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[Please accept our apologies for multiple copies of this call.]

-------------  FINAL CALL FOR PARTICIPATION  ---------------

       IP TELECOM SERVICES WORKSHOP 2000 (IPTS 2000)

                    co-located with
             Fall 2000 Voice on the Net (VON)

                     organized by
                  AT&T Labs Research
                      pulver.com

         Cobb Galleria, Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A
                  September 11, 2000

         http://www.research.att.com/conf/ipts2000/

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IPTS 2000 is a new workshop dedicated to the important, emerging field of IP
Telecom Services research.

In contrast to the services available on the PSTN, a new world of telecom
services is possible on an IP-based infrastructure. This world presents new
challenges for service development, deployment and management. This one-day
workshop will serve as a forum for the dissemination of research relating to
these challenges.

We have put together an excellent technical program that includes 7 original
research papers, two distinguished invited speakers, and a round table
discussion. We look forward to the participation from you and your colleagues in
the telecom industry and the research community. Registration is now open at
http://pulver.com/ipts2000/register.html.

TECHNICAL PROGRAM

Keynote Speaker - Eric Sumner
President and CEO of dynamicsoft 
"The End of Telephony"

Invited Speaker - Joe Rinde
AT&T Labs 
"Why Service?  What Services?" 

DFC as the basis for ECLIPSE, an IP communications software platform 
Greg Bond, Eric Cheung, Andrew Forrest, Michael Jackson, Hal
Purdy, Chris Ramming, and Pamela Zave 
AT&T Labs Research 

Experimenting with PARLAY in a SIP Environment: Early Results 
Stephane Desrochers, Roch H. Glitho, Kindy Sylla 
Ericsson Research Canada 

Approach For Services in Converged Networks 
Sanjiv Kapur, Rakesh Vij 
Hughes Software Systems 

Unified Messaging using SIP and RTSP 
Kundan Singh and Henning Schulzrinne 
Columbia University 

SPHINX: A Study in Convergent Telephony and Advanced Scenarios for H.323-SIP
Interoperation
Kumar V. Vemuri 
Lucent Technologies 

Where Should Services Reside in Internet Telephony Systems? 
Xiaotao Wu and Henning Schulzrinne 
Columbia University 

A Transformation Approach for Service Creation in a Hybrid IP-IN Network
Cyril Carrez, Elie Najm, Alexandre Tauveron 
Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecom 

Roundtable Discussion - topic to be announced


REGISTRATION

IPTS 2000 will be held on September 11, 2000 in Atlanta, Georgia. The workshop
will be co-located with Fall 2000 Voice on the Net (VON). Registration details
for IPTS 2000 can be found at http://www.research.att.com/conf/ipts2000. Hotel
information can be found at http://www.pulver.com/von/hotel.html. Registration
for IPTS 2000 does not include registration for Fall 2000 VON. Registration
details for Fall 2000 VON can be found at http://pulver.com/von.

IPTS 2000 is organized by AT&T Labs Research (http://www.research.att.com) and
pulver.com (http://pulver.com).


WORKSHOP CO-CHAIRS

Greg Bond, AT&T Labs Research
Eric Cheung, AT&T Labs Research

PROGRAM COMMITTEE

Mauricio Arango, Sun Microsystems Labs
Joanne Atlee, University of Waterloo
Ralph Blumenthal, Daewoo Telecom
Scott Hoffpauir, BroadSoft
Evan Magill, University of Strathclyde
Peter Mataga, dynamicsoft
Bernie Pagurek, Carleton University
Jonathan Rosenberg, dynamicsoft
Henning Schulzrinne, Columbia University
Greg Utas, Nortel Networks
Pamela Zave, AT&T Labs Research


FURTHER GENERAL INFORMATION

http://www.research.att.com/conf/ipts2000



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Ladies and Gentlemen:

As required by the IESG guidance on the moderation of IETF Working Group Mailing
Lists (please see attached), I am posting the following PINT list moderation
statement:

1) Any message containing a non-text attachment is rejected 

2) Any obious spam message is rejected

3) To maintain the above policy, all messages from non-subscribers (i.e., those
who are not subscribed to the PINT list) need a manual approval; that may result
in a delay, but, again, this delay affects only messages from non-subscribers.

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The third of three


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  IESG guidance on the moderation of IETF Working Group Mailing Lists

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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Ladies and Gentlemen:

Attached is the announcement for Version 3 of the PINT MIB I-D, which is
currently undergoing the Last Call on the subject of becoming the Proposed
Standard. 

The present version of the draft, prepared and submitted by Dan Romascanu, has
fixed a number of problems (including compilation errors), which were identified
and kindly communicated to us by Bert Wijnen.

Presently, there is only one known remaining problem--pointed to us by Scott
Bradner--the hyphenation. This will be fixed in the next version, which will be
produced following the MIB Doctors' review.

With many thanks to the authors and reviewers,

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dan Romascanu 
> Sent:	Thu September 07 2000 19:36
> To:	'Igor Faynberg'; pint; iesg@ietf.org
> Subject:	RE: [PINT] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pint-mib-03.txt]
> 
> Igor & all,
> 
> It is version 04 (draft-ietf-pint-mib-04.txt) submitted yesterday that is
> fixing all the problems. Please dis-consider version 03, and wait for a
> couple of days until version 04 shows up in the repositories.
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Igor Faynberg [SMTP:faynberg@bell-labs.com]
> 	Sent:	Thu September 07 2000 0:13
> 	To:	pint; iesg@ietf.org
> 	Subject:	[PINT] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pint-mib-03.txt]
> 	Importance:	High
> 
> 	Ladies and Gentlemen:
> 
> 	Attached is the announcement for Version 3 of the PINT MIB I-D,
> which is
> 	currently undergoing the Last Call on the subject of becoming the
> Proposed
> 	Standard. 
> 
> 	The present version of the draft, prepared and submitted by Dan
> Romascanu, has
> 	fixed a number of problems (including compilation errors), which
> were identified
> 	and kindly communicated to us by Bert Wijnen.
> 
> 	Presently, there is only one known remaining problem--pointed to us
> by Scott
> 	Bradner--the hyphenation. This will be fixed in the next version,
> which will be
> 	produced following the MIB Doctors' review.
> 
> 	With many thanks to the authors and reviewers,
> 
> 	Igor & Steve << Message: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pint-mib-03.txt >> 

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Hi Stephane!

You might be interested in my thesis I wrote last summer about PINT:
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> Hello all,
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> I'm a student at the university of Namur (Belgium - Europa) and i'm
> searching for documentations over pint. I would like to have a conscice
> and accessible overview of pint.
> If you know books, it's ok !
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>             Many thanks and good day to all!
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Dear PINTers:

As the PINT MIB draft is nearing its becoming an RFC, we ought to focus
on what is to become of PINT.  We do have one proposal for a set of
building blocks in support of conferencing, and more things are being
discussed in SPIRITS (i.e., PINT requirements) that must be done
SOMEWHERE in order to support SPIRITS.

Now SOMEHWHERE may mean another group (possibly, a new one) or PINT
re-chartered. In a few weeks, Steve and I will need to send our
recommendations to ADs, who will make their respective decisions.

So, Steve and I are inviting PINT I_Ds with the proposals for the new
items. Clearly, in order to be accepted, they ought to be in line with
those needs of PINT and SPIRITS that have not been fulfilled within the
present (intentionally limited) charter.

With best regards,

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