From fsolensky@juniper.net Mon Jun 8 12:32:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9673A6991 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mK2qo7X-Z2II for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og102.obsmtp.com (exprod7og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.157]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D4D3A682D for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob102.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSi1nSY/37j8LJIDsHR7b+iyg0kYGV2e5@postini.com; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:32:29 PDT Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:27:15 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:27:14 -0400 From: Frank Solensky To: Mark Townsley , "pppext@ietf.org" , "draft-bberry-rfc4938bis@tools.ietf.org" Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:27:13 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Pppext] Review of draft-bberry-rfc4938bis-00.txt Thread-Index: AclF2DSEDr+LkjljR2m1baxNbV2MtiilTPLg Message-ID: <48A3702B6745EC48BA1F7EBE2184707496C3FF9B78@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> References: <491C9E43.3090406@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <491C9E43.3090406@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "michael.d.adams@l-3.com" , "bberry@cisco.com" Subject: Re: [Pppext] Review of draft-bberry-rfc4938bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:32:24 -0000 Sorry for the last message but it just came to my attention that there's on= e aspect of the draft that should be made more clear. The way I read the d= raft and its predecessor, the support for PADG/C messages and PADQ messages= are orthogonal to each other. That is, if the exchange of PADR/S messages= when the session is first established does not include the Credit and Cred= it Scale TLVs indicating PADG/C support, each side can still send PADQs. I= s this a correct interpretation? Either way: should this be explicitly cal= led out? From root@core3.amsl.com Tue Jun 9 15:30:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pppext@ietf.org Delivered-To: pppext@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 52A783A69A2; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: IESG Secretary To: ietf-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090609223001.52A783A69A2@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pppext@ietf.org, james.d.carlson@sun.com Subject: [Pppext] WG Action: RECHARTER: Point-to-Point Protocol Extensions (pppext) X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: iesg@ietf.org List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:30:01 -0000 The Point-to-Point Protocol Extensions (pppext) working group in the Internet Area of the IETF has been rechartered. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the working group Chairs. Point-to-Point Protocol Extensions (pppext) -------------------------------------------- Last Modified: 2009-05-29 Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/pppext Chair(s): James Carlson Internet Area Director(s): Ralph Droms Jari Arkko Internet Area Advisor: Jari Arkko Mailing Lists: General Discussion: pppext@ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext In Body: subscribe Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pppext/index.html Description of Working Group: The Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP, RFC 1661) is a mature protocol with a large number of subprotocols, encapsulations and other extensions. The PPPEXT working group exists to provide a forum for asking clarifications about the existing specifications and to defend against enhancements of questionable value. The group is not expected to create new specifications, and if a need for such work comes up, a recharter is required. The group may, however, advance existing specifications to the next level in the standards track, if a need for that comes up. Similarly, the group may classify existing specifications as Historic where this is appropriate. Goals and Milestones: Done Advance SDL draft to Experimental Done Add VLAN support to BCP (RFC 1638) and recycle at Proposed Standard