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Hello,
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precis meeting. =20
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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	Title           : Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings =
Representing Usernames and Passwords
	Author(s)       : Peter Saint-Andre
                          Alexey Melnikov
	Filename        : draft-ietf-precis-saslprepbis-04.txt
	Pages           : 14
	Date            : 2013-08-04

Abstract:
   This document describes how to handle Unicode strings representing
   usernames and passwords.  This profile is intended to be used by
   protocols that exchange or otherwise make use of usernames and
   passwords.  This document obsoletes RFC 4013.


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Changes to address discussion in the WG session on Friday. I did this
work in airports and on planes today, so I would not be surprised if the
text isn't perfect...

On 8/4/13 6:04 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title           : Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Representing Usernames and Passwords
> 	Author(s)       : Peter Saint-Andre
>                           Alexey Melnikov
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-precis-saslprepbis-04.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2013-08-04
> 
> Abstract:
>    This document describes how to handle Unicode strings representing
>    usernames and passwords.  This profile is intended to be used by
>    protocols that exchange or otherwise make use of usernames and
>    passwords.  This document obsoletes RFC 4013.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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> 
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	Title           : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes
	Author(s)       : Yoshiro YONEYA
                          Takahiro Nemoto
	Filename        : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-03.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2013-08-06

Abstract:
   The framework for preparation and comparison of internationalized
   strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of strings for preparation
   and comparison.  In the framework, case mapping is defined because
   many protocols handle case-sensitive or case-insensitive string
   comparison and therefore preparation of the string is mandatory.  As
   described in the mapping for Internationalized Domain Names in
   Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS problem statement, mappings for
   internationalized strings are not limited to case, but also width
   mapping and mapping of delimiters and other specials can be taken
   into consideration.  This document provides guidelines for authors of
   protocol profiles of the PRECIS framework and describes several
   mappings that can be applied between receiving user input and passing
   permitted code points to internationalized protocols.  The mappings
   described here are expected to be applied as Additional mapping in the
   PRECIS framework.


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Dear all,

*** This is advance notice.  This is not call for WGLC yet. ***

As we discussed at Berlin, we are going to start WG Last Call for two 
documents, framework and mappings, at the end of August.  When framework 
table comparison work has finished and framework document get ready, 
we will start WG Last Call.

Of course, comments to those documents in advance are always welcome.

Regards,

Marc & Yoneya, co-chairs


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Dear Addison,

Thank you for raising this.  Very timely, precis' core specification, 
framework (draft-ietf-precis-framework) begun 2 weeks WG LC yesterday, 
in conjunction with its related document (draft-ietf-precis-mappings).
<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/precis/current/msg00503.html>
<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/precis/current/msg00504.html>

Would you please review these documents and give us comments during 
the WG LC term?  Especially thoughts about applicability of the PRECIS 
framework to identifiers in CharMod normalization are very welcome.

Regards,

-- 
Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:40:09 +0000 "Phillips, Addison" <addison@lab126.com> wrote:

> Hello Precis working group,
> 
> I'm writing on behalf of the W3C Internationalization WG [1]. We've noticed that the work you're doing in your various internet-drafts is closely related to work we are (and have historically been) doing in the Character Model. In particular, we are working on an update to our Normalization and string matching document [2][3].
> 
> We think it would make sense if the PRECIS and CharMod recommendations were consistent in what they require/recommend. How can we best coordinate? 
> 
> Regards (for W3C I18N),
> 
> Addison
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/International/
> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/244
> [2] New Draft: http://www.w3.org/International/docs/charmod-norm/
> [3] Historical: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-charmod-norm-20120501/
> [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/ 
> 
> 
> Addison Phillips
> Globalization Architect (Amazon Lab126)
> Chair (W3C I18N WG)
> 
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture.
> 
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