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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extension for Flow Specification
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Adrian Farrel
                          Zhenbin Li
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09.txt
	Pages           : 33
	Date            : 2020-06-01

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable
   of selecting paths through a traffic engineering network.  These
   paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may
   be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements.
   Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey
   the details of the computed path.

   Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow
   Specifications".  RFC XXXX defines the Flow Specification and
   describes how Flow Specification Components are used to describe
   traffic flows.  RFC XXXX also defines how Flow Specifications may be
   distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic flows to be associated
   with routes.

   This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support
   dissemination of Flow Specifications.  This allows a PCE to indicate
   what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of.

   RFC Editor Note: Please replace XXXX in the Abstract with the RFC
   number assigned to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis when it is published.
   Please remove this note.


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I have reviewed the latest version of this draft and I do believe that it
is ready to progress to the next stage of the publication process.

Regards,
-Pavan

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:34 AM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : PCEP Extension for Flow Specification
>         Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
>                           Adrian Farrel
>                           Zhenbin Li
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09.txt
>         Pages           : 33
>         Date            : 2020-06-01
>
> Abstract:
>    The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable
>    of selecting paths through a traffic engineering network.  These
>    paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may
>    be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements.
>    Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey
>    the details of the computed path.
>
>    Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow
>    Specifications".  RFC XXXX defines the Flow Specification and
>    describes how Flow Specification Components are used to describe
>    traffic flows.  RFC XXXX also defines how Flow Specifications may be
>    distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic flows to be associated
>    with routes.
>
>    This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support
>    dissemination of Flow Specifications.  This allows a PCE to indicate
>    what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of.
>
>    RFC Editor Note: Please replace XXXX in the Abstract with the RFC
>    number assigned to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis when it is published.
>    Please remove this note.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I have reviewed the latest version of this draft and =
I do believe that it is ready to progress to the next stage of the publicat=
ion process.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>-Pavan<br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:34 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@iet=
f.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.<b=
r>
<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Dhru=
v Dhody<br>
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 2020-06-01<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component c=
apable<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0of selecting paths through a traffic engineering network.=C2=
=A0 These<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation,=
 or may<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network eleme=
nts.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to c=
onvey<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the details of the computed path.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic flows may be categorized and described using &quot;Flo=
w<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Specifications&quot;.=C2=A0 RFC XXXX defines the Flow Specific=
ation and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0describes how Flow Specification Components are used to descri=
be<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0traffic flows.=C2=A0 RFC XXXX also defines how Flow Specificat=
ions may be<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic flows to be assoc=
iated<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0with routes.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0dissemination of Flow Specifications.=C2=A0 This allows a PCE =
to indicate<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of=
.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC Editor Note: Please replace XXXX in the Abstract with the =
RFC<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0number assigned to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis when it is publis=
hed.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Please remove this note.<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/</a><br>
<br>
There are also htmlized versions available at:<br>
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=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pc=
e-pcep-flowspec-09</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowsp=
ec-09" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/do=
c/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09</a><br>
<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
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-09" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=
=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio=
n<br>
until the htmlized version and diff are available at <a href=3D"http://tool=
s.ietf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br>
<a href=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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Working Group Name: Path Computation Element
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Dhruv Dhody


Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  100 Minutes
Number of Attendees: 75
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 Chair Conflict: spring teas ccamp
 Technology Overlap:  panrg
 Key Participant Conflict: mpls rift rtgwg detnet idr lsr sfc pals opsawg bess netconf netmod 6man bier rtgarea raw nmrg lsvr ippm





People who must be present:
  Deborah Brungard
  Julien Meuric
  Dhruv Dhody
  Hariharan Ananthakrishnan

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  Do not schedule against RTG area BOF (if any)
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Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for
draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/06/

Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
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The PCE WG has placed draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Dhruv Dhody)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/

Comment:
Ends on 2020-06-22


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Hi Authors,

In preparation for WG adoption on this draft, I'd like all
authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance
with IETF IPR rules.

Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of:

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been
disclosed to the IETF.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been
disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a
timely manner.

Thanks,
- Hari

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I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft.

Thanks,
Siva

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> Hi Authors,
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> In preparation for WG adoption on this draft, I'd like all
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> I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed
> in accordance with IETF IPR rules.
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> I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been
> disclosed to the IETF.
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> I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been
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> Thanks,
> - Hari
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">I am not aware of any IPR=
 applicable to this draft.</span>=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><di=
v>Siva=C2=A0<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:49 AM Hariharan Ananthakris=
hnan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hari@netflix.com">hari@netflix.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;fon=
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normal;padding:0px"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif">Hi Authors,

In preparation for WG adoption on this draft, I&#39;d like all
authors and contributors to confirm on the list that they are in compliance
with IETF IPR rules.

Please respond (copying the mailing list) to say one of:

I am not aware of any IPR applicable to this draft that should be disclosed
in accordance with IETF IPR rules.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, and it has already been
disclosed to the IETF.

I am aware of IPR applicable to this draft, but that has not yet been
disclosed to the IETF. I will work to ensure that it will be disclosed in a
timely manner.

Thanks,
- Hari</font></pre></div></div>
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Support with some comments.

SR policy is  very important for Segment Routing. Adding an Association obj=
ect to support SR policy is a very simple extension, therefore I support th=
is adoption.

Comments:

The SR policy name can be configured via PCEP and BGP or other ways, do we =
need to make sure the name of the same SR policy is identical?

IMHO, the text of how to handle SR policy name conflictions between protoco=
ls should be added.

Thanks,
Cheng





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Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-=
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/=
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Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
- Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are you w=
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This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.

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Reviewer: Robert Sparks
Review result: Ready with Issues

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Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but with
issues to consider before progressing

Minor Issues:

Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying the
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or at
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?

Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is the
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being no
scheduled LSPs in effect?

Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?

You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sure
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two
implementers compute the consequences the same way.

Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative time
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.

Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used? Is
this true for both R=1 and R=0? For R=1, a start time value of 1 vs a start
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmission
or processing delay).

In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explicit
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetitions or
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the next
repetition. I think you mean the former.

At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP peers
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one. I
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.

Nits:

Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest
trying to break it into more than one sentence.

Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please
simplify.

The document uses both "database" and "data base". Please pick one.

Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse. Please clarify.

Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it is
missing more than articles.

Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what "modes" means here.

It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setting B
as specified in 5.2.2.

It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to the
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be explicit
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not
understand yet.

Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noting
that.




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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
        Authors         : Huaimo Chen
                          Yan Zhuang
                          Qin Wu
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-14.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2020-06-10

Abstract:
   This document defines a set of extensions needed to the stateful Path
   Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP), so as to
   enable Labeled Switched Path (LSP) scheduling for path computation
   and LSP setup/deletion based on the actual network resource usage and
   the duration of a traffic service in a centralized network
   environment as stated in RFC 8413.


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Hi Robert,

    Thank you very much for your time and valuable comments.

    My answers/explanations are inline below with prefix [HC].

    Your comments have been addressed in the updated document
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g/

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13
Reviewer: Robert Sparks
Review Date: 2020-06-09
IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12
IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat

Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but =
with
issues to consider before progressing

Minor Issues:

Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying th=
e
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or a=
t
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?

[HC]: We have made it clear in the document through revising the texts.
When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled
intervals of the LSP is computed once.
If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals,
the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and
the LSP will not be set up at all.

Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is=
 the
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being n=
o
scheduled LSPs in effect?

[HC]: We have added the texts explicitly stating that
the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new
requirements cannot be set.

Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?

[HC]: We have removed TCP.

You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sur=
e
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two
implementers compute the consequences the same way.

[HC]: We have added some texts to say that only one of them is used.

Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative t=
ime
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.

[HC]: You are right. The relative time is in seconds.
We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about
synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.

Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used?=
 Is
this true for both R=3D1 and R=3D0? For R=3D1, a start time value of 1 vs a=
 start
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmis=
sion
or processing delay).

[HC]: When R=3D1, Start-Time=3D0 means right now.
Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.
For R=3D0, Start-Time=3D0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:00 UT=
C).
So for both R=3D1 and R=3D0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-Time.

In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explici=
t
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetition=
s or
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the ne=
xt
repetition. I think you mean the former.

[HC]: It is the interval between the end-time of one repetition and
the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to
state this explicitly.

At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP p=
eers
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one=
. I
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.

[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.

Nits:

Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest
trying to break it into more than one sentence.

[HC]: We have split and rephrased it.

Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please
simplify.

[HC]: We have rephrased it.

The document uses both "database" and "data base". Please pick one.

[HC]: We have changed "data base" to database.

Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse. Please clarify.

[HC]: We have rephrased it.

Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it=
 is
missing more than articles.

[HC]: We have revised it.

Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what "modes" means here.

[HC]: We have added some details.

It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setti=
ng B
as specified in 5.2.2.

[HC]: We have added some texts to state this.

It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to =
the
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be expli=
cit
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not
understand yet.

[HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.

Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noti=
ng
that.

[HC]: We have added some texts about this.


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<div class=3D"PlainText">Reviewer: Robert Sparks<br>
Review result: Ready with Issues<br>
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Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13<br>
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Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but =
with<br>
issues to consider before progressing<br>
<br>
Minor Issues:<br>
<br>
Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying th=
e<br>
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or a=
t<br>
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path<br=
>
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?</div>
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through revising the texts.
<br>
</span>
<div>When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled <=
br>
</div>
<div>intervals of the LSP is computed once. <br>
</div>
<div>If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals, <br>
</div>
<div>the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and<br>
</div>
<div>the LSP will not be set up at all.&nbsp;</div>
<br>
Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is=
 the<br>
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being n=
o<br>
scheduled LSPs in effect?</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have added the texts explicitly sta=
ting that
<br>
</span>
<div>the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new <br>
</div>
<span>requirements cannot be set.</span><br>
<br>
Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText">[HC]: We have removed TCP. <br>
<br>
You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and=
<br>
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sur=
e<br>
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two<br>
implementers compute the consequences the same way.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to say that only on=
e of them is used.<br>
<br>
Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative t=
ime<br>
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion<br>
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems=
<br>
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><span>[HC]: You are right. The relative time is in=
 seconds.
<br>
</span>
<div>We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about <br>
</div>
<span>synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.<=
/span><br>
<br>
Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used?=
 Is<br>
this true for both R=3D1 and R=3D0? For R=3D1, a start time value of 1 vs a=
 start<br>
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmis=
sion<br>
or processing delay).<br>
<br>
<span>[HC]: When R=3D1, Start-Time=3D0 means right now. <br>
</span>
<div>Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.=
<br>
</div>
<div>For R=3D0, Start-Time=3D0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:=
00 UTC).<br>
</div>
<span>So for both R=3D1 and R=3D0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-T=
ime.</span><br>
<br>
In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explici=
t<br>
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetition=
s or<br>
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the ne=
xt<br>
repetition. I think you mean the former.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><span>[HC]: It is the interval between the end-tim=
e of one repetition and<br>
</span>
<div>the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to <br>
</div>
<span>state this explicitly.</span><br>
<br>
At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP p=
eers<br>
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one=
. I<br>
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.<br>
<br>
<span>[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.<br>
</span><span></span><br>
Nits:<br>
<br>
Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest=
<br>
trying to break it into more than one sentence.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
[HC]: We have split and rephrased it.<br>
<br>
Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please<br>
simplify.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have rephrased it.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
The document uses both &quot;database&quot; and &quot;data base&quot;. Plea=
se pick one.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText">[HC]: We have changed &quot;data base&quot; to dat=
abase.<br>
<br>
Top of page 7: &quot;In case of former&quot; does not parse. Please clarify=
.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText">[HC]: We have rephrased it.<br>
<br>
Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it=
 is<br>
missing more than articles.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have revised it.<br>
<br>
Section 4.3 at &quot;In both modes&quot;: It's not clear what &quot;modes&q=
uot; means here.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText">[HC]: We have added some details.<br>
<br>
It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setti=
ng B<br>
as specified in 5.2.2.</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to state this.<br>
<br>
It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to =
the<br>
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be expli=
cit<br>
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not=
<br>
understand yet.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.<br>
<br>
Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noti=
ng<br>
that.<br>
<span><br>
</span><span>[HC]: We have added some texts about this.</span><br>
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Hi PCE WG,

You may consider volunteering for the new NomCom. Please note that 2 of
the Routing ADs are going to reach the end of term in 2021.

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This is the second sending of the call for volunteers for the 2020-2021
NomCom.

I wanted to mention a few updates from the previous email (sent 2 weeks
ago):
- I've fixed the URL at the bottom of the email to point to
https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2020/ instead of /2019/. This was a
test to see if anyone was paying attention. Apparently, some people were. ;)
- The IETF 108 registration form includes a checkbox that will let you
volunteer. You can use this instead of emailing me, when you register
for IETF 108.
- I currently have 39 volunteers. Last year had 149. I need more volunteers!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The IETF NomCom appoints people to fill the open slots on the LLC, IETF
Trust, the IAB, and the IESG.

Ten voting members for the NomCom are selected in a verifiably random
way from a pool of volunteers. The more volunteers, the better chance we
have of choosing a random yet representative cross section of the IETF
population.

The details of the operation of the NomCom can be found in BCP 10 (RFC
8713). RFC 3797 details the selection algorithm.

Special for this year (and only this year), we also have RFC 8788
(one-off update to RFC 8713 / BCP 10) to tell us who is eligible to
volunteer:

Members of the IETF community must have attended at least three of
the last five in-person IETF meetings in order to volunteer.

The five meetings are the five most recent in-person meetings that
ended prior to the date on which the solicitation for NomCom
volunteers was submitted for distribution to the IETF community.
Because no IETF 107 in-person meeting was held, for the 2020-2021
Nominating Committee those five meetings are IETFs
102 [Montreal, Canada; July 2018],
103 [Bangkok, Thailand; November 2018],
104 [Prague, Czech Republic; March 2019],
105 [Montreal, Canada; July 2019], and 106 [Singapore; November 2019].

Keep in mind that eligibility is based on in-person attendance at the
five listed meetings. You can check your eligibility at:
https://www.ietf.org/registration/nomcom.py.

If you qualify, please volunteer. Before you decide to volunteer, please
remember that anyone appointed to this NomCom will not be considered as
a candidate for any of the positions that the 2020 - 2021 NomCom is
responsible for filling.

People commonly volunteer by ticking the box on IETF registration forms.
The IETF 106 form did not ask whether people were willing to volunteer.
IETF 107 did ask, but all those registrations were canceled. I have
asked the Secretariat if it is possible to get the list if volunteers
from canceled IETF 107 registrations. If that list is available, I will
contact all who are verified as eligible. But given the uncertainty of
this process, I would encourage people to volunteer directly (see the
bottom of this email for instructions). Thank you for volunteering!

The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2021 IETF
meeting, and thus the positions for which this NomCom is responsible, are

IETF Trust:
Joel Halpern

LLC:
Maja Andjelkovic

IAB:
Jari Arkko
Jeff Tantsura
Mark Nottingham
Stephen Farrell
Wes Hardaker
Zhenbin Li

IESG:
Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair/GEN AD
Alvaro Retana, RTG AD
Barry Leiba, ART AD
Deborah Brungard, RTG AD
Ã‰ric Vyncke, INT AD
Magnus Westerlund, TSV AD
Roman Danyliw, SEC AD
Warren Kumari, OPS AD

All appointments are for 2 years. The Routing area has 3 ADs and the
General area has 1; all other areas have 2 ADs. Thus, all areas (that
have more than one AD) have at least one continuing AD.

The primary activity for this NomCom will begin in July 2020 and should
be completed in January 2021. The NomCom will have regularly scheduled
conference calls to ensure progress. There will be activities to collect
requirements from the community, review candidate questionnaires, review
feedback from community members about candidates, and talk to candidates.

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Thanks! Some initial replies inline (I haven't looked at the updated 
draft yet, but will do so soon):


On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
>     Thank you very much for your time and valuable comments.
>
>     My answers/explanations are inline below with prefix [HC].
>
>     Your comments have been addressed in the updated document
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling/
>
> Best Regards,
> Huaimo
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Robert Sparks via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 5:41 PM
> *To:* gen-art@ietf.org <gen-art@ietf.org>
> *Cc:* last-call@ietf.org <last-call@ietf.org>; pce@ietf.org 
> <pce@ietf.org>; 
> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling.all@ietf.org 
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> *Subject:* Genart last call review of 
> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13
> Reviewer: Robert Sparks
> Review result: Ready with Issues
>
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> Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13
> Reviewer: Robert Sparks
> Review Date: 2020-06-09
> IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12
> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
>
> Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, 
> but with
> issues to consider before progressing
>
> Minor Issues:
>
> Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path 
> satisfying the
> constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, 
> or at
> each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path
> solution for only one of the multiple intervals?
>
> [HC]: We have made it clear in the document through revising the texts.
> When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled
> intervals of the LSP is computed once.
> If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals,
> the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and
> the LSP will not be set up at all.
>
> Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be 
> set, is the
> previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there 
> being no
> scheduled LSPs in effect?
>
> [HC]: We have added the texts explicitly stating that
> the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new
> requirements cannot be set.
>
> Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?
>
> [HC]: We have removed TCP.
>
> You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace 
> periods and
> elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm 
> not sure
> what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two
> implementers compute the consequences the same way.
>
> [HC]: We have added some texts to say that only one of them is used.
>
> Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that 
> relative time
> is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion
> somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential 
> problems
> with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.
>
> [HC]: You are right. The relative time is in seconds.
> We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about
> synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.
>
> Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be 
> used? Is
> this true for both R=1 and R=0? For R=1, a start time value of 1 vs a 
> start
> time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of 
> transmission
> or processing delay).
>
> [HC]: When R=1, Start-Time=0 means right now.
> Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.

And you don't have the same problem (or at least a race condition) for 
R=1, Start-Time=1?

(And perhaps other small values of Start-Time?). This isn't a big deal, 
but it looks like a rough

edge, and I want to make sure it's been thought through.

> For R=0, Start-Time=0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:00 UTC).
> So for both R=1 and R=0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-Time.
>
> In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be 
> explicit
> about whether this is the interval between the start time of two 
> repetitions or
> the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of 
> the next
> repetition. I think you mean the former.
>
> [HC]: It is the interval between the end-time of one repetition and
> the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to
> state this explicitly.

That surprises me. All the other values are start-start and not end-start.

With REPEAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same time every day.

Suppose you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had to express that with 
REPEAT-EVERY-TIME-LENGTH.

If it were start-start, you could set the interval to 86400 (as you 
compute in 9.1) and be done.

With it being end-start you have to calculate the value by subtracting 
the Duration field value from

86400.

I think that's likely to surprise implementors trying to achieve 
something like "every other day".


>
> At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both 
> PCEP peers
> have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please 
> choose one. I
> think you want both places to say MUST NOT.
>
> [HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.
>
> Nits:
>
> Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I 
> suggest
> trying to break it into more than one sentence.
>
> [HC]: We have split and rephrased it.
>
> Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please
> simplify.
>
> [HC]: We have rephrased it.
>
> The document uses both "database" and "data base". Please pick one.
>
> [HC]: We have changed "data base" to database.
>
> Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse. Please clarify.
>
> [HC]: We have rephrased it.
>
> Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I 
> think it is
> missing more than articles.
>
> [HC]: We have revised it.
>
> Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what "modes" means here.
>
> [HC]: We have added some details.
>
> It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires 
> setting B
> as specified in 5.2.2.
>
> [HC]: We have added some texts to state this.
>
> It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point 
> forward to the
> registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be 
> explicit
> about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it 
> does not
> understand yet.
>
> [HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.
>
> Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly 
> noting
> that.
>
> [HC]: We have added some texts about this.
>

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    <p>Thanks! Some initial replies inline (I haven't looked at the
      updated draft yet, but will do so soon):<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote:<br>
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            Thank you very much for your time and valuable comments.</div>
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            Your comments have been addressed in the updated document </div>
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              <div class="PlainText">Reviewer: Robert Sparks<br>
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                Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13<br>
                Reviewer: Robert Sparks<br>
                Review Date: 2020-06-09<br>
                IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12<br>
                IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat<br>
                <br>
                Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed
                Standard RFC, but with<br>
                issues to consider before progressing<br>
                <br>
                Minor Issues:<br>
                <br>
                Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a
                path satisfying the<br>
                constraint happens. Is this done once when the
                periodical LSP arrives, or at<br>
                each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if
                there is no path<br>
                solution for only one of the multiple intervals?</div>
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              <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have made it clear
                  in the document through revising the texts.
                  <br>
                </span>
                <div>When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for
                  all the scheduled <br>
                </div>
                <div>intervals of the LSP is computed once. <br>
                </div>
                <div>If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the
                  intervals, <br>
                </div>
                <div>the constraints for the periodical LSP is not
                  satisfied and<br>
                </div>
                <div>the LSP will not be set up at all. </div>
                <br>
                Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the
                path cannot be set, is the<br>
                previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result
                in no there being no<br>
                scheduled LSPs in effect?</div>
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              <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have added the texts
                  explicitly stating that
                  <br>
                </span>
                <div>the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path
                  for new <br>
                </div>
                <span>requirements cannot be set.</span><br>
                <br>
                Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?</div>
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              <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have removed TCP. <br>
                <br>
                You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have
                both grace periods and<br>
                elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to
                happen. I'm not sure<br>
                what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you
                would have two<br>
                implementers compute the consequences the same way.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to
                say that only one of them is used.<br>
                <br>
                Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call
                out that relative time<br>
                is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you
                need a discussion<br>
                somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and
                potential problems<br>
                with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: You are right. The
                  relative time is in seconds.
                  <br>
                </span>
                <div>We have explicitly stated this and had some
                  discussions about <br>
                </div>
                <span>synchronizing clocks and potential problems with
                  transmission delay.</span><br>
                <br>
                Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a
                value of 0 not be used? Is<br>
                this true for both R=1 and R=0? For R=1, a start time
                value of 1 vs a start<br>
                time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable
                (because of transmission<br>
                or processing delay).<br>
                <br>
                <span>[HC]: When R=1, Start-Time=0 means right now. <br>
                </span>
                <div>Because of transmission and processing delay, this
                  cannot be achieved.<br>
                </div>
              </div>
            </span></font></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p><font size="2">And you don't have the same problem (or at least a
        race condition) for R=1, Start-Time=1?</font></p>
    <p><font size="2">(And perhaps other small values of Start-Time?).
        This isn't a big deal, but it looks like a rough</font></p>
    <p><font size="2">edge, and I want to make sure it's been thought
        through.<br>
      </font></p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:MN2PR13MB31173E62DE6EDEF9D8E92772F2800@MN2PR13MB3117.namprd13.prod.outlook.com">
      <div>
        <div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2"><span
              style="font-size:11pt">
              <div class="PlainText">
                <div>
                </div>
                <div>For R=0, Start-Time=0 means the epoch (i.e., 1
                  January 1970 at 00:00 UTC).<br>
                </div>
                <span>So for both R=1 and R=0, a value of 0 must not be
                  used in Start-Time.</span><br>
                <br>
                In section 5.2.2 at the definition of
                Repeat-time-length: Please be explicit<br>
                about whether this is the interval between the start
                time of two repetitions or<br>
                the interval between the end-time of one repetition and
                the start of the next<br>
                repetition. I think you mean the former.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: It is the interval
                  between the end-time of one repetition and<br>
                </span>
                <div>the start of the next repetition. We had added some
                  texts to <br>
                </div>
                <span>state this explicitly.</span><br>
              </div>
            </span></font></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p><font size="2">That surprises me. All the other values are
        start-start and not end-start.</font></p>
    <p><font size="2">With REPEAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same
        time every day.</font></p>
    <p><font size="2">Suppose you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had
        to express that with REPEAT-EVERY-TIME-LENGTH.<br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font size="2">If it were start-start, you could set the interval
        to 86400 (as you compute in 9.1) and be done.</font></p>
    <p><font size="2">With it being end-start you have to calculate the
        value by subtracting the Duration field value from</font></p>
    <p><font size="2">86400. <br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font size="2">I think that's likely to surprise implementors
        trying to achieve something like "every other day".<br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font size="2"><br>
      </font></p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:MN2PR13MB31173E62DE6EDEF9D8E92772F2800@MN2PR13MB3117.namprd13.prod.outlook.com">
      <div>
        <div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2"><span
              style="font-size:11pt">
              <div class="PlainText">
                <br>
                At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included
                unless both PCEP peers<br>
                have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST
                NOT. Please choose one. I<br>
                think you want both places to say MUST NOT.<br>
                <br>
                <span>[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.<br>
                </span><span></span><br>
                Nits:<br>
                <br>
                Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard
                to read. I suggest<br>
                trying to break it into more than one sentence.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
                [HC]: We have split and rephrased it.<br>
                <br>
                Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard
                to read. Please<br>
                simplify.<br>
                <br>
                [HC]: We have rephrased it.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
                The document uses both "database" and "data base".
                Please pick one.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have changed "data base"
                to database.<br>
                <br>
                Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse.
                Please clarify.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have rephrased it.<br>
                <br>
                Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does
                not parse. I think it is<br>
                missing more than articles.<br>
                <br>
                [HC]: We have revised it.<br>
                <br>
                Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what
                "modes" means here.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have added some details.<br>
                <br>
                It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that
                setting PD requires setting B<br>
                as specified in 5.2.2.</div>
              <div class="PlainText"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to
                state this.<br>
                <br>
                It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt:
                to point forward to the<br>
                registry you are creating for its values. It would also
                be good to be explicit<br>
                about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a
                value here it does not<br>
                understand yet.<br>
                <br>
                [HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.<br>
                <br>
                Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's
                worth explicitly noting<br>
                that.<br>
                <span><br>
                </span><span>[HC]: We have added some texts about this.</span><br>
                <br>
              </div>
            </span></font></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
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This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
        Authors         : Huaimo Chen
                          Yan Zhuang
                          Qin Wu
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-15.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2020-06-11

Abstract:
   This document defines a set of extensions needed to the stateful Path
   Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP), so as to
   enable Labeled Switched Path (LSP) scheduling for path computation
   and LSP setup/deletion based on the actual network resource usage and
   the duration of a traffic service in a centralized network
   environment as stated in RFC 8413.


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Hi Robert,

    Thank you very much for your quick reply.
    My answers/explanations are inline below.

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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Thanks! Some initial replies inline (I haven't looked at the updated draft =
yet, but will do so soon):


On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote:
Hi Robert,

    Thank you very much for your time and valuable comments.

    My answers/explanations are inline below with prefix [HC].

    Your comments have been addressed in the updated document
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Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but =
with
issues to consider before progressing

Minor Issues:

Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying th=
e
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or a=
t
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?

[HC]: We have made it clear in the document through revising the texts.
When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled
intervals of the LSP is computed once.
If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals,
the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and
the LSP will not be set up at all.

Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is=
 the
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being n=
o
scheduled LSPs in effect?

[HC]: We have added the texts explicitly stating that
the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new
requirements cannot be set.

Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?

[HC]: We have removed TCP.

You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sur=
e
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two
implementers compute the consequences the same way.

[HC]: We have added some texts to say that only one of them is used.

Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative t=
ime
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.

[HC]: You are right. The relative time is in seconds.
We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about
synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.

Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used?=
 Is
this true for both R=3D1 and R=3D0? For R=3D1, a start time value of 1 vs a=
 start
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmis=
sion
or processing delay).

[HC]: When R=3D1, Start-Time=3D0 means right now.
Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.

And you don't have the same problem (or at least a race condition) for R=3D=
1, Start-Time=3D1?

(And perhaps other small values of Start-Time?). This isn't a big deal, but=
 it looks like a rough

edge, and I want to make sure it's been thought through.

[HC]: We have added a note to consider transmission delay when R=3D1 and St=
art-Time is small.

For R=3D0, Start-Time=3D0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:00 UT=
C).
So for both R=3D1 and R=3D0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-Time.

In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explici=
t
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetition=
s or
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the ne=
xt
repetition. I think you mean the former.

[HC]: It is the interval between the end-time of one repetition and
the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to
state this explicitly.

That surprises me. All the other values are start-start and not end-start.

With REPEAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same time every day.

Suppose you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had to express that with REPEA=
T-EVERY-TIME-LENGTH.

If it were start-start, you could set the interval to 86400 (as you compute=
 in 9.1) and be done.

With it being end-start you have to calculate the value by subtracting the =
Duration field value from

86400.

I think that's likely to surprise implementors trying to achieve something =
like "every other day".

[HC]: It is the time from the start of one repetition to the start of the n=
ext repetition.

We have updated the document in version 15 (uploaded) accordingly.

At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP p=
eers
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one=
. I
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.

[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.

Nits:

Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest
trying to break it into more than one sentence.

[HC]: We have split and rephrased it.

Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please
simplify.

[HC]: We have rephrased it.

The document uses both "database" and "data base". Please pick one.

[HC]: We have changed "data base" to database.

Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse. Please clarify.

[HC]: We have rephrased it.

Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it=
 is
missing more than articles.

[HC]: We have revised it.

Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what "modes" means here.

[HC]: We have added some details.

It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setti=
ng B
as specified in 5.2.2.

[HC]: We have added some texts to state this.

It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to =
the
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be expli=
cit
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not
understand yet.

[HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.

Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noti=
ng
that.

[HC]: We have added some texts about this.


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Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13<br>
Reviewer: Robert Sparks<br>
Review Date: 2020-06-09<br>
IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12<br>
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Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but =
with<br>
issues to consider before progressing<br>
<br>
Minor Issues:<br>
<br>
Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying th=
e<br>
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or a=
t<br>
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path<br=
>
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?</div>
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<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have made it clear in the documen=
t through revising the texts.
<br>
</span>
<div>When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled <=
br>
</div>
<div>intervals of the LSP is computed once. <br>
</div>
<div>If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals, <br>
</div>
<div>the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and<br>
</div>
<div>the LSP will not be set up at all.&nbsp;</div>
<br>
Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is=
 the<br>
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being n=
o<br>
scheduled LSPs in effect?</div>
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</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have added the texts explicitly s=
tating that
<br>
</span>
<div>the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new <br>
</div>
<span>requirements cannot be set.</span><br>
<br>
Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have removed TCP. <br>
<br>
You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and=
<br>
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sur=
e<br>
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two<br>
implementers compute the consequences the same way.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to say that only =
one of them is used.<br>
<br>
Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative t=
ime<br>
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion<br>
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems=
<br>
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.</div>
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</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: You are right. The relative time is =
in seconds.
<br>
</span>
<div>We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about <br>
</div>
<span>synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.<=
/span><br>
<br>
Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used?=
 Is<br>
this true for both R=3D1 and R=3D0? For R=3D1, a start time value of 1 vs a=
 start<br>
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmis=
sion<br>
or processing delay).<br>
<br>
<span>[HC]: When R=3D1, Start-Time=3D0 means right now. <br>
</span>
<div>Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.=
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<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">And you =
don't have the same problem (or at least a race condition) for R=3D1, Start=
-Time=3D1?</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">(And per=
haps other small values of Start-Time?). This isn't a big deal, but it look=
s like a rough</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">edge, an=
d I want to make sure it's been thought through.<br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">[HC]: We=
 have added a note to consider transmission delay when R=3D1 and Start-Time=
 is small.</font></p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div class=3D"x_BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t">
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">
<div></div>
<div>For R=3D0, Start-Time=3D0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:=
00 UTC).<br>
</div>
<span>So for both R=3D1 and R=3D0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-T=
ime.</span><br>
<br>
In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explici=
t<br>
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetition=
s or<br>
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the ne=
xt<br>
repetition. I think you mean the former.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: It is the interval between the end-t=
ime of one repetition and<br>
</span>
<div>the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to <br>
</div>
<span>state this explicitly.</span><br>
</div>
</span></font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">That sur=
prises me. All the other values are start-start and not end-start.</font></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">With REP=
EAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same time every day.</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">Suppose =
you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had to express that with REPEAT-EVERY-=
TIME-LENGTH.<br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">If it we=
re start-start, you could set the interval to 86400 (as you compute in 9.1)=
 and be done.</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">With it =
being end-start you have to calculate the value by subtracting the Duration=
 field value from</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">86400. <=
br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">I think =
that's likely to surprise implementors trying to achieve something like &qu=
ot;every other day&quot;.<br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">[HC]: It=
 is the time from the start of one repetition to the start of the next repe=
tition.&nbsp;</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">We have =
updated the document in version 15 (uploaded) accordingly.</font></p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div class=3D"x_BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t">
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP p=
eers<br>
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one=
. I<br>
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.<br>
<br>
<span>[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.<br>
</span><span></span><br>
Nits:<br>
<br>
Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest=
<br>
trying to break it into more than one sentence.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
[HC]: We have split and rephrased it.<br>
<br>
Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please<br>
simplify.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have rephrased it.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
The document uses both &quot;database&quot; and &quot;data base&quot;. Plea=
se pick one.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have changed &quot;data base&quot; to d=
atabase.<br>
<br>
Top of page 7: &quot;In case of former&quot; does not parse. Please clarify=
.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have rephrased it.<br>
<br>
Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it=
 is<br>
missing more than articles.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have revised it.<br>
<br>
Section 4.3 at &quot;In both modes&quot;: It's not clear what &quot;modes&q=
uot; means here.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have added some details.<br>
<br>
It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setti=
ng B<br>
as specified in 5.2.2.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to state this.<br=
>
<br>
It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to =
the<br>
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be expli=
cit<br>
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not=
<br>
understand yet.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.<br>
<br>
Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noti=
ng<br>
that.<br>
<span><br>
</span><span>[HC]: We have added some texts about this.</span><br>
<br>
</div>
</span></font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
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Hi, Dhruv:

I support the adoption of this draft.

One comment for the current document, would like to see the author give =
some
explanations or add some clarifications for them:

Will it be more accurate to change draft name to include some key words =
as
"Policy Association"?=20
  For none association type of SR-MPLS Policy via PCEP, is RFC8664
sufficient?=20
  For none association type of SRv6 via PCEP, there is also another WG =
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https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-04
  As mentioned in the document, although the color/endpoint is not =
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in the above documents, but these enhancements is not the main part of =
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draft?


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Hi Aijun,

Just based on the new path setup type, the existing PCEP messages and
procedures can be used for the SR-MPLS and SRv6 paths (independent of
any SR policy information). That is described in RFC 8664 and
draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6. Some of the work in PCE WG
predates the SR policy framework. To use the features of SR policy,
one would need to use the mechanism described in this I-D.

>   As mentioned in the document, although the color/endpoint is not included
> in the above documents, but these enhancements is not the main part of this
> draft?

Could you elaborate, what is the concern?

Thanks!
Dhruv


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On 6/11/20 9:12 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:
>
> Thanks! Some initial replies inline (I haven't looked at the updated 
> draft yet, but will do so soon):
>
I've looked at the diffs between -13 and -15 and my comments have been 
addressed except for one point.


         Only one of them (i.e., elastic range and grace periods) is 
used for an LSP.


Isn't strong enough. I think you need normative language here.


I suggest

     A TLV can configure a non-zero grace period or elastic bound, but 
it MUST NOT provide both.

> On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>     Thank you very much for your time and valuable comments.
>>
>>     My answers/explanations are inline below with prefix [HC].
>>
>>     Your comments have been addressed in the updated document
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling/
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Huaimo
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Robert Sparks via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
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>> *Subject:* Genart last call review of 
>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13
>> Reviewer: Robert Sparks
>> Review result: Ready with Issues
>>
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>> Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13
>> Reviewer: Robert Sparks
>> Review Date: 2020-06-09
>> IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12
>> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
>>
>> Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard 
>> RFC, but with
>> issues to consider before progressing
>>
>> Minor Issues:
>>
>> Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path 
>> satisfying the
>> constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP 
>> arrives, or at
>> each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path
>> solution for only one of the multiple intervals?
>>
>> [HC]: We have made it clear in the document through revising the texts.
>> When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled
>> intervals of the LSP is computed once.
>> If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals,
>> the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and
>> the LSP will not be set up at all.
>>
>> Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be 
>> set, is the
>> previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there 
>> being no
>> scheduled LSPs in effect?
>>
>> [HC]: We have added the texts explicitly stating that
>> the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new
>> requirements cannot be set.
>>
>> Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?
>>
>> [HC]: We have removed TCP.
>>
>> You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace 
>> periods and
>> elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm 
>> not sure
>> what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two
>> implementers compute the consequences the same way.
>>
>> [HC]: We have added some texts to say that only one of them is used.
>>
>> Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that 
>> relative time
>> is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion
>> somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential 
>> problems
>> with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.
>>
>> [HC]: You are right. The relative time is in seconds.
>> We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about
>> synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.
>>
>> Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be 
>> used? Is
>> this true for both R=1 and R=0? For R=1, a start time value of 1 vs a 
>> start
>> time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of 
>> transmission
>> or processing delay).
>>
>> [HC]: When R=1, Start-Time=0 means right now.
>> Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.
>
> And you don't have the same problem (or at least a race condition) for 
> R=1, Start-Time=1?
>
> (And perhaps other small values of Start-Time?). This isn't a big 
> deal, but it looks like a rough
>
> edge, and I want to make sure it's been thought through.
>
>> For R=0, Start-Time=0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:00 
>> UTC).
>> So for both R=1 and R=0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-Time.
>>
>> In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be 
>> explicit
>> about whether this is the interval between the start time of two 
>> repetitions or
>> the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of 
>> the next
>> repetition. I think you mean the former.
>>
>> [HC]: It is the interval between the end-time of one repetition and
>> the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to
>> state this explicitly.
>
> That surprises me. All the other values are start-start and not end-start.
>
> With REPEAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same time every day.
>
> Suppose you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had to express that with 
> REPEAT-EVERY-TIME-LENGTH.
>
> If it were start-start, you could set the interval to 86400 (as you 
> compute in 9.1) and be done.
>
> With it being end-start you have to calculate the value by subtracting 
> the Duration field value from
>
> 86400.
>
> I think that's likely to surprise implementors trying to achieve 
> something like "every other day".
>
>
>>
>> At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both 
>> PCEP peers
>> have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please 
>> choose one. I
>> think you want both places to say MUST NOT.
>>
>> [HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.
>>
>> Nits:
>>
>> Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I 
>> suggest
>> trying to break it into more than one sentence.
>>
>> [HC]: We have split and rephrased it.
>>
>> Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please
>> simplify.
>>
>> [HC]: We have rephrased it.
>>
>> The document uses both "database" and "data base". Please pick one.
>>
>> [HC]: We have changed "data base" to database.
>>
>> Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse. Please clarify.
>>
>> [HC]: We have rephrased it.
>>
>> Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I 
>> think it is
>> missing more than articles.
>>
>> [HC]: We have revised it.
>>
>> Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what "modes" means here.
>>
>> [HC]: We have added some details.
>>
>> It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires 
>> setting B
>> as specified in 5.2.2.
>>
>> [HC]: We have added some texts to state this.
>>
>> It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point 
>> forward to the
>> registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be 
>> explicit
>> about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it 
>> does not
>> understand yet.
>>
>> [HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.
>>
>> Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth 
>> explicitly noting
>> that.
>>
>> [HC]: We have added some texts about this.
>>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/20 9:12 AM, Robert Sparks
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>Thanks! Some initial replies inline (I haven't looked at the
        updated draft yet, but will do so soon):<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I've looked at the diffs between -13 and -15 and my comments have
      been addressed except for one point.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>        Only one of them (i.e., elastic range and grace periods)
      is used for an LSP.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Isn't strong enough. I think you need normative language here.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>I suggest</p>
    <p>    A TLV can configure a non-zero grace period or elastic bound,
      but it MUST NOT provide both.<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:33e569da-059e-b250-78ca-ba2bd639ddeb@nostrum.com">
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen
        wrote:<br>
      </div>
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        <div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
          font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">     Thank you very
          much for your time and valuable comments.</div>
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        <div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
          font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">     Your comments have
          been addressed in the updated document </div>
        <div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
          font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">  <a
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          <div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
            font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Best Regards,</div>
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          <div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2"><span
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                <div class="PlainText">Reviewer: Robert Sparks<br>
                  Review result: Ready with Issues<br>
                  <br>
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                  Document:
                  draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13<br>
                  Reviewer: Robert Sparks<br>
                  Review Date: 2020-06-09<br>
                  IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12<br>
                  IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat<br>
                  <br>
                  Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a
                  Proposed Standard RFC, but with<br>
                  issues to consider before progressing<br>
                  <br>
                  Minor Issues:<br>
                  <br>
                  Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for
                  a path satisfying the<br>
                  constraint happens. Is this done once when the
                  periodical LSP arrives, or at<br>
                  each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens
                  if there is no path<br>
                  solution for only one of the multiple intervals?</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have made it clear
                    in the document through revising the texts. <br>
                  </span>
                  <div>When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths
                    for all the scheduled <br>
                  </div>
                  <div>intervals of the LSP is computed once. <br>
                  </div>
                  <div>If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the
                    intervals, <br>
                  </div>
                  <div>the constraints for the periodical LSP is not
                    satisfied and<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>the LSP will not be set up at all. </div>
                  <br>
                  Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the
                  path cannot be set, is the<br>
                  previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure
                  result in no there being no<br>
                  scheduled LSPs in effect?</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have added the
                    texts explicitly stating that <br>
                  </span>
                  <div>the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path
                    for new <br>
                  </div>
                  <span>requirements cannot be set.</span><br>
                  <br>
                  Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out
                  here?</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have removed TCP. <br>
                  <br>
                  You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have
                  both grace periods and<br>
                  elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that
                  to happen. I'm not sure<br>
                  what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that
                  you would have two<br>
                  implementers compute the consequences the same way.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to
                  say that only one of them is used.<br>
                  <br>
                  Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should
                  call out that relative time<br>
                  is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you
                  need a discussion<br>
                  somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks
                  and potential problems<br>
                  with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: You are right. The
                    relative time is in seconds. <br>
                  </span>
                  <div>We have explicitly stated this and had some
                    discussions about <br>
                  </div>
                  <span>synchronizing clocks and potential problems with
                    transmission delay.</span><br>
                  <br>
                  Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a
                  value of 0 not be used? Is<br>
                  this true for both R=1 and R=0? For R=1, a start time
                  value of 1 vs a start<br>
                  time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable
                  (because of transmission<br>
                  or processing delay).<br>
                  <br>
                  <span>[HC]: When R=1, Start-Time=0 means right now. <br>
                  </span>
                  <div>Because of transmission and processing delay,
                    this cannot be achieved.<br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </span></font></div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p><font size="2">And you don't have the same problem (or at least
          a race condition) for R=1, Start-Time=1?</font></p>
      <p><font size="2">(And perhaps other small values of Start-Time?).
          This isn't a big deal, but it looks like a rough</font></p>
      <p><font size="2">edge, and I want to make sure it's been thought
          through.<br>
        </font></p>
      <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:MN2PR13MB31173E62DE6EDEF9D8E92772F2800@MN2PR13MB3117.namprd13.prod.outlook.com">
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                style="font-size:11pt">
                <div class="PlainText">
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>For R=0, Start-Time=0 means the epoch (i.e., 1
                    January 1970 at 00:00 UTC).<br>
                  </div>
                  <span>So for both R=1 and R=0, a value of 0 must not
                    be used in Start-Time.</span><br>
                  <br>
                  In section 5.2.2 at the definition of
                  Repeat-time-length: Please be explicit<br>
                  about whether this is the interval between the start
                  time of two repetitions or<br>
                  the interval between the end-time of one repetition
                  and the start of the next<br>
                  repetition. I think you mean the former.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText"><span>[HC]: It is the interval
                    between the end-time of one repetition and<br>
                  </span>
                  <div>the start of the next repetition. We had added
                    some texts to <br>
                  </div>
                  <span>state this explicitly.</span><br>
                </div>
              </span></font></div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p><font size="2">That surprises me. All the other values are
          start-start and not end-start.</font></p>
      <p><font size="2">With REPEAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the
          same time every day.</font></p>
      <p><font size="2">Suppose you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had
          to express that with REPEAT-EVERY-TIME-LENGTH.<br>
        </font></p>
      <p><font size="2">If it were start-start, you could set the
          interval to 86400 (as you compute in 9.1) and be done.</font></p>
      <p><font size="2">With it being end-start you have to calculate
          the value by subtracting the Duration field value from</font></p>
      <p><font size="2">86400. <br>
        </font></p>
      <p><font size="2">I think that's likely to surprise implementors
          trying to achieve something like "every other day".<br>
        </font></p>
      <p><font size="2"><br>
        </font></p>
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                <div class="PlainText"> <br>
                  At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be
                  included unless both PCEP peers<br>
                  have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST
                  NOT. Please choose one. I<br>
                  think you want both places to say MUST NOT.<br>
                  <br>
                  <span>[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.<br>
                  </span><span></span><br>
                  Nits:<br>
                  <br>
                  Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is
                  hard to read. I suggest<br>
                  trying to break it into more than one sentence.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                  [HC]: We have split and rephrased it.<br>
                  <br>
                  Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is
                  hard to read. Please<br>
                  simplify.<br>
                  <br>
                  [HC]: We have rephrased it.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                  The document uses both "database" and "data base".
                  Please pick one.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have changed "data base"
                  to database.<br>
                  <br>
                  Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse.
                  Please clarify.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have rephrased it.<br>
                  <br>
                  Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does
                  not parse. I think it is<br>
                  missing more than articles.<br>
                  <br>
                  [HC]: We have revised it.<br>
                  <br>
                  Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what
                  "modes" means here.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have added some details.<br>
                  <br>
                  It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that
                  setting PD requires setting B<br>
                  as specified in 5.2.2.</div>
                <div class="PlainText"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to
                  state this.<br>
                  <br>
                  It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt:
                  to point forward to the<br>
                  registry you are creating for its values. It would
                  also be good to be explicit<br>
                  about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a
                  value here it does not<br>
                  understand yet.<br>
                  <br>
                  [HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.<br>
                  <br>
                  Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's
                  worth explicitly noting<br>
                  that.<br>
                  <span><br>
                  </span><span>[HC]: We have added some texts about
                    this.</span><br>
                  <br>
                </div>
              </span></font></div>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
        Authors         : Huaimo Chen
                          Yan Zhuang
                          Qin Wu
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-16.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2020-06-12

Abstract:
   This document defines a set of extensions needed to the stateful Path
   Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP), so as to
   enable Labeled Switched Path (LSP) scheduling for path computation
   and LSP setup/deletion based on the actual network resource usage and
   the duration of a traffic service in a centralized network
   environment as stated in RFC 8413.


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Hi Robert,

    Thank you very much for your suggestion.
    We have updated the document (version 16 uploaded) according to your su=
ggestion.

Best Regards,
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On 6/11/20 9:12 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:

Thanks! Some initial replies inline (I haven't looked at the updated draft =
yet, but will do so soon):

I've looked at the diffs between -13 and -15 and my comments have been addr=
essed except for one point.


        Only one of them (i.e., elastic range and grace periods) is used fo=
r an LSP.


Isn't strong enough. I think you need normative language here.


I suggest

    A TLV can configure a non-zero grace period or elastic bound, but it MU=
ST NOT provide both.

On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote:
Hi Robert,

    Thank you very much for your time and valuable comments.

    My answers/explanations are inline below with prefix [HC].

    Your comments have been addressed in the updated document
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Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13
Reviewer: Robert Sparks
Review Date: 2020-06-09
IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-12
IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat

Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but =
with
issues to consider before progressing

Minor Issues:

Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying th=
e
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or a=
t
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?

[HC]: We have made it clear in the document through revising the texts.
When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled
intervals of the LSP is computed once.
If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals,
the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and
the LSP will not be set up at all.

Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is=
 the
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being n=
o
scheduled LSPs in effect?

[HC]: We have added the texts explicitly stating that
the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new
requirements cannot be set.

Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?

[HC]: We have removed TCP.

You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sur=
e
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two
implementers compute the consequences the same way.

[HC]: We have added some texts to say that only one of them is used.

Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative t=
ime
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.

[HC]: You are right. The relative time is in seconds.
We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about
synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.

Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used?=
 Is
this true for both R=3D1 and R=3D0? For R=3D1, a start time value of 1 vs a=
 start
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmis=
sion
or processing delay).

[HC]: When R=3D1, Start-Time=3D0 means right now.
Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.

And you don't have the same problem (or at least a race condition) for R=3D=
1, Start-Time=3D1?

(And perhaps other small values of Start-Time?). This isn't a big deal, but=
 it looks like a rough

edge, and I want to make sure it's been thought through.

For R=3D0, Start-Time=3D0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:00 UT=
C).
So for both R=3D1 and R=3D0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-Time.

In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explici=
t
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetition=
s or
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the ne=
xt
repetition. I think you mean the former.

[HC]: It is the interval between the end-time of one repetition and
the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to
state this explicitly.

That surprises me. All the other values are start-start and not end-start.

With REPEAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same time every day.

Suppose you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had to express that with REPEA=
T-EVERY-TIME-LENGTH.

If it were start-start, you could set the interval to 86400 (as you compute=
 in 9.1) and be done.

With it being end-start you have to calculate the value by subtracting the =
Duration field value from

86400.

I think that's likely to surprise implementors trying to achieve something =
like "every other day".


At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP p=
eers
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one=
. I
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.

[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.

Nits:

Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest
trying to break it into more than one sentence.

[HC]: We have split and rephrased it.

Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please
simplify.

[HC]: We have rephrased it.

The document uses both "database" and "data base". Please pick one.

[HC]: We have changed "data base" to database.

Top of page 7: "In case of former" does not parse. Please clarify.

[HC]: We have rephrased it.

Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it=
 is
missing more than articles.

[HC]: We have revised it.

Section 4.3 at "In both modes": It's not clear what "modes" means here.

[HC]: We have added some details.

It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setti=
ng B
as specified in 5.2.2.

[HC]: We have added some texts to state this.

It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to =
the
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be expli=
cit
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not
understand yet.

[HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.

Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noti=
ng
that.

[HC]: We have added some texts about this.




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<b>Cc:</b> last-call@ietf.org &lt;last-call@ietf.org&gt;; draft-ietf-pce-st=
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<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/20 9:12 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:<b=
r>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Thanks! Some initial repl=
ies inline (I haven't looked at the updated draft yet, but will do so soon)=
:<br>
</p>
</blockquote>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I've looked at the diffs =
between -13 and -15 and my comments have been addressed except for one poin=
t.</p>
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&nbsp;&nbsp; Only one of them (i.e., elastic range and grace periods) is us=
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<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
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<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Isn't strong enough. I th=
ink you need normative language here.</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
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<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I suggest</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A TLV =
can configure a non-zero grace period or elastic bound, but it MUST NOT pro=
vide both.<br>
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<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/20 7:35 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote:<br>
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Hi Robert,</div>
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Document: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-13<br>
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Summary: Essentially ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC, but =
with<br>
issues to consider before progressing<br>
<br>
Minor Issues:<br>
<br>
Section 4.2.2: It's not clear when the computation for a path satisfying th=
e<br>
constraint happens. Is this done once when the periodical LSP arrives, or a=
t<br>
each scheduled interval? If the former, what happens if there is no path<br=
>
solution for only one of the multiple intervals?</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
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<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have made it clear in the documen=
t through revising the texts.
<br>
</span>
<div>When a periodical LSP is configured, the paths for all the scheduled <=
br>
</div>
<div>intervals of the LSP is computed once. <br>
</div>
<div>If there is no path for some (e.g., one) of the intervals, <br>
</div>
<div>the constraints for the periodical LSP is not satisfied and<br>
</div>
<div>the LSP will not be set up at all.&nbsp;</div>
<br>
Section 4.4, second paragraph, last sentence: If the path cannot be set, is=
 the<br>
previous LSP left in effect? Or does the failure result in no there being n=
o<br>
scheduled LSPs in effect?</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: We have added the texts explicitly s=
tating that
<br>
</span>
<div>the previous LSP will not be impacted if the path for new <br>
</div>
<span>requirements cannot be set.</span><br>
<br>
Section 5.1 first paragraph: Why is TCP called out here?</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have removed TCP. <br>
<br>
You should be explicit about whether it's ok to have both grace periods and=
<br>
elastic bounds at the same time. The TLV allows that to happen. I'm not sur=
e<br>
what it would mean, and I suspect it's unlikely that you would have two<br>
implementers compute the consequences the same way.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to say that only =
one of them is used.<br>
<br>
Section 5.2.1, definition of the R bit: You should call out that relative t=
ime<br>
is in seconds (I think?) when the R bit is 1, and you need a discussion<br>
somewhere about the necessity of synchronized clocks and potential problems=
<br>
with transmission delay when the R bit is 1.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: You are right. The relative time is =
in seconds.
<br>
</span>
<div>We have explicitly stated this and had some discussions about <br>
</div>
<span>synchronizing clocks and potential problems with transmission delay.<=
/span><br>
<br>
Section 5.2.1, definition of Start-Time: Why must a value of 0 not be used?=
 Is<br>
this true for both R=3D1 and R=3D0? For R=3D1, a start time value of 1 vs a=
 start<br>
time value of 0 may, in practice, be indistinguishable (because of transmis=
sion<br>
or processing delay).<br>
<br>
<span>[HC]: When R=3D1, Start-Time=3D0 means right now. <br>
</span>
<div>Because of transmission and processing delay, this cannot be achieved.=
<br>
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<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">And you =
don't have the same problem (or at least a race condition) for R=3D1, Start=
-Time=3D1?</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">(And per=
haps other small values of Start-Time?). This isn't a big deal, but it look=
s like a rough</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">edge, an=
d I want to make sure it's been thought through.<br>
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<div>For R=3D0, Start-Time=3D0 means the epoch (i.e., 1 January 1970 at 00:=
00 UTC).<br>
</div>
<span>So for both R=3D1 and R=3D0, a value of 0 must not be used in Start-T=
ime.</span><br>
<br>
In section 5.2.2 at the definition of Repeat-time-length: Please be explici=
t<br>
about whether this is the interval between the start time of two repetition=
s or<br>
the interval between the end-time of one repetition and the start of the ne=
xt<br>
repetition. I think you mean the former.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><span>[HC]: It is the interval between the end-t=
ime of one repetition and<br>
</span>
<div>the start of the next repetition. We had added some texts to <br>
</div>
<span>state this explicitly.</span><br>
</div>
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</blockquote>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">That sur=
prises me. All the other values are start-start and not end-start.</font></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">With REP=
EAT-EVERY-DAY, you're aiming for the same time every day.</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">Suppose =
you didn't have REPEAT-EVERY-DAY and had to express that with REPEAT-EVERY-=
TIME-LENGTH.<br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">If it we=
re start-start, you could set the interval to 86400 (as you compute in 9.1)=
 and be done.</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">With it =
being end-start you have to calculate the value by subtracting the Duration=
 field value from</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">86400. <=
br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2">I think =
that's likely to surprise implementors trying to achieve something like &qu=
ot;every other day&quot;.<br>
</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font size=3D"2"><br>
</font></p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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t">
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
At section 5.2.1 you say this TLV SHOULD NOT be included unless both PCEP p=
eers<br>
have set the B bit. But in section 6.6, you say MUST NOT. Please choose one=
. I<br>
think you want both places to say MUST NOT.<br>
<br>
<span>[HC]: We have changed SHOULD NOT to MUST NOT.<br>
</span><span></span><br>
Nits:<br>
<br>
Introduction, paragraph 3, second sentence: This is hard to read. I suggest=
<br>
trying to break it into more than one sentence.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
[HC]: We have split and rephrased it.<br>
<br>
Introduction, paragraph 4, third sentence: This is hard to read. Please<br>
simplify.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have rephrased it.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
The document uses both &quot;database&quot; and &quot;data base&quot;. Plea=
se pick one.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have changed &quot;data base&quot; to d=
atabase.<br>
<br>
Top of page 7: &quot;In case of former&quot; does not parse. Please clarify=
.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have rephrased it.<br>
<br>
Section 4.2.2, second paragraph, first sentence: Does not parse. I think it=
 is<br>
missing more than articles.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have revised it.<br>
<br>
Section 4.3 at &quot;In both modes&quot;: It's not clear what &quot;modes&q=
uot; means here.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have added some details.<br>
<br>
It would be worth calling out in section 5.1 that setting PD requires setti=
ng B<br>
as specified in 5.2.2.</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_PlainText">[HC]: We have added some texts to state this.<br=
>
<br>
It would be helpful in 5.2.2 at the definition of Opt: to point forward to =
the<br>
registry you are creating for its values. It would also be good to be expli=
cit<br>
about what to do if an element receives a TLV with a value here it does not=
<br>
understand yet.<br>
<br>
[HC]: We have added some descriptions about these.<br>
<br>
Section 9.1 ignores leap-years and leap-seconds. It's worth explicitly noti=
ng<br>
that.<br>
<span><br>
</span><span>[HC]: We have added some texts about this.</span><br>
<br>
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        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
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                          Daniele Ceccarelli
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	Date            : 2020-06-16

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        Title           : Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extension for LSP Diversity Constraint Signaling
        Authors         : Stephane Litkowski
                          Siva Sivabalan
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                          Mahendra Singh Negi
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP) extension for associating Policies and Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
        Authors         : Stephane Litkowski
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Jonathan Hardwick
                          Mahendra Singh Negi
                          Cheng Li
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-association-policy-10.txt
	Pages           : 15
	Date            : 2020-06-21

Abstract:
   This document introduces a simple mechanism to associate policies to
   a group of Label Switched Paths (LSPs) via an extension to the Path
   Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP).


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Procedures and Protocol Extensions for Using PCE as a Central Controller (PCECC) of LSPs
        Authors         : Quintin Zhao
                          Zhenbin Li
                          Mahendra Singh Negi
                          Shuping Peng
                          Chao Zhou
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-05.txt
	Pages           : 34
	Date            : 2020-06-21

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a core component of Software-
   Defined Networking (SDN) systems.  It can compute optimal paths for
   traffic across a network and can also update the paths to reflect
   changes in the network or traffic demands.

   PCE was developed to derive paths for MPLS Label Switched Paths
   (LSPs), which are supplied to the head end of the LSP using the Path
   Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP).  But SDN has a
   broader applicability than signaled (G)MPLS traffic-engineered (TE)
   networks, and the PCE may be used to determine paths in a range of
   use cases.  PCEP has been proposed as a control protocol for use in
   these environments to allow the PCE to be fully enabled as a central
   controller.

   A PCE-based central controller (PCECC) can simplify the processing of
   a distributed control plane by blending it with elements of SDN and
   without necessarily completely replacing it.  Thus, the LSP can be
   calculated/setup/initiated and the label forwarding entries can also
   be downloaded through a centralized PCE server to each network
   devices along the path while leveraging the existing PCE technologies
   as much as possible.

   This document specifies the procedures and PCEP protocol extensions
   for using the PCE as the central controller.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing leveraging the IPv6 data plane
        Authors         : Mahendra Singh Negi
                          Cheng Li
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Prejeeth Kaladharan
                          Yongqing Zhu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6-05.txt
	Pages           : 22
	Date            : 2020-06-21

Abstract:
   The Source Packet Routing in Networking (SPRING) architecture
   describes how Segment Routing (SR) can be used to steer packets
   through an IPv6 or MPLS network using the source routing paradigm.
   SR enables any head-end node to select any path without relying on a
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   It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link- State
   IGPs.  A Segment Routed Path can be derived from a variety of
   mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest Path Tree (SPT), explicit
   configuration, or a Path Computation Element (PCE).

   Since SR can be applied to both MPLS and IPv6 forwarding plane, a PCE
   should be able to compute SR-Path for both MPLS and IPv6 forwarding
   plane.  This document describes the extensions required for SR
   support for IPv6 data plane in Path Computation Element communication
   Protocol (PCEP).  The PCEP extension and mechanism to support SR-MPLS
   is described in RFC 8664.  This document extends it to support SRv6
   (SR over IPv6).



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Hi WG, Chairs,

I support WG adoption of this draft.

Thanks!=20

Best regards,
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Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-=
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Yes, Support.
The work of PCEP extension to support association among candidate paths of =
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Carrying Binding Label/Segment-ID in PCE-based Networks.
        Authors         : Clarence Filsfils
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Jonathan Hardwick
                          Stefano Previdi
                          Cheng Li
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-03.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2020-06-22

Abstract:
   In order to provide greater scalability, network opacity, and service
   independence, Segment Routing (SR) utilizes a Binding Segment
   Identifier (BSID).  It is possible to associate a BSID to RSVP-TE
   signaled Traffic Engineering Label Switching Path or binding Segment-
   ID (SID) to SR Traffic Engineering path.  Such a binding label/SID
   can be used by an upstream node for steering traffic into the
   appropriate TE path to enforce SR policies.  This document proposes
   an approach for reporting binding label/SID to Path Computation
   Element (PCE) for supporting PCE-based Traffic Engineering policies.



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</span></div><div><span style=3D"line-height: 1.5;">Cong Li</span></div><b=
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Support as a co-author.

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Subject: [Pce] WG adoption poll for
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Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for
draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/06/

Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
- Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are you
willing to work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to the list.

This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.

Thanks!
Dhruv & Julien

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<div dir="ltr">Support as a co-author.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Siva<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br>
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Hi WG,<br>
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This email begins the WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.<br>
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This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.<br>
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Support the adoption of this document -- this is a critical piece for
realizing controller driven SR policies.

Regards,
-Pavan

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:46 AM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi WG,
>
> This email begins the WG adoption poll for
> draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/06/
>
> Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
> - Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are
> you willing to work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to
> the list.
>
> This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.
>
> Thanks!
> Dhruv & Julien
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itical piece for realizing controller driven SR policies.<br></div><div><br=
></div><div>Regards,</div><div>-Pavan<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:46 =
AM Dhruv Dhody &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com">dhruv.ietf@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
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ex">Hi WG,<br>
<br>
This email begins the WG adoption poll for<br>
draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing=
-policy-cp/06/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/06/</a><br>
<br>
Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons<br>
- Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are<br>
you willing to work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to<br>
the list.<br>
<br>
This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Dhruv &amp; Julien<br>
<br>
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Hi,

I support the adoption of this document.

thanks.
s.


> On Jun 7, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi WG,
>=20
> This email begins the WG adoption poll for
> draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.
>=20
> =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp=
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> Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
> - Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are
> you willing to work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to
> the list.
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> This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.
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> Dhruv & Julien
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From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
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Yes/support

Cheers,
Jeff

>
> Hi WG,
>
> This email begins the WG adoption poll for
> draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-06.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/06/
>
> Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
> - Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are
> you willing to work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to
> the list.
>
> This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.
>
> Thanks!
> Dhruv & Julien
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policy-cp-06.</blockquote>
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the PCE WG=3F Please state your reasons</blockquote>
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adding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;=22>you willing to work on this draf=
t=3F Review comments should be posted to</blockquote>
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adding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;=22>the list.</blockquote>
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Hi All,

I support the adoption of this draft. It incorporates the key CP signalling=
 constructs for PCEP in line with draft-spring-segment-routing-policy that =
are required for signalling of multiple CPs for an SR Policy.

Thanks,
Ketan =20

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Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-=
policy-cp-06.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/=
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Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
- Why / Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are you w=
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This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.

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The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to
consider the following document: - 'PCEP Extension for Flow Specification'
  <draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-09.txt> as Proposed Standard

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Abstract


   The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a functional component capable
   of selecting paths through a traffic engineering network.  These
   paths may be supplied in response to requests for computation, or may
   be unsolicited instructions issued by the PCE to network elements.
   Both approaches use the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) to convey
   the details of the computed path.

   Traffic flows may be categorized and described using "Flow
   Specifications".  RFC XXXX defines the Flow Specification and
   describes how Flow Specification Components are used to describe
   traffic flows.  RFC XXXX also defines how Flow Specifications may be
   distributed in BGP to allow specific traffic flows to be associated
   with routes.

   This document specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to support
   dissemination of Flow Specifications.  This allows a PCE to indicate
   what traffic should be placed on each path that it is aware of.

   RFC Editor Note: Please replace XXXX in the Abstract with the RFC
   number assigned to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis when it is published.
   Please remove this note.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec/


The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3840/







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Hi,=20

I support the adoption of this document.=20

Best regards,
Jie

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Path Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP) extension for associating Policies and Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
        Authors         : Stephane Litkowski
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Jonathan Hardwick
                          Mahendra Singh Negi
                          Cheng Li
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-association-policy-11.txt
	Pages           : 15
	Date            : 2020-06-22

Abstract:
   This document introduces a simple mechanism to associate policies to
   a group of Label Switched Paths (LSPs) via an extension to the Path
   Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP).


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Hi WG,

The PCE WG would be meeting during the IETF 108 [1] week. If you need
some agenda time to progress some work, please send a slot request
directly to the chairs/secretary <pce-chairs@ietf.org> by Wednesday
8th July including:

- the draft(s) you want to discuss,
- the expected presenter name,
- the requested duration, including question time as part of the slot,
- the reason why you want to be on the agenda; What do you want to
achieve? Why is a presentation necessary to achieve it?

Please note - Asking for a slot does not mean you will get one. We
will be prioritizing moving WG work first as well as drafts that were
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[1] https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/108/
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/important-dates/

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Hi WG,

Thanks to all who responded to the adoption poll. We have support to
adopt this as a WG item. Please continue to provide your comments as
the document moves through the WG process.

Authors, please post a -00 version
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change, and be sure to set the "replaces" option during submission.

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> Hi WG,
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> This email begins the WG adoption poll for
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barth-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/06/
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> Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons
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> you willing to work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to
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> This adoption poll will end on 22nd June 2020.
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> Thanks!
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP extension to support Segment Routing Policy Candidate Paths
        Authors         : Mike Koldychev
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Colby Barth
                          Shuping Peng
                          Hooman Bidgoli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-00.txt
	Pages           : 20
	Date            : 2020-06-24

Abstract:
   This document introduces a mechanism to specify a Segment Routing
   (SR) policy, as a collection of SR candidate paths.  An SR policy is
   identified by <headend, color, end-point> tuple.  An SR policy can
   contain one or more candidate paths where each candidate path is
   identified in PCEP via an PLSP-ID.  This document proposes extension
   to PCEP to support association among candidate paths of a given SR
   policy.  The mechanism proposed in this document is applicable to
   both MPLS and IPv6 data planes of SR.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element WG of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for LSP scheduling with stateful PCE
        Authors         : Huaimo Chen
                          Yan Zhuang
                          Qin Wu
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-18.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2020-06-28

Abstract:
   This document defines a set of extensions needed to the stateful Path
   Computation Element (PCE) communication Protocol (PCEP), so as to
   enable Labeled Switched Path (LSP) scheduling for path computation
   and LSP setup/deletion based on the actual network resource usage and
   the duration of a traffic service in a centralized network
   environment as stated in RFC 8413.


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