From nobody Fri Oct 2 14:54:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4B73A16F9; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 14:54:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: irtf-chair@irtf.org, pearg@irtf.org, pearg-chairs@ietf.org, ssahib@salesforce.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.18.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160167568012.24916.15518469129270591460@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 14:54:40 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] pearg - Not having a session at IETF 109 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 21:54:41 -0000 Shivan Sahib, a chair of the pearg working group, indicated that the pearg working group does not plan to hold a session at IETF 109. This message was generated and sent by the IETF Meeting Session Request Tool. From nobody Wed Oct 7 16:18:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD763A14D6 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:18:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=salesforce.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 473Jz7aNbn1s for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-il1-x129.google.com (mail-il1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C44C3A14D4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-il1-x129.google.com with SMTP id t12so3996224ilh.3 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=salesforce.com; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oKzTsH/u+ndYWXgemVfY+OGyJkN+FG7Qk8tYnxsLmr0=; b=evtMjK8aUXsxHpQhyq5N0QcfxWNxoetznuADMCd6UTX+DnfeZa7tZOdzPfbatbXqJX Ve5WKIwBA4y/Z3rvAO7e2rMyEXYZm0ycKjpWu1+rBgzgEUQgu2uz7jO3fF+Z3IbCgCr+ esXO730EwcoH4MmdPQ61f/k4xsPqYrqBlqFhU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oKzTsH/u+ndYWXgemVfY+OGyJkN+FG7Qk8tYnxsLmr0=; b=LtOzz3LXGhHXe7QJonQbfhs815WArJthQET3hlYDxeMMvX8mSjEPcNSx66msqi0jcs vdKruIt9+09DfR/AIh6Ryzb+1pKVY2QUeNbSz5m3/eB2HdT7Uhweo7XNKRwNyb65kPDe dkwKR2jZoY06pI5icg3UaCu0/RbgCS7yu5Pn3/3yiTKFTLWdF+XWAKHypKRvPgqIypRb GMonmj0eboQh305XSFNsRZa5+dH1d58xvdhq+K/NlyRJDZ9FHwCQVw9+h8+RZh2VNrt/ O7xmlJMgZNwSOPAaSY1RHKrCGIGaoBeRNcAhSGsqGAPb/pKsqOHhi6uP5bh1jIv4d1b+ 5SRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320H10DrBTr/szP9wpYtOQgcn2MeB6SQL6wJg7L1n0g4jYbhlSP RxqJpWJQdcMNqaM/XsssyQi3eC0wFGwq4G0Yrj2EfI9Vyu2Lpg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwWqGZS2LxhunYUfibgtjF0U3LQgUKr7ES60yE64zC+dE1/gf31lg31h5m95RCOwu7D2IpKq8GIhsZ5Ze0UsPU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:4891:: with SMTP id j17mr4178487ilg.65.1602112728415; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Shivan Sahib Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:18:37 -0700 Message-ID: To: pearg@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000011648805b11cf091" Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] Not meeting at IETF 109 X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 23:18:51 -0000 --00000000000011648805b11cf091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi all, we won't be meeting at IETF 109. We'll be focusing on advancing the pending drafts. --00000000000011648805b11cf091 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all, we won't be meeting at IETF 109. We'll be = focusing on advancing the pending drafts.=C2=A0
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Best, Chris, for the chairs From nobody Wed Oct 21 17:00:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pearg@irtf.org Delivered-To: pearg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEC33A0C7A; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 17:00:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pearg@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.20.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pearg@irtf.org Message-ID: <160332480984.14917.5943902270817953751@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 17:00:09 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-03.txt X-BeenThere: pearg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Privacy Enhancements and Assessment Proposed RG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 00:00:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Privacy Enhancements and Assessments Research Group RG of the IRTF. Title : Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers Authors : Fernando Gont Ivan Arce Filename : draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-03.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2020-10-21 Abstract: This document analyzes the timeline of the specification and implementation of different types of "transient numeric identifiers" used in IETF protocols, and how the security and privacy properties of such protocols have been affected as a result of it. It provides empirical evidence that advice in this area is warranted. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Due to lack of interest, PEARG will not adopt this document. We thank the authors for their work on this problem. Best, Chris, for the chairs On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, at 6:21 AM, Christopher Wood wrote: > This message starts a two week adoption call for "Randomized Response > Mechanisms in RRT Measurements for HTTP/3," located here: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andersdotter-rrm-for-rrt-in-http3-00 > > Please review the draft and indicate whether or not you would like to > see this draft adopted by PEARG. > > This call for adoption ends on October 30, 2020. > > Best, > Chris, for the chairs > > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >