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Jose Carr Helen Astor int873@12pocket.com int873@angelfire.com jose7223@newyorkcity.com jose811@canoemail.com Additionally you can fax us at 5305098416 (U.S. fax number that we will get electronicaly ) include your email address and contact person please. _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon May 1 19:28:03 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA08231 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439304433A; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from mx2.mail.yahoo.com (PPPa62-ResaleMyrtleBeach1-5R7290.saturn.bbn.com [4.48.85.251]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 14BDB44336; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:59:02 Message-Id: <369.344346.269302@mx2.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [PINT] Parents of 15-year-old find $71,000 cash hidden in his closet Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Parents of 15-year-old find $71,000 cash hidden in his closet Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. You most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA). His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when she came across a large brown paper bag that was suspiciously buried beneath some clothes and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old son's closet. Nothing could have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened the bag and found it was full of cash. Five dollar bills, twenties, fifties and hundreds- all neatly rubber-banded in labeled piles. "My first thought was that he had robbed a bank", says the 41-year-old woman, "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag- that's more than my husband earns in a year". The woman immediately called her husband at the car-dealership where he worked to tell him what she'd discovered. He came home right away and they drove together to the boy's school and picked him up. Little did they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than actually finding it in the closet. As it turns out, the boy had been sending out via E-mail on the Internet a type of 'chain-letter' to E-mail addresses that he obtained off of the Internet. Everyday after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing this right on his computer in his bedroom. "I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck, I put my name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out", says the clever 15-year-old. The E-mail letter listed 3 addresses and contained instructions to send one $5 dollar bill to the person at the top of the list, then delete that address and move the other 2 addresses up, and finally to add your name to the bottom of the list. The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand dollars in five dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter with your name at the bottom of the 3-address list "I get junk E-mail all the time, and I really didn't think it was gonna work", the boy continues. Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game magazine subscriptions began to fill up with not magazines, but envelopes containing $5 dollar bills. "about a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and my box had 1 magazine and about 300 envelopes stuffed in it. There was also a yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter- I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)". He goes on, "I went up to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to ride back home and empty out my backpack 'cause I couldn't carry it all". Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail. "The money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the closet, I barely had time for my homework". He had also been riding his bike to several of the area's banks and exchanging the $5 bills for twenties, fifties and hundreds. "I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in [to exchange the money] and he was outside waiting for me. One time the lady gave me a really strange look and told me that she wouldn't be able to do it for me and my dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)." Surprisingly, the boy didn't have any reason to be afraid. The reporting news team examined and investigated the so-called 'chain-letter' the boy was sending out and found that it wasn't a chain-letter at all. In fact, it was completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must be exchanged for money received. Every five dollar bill that he received contained a little note that read, "Please add me to your mailing list". This simple note made the letter legal because he was exchanging a service (adding the purchasers name to his mailing list) for a five dollar fee. Here is the letter that the 15-year-old was sending out by E-mail, you can do the exact same thing he was doing, simply by following the instructions in this letter- -------------------------------------------- Here are instructions on how to make $10,000 US cash in the next 2 weeks: There are 3 addresses listed below. Send the person at the top of the list a $5 bill wrapped in 2 pieces of paper (to securely hide it), along with a note that says: "Please add me to your mailing list". Then delete that name, move the other 2 up and put your name at the bottom. Now start sending this ENTIRE E-mail back out to people. When 20 people receive it, those 20 people will move your name up to the middle position and they will each send out 20. That totals 400 people that will receive this letter with your name in the middle. Then, those 400 people will move your name up to the top and they will each send out 20 E-mails. That totals 8,000 people that will receive this E-mail with your name at the top and they will each send you a $5 bill. 8,000 people each sending you a $5 bill = $40,000 cash. That's if everyone responds to this E-mail, but not everyone will, so you can expect more realistically to receive about $10,000 cash $5 bills in your mailbox. This will work for anyone, anywhere in the world in any country, but send only a US CASH $5 bill. The more E-mails you send out, the more cash you will receive. If each person sends out 100 E-mails, there will be 1,000,000 people that receive this letter when your name reaches the top. If only 1% of those people respond, you will still get $50,000 cash. Here is the list: ---------------------------------------------------------- 1) K. 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I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further into debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. But like most of you I was still a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161 24-hrs) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! After determining the program was LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT." Initially I sent out 100,000 e-mails. It cost me about $15 for my time on-line. The great thing about e-mail is that I don't need any money for printing to send out the program, and because all of my orders are fulfilled via e-mail, the only expense is my time. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me. In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. 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You have just received INF0RMATION that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of this money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over 4 MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 1,600,000 programs. Now I have several offices that make this and several other programs here and over seas. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report to everyone you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more...and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, INF0RMATION, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Jody Jacobs, Richmond, VA HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR$ INSTRUCTIONS: This method of raising capital REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am sure that you could use up to $46,000 or more in the next 90 days. Before you say: "BULL.... ", please read this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do: As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Because of the global nature of the internet, you will be able to recruit new multi-level business partners from all over the world, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME BY MAIL AND ARE FILLED BY E-MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere. This is what you MUST do: 1. Order all 5 reports shown on the list below (you can't sell them if you don't order them). a. For each report, send $5.00 CASH, the NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR NAME & RETURN ADDRESS (in case of a problem) to the person whose name appears on the list next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE IN CASE OF ANY MAIL PROBLEMS! b. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the five reports. You will need all five reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. c. Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the five reports. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. 2. IMPORTANT-- DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than is instructed below in steps "a" through "g" or you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you'll also see how it doesn't work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will not work. a. Look below for the listing of available reports. b. After you've ordered the five reports, take this advertisement and REM0VE the name and address under REPORT #5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their $46,000! Also, change the name of the company, the address, and the REM0VE e-mail address on the top of this document to your own. c. Move the name and address under REPORT #4 down to REPORT #5. d. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to REPORT #4. e. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to REPORT #3. f. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2. g. Insert your name/address in the REPORT #1 position. Please make sure you copy every name and address ACCURATELY! 3. Take this entire letter, including the modified list of names, and save it to your computer. Make NO changes to the instruction portion of this letter. Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely you can afford $25). You obviously already have an Internet connection and e-mail is FREE! To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing INF0RMATION which includes how to send bulk e-mails, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much, much more. In addition you will be provided with INF0MATION on Internet Marketing Clubs such as INTERNET MARKETING RESOURCES (IMR): This is one the premiere internet marketing clubs on the INTERNET. This club provides a forum where internet marketers from all over the world can exchange ideas and secrets on Internet Marketing. In addition, members of this club are provided free internet marketing tools and services for the Do-Yourself-Internet-Marketer. They will provide you with free bulk e-mail software and up to 1,000,000 fresh e-mail addresses each week. This club will provide you with hundreds of free resources that include: How to obtain free web sites, how to obtain top rankings in search engines for your web-site, how to send bulk e-mail into AOL and Compuserve, how to market your products on newsgroups, free classified ads, electronic malls, bulletin boards, banner ads and much more. There are two primary methods of building your downline: METHOD #1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.3% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also, many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.3% response, that is only 6 orders for REPORT #1. Those 6 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 12,000. Out of those 0.3%, 36 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 36 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 72,000. The 0.3% response to that is 216 orders for REPORT #3. Those 216 send out 2,000 programs each for a 432,000 total. The 0.3% response to that is 1,296 orders for REPORT #4. Those 1,296 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,592,000 total. The 0.3% response to that is 7,776 orders for REPORT #5. That's 7,776 $5 bills for you, CASH!!! Your total income in this example is $30 + $180 + $1,080+ $6,480 + $38,880 for a total of $46,650!!! REMEMBER, FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,994 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and e-mail is FREE!!! REPORT #2 and #5 will show you the best methods for bulk emailing, tell you where to obtain free bulk e-mail software and where to obtain e-mail lists and show you how to send out 1,000,000 e-mails for free. METHOD #2 - PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET 1. Advertising on the 'Net is very, very inexpensive, and there are HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. Let's say you decide to start small just to see how well it works. Assume your goal is to get ONLY 6 people to participate on your first level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on the internet will EASILY get a larger response.) Also assume that everyone else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 6 downline members. Follow this example to achieve the STAGGERING results below. 1st level--your 6 members with $5 ($5 x 6)........................$30 2nd level--6 members from those 6 ($5 x 36)....................$180 3rd level--6 members from those 36 ($5 x 216)............ $1,080 4th level--6 members from those 216 ($5 x 1,296)....... $6,480 5th level-6 members from those 1,296 ($5 x 7,776)... $38,880 .................................................$46,650 Remember friends, this assumes that the people who participate only recruit 6 people each. Think for a moment what would happen if they got 20 people to participate! Many people will get 100's of participants! THINK ABOUT IT! For every $5.00 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the report they ordered. THAT'S IT! ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! This will guarantee that the e-mail THEY send out, with YOUR name and address on it, will be prompt because they can't advertise until they receive the report! AVAILABLE REPORTS *** Order Each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME *** Notes: ALWAYS SEND $5 CASH (U.S. CURRENCY) FOR EACH REPORT CHECKS NOT ACCEPTED ALWAYS SEND YOUR ORDER VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least two sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, include: (a) the number & name of the report you are ordering, (b) your e-mail address, and (c) your name & postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: ______________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: K and P Scott 48832 Andorra Street Indio CA 92201 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: Michele Richter P.O. Box 4534 Fort Lauderdale, Fl. 33338-4534 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: Paul Bowen 1105 Amble Lane Clearwater, FL 33755 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of Multilevel Marketing and the Internet" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: RML, Inc. 1584 Huron Church Road Suite 105 Windsor, ON N9C 2L1 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #5 "How to SEND 1,000,000 e-mails for FREE" ORDER REPORT #5 FROM: Ray Jones 113 Thunderlane Mena, AR 71953-7714 ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ There currently more than 175,000,000 people online worldwide! ******* TIPS FOR SUCCESS ******* * TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Be prompt, professional, and follow the directions accurately. * Send for the five reports IMMEDIATELY so you will have them when the orders start coming in because: * When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested product/report. * ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE. * Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the instructions exactly, your results WILL BE SUCCESSFUL! * ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU WILL SUCCEED! ******* YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES ******* Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you don't receive 20 orders for REPORT #1 within two weeks, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT#2. If you don't, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a DIFFERENT report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. If you want to generate more income, send another batch of e-mails or continue placing ads and start the whole process again! There is no limit to the income you will generate from this business! Before you make your decision as to whether or not you participate in this program, please answer one question: DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE? If the answer is yes, please look at the following facts about this program: 1. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO PRODUCE! 2. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO SHIP! 3. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT COST YOU ANYTHING TO ADVERTISE! 4. YOU ARE UTILIZING THE POWER OF THE INTERNET AND THE POWER OF MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR PRODUCT ALL OVER THE WORLD! 5. YOUR ONLY EXPENSES OTHER THAN YOUR INITIAL $25 INVESTMENT IS YOUR TIME! 6. VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE INCOME YOU GENERATE FROM THIS PROGRAM IS PURE PROFIT! 7. THIS PROGRAM WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER. ******* T E S T I M O N I A L S ******* This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rule of not trying to place your name in a different position, it won't work and you'll lose a lot of potential income. I'm living proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to financial security. Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody, and I live in Chicago, IL. I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to Jody about receiving "junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was shocked! I was sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work. I AM a believer now. I have joined Jody in her "hobby." I did have seven more years until retirement, but I think of the "rat race" and it's not for me. We owe it all to MLM. Mitchell Wolf MD., Chicago, IL The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. Sincerely yours, Pam Hedland Halmstad, Sweden I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed another program. 11 months passed then it came...I didn't delete this one! I made more than $41,000 on the first try!! Mohamed, Cairo, Egypt This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit our jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Good luck and happy spending! Sam Lee Suva, Fiji Islands ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! 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This is not spam. You are receiving this e-mail because you or someone else requested this information. If you wish to be permanently removed from our mailing list, please send a reply with the word "REM0VE" in the subject line to: allen_hardy@bangkok.com WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE SENDING OF UNSOLICITED E-MAILS. _________________________________________________________________________ WORK AT HOME USING YOUR COMPUTER!!! _________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friend, You can earn $46,000 or more in next the 90 days sending e-mail. Seem impossible? Read on for details (no, there is no "catch")... _________________________________________________________________________ "AS SEEN ON NATIONAL T.V." Thank you for your time and Interest. This is the letter you've been reading about in the news lately. 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"HERE IT IS BELOW" _________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________ *** Print This Now For Future Reference *** The following income opportunity is one you may be interested in taking a look at. It can be started with VERY LITTLE investment and the income return is TREMENDOUS!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $46,000 in less than 90 days! Please read the enclosed program...THEN READ IT AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ THIS IS A LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not require you to come into contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all, you never have to leave the house except to get the mail. If you believe that someday you'll get that big break that you've been waiting for, THIS IS IT! Simply follow the instructions, and your dreams will come true. This multi-level e-mail order marketing program works perfectly...100% EVERY TIME. E-mail is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!!! The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using e-mail. Get your piece of this action!!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and the Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services will be sold through multi-level methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 3,500,000 millionaires in the WORLD, 20% ( 700,000) made their fortune in the last several years in MLM. Moreover, statistics show that over 100 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. You may have heard this story before, but over the summer Donald Trump (A MULTI-BILLIONAIRE, ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST MEN IN THE WORLD) made an appearance on the David Letterman show. Dave asked him what he would do if he lost everything and had to start over from scratch. Without hesitating, Trump said he would find a good network marketing company and get to work. The audience started to hoot and boo him. He looked out at the audience and dead-panned his response "That's why I'm sitting up here and you are all sitting out there!" With network marketing you have two sources of income. Direct commissions from sales you make yourself and commissions from sales made by people you introduce to the business. Residual income is the secret of the wealthy. It means investing time or money once and getting paid again and again and again. In network marketing, it also means getting paid for the work of others. This program is currently being utilized in more than 50 different countries across the world. The enclosed INF0RMATION is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Johnathon Rourke. Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the past twelve years down-sized and my position was eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends and creditors over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just couldn't seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happened in my life and I am writing to share the experience in hopes that this will change your life FOREVER FINANCIALLY!!! In mid December, I received this program via e-mail. Six month's prior to receiving this program I had been sending away for INF0RMATION on various business opportunities. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were not cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much for me to risk to see if they would work or not. One claimed that I would make a million dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it! But like I was saying, in December of 1997 I received this program. I didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further into debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. But like most of you I was still a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161 24-hrs) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! After determining the program was LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT." Initially I sent out 100,000 e-mails. It cost me about $15 for my time on-line. The great thing about e-mail is that I don't need any money for printing to send out the program, and because all of my orders are fulfilled via e-mail, the only expense is my time. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me. In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. Your goal is to "RECEIVE at least 20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $46,000 in 90 days was done. By January 30, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. Your goal is to "RECEIVE AT LEAST 100+ ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $46,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 1, of my e-mailing of 100,000, I received $42,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attached program, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER!!! Remember, it won't work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It won't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! In order for this program to work, you must meet your goal of 20+ orders for REPORT #1, and 100+ orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $46,000 or more in 90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS!!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I am sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and are if financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Johnathon Rourke A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: By the time you have read the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for 10 years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate... because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER." The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich", inflation will see to that. You have just received INF0RMATION that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of this money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over 4 MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 1,600,000 programs. Now I have several offices that make this and several other programs here and over seas. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report to everyone you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more...and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, INF0RMATION, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Jody Jacobs, Richmond, VA HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR$ INSTRUCTIONS: This method of raising capital REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am sure that you could use up to $46,000 or more in the next 90 days. Before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do: As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Because of the global nature of the internet, you will be able to recruit new multi-level business partners from all over the world, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME BY MAIL AND ARE FILLED BY E-MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere. This is what you MUST do: 1. Order all 5 reports shown on the list below (you can't sell them if you don't order them). a. For each report, send $5.00 CASH, the NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR NAME & RETURN ADDRESS (in case of a problem) to the person whose name appears on the list next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE IN CASE OF ANY MAIL PROBLEMS! b. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the five reports. You will need all five reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. c. Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the five reports. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. 2. IMPORTANT-- DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than is instructed below in steps "a" through "g" or you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you'll also see how it doesn't work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will not work. a. Look below for the listing of available reports. b. After you've ordered the five reports, take this advertisement and REM0VE the name and address under REPORT #5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their $46,000! Also, change the name of the company, the address, and the REM0VE e-mail address on the top of this document to your own. c. Move the name and address under REPORT #4 down to REPORT #5. d. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to REPORT #4. e. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to REPORT #3. f. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2. g. Insert your name/address in the REPORT #1 position. Please make sure you copy every name and address ACCURATELY! 3. Take this entire letter, including the modified list of names, and save it to your computer. Make NO changes to the instruction portion of this letter. Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely you can afford $25). You obviously already have an Internet connection and e-mail is FREE! To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing INF0RMATION which includes how to send bulk e-mails, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much, much more. In addition you will be provided with INF0MATION on Internet Marketing Clubs such as INTERNET MARKETING RESOURCES(IMR): This is one the premiere internet marketing clubs on the INTERNET. This club provides a forum where internet marketers from all over the world can exchange ideas and secrets on Internet Marketing. In addition, members of this club are provided free internet marketing tools and services for the Do-Yourself-Internet-Marketer. They will provide you with free bulk e-mail software and up to 1,000,000 fresh e-mail addresses each week. This club will provide you with hundreds of free resources which include: How to obtain free web sites, how to obtain top rankings in search engines for your web-site, how to send bulk e-mail into AOL and Compuserve, how to market your products on newsgroups, free classified ads, electronic malls, bulletin boards, banner ads and much more. There are two primary methods of building your downline: METHOD #1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.3% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also, many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.3% response, that is only 6 orders for REPORT #1. Those 6 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 12,000. Out of those 0.3%, 36 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 36 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 72,000. The 0.3% response to that is 216 orders for REPORT #3. Those 216 send out 2,000 programs each for a 432,000 total. The 0.3% response to that is 1,296 orders for REPORT #4. Those 1,296 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,592,000 total. The 0.3% response to that is 7,776 orders for REPORT #5. That's 7,776 $5 bills for you, CASH!!! Your total income in this example is $30 + $180 + $1,080+ $6,480 + $38,880 for a total of $46,650!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,994 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and e-mail is FREE!!! REPORT #2 and #5 will show you the best methods for bulk emailing, tell you where to obtain free bulk e-mail software and where to obtain e-mail lists and show you how to send out 1,000,000 e-mails for free. METHOD #2 - PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET 1. Advertising on the 'Net is very, very inexpensive, and there are HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. Let's say you decide to start small just to see how well it works. Assume your goal is to get ONLY 6 people to participate on your first level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on the internet will EASILY get a larger response.) Also assume that everyone else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 6 downline members. Follow this example to achieve the STAGGERING results below. 1st level--your 6 members with $5 ($5 x 6)........................$30 2nd level--6 members from those 6 ($5 x 36)....................$180 3rd level--6 members from those 36 ($5 x 216)............ $1,080 4th level--6 members from those 216 ($5 x 1,296)....... $6,480 5th level-6 members from those 1,296 ($5 x 7,776)... $38,880 ..................................................$46,650 _________________________________________________________________________ Remember friends, this assumes that the people who participate only recruit 6 people each. Think for a moment what would happen if they got 20 people to participate! Many people will get 100's of participants! THINK ABOUT IT! For every $5.00 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the report they ordered. THAT'S IT! ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! This will guarantee that the e-mail THEY send out, with YOUR name and address on it, will be prompt because they can't advertise until they receive the report! _________________________________________________________________________ AVAILABLE REPORTS _________________________________________________________________________ *** Order Each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME *** Notes: ALWAYS SEND $5 CASH (U.S. CURRENCY) FOR EACH REPORT CHECKS NOT ACCEPTED ALWAYS SEND YOUR ORDER VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least two sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, include: (a) the number & name of the report you are ordering, (b) your e-mail address, and (c) your name & postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: ______________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: Allen Hardy P.O. Box 224 Trinity, NC 27370 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: Kimberly Fleming #936 c/o Landbase Australia Locked Bag 25 Gosford NSW 2250 Australia ______________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: Kevin Pruitt 8430 JR Manor Tampa, FL 33634 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of Multilevel Marketing and the Internet" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: Paul Boevien 1939 June Bells Dr. Clearwater, FL 33755 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #5 "How to SEND 1,000,000 e-mails for FREE" ORDER REPORT #5 FROM: Jean Madden 81643 West 8th Rd. PMB #48 Irrigon, OR 97844-7036 ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ There currently more than 175,000,000 people online worldwide! ******* TIPS FOR SUCCESS ******* * TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Be prompt, professional, and follow the directions accurately. * Send for the five reports IMMEDIATELY so you will have them when the orders start coming in because: When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested product/report. * ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE. * Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the instructions exactly, your results WILL BE SUCCESSFUL! * ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU WILL SUCCEED! ******* YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES ******* Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you don't receive 20 orders for REPORT #1 within two weeks, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT#2. If you don't, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a DIFFERENT report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. If you want to generate more income, send another batch of e-mails or continue placing ads and start the whole process again! There is no limit to the income you will generate from this business! Before you make your decision as to whether or not you participate in this program. Please answer one question. DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE? If the answer is yes, please look at the following facts about this program: 1. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT WHICH DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO PRODUCE! 2. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT WHICH DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO SHIP! 3. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT WHICH DOES NOT COST YOU ANYTHING TO ADVERTISE! 4. YOU ARE UTILIZING THE POWER OF THE INTERNET AND THE POWER OF MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR PRODUCT ALL OVER THE WORLD! 5. YOUR ONLY EXPENSES OTHER THAN YOUR INITIAL $25 INVESTMENT IS YOUR TIME! 6. VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE INCOME YOU GENERATE FROM THIS PROGRAM IS PURE PROFIT! ******* T E S T I M O N I A L S ******* This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rule of not trying to place your name in a different position, it won't work and you'll lose a lot of potential income. I'm living proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to financial security. Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody, and I live in Chicago, IL. I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to Jody about receiving "junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was shocked! I was sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work. I AM a believer now. I have joined Jody in her "hobby." I did have seven more years until retirement, but I think of the "rat race" and it's not for me. We owe it all to MLM. Mitchell Wolf MD., Chicago, IL The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. Sincerely yours, Pam Hedland Halmstad, Sweden Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. I surprised when I found my medium-size post office box crammed with orders! For awhile, it got so overloaded that I had to start picking up my mail at the window. I'll make more money this year than any 10 years of my life before. The nice thing about this deal is that it doesn't matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return. Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed another program, .11 months passed then it came...I didn't delete this one!...I made more than $41,000 on the first try!! Mohamed, Cairo, Egypt This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit our jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Good luck and happy spending! Sam Lee Suva, Fiji Islands ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOUR TURN DECISIVE ACTION YIELDS POWERFUL RESULTS _________________________________________________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: If you need help with starting a business, registering a business name, learning how income tax is handled, etc., contact your local office of the Small Business Administration (a Federal agency) 1-(800)827-5722 for free help and answers to questions. Also, the Internal Revenue Service offers free help via telephone and free seminars about business tax requirements. Your earnings and results are highly dependant on your activities and advertising. This letter constitutes no guarantees stated nor implied. In the event that it is determined that this letter constitutes a guarantee of any kind, that guarantee is now void. Any testimonials or amounts of earnings listed in this letter may be factual or non-verifiable. If you have any question of the legality of this letter contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Consumer Protection in Washington DC. _________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sat May 6 00:06:58 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA06031 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87424435B; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from cherie.unitecinc.co.jp (cherie.unitecinc.co.jp [202.248.31.146]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CAB44339 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([206.71.182.13]) by cherie.unitecinc.co.jp (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0100109-40733) with SMTP id AAA175; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:09:37 +0900 From: To: Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 20:57:15 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [PINT] Exhibit, Expose, Connect at CN2000! Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com C O R P O R A T E N E T W O R K S 2 0 0 0 Communications ~~ Convergence ~~ E-Business ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Communications Managers Association (CMA) members and Corporate Networks 2000 attendees represent the industry's top buyers and decision-makers. Those individuals have the power, authority, and budget to make a difference in your bottom line. You can capture their attention while they're all under one roof during Corporate Networks 2000 on October 11 - 13, 2000, at the Hilton New York & Towers. Call 1-800-CMA-EXPO (262-3976) to reserve your booth space today! Visit http://www.cma.org and click on the Corporate Networks 2000 logo for more details and to download an exhibitor prospectus. _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu May 11 13:36:02 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03998 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797C34433F; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (unknown [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA5844339 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dynamicsoft.com (1Cust38.max1.par2.fra.da.uu.net [195.129.10.38]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id NAA12410; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <391AF21F.E1EC5F2F@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:47:11 -0400 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Olson Cc: sip@lists.research.bell-labs.com, pint@lists.bell-labs.com References: <200005111639.LAA26040@b04a45.exu.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PINT] Re: [SIP] Mailing list for SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I had already created (and I think announced) an egroups list for it - sip-events@egroups.com. We definitely don't need 2. -Jonathan R. Sean Olson wrote: > > I started an informal mailing list to hash out some of the details of the > SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY extension to SIP. You can find this at: > > http://www.egroups.com/group/sip-sub > > I don't intend to subvert the main SIP mailing list, this is just a place to hash > out some ideas until the SIP working group decides to make this a work item. > > For a starting point, take a look at the following drafts: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-roach-sip-subscribe-notify-00.txt > > http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-pip-00.txt > > and > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pint-protocol-04.txt > > -- > Sean Olson > Ericsson Inc. > tel: +1-972-583-5472 > > _______________________________________________ > SIP mailing list > SIP@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/sip -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu May 11 18:30:37 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA09326 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D31E44342; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F8CA44361 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Mon May 8 14:45:58 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id EA5EA4434B; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B5B4434E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 618DA52AB; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from chair.dnrc.bell-labs.com (chair [135.180.161.201]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AB252D5 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10] (may be forged)) by chair.dnrc.bell-labs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA20516 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:14:25 -0400 (EDT) From: S_S_Dinesh/India/IBM@au1.ibm.com Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Mon May 8 08:00:30 EDT 2000 Received: from ausmtp01.au.ibm.com ([202.135.136.97]) by dusty; Mon May 8 08:00:28 EDT 2000 Received: from f03n05e.au.ibm.com by ausmtp01.au.ibm.com (IBM AP 1.0) with ESMTP id VAA241312; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:52:38 +1000 Received: from d73mta05.au.ibm.com (f06n05s [9.185.166.67]) by f03n05e.au.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA49426; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:57:54 +1000 Received: by d73mta05.au.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id CA2568D9.0041B999 ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:57:53 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMAU@IBMIN@IBMAU To: pint@lists.research.bell-labs.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, sigtran@baynetworks.com, megaco@baynetworks.com, tina-in-wg@tinac.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:10:30 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [PINT] CFP: Computer Networks Special Issue on IN and IP Convergence Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Ladies and Gentlemen! Computer Networks Journal plans to publish in February 2001 a special issue on "Voice / Data Integration - A Snapshot of Intelligent Network and Interent Convergence". Guest editors: T. Magedanz (IKV++) and M. Smirnov (GMD FOKUS) Deadline for submission is June 2000! Maybe a good candidate for disseminating your results! For more infos look at: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/events/IN-Internet/ Best regards, Thomas Magedanz (magedanz@ikv.de) IKV++ GmbH, Bernburger Str. 24-25, D-10963 Berlin, Germany --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu May 11 18:32:34 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA09419 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:32:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF48F44336; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC644336 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mr3.exu.ericsson.se (mr3u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.126]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22605; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:39:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from newman.exu.ericsson.se (newman.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.10.50]) by mr3.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00785; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:39:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from b04a45.exu.ericsson.se (b04a45 [138.85.60.145]) by newman.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16265; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:39:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Sean Olson Received: (from eussean@localhost) by b04a45.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26040; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:39:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:39:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200005111639.LAA26040@b04a45.exu.ericsson.se> To: sip@lists.research.bell-labs.com, pint@lists.bell-labs.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Subject: [PINT] Mailing list for SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com I started an informal mailing list to hash out some of the details of the SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY extension to SIP. You can find this at: http://www.egroups.com/group/sip-sub I don't intend to subvert the main SIP mailing list, this is just a place to hash out some ideas until the SIP working group decides to make this a work item. For a starting point, take a look at the following drafts: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-roach-sip-subscribe-notify-00.txt http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-pip-00.txt and http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pint-protocol-04.txt -- Sean Olson Ericsson Inc. tel: +1-972-583-5472 _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu May 11 18:33:58 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA09432 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB294435D; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9047344340 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.127]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04390; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from newman.exu.ericsson.se (newman.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.10.50]) by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18738; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from b04a45.exu.ericsson.se (b04a45 [138.85.60.145]) by newman.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21320; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Sean Olson Received: (from eussean@localhost) by b04a45.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA26167; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200005111815.NAA26167@b04a45.exu.ericsson.se> To: sip@lists.research.bell-labs.com, pint@lists.bell-labs.com, eussean@exu.ericsson.se X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Subject: [PINT] Re: Mailing list for SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com My apologies for creating a duplicate list. I somehow missed Jonathon's announcement. I defer to Jonathan's list :) (http://www.egroups.com/group/sip-events) Thanks Jonathan. -- Sean Olson Ericsson Inc. tel: +1-972-583-5472 _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon May 15 17:12:11 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10130 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D7F44336; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7619F44336 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Mon May 15 15:50:19 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 228FD44345; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7E744341 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 5FD5352C8; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:37:18 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 41B1352B6 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by grubby; Mon May 15 15:35:18 EDT 2000 Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com ([135.207.30.102]) by dusty; Mon May 15 15:35:16 EDT 2000 Received: from postal.research.att.com (postal.research.att.com [135.207.23.30]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1594CE02 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com (dhcp-new153.research.att.com [135.207.19.153]) by postal.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08660 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3920513A.A4D0D6CB@research.att.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:34:18 -0400 From: "Gregory W. Bond" Organization: AT&T Labs - Research, Florham Park, NJ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pint@lists.research.bell-labs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PINT] 2nd CFP: IP Telecom Services Workshop 2000 Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Please accept our apologies for multiple copies of this call.] ------------- SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS --------------- IP TELECOM SERVICES WORKSHOP 2000 (IPTS 2000) co-located with Fall 2000 Voice on the Net (VON) organized by AT&T Labs Research pulver.com Cobb Galleria, Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A September 11, 2000 submission deadline: June 16, 2000 http://www.research.att.com/conf/ipts2000/ ----------------------------------------------------------- IPTS 2000 is a new workshop dedicated to the important, emerging field of IP Telecom Services research. In contrast to the services available on the PSTN, a new world of telecom services is possible on an IP-based infrastructure. This world presents new challenges for service development, deployment and management. This one-day workshop will serve as a forum for the dissemination of research relating to these challenges. The IPTS 2000 Program Committee invites submission of papers on substantial, original and previously unpublished research in IP telecom services, including, but not limited to: - service architectures (e.g. AIN, SoftSwitch, JAIN, Parlay, DFC) - service creation environments - protocols, standards and interoperability (e.g. H.323, SIP, MGCP, Megaco/H.248, etc.) - service programming languages - service management - billing, fault tolerance, monitoring - novel services We welcome papers describing original research; position papers describing research interests in the field, work in progress, or future directions of research; project or system descriptions. IMPORTANT DATES June 16, 2000 Submission deadline July 21, 2000 Notification of acceptance August 25, 2000 Final version of papers September 11, 2000 IPTS 2000 PAPER SUBMISSIONS Papers must describe original, previously unpublished work that has not been simultaneously submitted for publication elsewhere. They must be written in English, not exceeding 6 pages including figures, tables and references in 10-12 point font on 8.5x11-inch (US letter) paper. The first page must include an abstract of up to 200 words, keywords, and email address of the corresponding author. All papers must be submitted electronically unless specifically approved by the Workshop Co-Chairs. Submissions in PostScript or PDF format should be sent to mailto:ipts2000@research.att.com. Authors of accepted papers are expected to present their contribution at the workshop. The proceedings will be published in hardcopy and on the web. REVIEW PROCEDURE All submissions will be subject to academic peer review by the IPTS 2000 Program Committee under the chairmanship of the Workshop Co-Chairs. Each paper will receive three written reviews, and reviews will be returned to the authors. The Workshop Co-Chairs have final authority over the review process and all decisions relating to acceptance of papers. Review criteria include originality of ideas, technical soundness, significance of results, and quality of presentation. CONFERENCE VENUE AND RELATED EVENTS IPTS 2000 will be held on September 11, 2000 in Atlanta, Georgia. The workshop will be co-located with Fall 2000 Voice on the Net (VON). Details about Fall 2000 VON can be found at http://pulver.com. IPTS 2000 is organized by AT&T Labs Research (http://www.research.att.com) and pulver.com (http://pulver.com). WORKSHOP CO-CHAIRS Greg Bond, AT&T Labs Research Eric Cheung, AT&T Labs Research PROGRAM COMMITTEE Mauricio Arango, Sun Microsystems Labs Joanne Atlee, University of Waterloo Ralph Blumenthal, Daewoo Telecom Scott Hoffpauir, BroadSoft Evan Magill, University of Strathclyde Peter Mataga, dynamicsoft Bernie Pagurek, Carleton University Jonathan Rosenberg, dynamicsoft Henning Schulzrinne, Columbia University Greg Utas, Nortel Networks Pamela Zave, AT&T Labs Research FURTHER GENERAL INFORMATION http://www.research.att.com/conf/ipts2000 _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon May 15 17:14:27 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10165 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D5544391; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from dns.ikv.de (unknown [193.158.64.250]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0344338; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartofgold by dns.ikv.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with SMTP id OAA31738; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:13 +0200 From: magedanz@ikv.de Reply-To: To: , , , , Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:21 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Subject: [PINT] Final IN/IP Convergence CFP Reminder Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ladies and Gentlemen! Sorry in case you receive multiple copies of this emmail, which means your are very active ;-) Computer Networks Journal plans to publish in February 2001 a special issue on "Voice / Data Integration - A Snapshot of Intelligent Network and Interent Convergence". Guest editors: T. Magedanz (IKV++) and M. Smirnov (GMD FOKUS) Deadline for submission is June 5th, 2000!!! Maybe a good candidate for disseminating your results! For more infos look at: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/events/IN-Internet/ Best regards, Thomas Magedanz (magedanz@ikv.de) IKV++ GmbH, Bernburger Str. 24-25, D-10963 Berlin, Germany _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu May 25 18:35:10 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA22085 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDA444336; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E005844370 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Thu May 25 18:27:01 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 2C9A644344; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AF444341 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 5F2A052C4; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from hotair.hobl.lucent.com (hotair.hobl.lucent.com [199.118.135.2]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 198B652B6; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bell-labs.com by hotair.hobl.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id SAA24821; Thu, 25 May 2000 18:13:34 -0400 Message-ID: <392DA58C.4EA2AFFE@bell-labs.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 18:13:32 -0400 From: faynberg@bell-labs.com Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pint , SPIRITSList Cc: sob@harvard.edu, oran@cisco.com X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PINT] Jolly Good! Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Members of PINT, lift your glasses! Members of SPIRITS, lift your sniffers! I am delighted to announce that our esteemed editor, Hui-Lan Lu, has become a Bell Labs Fellow today. This is the highest award given in Bell Labs for singular scientific and technical contribution (of which Hui-Lan has had a long record, starting with Mathematical Programming and parallel algorithms, continuing with languages and compilers, and finishing with (actually far from finishing) Intelligent Network and Multimedia. (Three examples of other Bell Labs Fellows are Bellovin, Thompson, and Ritchie.) So, actually, put down your glasses, or snifters, or whatever, and get the Champagne flutes! Let us celebrate! Igor _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri May 26 22:15:57 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA00351 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A2D44376; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CF01D44342 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Fri May 26 19:04:03 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 51D3F44344; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011444341 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id D9CA652C4; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from hotair.hobl.lucent.com (hotair.hobl.lucent.com [199.118.135.2]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0708E52AB for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bell-labs.com by hotair.hobl.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id SAA21442; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <392EFFC6.19403D8A@bell-labs.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:50:46 -0400 From: faynberg@bell-labs.com Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sob@harvard.edu Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, smb@research.att.com, mankin@east.isi.edu, vern@aciri.org, pint X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PINT] Submission of the PINT MIB draft to Proposed Standard Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, According to Section 7.5 of RFC 2418, the PINT chairmen are submitting the I-D 'draft-ietf-pint-mib-01.txt' (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pint-mib-01.txt) for the IESG consideration on the subject of approval as a Proposed Standard. This draft has been a working item in the PINT charter, has undergone a month-long WG Last Call, and reflects the consensus of the PINT WG. The synopsis of the draft is attached. With best regards, Steve Bellovin Igor Faynberg ATTACHMENT > PINT Working Group Murali Krishnaswamy > Internet Draft Dan Romascanu > Lucent Technologies > > Expires October 2000 25 April 2000 > > > > > Management Information Base for the PINT Services Architecture > > > > ... > This document defines a MIB which contains the elements for > monitoring the performance of a PINT based service. The MIB consists > of details of the four basic PINT services and their performance > statistics measured under various criteria. > > It is not the purpose of this MIB to enable management of the PINT > networking elements. We are concerned only with the PINT specific > performance parameters. While it is understood that PINT service > performance is closely related to host and network performance, they > are not addressed here. > _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint From pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Wed May 31 16:19:36 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA23711 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0341044336; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: pint@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7D64438C for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 14:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06560; Tue, 30 May 2000 14:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200005301832.OAA06560@ietf.org> To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: pint@lists.bell-labs.com From: The IESG Reply-To: iesg@ietf.org Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:32:51 -0400 Subject: [PINT] Last Call: Management Information Base for the PINT Services Architecture to Proposed Standard Sender: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: pint-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF PINT Mailing List X-BeenThere: pint@lists.bell-labs.com The IESG has received a request from the PSTN and Internet Internetworking Working Group to consider Management Information Base for the PINT Services Architecture as a Proposed Standard. The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by June 13, 2000. Files can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pint-mib-01.txt _______________________________________________ PINT mailing list PINT@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/pint