From nobody Wed Aug 7 04:56:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F81E1206DC for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 04:56:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sinodun.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ma8FVhBg2YTK for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 04:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFB631206D7 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 04:56:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sinodun.com ; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=To:Date:Subject:From; bh=ozIQ3jLi9nLKAjsFsTNZIIbOz6QiKnthOGB2LJ8Ypjg=; b=mTod13xtTmKzQyNarUslSCs4Nd j/St9JxjMNO7m7gSpCdVqTEJkVOf/UWvRhmrTbvIs8LARMAsGrfQz305cElUX6XbImZQeQ4V7MdEG ro5ZceGyqjeKwSPhXMmdaWmxoPGy+i44hwyqWxyPYHHgrMTeV1TxB2ARYkMfEg8GgYDzz5XP1PmNA YbZ4PRJoNY56hUcOWAH9rkSTFZpgBvwQ8WOZC5/c2AZtSY6cQyA5ifkcWgx3wsNG43fh/XpfuF859 HBAprZxLy2U7z0NYEfs+IvDFk02uYvBxLuLp8zU9QeRrJhyEdTuThMFtVA4IPOoDlJGDd8JgIoyy/ KILu5ccA==; Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::41e7] (port=59625) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hvKYE-0001IP-2L for pearg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 12:56:22 +0100 From: Sara Dickinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 12:56:16 +0100 To: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 11:56:26 -0000 Hi All,=20 Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a = two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship = Techniques' The draft is available at: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption = by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. 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This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. 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Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 12:04:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bQJyA0YLOjNFUps0dyKVIU6KensdXlBvx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tSqylalgPLiygmtCyNcTlEhf1fNFbC6ml"; protected-headers="v1" From: Stephen Farrell To: Sara Dickinson , pearg@irtf.org Message-ID: <839bb497-a0df-0b5c-cec7-aad5b9157783@cs.tcd.ie> Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 References: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> In-Reply-To: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> --tSqylalgPLiygmtCyNcTlEhf1fNFbC6ml Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------282A5049612AB6B65E2F60D0" Content-Language: en-GB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------282A5049612AB6B65E2F60D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, please adopt ( and finish quickly! :-) S On 07/08/2019 12:56, Sara Dickinson wrote: > Hi All,=20 >=20 > Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a= two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniqu= es' >=20 > The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censo= rship-tech-07 >=20 > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoptio= n by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >=20 > This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. >=20 > Sara.=20 >=20 --------------282A5049612AB6B65E2F60D0 Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; name="0x5AB2FAF17B172BEA.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0x5AB2FAF17B172BEA.asc" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- 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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:49:51 -0400 Message-ID: To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Sara Dickinson , pearg@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b57e6c058f873716" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:50:05 -0000 --000000000000b57e6c058f873716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I've got a number of small edits that I'll wait to incorporate into an -08 until after the call for adoption. Cheers, Joe On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 08:04 Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Yes, please adopt ( and finish quickly! :-) > > S > > On 07/08/2019 12:56, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a > two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques' > > > > The draft is available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 > > > > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption > by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. > > > > This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. > > > > Sara. > > > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 --000000000000b57e6c058f873716 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've got a number of small edits that I'll w= ait to incorporate into an -08 until after the call for adoption. Cheers, J= oe

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 08:04 Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

Yes, please adopt ( and finish quickly! :-)

S

On 07/08/2019 12:56, Sara Dickinson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts = a two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techn= iques'
>
> The draft is available at: https://too= ls.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07
>
> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adopti= on by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>
> This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019.
>
> Sara.
>
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Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:56 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > Hi All, > > Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a > two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques' > > The draft is available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 > > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption > by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. > > This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. > > Sara. > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > --0000000000006e9225058f87cd74 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Yes, please adopt and pu= blish soon this important survey.

Cheers,
- Ira



On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:56 AM Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com> wrote:
Hi All,

Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a two= week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques= '

The draft is available at: https://tools.ie= tf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07

Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by= PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.

This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019.

Sara.
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--0000000000006e9225058f87cd74-- From nobody Wed Aug 7 08:42:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B201C120416 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:42:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sF3cn7bqHuEB for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx36-out10.antispamcloud.com (mx36-out10.antispamcloud.com [209.126.121.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1542A12040E for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xse230.mail2web.com ([66.113.196.230] helo=xse.mail2web.com) by mx66.antispamcloud.com with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvO5D-0001mg-BJ for pearg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:42:37 +0200 Received: from xsmtp21.mail2web.com (unknown [10.100.68.60]) by xse.mail2web.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 463bNl513WzBjh for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.5.2.18] (helo=xmail08.myhosting.com) by xsmtp21.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hvO59-0003ku-Ib for pearg@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 08:42:31 -0700 Received: (qmail 27502 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2019 15:42:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (Authenticated-user:_huitema@huitema.net@[172.58.43.192]) (envelope-sender ) by xmail08.myhosting.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with ESMTPA for ; 7 Aug 2019 15:42:31 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D50339B0-2A89-4AF5-9BF9-C17A8C91EC68 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Christian Huitema X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16F203) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:42:30 -0700 Cc: Sara Dickinson , pearg@irtf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> To: Ira McDonald X-Originating-IP: 66.113.196.230 X-Spampanel-Domain: xsmtpout.mail2web.com X-Spampanel-Username: 66.113.196.230/32 Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=66.113.196.230/32@xsmtpout.mail2web.com X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Class: ham X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.06) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: Mvzo4OR0dZXEDF/gcnlw0YiRRkpbHZ8F3zevhEShTfypSDasLI4SayDByyq9LIhVSPN8D7CMu9l6 RAPh+peMGkTNWdUk1Ol2OGx3IfrIJKywOmJyM1qr8uRnWBrbSAGDpaUm5TrTL2ku6BQx2IM1+5j9 EvBvwu01uVCaGVBWGqudPUIz3aVvG0OAJPKgheuN2rBNMmEsKEibQwSU1xBeOHButNDpi1WUXRkr He1vFsYm1aGKgRFqmjZjxZofiz4rFqANMYqm8+U1ocMliIzyKbyme9ldZJ7uNXfg/GfS8fXOC4kn OJkMS8NGDKsP9r3Khy7LI0kfFnXdPP6btp4oBeJDeKRq5oPj2hFJhLx+qI3HlR3ootg7OlA3N5WN re/oppAGOX5cHTu1yz4pRT/9FGrxEaaKeSxe0Wrx6M4G5/WoLsdfEoJI0BNUQ4KpaNyNCwGqOUcw rXf55E8Tb8bmXq4yH8StrboPphDtmrtUkwlUgiZZ2raUFFZA8s/fhxGt7T02ZXdoQxMs//iOE4Fl hiCv9TR+UxzLZWL8hwGBjhoI3W+YcuHfP5PkZb5A+wE5qGdpH54Oa3V8I76VOEvlwLCanpZsarZa LIRpEqA8mZEhjayWUXQRkOKYfN7LXho16GzZBsjGFTsqbVmYIcCievkGP7+Ffme9is1SOpx7as9X dU571qBU/d2sq9m7FB7HbsysZ6JLsPXBl9mMZaufxWkvZ+pWP1s35neRYWMQUWZErSs0X3oyoTc8 j/o7qulxga0t+M/l2RGu2HdOta227mre/hsBBxzR0ZxLcHZ9dOgQlHgBv3LbZgu5d65aNq7DYANc RPba635XAUr2XYOWgwEH5tktsnhMr4gG+2qXrJ13TCcoPDIAmM3A3S7UaUlE9R/2gMGq0KWAzmMf +ibVDpdplkxcBm4XM6d7s4Bx3w1WbaUe4g0kgaInvdEp64qlVpe//bVkg87Xe61e30HXuSERbInM iTBIUBbQ/Dy6Ip4D1rnEhdYtY/lMQX5s39oH5ijcGdSK77ViXbmzTYWgl82XucjoLWQ7++7jcUS/ T5w= X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine9.antispamcloud.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 15:42:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D50339B0-2A89-4AF5-9BF9-C17A8C91EC68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very well done survey. Please adopt. -- Christian Huitema=20 > On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Yes, please adopt and publish soon this important survey. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:56 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: >> Hi All,=20 >>=20 >> Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a t= wo week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques' >>=20 >> The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censors= hip-tech-07 >>=20 >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption b= y PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >>=20 >> This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. >>=20 >> Sara.=20 >> --=20 >> Pearg mailing list >> Pearg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > --=20 > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg --Apple-Mail-D50339B0-2A89-4AF5-9BF9-C17A8C91EC68 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very well done survey. Please adopt.
-- Christian Huitema 
=

On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>
Hi= ,

Yes, please adopt and publish soon this important= survey.

Cheers,
- Ira

<= div>
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chai= r - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Acce= ss Protocol SG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Print= ing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IST= O PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Pr= inter MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
P= O Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

<= /div>


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:5= 6 AM Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com= > wrote:
Hi= All,

Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a two w= eek Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques'

The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf= .org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07

Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by P= EARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.

This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019.

Sara.
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Smyshlyaev" Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:33:00 +0300 Message-ID: To: pearg@irtf.org Cc: cfrg-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b272f8058f960fc5" Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 03:21:45 -0700 Subject: [Pearg] Call for independent experts (prvacy issues) for Stage 4 of the PAKE selection process X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 07:32:39 -0000 --000000000000b272f8058f960fc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear PEARG, I am writing this message on behalf of the CFRG chairs. Currently there is an ongoing PAKE selection process in the CFRG. According to the plan of the PAKE selection process, the CFRG chairs have selected a number of PAKE-related topics that require independent reviews from experts deeply involved in several particular areas of IETF work: TLS and IPsec protocols, constrained environments and privacy. The chairs would like to announce the call for reviewers, who will be asked to prepare their reviews regarding one or more of the following topics about the nominated PAKEs: - Convenience for usage within/together with TLS 1.3 Handshake. - Convenience for usage within/together with IKEv2. - Convenience for usage in M2M/IoT protocols (i.e., with corresponding constrains on hardware). *- Privacy considerations (e.g., recommendations to prevent user enumeration).* The experts who would like to volunteer to do such a review are kindly asked to choose: 1) which topics from the provided list will be considered by them; 2) whether they could prepare their reviews for - all four balanced PAKEs, - all four augmented PAKEs or - all eight candidate PAKEs. We ask each of the expert to prepare reviews for all PAKEs (or at least all balanced/all augmented ones) to be sure that each of the PAKEs will be studied from the same points of view. *The call for reviewers will last until the 15th of August. Please send a message to cfrg@irtf.org or cfrg-chairs@ietf.org , if you could help. * Deadline for the reviews is 15th of September. The reviews will later be provided to Crypto Review Panel experts, who will prepare their overall reviews during Stage 5. Best regards, Stanislav Smyshlyaev, CFRG Secretary --000000000000b272f8058f960fc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear=C2=A0PEARG,

I am writing thi= s message on behalf of the CFRG chairs.

Currently there = is an ongoing PAKE selection process in the CFRG.
According to th= e plan of the PAKE selection process, the CFRG chairs have selected a numbe= r of PAKE-related topics that require independent reviews from experts deep= ly involved in several particular areas of IETF work: TLS and IPsec protoco= ls, constrained environments and privacy.=C2=A0

The chairs would lik= e to announce the call for reviewers, who will be asked to prepare their re= views regarding one or more of the following topics about the nominated PAK= Es:
- Convenience for usage within/together with TLS 1.3 Handshake.
-= Convenience for usage within/together with IKEv2.
- Convenience for usa= ge in M2M/IoT protocols (i.e., with corresponding constrains on=C2=A0hardwa= re).
- Privacy considerations (e.g., recommendations to prevent user = enumeration).

The experts who would like to volunteer to do such= a review are kindly asked to choose:
1) which topics from the provided = list will be considered by them;
2) whether they could prepare their rev= iews for=C2=A0
- all four balanced PAKEs,
- all four augmented PAKEs = or
- all eight candidate PAKEs.

We ask each of the expert to prep= are reviews for all PAKEs (or at least all balanced/all augmented ones) to = be sure that each of the PAKEs will be studied from the same points of view= .

The call for reviewers will last until the 15th of August. Plea= se send a message to=C2=A0cfrg@irtf.org=C2=A0or=C2=A0cfrg-chairs@ietf.org, if you could help.=C2=A0
Deadline for the reviews is 15th of September.

The reviews wil= l later be provided to Crypto Review Panel experts, who will prepare their = overall reviews during Stage 5.

Best regards,
= Stanislav Smyshlyaev,
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Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:13:54 +0200 To: pearg@irtf.org References: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> From: Niels ten Oever Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=lists@digitaldissidents.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFgpcR0BEACnfvNwTMlN+pyZT0AFYhWqxG3N4AoPIeNfbxLQH7dk8ZL7Ls05xtORfnu9 ovoaRrZpDufkMviUFidNYePbQNdgf63vWVgwpQR7utluwWraetcmZOu6tayJuyBK2b6d2Z23 MJAQxfa2/GMlN3QkvobaoyKtgbc8rOCgNla7WwkgtiVJ89xbAUHXPFpKWZluVRjaFh4p5C5r 7E5OvUiEGLQ5Cn2ir2PGIyIVqjB+hLTyaI6dIGCz2jtL0RATjmsmYUX7UkU/pz8MPPC2BJ5P KU9pdXMRBhAStxcph8vCo2ze9xSi3+1/5A2ULVtvO4s0hZ+exbTfMxMg3H5CCRFEEJXlQEXa Cd0ZHvqcv5xq8n9w/Ccd0CqYWATIwyP8Jlzd+BY3QGTWnWlgoAbs3Guh/pFYhEFNuuAF5Jk1 k5OlNGsRE/LQJmbT5SE7AtLJLbWewcHlEyIH+K6J8uVa4ExLXmRy+eRkFaxjGy3fLlUpy1Ee 1kU7VsQ/TZ8g8ujsMzxqsdB6y0TD/kVlWaDqPL6F+b+pm3lAuCBGWM1YZROTG58R6pD7sNVm i0ift4dIttAsg+2KoShm9A8kQ3tACXZDgNPC0l7VOqnVayjnF0RmjGeiX7PjOcLQCZ9a5wAH 5mrXMaKvfszqAVkP9HSrk1QVZOipF6vEimL43Czy7Rp1aUaUwwARAQABtC1OaWVscyB0ZW4g T2V2ZXIgPGxpc3RzQGRpZ2l0YWxkaXNzaWRlbnRzLm9yZz6JAj8EEwEIACkFAlgvB3YCGyMF CQlmAYAHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAO2D86RorIs56yD/44BSJvKnjH ex0nhPDI9nIJlzlnypa4qsniy0obG5GRbVRikT1E1xaz7VBoPs39hCywoIWd6p0hs1PG1Tcj WV0GwNKRt90PPEh6iNJSGjV2Aq3IlME/aUViD9008yfbRSqfsnPXLW1kpCoZNaOSNzpURoM9 OkVU/z4LSLD61SfFFByBne/GkJKt96/fcspBif1GPC//63ZKFrDqQ9JFR6dECAmsKv7baayz MTv3wrTcqpuHcqJIv4vTm8IPx1QiGgEvrMwsPZz/vx8bMdxxxHWgCcbrt+0b3tRzq9ATZwG3 xDiwnJgKd+ioZOC/b5sY69721sqwBmWYyXWVqtqt01xIgNZjr/wixam+l1bTGUgj0rwPWJWx +7Whe25ff+mNNW/UQeCBjZlxoxAJWSr1Pp3n+SQKQ4TLs8wIwHZtcVCffepfHd47CEbnR8Kc Tjm3tlKzSWq4zcUy6BaxHfgn9+HaAM7fwLqx9/WAtSfdmLXJTN+Swy0w/slakD75jl2o7U3e ETjoYQWt+306X2Uly/0ge7VEQ4ySmmbru6U5ainGE95gjsc++s+hvKmMuGYL3h4ijE1RSe/k wgM6/Z1B6JosssdX+KRuuk2A4FHGbcee8LUIJ3C36qyI7s6PJBXi6SjIPN0wpx30P/DUf/Lr o5lmHF03qQ5eeqI8lDwIobWlJbkCDQRYKXEdARAAxYOE3/AFmEfQ0SVVFujYFhZKX+BGXolY ytC2a1soZogVYTIIlypxkRtN+ljteFAY3xX/El7cx5Fxj+uXvLKAm9xQRI/DCug7/NGULMk9 bDK5bzSGw817cyiL5Kb+0RkWj2Y5ArOAK6XPGBZWZTHwyIawsSCN9AhDXZQWVRqkR1QXcq3I YKl+OHWMO7+1VfixCSakNf7T/Kiq46rQEPW8Eghk6CVOBR8xUCBbyk5aRW4VSGO6pUD3H21u r+5fTLsVyan1NHhxNNiXfnEJKr+JI5dXSkj7WqA5n8ITaNdFSAttkdT56wAQpxE2h8zaOmBa FUWQ4D8SdXDVymP5QMtLG+ItMMiNV6kXgsRFugAKM5yZtPP9gIX+ic8QO5iuct37bRXJU/rm rH54Ab0kyAeeRE7oSsfTZPKvgtUh7VLAUEw/wy6TORJHE8JMaX0yYT6h4PGRS3mNM4bka8hj dfcrexI0zSqFOl2I22zQlG3YqSzIvVh98W67hxfAIaCVaTfJLFPEru3drxNwi6ogdkRmcLGK qqTgeYItrvITyFvzqbrcO2exp0KKEK3cDIZypqHHUf4+uPlDtuExehLsNOMpjP8qhZpFtyLe DS07qunbvstcyvR30wOJ3DyAbHGzq739UyDcO9Jt5jwODyVwk3MK5Em4pJ0+IAJx+F6gta0B k2MAEQEAAYkCJQQYAQgADwUCWClxHQIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRAO2D86RorIs0ykD/4t151SZG9M beKRVKbs9Ecjady9bO0L3oBos4rhqY12ha8smFlsUzvbgB4CtkBuXQlq+plOBWv+rFEThOzy 3bezgEDjlxycoO1W2wJD6E7Fo9fkHT6UOm9fQBkuKRqK83OGnfM02qP1Ky8d7EoZz+nTSMf/ DJgWw1YRKrXkMHBwKD83lCENsmePWE5AjMqk8cojPv9Oy1wWy6fHjwx3r+wQSokBNfxgQyAF onmgBbhlic/pZUYRSIcldyUlaomrjFfr4egzmNE7aWDvLwOUYKevBIeJJcqTyfAn3TtJbPCE HOC2+lP6EcmPFyhQdiia+RqOClumqbWOPeQ2VM8j7NWvKKmBNBB5OJ/rmHogbNU+wWPJ723q MBoOp1jIwFNkQhx01W6v55VMwLr+IuBKY1ggJ2BhwQiGpWv4tMc5oB/qVh3my1VO65ErcJ3S 9blpwJdDj5/YDOU7BKEmpRUP+xkaryNzH2x7FzrOOHzJBX6jeYZabGvnTicQlBAzfGpblFqV 3YN6EhCF2AHmGLTZ/DrjGYToIsW8cXlEMqN4u8ODEUY0OhbnytnopKJKk99bwMoCqDkfQvT3 LKDWtZj9NzFndfuoKXsVpwAitrG0mau0/16DKDyVWdtJ9DYmtE40zO6g70VVxUj+dKt2hbJT y/KQTb7Ijhw7wZrGp/P7nhbVyA== Message-ID: <721fd98e-e5ad-3ddf-bd22-359f39c4e06d@digitaldissidents.org> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:13:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 29cc722430e8f1f6ed904119444c0d49b0f3ee91 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: 2c269fdec788119c0964d98755c55204 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:44:38 -0000 Fully support, please adopt. Best, Niels On 8/7/19 5:42 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: > Very well done survey. Please adopt. > > -- Christian Huitema  > > On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, please adopt and publish soon this important survey. >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:56 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques' >> >> The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf..org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 >> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >> >> This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. >> >> Sara. >> -- >> Pearg mailing list >> Pearg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >> >> -- >> Pearg mailing list >> Pearg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > -- Niels ten Oever Researcher and PhD Candidate Datactive Research Group University of Amsterdam PGP fingerprint 2458 0B70 5C4A FD8A 9488 643A 0ED8 3F3A 468A C8B3 From nobody Tue Aug 13 00:20:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F3F120091 for ; 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Tue, 13 Aug 2019 00:20:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> <721fd98e-e5ad-3ddf-bd22-359f39c4e06d@digitaldissidents.org> In-Reply-To: <721fd98e-e5ad-3ddf-bd22-359f39c4e06d@digitaldissidents.org> From: Corinne Cath Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:19:43 +0300 Message-ID: To: Niels ten Oever Cc: pearg@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000105574058ffa793d" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:20:22 -0000 --000000000000105574058ffa793d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Would love to see this adopted. -- Corinne Cath - Speth Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com Twitter: @C_CS On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:44 AM Niels ten Oever wrote: > Fully support, please adopt. > > Best, > > Niels > > On 8/7/19 5:42 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: > > Very well done survey. Please adopt. > > > > -- Christian Huitema > > > > On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Yes, please adopt and publish soon this important survey. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> - Ira > >> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:56 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email > starts a two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship > Techniques' > >> > >> The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf..org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 > > >> > >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for > adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. > >> > >> This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. > >> > >> Sara. > >> -- > >> Pearg mailing list > >> Pearg@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > >> > >> -- > >> Pearg mailing list > >> Pearg@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > > > > -- > Niels ten Oever > Researcher and PhD Candidate > Datactive Research Group > University of Amsterdam > > PGP fingerprint 2458 0B70 5C4A FD8A 9488 > 643A 0ED8 3F3A 468A C8B3 > > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > -- Corinne Cath - Speth Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com Twitter: @C_CS --000000000000105574058ffa793d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:44 AM Ni= els ten Oever <lists@digi= taldissidents.org> wrote:
Fully support, please adopt.

Best,

Niels

On 8/7/19 5:42 PM, Christian Huitema wrote:
> Very well done survey. Please adopt.
>
> -- Christian Huitema=C2=A0
>
> On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:= blueroofmusic@= gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, please adopt and publish soon this important survey.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:56 AM Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com <mailto:sara@sinodun.com>&g= t; wrote:
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi All,
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF = 105, this email starts a two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Wor= ldwide Censorship Techniques'
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf..or= g/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 <ht= tps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please review this draft to see if you think it= is suitable for adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly s= tating your view.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019= .
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sara.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pearg mailing list
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pearg@irtf.org <mailto:Pearg@irtf.org>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.irtf.org/mailman/= listinfo/pearg
>>
>> --
>> Pearg mailing list
>> Pearg@irtf.org= <mailto:Pearg@i= rtf.org>
>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg<= br> >

--
Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Interne= t Institute & Alan Turing Institute

Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath
Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & = corinnecath@gmai= l.com
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--000000000000105574058ffa793d-- From nobody Tue Aug 13 09:24:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C976B1200D6 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 09:24:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sIWIOpXg_klI for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 09:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D9FE12020A for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 09:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467J230SyczF9S; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:24:11 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1565713451; bh=jbGXSzWmsIhuh9mbMlbsl2G94zYKRSg/niMF0TcL0yM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=H+WCmTjO6DiY3GIc4OfEwGZw68NXmaHr5mtGvPs97ej95d2qKT3JUVr9pC4fehK2r zDRExq/0LhT/DkM9Cx2gFQi+9bv6AK5t+TXMGO4M2yDr7KAxwJFfoOQ81yPH0pImmH PSt+lFEwrwMRfS1z4myyNWXr1KjgGNh2zRsYiY2w= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I4a6_b7Ub2TH; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1EEE9353F92; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:24:08 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bofh.nohats.ca 1EEE9353F92 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1531241932CB; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:24:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Sara Dickinson cc: pearg@irtf.org In-Reply-To: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> Message-ID: References: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 16:24:16 -0000 On Wed, 7 Aug 2019, Sara Dickinson wrote: > Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts a two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques' > > The draft is available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 In favour of adoption. I'm not sure I like the list of "three elements of censorship" but I need to spend more time on this document to give proper feedback. But to me the term "prescription" is new and not immediate obvious. 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Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:34:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7973027D-7548-446D-9F88-D7863514C177@sinodun.com> In-Reply-To: <7973027D-7548-446D-9F88-D7863514C177@sinodun.com> From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 07:33:57 -0600 Message-ID: To: Sara Dickinson Cc: pearg@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cd1716059013cfe3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:34:12 -0000 --000000000000cd1716059013cfe3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support adoption of these documents On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:56 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > Hi All, > > There are currently 3 drafts related to Numeric IDs that have been > discussed on various IETF/IRTF lists: > > * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history > * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation > * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations > > > This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts > which have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG: > > 1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history-05 > > 2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation-04 > > Please review both these draft to see if you think they are suitable for > adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. > > ** Because they are so closely related, we are requesting that people send > an initial single response to this email but state their opinion separately > for each of the above drafts in that response ** > > Note that the third draft is currently in the IETF stream as an AD > sponsored submisssion. > > This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. > > Sara. > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 --000000000000cd1716059013cfe3 Content-Type: text/html; 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I support adoption of these documents

On Wed, Aug 7, 20= 19 at 5:56 AM Sara Dickinson <sara@s= inodun.com> wrote:
Hi All,

There are currently 3 drafts related to Numeric IDs that have been discusse= d on various IETF/IRTF lists:

* https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-n= umeric-ids-history
* https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gon= t-numeric-ids-generation
* https://tools.ietf.org/html/d= raft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations


This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts whic= h have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG:

1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-histor= y-05

2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-gener= ation-04

Please review both these draft to see if you think they are suitable for ad= option by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
** Because they are so closely related, we are requesting that people send = an initial single response to this email but state their opinion separately= for each of the above drafts in that response **

Note that the third draft is currently in the IETF stream as an AD sponsore= d submisssion.

This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019.

Sara.
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Joseph Lorenzo Hall
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1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497
e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.882= 5, pgp: https:= //josephhall.org/gpg-key
Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 =C2= =A01607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871

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[Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:53:18 -0000 --0000000000003bbe8b059015c124 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" obviously, outside the scope of the call for adoption but I would definitely support some re-organization that maybe pointed to paradigmatic examples and then listed the others as "see also" (if that makes sense). best, Joe On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 7:56 AM Eliot Lear (elear) wrote: > This is good work. One question: > > Do people really care that much about a *complete* woeful history of RFCs > that got it wrong? Might it make sense to get a bit more succinct and in > the process combine the docs? That way the 2nd doc is well motivated. > > Anyhow I view this point as editorial. > > Eliot > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 09:35, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > I support adoption of these documents > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:56 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> There are currently 3 drafts related to Numeric IDs that have been >> discussed on various IETF/IRTF lists: >> >> * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history >> * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation >> * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations >> >> >> This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts >> which have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG: >> >> 1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history-05 >> >> 2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation-04 >> >> Please review both these draft to see if you think they are suitable for >> adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >> >> ** Because they are so closely related, we are requesting that people >> send an initial single response to this email but state their opinion >> separately for each of the above drafts in that response ** >> >> Note that the third draft is currently in the IETF stream as an AD >> sponsored submisssion. >> >> This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. >> >> Sara. >> -- >> Pearg mailing list >> Pearg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >> > > > -- > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [ > https://www..cdt.org ] > 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 > e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key > Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 > > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg > > -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 --0000000000003bbe8b059015c124 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
obviously, outside the scope of the call for adoption but = I would definitely support some re-organization that maybe pointed to parad= igmatic examples and then listed the others as "see also" (if tha= t makes sense). best, Joe

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 7:56 AM Eliot Lear (e= lear) <elear@cisco.com> wrote:=
This is good work. One question:

Do people really care that much about a complete woeful history= of RFCs that got it wrong?=C2=A0 Might it make sense to get a bit more suc= cinct and in the process combine the docs?=C2=A0 That way the 2nd doc is we= ll motivated.=C2=A0

Anyhow I view this point as editorial.=C2=A0

Elio= t

On Aug 14, 2019, at 09:35, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote:

I support adoption of these documents

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:56 AM Sara D= ickinson <sara@sin= odun.com> wrote:
Hi All,

There are currently 3 drafts related to Numeric IDs that have been discusse= d on various IETF/IRTF lists:

* https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history
* https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation
* https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations

This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts whic= h have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG:

1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history-05

2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation-04

Please review both these draft to see if you think they are suitable for ad= option by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
** Because they are so closely related, we are requesting that people send = an initial single response to this email but state their opinion separately= for each of the above drafts in that response **

Note that the third draft is currently in the IETF stream as an AD sponsore= d submisssion.

This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019.

Sara.
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Joseph Lorenzo Hall
Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www..cdt.org]
1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497
e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202= .407.8825, pgp: https://joseph= hall.org/gpg-key
Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 =C2=A01607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871



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Joseph Lorenzo Hall
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1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497
e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.882= 5, pgp: https:= //josephhall.org/gpg-key
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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0CFA20EB-6D9F-44C3-8A46-38268002F508@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:07:24 -0000 On 14/8/19 16:56, Eliot Lear (elear) wrote: > This is good work. Thanks! > One question: > > Do people really care that much about a *complete* woeful history of > RFCs that got it wrong?  Might it make sense to get a bit more succinct > and in the process combine the docs?  That way the 2nd doc is well > motivated.  > > Anyhow I view this point as editorial. Responding to your comment: Originally, the two documents being part of the wg call for adoption, plus draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations, where all part of the same document (draft-gont-predictable-numeric-ids). We split the document into three pieces, upon request by folks at a secdispatch (?) meeting. -- the rationale was that -history was mostly informational, whereas -generation was more of a bcp, and -sec-considerations was a different kind of bcp. As authors, we wouldn't mind if the two docs where merged. Although I'd agree that that would be kind of "editorial", and the high order bit know is weather the RG wants to work on these docs. Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From nobody Thu Aug 15 15:47:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A631200E7 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.308 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.308 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NMrJhayfcCKE for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [IPv6:2001:67c:27e4::14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DAFF1200C7 for ; 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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0CFA20EB-6D9F-44C3-8A46-38268002F508@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 22:47:14 -0000 On 14/8/19 16:56, Eliot Lear (elear) wrote: > This is good work. One question: > > Do people really care that much about a *complete* woeful history of > RFCs that got it wrong?   As an additional note, the timelines are intended to provide the motivation of this work, and illustrate how hard and painful has been to get numeric ids right in a number of protocols due to lack of appropriate advice in this area. Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From nobody Mon Aug 19 13:52:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF29120045 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E8N9ZU0TB9lm for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [91.239.96.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 829FA120048 for ; 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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] Numeric IDs (Fwd: [ietf-privacy] Privacy of CLIENTID for IMAP/SMTP) X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:52:50 -0000 Folks, As you can see, the topic comes up over and over again (when it does! Because in all other cases, the outcome is simply flawed numeric IDs). This is the reason why we produced the set of documents on numeric ids (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pearg/YlTn3VlnwFbnJ0IgNLTtLwg6W0c) Thanks, Fernando -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [ietf-privacy] Privacy of CLIENTID for IMAP/SMTP Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:07:48 +0200 From: Kai Engert To: ietf-privacy@ietf.org Hello, I would like to ask for feedback on potential privacy concerns related to the following drafts, that describe a CLIENTID feature for the IMAP and SMTP protocols: * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yu-imap-client-id * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-storey-smtp-client-id The Thunderbird project is currently evaluating a request to support the CLIENTID feature and enable it by default. We'd like to ensure that we appropriately consider all potential privacy issues that could arise as a consequence, prior to making decisions about inclusion or default behavior. Here is my quick summary of the CLIENTID feature: * an email client creates a random client side identifier for itself, and stores it locally. * at the time a client starts a connection with an IMAP or SMTP server, which the user has configured for accessing or sending mail, the server may ask the client to send a client identifier. If the client supports it, and if the connection is encrypted, then the client sends its client side identifier. * the client ID doesn't replace the regular login credentials, but shall be treated as additional information about the client accessing the server. * servers want to compare the client ID that is received on a connection, and draw the conclusion that the current client is the same client that has connected to the server in the past. * the intention of the authors of the drafts is to make it easier for the server side to detect fraudulent login attempts. We have already identified that reusing a single identifier across multiple email accounts could allow a server to learn that those email accounts are controlled by the same entity, and we don't want to allow that. Consequently, Thunderbird would use a different client side identifier for each account. What are additional privacy concerns? If multiple client computers are used to access the same email account, this feature allows the server to distinguish the different computers. For example, a user might regularly use two different computers to access an email account, one computer at location A, and the other at location B. If both locations use a dynamic Internet connection with changing IP addresses, as of today, the server probably cannot distinguish which location was used to send an email. However, with the CLIENTID feature, the server potentially could. The server could use the CLIENTID feature to learn about habits. For example, if emails from location A are primarily sent during daytime, and emails from location B are primarily sent outside regular office hours, the server could learn that the computer at location A is at an office, and the computer at location B is in a private apartment. Consequently, the server operator could draw conclusions where the user was located at the time an email was sent. Can you think of additional negative consequences for the user's privacy with CLIENTID enabled? 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boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 03:20:14 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hi pearg folks-- On Wed 2019-08-07 12:56:35 +0100, Sara Dickinson wrote: > This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts which have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG: > > 1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history-05 > > 2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation-04 I think these drafts should be adopted by the PEARG. Thanks to Fernando for his persistence in working on them thus far! At the IETF we've had a difficult time thinking systemically about these problems, both for security and privacy implications. The work in these drafts is some of the only attempts i've seen at a larger overview of IETF work, looking for patterns, trying to learn from our past mistakes, and formulating guidance for future IETF work based on that research. It's all done with an eye toward privacy concerns as well, something we have traditionally not been as good about within the IETF. This is precisely the sort of research that i think the IRTF should be supporting in PEARG. As for the two documents -- i don't have a strong feeling about whether they should stay separate or merged together, and i don't think it's something that we need to decide before RG adoption. For maintenance work, i think it's useful to be able to update the documents in the future separately. if we have new guidance for generation there's no need to update the history draft. and if someone uncovers some additional use of transient numeric identifiers, we can update the history draft without needing to touch the guidance document. --dkg --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQTJDm02IAobkioVCed2GBllKa5f+AUCXV4J5gAKCRB2GBllKa5f +JOIAP9YzGxIMgXCw26iclcrcin62/B/Q5yxq64kr33zcSUrGwEA1NalbNn+c4aO mp9xgziIOz7/bmlaao9DMldcysk34wA= =qbJ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Fri Aug 23 05:24:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C01120832 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:24:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sinodun.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OT8Y5VrwaqiU for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haggis.mythic-beasts.com (haggis.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:86:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2B42120026 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:24:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sinodun.com ; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=To:Date:Subject:From; bh=Cz7Q5uEhm1YHcCohRCxwX5MQmJb947sbUH5NzrMaFkE=; b=GfZGTttD7i4xlcEHFOcmOkitHH GqOIiIpbQlGbJ3kTLQXDTJ9hwaub3QdhyZek/znM5KbGaVXEu2JkzNn0GqcfJpRcyoFhNXmWrQbES LOohiMcxalc6SiBkGBO7wTUwO6yC+aLRB+NQgJ14j/4zCP/DVumNCJwza9/o//OzZgfwqeBLA9AMS 61MsxqeaWDVWbLgs2YXx52qN2q7Q+kIaZ1TYgNEmM8OTidv72zvHMPL3t1AW21HCAYH3+gqKcABCB gakTQHV3+r+NIVucaA/JxyQNpNfDGAFNKXDKEplqqqLFml71tBqknLRjCutSX1GduBOINmDrCrR1O PTspNIMw==; Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::41e7] (port=64353) by haggis.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1i18c1-0003Az-Eo for pearg@irtf.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:24:17 +0100 From: Sara Dickinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:24:11 +0100 References: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> To: pearg@irtf.org In-Reply-To: <29CB0337-3B43-4E25-8CFC-F22361863111@sinodun.com> Message-Id: <4569359B-C3A3-4DEC-B4B2-BA9DA398A24A@sinodun.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:24:21 -0000 Hi All, Thank you to all who responded - it is clear that there is support for = this draft to be adopted! Regards Sara.=20 > On 7 Aug 2019, at 12:56, Sara Dickinson wrote: >=20 > Hi All,=20 >=20 > Following a positive hum on this draft at IETF 105, this email starts = a two week Call for Adoption of 'A Survey of Worldwide Censorship = Techniques' >=20 > The draft is available at: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-censorship-tech-07 >=20 > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for = adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating your = view. >=20 > This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. >=20 > Sara.=20 > --=20 > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg From nobody Fri Aug 23 05:24:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8090B120142 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:24:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sinodun.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RLPvK4zgmxKI for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haggis.mythic-beasts.com (haggis.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:86:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 037CE120026 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sinodun.com ; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=To:Date:Subject:From; bh=gwmx9aDKAywjlLhbEvedbbbFSItccorvjY6HP4FNfEg=; b=eNh96t1yKXuGeH/wMikFY7NrX7 bCgaAQGcatGenMa2tsv71nMKf+s6541ZiG3ZLkUHeTJyAdVB7KKyShuT/1C31QwEqez9gSYaS8dFN LWv0vBzQ3PRe7ZHu27cyXCbA5lAH9itf2QXHgt+xTsaiWSBLoTBXjSqbRVF9D+0pjT6ZtRIzTqZTZ gCrw2FytJHe/iivrwk4aaIHMUe4veL8qpyxhW4TRl1M2zxrZLbgth9lydb8rbifBiUc1aLvhyEsN4 gNByKDqUGHYeAbt+e0y6ZfTY0SgLi7NQ60ELeuqsfznACafF23UTQrUG8xtXlNV/elmpWeIHezeTt YqgOaBoA==; Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::41e7] (port=64353) by haggis.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1i18cO-0003Az-MD for pearg@irtf.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:24:40 +0100 From: Sara Dickinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:24:36 +0100 References: <7973027D-7548-446D-9F88-D7863514C177@sinodun.com> To: pearg@irtf.org In-Reply-To: <7973027D-7548-446D-9F88-D7863514C177@sinodun.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:24:44 -0000 Hi All,=20 Many thanks to those who responded. The chairs have agreed that there is = enough support to adopt both drafts, with further discussion expected on = whether they should be combined into one document or not.=20 Regards Sara.=20 > On 7 Aug 2019, at 12:56, Sara Dickinson wrote: >=20 > Hi All,=20 >=20 > There are currently 3 drafts related to Numeric IDs that have been = discussed on various IETF/IRTF lists: >=20 > * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history > * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation > * = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations >=20 >=20 > This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts = which have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG: >=20 > 1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history-05 >=20 > 2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation-04 >=20 > Please review both these draft to see if you think they are suitable = for adoption by PEARG and send comments to the list, clearly stating = your view. >=20 > ** Because they are so closely related, we are requesting that people = send an initial single response to this email but state their opinion = separately for each of the above drafts in that response **=20 >=20 > Note that the third draft is currently in the IETF stream as an AD = sponsored submisssion. >=20 > This call for adoption ends on 21st August 2019. >=20 > Sara.=20 > --=20 > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg From nobody Fri Aug 23 05:26:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6351B120C1C; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:26:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156656321040.24950.16935962666782804007.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:26:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] The PEARG RG has placed draft-hall-censorship-tech in state "Active RG Document" X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:26:50 -0000 The PEARG RG has placed draft-hall-censorship-tech in state Active RG Document (entered by Sara Dickinson) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hall-censorship-tech/ From nobody Fri Aug 23 05:27:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75734120B95; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:27:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156656324547.24999.990606743306871983.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:27:25 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] The PEARG RG has placed draft-gont-numeric-ids-history in state "Active RG Document" X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:27:26 -0000 The PEARG RG has placed draft-gont-numeric-ids-history in state Active RG Document (entered by Sara Dickinson) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-numeric-ids-history/ From nobody Fri Aug 23 05:27:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84DC120C31; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:27:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156656326894.25066.9887357595292907041.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:27:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] The PEARG RG has placed draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation in state "Active RG Document" X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:27:49 -0000 The PEARG RG has placed draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation in state Active RG Document (entered by Sara Dickinson) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-numeric-ids-generation/ From nobody Fri Aug 23 08:33:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63027120169; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 08:33:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pearg@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pearg@irtf.org Message-ID: <156657438425.25070.15361628320556285751@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 08:33:04 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-00.txt X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 15:33:05 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Privacy Enhancements and Assessments Research Group RG of the IRTF. Title : Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers Authors : Fernando Gont Ivan Arce Filename : draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-00.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2019-08-23 Abstract: This document analyzes the timeline of the specification of different types of "numeric identifiers" used in IETF protocols, and how the security and privacy implications of such protocols has been affected as a result of it. It provides concrete evidence that advice in this area is warranted. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Aug 23 08:33:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6086120C91; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 08:33:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pearg@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pearg@irtf.org Message-ID: <156657441484.24995.10089279666898951055@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 08:33:34 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation-00.txt X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 15:33:39 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Privacy Enhancements and Assessments Research Group RG of the IRTF. Title : On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers Authors : Fernando Gont Ivan Arce Filename : draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation-00.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2019-08-23 Abstract: This document performs an analysis of the security and privacy implications of different types of "numeric identifiers" used in IETF protocols, and tries to categorize them based on their interoperability requirements and the associated failure severity when such requirements are not met. Subsequently, it provides advice on possible algorithms that could be employed to satisfy the interoperability requirements of each identifier type, while minimizing the security and privacy implications, thus providing guidance to protocol designers and protocol implementers. Finally, this describes a number of algorithms that have been employed in real implementations to generate transient numeric identifiers and analyzes their security and privacy properties. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Aug 23 09:03:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A88012082F; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:03:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pearg@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pearg@irtf.org Message-ID: <156657618956.25054.16168726460341463783@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:03:09 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-00.txt X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 16:03:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Privacy Enhancements and Assessments Research Group RG of the IRTF. Title : A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques Authors : Joseph Lorenzo Hall Michael D. Aaron Stan Adams Ben Jones Nick Feamster Filename : draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-00.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2019-08-23 Abstract: This document describes the technical mechanisms used by censorship regimes around the world to block or impair Internet traffic. It aims to make designers, implementers, and users of Internet protocols aware of the properties being exploited and mechanisms used to censor end-user access to information. This document makes no suggestions on individual protocol considerations, and is purely informational, intended to be a reference. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Aug 23 10:04:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272AF12082C for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:04:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sinodun.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JzAsZFozYqu0 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E126F1201E3 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sinodun.com ; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=Date:To:Subject:From; bh=Rjs9PlrDB7pGgkyhrmrdj2fJyk21hsS2f/QkwkPQdk8=; b=ku/z1pffnL3U0VFtmdvD8+FUmw E83k1HxwQb5qmU1g2q8CmQM1JJHXRrnwbNY9EPzH2iVspOXnovnyokLTAe+loZjzXmtUpDpxl+SOj 4tnAweAr9x9UM5OSyNv9XIHDj789OYyn77fdxlj+hwRuCOSZfUQc4v1c/PxznxEdWrXXaFML4Ag5I cdrCAmuQmnk3N9cR7SDWcifZl4ffdaHUIb4GKmnhzzQH1WFH9lvHL/7URuIl1Ysw4RzB4pPmqf0x6 2hs3clXW4OAAsoBBCSuv+xuLKS8cikrq1nESrWP41RJMaaTzqi15I8fHT5hUPqbuzvCM+hxEJ4clx U2OJ99DA==; Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::41e7] (port=50052) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1i1Cyb-00032h-Pl for pearg@irtf.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:03:54 +0100 From: Sara Dickinson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A860102D-1325-4D46-B1EC-A2257A641B96" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: <1CDDA2D4-0500-4577-B6F9-7C366AB57B25@sinodun.com> References: To: pearg@irtf.org Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:03:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] Fwd: [dns-privacy] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:04:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A860102D-1325-4D46-B1EC-A2257A641B96 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All,=20 The document below is currently in WGLC in DPRIVE. Since it contains = much discussion of privacy and in particular topics including data = leakage in TLS & DoH headers, data handling and IP address anonymization = methods any feedback from folks on this list would be much appreciated.=20= Regards Sara.=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: Tim Wicinski > Subject: [dns-privacy] Working Group Last Call for = draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op > Date: 16 August 2019 at 12:49:49 BST > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Cc: dprive-chairs@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op >=20 > Current versions of the draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op/ = >=20 >=20 > The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Current = Practices >=20 > Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. > If this does not seem appropriate please speak out.=20 > If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please = speak out with your reasons. >=20 > This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: = 30 August 2019 >=20 > thanks > tim >=20 > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-privacy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy --Apple-Mail=_A860102D-1325-4D46-B1EC-A2257A641B96 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = All, 

The = document below is currently in WGLC in DPRIVE. Since it contains much = discussion of privacy and in particular topics including data leakage in = TLS & DoH headers, data handling and IP address anonymization = methods any feedback from folks on this list would be much = appreciated. 

Regards

Sara. 

Begin forwarded = message:

From: = Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: = [dns-privacy] = Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op
Date: = 16 August 2019 at 12:49:49 = BST
To: = dns-privacy@ietf.org
Cc: dprive-chairs@ietf.org


This = starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op

Current versions of the = draft is available here:
https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op/=


The Current Intended Status of this = document is: Best Current Practices

Please review the draft and offer = relevant comments.
If this does not seem = appropriate please speak out. 
If someone = feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please speak out with = your reasons.

This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and = ends on: 30 August 2019

thanks
tim

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