pce', in which > > case > > > reading for other roles would return 0 values. > > > > > > > > It is the latter case, where some statistics are written based on the > > role. > > Do you think this usage of 'when' is incorrect and needs changing? > > > > Thanks again for your detailed review. > > > > Regards, > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > -------- > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pce mailing list > > > Pce@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yang-doctors mailing list > > yang-doctors@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors From nobody Tue Mar 26 07:01:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 14:39:26 -0000 Hi Martin, The newer version of pyang worked! Thanks for your help! I found the full tree useful when I am searching for a leaf in the yang models and understand how it fits in the overall tree. Thus I see value in both. We can also consider if we should also update 5.2-5.6 additionally. Thanks! Dhruv On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > Dhruv Dhody wrote: > > Hi Mahesh, Tom, > > > > Got it, will make the necessary change soon. > > > > Where I need help is the tree creation, even though I use > > '--tree-line-length' I faced the issue with overrunning the 80 > > characters. > > > > pyang --ietf -f tree --tree-line-length=3D68 --tree-depth=3D10 > > ietf-pcep@2019-03-24.yang --ietf >ietf-pcep.tree > > Have you tried using pyang 1.7.8? When I run that the tree seems to > fit the line lengths. > > > That made me pick a shorter prefix, but happy to learn if there is a > > better way out there! > > Personally, I'm not too fond of very large tree diagrams. I prefer to > split them into smaller diagrams. So I like your overview diagram in > section 5.1. I would then probably add a small diagram in each of the > section 5.2-5.6, and remove secion 5.7 completely. But this is just > my personal preference! > > > > /martin > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:16 PM Martin Bjorklund wrote= : > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > tom petch wrote: > > > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested in the opinion of = a > > > > YANG > > > > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and say that a longer prefix = gives > > > > you line length problems. YANG does allow statements to span lines= , as > > > > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that is not a very go= od > > > > reason; I would prefer something of two characters or more. > > > > > > > > I note that IANA Considerations says > > > > Prefix: pcep > > > > which would be my first choice even if I then have to span lines. > > > > > > I strongly agree. Since the prefix is actually part of the IANA > > > registry and needs to be unique, I think you should use a longer > > > prefix. "pcep" seems reasonable. If you run into line length > > > problems, I'll be glad to help you fix them. > > > > > > Before this document goes to the RFC editor, I suggest you run the > > > tool: > > > > > > pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69 > > > > > > on these modules, in order to get them formatted consistently with th= e > > > rest of the IETF modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use the prefix that = it > > > > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not recommended practi= ce > > > > > > > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server tlss. > > > > > > > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with > > > > Name: ietf-pcep > > > > What about > > > > module ietf-pcep-stats { > > > > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate section, in Secur= ity > > > > and must be covered in IANA Considerations. > > > > > > > > The problem with > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for ... > > > > as a reference is that when it appears in the text of the I-D, then= it > > > > is as > > > > [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group] > > > > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by tools so the RFC > > > > Editor cannot miss it. > > > > > > > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be plain text as in > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for .... > > > > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted by eye and so mi= ght > > > > be missed. Hence I suggest using > > > > > > > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for > > > > Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs"; > > > > > > > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace YYYY with the = RFC > > > > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group > > > > > > > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing: PCEP Extensions for Segment > > > > and so on for the others (of which there are several) > > > > > > > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon to appear o= nce > > > > at the start of the I-D. > > > > > > > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for multiple I-Ds was > > > > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RFC Editor Note for > > > > each, and not to use the I-D name. > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > Tom Petch > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > > > > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" > > > > Cc: ; ; > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of > > > > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mahesh, > > > > > > > > Apologies for a late reply to your review. Being stuck in a long fl= ight > > > > finally gave me enough time to fix up the indentation in the model = :) > > > > > > > > An update (-10) has been posted. > > > > > > > > More details inline... > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani > > > > > Review result: On the Right Track > > > > > > > > > > Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > > > > > I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking at the draft f= rom a > > > > YANG > > > > > perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the = Right Track=E2=80=9D > > > > > because > > > > > of some of the points discussed below. > > > > > > > > > > Summary: > > > > > > > > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Pat= h > > > > > Computation > > > > > Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between= a > > > > Path > > > > > Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or > > > > between > > > > > two > > > > > PCEs. The data model includes configuration data and state data > > > > (status > > > > > information and counters for the collection of statistics). > > > > > > > > > > Comments: > > > > > > > > > > General > > > > > > > > > > - The module uses indentation that varies all over the module, fr= om 2 > > > > > spaces to > > > > > 5. Please fix the module to have consistent indentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used 2 spaces now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The module makes heavy use of groupings. They are great if they= are > > > > being > > > > > used in multiple places. But I seem to see single usage of groupi= ngs, > > > > which > > > > > makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all groupings that = are > > > > used > > > > > only > > > > > once into the module. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All groupings that were used only once are now removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abstract: > > > > > > > > > > It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially if they have > > > > already > > > > > been > > > > > defined already in another RFC. Case in point, "state data". This= term > > > > has > > > > > been > > > > > defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list it in the Termin= ology > > > > and > > > > > Notation section, as has been done with other definitions. > > > > > > > > > > The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]: > > > > > > > > > > o configuration data > > > > > > > > > > o state data > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction: > > > > > > > > > > Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These are YANG 1.1 mo= dules > > > > > after > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged version of the= tree > > > > > diagram. > > > > > What would really help to understand the design of the model woul= d be > > > > to > > > > > place > > > > > the full tree diagram at the end of the section, and move section= s 5.3 > > > > to > > > > > 5.7. > > > > > directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the full diagram t= o get > > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > design sections is painful to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules > > > > > > > > > > - Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced in the model, = so > > > > there > > > > > is a > > > > > normative reference to them in the draft. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Please expand the reference to different RFCs to include the ti= tle > > > > of the > > > > > RFC, and not just the number. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The reference to tls-server and tls-client should be to > > > > > I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not an RFC as yet. A= lso, > > > > the > > > > > document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. What is the RFC ed= itor > > > > > supposed > > > > > to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned to this draft?= ? I > > > > think > > > > > you > > > > > want to refer to I-D that contain those modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is "PCEP common"? That term has not been defined anywhere = in > > > > the > > > > > document, but is used in the YANG model. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is the 'identify pcep' for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolean? Since YANG n= odes > > > > are > > > > > hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat prefixes like > > > > > 'admin-status' > > > > > in node names such as 'admin-status-up', both where it is defined= and > > > > > where it > > > > > is used (under admin-status). > > > > > > > > > > > > > Changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Where are the different operational status definitions defined?= Can > > > > that > > > > > RFC > > > > > be referenced? Same for Session state, Association Type, Objectiv= e > > > > > Function. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > References added. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Could the YANG module use existing definitions? For example cou= ld > > > > the > > > > > module > > > > > use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or use isis-area > > > > defined in > > > > > the > > > > > ISIS YANG Module. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can the document use more descriptive names for features such a= s > > > > 'gco'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does it need to be a > > > > uint32? > > > > > Same > > > > > for the range of 0..255. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corrected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-alive-timer' or > > > > > 'max-dead-timer'. If > > > > > they are max value, can they not be expressed as part of the rang= e for > > > > > 'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'? Same for 'min-keep-alive-time= r' > > > > and > > > > > 'min-dead-timer'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right that these are not explicitly stated in 5440, but are > > > > needed > > > > to set what is the acceptable range of these values as received in = the > > > > open > > > > message from a peer. These are different from the max value as part= of > > > > the > > > > range allowed by the protocol. You would also find these in our PCE= P MIB > > > > RFCs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is the default value for 'admin-status'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > set now to enabled (true). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a header with each = of > > > > the > > > > > leafs > > > > > as bits in the header. In that case, it would be better if this w= as > > > > > defined as > > > > > a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of type uint8 and > > > > boolean. > > > > > Same > > > > > for the grouping called 'capability' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > But the priority fields are kept outside of bits/bit. > > > > Also in case of capability, fields that are not part of RFC5088/RFC= 5089 > > > > capability bit fields are kept outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or not" is hardly a > > > > description > > > > > for the > > > > > leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a description of the feature > > > > > 'pce-initiated'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Could description "Valid at PCC" be improved upon? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. Why is key-string defin= ed as > > > > > 'type > > > > > string' or 'type hex-string', and not 'type binary'? Is it possib= le to > > > > > reuse > > > > > definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated according to the Key chain RFC that allows both ASCII and H= ex > > > > (instead of binary), i think this is better aligned to other relate= d > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot of the nodes def= ined > > > > are > > > > > generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as rw. For example= , the > > > > list > > > > > 'path-keys' carries a description "The list of path-keys generate= d by > > > > the > > > > > PCE". > > > > > If so, should this not be marked 'config false'. I would suggest > > > > authors > > > > > take a > > > > > more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed rw and which on= es > > > > are ro. > > > > > Other examples include 'req-id' and 'retrieved'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The examples you cited are already 'ro'. I did a check throughout t= he > > > > document as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can this error-message and description be reconciled? > > > > > > > > > > error-message > > > > > "The Path-key should be retreived"; > > > > > description > > > > > "When Path-Key has been retreived"; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - It is great to see that extensive amount of statistics are requ= ired > > > > to be > > > > > implemented by the model. How many implementations actually suppo= rt > > > > all > > > > > these > > > > > statistics? What would happen if implementations support a small > > > > number of > > > > > these statistics? In other words, are all these statistics requir= ed to > > > > be > > > > > maintained/implemented? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have kept most of these as optional and not mandated it, these a= re > > > > also > > > > aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In addition, a lot of the statistics have when statements. Sinc= e > > > > these > > > > > are > > > > > statistics maintained by the system, why the when statement? Does= it > > > > mean > > > > > that > > > > > even if the statistics are written by the system, they are not va= lid > > > > (for > > > > > reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more likely that they = are > > > > only > > > > > written when the role is ether of a 'pce' or 'pcc-and-pce', in wh= ich > > > > case > > > > > reading for other roles would return 0 values. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the latter case, where some statistics are written based on t= he > > > > role. > > > > Do you think this usage of 'when' is incorrect and needs changing? > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your detailed review. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Pce mailing list > > > > > Pce@ietf.org > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yang-doctors mailing list > > > > yang-doctors@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors > > From nobody Tue Mar 26 08:50:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D3C12047C; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2qHHmA5-AMgu; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E024B12048C; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id e13so11204403ioq.6; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:50:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SfyTTCxDiiMixb/8mBVnyK8yWgpQCkzkpiSBXuc0X4c=; b=W9V5HwmSfhHKcCoFx4l7BliUdhXPZA4WRMWxXcIjDm9DBuGSL+8JAoynHeRLrA8zIE PTcMecPWlhm9ApjMWzGprhyTC3Rm06ahM/YAgXAiefShQyrQM6Swz7dwkEfSND/54/bk xJFebR5dlh5YQcygphJNKykZGHB3LWErhFkXOUPO9U3PXtAz74y0i8y2S/n5amUwqiKj HrhyXrn0T/3Ls0t1fOh+qwKCZwwXshGNEraS0yV+BHtkM3GjQMtKuK3qrhpYXCmmTyBo v0y3OFvXXZF28713lIhRgIq29m/jZx8aFHk31CouPlc6Yve3zZOy7b1a5/97WMqbEoa/ VY1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SfyTTCxDiiMixb/8mBVnyK8yWgpQCkzkpiSBXuc0X4c=; b=VE831o+GLvKfe2UwALL8CaahYDlk0/Wpc0vO0InaN9AsQZst3IYF0XhDtiTd2j1dwg TumQ4MyvjtN5fZAIDGdgWzempC19Yi0tVN30Vo8U4phQJbde2uEK0a2hxJDy2R18R0sg r7JRN0mxykdPZSxBwO+oIm63X1BewMyvJ16kwRwqvU6df423OaOtHO8zQ9xnS9ewO7lP RldC2ZrM1zZlJVD9zDfGFEppXLZ/xVie883Glv3TfHe11BdfdrJvUJMm+RF1o8FO32CJ p79xuHB4ymbyqz6i2RQWX+fvcy5Zs13/GNH7DwJA6l6+k5+vuMazBOt5hfVnxYMuNEJx nMhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXOp0WNzWM/PSJl7fKN1HHqDpXfZrZs4+E0AdFaQKigABlGjLQh SGhaBI9eUoWj5CEu+aGI1D41N4jpZUMsooNWMqc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzYh6k7opQ5pJq9tBmrAXOft8EWr6IjQunKyh1mdg1HIirxwrQsVJbVm/uoxT3sMeem3ZWzlDhmLZ1rxm5DXWc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7804:: with SMTP id j4mr2141760iom.171.1553615434923; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:50:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <154328751678.23848.17617047655308813382@ietfa.amsl.com> <00d801d4e3d2$0408a620$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <00d801d4e3d2$0408a620$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:49:58 +0100 Message-ID: To: tom petch Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , "draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang.all@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:50:40 -0000 Hi Tom, I just had a chat with RFC Editor and they say that they are happy with the draft names in the references instead of RFC YYYY/ RFC ZZZZ for other documents being referenced. Thanks again for your reviews, I will fix the others and plan to make an update today. Regards, Dhruv On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:49 PM tom petch wrote: > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested in the opinion of a > YANG > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and say that a longer prefix gives > you line length problems. YANG does allow statements to span lines, as > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that is not a very good > reason; I would prefer something of two characters or more. > > I note that IANA Considerations says > Prefix: pcep > which would be my first choice even if I then have to span lines. > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use the prefix that it > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not recommended practice > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server tlss. > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with > Name: ietf-pcep > What about > module ietf-pcep-stats { > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate section, in Security > and must be covered in IANA Considerations. > > The problem with > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for ... > as a reference is that when it appears in the text of the I-D, then it > is as > [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group] > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by tools so the RFC > Editor cannot miss it. > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be plain text as in > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for .... > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted by eye and so might > be missed. Hence I suggest using > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for > Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs"; > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace YYYY with the RFC > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for > "I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing: PCEP Extensions for Segment > and so on for the others (of which there are several) > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon to appear once > at the start of the I-D. > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for multiple I-Ds was > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RFC Editor Note for > each, and not to use the I-D name. > > HTH > > Tom Petch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" > Cc: ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > Hi Mahesh, > > Apologies for a late reply to your review. Being stuck in a long flight > finally gave me enough time to fix up the indentation in the model :) > > An update (-10) has been posted. > > More details inline... > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani > > wrote: > > > Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani > > Review result: On the Right Track > > > > Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking at the draft from a > YANG > > perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the Right = Track=E2=80=9D > > because > > of some of the points discussed below. > > > > Summary: > > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path > > Computation > > Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between a > Path > > Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or > between > > two > > PCEs. The data model includes configuration data and state data > (status > > information and counters for the collection of statistics). > > > > Comments: > > > > General > > > > - The module uses indentation that varies all over the module, from 2 > > spaces to > > 5. Please fix the module to have consistent indentation. > > > > Used 2 spaces now. > > > > > - The module makes heavy use of groupings. They are great if they are > being > > used in multiple places. But I seem to see single usage of groupings, > which > > makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all groupings that are > used > > only > > once into the module. > > > > > All groupings that were used only once are now removed. > > > > > Abstract: > > > > It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially if they have > already > > been > > defined already in another RFC. Case in point, "state data". This term > has > > been > > defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list it in the Terminology > and > > Notation section, as has been done with other definitions. > > > > The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]: > > > > o configuration data > > > > o state data > > > > Done. > > > > > > > Introduction: > > > > Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These are YANG 1.1 modules > > after > > all. > > > > Done. > > > > > > > Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model. > > > > Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged version of the tree > > diagram. > > What would really help to understand the design of the model would be > to > > place > > the full tree diagram at the end of the section, and move sections 5.3 > to > > 5.7. > > directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the full diagram to get > to > > the > > design sections is painful to read. > > > > Done. > > > > > > > Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules > > > > - Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced in the model, so > there > > is a > > normative reference to them in the draft. > > > > Done. > > > > > > > - Please expand the reference to different RFCs to include the title > of the > > RFC, and not just the number. > > > > Done. > > > > > > > - The reference to tls-server and tls-client should be to > > I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not an RFC as yet. Also, > the > > document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. What is the RFC editor > > supposed > > to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned to this draft?? I > think > > you > > want to refer to I-D that contain those modules. > > > > Done. > > > > > > > - What is "PCEP common"? That term has not been defined anywhere in > the > > document, but is used in the YANG model. > > > > > Removed. > > > > > - What is the 'identify pcep' for? > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > - Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolean? Since YANG nodes > are > > hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat prefixes like > > 'admin-status' > > in node names such as 'admin-status-up', both where it is defined and > > where it > > is used (under admin-status). > > > > Changed. > > > > > > > - Where are the different operational status definitions defined? Can > that > > RFC > > be referenced? Same for Session state, Association Type, Objective > > Function. > > > > > References added. > > > > > - Could the YANG module use existing definitions? For example could > the > > module > > use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or use isis-area > defined in > > the > > ISIS YANG Module. > > > > > Updated. > > > > > - Can the document use more descriptive names for features such as > 'gco'. > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > - If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does it need to be a > uint32? > > Same > > for the range of 0..255. > > > > Corrected. > > > > > > > - RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-alive-timer' or > > 'max-dead-timer'. If > > they are max value, can they not be expressed as part of the range for > > 'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'? Same for 'min-keep-alive-timer' > and > > 'min-dead-timer'. > > > > > You are right that these are not explicitly stated in 5440, but are > needed > to set what is the acceptable range of these values as received in the > open > message from a peer. These are different from the max value as part of > the > range allowed by the protocol. You would also find these in our PCEP MIB > RFCs. > > > > > - What is the default value for 'admin-status'? > > > > set now to enabled (true). > > > > > > > - The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a header with each of > the > > leafs > > as bits in the header. In that case, it would be better if this was > > defined as > > a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of type uint8 and > boolean. > > Same > > for the grouping called 'capability' > > > > > Updated. > But the priority fields are kept outside of bits/bit. > Also in case of capability, fields that are not part of RFC5088/RFC5089 > capability bit fields are kept outside. > > > > > - The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or not" is hardly a > description > > for the > > leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a description of the feature > > 'pce-initiated'. > > > > > Updated. > > > > > - Could description "Valid at PCC" be improved upon? > > > > > Updated. > > > > > - Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. Why is key-string defined as > > 'type > > string' or 'type hex-string', and not 'type binary'? Is it possible to > > reuse > > definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types? > > > > > Updated according to the Key chain RFC that allows both ASCII and Hex > (instead of binary), i think this is better aligned to other related > work. > > > > - I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot of the nodes defined > are > > generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as rw. For example, the > list > > 'path-keys' carries a description "The list of path-keys generated by > the > > PCE". > > If so, should this not be marked 'config false'. I would suggest > authors > > take a > > more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed rw and which ones > are ro. > > Other examples include 'req-id' and 'retrieved'. > > > > > The examples you cited are already 'ro'. I did a check throughout the > document as well. > > > > > - Can this error-message and description be reconciled? > > > > error-message > > "The Path-key should be retreived"; > > description > > "When Path-Key has been retreived"; > > > > > Updated. > > > > > - It is great to see that extensive amount of statistics are required > to be > > implemented by the model. How many implementations actually support > all > > these > > statistics? What would happen if implementations support a small > number of > > these statistics? In other words, are all these statistics required to > be > > maintained/implemented? > > > > > We have kept most of these as optional and not mandated it, these are > also > aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC. > > > > - In addition, a lot of the statistics have when statements. Since > these > > are > > statistics maintained by the system, why the when statement? Does it > mean > > that > > even if the statistics are written by the system, they are not valid > (for > > reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more likely that they are > only > > written when the role is ether of a 'pce' or 'pcc-and-pce', in which > case > > reading for other roles would return 0 values. > > > > > It is the latter case, where some statistics are written based on the > role. > Do you think this usage of 'when' is incorrect and needs changing? > > Thanks again for your detailed review. > > Regards, > Dhruv > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pce mailing list > > Pce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > From nobody Tue Mar 26 09:39:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF111203EB; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:39:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <155361837338.7265.11855938751480470774@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:39:33 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-11.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:39:34 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) Authors : Dhruv Dhody Jonathan Hardwick Vishnu Pavan Beeram Jeff Tantsura Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-11.txt Pages : 113 Date : 2019-03-26 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs. The data model includes configuration and state data. 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<00d801d4e3d2$0408a620$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> <20190326.141608.1265169009050218055.mbj@tail-f.com> <20190326.150053.1710533731743618728.mbj@tail-f.com> <00ae01d4e3f9$c54e6c80$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <00ae01d4e3f9$c54e6c80$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 18:35:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: tom petch Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , Martin Bjorklund , "draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang.all@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008e1e76058502be0a" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:35:25 -0000 --0000000000008e1e76058502be0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Done and a new version is posted. On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 18:34, tom petch wrote: > Dhruv > > I commented up thread that the prefixes used in this I-D were not the > ones that appear in the imported modules and said I thought that that > was discouraged but ok. Checking RFC8407, it says > > o The proper module prefix MUST be used for all identifiers imported > from other modules. > > It is a MUST not a SHOULD so I believe that you must bring those > prefixes in line for key-chain, tls-client, tls-server. YANG allows it, > YANG guidelines does not. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:38 PM > > Hi Martin, > > The newer version of pyang worked! Thanks for your help! > > I found the full tree useful when I am searching for a leaf in the > yang models and understand how it fits in the overall tree. Thus I see > value in both. We can also consider if we should also update 5.2-5.6 > additionally. > > Thanks! > Dhruv > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Dhruv Dhody wrote: > > > Hi Mahesh, Tom, > > > > > > Got it, will make the necessary change soon. > > > > > > Where I need help is the tree creation, even though I use > > > '--tree-line-length' I faced the issue with overrunning the 80 > > > characters. > > > > > > pyang --ietf -f tree --tree-line-length=3D68 --tree-depth=3D10 > > > ietf-pcep@2019-03-24.yang --ietf >ietf-pcep.tree > > > > Have you tried using pyang 1.7.8? When I run that the tree seems to > > fit the line lengths. > > > > > That made me pick a shorter prefix, but happy to learn if there is a > > > better way out there! > > > > Personally, I'm not too fond of very large tree diagrams. I prefer to > > split them into smaller diagrams. So I like your overview diagram in > > section 5.1. I would then probably add a small diagram in each of the > > section 5.2-5.6, and remove secion 5.7 completely. But this is just > > my personal preference! > > > > /martin > > > > > Thanks! > > > Dhruv > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:16 PM Martin Bjorklund > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > tom petch wrote: > > > > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested in the opinion > of a > > > > > YANG > > > > > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and say that a longer > prefix gives > > > > > you line length problems. YANG does allow statements to span > lines, as > > > > > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that is not a very > good > > > > > reason; I would prefer something of two characters or more. > > > > > > > > > > I note that IANA Considerations says > > > > > Prefix: pcep > > > > > which would be my first choice even if I then have to span > lines. > > > > > > > > I strongly agree. Since the prefix is actually part of the IANA > > > > registry and needs to be unique, I think you should use a longer > > > > prefix. "pcep" seems reasonable. If you run into line length > > > > problems, I'll be glad to help you fix them. > > > > > > > > Before this document goes to the RFC editor, I suggest you run the > > > > tool: > > > > > > > > pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69 > > > > > > > > on these modules, in order to get them formatted consistently with > the > > > > rest of the IETF modules. > > > > > > > > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use the prefix > that it > > > > > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not recommended > practice > > > > > > > > > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server tlss. > > > > > > > > > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with > > > > > Name: ietf-pcep > > > > > What about > > > > > module ietf-pcep-stats { > > > > > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate section, in > Security > > > > > and must be covered in IANA Considerations. > > > > > > > > > > The problem with > > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for ... > > > > > as a reference is that when it appears in the text of the I-D, > then it > > > > > is as > > > > > [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group] > > > > > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by tools so the > RFC > > > > > Editor cannot miss it. > > > > > > > > > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be plain text as in > > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for .... > > > > > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted by eye and so > might > > > > > be missed. Hence I suggest using > > > > > > > > > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for > > > > > Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs"; > > > > > > > > > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace YYYY with > the RFC > > > > > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group > > > > > > > > > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for > > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing: PCEP Extensions for > Segment > > > > > and so on for the others (of which there are several) > > > > > > > > > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon to > appear once > > > > > at the start of the I-D. > > > > > > > > > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for multiple I-Ds was > > > > > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RFC Editor Note > for > > > > > each, and not to use the I-D name. > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > Tom Petch > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > > > > > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" > > > > > Cc: ; > ; > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of > > > > > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mahesh, > > > > > > > > > > Apologies for a late reply to your review. Being stuck in a long > flight > > > > > finally gave me enough time to fix up the indentation in the > model :) > > > > > > > > > > An update (-10) has been posted. > > > > > > > > > > More details inline... > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani > > > > > > Review result: On the Right Track > > > > > > > > > > > > Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking at the > draft from a > > > > > YANG > > > > > > perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn th= e Right > Track=E2=80=9D > > > > > > because > > > > > > of some of the points discussed below. > > > > > > > > > > > > Summary: > > > > > > > > > > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of > Path > > > > > > Computation > > > > > > Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications > between a > > > > > Path > > > > > > Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), > or > > > > > between > > > > > > two > > > > > > PCEs. The data model includes configuration data and state > data > > > > > (status > > > > > > information and counters for the collection of statistics). > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments: > > > > > > > > > > > > General > > > > > > > > > > > > - The module uses indentation that varies all over the module, > from 2 > > > > > > spaces to > > > > > > 5. Please fix the module to have consistent indentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used 2 spaces now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The module makes heavy use of groupings. They are great if > they are > > > > > being > > > > > > used in multiple places. But I seem to see single usage of > groupings, > > > > > which > > > > > > makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all groupings > that are > > > > > used > > > > > > only > > > > > > once into the module. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All groupings that were used only once are now removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abstract: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially if they > have > > > > > already > > > > > > been > > > > > > defined already in another RFC. Case in point, "state data". > This term > > > > > has > > > > > > been > > > > > > defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list it in the > Terminology > > > > > and > > > > > > Notation section, as has been done with other definitions. > > > > > > > > > > > > The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]: > > > > > > > > > > > > o configuration data > > > > > > > > > > > > o state data > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction: > > > > > > > > > > > > Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These are YANG 1.1 > modules > > > > > > after > > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged version of > the tree > > > > > > diagram. > > > > > > What would really help to understand the design of the model > would be > > > > > to > > > > > > place > > > > > > the full tree diagram at the end of the section, and move > sections 5.3 > > > > > to > > > > > > 5.7. > > > > > > directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the full > diagram to get > > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > design sections is painful to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules > > > > > > > > > > > > - Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced in the > model, so > > > > > there > > > > > > is a > > > > > > normative reference to them in the draft. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Please expand the reference to different RFCs to include the > title > > > > > of the > > > > > > RFC, and not just the number. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The reference to tls-server and tls-client should be to > > > > > > I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not an RFC as > yet. Also, > > > > > the > > > > > > document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. What is the RFC > editor > > > > > > supposed > > > > > > to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned to this > draft?? I > > > > > think > > > > > > you > > > > > > want to refer to I-D that contain those modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is "PCEP common"? That term has not been defined > anywhere in > > > > > the > > > > > > document, but is used in the YANG model. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is the 'identify pcep' for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolean? Since > YANG nodes > > > > > are > > > > > > hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat prefixes > like > > > > > > 'admin-status' > > > > > > in node names such as 'admin-status-up', both where it is > defined and > > > > > > where it > > > > > > is used (under admin-status). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Where are the different operational status definitions > defined? Can > > > > > that > > > > > > RFC > > > > > > be referenced? Same for Session state, Association Type, > Objective > > > > > > Function. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > References added. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Could the YANG module use existing definitions? For example > could > > > > > the > > > > > > module > > > > > > use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or use > isis-area > > > > > defined in > > > > > > the > > > > > > ISIS YANG Module. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can the document use more descriptive names for features > such as > > > > > 'gco'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does it need to > be a > > > > > uint32? > > > > > > Same > > > > > > for the range of 0..255. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corrected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-alive-timer' or > > > > > > 'max-dead-timer'. If > > > > > > they are max value, can they not be expressed as part of the > range for > > > > > > 'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'? Same for > 'min-keep-alive-timer' > > > > > and > > > > > > 'min-dead-timer'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right that these are not explicitly stated in 5440, but > are > > > > > needed > > > > > to set what is the acceptable range of these values as received > in the > > > > > open > > > > > message from a peer. These are different from the max value as > part of > > > > > the > > > > > range allowed by the protocol. You would also find these in our > PCEP MIB > > > > > RFCs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - What is the default value for 'admin-status'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set now to enabled (true). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a header with > each of > > > > > the > > > > > > leafs > > > > > > as bits in the header. In that case, it would be better if > this was > > > > > > defined as > > > > > > a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of type uint8 and > > > > > boolean. > > > > > > Same > > > > > > for the grouping called 'capability' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > But the priority fields are kept outside of bits/bit. > > > > > Also in case of capability, fields that are not part of > RFC5088/RFC5089 > > > > > capability bit fields are kept outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or not" is hardly a > > > > > description > > > > > > for the > > > > > > leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a description of the feature > > > > > > 'pce-initiated'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Could description "Valid at PCC" be improved upon? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. Why is key-string > defined as > > > > > > 'type > > > > > > string' or 'type hex-string', and not 'type binary'? Is it > possible to > > > > > > reuse > > > > > > definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated according to the Key chain RFC that allows both ASCII > and Hex > > > > > (instead of binary), i think this is better aligned to other > related > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot of the nodes > defined > > > > > are > > > > > > generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as rw. For > example, the > > > > > list > > > > > > 'path-keys' carries a description "The list of path-keys > generated by > > > > > the > > > > > > PCE". > > > > > > If so, should this not be marked 'config false'. I would > suggest > > > > > authors > > > > > > take a > > > > > > more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed rw and which > ones > > > > > are ro. > > > > > > Other examples include 'req-id' and 'retrieved'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The examples you cited are already 'ro'. I did a check > throughout the > > > > > document as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can this error-message and description be reconciled? > > > > > > > > > > > > error-message > > > > > > "The Path-key should be retreived"; > > > > > > description > > > > > > "When Path-Key has been retreived"; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - It is great to see that extensive amount of statistics are > required > > > > > to be > > > > > > implemented by the model. How many implementations actually > support > > > > > all > > > > > > these > > > > > > statistics? What would happen if implementations support a > small > > > > > number of > > > > > > these statistics? In other words, are all these statistics > required to > > > > > be > > > > > > maintained/implemented? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have kept most of these as optional and not mandated it, > these are > > > > > also > > > > > aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In addition, a lot of the statistics have when statements. > Since > > > > > these > > > > > > are > > > > > > statistics maintained by the system, why the when statement? > Does it > > > > > mean > > > > > > that > > > > > > even if the statistics are written by the system, they are not > valid > > > > > (for > > > > > > reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more likely that > they are > > > > > only > > > > > > written when the role is ether of a 'pce' or 'pcc-and-pce', in > which > > > > > case > > > > > > reading for other roles would return 0 values. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the latter case, where some statistics are written based > on the > > > > > role. > > > > > Do you think this usage of 'when' is incorrect and needs > changing? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your detailed review. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Pce mailing list > > > > > > Pce@ietf.org > > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > yang-doctors mailing list > > > > > yang-doctors@ietf.org > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors > > > > > --0000000000008e1e76058502be0a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Done and a new version is posted.=C2=A0
<= div>
On= Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 18:34, tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
Dhruv

I commented up thread that the prefixes used in this I-D were not the
ones that appear in the imported modules and said I thought that that
was discouraged but ok. Checking RFC8407, it says

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 The proper module prefix MUST be used for all identifi= ers imported
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 from other modules.

It is a MUST not a SHOULD so I believe that you must bring those
prefixes in line for key-chain, tls-client, tls-server.=C2=A0 YANG allows i= t,
YANG guidelines does not.

Tom Petch


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dhruv Dhody" <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:38 PM

Hi Martin,

The newer version of pyang worked! Thanks for your help!

I found the full tree useful when I am searching for a leaf in the
yang models and understand how it fits in the overall tree. Thus I see
value in both. We can also consider if we should also update 5.2-5.6
additionally.

Thanks!
Dhruv

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mahesh, Tom,
> >
> > Got it, will make the necessary change soon.
> >
> > Where I need help is the tree creation, even though I use
> > '--tree-line-length' I faced the issue with overrunning t= he 80
> > characters.
> >
> > pyang --ietf -f tree --tree-line-length=3D68 --tree-depth=3D10 > > ietf-pcep@2019-03-24.yang --ietf >ietf-pcep.tree
>
> Have you tried using pyang 1.7.8?=C2=A0 When I run that the tree seems= to
> fit the line lengths.
>
> > That made me pick a shorter prefix, but happy to learn if there i= s a
> > better way out there!
>
> Personally, I'm not too fond of very large tree diagrams.=C2=A0 I = prefer to
> split them into smaller diagrams.=C2=A0 So I like your overview diagra= m in
> section 5.1.=C2=A0 I would then probably add a small diagram in each o= f the
> section 5.2-5.6, and remove secion 5.7 completely.=C2=A0 But this is j= ust
> my personal preference!
>
> /martin
>
> > Thanks!
> > Dhruv
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:16 PM Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
> > > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested in the= opinion
of a
> > > > YANG
> > > > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and say t= hat a longer
prefix gives
> > > > you line length problems.=C2=A0 YANG does allow stateme= nts to span
lines, as
> > > > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that is n= ot a very
good
> > > > reason; I would prefer something of two characters or m= ore.
> > > >
> > > > I note that IANA Considerations says
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Prefix:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0pcep
> > > > which would be my first choice even if I then have to s= pan
lines.
> > >
> > > I strongly agree.=C2=A0 Since the prefix is actually part of= the IANA
> > > registry and needs to be unique, I think you should use a lo= nger
> > > prefix.=C2=A0 "pcep" seems reasonable.=C2=A0 If yo= u run into line length
> > > problems, I'll be glad to help you fix them.
> > >
> > > Before this document goes to the RFC editor, I suggest you r= un the
> > > tool:
> > >
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-lengt= h 69 <FILE>
> > >
> > > on these modules, in order to get them formatted consistentl= y with
the
> > > rest of the IETF modules.
> > >
> > > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use the = prefix
that it
> > > > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not recomm= ended
practice
> > > >
> > > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server tlss.=
> > > >
> > > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0ietf-pcep
> > > > What about
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 module ietf-pcep-stats {
> > > > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate secti= on, in
Security
> > > > and must be covered in IANA Considerations.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with
> > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions f= or ...
> > > > as a reference is that when it appears in the text of t= he I-D,
then it
> > > > is as
> > > >=C2=A0 [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group]
> > > > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by tools= so the
RFC
> > > > Editor cannot miss it.
> > > >
> > > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be plain te= xt as in
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "I-D.ietf-pce-associati= on-group: PCEP Extensions for ....
> > > > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted by e= ye and so
might
> > > > be missed.=C2=A0 Hence I suggest using
> > > >
> > > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Establishing Relationships B= etween Sets of LSPs";
> > > >
> > > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace YY= YY with
the RFC
> > > > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group
> > > >
> > > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "I-D.ietf-pce-segment-r= outing: PCEP Extensions for
Segment
> > > > and so on for the others (of which there are several) > > > >
> > > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon= to
appear once
> > > > at the start of the I-D.
> > > >
> > > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for multiple= I-Ds was
> > > > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RFC Edi= tor Note
for
> > > > each, and not to use the I-D name.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > > Tom Petch
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" <mjethanandani@gmail.com&g= t;
> > > > Cc: <draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang.all@ietf.org>;<= br> <yang-doctors= @ietf.org>;
> > > > <p= ce@ietf.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of
> > > > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mahesh,
> > > >
> > > > Apologies for a late reply to your review. Being stuck = in a long
flight
> > > > finally gave me enough time to fix up the indentation i= n the
model :)
> > > >
> > > > An update (-10) has been posted.
> > > >
> > > > More details inline...
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:28 AM Mahesh Jethanandani
> > > > <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani
> > > > > Review result: On the Right Track
> > > > >
> > > > > Document reviewed: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not an expert in PCEP. This review is looking= at the
draft from a
> > > > YANG
> > > > > perspective. With that said, I have marked it as = =E2=80=9COn the Right
Track=E2=80=9D
> > > > > because
> > > > > of some of the points discussed below.
> > > > >
> > > > > Summary:
> > > > >
> > > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the ma= nagement of
Path
> > > > > Computation
> > > > > Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communi= cations
between a
> > > > Path
> > > > > Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation El= ement (PCE),
or
> > > > between
> > > > > two
> > > > > PCEs.=C2=A0 The data model includes configuration = data and state
data
> > > > (status
> > > > > information and counters for the collection of sta= tistics).
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > >
> > > > > General
> > > > >
> > > > > - The module uses indentation that varies all over= the module,
from 2
> > > > > spaces to
> > > > > 5. Please fix the module to have consistent indent= ation.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Used 2 spaces now.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - The module makes heavy use of groupings. They ar= e great if
they are
> > > > being
> > > > > used in multiple places. But I seem to see single = usage of
groupings,
> > > > which
> > > > > makes the model hard to read. Please collapse all = groupings
that are
> > > > used
> > > > > only
> > > > > once into the module.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > All groupings that were used only once are now removed.=
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Abstract:
> > > > >
> > > > > It is best not to try to redefine terms, specially= if they
have
> > > > already
> > > > > been
> > > > > defined already in another RFC. Case in point, &qu= ot;state data".
This term
> > > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > defined in RFC6241, and it would be best to list i= t in the
Terminology
> > > > and
> > > > > Notation section, as has been done with other defi= nitions.
> > > > >
> > > > > The following terms are defined in [RFC6241]:
> > > > >
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 configuration data
> > > > >
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 state data
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Introduction:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please update reference of YANG to RFC7950. These = are YANG 1.1
modules
> > > > > after
> > > > > all.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Section 5. The Design of the PCEP Data Model.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for first of all for creating a abridged= version of
the tree
> > > > > diagram.
> > > > > What would really help to understand the design of= the model
would be
> > > > to
> > > > > place
> > > > > the full tree diagram at the end of the section, a= nd move
sections 5.3
> > > > to
> > > > > 5.7.
> > > > > directly under 5.1. Scrolling through pages of the= full
diagram to get
> > > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > design sections is painful to read.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Section 10. PCEP YANG Modules
> > > > >
> > > > > - Please list all RFCs and I-D that are referenced= in the
model, so
> > > > there
> > > > > is a
> > > > > normative reference to them in the draft.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Please expand the reference to different RFCs to= include the
title
> > > > of the
> > > > > RFC, and not just the number.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - The reference to tls-server and tls-client shoul= d be to
> > > > > I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server, as it is not a= n RFC as
yet. Also,
> > > > the
> > > > > document refers to all other RFCs as RFC XXXX. Wha= t is the RFC
editor
> > > > > supposed
> > > > > to replace XXXX with? With the RFC number assigned= to this
draft?? I
> > > > think
> > > > > you
> > > > > want to refer to I-D that contain those modules. > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - What is "PCEP common"? That term has n= ot been defined
anywhere in
> > > > the
> > > > > document, but is used in the YANG model.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Removed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - What is the 'identify pcep' for?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Removed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Why is pcep-admin-status a enum and not a boolea= n? Since
YANG nodes
> > > > are
> > > > > hierarchical, there should be no reason to repeat = prefixes
like
> > > > > 'admin-status'
> > > > > in node names such as 'admin-status-up', b= oth where it is
defined and
> > > > > where it
> > > > > is used (under admin-status).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Changed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Where are the different operational status defin= itions
defined? Can
> > > > that
> > > > > RFC
> > > > > be referenced? Same for Session state, Association= Type,
Objective
> > > > > Function.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > References added.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Could the YANG module use existing definitions? = For example
could
> > > > the
> > > > > module
> > > > > use ospf-area as defined in I-D.ietf-ospf-yang or = use
isis-area
> > > > defined in
> > > > > the
> > > > > ISIS YANG Module.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Updated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Can the document use more descriptive names for = features
such as
> > > > 'gco'.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Updated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - If the range of the timer is 1..65535, why does = it need to
be a
> > > > uint32?
> > > > > Same
> > > > > for the range of 0..255.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Corrected.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - RFC 5440 makes no reference to 'max-keep-ali= ve-timer' or
> > > > > 'max-dead-timer'. If
> > > > > they are max value, can they not be expressed as p= art of the
range for
> > > > > 'keep-alive-timer' or 'dead-timer'= ? Same for
'min-keep-alive-timer'
> > > > and
> > > > > 'min-dead-timer'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > You are right that these are not explicitly stated in 5= 440, but
are
> > > > needed
> > > > to set what is the acceptable range of these values as = received
in the
> > > > open
> > > > message from a peer. These are different from the max v= alue as
part of
> > > > the
> > > > range allowed by the protocol. You would also find thes= e in our
PCEP MIB
> > > > RFCs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - What is the default value for 'admin-status&= #39;?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > set now to enabled (true).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - The grouping pce-scope seems to be defining a he= ader with
each of
> > > > the
> > > > > leafs
> > > > > as bits in the header. In that case, it would be b= etter if
this was
> > > > > defined as
> > > > > a bits/bit field, rather than leafs that are of ty= pe uint8 and
> > > > boolean.
> > > > > Same
> > > > > for the grouping called 'capability'
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Updated.
> > > > But the priority fields are kept outside of bits/bit. > > > > Also in case of capability, fields that are not part of=
RFC5088/RFC5089
> > > > capability bit fields are kept outside.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - The description "LSP is PCE-initiated or no= t" is hardly a
> > > > description
> > > > > for the
> > > > > leaf 'enabled'. It might be more a descrip= tion of the feature
> > > > > 'pce-initiated'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Updated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Could description "Valid at PCC" be im= proved upon?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Updated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Most keys are defined as 'type binary'. = Why is key-string
defined as
> > > > > 'type
> > > > > string' or 'type hex-string', and not = 'type binary'? Is it
possible to
> > > > > reuse
> > > > > definitions from draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types?<= br> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Updated according to the Key chain RFC that allows both= ASCII
and Hex
> > > > (instead of binary), i think this is better aligned to = other
related
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - I am not an expert in this protocol, but a lot o= f the nodes
defined
> > > > are
> > > > > generated by the system. Yet, they are defined as = rw. For
example, the
> > > > list
> > > > > 'path-keys' carries a description "Th= e list of path-keys
generated by
> > > > the
> > > > > PCE".
> > > > > If so, should this not be marked 'config false= '. I would
suggest
> > > > authors
> > > > > take a
> > > > > more concerted look and see what nodes are indeed = rw and which
ones
> > > > are ro.
> > > > > Other examples include 'req-id' and 'r= etrieved'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > The examples you cited are already 'ro'. I did = a check
throughout the
> > > > document as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - Can this error-message and description be reconc= iled?
> > > > >
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0error-message
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"The Path-key should be retre= ived";
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0description
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"When Path-Key has been retre= ived";
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Updated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - It is great to see that extensive amount of stat= istics are
required
> > > > to be
> > > > > implemented by the model. How many implementations= actually
support
> > > > all
> > > > > these
> > > > > statistics? What would happen if implementations s= upport a
small
> > > > number of
> > > > > these statistics? In other words, are all these st= atistics
required to
> > > > be
> > > > > maintained/implemented?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > We have kept most of these as optional and not mandated= it,
these are
> > > > also
> > > > aligned to stats in PCEP MIB RFC.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > - In addition, a lot of the statistics have when s= tatements.
Since
> > > > these
> > > > > are
> > > > > statistics maintained by the system, why the when = statement?
Does it
> > > > mean
> > > > > that
> > > > > even if the statistics are written by the system, = they are not
valid
> > > > (for
> > > > > reading) under certain scenarios. Or is it more li= kely that
they are
> > > > only
> > > > > written when the role is ether of a 'pce' = or 'pcc-and-pce', in
which
> > > > case
> > > > > reading for other roles would return 0 values.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > It is the latter case, where some statistics are writte= n based
on the
> > > > role.
> > > > Do you think this usage of 'when' is incorrect = and needs
changing?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for your detailed review.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dhruv
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> > > > --------
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > = Pce@ietf.org
> > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listi= nfo/pce
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > yang-doctors@ietf.org
> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/l= istinfo/yang-doctors
> >

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just completed a second shepherd review of this document. For refer= ence, my first review can be found at the link below. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/kAw8SJX3uv5_gsW7Qa03Td0pBU4 I would like to pass a massive vote of thanks to the authors for reacting b= rilliantly to my previous review and turning this document around. It is n= ow at a much higher quality level and is much easier to read. I found a sm= all number of typos below - feel free to hold these until the next revision= . Well done. I will start the shepherd write-up. Best regards Jon S1.2 s/ When a path has required/ When a path is required/ S3.1 s/a single point failure/a single point of failure/ S6.1.1 s/ must be include or exclude/ must be included or excluded/ s/ ASes are public entity as well as their interconnection/ ASes and their = interconnections are public entities/ S7.1 s/ its TED is by participating/ its TED by participating/ --_000_BL0PR02MB486817CE64CFD85E71FD2E35845F0BL0PR02MB4868namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have just completed a second = shepherd review of this document.  For reference, my first review can = be found at the link below.

https://mailarchive.ietf= .org/arch/msg/pce/kAw8SJX3uv5_gsW7Qa03Td0pBU4

 

I would like to pass a massive = vote of thanks to the authors for reacting brilliantly to my previous revie= w and turning this document around.  It is now at a much higher qualit= y level and is much easier to read.  I found a small number of typos below – feel free to hold these until the ne= xt revision.

 

Well done.  I will start t= he shepherd write-up.

 

Best regards<= /p>

Jon

 

 

S1.2

s/ When a path has required/ Wh= en a path is required/

 

S3.1

s/a single point failure/a sing= le point of failure/

 

S6.1.1

s/ must be include or exclude/ = must be included or excluded/

s/ ASes are public entity as we= ll as their interconnection/ ASes and their interconnections are public ent= ities/

 

S7.1

s/ its TED is by participating/= its TED by participating/

 

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Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , Martin Bjorklund , "draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang.all@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c3dbf2058524a96c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 10:03:34 -0000 --000000000000c3dbf2058524a96c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Tom, Apologies, I misunderstood your comment on references. The [] would be removed. Who knew updating and compiling yang module while sitting in a WG session is not good :) Will make an update SOON fixing these! Thanks again for all your effort in keeping yang drafts in good condition! Regards, Dhruv On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 6:48 PM tom petch wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:35 PM > > Done and a new version is posted. > > > > The prefixes look good and the line lengths I think are ok - I make it > 81 characters including the left margin spaces - but ... > > in -10 you had > " import ietf-te-types { prefix "te-types"; reference > "I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-types: Traffic Engineering Common YANG > Types"; " > which looks ok > > in -11 you have > import ietf-te-types { prefix te-types; reference > "[I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-types]: Traffic Engineering Common YANG > Types"; > which does not look ok to me > > Recall that a YANG module is plain text so there cannot be any XML/HTML > style references/links and that > [I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-types]: > looks to me as if it has XML underpinning it which is not ok in a YANG > module > > And this has happened in 16 places. > > Also, IANA Considerations does not register > > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-pcep-stats > > Security Considerations talks of a YANG module when the I-D has two, > giving the flavour, as with the IANA Considerations, that the second > module, pcep-stats, has not really been considered. Since it is > statistics, I imagine that there are no sensitive objects there, in > which case I would add a sentence to spell that out. > > And something new > /Segement Routing /Segment Routing / > > Tom Petch > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 18:34, tom petch wrote: > > > Dhruv > > > > I commented up thread that the prefixes used in this I-D were not the > > ones that appear in the imported modules and said I thought that that > > was discouraged but ok. Checking RFC8407, it says > > > > o The proper module prefix MUST be used for all identifiers > imported > > from other modules. > > > > It is a MUST not a SHOULD so I believe that you must bring those > > prefixes in line for key-chain, tls-client, tls-server. YANG allows > it, > > YANG guidelines does not. > > > > Tom Petch > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:38 PM > > > > Hi Martin, > > > > The newer version of pyang worked! Thanks for your help! > > > > I found the full tree useful when I am searching for a leaf in the > > yang models and understand how it fits in the overall tree. Thus I see > > value in both. We can also consider if we should also update 5.2-5.6 > > additionally. > > > > Thanks! > > Dhruv > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Martin Bjorklund > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Dhruv Dhody wrote: > > > > Hi Mahesh, Tom, > > > > > > > > Got it, will make the necessary change soon. > > > > > > > > Where I need help is the tree creation, even though I use > > > > '--tree-line-length' I faced the issue with overrunning the 80 > > > > characters. > > > > > > > > pyang --ietf -f tree --tree-line-length=68 --tree-depth=10 > > > > ietf-pcep@2019-03-24.yang --ietf >ietf-pcep.tree > > > > > > Have you tried using pyang 1.7.8? When I run that the tree seems to > > > fit the line lengths. > > > > > > > That made me pick a shorter prefix, but happy to learn if there is > a > > > > better way out there! > > > > > > Personally, I'm not too fond of very large tree diagrams. I prefer > to > > > split them into smaller diagrams. So I like your overview diagram > in > > > section 5.1. I would then probably add a small diagram in each of > the > > > section 5.2-5.6, and remove secion 5.7 completely. But this is just > > > my personal preference! > > > > > > /martin > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Dhruv > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:16 PM Martin Bjorklund > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > tom petch wrote: > > > > > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested in the > opinion > > of a > > > > > > YANG > > > > > > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and say that a longer > > prefix gives > > > > > > you line length problems. YANG does allow statements to span > > lines, as > > > > > > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that is not a > very > > good > > > > > > reason; I would prefer something of two characters or more. > > > > > > > > > > > > I note that IANA Considerations says > > > > > > Prefix: pcep > > > > > > which would be my first choice even if I then have to span > > lines. > > > > > > > > > > I strongly agree. Since the prefix is actually part of the IANA > > > > > registry and needs to be unique, I think you should use a longer > > > > > prefix. "pcep" seems reasonable. If you run into line length > > > > > problems, I'll be glad to help you fix them. > > > > > > > > > > Before this document goes to the RFC editor, I suggest you run > the > > > > > tool: > > > > > > > > > > pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69 > > > > > > > > > > on these modules, in order to get them formatted consistently > with > > the > > > > > rest of the IETF modules. > > > > > > > > > > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use the prefix > > that it > > > > > > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not recommended > > practice > > > > > > > > > > > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server tlss. > > > > > > > > > > > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with > > > > > > Name: ietf-pcep > > > > > > What about > > > > > > module ietf-pcep-stats { > > > > > > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate section, in > > Security > > > > > > and must be covered in IANA Considerations. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with > > > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for ... > > > > > > as a reference is that when it appears in the text of the I-D, > > then it > > > > > > is as > > > > > > [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group] > > > > > > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by tools so the > > RFC > > > > > > Editor cannot miss it. > > > > > > > > > > > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be plain text as > in > > > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensions for > .... > > > > > > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted by eye and > so > > might > > > > > > be missed. Hence I suggest using > > > > > > > > > > > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for > > > > > > Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs"; > > > > > > > > > > > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace YYYY with > > the RFC > > > > > > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group > > > > > > > > > > > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for > > > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing: PCEP Extensions for > > Segment > > > > > > and so on for the others (of which there are several) > > > > > > > > > > > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon to > > appear once > > > > > > at the start of the I-D. > > > > > > > > > > > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for multiple I-Ds > was > > > > > > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RFC Editor > Note > > for > > > > > > each, and not to use the I-D name. > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Petch > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > > > > > > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" > > > > > > Cc: ; > > ; > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of > > > > > > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mahesh, > > > --000000000000c3dbf2058524a96c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tom,=C2=A0

Apologies, I misunderstood your comment o= n references. The [] would be removed.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Who knew updating and compiling yang module while sitting i= n a WG session is not good :)
Will make an update SOON fixing these!=C2=A0= =C2=A0

Thanks again for all your effort in keeping yang drafts in go= od condition!=C2=A0

Regards,
Dhruv


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O= n Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 6:48 PM tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dhruv Dhody" <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:35 PM

Done and a new version is posted.

<tp>

The prefixes look good and the line lengths I think are ok - I make it
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in -10 you had
"=C2=A0 =C2=A0import ietf-te-types {=C2=A0 =C2=A0prefix "te-types= ";=C2=A0 reference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-types: Traffic Engin= eering Common YANG
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Types";=C2=A0 "
which looks ok

in -11 you have
=C2=A0 import ietf-te-types {=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0prefix te-types;=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0reference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "[I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-types]: Traffic Engineeri= ng Common YANG
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Types";
which does not look ok to me

Recall that a YANG module is plain text so there cannot be any XML/HTML
style references/links and that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-types]:
looks to me as if it has XML underpinning it which is not ok in a YANG
module

And this has happened in 16 places.

Also, IANA Considerations does not register

=C2=A0 =C2=A0URI:=C2=A0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-pcep-stats

Security Considerations talks of a YANG module when the I-D has two,
giving the flavour, as with the IANA Considerations, that the second
module, pcep-stats, has not really been considered.=C2=A0 Since it is
statistics, I imagine that there are no sensitive objects there, in
which case I would add a sentence to spell that out.

And something new
/Segement Routing /Segment Routing /

Tom Petch

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 18:34, tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Dhruv
>
> I commented up thread that the prefixes used in this I-D were not the<= br> > ones that appear in the imported modules and said I thought that that<= br> > was discouraged but ok. Checking RFC8407, it says
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 The proper module prefix MUST be used for all ide= ntifiers
imported
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0from other modules.
>
> It is a MUST not a SHOULD so I believe that you must bring those
> prefixes in line for key-chain, tls-client, tls-server.=C2=A0 YANG all= ows
it,
> YANG guidelines does not.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dhruv Dhody" <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:38 PM
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> The newer version of pyang worked! Thanks for your help!
>
> I found the full tree useful when I am searching for a leaf in the
> yang models and understand how it fits in the overall tree. Thus I see=
> value in both. We can also consider if we should also update 5.2-5.6 > additionally.
>
> Thanks!
> Dhruv
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Mahesh, Tom,
> > >
> > > Got it, will make the necessary change soon.
> > >
> > > Where I need help is the tree creation, even though I use > > > '--tree-line-length' I faced the issue with overrunn= ing the 80
> > > characters.
> > >
> > > pyang --ietf -f tree --tree-line-length=3D68 --tree-depth=3D= 10
> > > ietf-pcep@2019-03-24.yang --ietf >ietf-pcep.tree
> >
> > Have you tried using pyang 1.7.8?=C2=A0 When I run that the tree = seems to
> > fit the line lengths.
> >
> > > That made me pick a shorter prefix, but happy to learn if th= ere is
a
> > > better way out there!
> >
> > Personally, I'm not too fond of very large tree diagrams.=C2= =A0 I prefer
to
> > split them into smaller diagrams.=C2=A0 So I like your overview d= iagram
in
> > section 5.1.=C2=A0 I would then probably add a small diagram in e= ach of
the
> > section 5.2-5.6, and remove secion 5.7 completely.=C2=A0 But this= is just
> > my personal preference!
> >
> > /martin
> >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Dhruv
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:16 PM Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
> > > > > On the question of prefix, where I an interested i= n the
opinion
> of a
> > > > > YANG
> > > > > Doctor, you use the single letter 'p' and = say that a longer
> prefix gives
> > > > > you line length problems.=C2=A0 YANG does allow st= atements to span
> lines, as
> > > > > happens in almost every TEAS module so for me that= is not a
very
> good
> > > > > reason; I would prefer something of two characters= or more.
> > > > >
> > > > > I note that IANA Considerations says
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Prefix:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcep
> > > > > which would be my first choice even if I then have= to span
> lines.
> > > >
> > > > I strongly agree.=C2=A0 Since the prefix is actually pa= rt of the IANA
> > > > registry and needs to be unique, I think you should use= a longer
> > > > prefix.=C2=A0 "pcep" seems reasonable.=C2=A0 = If you run into line length
> > > > problems, I'll be glad to help you fix them.
> > > >
> > > > Before this document goes to the RFC editor, I suggest = you run
the
> > > > tool:
> > > >
> > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-= length 69 <FILE>
> > > >
> > > > on these modules, in order to get them formatted consis= tently
with
> the
> > > > rest of the IETF modules.
> > > >
> > > > > You import the module key-chain but you do not use= the prefix
> that it
> > > > > defines, namely key-chain; not forbidden but not r= ecommended
> practice
> > > > >
> > > > > Likewise tls-client should be tlsc and tls-server = tlss.
> > > > >
> > > > > Security and IANA Considerations deal with
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ietf-pcep
> > > > > What about
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 module ietf-pcep-stats {
> > > > > which I think needs separate coverage, a separate = section, in
> Security
> > > > > and must be covered in IANA Considerations.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with
> > > > > "I-D.ietf-pce-association-group: PCEP Extensi= ons for ...
> > > > > as a reference is that when it appears in the text= of the I-D,
> then it
> > > > > is as
> > > > >=C2=A0 [I-D.ietf-pce-association-group]
> > > > > i.e. a XML/HTML type anchor which is picked up by = tools so the
> RFC
> > > > > Editor cannot miss it.
> > > > >
> > > > > When it appears in the YANG module, it must be pla= in text as
in
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "I-D.ietf-pce-asso= ciation-group: PCEP Extensions for
....
> > > > > so the tools cannot pick it up, it must be spotted= by eye and
so
> might
> > > > > be missed.=C2=A0 Hence I suggest using
> > > > >
> > > > > "RFC YYYY - PCEP Extensions for
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Establishing Relationsh= ips Between Sets of LSPs";
> > > > >
> > > > > with a note to the RFC Editor asking them to repla= ce YYYY with
> the RFC
> > > > > number assigned to I-D.ietf-pce-association-group<= br> > > > > >
> > > > > Likewise RFC ZZZZ for
> > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "I-D.ietf-pce-segm= ent-routing: PCEP Extensions for
> Segment
> > > > > and so on for the others (of which there are sever= al)
> > > > >
> > > > > The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes th= ereon to
> appear once
> > > > > at the start of the I-D.
> > > > >
> > > > > So my previous comment was that using XXXX for mul= tiple I-Ds
was
> > > > > confusing but I meant to use YYYY ZZZZ, with an RF= C Editor
Note
> for
> > > > > each, and not to use the I-D name.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Petch
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dhruv Dhody" <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: "Mahesh Jethanandani" <mjethanandani@gmail.com<= /a>>
> > > > > Cc: <draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang.all@ietf.org&= gt;;
> <yang-do= ctors@ietf.org>;
> > > > > <pce@ietf.org>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of
> > > > > draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mahesh,
<snip>

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