From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Dec 6 13:37:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A9C11E80A0; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:37:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6lpmufs3cioA; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8403C11E8083; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:37:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64 Message-ID: <20111206213730.4417.54038.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:37:30 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:37:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notific= ation Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) = Mode of Operation Author(s) : Anna Charny Georgios Karagiannis Michael Menth Tom Taylor Filename : draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2011-12-06 Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using two PCN marking states, not- marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Single Marking (SM) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07.txt From slblake@petri-meat.com Wed Dec 7 07:18:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E729F21F8B05 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R3YTKxq4E0OT for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EAF21F8B3C for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=petri-meat.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=wJg6QBuJ37lVJf3ZiwbmDWs3/6tjuG5VjATuaaV3lWv2eXKvqVQ4PaOAz7pQ25oqOof6ZrOTxkJ1DcOYiG3MH0c8ch179qJPsBr6teNqXP6VftrhaXRye0yeUpdssxcl; Received: from cpe-174-097-234-146.nc.res.rr.com ([174.97.234.146]) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYJG9-00069C-3g for pcn@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:18:13 -0500 From: Steven Blake To: pcn Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Subject: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:18:17 -0000 Howdy, Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments to the pcn list ASAP. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 Regards, // Steve From menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Thu Dec 8 04:39:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A35121F8A7E for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:39:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HELO_MISMATCH_DE=1.448] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s1SrVAclm+lF for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx3.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E59021F8A71 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19B152ED for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:39:11 +0100 (MET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Received: from mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hDpIFjT3KZET for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:39:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (zcs-bs.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.62]) by mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400F652D7 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:39:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from [134.2.11.131] (chaos.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.11.131]) by zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EC53145B8E for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:39:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EE0AFEE.5080308@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:39:10 +0100 From: Michael Menth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pcn@ietf.org References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> In-Reply-To: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:39:26 -0000 Hi, I just realized that our performance study of PCN-based admission control is not in the references of the document. It helps to understand the impact of the various parameters and the time it takes from emerging overload until flow blocking and contains various other performance aspects. The following sentence may be added at the end of Section 3.3.1 of both documents: A performance study of this admission control method is presented in [MeLe12]. 9.2. Informative References [MeLe12] M. Menth and F. Lehrieder: "Performance of PCN-Based Admission Control under Challenging Conditions", accepted for IEEE/ACM Transactions on Networking, 2012 (for early, preliminary access: http://atlas2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/menth/papers/Menth08-Sub-8.pdf) Best wishes, Michael Am 07.12.2011 16:18, schrieb Steven Blake: > Howdy, > > Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and > draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD > comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both > updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments > to the pcn list ASAP. > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 > > > Regards, > > // Steve > > _______________________________________________ > PCN mailing list > PCN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn -- Prof. Dr. habil. Michael Menth University of Tuebingen Faculty of Science Department of Computer Science Chair of Communication Networks Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany phone: (+49)-7071/29-70505 fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 mailto:menth@uni-tuebingen.de http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de From slblake@petri-meat.com Tue Dec 13 20:52:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A2B11E80B6 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:52:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0+DC8dhOSgZ5 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB34A11E8097 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:52:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=petri-meat.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=pkgQcPgooXA1PerlsNVOSyrVptV7jLVS+sXNhtxXVK1tSgMX7Y8BYTNIYLQ30OPzKw8c1cHv8S3GU1sKFgPOcpc48Vc44WhrlsTbXFIzm2czMCrUtcV8zhoVgG4rm2GB; Received: from cpe-174-097-234-146.nc.res.rr.com ([174.97.234.146]) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RagpM-0007Bw-JO for pcn@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:52:24 -0500 From: Steven Blake To: pcn Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:52:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 04:52:31 -0000 On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 10:18 -0500, Steven Blake wrote: > Howdy, > > Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and > draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD > comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both > updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments > to the pcn list ASAP. > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 Reminder - the WGLC closes on Friday. Silence is interpreted as disinterest. Regards, // Steve From Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de Wed Dec 14 01:16:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B63221F8B1D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:16:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id INaZr-Ep4+Dl for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail73.telekom.de (tcmail73.telekom.de [217.243.239.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988321F8B1C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from he113445.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.93.105]) by tcmail71.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 14 Dec 2011 10:13:28 +0100 Received: from HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([169.254.5.93]) by HE113445.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:22 +0100 From: To: , Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:13:21 +0100 Thread-Topic: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 Thread-Index: Acy6HDwak3Ed/dAlRY6BXlGkaAiRkgAIjHug Message-ID: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D0A6259E2F7@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> In-Reply-To: <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:16:18 -0000 Hi Tom, hi Steven, thanks to Tom for his ongoing enhancements of the document. You've done a good job, I think. The issue of reporting doesn't seem to be well addressed, I think. The signaling method is out of scope of sm-edge beahviour. Applying [I-D.tsvwg-rsvp-pcn] is optional. I'm in agreement with all that. I'd like section 3.1 to state that: Specification of a signaling protocol to report rates to the Decision Point is out of scope of this document. If the PCN-ingress-node is chosen as the Decision Point, [I-D.tsvwg-rsvp-pcn] specifies an appropriate signaling protocol. Regards, Ruediger Excerpts from the sm-edge-behaviour draft: Section 3.1 states: The PCN-egress-node collects the rates of not-marked and excess- traffic-marked PCN-traffic for each ingress-egress-aggregate and reports them to the Decision Point. For a detailed description, see Section 3.2 Section 3.2.2. Reporting the PCN Data Unless the report suppression option described in Section 3.2.3 is activated, the PCN-egress-node MUST report the latest values of NM- rate and ETM-rate to the Decision Point each time that it calculates them. Section 5.1.1. Selection of Deployment Options and Global Parameters The first set of decisions affects the operation of the network as a whole. To begin with, the operator needs to make basic design decisions such as whether the Decision Point is centralized or collocated with the PCN-ingress-nodes, and whether per-flow and aggregate resource signalling as described in [I-D.tsvwg-rsvp-pcn] is deployed in the network. -----Original Message----- From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve= n Blake Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:52 AM To: pcn Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-i= etf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 10:18 -0500, Steven Blake wrote: > Howdy, > > Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and > draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD > comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both > updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments > to the pcn list ASAP. > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 Reminder - the WGLC closes on Friday. Silence is interpreted as disinteres= t. Regards, // Steve _______________________________________________ PCN mailing list PCN@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn From karagian@cs.utwente.nl Wed Dec 14 03:09:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776EF21F8B10 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:09:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71CTzVWNbXGq for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXEDGE02.ad.utwente.nl (exedge02.ad.utwente.nl [130.89.5.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C847921F8B25 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXHUB01.ad.utwente.nl (130.89.4.228) by EXEDGE02.ad.utwente.nl (130.89.5.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:28 +0100 Received: from EXMBX04.ad.utwente.nl ([169.254.4.36]) by EXHUB01.ad.utwente.nl ([130.89.4.228]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:26 +0100 From: To: , Thread-Topic: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 Thread-Index: AQHMtPN/Nwze0zfUoUWZz2r9Nqof+JXava2AgAB5uQA= Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:09:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> In-Reply-To: <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.89.12.129] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:09:30 -0000 Hi Steve, Hi all, I am satisfied with the current versions of draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviou= r-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07! Tom thank you very much! Best regards, Georgios > -----Original Message----- > From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Steven Blake > Sent: woensdag 14 december 2011 5:52 > To: pcn > Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft= - > ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 >=20 > On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 10:18 -0500, Steven Blake wrote: >=20 > > Howdy, > > > > Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and > > draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD > > comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both > > updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments > > to the pcn list ASAP. > > > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 >=20 >=20 > Reminder - the WGLC closes on Friday. Silence is interpreted as disinter= est. >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > // Steve >=20 > _______________________________________________ > PCN mailing list > PCN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn From tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Wed Dec 14 07:44:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D7D21F8B6F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:44:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WeYkOsMcPgFs for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE0B21F8B66 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yhjj72 with SMTP id j72so1647720yhj.31 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:44:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bWntN419+agWT/b78/FoA084SlnSByc/XmfeosG8yd0=; b=jc+e7tKbetyCz0QMG9gzFb91sVv/Vux0rvG03oLJzay+1Q7KD0t6euyJ/u6FqGFmRd 8qBkVkNFhUwt960WkkV/FmJLtvktH8Gm6YoKzZHZwfnL6LXEqrvSGWrlzUlRnpjIt4J5 QFZExNIlprErBrQCwjlYkdM6sYoSfVDXQqL/Q= Received: by 10.236.175.198 with SMTP id z46mr12819404yhl.31.1323877453416; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.17] (bas4-ottawa10-1279675838.dsl.bell.ca. [76.70.77.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r68sm4298835yhm.18.2011.12.14.07.44.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:44:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE8C44B.9070701@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:44:11 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D0A6259E2F7@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> In-Reply-To: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D0A6259E2F7@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:44:15 -0000 Thanks. I'm willing to go with that. Please note my new E-mail address. The old one expires on Jan. 12. Come to think of it, I'd better include the update when I recycle the drafts. Tom Taylor tom.taylor.stds@bell.net On 14/12/2011 4:13 AM, Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de wrote: > Hi Tom, hi Steven, > > thanks to Tom for his ongoing enhancements of the document. You've done > a good job, I think. > > The issue of reporting doesn't seem to be well addressed, I think. The > signaling method is out of scope of sm-edge beahviour. Applying > [I-D.tsvwg-rsvp-pcn] is optional. I'm in agreement with all that. > I'd like section 3.1 to state that: > > Specification of a signaling protocol to report rates to the > Decision Point is out of scope of this document. If the > PCN-ingress-node is chosen as the Decision Point, [I-D.tsvwg-rsvp-pcn] > specifies an appropriate signaling protocol. > > Regards, > > Ruediger > > > Excerpts from the sm-edge-behaviour draft: > > Section 3.1 states: > > The PCN-egress-node collects the rates of not-marked and excess- > traffic-marked PCN-traffic for each ingress-egress-aggregate and > reports them to the Decision Point. For a detailed description, see > Section 3.2 > > > Section 3.2.2. Reporting the PCN Data > > Unless the report suppression option described in Section 3.2.3 is > activated, the PCN-egress-node MUST report the latest values of NM- > rate and ETM-rate to the Decision Point each time that it calculates > them. > > Section 5.1.1. Selection of Deployment Options and Global Parameters > > The first set of decisions affects the operation of the network as a > whole. To begin with, the operator needs to make basic design > decisions such as whether the Decision Point is centralized or > collocated with the PCN-ingress-nodes, and whether per-flow and > aggregate resource signalling as described in [I-D.tsvwg-rsvp-pcn] is > deployed in the network. > ... From slblake@petri-meat.com Sat Dec 17 19:32:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77C611E808C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:32:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8b1YmV6sZNQv for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8682C11E8089 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:32:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=petri-meat.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=KhIA6pq9XdE2YxFSr0Gxr3PsFAfm8K3nGOerYBF3WjUqluELE/WqQOQhQX6wGY/VYu3YBWuQHD5MOs6edojE52JutfG78kuFbM3o9WtKGU4V4DFidSZAEflTfJufIk+l; Received: from cpe-174-097-234-146.nc.res.rr.com ([174.97.234.146]) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rc7U2-0001pT-He; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:32:18 -0500 From: Steven Blake To: Tom Taylor Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:32:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4EE8C44B.9070701@gmail.com> References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D0A6259E2F7@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> <4EE8C44B.9070701@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1324179139.3424.1.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:32:24 -0000 On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 10:44 -0500, Tom Taylor wrote: > Thanks. I'm willing to go with that. > > Please note my new E-mail address. The old one expires on Jan. 12. Come > to think of it, I'd better include the update when I recycle the drafts. > > Tom Taylor > tom.taylor.stds@bell.net Hi Tom, If you are willing to accept Michael's comment as well, then I think that would address all comments, and we can resubmit. Regards, // Steve From tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Sun Dec 18 10:21:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03F121F84B7 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c12aZpSns2+U for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABB321F84B5 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so4098206ggn.31 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gcvBWuTKIsv3A0f38staPOZiTVbs/tN2DaK1ggD11z8=; b=MfydqNEAiLJ54/Waw5OuE2M00HaFoctmF8TN9BOczdiG9CW9A3eJT6MIW23ZOHewId 3X2tZ+4fI36edYxiDzMJ0G97+dBQFPaQbIvZTRKMDArQb7D4GrFwBScWXxMQR7uyY+zT HtwRvsZPHZSdB1ah0YGTTt4I2JA+juRCF7K1w= Received: by 10.101.57.12 with SMTP id j12mr7256322ank.9.1324232508833; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:21:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.17] (bas4-ottawa10-1279675838.dsl.bell.ca. [76.70.77.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q52sm25323139yhh.3.2011.12.18.10.21.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:21:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEE2F39.1010200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:21:45 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Blake References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <1323838345.24808.7.camel@tachyon> <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D0A6259E2F7@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> <4EE8C44B.9070701@gmail.com> <1324179139.3424.1.camel@tachyon> In-Reply-To: <1324179139.3424.1.camel@tachyon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:21:50 -0000 Yes, that's fine. BTW, my new E-mail is tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Big oops on the previous note. On 17/12/2011 10:32 PM, Steven Blake wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 10:44 -0500, Tom Taylor wrote: > >> Thanks. I'm willing to go with that. >> >> Please note my new E-mail address. The old one expires on Jan. 12. Come >> to think of it, I'd better include the update when I recycle the drafts. >> >> Tom Taylor >> tom.taylor.stds@bell.net > > Hi Tom, > > If you are willing to accept Michael's comment as well, then I think > that would address all comments, and we can resubmit. > > > Regards, > > // Steve > > From tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Sun Dec 18 10:47:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763C21F84A4 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:47:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jGN9zSQCWQ6k for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A01F21F84A3 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yhjj72 with SMTP id j72so4360013yhj.31 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:47:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4YMeMh3Jw5Ve8oqUSZL5xPIETQSdPAw0yRqPKYtruSA=; b=oNQX960nhjSHtvsNyKF/qbOi1kTkr7G2P7AcD0uyLDFm98wCdF1BZomdadM7jYGAdD ft3Wtp4ZJqC3wm25fvluvoX8wO6zvbXTExssl7PYPYfSpB3AliCg1NcCNux1C9ePw1Zt U59NpjJLTMkx2n6aa7+gzk8UgjY94yl0Zs0Mw= Received: by 10.236.197.72 with SMTP id s48mr10843910yhn.81.1324234021249; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.17] (bas4-ottawa10-1279675838.dsl.bell.ca. [76.70.77.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q52sm25413923yhh.3.2011.12.18.10.47.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:47:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEE3522.2000306@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:46:58 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Menth References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <4EE0AFEE.5080308@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> In-Reply-To: <4EE0AFEE.5080308@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:47:05 -0000 Does this also apply to the SM document? (I expect so.) On 08/12/2011 7:39 AM, Michael Menth wrote: > Hi, > > I just realized that our performance study of PCN-based admission > control is not in the references of the document. It helps to understand > the impact of the various parameters and the time it takes from emerging > overload until flow blocking and contains various other performance > aspects. > > The following sentence may be added at the end of Section 3.3.1 of both > documents: > > A performance study of this admission control method is presented in > [MeLe12]. > > 9.2. Informative References > [MeLe12] M. Menth and F. Lehrieder: "Performance of PCN-Based Admission > Control > under Challenging Conditions", accepted for IEEE/ACM Transactions on > Networking, 2012 > > (for early, preliminary access: > http://atlas2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/menth/papers/Menth08-Sub-8.pdf) > > Best wishes, > > Michael > > > Am 07.12.2011 16:18, schrieb Steven Blake: >> Howdy, >> >> Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and >> draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD >> comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both >> updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments >> to the pcn list ASAP. >> >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 >> >> >> Regards, >> >> // Steve >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PCN mailing list >> PCN@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn > From menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Sun Dec 18 10:57:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B831721F85C7 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:57:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SyephJFip2tl for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C738D21F84AC for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F3A5317; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:57:27 +0100 (MET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Received: from mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S2s2Af606K+L; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:57:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (zcs-bs.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.62]) by mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565375255; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:57:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (HSI-KBW-085-216-084-014.hsi.kabelbw.de [85.216.84.14]) by zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF85327F34E; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:57:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EEE3790.5090308@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:57:20 +0100 From: Michael Menth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Taylor References: <1323271095.26688.10.camel@tachyon> <4EE0AFEE.5080308@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> <4EEE3522.2000306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EEE3522.2000306@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] WGLC for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 and draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:57:32 -0000 Hi Tom, yes, we have investigated both AC methods. Regards, Michael Am 18.12.2011 19:46, schrieb Tom Taylor: > Does this also apply to the SM document? (I expect so.) > > On 08/12/2011 7:39 AM, Michael Menth wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just realized that our performance study of PCN-based admission >> control is not in the references of the document. It helps to understand >> the impact of the various parameters and the time it takes from emerging >> overload until flow blocking and contains various other performance >> aspects. >> >> The following sentence may be added at the end of Section 3.3.1 of both >> documents: >> >> A performance study of this admission control method is presented in >> [MeLe12]. >> >> 9.2. Informative References >> [MeLe12] M. Menth and F. Lehrieder: "Performance of PCN-Based Admission >> Control >> under Challenging Conditions", accepted for IEEE/ACM Transactions on >> Networking, 2012 >> >> (for early, preliminary access: >> http://atlas2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/menth/papers/Menth08-Sub-8.pdf) >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Michael >> >> >> Am 07.12.2011 16:18, schrieb Steven Blake: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> Both draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-09 and >>> draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06 were updated since WGLC due to AD >>> comments. Consequently, we will have an abbreviated WGLC for both >>> updated drafts, closing on Friday, Dec. 16. Please send your comments >>> to the pcn list ASAP. >>> >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10 >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-07 >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> // Steve >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PCN mailing list >>> PCN@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn >> -- Prof. Dr. habil. Michael Menth University of Tuebingen Faculty of Science Department of Computer Science Chair of Communication Networks Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany phone: (+49)-7071/29-70505 fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 mailto:menth@uni-tuebingen.de http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Dec 19 10:07:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE7511E809F; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:07:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id stAEzzlcrvbQ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F0221F8B4D; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:07:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111219180753.7516.78100.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:07:53 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:07:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notific= ation Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL)= Mode of Operation Author(s) : Anna Charny Fortune Huang Georgios Karagiannis Michael Menth Tom Taylor Filename : draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2011-12-19 Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using three PCN marking states, not- marked, threshold-marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Controlled Load (CL) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt From tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Mon Dec 19 10:13:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9527721F8B6D for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jBE-HzP-F9sc for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66AA21F8B52 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yhjj72 with SMTP id j72so4891225yhj.31 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-forwarded-message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KTECz19cZRFbt6530YGquTror5yjDSYJuVjMwy7ht0w=; b=TE3sK64Ux+D5nSnCQPL+IcDybdJJSJxb1iygb1urVyOHUjnvtCGuVyGkZI/HVk8YlQ GshbLUSoZQy+dujupZAQo+PrgzLDK1lalaACd4wepZKuNYfSYiCwcWG07MZRypVgHJBA eqsr/pddNAhZBwEJOm+ew0xHBhN8a+vU8uOTU= Received: by 10.236.129.202 with SMTP id h50mr31490721yhi.1.1324318404742; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.17] (bas4-ottawa10-1088918650.dsl.bell.ca. [64.231.148.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s12sm5454090and.15.2011.12.19.10.13.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:13:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEF7EC1.2080200@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:13:21 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pcn References: <20111219180753.7516.21314.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20111219180753.7516.21314.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20111219180753.7516.21314.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PCN] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:13:34 -0000 I have updated the CL edge behaviour draft with the comments from Michael Menth and Ruediger Geib. As well, David Harrington had suggested IANA regsitration of the STRUCTURED-DATA identifiers for the logs, and I've added that to this document (with the intention that the same registration covers SM and need not be repeated there). I also added numeric values for the syslog message facilities and severities as David had suggested. Finally, I deleted a personal comment that didn't draw any responses from the WG, and one other piece of potentially troublesome text. Tom Taylor -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:07:53 -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com CC: menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de, karagian@cs.utwente.nl, acharny@cisco.com, fqhuang@huawei.com, tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-11.txt has been successfully submitted by Tom Taylor and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour Revision: 11 Title: PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL) Mode of Operation Creation date: 2011-12-19 WG ID: pcn Number of pages: 33 Abstract: Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using three PCN marking states, not- marked, threshold-marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Controlled Load (CL) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The IETF Secretariat From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Dec 19 10:34:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9F111E80A0; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:34:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lF6xC+b0Eg9q; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D405911E8097; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:34:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111219183457.16937.96594.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:34:57 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:34:58 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notific= ation Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) = Mode of Operation Author(s) : Anna Charny Georgios Karagiannis Michael Menth Tom Taylor Filename : draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2011-12-19 Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using two PCN marking states, not- marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Single Marking (SM) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt From tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Mon Dec 19 10:36:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA841F0C51 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:36:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OVWdDmm7ipdL for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E7F1F0C40 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by ghbg18 with SMTP id g18so565094ghb.31 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:36:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-forwarded-message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zEBa/fi0tIfm142jOUfls87cl80sPZBL5bj0idZxKhQ=; b=dCjhb2rqJ0IppRJsWw9juQk3Mm5BBwXn/1KLceW2nx9U6U0gUOmz4vbt28X72xllZZ RSP4qu/awntcmqIKWnwll+AHnWSmgL8QqOrjs9pk+nATnCNzgAdTMPmRgftW6ol02O3M VFkhFfWTDS2B51Z9uoNULr6+vVMj/AaWde1nU= Received: by 10.101.173.20 with SMTP id a20mr1555078anp.88.1324319778643; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.17] (bas4-ottawa10-1088918650.dsl.bell.ca. [64.231.148.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j21sm8905700ann.0.2011.12.19.10.36.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:36:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EEF8420.3090301@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:36:16 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pcn References: <20111219183458.16937.92833.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20111219183458.16937.92833.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20111219183458.16937.92833.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PCN] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:36:19 -0000 That's the SM draft posted with the same changes as the CL draft, minus the IANA registration. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:34:58 -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com CC: menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de, karagian@cs.utwente.nl, acharny@cisco.com, tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt has been successfully submitted by Tom Taylor and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour Revision: 08 Title: PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mode of Operation Creation date: 2011-12-19 WG ID: pcn Number of pages: 31 Abstract: Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using two PCN marking states, not- marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Single Marking (SM) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The IETF Secretariat From Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de Mon Dec 19 23:53:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072D011E80C8 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:53:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1yrgEZzaIBLL for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail53.telekom.de (tcmail53.telekom.de [217.5.214.110]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CD311E80A2 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from he110890.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.92.131]) by tcmail51.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 20 Dec 2011 08:53:07 +0100 Received: from HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([169.254.5.93]) by he110890 ([10.134.92.131]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:53:06 +0100 From: To: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:53:04 +0100 Thread-Topic: [PCN] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt Thread-Index: Acy+fRwl9LJNbYMZRFyGKRU7UfucEAAbt3ug Message-ID: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D0A6270C74E@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <20111219183458.16937.92833.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4EEF8420.3090301@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EEF8420.3090301@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:53:10 -0000 Hi Tom, thanks again for editing the edge beahviour drafts. Best regards and Merry Christmas Ruediger -----Original Message----- From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom T= aylor Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:36 PM To: pcn Subject: [PCN] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-beh= aviour-08.txt That's the SM draft posted with the same changes as the CL draft, minus the IANA registration. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:34:58 -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com CC: menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de, karagian@cs.utwente.nl, acharny@cisco.com, tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-08.txt has been successfully submitted by Tom Taylor and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour Revision: 08 Title: PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mo= de of Operation Creation date: 2011-12-19 WG ID: pcn Number of pages: 31 Abstract: Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using two PCN marking states, not- marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Single Marking (SM) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ PCN mailing list PCN@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Dec 23 11:41:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F52921F8AF7; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:41:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OzMut8v2-7-o; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E629721F8AE9; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:41:27 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111223194127.27785.84235.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:41:27 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] Last Call: (PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL) Mode of Operation) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:41:28 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL) Mode of Operation' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-01-06. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using three PCN marking states, not- marked, threshold-marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Controlled Load (CL) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Dec 23 11:42:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDA121F8ACA; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.044 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.044 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.555, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lPiVAZGtDK+p; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C4321F8436; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:10 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111223194210.28040.66164.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:10 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] Last Call: (PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mode of Operation) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:42:11 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mode of Operation' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-01-06. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using two PCN marking states, not- marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Single Marking (SM) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Dec 23 11:42:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ED621F8B13; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.370, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HHhiIV45kq3l; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7079C21F84A8; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:46 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111223194246.28060.86582.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:42:46 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] Last Call: (Requirements for Signaling of (Pre-) Congestion Information in a DiffServ Domain) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:42:47 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'Requirements for Signaling of (Pre-) Congestion Information in a DiffServ Domain' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-01-06. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Precongestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo describes the requirements for the signaling applied within the PCN domain: (1) PCN-feedback-information is carried from the PCN-egress- node to the decision point;(2) the decision point may ask the PCN- ingress-node to measure, and report back, the rate of sent PCN- traffic between that PCN-ingress-node and PCN-egress-node. The decision point may be either collocated with the PCN-ingress-node or a centralized node (in the latter case, (2) is not required). The signaling requirements pertain in particular to two edge behaviours, "controlled load (CL)" and "single marking (SM)" [draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge- behaviour-09], [draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06]. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-signaling-requirements/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-signaling-requirements/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Dec 23 18:28:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52BA11E809F; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.861, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4mlcXvi1eUP; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA1711E8080; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111224022802.20622.51816.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:28:02 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] Last Call: (PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL) Mode of Operation) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:28:02 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL) Mode of Operation' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-01-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using three PCN marking states, not- marked, threshold-marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Controlled Load (CL) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Dec 23 18:38:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988AD21F8511; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.378, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iQ3siRhKQn+O; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC2021F84B5; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:11 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111224023811.22819.60779.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:11 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] Last Call: (Requirements for Signaling of (Pre-) Congestion Information in a DiffServ Domain) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:38:11 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'Requirements for Signaling of (Pre-) Congestion Information in a DiffServ Domain' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-01-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Precongestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo describes the requirements for the signaling applied within the PCN domain: (1) PCN-feedback-information is carried from the PCN-egress- node to the decision point;(2) the decision point may ask the PCN- ingress-node to measure, and report back, the rate of sent PCN- traffic between that PCN-ingress-node and PCN-egress-node. The decision point may be either collocated with the PCN-ingress-node or a centralized node (in the latter case, (2) is not required). The signaling requirements pertain in particular to two edge behaviours, "controlled load (CL)" and "single marking (SM)" [draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge- behaviour-09], [draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-06]. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-signaling-requirements/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-signaling-requirements/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Dec 23 18:38:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C4D11E80B3; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.308 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.308 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.291, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LtMmF06XipS3; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D08C11E80AA; Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:55 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20111224023855.23282.87984.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:38:55 -0800 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] Last Call: (PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mode of Operation) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:38:55 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mode of Operation' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-01-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using two PCN marking states, not- marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Single Marking (SM) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From slblake@petri-meat.com Sat Dec 24 11:08:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E7E21F84FB for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:08:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_60=1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O2OAoBOJVqCF for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D657C21F84F5 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:08:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=petri-meat.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=K/X8t4sVIhPQv4zxo0HcL7Tt6sSClmYfu3FcCa5Uh5KOBli1l5Muxd81nbvQtmwZOiDKBfJZxybAjMKZ1en5BMBcoN1AQUP2piDPwRnDu37R/dJHNW7cK0DHp2U0QNlm; Received: from cpe-174-097-234-146.nc.res.rr.com ([174.97.234.146]) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ReWxB-0004MM-1x for pcn@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:08:21 -0500 From: Steven Blake To: pcn Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:08:24 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1324753705.2647.39.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Subject: [PCN] PCN-related article in IEEE Communications X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:08:26 -0000 I just opened the Dec. 2011 issue of IEEE Communications and noticed this article: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=6094011 (available online to some IEEE members). Regards, // Steve