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Ed Ellesson wrote, On 07/16/2002 10:00 PM:
[snip]

>
>Our schedule calls for posting a new version of the draft by the end of
>July, and then we plan to resubmit that to the IESG for consideration for
>advancement to proposed standard.  Bob Moore and I will be doing the
>editing.  
>

What's the latest?

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Once again, I'm going to ask:
What is going on here? It seems like the founders of this project have
either
a) taken the summer off
b) moved on to other, more interesting standards

If this is the case, would anyone be interested in allowing fresh blood into
this group to get the car back on the track? Otherwise, what other options
are available to people who are trying to implement PCIM, and/or extend its
functionality? And those who are waiting for acceptance from IETF before
implementing?

Any response at all would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
David McTavish



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry S. Bartz [mailto:lbartz@parnelli.indy.cr.irs.gov]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Ed Ellesson
Cc: 'policy@ietf.org'; remoore@us.ibm.com
Subject: Wassup? Re: [Policy] Policy LDAP Schema


Ed Ellesson wrote, On 07/16/2002 10:00 PM:
[snip]

>
>Our schedule calls for posting a new version of the draft by the end of
>July, and then we plan to resubmit that to the IESG for consideration for
>advancement to proposed standard.  Bob Moore and I will be doing the
>editing.  
>

What's the latest?

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Larry,  

I've got the token.  I'm working on it and I have the time to work on it
now.  When I am done, I need to consult with Bob Moore and the other
authors.  Bob sent me the updated draft just before he went on
vacation.  He's back now.  I hope to have this to the co-authors for
review by the end of this week.   

Ed Ellesson
ellesson@mindspring.com  (please note new email address)

On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 14:13, Larry S. Bartz wrote:
> Ed Ellesson wrote, On 07/16/2002 10:00 PM:
> [snip]
> 
> >
> >Our schedule calls for posting a new version of the draft by the end of
> >July, and then we plan to resubmit that to the IESG for consideration for
> >advancement to proposed standard.  Bob Moore and I will be doing the
> >editing.  
> >
> 
> What's the latest?
> 
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My understanding (as AD) is that the responsible people
are working an a (hopefully last) revision to hammer out
some small details.

Thanks,
Bert 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David McTavish [mailto:dmctavish@SANDVINE.com]
> Sent: maandag 12 augustus 2002 20:19
> To: 'Larry S. Bartz'; Ed Ellesson
> Cc: 'policy@ietf.org'; remoore@us.ibm.com
> Subject: RE: Wassup? Re: [Policy] Policy LDAP Schema
> 
> 
> Once again, I'm going to ask:
> What is going on here? It seems like the founders of this project have
> either
> a) taken the summer off
> b) moved on to other, more interesting standards
> 
> If this is the case, would anyone be interested in allowing 
> fresh blood into
> this group to get the car back on the track? Otherwise, what 
> other options
> are available to people who are trying to implement PCIM, 
> and/or extend its
> functionality? And those who are waiting for acceptance from 
> IETF before
> implementing?
> 
> Any response at all would be greatly appreciated.
> Regards,
> David McTavish
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry S. Bartz [mailto:lbartz@parnelli.indy.cr.irs.gov]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:14 PM
> To: Ed Ellesson
> Cc: 'policy@ietf.org'; remoore@us.ibm.com
> Subject: Wassup? Re: [Policy] Policy LDAP Schema
> 
> 
> Ed Ellesson wrote, On 07/16/2002 10:00 PM:
> [snip]
> 
> >
> >Our schedule calls for posting a new version of the draft by 
> the end of
> >July, and then we plan to resubmit that to the IESG for 
> consideration for
> >advancement to proposed standard.  Bob Moore and I will be doing the
> >editing.  
> >
> 
> What's the latest?
> 
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Subject: RE: Wassup? Re: [Policy] Policy LDAP Schema
From: Ed Ellesson <ellesson@mindspring.com>
To: David McTavish <dmctavish@sandvine.com>
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David, 

Sorry for the delay. I have the editing token, and need to consult with
the other authors once I am done with my part.  I should have that done
by the end of this week.  

Regarding the progress in the working group, we need to have this PCLS
mapping of the basic model done before we can extend it in any way,
either to be more flexible or to apply it to technical domain-specific
applications.  

Once we have the PCLS moving forward for approval by the IESG, let's
talk about how to get the rest of the deliverables done that are on the
working group's plate.  New blood is certainly worth considering, in my
opinion.    

Ed Ellesson
ellesson@mindspring.com  (please note new email address)


On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 14:18, David McTavish wrote:
> Once again, I'm going to ask:
> What is going on here? It seems like the founders of this project have
> either
> a) taken the summer off
> b) moved on to other, more interesting standards
> 
> If this is the case, would anyone be interested in allowing fresh blood into
> this group to get the car back on the track? Otherwise, what other options
> are available to people who are trying to implement PCIM, and/or extend its
> functionality? And those who are waiting for acceptance from IETF before
> implementing?
> 
> Any response at all would be greatly appreciated.
> Regards,
> David McTavish
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry S. Bartz [mailto:lbartz@parnelli.indy.cr.irs.gov]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:14 PM
> To: Ed Ellesson
> Cc: 'policy@ietf.org'; remoore@us.ibm.com
> Subject: Wassup? Re: [Policy] Policy LDAP Schema
> 
> 
> Ed Ellesson wrote, On 07/16/2002 10:00 PM:
> [snip]
> 
> >
> >Our schedule calls for posting a new version of the draft by the end of
> >July, and then we plan to resubmit that to the IESG for consideration for
> >advancement to proposed standard.  Bob Moore and I will be doing the
> >editing.  
> >
> 
> What's the latest?
> 
> -- 
> --
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Just a note to update the group on the PCLS draft status:

The co-authors have a new version to review as of today.  I am hoping
any final comments from the co-authors will be reviewed and consolidated
within a week, so we can post it to the Internet Drafts repository, and
then proceed again with the request to advance it to proposed standard
status. 

The changes are mostly from the comments received as a result of IESG
review.  I don't think any of the changes will require another last
call, but I need to discuss that with Bert, once we have a version that
the co-authors have reviewed and agreed upon. 

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This is an fyi message on the status of the PCLS draft.  

I have submitted a revised and reformatted PCLS draft (-15) to the
internet-drafts repository.  As soon as it has been posted, I will send
another notice to this mailing list letting people know that it is
available. 

After it is posted, I will also be sending a note to Bert, our AD,
letting him know that we believe we have addressed the issues coming out
of the last IESG review and that we wish to re-submit this latest draft
for approval as a proposed standard.   

Ed Ellesson



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