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Dear Shivan Sahib,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 


    pearg Session 1 (1:30 requested)
    Monday, 25 March 2019, Morning Session I 0900-1100
    Room Name: Congress Hall 1 size: 250
    ---------------------------------------------


iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/sessions/pearg.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: Privacy Enhancements and Assessments Proposed Research Group
Area Name: IRTF
Session Requester: Shivan Sahib

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 80
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: hrpc cfrg irtfopen qirg
 Second Priority: dprive mls rtcweb tls httpbis quic dnssd saag



People who must be present:
  Sara Dickinson
  Shivan Kaul Sahib

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  Would prefer 25th or 26th of March 2019 (Monday or Tuesday) for the session, based on travel requirements of invited academics.
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Hi all,

The draft agenda for IETF104 PEARG meeting is up:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-pearg-00.html

We have the very first meeting slot: Monday (25 March) at 9 am - 11 am CET
at Congress Hall 1 (LL).

Packed agenda again, with 5 presentations.

Also happy to announce that Chris Wood from Apple will be co-chairing
PEARG, along with Sara and me. Welcome, Chris!

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(Bcc'ing SECDISPATCH and SAAG as an FYI; thread on PEARG)

Hello, apologies for cross-posting.

At IETF 91 in 2014 we presented some very early work before SAAG that
describes how global censors use protocols to censor data flows (block,
impair, modify, etc.). After some editing in subsequent years based on
superb feedback from SAAG folks (Stephane B., Andrew M., thank you!) we had
tentative AD sponsorship and some thoughts that this was better on the IETF
side of the house rather than in a RG.

We've started to work on it again* and since the original draft we now have
SECDISPATCH to help "the misfit toys of security" find a home in terms of
IETF process... I very briefly described this work yesterday in SECDISPATCH
and Chris Wood, the new PEARG co-chair, suggested that PEARG would be a
good place for this work since part of what they would like to do in that
RG is document certain privacy-implicating things in the real world.

We don't really have a preference where this ends up -- there's even a case
to be made that given the dynamic nature of censorship that this will
necessarily always be a work in progress. We have heard people find it
useful and PEARG seems as good as anywhere, and obviously the process to
get to an RG RFC would help it get better (at least that is my impression!).

Here is the current version of the draft and the repo we're using to track
issues and version the doc:

draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07
repo: https://github.com/josephlhall/rfc-censorship-tech

Would love to hear if this is something people think PEARG would like to
work on and we have some ideas about additional documents in a series like
this (e.g., having some real-world descriptive reference on research and
practice in terms of traffic analysis could be really useful for IETF
folks, I suspect.)

Cheers! --Joe Hall

(copying two co-authors, Stan from CDT and Nick from Princeton)

* IASA2 has been a big focus of my own for the last two years.

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Don't miss out! CDT's Tech Prom is April 10, 2019, at The
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>(Bcc&#39;ing SECDIS=
PATCH and SAAG as an FYI; thread on PEARG)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hel=
lo, apologies for cross-posting.</div><div><br></div><div>At IETF 91 in 201=
4 we presented some very early work before SAAG that describes how global c=
ensors use protocols to censor data flows (block, impair, modify, etc.). Af=
ter some editing in subsequent years based on superb feedback from SAAG fol=
ks (Stephane B., Andrew M., thank you!) we had tentative AD sponsorship and=
 some thoughts that this was better on the IETF side of the house rather th=
an in a RG.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We&#39;ve started to work on it ag=
ain* and since the original draft we now have SECDISPATCH to help &quot;the=
 misfit toys of security&quot; find a home in terms of IETF process... I ve=
ry briefly described this work yesterday in SECDISPATCH and Chris Wood, the=
 new PEARG co-chair, suggested that PEARG would be a good place for this wo=
rk since part of what they would like to do in that RG is document certain =
privacy-implicating things in the real world.</div><div><br></div><div>We d=
on&#39;t really have a preference where this ends up -- there&#39;s even a =
case to be made that given the dynamic nature of censorship that this will =
necessarily always be a work in progress. We have heard people find it usef=
ul and PEARG seems as good as anywhere, and obviously the process to get to=
 an RG RFC would help it get better (at least that is my impression!).</div=
><div><br></div><div>Here is the current version of the draft and the repo =
we&#39;re using to track issues and version the doc:</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>draft: <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech=
-07">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07</a></div><di=
v>repo: <a href=3D"https://github.com/josephlhall/rfc-censorship-tech">http=
s://github.com/josephlhall/rfc-censorship-tech</a></div><div><br></div><div=
>Would love to hear if this is something people think PEARG would like to w=
ork on and we have some ideas about additional documents in a series like t=
his (e.g., having some real-world descriptive reference on research and pra=
ctice in terms of traffic analysis could be really useful for IETF folks, I=
 suspect.)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers! --Joe Hall</div><div><br></div>=
<div>(copying two co-authors, Stan from CDT and Nick from Princeton)<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>* IASA2 has been a big focus of my own for the last =
two years.<br></div><div><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Joseph Lorenzo Hall<br>Chie=
f Technologist, Center for Democracy &amp; Technology [<a href=3D"https://w=
ww.cdt.org" target=3D"_blank">https://www.cdt.org</a>]<br>1401 K ST NW STE =
200, Washington DC 20005-3497<br>e: <a href=3D"mailto:joe@cdt.org" target=
=3D"_blank">joe@cdt.org</a>, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: <a href=3D"https://josep=
hhall.org/gpg-key" target=3D"_blank">https://josephhall.org/gpg-key</a><br>=
Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 =C2=A01607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Don&#39;t miss out! CDT&#39;s Tech Prom is April 10,=
 2019, at The<br>Anthem. Please join us: <a href=3D"https://cdt.org/annual-=
dinner/" target=3D"_blank">https://cdt.org/annual-dinner/</a><br></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>

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Hi all,

The minutes from the Monday meeting are  up:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/minutes-104-pearg-00.txt

Thanks to Karan Saini for taking such comprehensive notes!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>The minutes from the Monday mee=
ting are=C2=A0 up:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104=
/materials/minutes-104-pearg-00.txt">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/1=
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n Saini for taking such comprehensive notes!</div></div></div>

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Hello everybody,

A quick email to inform you that with three colleagues (names at the end =
of the book) we
recently finalised a white book on cybersecurity and of course privacy =
is part of the topics
addressed (see Chapter 5 =C2=AB Privacy and personal data protection =
=C2=BB).

Here's the link:
	https://files.inria.fr/dircom/extranet/LB_cybersecurity_WEB.pdf =
<https://files.inria.fr/dircom/extranet/LB_cybersecurity_WEB.pdf>

Although this is an Inria document, meaning that having a cartography of =
our activities
(the =C2=AB Inria teams =C2=BB boxes) was part of the objectives, I =
think it can be interesting more
generally. Of course, this is far from exhaustive although we tried to =
provide a global=20
survey. It is also a bit European centric when it comes to data =
protection regulation, but
this is voluntary ;-)

Cheers,

  Vincent=

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 everybody,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A quick =
email to inform you that with three colleagues (names at the end of the =
book) we</div><div class=3D"">recently finalised a white book on =
cybersecurity and of course privacy is part of the topics</div><div =
class=3D"">addressed (see Chapter 5 =C2=AB&nbsp;Privacy and personal =
data protection&nbsp;=C2=BB).</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
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class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space: pre;">	=
</span><a =
href=3D"https://files.inria.fr/dircom/extranet/LB_cybersecurity_WEB.pdf" =
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</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Although =
this is an Inria document, meaning that having a cartography of our =
activities</div><div class=3D"">(the =C2=AB&nbsp;Inria teams&nbsp;=C2=BB =
boxes) was part of the objectives, I think it can be interesting =
more</div><div class=3D"">generally. Of course, this is far from =
exhaustive although we tried to provide a global&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"">survey. It is also a bit European centric when it comes to =
data protection regulation, but</div><div class=3D"">this is voluntary =
;-)</div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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