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Wed, 05 Jun 2019 18:12:09 +0200 To: pearg@irtf.org Cc: "christoffer.langstrom.88@gmail.com" From: Amelia Andersdotter Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=amelia@article19.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFjWlnsBEAC+jUN+LJE+mmxEL8lHSrvg47xSBMb9GdtH1Jr8tRSxXiO6R5E+FydsfqkL sjO0dI3x/VnNBi/kgPFFWiAzDEwGTiR/C9b/Muo+xrY+it6e49N56LTPGezrY2dy5yo6VcLl 7UwGz3fIWiNIj7dvuoPMBoO1uacF073E+dqDM5CmNh6o+OrHW8zhUlC9hKgXCq+8XpZJw90H un1zsHF0sRDiurjfYaCcbdAGK9+th9378ed1ZvLVo5uBVQXdydl3eJkNCOELq7VOS7oxSliA uX5/nj9A4LjeeYXgNbwGfKrMjlffP0FcAcgfzg9seqDd1DEk9EVaUMTr32fbWOQHjinXSC7r Lw4xaNfoBebIe1M6z16Xg7+bXXCTdmJYcL9ugmkvT6tGnR12Pfoca1oBwXPvA0VIRi86kCSU D9qvZ3Vl07MKD2hsvFkGZJOQfEaYv5QLpCWv6RCjfDNC05IyMeSW4H18Fr/BoHX8FXHV3+9H LsbJQ/Zrofd/Cm+TKEmXLAtYc7iXvzV+mw3/u0VYqjEy/CRYa62Ah0NNNVIuswfRVIfx3UZo jX4y8j2Kh0jtUV5A4GGf8H3SzQ/cB0I7wTRHU9mCPVCtH6M26nPumL4Zr4D6uGnAmPf9xnlX lokOn2Qxf/mBldsL41PDbEpYhZvvn5kJ/Z9Qh7Fks/hfTbbJowARAQABtEFBbWVsaWEgQW5k ZXJzZG90dGVyIChUZWNobmljYWwgY29uc3VsdGFudCkgPGFtZWxpYUBhcnRpY2xlMTkub3Jn PokCVAQTAQgAPhYhBD1dtsq4UrmIBVpqb/7xwpS06AtVBQJZbJ97AhsjBQkJZgGABQsJCAcC BhUICQoLAgQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEP7xwpS06AtVgrcQAJYg+mhDhui+9xNb9PuRJbelOI7J WlCjSycfaMi+rTJ9FjVKYIE9aug2VV486BZaeqMoOh5wjl61oeRTDHYG6HvhK4w8O/BVPsL0 8MEfYfpFevZmBsInEJypg0r7VJ/SeO9UyaFKUffgvLyiYwk7zJIgx5dHF5Vch0kTtRNc/Wbe 9MGfhl//1Ztl8GjGqzra7MwzaO12ctTDo7LIvXGqrpYm5g7+hRv3+KYVOJvlh4T4deAzNlX1 F/jj4cOYvJJxP2OMPZxoleQZSf63h0hWnKlQWX3UiUZY/M296V6niGDCQHX1q7oz9YWxwUun mNPltaPnTdvE51N98Q+hhrw39XowN0vYhfphaFNrf/crNKTB5Iqx62aAzYwqXQKlh6EtWAri 2rVB9vXxPv+1eL9t/Kga2JyCjmJVtYJxlZWceyW3EKjK+E7qjr1LHDFjV8ZbvN7QRTdjsuzR Ggz3ECba80Ij2/tASE8IXpT/Zb68NeSx3/nDXkIG13inSvGy8yNovzEADXsGO16GSx5Rool/ ECFhTYksMyM73FkvcpvXo6J+neyGEVKDx1Oy213KgTrAOrA+p2hMI2nX9sI5tvWms8XspwQ5 wtmzDribnZNQzpdrb45Chv56LjrKVer9tmraRq8Qe3mL6jXhMPWLim1OeAx6m3qBzKr3QxuG PdADCLHsuQINBFjWlnsBEADFjusaTo9W8VeWluCK/oJqyyyF1wMvou0ldfuoOpUZrOqsY67T M7yBqsv5COPVgAV+xp+axor5oHWxibd283w0Ok4dK6tvtNGwUqyDRlHtQ92DG/u4Tg5eOwrH NUn73/rfeBD9KhKAXcNKKPoccLgR8oQTXpO7eRo+0NI52pXQ6LdZ0wddYeTcHglsNKN1TK+C yYS7xfGolsZXXoBOKcyhfj/ckPFVIHWpGpEtcYWTZWvXgLprzHvpKzkzNyBwejaXE+bqCT2d Rl3omI/e2t3Vq33hFUUSAdxrFF29vMX/YsSnYqsFOIoayna+TRsDFAfZvbvHBOMckeJzvA8y Bdadw7CM08Uw8wqH7n9BA3oq//QpZJekPfrc2E9nM9H0d51T0uStLMbYDWdwxvfPA3p9z8L9 1vobt8bM/Jbhl9h+X2Yq9oBCiTI7b2izYd9FVG4BwBIdeh3bh9R9HExgRjF3XQ6uafT3pcVO PASdv9FRUYH1Va7QWQifoha0B7UXKx1OpX1Z6XR2NQ9KN2MvlwvBKdHtm6tBzUIFzW6D8vUO xiYKBA4fppJt/LJF4jsaCEyI/CVQnkC0yL5DKFOdigxTipwEL9Uc6r7VfR5OAGFd6vzuJFy+ j+/WhzaVT1oVYp6eQXh0bBtqqH2Mq9sAMnIjvaNYIKiQKgMa1Pa3OWQbQQARAQABiQI8BBgB CAAmFiEEPV22yrhSuYgFWmpv/vHClLToC1UFAljWlnsCGwwFCQlmAYAACgkQ/vHClLToC1Xn Rw//W4lzE8FddceKXGRwO/T1u4uzH9EjPCj+3/eHCrLI+h1m7QPyH1DrFAtZBoA6UoaF0+vI AJXM9/HI1FZ09EUdJr5X/+YREErFom4DbE1FK8fpK1/Hw2zI+7Xa8bVkmYrKhMGhi1Gq6Dtk sn/H4USdJL53ZPt10SVNK7H3w93Yp1GC4+0zWjfrsKfsHYZZr2SZyb5/gZlngfgaqiQLhIcP YmiU1GQi9QWkGxWRxk0YQXBwhekewvgltATxlRSCwguAi4uck9fAct9GGdpsshSOgAb9YIAn EV3EqaGnf0PknXp3vNHAZWrfM+RyuNdm2L5TjDU0rIrvyqGP3pR33cREGOAil5Sz2uFArmws Pt8VffbEXlf7qZqRBKaYeKt0qnxKMx1+e1JilVsfb8qtnAWAFDyR0HMlVj/dvGAmq/auPSOA UWRSnDRyT6rv/vXxrbkL4uxWax46qdpDhR15mS5MTng6b5b3Uox7xlveo/Sx71AdNf4goPvB /ntv0DiMuh+fmLGk3zrxs4Xd30Sx+qQwVaXR5xc5rgnF81wvfmuAOb2eP9mpD6DoabkpxC8f Lk17AK7Q1ZTgcZ+8XLRFnavdPrwCa9RU0BF53lJMSTPzyBcMwZ4sqA6Z5IRFVt7rEbSeeD8R Eiawo+FvVt9j0fKdNEBeaJ3WY5hlhNPcUXr4q1U= Organization: ARTICLE19 Message-ID: <5c71d268-d24a-0ab2-46bb-3d9fb7f9a712@article19.org> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:11:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US-large X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: 71684ae416b12bc74806129cb02de027 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] Privacy loss classes and CLT X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 16:12:14 -0000 Dear all, Tying back to our previous presentation on differential privacy and particularly the result which compared differential privacy metrics to the central limit theorem over large datasets, a paper at PETS will discuss a similar topic: https://petsymposium.org/2019/files/papers/issue2/popets-2019-0029.pdf=C2= =A0 warning: math-heavy. best regards, --=20 Amelia Andersdotter Technical Consultant, Digital Programme Chair, RCM TIG, IEEE 802.11 ARTICLE19 www.article19.org PGP: 3D5D B6CA B852 B988 055A 6A6F FEF1 C294 B4E8 0B55 From nobody Thu Jun 6 11:04:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25641200F7; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: sara@sinodun.com, pearg@irtf.org, irtf-chair@irtf.org, pearg-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.97.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155984429871.1523.5131778081908606493.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 11:04:58 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] pearg - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 105 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 18:04:59 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Sara Dickinson, a Chair of the pearg working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Privacy Enhancements and Assessments Research Group Area Name: IRTF Session Requester: Sara Dickinson Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 120 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: hrpc cfrg irtfopen qirg Second Priority: dprive mls rtcweb tls httpbis quic dnssd saag dnsop People who must be present: Christopher A. Wood Shivan Kaul Sahib Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Jun 7 04:41:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB7B1200E5 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 04:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sinodun.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pjqUvYakhYP7 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 04:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haggis.mythic-beasts.com (haggis.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:86:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B216120045 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 04:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sinodun.com ; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=To:Date:Subject:From; bh=iDBmNn/vEJyT9xpLZ6bdoZKsKftivxXIH4L5ug3xl3g=; b=RyCdYLlsxdo28UQJ2LK3/ThPHB IWOeu5360i5n1Yh3sKAQLJfW+j31+/gXjgtpcGiKv4W6NaR3X3XPdVIWv2PjocCOoU609HSBI1ZyI nhTH83mD9rw6KbCJw1HoYEAzwuG6tb0u855C7GfJn+PtWQ6DvAO50QOBBC9jimxlhKXw6buOJC3L9 3qJorvXCZJLGNL+TKpQInLiQueKycGtV4CiwW8CetHUuj6LyuTAFalakBVqh2HaIkidTuQVVFNbnB XXYxCimY32wfUNBxZuTK4f8HgOj/NxYAQAQT3KytEQprQWobfRr9OiZMrwopWzE1U3Q/XY3zagwUr mIMUh3fQ==; Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::41e7] (port=52027) by haggis.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hZDFO-0007xM-Gq for pearg@irtf.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 12:41:26 +0100 From: Sara Dickinson Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_01F45504-8662-427B-A9D7-BF0BD12ABCFA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 12:41:24 +0100 References: <155800230363.19745.1496619794666703625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <6d285cf5-4c38-b6ef-66dd-a0fd1c207268@torproject.org> To: "pearg@irtf.org" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7B4885DE-CC49-49D1-B0CF-48811D277939@sinodun.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: -16 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for adoption: draft-learmonth-pearg-safe-internet-measurement-02.txt X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 11:41:31 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_01F45504-8662-427B-A9D7-BF0BD12ABCFA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1AE85527-6370-435C-B835-260B8A4D72BC" --Apple-Mail=_1AE85527-6370-435C-B835-260B8A4D72BC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All, The call for adoption has now ended and the chairs have agreed that = there is overall consensus to adopt the document. The chairs would like to recognise that the issues raised with regard to = including an analysis of current practices were valid and significant. = In discussion with the author it has been agreed that the next revision = of the draft will include such an analysis to address these issues. Sara. > On 21 May 2019, at 11:23, Sara Dickinson wrote: >=20 > Hi All, >=20 > This email starts a two week Call for Adoption of = draft-learmonth-pearg-safe-internet-measurement >=20 > The draft is available at: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-learmonth-pearg-safe-internet-measu= rement/ = >=20 > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for = adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your = view. >=20 > Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, = etc. >=20 > This call for adoption ends on 4th April 2019. >=20 > Sara. >=20 --Apple-Mail=_1AE85527-6370-435C-B835-260B8A4D72BC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi All, 

The call for adoption has now ended and the chairs have = agreed that there is overall consensus to adopt the document.

The chairs would like to = recognise that the issues raised with regard to including an analysis of = current practices were valid and significant. In discussion with the = author it has been agreed that the next revision of the draft will = include such an analysis to address these issues.
Sara. 

On 21 = May 2019, at 11:23, Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com> wrote:

Hi All, 

This email starts a two = week Call for Adoption of = draft-learmonth-pearg-safe-internet-measurement

The draft is available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-learmonth-pearg-safe-int= ernet-measurement/

Please review this draft to see if you think = it is suitable for adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, = clearly stating your view.

Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, = review, etc.

This call for adoption ends on 4th April 2019.

Sara. 

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