From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 30 12:07:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pppext-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F43A3A6839; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:07:05 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2443A6839 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:07:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6EEwnxavj2P for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6653A67CF for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E103219870C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:06:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFA619865D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:06:42 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <49835D8D.60304@piuha.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:05:33 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pppext@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: [Pppext] test X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Please ignore. 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(We're having problems sending to the list.) _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 30 12:54:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pppext-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEDB3A68F6; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:54:28 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D763A68F6 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:54:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ejwy3kfKbqRi for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA6E3A6878 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4C91986FA; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:54:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5B7198670; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:54:05 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <498368A8.5010708@piuha.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:52:56 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pppext@ietf.org References: <18788.45812.377676.517210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> In-Reply-To: <18788.45812.377676.517210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: James Carlson Subject: [Pppext] FW: IPR notice [resend] X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org For some reason James has been having problems getting his message through, but he wanted to send the below message for information. Sorry for the delay in getting this out, we did not realize the message had gone missing. Jari From: James Carlson Subject: IPR notice [resend] Date: 01/07/2009 03:49 PM (An earlier copy of this message seems not to have gone through properly; I'm resending just once.) I received the following notice from the IETF Secretariat, and as it appears to involve an RFC that is a working group product, I'm forwarding the notice to the list. Subject: Posting of IPR Disclosure From: IETF Secretariat Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:36:08 -0800 (PST) To: wsimpson@greendragon.com CC: jari.arkko@piuha.net, townsley@cisco.com, James.D.Carlson@Sun.COM Dear William Simpson: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "PPP Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol (CHAP)" (RFC1994) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2008-12-23 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement of IPR related to RFC 1994." The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Sat Jan 31 02:50:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pppext-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A0D3A69F3; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:56 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939F93A6982; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v3miZuZ36sej; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917DF3A67B2; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so535939ele.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/H/LKkF0nZwu/UPtXBBcTWqmyndu9qRzcrX3MtpdhtA=; b=nqie1a5CaDeogpMwWFvI6FOQgnpoVEkwFUHiUmNOenrfg927LajK2HXOQ+KZ6/PuvY zHQQyIKS4gWQj8eqt5ZD1cPlkIeS3vBtG/Z7t0GXXWeTyXPsIhFV8aEvygxLOAifmzFq 1FmvZndnFTF97rNJ6035lMnSdJA3Z+ddavYwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eftEv7WdApMG7b1WFRWck7HVMiTyT6tswOSCliXQspYOtAYJ7rK7o3w3hvuNTsliJ3 +sLo3gtmqrjAsjrj5C/W1X6Z6vOIZfdPhRQ9b3hw+Yol+CnOnplwE5J1CqrCHXWsSm4Z bpy2BzmxvPZ2XoYnzJELGKXab74RMgsc6z4ao= Received: by 10.64.148.9 with SMTP id v9mr1364907qbd.117.1233399034022; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Wastrel.local (c-68-40-192-214.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.192.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s35sm3247825qbs.13.2009.01.31.02.50.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:50:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49842CF8.800@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:50:32 -0500 From: William Allen Simpson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pppext@ietf.org References: <18788.45812.377676.517210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <498368A8.5010708@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <498368A8.5010708@piuha.net> Cc: ietf-ipr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pppext] FW: IPR notice [resend] X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Jari Arkko wrote: > Subject: Posting of IPR Disclosure > From: IETF Secretariat > Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:36:08 -0800 (PST) > To: wsimpson@greendragon.com ... > > Dear William Simpson: > > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "PPP Challenge > Handshake > Authentication Protocol (CHAP)" (RFC1994) was submitted to the IETF > Secretariat > on 2008-12-23 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual > Property > Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi). The > title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement of IPR related to > RFC 1994." > I wish the secretariate did a better job of handling changes of address, by my later published RFCs.... My greendragon account was closed years ago. Hopefully, they're not still sending to morningstar, or telebit, or stanford, or cornell, or umich, or oakland, or msu -- and you'd think they'd notice the bounces, and resend to a more current address! Anyway, at the current time, the referenced listing says: 2008-12-23 1060 Juniper's Statement of IPR related to RFC 1994 This IPR disclosure was removed at the request of the submitter. I have no idea whatever this might have been, as the CHAP protocol concept and various implementations go back to the '70s! _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Sat Jan 31 06:56:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pppext-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4496E3A69A9; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:56:11 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5B3A69A9; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:56:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.385 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.385 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.214, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09NLJ-QpIlLe; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43BD3A672F; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU137-W9 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:55:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [24.16.117.112] From: Bernard Aboba To: , Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:55:49 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49842CF8.800@gmail.com> References: <18788.45812.377676.517210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <498368A8.5010708@piuha.net> <49842CF8.800@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2009 14:55:49.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[01624860:01C983B4] Cc: ietf-ipr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pppext] FW: IPR notice [resend] X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org The IPR declaration looks like it has been removed at the request of the original sender. ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:50:32 -0500 > From: william.allen.simpson@gmail.com > To: pppext@ietf.org > CC: ietf-ipr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pppext] FW: IPR notice [resend] > > Jari Arkko wrote: >> Subject: Posting of IPR Disclosure >> From: IETF Secretariat >> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:36:08 -0800 (PST) >> To: wsimpson@greendragon.com ... >> >> Dear William Simpson: >> >> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "PPP Challenge >> Handshake >> Authentication Protocol (CHAP)" (RFC1994) was submitted to the IETF >> Secretariat >> on 2008-12-23 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual >> Property >> Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi). The >> title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement of IPR related to >> RFC 1994." >> > I wish the secretariate did a better job of handling changes of address, by > my later published RFCs.... My greendragon account was closed years ago. > Hopefully, they're not still sending to morningstar, or telebit, or stanford, > or cornell, or umich, or oakland, or msu -- and you'd think they'd notice the > bounces, and resend to a more current address! > > Anyway, at the current time, the referenced listing says: > > 2008-12-23 1060 Juniper's Statement of IPR related to RFC 1994 > This IPR disclosure was removed at the request of the submitter. > > I have no idea whatever this might have been, as the CHAP protocol concept > and various implementations go back to the '70s! > _______________________________________________ > Pppext mailing list > Pppext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Sat Jan 31 11:40:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pppext-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD303A695B; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:40:07 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1886C3A682D; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:40:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.742 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.742 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.143, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i1id74BAsrw0; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2057C3A67DA; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46F4198710; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:39:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8949919865D; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:39:43 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4984A8BA.6070106@piuha.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:38:34 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernard Aboba References: <18788.45812.377676.517210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <498368A8.5010708@piuha.net> <49842CF8.800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: pppext@ietf.org, ietf-ipr@ietf.org, william.allen.simpson@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Pppext] FW: IPR notice [resend] X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Bernard, > The IPR declaration looks like it has been removed at the request of the original sender. > Interesting. I can still see the declaration listed in my search results, but when I click on the link, it says page not found. I think the user interface needs some work... Anyway, for background I sent some feedback to the IPR holders and told them that just looking at IETF history this particular protocol seemed to go back at least 18 years and probably more -- I-D archives and Google ran out of steam at that point -- and suggested that the declaration might be an error. If the declaration has indeed been pulled by the original sender, then maybe it is an indication that they no longer believe they have IPR on RFC 1994? Jari _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext