From nobody Fri Nov 1 09:18:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DE7120A06; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 09:18:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: Cc: pce@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157262509245.31895.4026319769169461630@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:18:12 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] IPR Disclosure Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 16:18:16 -0000 Dear Dhruv Dhody, Adrian Farrel, Zhenbin Li: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "PCEP Extension for Flow Specification" (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2019-11-01 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3840/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Sat Nov 2 16:25:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8F0120132; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:25:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <157273711242.5998.2648406748165255297@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 16:25:12 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 23:25:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Extension for Flow Specification Authors : Dhruv Dhody Adrian Farrel Zhenbin Li Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2019-11-02 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable of selecting paths through a traffic engineered network. These paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements. Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey the details of the computed path. Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow Specifications". RFC 5575 defines the Flow Specification and describes how Flow Specification Components are used to describe traffic flows. RFC 5575 also defines how Flow Specifications may be distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic flows to be associated with routes. This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support dissemination of Flow Specifications. This allows a PCE to indicate what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Nov 2 16:29:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3D5120072 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:29:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vtXP3nr7cCe1 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5288120020 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xA2NTgwC006481 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:29:42 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEE622044 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:29:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 995F122042 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:29:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([84.93.96.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xA2NTfeI020705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:29:42 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <157273711267.5998.5402371998822829565.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <157273711267.5998.5402371998822829565.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:29:42 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <017e01d591d5$67a49ac0$36edd040$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQEUq+uUCIjIID7rrc6wW1wa2Yj4Q6j6UmxQ Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 84.93.96.25 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-25018.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--25.172-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--25.172-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-25018.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--25.172300-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: SpUFBS04J79B0jhVMKrChXFPUrVDm6jtIiTd2l7lf6G67Q3uPo9KI8qa e4dFK5zKSMQbWc3fWqr70SaVHefKTr7NV4PnjfmaSyH6bNPVSdvjBCVg/SxGbziDtkvCXnKtV6G JyRPLfOLQGWZ/vm5ATWc+f+DDdMtIuC0n+lGQyiMc9jA4mLo8uVHewY36PuY0lv1p334rFmNyeL PMYZH47oPnsLLWGT2+VkGKALU+28psMVyAAdvrLbYVne5VEEpVBtG6netTkaWhq7lGRkSlHXGCP Ah3PmLX+ma/pMLmPrbgxFYnLTyi+vpC5SMG+P7Xfc7cX82yHHl3G1bsm5zfjGtEzrC9eANp/4jj lDwf4f7jzUu2NznfJXaD+AlAXmEOJqcDJ9fgy4ozL6MySEJ0VnVNoFzxmabn/Nh5ZjAjQgmn2dT oezJBb4d1YGoonosK2nDxWn8ggSUBSVElkD14Js+Qb/9oChYJSuH+GfgmQGcIiUrQM7y5Avea4u H4Y9hvmU00MdK0iwGfeRswSNWh8rDceXUhrCO3BytCIW2H3sebYck3o66U7Azvg1/q1MH2wZNlF d+3wSzykzK4eLDbgmmevJVqJe6Av1l2Uvx6idoEQBSG7na3yH8DvkUabErVKrauXd3MZDUMFsa+ 1wyh/JRMZUCEHkRt X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 23:29:47 -0000 Hi, I think I caught all of the WG last call comments: viz. Acee's RTGDir = review. Best, Adrian -- In Singapore? Need something to read? Don't waste your time with Internet-Drafts. Read fairy tales instead. Fairy stories for adults of all ages =E2=80=A2 Tales from the Wood =E2=80=A2 More Tales from the Wood =E2=80=A2 Tales from Beyond the Wood =E2=80=A2 Tales from the Castle Get them on line https://www.feedaread.com/profiles/8604/ Or buy a signed copy from me by post *** Stop me in the corridor at IETF-106 to get a copy *** -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org =20 Sent: 02 November 2019 23:25 To: Adrian Farrel ; Dhruv Dhody = ; Zhenbin Li Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06.txt A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Adrian Farrel and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec Revision: 06 Title: PCEP Extension for Flow Specification Document date: 2019-11-02 Group: pce Pages: 32 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/ Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06 Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-06 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable of selecting paths through a traffic engineered network. These paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements. Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey the details of the computed path. Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow Specifications". RFC 5575 defines the Flow Specification and describes how Flow Specification Components are used to describe traffic flows. RFC 5575 also defines how Flow Specifications may be distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic flows to be associated with routes. This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support dissemination of Flow Specifications. This allows a PCE to indicate what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of. = =20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat From nobody Sun Nov 3 21:43:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31746120077; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:43:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <157284621205.13473.17830449207254424614@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 21:43:32 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-03.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 05:43:32 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : PCEP Procedures and Protocol Extensions for Using PCE as a Central Controller (PCECC) of LSPs Authors : Quintin Zhao Zhenbin Li Mahendra Singh Negi Chao Zhou Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-03.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2019-11-03 Abstract: The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a core component of Software- Defined Networking (SDN) systems. It can compute optimal paths for traffic across a network and can also update the paths to reflect changes in the network or traffic demands. PCE was developed to derive paths for MPLS Label Switched Paths (LSPs), which are supplied to the head end of the LSP using the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP). But SDN has a broader applicability than signaled (G)MPLS traffic-engineered (TE) networks, and the PCE may be used to determine paths in a range of use cases. PCEP has been proposed as a control protocol for use in these environments to allow the PCE to be fully enabled as a central controller. A PCE-based central controller (PCECC) can simplify the processing of a distributed control plane by blending it with elements of SDN and without necessarily completely replacing it. Thus, the LSP can be calculated/setup/initiated and the label forwarding entries can also be downloaded through a centralized PCE server to each network devices along the path while leveraging the existing PCE technologies as much as possible. This document specifies the procedures and PCEP protocol extensions for using the PCE as the central controller. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Nov 3 22:15:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A9112006E; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 22:15:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pce@ietf.org Message-ID: <157284813179.13448.17869295898313758093@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 22:15:31 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-01.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 06:15:32 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Carrying Binding Label/Segment-ID in PCE-based Networks. Authors : Siva Sivabalan Clarence Filsfils Jeff Tantsura Jonathan Hardwick Stefano Previdi Cheng Li Filename : draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-01.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2019-11-03 Abstract: In order to provide greater scalability, network opacity, and service independence, Segment Routing (SR) utilizes a Binding Segment Identifier (BSID). It is possible to associate a BSID to RSVP-TE signaled Traffic Engineering Label Switching Path or binding Segment- ID (SID) to SR Traffic Engineering path. Such a binding label/SID can be used by an upstream node for steering traffic into the appropriate TE path to enforce SR policies. This document proposes an approach for reporting binding label/SID to Path Computation Element (PCE) for supporting PCE-based Traffic Engineering policies. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Nov 4 03:22:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E411200E6 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 03:22:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RhEkRPwv1hNk for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 03:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by 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Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'" , Cc: , References: <157248059396.32502.7485483203706927333@ietfa.amsl.com> <032601d58fc4$b8564080$2902c180$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 21:46:35 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <040c01d59359$555872d0$00095870$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQHi2ihjgA1IJnmANVApJp+clEDdkAPB2fhLAfuauBenMwn1YA== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 84.93.96.25 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-25022.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--17.292-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--17.292-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-25022.002 X-TMASE-Result: 10--17.291900-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: yebcs53SkkCWfDtBOz4q23FPUrVDm6jtyjSDuGPl69BgV1Ynib6P9Yu3 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call review of draft-farrel-pce-stateful-flags-02 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 21:46:49 -0000 Hello Deborah, I wonder whether something has changed in the IETF process that I'm not = aware of. That is possible. > Adrian, I'm also a bit confused on the intention of the draft. While > the tools are not error checking a draft with intended status of PS > against a title indicating an individual submission, the title does=20 > indicate the source of the document. With the current title, this > document is an individual submission to the IETF stream. If this > is a product of the working group, the title needs to reflect it. As > it is requested to be "PS", it does need to reflect the associated > working group. The document has not been adopted by the working group, but it has been = last called by the working group. While the WG chairs are allowed to adopt a document off their own bat, = they prefer to use an adoption poll whenever they do an adoption. That = can add a two week poll, but there is also a queue in many working = groups, so a document can end up dying of boredom. If you can point me at the process rule that says that document emerging = from a WG must have a specific name format then I guess we can change = the document (and also write a draft to change the rule ;-)=20 If you can point me at the rule that says Standards Track documents must = be the product of a working group (not, for example, AD sponsored) I'll = be surprised. > While it is a bit surprising this was not raised in WG Last Call = (hopefully > folks have read the document),=20 The chairs did call out the direct progression of this draft to WG last = call in a mail to the list prior to starting the last call. > it will definitely be flagged with the other > Area Directorate reviews and IESG review. I shall delight in helping them to understand the processes of which = they are guardians :-) > While the working group cycle was very short, the resulting = publication > cycle will be very long. Oh, I have long ago given up on doing things to simply follow the path = of least resistance. The IESG needs to recognise that they are supposed = to facilitate publication (of good documents) not get in the way! If the = resulting cycle is long we will at least know why. > As the WG LC was based on PS status, I would conclude the group is=20 > ok with PS. Either you can change the title to reflect a product of = the > pce working group or change the status to Informational and I'll take > it forward as an individual submission. If you change the title to a > product of the pce working group, I'll follow up with a note to the = list > to double check if anyone has any concerns. And then we can move > ahead. I do hope that we will not get hung up on any misunderstandings of = process. As you observe, the publication cycle for drafts has become = long. Many times they leave the WG and don't hit the RFC Editor Queue = for four months.. I see the process including: - Shepherd review - Directorate review - AD review - IETF last call - Late directorate reviews - IESG review Each of these has three steps: - Queued for action - Review period - Update period Even when the authors are immediately responsive to any review comments = raised, this can drag on a long time. If each review is scheduled for = two weeks, that's 12 weeks burned. If the "silent" time to queue for = action is also a week or two, you can quickly see why the tail of our = process has become a burden. Suddenly the RFC Editor's 8 week queue = seems short! > Looking forward to your choice=F0=9F=98=8A My choice as author is to follow IETF process. You've had a publication request, from the PCE working group to publish = an Internet-Draft on the Standards Track. I hope we can proceed with that without further delay. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:00:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. Title : Updated Rules for Processing Stateful PCE Request Parameters Flags Author : Adrian Farrel Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2019-11-07 Abstract: Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) to support stateful Path Computation Elements (PCEs) are defined in RFC 8231. One of the extensions is the Stateful PCE Request Parameters (SRP) object. That object includes a Flags field that is a set of 32 bit flags, and RFC 8281 defines an IANA registry for tracking assigned flags. However, RFC 8231 does not explain how an implementation should set unassigned flags in transmitted messages, nor how an implementation should process unassigned, unknown, or unsupported flags in received messages. This document updates RFC 8231 by defining the correct behaviors. 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We request you to be vocal to enable us to judge consensus (and justify it). Thanks! Dhruv & Julien On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:30 PM wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. > > Title : Updated Rules for Processing Stateful PCE Request Parameters Flags > Author : Adrian Farrel > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt > Pages : 6 > Date : 2019-11-07 > > Abstract: > Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol > (PCEP) to support stateful Path Computation Elements (PCEs) are > defined in RFC 8231. One of the extensions is the Stateful PCE > Request Parameters (SRP) object. That object includes a Flags field > that is a set of 32 bit flags, and RFC 8281 defines an IANA registry > for tracking assigned flags. However, RFC 8231 does not explain how > an implementation should set unassigned flags in transmitted > messages, nor how an implementation should process unassigned, > unknown, or unsupported flags in received messages. > > This document updates RFC 8231 by defining the correct behaviors. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Fri Nov 8 08:43:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7974912083C for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 08:43:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aKavTqtV5Fjt for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 08:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 153A3120800 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 08:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049295.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049295.ppops.net-00191d01. 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Thanks A.Raghuram Lead Member of Technical Staff Network Infrastructure and Services AT&T Services, Inc. 200 S. Laurel Av, Room C5-2Z01, Middletown, NJ 07748 O 732.420.2471 | ar2521@att.com This communication may contain information that is privileged, or confident= ial. If you are not the intended recipient, please note =A0FYI that any dis= semination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohi= bited.=A0 Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the sende= r immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from his or he= r computer.=A0 -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 11:07 AM To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt Hi WG, As instructed by our AD, I-D has been posted with the file name change - draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org= _doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dpce-2Dstateful-2Dflags_&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQ= icvjIg&r=3DQNToJ4byfiy_4vy6H7dTgAPqN3XciMGI3LRm7GcpRS0&m=3D4jWZGh4Pilf5AM78= JB_cjXTMlAeCh8OHSOOzaEZxcPY&s=3D91BNww-5xjEjT9cA13b_ywxPLKqvcYH0IaQrtno4B3s= &e=3D The chairs request the WG to reaffirm that the WG supports the publication = of the I-D by Friday 22nd Nov. We request you to be vocal to enable us to j= udge consensus (and justify it). Thanks! Dhruv & Julien On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:30 PM wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. > > Title : Updated Rules for Processing Stateful PCE Reque= st Parameters Flags > Author : Adrian Farrel > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt > Pages : 6 > Date : 2019-11-07 > > Abstract: > Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol > (PCEP) to support stateful Path Computation Elements (PCEs) are > defined in RFC 8231. One of the extensions is the Stateful PCE > Request Parameters (SRP) object. That object includes a Flags field > that is a set of 32 bit flags, and RFC 8281 defines an IANA registry > for tracking assigned flags. However, RFC 8231 does not explain how > an implementation should set unassigned flags in transmitted > messages, nor how an implementation should process unassigned, > unknown, or unsupported flags in received messages. > > This document updates RFC 8231 by defining the correct behaviors. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf. > org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dpce-2Dstateful-2Dflags_&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUM= e > MTSQicvjIg&r=3DQNToJ4byfiy_4vy6H7dTgAPqN3XciMGI3LRm7GcpRS0&m=3D4jWZGh4Pil= f > 5AM78JB_cjXTMlAeCh8OHSOOzaEZxcPY&s=3D91BNww-5xjEjT9cA13b_ywxPLKqvcYH0IaQ > rtno4B3s&e=3D > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_ht > ml_draft-2Dietf-2Dpce-2Dstateful-2Dflags-2D00&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMe= M > TSQicvjIg&r=3DQNToJ4byfiy_4vy6H7dTgAPqN3XciMGI3LRm7GcpRS0&m=3D4jWZGh4Pilf= 5 > 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(version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:05:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Tantsura Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 10:05:48 +0100 Message-Id: References: Cc: Dhruv Dhody , "pce@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: To: Jonathan Hardwick X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17A878) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 09:05:55 -0000 +1 Regards, Jeff > On Nov 9, 2019, at 09:53, Jonathan Hardwick wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFI support publication. > Cheers > Jon >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dhruv Dhody =20 > Sent: 08 November 2019 16:07 > To: pce@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt >=20 > Hi WG, >=20 > As instructed by our AD, I-D has been posted with the file name change > - draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00. >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/ >=20 > The chairs request the WG to reaffirm that the WG supports the publication= of the I-D by Friday 22nd Nov. We request you to be vocal to enable us to j= udge consensus (and justify it). >=20 > Thanks! > Dhruv & Julien >=20 >=20 >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:30 PM wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. >> This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.= >>=20 >> Title : Updated Rules for Processing Stateful PCE Reques= t Parameters Flags >> Author : Adrian Farrel >> Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt >> Pages : 6 >> Date : 2019-11-07 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol >> (PCEP) to support stateful Path Computation Elements (PCEs) are >> defined in RFC 8231. One of the extensions is the Stateful PCE >> Request Parameters (SRP) object. That object includes a Flags field >> that is a set of 32 bit flags, and RFC 8281 defines an IANA registry >> for tracking assigned flags. However, RFC 8231 does not explain how >> an implementation should set unassigned flags in transmitted >> messages, nor how an implementation should process unassigned, >> unknown, or unsupported flags in received messages. >>=20 >> This document updates RFC 8231 by defining the correct behaviors. >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/ >>=20 >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.iet= f.org. >>=20 >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pce mailing list >> Pce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Sat Nov 9 02:24:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB674120086 for ; 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I Support the public= ation.

-Qin
=CE=E2=C7=D5 Qin
Mobile=A3=BA+86-13914734360(Mob= ile Number)
Email=A3=BAbill.wu@huawei.com



=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA Jonathan Hardwick<Jonathan.Hardwick=3D4= 0metaswitch.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA Dhruv Dhody<dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>;pce<pce@ietf.org>
=D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-statefu= l-flags-00.txt
=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA 2019-11-09 16:54:23

I support publication.
Cheers
Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: 08 November 2019 16:07
To: pce@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt

Hi WG,

As instructed by our AD, I-D has been posted with the file name change
- draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/

The chairs request the WG to reaffirm that the WG supports the publication = of the I-D by Friday 22nd Nov. We request you to be vocal to enable us to j= udge consensus (and justify it).

Thanks!
Dhruv & Julien


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:30 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IE= TF.
>
>         Title   = ;        : Updated Rules for Processing = Stateful PCE Request Parameters Flags
>         Author  &nbs= p;       : Adrian Farrel
>         Filename  &n= bsp;     : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt
>         Pages   = ;        : 6
>         Date   =          : 2019-11-07
>
> Abstract:
>    Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communica= tion Protocol
>    (PCEP) to support stateful Path Computation Elements= (PCEs) are
>    defined in RFC 8231.  One of the extensions is = the Stateful PCE
>    Request Parameters (SRP) object.  That object i= ncludes a Flags field
>    that is a set of 32 bit flags, and RFC 8281 defines = an IANA registry
>    for tracking assigned flags.  However, RFC 8231= does not explain how
>    an implementation should set unassigned flags in tra= nsmitted
>    messages, nor how an implementation should process u= nassigned,
>    unknown, or unsupported flags in received messages.<= br> >
>    This document updates RFC 8231 by defining the corre= ct behaviors.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/ >
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00<= br> >
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.= ietf.org.
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/int= ernet-drafts/
>
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 --_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABAA93F1492dggeml531mbschi_-- From nobody Sat Nov 9 15:49:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3494F12018D for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 15:49:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MI7H8DryKr1g for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 15:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.iomartmail.com (mta5.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC72C120025 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 15:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta5.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xA9Nn4gJ016402; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 23:49:04 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B8222042; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 23:49:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.224]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ED2922048; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 23:49:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([84.93.96.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xA9Nn3hH027915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 9 Nov 2019 23:49:03 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Dhruv Dhody'" , References: <157314240322.1916.9629098133083944496@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 23:49:00 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <00b301d59758$43494850$c9dbd8f0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGwHBg+bSGd6fBQ+ZK6IO45S2l5DwI3LLDUp7y9zWA= Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 84.93.96.25 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-25034.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--32.096-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--32.096-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-25034.003 X-TMASE-Result: 10--32.096500-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: x2HXvaraFolor4mPA3EMtnFPUrVDm6jtpvDLLlsAH/1YbPLopoBzQoGr elyM0yD6zPH6uaIPRbEsBabeOE348N4V9K8RueK0nMQdNQ64xfcOZNXmvnJaemyIID37xcHKuzz CUxoJKgb/gtFuGRR5kkmnQUOM2vLMRMp8qrwerN2VUcz8XpiS9KUB+KILVUD9Vj3J63pAR3zJH8 5qIKJAocH6JW/zN4BKDm7dEh+WD8kLfKDZOEp85tWvZ0LprH5qv5tdwacZEnpcpms3pMhT0eeyW MLRVf2LSCHaGo1HzdR8MjflxuzQK1tFsD8r+sfMLTHwnYOikQ0JGOwSq6aUKRw0HKhKjTfpn1JE Ev0fxQ+UypjBxLjvrcTYHVUDcbBKe3tLI9yjjkzjxJDUku2PNvj4/bP3ORM3XWqLHKXFAwzgxkS kEB9KYgALGA6iUaZllojz2793u8Dck6EJID+FYH2PoiXxUAcXSTyFqAhtoaYR34ro7k23nRm2jX xDuI1j5AiqRIcQpzAVQqU6HZtHS3wwxS/qCrleiJwEp8weVXxXsnWs5YyG5mblWY7py+QXD+A3v N265hetjzUaT6pNBZGTpe1iiCJqtD9qpBlNF8rAuFFGa+JUhZuTdmBzA9G/DMq3z/Y/gtW8QIu4 z6HhEH7cGd19dSFd X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 23:49:09 -0000 Hard not to be sarcastic, but I'll try. Yes, I still support this document I wrote at the request of the chairs and with the support of the WG to fix an error in a WG RFC and which has already completed WG last call but now has a new name and another two weeks delay before it can go to IETF last call. If anyone asks why the IETF takes so long to produce RFCs, we might use this document as a good example. I know, not the chairs' fault. Best, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: 08 November 2019 16:07 To: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt Hi WG, As instructed by our AD, I-D has been posted with the file name change - draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/ The chairs request the WG to reaffirm that the WG supports the publication of the I-D by Friday 22nd Nov. We request you to be vocal to enable us to judge consensus (and justify it). Thanks! Dhruv & Julien On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:30 PM wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. > > Title : Updated Rules for Processing Stateful PCE Request Parameters Flags > Author : Adrian Farrel > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00.txt > Pages : 6 > Date : 2019-11-07 > > Abstract: > Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol > (PCEP) to support stateful Path Computation Elements (PCEs) are > defined in RFC 8231. One of the extensions is the Stateful PCE > Request Parameters (SRP) object. That object includes a Flags field > that is a set of 32 bit flags, and RFC 8281 defines an IANA registry > for tracking assigned flags. However, RFC 8231 does not explain how > an implementation should set unassigned flags in transmitted > messages, nor how an implementation should process unassigned, > unknown, or unsupported flags in received messages. > > This document updates RFC 8231 by defining the correct behaviors. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-flags-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce _______________________________________________ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Sun Nov 10 17:06:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CC21200E5 for ; 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Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dhruv Dhody" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 1:14 PM > Hi WG, > > This update includes - > > * Pending issues as pointed out by Tom Petch > - Use the right prefix for imported modules > - Removed [] around the reference I-Ds in YANG modules > - Updated IANA > * Added lsp-id as an additional key for LSP-DB > - Useful in case of MBB > * Added implementation section > - If you are aware of an implementation of this YANG module, please > reach out. > > > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > Thanks! > Dhruv (on behalf of co-authors) > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:54 PM wrote: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF. > > > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) > > Authors : Dhruv Dhody > > Jonathan Hardwick > > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > Jeff Tantsura > > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt > > Pages : 113 > > Date : 2019-07-01 > > > > Abstract: > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of Path > > Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for communications > > between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation > > Element (PCE), or between two PCEs. The data model includes > > configuration and state data. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pce mailing list > > Pce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Tue Nov 12 08:21:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0F712006E; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2kQzMbI9_DFu; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BCD212004A; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id A93B449D1A38F7A13CB1; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:21:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from BLREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.41) by LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:21:46 +0000 Received: from BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.9.63]) by BLREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.20.4.41]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 21:51:33 +0530 From: Dhruv Dhody To: tom petch , Dhruv Dhody , "pce@ietf.org" CC: "draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt Thread-Index: AQHVmVLsoYyR5rK+50+AH7HDzlP0rqeHtr0A Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:21:32 +0000 Message-ID: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B8DC9857C@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <156198024658.5639.14789358326677338506@ietfa.amsl.com> <04e201d59952$e3c05b60$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <04e201d59952$e3c05b60$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> Accept-Language: en-GB, zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.77.2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:21:54 -0000 Hi Tom,=20 The -13 version does not have any technical change, it handles a few yang g= uideline statement ordering and tree depth change.=20 https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-13 We are awaiting movement of some dependent yang models before moving ahead = with this one!=20 Thanks!=20 Dhruv > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tom petch > Sent: 12 November 2019 17:46 > To: Dhruv Dhody ; pce@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt >=20 > Dhruv >=20 > I note that -13 has appeared and wondered what significance I should read > into this. >=20 > Tom Petch >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 1:14 PM >=20 > > Hi WG, > > > > This update includes - > > > > * Pending issues as pointed out by Tom Petch > > - Use the right prefix for imported modules > > - Removed [] around the reference I-Ds in YANG modules > > - Updated IANA > > * Added lsp-id as an additional key for LSP-DB > > - Useful in case of MBB > > * Added implementation section > > - If you are aware of an implementation of this YANG module, > please > > reach out. > > > > > > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > Thanks! > > Dhruv (on behalf of co-authors) > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:54 PM wrote: > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the > IETF. > > > > > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation > Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) > > > Authors : Dhruv Dhody > > > Jonathan Hardwick > > > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > > Jeff Tantsura > > > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt > > > Pages : 113 > > > Date : 2019-07-01 > > > > > > Abstract: > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of > Path > > > Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for > communications > > > between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation > > > Element (PCE), or between two PCEs. The data model includes > > > configuration and state data. > > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/ > > > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pce mailing list > > > Pce@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pce mailing list > > Pce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce From nobody Tue Nov 12 08:44:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D158120833; 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If you are waiting for what I think you are waiting for, it could be a long wait. Quote from a recent post on another list talking generally about a large cluster of I-D, one of which is in the Normative References here " > I think it is quite clear that the WG doesn't want more delays. Is it? I only know that Balazs K. wishes to have the first three drafts (crypto-types, truststore, and keystore) completed soon. The Nokia/BBF folks were interested in netconf-server, but forked long ago. Otherwise, I'm unaware of anyone stating a preference. For myself, I only hope to achieve a good result. " Keep waiting:-( Tom Petch Thanks! Dhruv > -----Original Message----- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tom petch > Sent: 12 November 2019 17:46 > To: Dhruv Dhody ; pce@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt > > Dhruv > > I note that -13 has appeared and wondered what significance I should read > into this. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dhruv Dhody" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 1:14 PM > > > Hi WG, > > > > This update includes - > > > > * Pending issues as pointed out by Tom Petch > > - Use the right prefix for imported modules > > - Removed [] around the reference I-Ds in YANG modules > > - Updated IANA > > * Added lsp-id as an additional key for LSP-DB > > - Useful in case of MBB > > * Added implementation section > > - If you are aware of an implementation of this YANG module, > please > > reach out. > > > > > > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > Thanks! > > Dhruv (on behalf of co-authors) > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:54 PM wrote: > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the > IETF. > > > > > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Path Computation > Element Communications Protocol (PCEP) > > > Authors : Dhruv Dhody > > > Jonathan Hardwick > > > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > > Jeff Tantsura > > > Filename : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt > > > Pages : 113 > > > Date : 2019-07-01 > > > > > > Abstract: > > > This document defines a YANG data model for the management of > Path > > > Computation Element communications Protocol (PCEP) for > communications > > > between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and a Path Computation > > > Element (PCE), or between two PCEs. The data model includes > > > configuration and state data. > > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/ > > > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12 > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >pce From nobody Tue Nov 12 15:56:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietf.org Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC3120044; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:56:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions@ietf.org, Julien Meuric , pce-chairs@ietf.org, julien.meuric@orange.com, pce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.110.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Benjamin Kaduk Message-ID: <157360299209.31818.3432820168600441007.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:56:32 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions-15: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:56:33 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions-15: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for addressing my Discuss points! I do have some additional comments on the -15. Section 2.3 I'm still a bit concerned that the references linked from Table 4 may not provide a clear description of what count as Traffic Parameters for our purposes (and how they are encoded), but not in a way that I can express more concretely. Perhaps this is made clear by some RSVP-TE documents with which I am not familiar. ection 2.5.1 root and other endpoints TLVs are the leaves. The root endpoint MUST be the same for all END-POINTS objects. If the root endpoint is not I'm not sure how broadly scoped this restriction is -- it is, e.g., per-LSP? Section 2.5.2.5 with L bit cleared. At most 2 LABEL_SET TLVs MAY be present with the O bit set, with at most one of these having the U bit set and at most one of these having the U bit cleared. For a given U bit value, if This went MUST->MAY in this rev, though I think it might be fine to just use a lowercase "may", since the requirements language doesn't map terribly well to the restriction we're making. From nobody Wed Nov 13 22:43:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D5B120820; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 22:43:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FSEuuHT3QymI; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 22:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 649441200C4; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 22:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id i13so5587579ioj.5; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 22:43:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wTje3905h1qugkcYTX2BJqLwRvFbEzGxCHIcXnPFgKs=; b=EleQdc4YGkkiXbTs+C3Jw7dbzYZb/gr1Wp9OKz06zkWIZAuxPor/j/7FruWrMIfBRP ndraI9lxaKr8+sE9vksmsmjMic13BrqRsd56bPP1I23h8K/5sv/dYOD6+VycUFyKWaw3 ci8COVCy5Xudwa+kZJHt9VUs+3/7yFKggfMdc432f1cORGbMKros3lLf5O3tr3uPA7rE 2kzgplQ2+IWHYZWWo0lrhyGA9yfmCN/u6qy5l1P5sXbHfFm2XE7bhiUnYF4ygz0Xm7To mKBL4EPMt/YjB4Xhq5qlch1NtrbMkOEi3rPXlk/adzJqxdlTEPS50zuMm/ch+GnpnMg3 9mKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wTje3905h1qugkcYTX2BJqLwRvFbEzGxCHIcXnPFgKs=; b=C/qVQguwGNxfjk+haIdP6xmi2pG1jOFxNQlll/TQ5e6JK9vWn4tIUwYUXMKz2xCHS9 IwerWO+09oDaVWZjOGp2KleQKOmzgqi5VuXeMdquR6d4Pi/frHpDySA5GQnhxLAASTfk geJaGc8kgT/M5xl01ucOO53uf3Cc6HWOrO2rDfl4YNo3mEpK/SVNZocbFattyJq4PTeJ NeC9eetXYwPY83nldNyFbC3IHY/yV+mwh/wxn8/qoGJjiZnb85HQq4fIUE9cBSaCS6g9 gfBPfBu+LcJbyJATmba8pDj8J6SooOJcwjKvi/z88t2pj90NzOXEcoS7WdRAdlektppr Dcrw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWfBOpWj/wALW8e3Pzl4gGtOV1h1gzPiEDVh5ZyN1HGhHEgnqz7 y4Xdb/EAi1a/hyunz4WP+7SEP647w7ZQji45AjIYgB2f X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwKS0evrz5LKmfZEycgWOpcv2uq+Eny7s3v47sz5j6MLEl2mWcWR9lOVM/mw9IbsDG0YqyiuaggpyrVAPm+Yog= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b88a:: with SMTP id i132mr7640605iof.1.1573713788373; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 22:43:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 12:12:32 +0530 Message-ID: To: pce@ietf.org Cc: pce-chairs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Agenda for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 06:43:11 -0000 Hi WG, The final agenda for PCE WG meeting at IETF 106 is uploaded - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/agenda-106-pce.html Please send your slides to pce-chairs@ietf.org by Tuesday 19th Nov, earlier is much better! If any of the presenters are remote, please do let us know now. Also use the mailing list to discuss your drafts to make the WG meeting more fruitful. Thanks! Dhruv, Julien & Hari. From nobody Fri Nov 15 07:01:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A465120013; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 07:01:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yk5bTAES3mkH; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 07:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-inet.orange.com [80.12.66.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E72E6120802; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfedar03.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.5]) by opfedar26.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 47F1lN3ysHzFpw3; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:01:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.104]) by opfedar03.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 47F1lN33LmzCqkS; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:01:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.21] (10.114.13.247) by OPEXCAUBM5F.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.13.104) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.468.0; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:01:36 +0100 From: Organization: Orange To: CC: "pce@ietf.org" Message-ID: <22192_1573830096_5DCEBDD0_22192_23_1_050def8f-dc47-4d5b-1303-2928ef08a041@orange.com> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:01:35 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [10.114.13.247] Archived-At: Subject: [Pce] Shepherd Review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec X-BeenThere: pce@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Path Computation Element List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:01:39 -0000 Dear authors, Thank for addressing the comments received during WG LC and RtgDir reviews. Technically, the I-D looks almost ready. I still have one pending question, related to section 8.7. (Priorities and Overlapping Flow Specifications). I understand this section as "priorities within PCEP-installed flow specs follow the same ordering rules as BGP-installed flow specs, i.e. [RFC5575]". Let us now look at a device supporting both protocols to install flow specs: - Is there an implicit scope associated to each set of flow specs making them mutually exclusive? - If both sets can overlap, can we assume that priority rules do not care about the protocol used to install the flow specs? Adding a couple of sentences may be enough to clarify that. Please find below a few additional nits. ------ 1. Introduction --- - The abstract uses "traffic engineered networks", the intro "traffic engineering networks". I do not have any strong preference, but consistency would be welcome. (By the way, no hyphen in "traffic-engineered"?) - s/to Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) networks/to Generalized MPLS (GMPLS)-controlled networks/ - s/about the the LSPs/about the LSPs/ - OLD:    The data flows    intended for a tunnel can be described using Flow Specification    Components, and when PCEP is in use for tunnel initiation it makes    sense for that same protocol to be used to distribute the Flow    Specification Components that describe what data is to flow on those    tunnels.   NEW:    The data flows    intended for a tunnel can be described using Flow Specification    Components; when PCEP is in use for tunnel initiation, it makes    sense for that same protocol to be used to distribute the Flow    Specification Components that describe what data is to flow on those    tunnels. ------ 3.2. Elements of Procedure --- - s/in each case including whether/in each case. This includes whether/ ------ 6. Flow Filter TLV --- OLD:    Only one Flow Filter TLV can be    present and represents the complete definition of a Flow    Specification for traffic to be placed on the tunnel indicated by the    PCEP message in which the PCEP Flow Spec Object is carried. NEW:    Only one Flow Filter TLV can be    present and represents the complete definition of a Flow    Specification for traffic to be placed on a tunnel; this tunnel is    indicated by the PCEP message in which the PCEP Flow Spec Object    is carried. ------ 7. Flow Specification TLVs --- [Page 14] "Two bit flags (S and G) are defined.  They have the common meanings for wildcarding in multicast." -> At least a reference would be appreciated to teach about what "common" refers to. [Page 15]   "if a Multicast Flow    Specification TLV is received with S bit = 0 and G bit = 1 the    receiver SHOULD respond" -> Is there a reason why it is not a MUST? ------ 13. Manageability Considerations --- - s/view the the Flow Specifications/view the Flow Specifications/ - s/implementations MUST support indicating/implementations MUST indicate/  [Guessing it was wrongly fixed in -06.] ------ Thanks, Julien _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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We have received a private communication from someone about the same = section so the authors are going to take a little time to try to work = over this section. We'll see whether our changes make enough difference = to warrant re-polling that section with the WG. Cheers, Adrian -- Bored with reading Interent-Drafts? Read some fairy stories for adults of all ages instead. =E2=80=A2 Tales from the Wood =E2=80=A2 More Tales from the Wood =E2=80=A2 Tales from Beyond the Wood =E2=80=A2 Tales from the Castle Get them on line https://www.feedaread.com/profiles/8604/ Or buy a signed copy from me by post *** Stop me in the corridor at IETF-106 to get a copy *** -----Original Message----- From: Pce On Behalf Of julien.meuric@orange.com Sent: 15 November 2019 15:02 To: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec@ietf.org Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] Shepherd Review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec Dear authors, Thank for addressing the comments received during WG LC and RtgDir reviews. Technically, the I-D looks almost ready. I still have one pending question, related to section 8.7. (Priorities and Overlapping Flow Specifications). I understand this section as "priorities within PCEP-installed flow specs follow the same ordering rules as BGP-installed flow specs, i.e. [RFC5575]". Let us now look at a device supporting both protocols to install flow specs: - Is there an implicit scope associated to each set of flow specs making them mutually exclusive? - If both sets can overlap, can we assume that priority rules do not care about the protocol used to install the flow specs? Adding a couple of sentences may be enough to clarify that. Please find below a few additional nits. ------ 1. Introduction --- - The abstract uses "traffic engineered networks", the intro "traffic engineering networks". I do not have any strong preference, but consistency would be welcome. (By the way, no hyphen in "traffic-engineered"?) - s/to Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) networks/to Generalized MPLS (GMPLS)-controlled networks/ - s/about the the LSPs/about the LSPs/ - OLD: The data flows intended for a tunnel can be described using Flow Specification Components, and when PCEP is in use for tunnel initiation it makes sense for that same protocol to be used to distribute the Flow Specification Components that describe what data is to flow on those tunnels. NEW: The data flows intended for a tunnel can be described using Flow Specification Components; when PCEP is in use for tunnel initiation, it makes sense for that same protocol to be used to distribute the Flow Specification Components that describe what data is to flow on those tunnels. ------ 3.2. Elements of Procedure --- - s/in each case including whether/in each case. This includes whether/ ------ 6. Flow Filter TLV --- OLD: Only one Flow Filter TLV can be present and represents the complete definition of a Flow Specification for traffic to be placed on the tunnel indicated by the PCEP message in which the PCEP Flow Spec Object is carried. NEW: Only one Flow Filter TLV can be present and represents the complete definition of a Flow Specification for traffic to be placed on a tunnel; this tunnel is indicated by the PCEP message in which the PCEP Flow Spec Object is carried. ------ 7. Flow Specification TLVs --- [Page 14] "Two bit flags (S and G) are defined. They have the common meanings for wildcarding in multicast." -> At least a reference would be appreciated to teach about what "common" refers to. [Page 15] "if a Multicast Flow Specification TLV is received with S bit =3D 0 and G bit =3D 1 the receiver SHOULD respond" -> Is there a reason why it is not a MUST? ------ 13. Manageability Considerations --- - s/view the the Flow Specifications/view the Flow Specifications/ - s/implementations MUST support indicating/implementations MUST indicate/ [Guessing it was wrongly fixed in -06.] ------ Thanks, Julien _________________________________________________________________________= ________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations = confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez = recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages = electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme = ou falsifie. Merci. 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Thanks, Hari On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:43 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > Hi WG, > > The final agenda for PCE WG meeting at IETF 106 is uploaded - > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/agenda-106-pce.html > > Please send your slides to pce-chairs@ietf.org by Tuesday 19th Nov, > earlier is much better! > > If any of the presenters are remote, please do let us know now. > > Also use the mailing list to discuss your drafts to make the WG > meeting more fruitful. > > Thanks! > Dhruv, Julien & Hari. > --000000000000aa67560597b33fab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Please= send your slides to pce-chairs@ietf= .org by Tuesday 19th Nov.

Thanks,<= /div>
Hari

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:43 PM Dhruv Dhody <<= a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com">dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Hi WG,

The final agenda for PCE WG meeting at IETF 106 is uploaded -
https://datatracker.ietf.org/m= eeting/106/materials/agenda-106-pce.html

Please send your slides to pce-chairs@ietf.org by Tuesday 19th Nov,
earlier is much better!

If any of the presenters are remote, please do let us know now.

Also use the mailing list to discuss your drafts to make the WG
meeting more fruitful.

Thanks!
Dhruv, Julien & Hari.
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If there are any corrections, please let us know at pce-chairs@ietf.org . Thanks! Dhruv On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 7:22 AM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > > Hi WG, > > Details for the today's PCE WG session - > > o Slide: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/session/pce > o Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-106-pce?useMonospaceFont=true > o Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf106/pce > > Thanks! > Dhruv From nobody Wed Nov 27 19:45:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pce@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB82120B38 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:45:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost 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You are right that we need a solution. =20 A couple of points about your draft=E2=80=A6 =20 I don=E2=80=99t think it is necessary or advisable to repeat the format = of the existing PLSP-ID object, or to list the currently-assigned bits = and meanings. Doing so creates potential conflict between two different = normative documents. =20 I believe that processing the TLVs in the object is mandatory, so I do = not believe that you need to use a bit (bit 0) in the existing flags = field to indicate that the LSP-Extended-Flags TLV is present. It will be = found if it is there. (I don=E2=80=99t feel strongly about this, and = other may find the indication to be useful). =20 You have not given a value for the Length field in the = LSP-Extended-Flags TLV. Is this because you intend that the TLV should = scale if more than 32 bits are needed? If so, you should give some clues = about processing. If not, you should just set the value. =20 You need to describe backwards compatibility. How will legacy = implementations process this TLV and what will be the effect on the = setting of any bits? =20 I think that in Singapore someone suggested comparing with the work done = for RSVP-TE LSP Attributes. See RFC 5420. In that work we defined two = TLVs to cover attributes that must be processed, and attributes that may = be ignored. I=E2=80=99m not sure you need this, but think about it. =20 I think section 6.1 is broken. You don=E2=80=99t need two flags, do you? =20 You need to ask IANA for a new TLV type for your new TLV. =20 You need to ask IANA for a new registry to track the bits in your new = TLV. =20 Cheers, Adrian =20 From: Pce On Behalf Of xiong.quan@zte.com.cn Sent: 28 November 2019 03:44 To: andrew.stone@nokia.com; dhruv.ietf@gmail.com; loa@pi.nu Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: [Pce] [pce] :New Version Notification for = draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt =20 Hi all, =20 I have summitted the draft which proposes a new LSP-EXTENDED-FLAG TLV = for LSP object to extend the length of the flag field. Could you please give me some suggestions about the format? =20 Thanks, Quan =20 =20 =E5=8E=9F=E5=A7=8B=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6 =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Ainternet-drafts@ietf.org = > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A=E7=86=8A=E6=B3=8900091065; =E6=97=A5 =E6=9C=9F =EF=BC=9A2019=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5 15:54 =E4=B8=BB =E9=A2=98 =EF=BC=9ANew Version Notification for = draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Quan Xiong and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag Revision: 00 Title: LSP Object Flag field of Stateful PCE Document date: 2019-11-26 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00 Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag Abstract: RFC8231 describes a set of extensions to PCEP to enable stateful control of MPLS-TE and GMPLS Label Switched Paths(LSPs) via PCEP. One of the extensions is the LSP object which includes a Flag field and the length is 12 bits. However, 11 bits of the Flag field has been assigned in RFC8231, RFC8281 and RFC8623 respectively. This document updates RFC8231 by defining a new LSP-EXTENDED-FLAG TLV for LSP object to extend the length of the flag. = =20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat =20 ------=_NextPart_000_04F4_01D5A5E5.FE427640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Quan,

 

Thanks for = picking up this work. You are right that we need a = solution.

 

A couple of = points about your draft=E2=80=A6

 

I = don=E2=80=99t think it is necessary or advisable to repeat the format of = the existing PLSP-ID object, or to list the currently-assigned bits and = meanings. Doing so creates potential conflict between two different = normative documents.

 

I believe = that processing the TLVs in the object is mandatory, so I do not believe = that you need to use a bit (bit 0) in the existing flags field to = indicate that the LSP-Extended-Flags TLV is present. It will be found if = it is there. (I don=E2=80=99t feel strongly about this, and other may = find the indication to be useful).

 

You have = not given a value for the Length field in the LSP-Extended-Flags TLV. Is = this because you intend that the TLV should scale if more than 32 bits = are needed? If so, you should give some clues about processing. If not, = you should just set the value.

 

You need to = describe backwards compatibility. How will legacy implementations = process this TLV and what will be the effect on the setting of any = bits?

 

I think = that in Singapore someone suggested comparing with the work done for = RSVP-TE LSP Attributes. See RFC 5420. In that work we defined two TLVs = to cover attributes that must be processed, and attributes that may be = ignored. I=E2=80=99m not sure you need this, but think about = it.

 

I think = section 6.1 is broken. You don=E2=80=99t need two flags, do = you?

 

You need to = ask IANA for a new TLV type for your new TLV.

 

You need to = ask IANA for a new registry to track the bits in your new = TLV.

 

Cheers,

Adrian

 

From: Pce <pce-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of = xiong.quan@zte.com.cn
Sent: 28 November 2019 = 03:44
To: andrew.stone@nokia.com; dhruv.ietf@gmail.com; = loa@pi.nu
Cc: pce@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] [pce] :New = Version Notification for = draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt

 

Hi = all,

 

I  have = summitted the draft which proposes a = new LSP-EXTENDED-FLAG TLV for LSP object to=  extend the length of the flag = field.

Could you = please give me some suggestions about the = format?

 

Thanks,

Quan=

 

 

=E5=8E=9F=E5=A7=8B=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Ainternet-drafts@ietf.org = <internet-drafts@ietf.org>=

=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A= =E7=86=8A=E6=B3=8900091065;

=E6=97=A5 = =E6=9C=9F = =EF=BC=9A2019=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5 = 15:54

=E4=B8=BB = =E9=A2=98 = =EF=BC=9ANew Version = Notification for = draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt


A new version of I-D, draf= t-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt
has been successfully submi= tted by Quan Xiong and posted to theIETF repository.

Name:      &= nbsp; draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag
Revision:    0= 0
Title:        LSP Objec= t Flag field of Stateful PCE
Document da= te:    2019-11-26
Group:    &n= bsp;   Individual Submission
Pages:  &nb= sp;     6
URL:     &= nbsp;      https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt=
Status:         https= ://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag/
Htmlized:&nb= sp;      https://= tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00
Htmlized: &nb= sp;     h= ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag

=
Abstract:
   RFC8231 describes a set=  of extensions to PCEP to enable state= ful
   control of MPLS-TE and GMPLS=  Label Switched Paths(LSPs) via PCEP.
 &= nbsp; One of the extensions is the LSP=  object which includes a Flag field
&nbs= p;  and the length is 12 bits. &n= bsp;However, 11 bits of the Flag field = ;has
   been assigned in RFC8231, R= FC8281 and RFC8623 respectively.

   = This document updates RFC8231 by defining a=  new LSP-EXTENDED-FLAG TLV
   for L= SP object to extend the length of the&= nbsp;flag.

         &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             <= br>

Please note that it may take a&n= bsp;couple of minutes from the time of = ;submission
until the htmlized version and di= ff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The I= ETF Secretariat

 

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Other I-Ds that define extended flags can make the TLV as mandatory for that feature. Also if we go this route, we do not need to make this I-D as an update to RFC 8231, it could be just be an extension and business as usual. Thanks! Dhruv On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:48 PM Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi Quan, > > > > Thanks for picking up this work. You are right that we need a solution. > > > > A couple of points about your draft=E2=80=A6 > > > > I don=E2=80=99t think it is necessary or advisable to repeat the format o= f the > existing PLSP-ID object, or to list the currently-assigned bits and > meanings. Doing so creates potential conflict between two different > normative documents. > > > > I believe that processing the TLVs in the object is mandatory, so I do no= t > believe that you need to use a bit (bit 0) in the existing flags field to > indicate that the LSP-Extended-Flags TLV is present. It will be found if = it > is there. (I don=E2=80=99t feel strongly about this, and other may find t= he > indication to be useful). > > > > You have not given a value for the Length field in the LSP-Extended-Flags > TLV. Is this because you intend that the TLV should scale if more than 32 > bits are needed? If so, you should give some clues about processing. If > not, you should just set the value. > > > > You need to describe backwards compatibility. How will legacy > implementations process this TLV and what will be the effect on the setti= ng > of any bits? > > > > I think that in Singapore someone suggested comparing with the work done > for RSVP-TE LSP Attributes. See RFC 5420. In that work we defined two TLV= s > to cover attributes that must be processed, and attributes that may be > ignored. I=E2=80=99m not sure you need this, but think about it. > > > > I think section 6.1 is broken. You don=E2=80=99t need two flags, do you? > > > > You need to ask IANA for a new TLV type for your new TLV. > > > > You need to ask IANA for a new registry to track the bits in your new TLV= . > > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > > > *From:* Pce *On Behalf Of *xiong.quan@zte.com.cn > *Sent:* 28 November 2019 03:44 > *To:* andrew.stone@nokia.com; dhruv.ietf@gmail.com; loa@pi.nu > *Cc:* pce@ietf.org > *Subject:* [Pce] [pce] :New Version Notification for > draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have summitted the draft which proposes a > new LSP-EXTENDED-FLAG TLV for LSP object to extend the length of the flag > field. > > Could you please give me some suggestions about the format? > > > > Thanks, > > Quan > > > > > > =E5=8E=9F=E5=A7=8B=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6 > > *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A*internet-drafts@ietf.org > > *=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A*=E7=86=8A=E6=B3=8900091065; > > *=E6=97=A5* *=E6=9C=9F* *=EF=BC=9A*2019=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5 15= :54 > > *=E4=B8=BB* *=E9=A2=98* *=EF=BC=9A**New Version Notification for draft-xi= ong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt* > > > A new version of I-D, draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Quan Xiong and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag > Revision: 00 > Title: LSP Object Flag field of Stateful PCE > Document date: 2019-11-26 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag= / > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00 > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag > > > Abstract: > RFC8231 describes a set of extensions to PCEP to enable stateful > control of MPLS-TE and GMPLS Label Switched Paths(LSPs) via PCEP. > One of the extensions is the LSP object which includes a Flag field > and the length is 12 bits. However, 11 bits of the Flag field has > been assigned in RFC8231, RFC8281 and RFC8623 respectively. > > This document updates RFC8231 by defining a new LSP-EXTENDED-FLAG TLV > for LSP object to extend the length of the flag. > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > --00000000000075a9960598680e49 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Quan, Adrian,=C2=A0

As a WG contributor, I agree wit= h Adrian that just the presence of this TLV is good enough to require the p= rocessing of extended flags. Other I-Ds that define extended flags can make= the TLV as mandatory for that feature.=C2=A0

Also if we go this=C2= =A0route, we do not need to make this I-D as an update to RFC 8231, it coul= d be just be an extension and business=C2=A0as usual.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Th= anks!=C2=A0
Dhruv

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:48 PM Adrian Farrel <<= a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Quan,

=C2=A0

Thanks for pickin= g up this work. You are right that we need a solution.=

=C2=A0

A couple of points about your draft=E2=80=A6

=C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t think it is necessary or advisabl= e to repeat the format of the existing PLSP-ID object, or to list the curre= ntly-assigned bits and meanings. Doing so creates potential conflict betwee= n two different normative documents.

=C2=A0

= I believe that processing the TLVs in the object is mandatory, so I do not = believe that you need to use a bit (bit 0) in the existing flags field to i= ndicate that the LSP-Extended-Flags TLV is present. It will be found if it = is there. (I don=E2=80=99t feel strongly about this, and other may find the= indication to be useful).

<= span>=C2=A0

You have n= ot given a value for the Length field in the LSP-Extended-Flags TLV. Is thi= s because you intend that the TLV should scale if more than 32 bits are nee= ded? If so, you should give some clues about processing. If not, you should= just set the value.

<= u>=C2=A0

You need to desc= ribe backwards compatibility. How will legacy implementations process this = TLV and what will be the effect on the setting of any bits?

=C2=A0

I think that in Singapore someone suggested comparin= g with the work done for RSVP-TE LSP Attributes. See RFC 5420. In that work= we defined two TLVs to cover attributes that must be processed, and attrib= utes that may be ignored. I=E2=80=99m not sure you need this, but think abo= ut it.

=C2=A0

I think section 6.1 is broken.= You don=E2=80=99t need two flags, do you?

=C2=A0

= You need to ask IANA for a new TLV type for your new TLV.

=C2=A0

You need to ask IANA for a new registry to track= the bits in your new TLV.

<= span>=C2=A0

Cheers,=

Adrian

=C2=A0

From: Pce <pce-bou= nces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of xiong.quan@zte.com.cn
Sent: 28 Nove= mber 2019 03:44
To: andrew.stone@nokia.com; dhruv.ietf@gmail.com; loa@pi.nu
Cc: pce@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] [pce] = :New Version Notification for draft-xiong-pce-lsp-flag-00.txt=

=C2=A0

Hi all,

<= /u>=C2=A0

I =C2=A0have summitted the draft which proposes a new=C2=A0L= SP-EXTENDED-FLAG=C2=A0TLV=C2=A0for=C2=A0LSP=C2=A0object=C2=A0to=C2=A0extend= =C2=A0the=C2=A0length=C2=A0of=C2=A0the=C2=A0flag field.

Could y= ou please give me some suggestions about the format?

=C2= =A0

Thanks,

Quan

=C2=A0

=C2= =A0

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