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        Title           : Preparation and Comparison of Nicknames
        Author          : Peter Saint-Andre
	Filename        : draft-ietf-precis-nickname-09.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2014-01-23

Abstract:
   This document describes how to prepare and compare Unicode strings
   representing nicknames, primarily for use within textual chatrooms.
   This profile is intended to be used by messaging and text
   conferencing technologies such as the Extensible Messaging and
   Presence Protocol (XMPP), the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP),
   and Centralized Conferencing (XCON).


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Just updating the references...

On 01/23/2014 11:58 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories. This draft is a work item of the Preparation and
> Comparison of Internationalized Strings Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> Title           : Preparation and Comparison of Nicknames Author
> : Peter Saint-Andre Filename        :
> draft-ietf-precis-nickname-09.txt Pages           : 9 Date
> : 2014-01-23
> 
> Abstract: This document describes how to prepare and compare
> Unicode strings representing nicknames, primarily for use within
> textual chatrooms. This profile is intended to be used by messaging
> and text conferencing technologies such as the Extensible Messaging
> and Presence Protocol (XMPP), the Message Session Relay Protocol
> (MSRP), and Centralized Conferencing (XCON).
> 
> 
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-nickname/
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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        Title           : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes
        Authors         : Yoshiro YONEYA
                          Takahiro Nemoto
	Filename        : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-06.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2014-01-24

Abstract:
   The framework for preparation and comparison of internationalized
   strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of strings for preparation
   and comparison.  Case mapping is defined because many protocols
   perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison and so
   preparation of the string is mandatory.  The Internationalized Domain
   Names in Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS problem statement
   describes mappings for internationalized strings that are not limited
   to case, but include width mapping and mapping of delimiters and
   other specials that can be taken into consideration.  This document
   provides guidelines for authors of protocol profiles of the PRECIS
   framework and describes several mappings that can be applied between
   receiving user input and passing permitted code points to
   internationalized protocols.  The mappings described here are
   expected to be applied as an additional mapping in the PRECIS
   framework.


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Dear all,

Yoneya-san and I submitted new version of precis mappings document.=20
We changed the definition of local case mapping and
added a new open issue to reflect comments in IETF88.
Please read and give your comments/suggestions.

Regards,

Nemo

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>        Title           : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes
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>   The framework for preparation and comparison of internationalized
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>   perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison and so
>   preparation of the string is mandatory.  The Internationalized =
Domain
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>   describes mappings for internationalized strings that are not =
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>   to case, but include width mapping and mapping of delimiters and
>   other specials that can be taken into consideration.  This document
>   provides guidelines for authors of protocol profiles of the PRECIS
>   framework and describes several mappings that can be applied between
>   receiving user input and passing permitted code points to
>   internationalized protocols.  The mappings described here are
>   expected to be applied as an additional mapping in the PRECIS
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Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Working Group of =
the IETF.<br><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Mapping =
characters for PRECIS classes<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Authors =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Yoshiro YONEYA<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
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p;Takahiro Nemoto<br><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
draft-ietf-precis-mappings-06.txt<br><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
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</span>Date =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
2014-01-24<br><br>Abstract:<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;The framework for =
preparation and comparison of internationalized<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;strings =
("PRECIS") defines several classes of strings for preparation<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;and comparison. &nbsp;Case mapping is defined because many =
protocols<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive =
string comparison and so<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;preparation of the string is =
mandatory. &nbsp;The Internationalized Domain<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;Names in =
Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS problem statement<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;describes mappings for internationalized strings that are =
not limited<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;to case, but include width mapping and =
mapping of delimiters and<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;other specials that can be =
taken into consideration. &nbsp;This document<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;provides =
guidelines for authors of protocol profiles of the PRECIS<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;framework and describes several mappings that can be applied =
between<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;receiving user input and passing permitted code =
points to<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;internationalized protocols. &nbsp;The =
mappings described here are<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;expected to be applied as an =
additional mapping in the PRECIS<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;framework.<br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for =
this draft is:<br><a =
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><br><br>Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time =
of submission<br>until the htmlized version and diff are available at =
tools.ietf.org.<br><br>Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous =
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On 01/24/2014 06:02 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Yoneya-san and I submitted new version of precis mappings document.
> 
Thank you for updating the document!

> We changed the definition of local case mapping and

That is better, thanks. If I understand your text correctly, we might
want to say very clearly that a PRECIS profile needs to either use
case mapping or use local case mapping, but that it can't use both
(i.e., local case mapping is an alternative to case mapping, not
something additional on top of case mapping, since the local case
mapping rule will apply normal case mapping if there is no
locale-specific mapping).

> added a new open issue to reflect comments in IETF88.

I think it is fine to leave handling of final sigma up to Unicode, and
to not define a new table. If we decide to take that course, you might
include one or two examples (I provided some in a previous posting to
this list).

Peter

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Hi Peter-san,

Thank you for your quick reply.
Comments are in line.

On 2014/01/24, at 22:57, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:

> Signed PGP part
> On 01/24/2014 06:02 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Yoneya-san and I submitted new version of precis mappings document.
> >
> Thank you for updating the document!
>=20
> > We changed the definition of local case mapping and
>=20
> That is better, thanks. If I understand your text correctly, we might
> want to say very clearly that a PRECIS profile needs to either use
> case mapping or use local case mapping, but that it can't use both
> (i.e., local case mapping is an alternative to case mapping, not
> something additional on top of case mapping, since the local case
> mapping rule will apply normal case mapping if there is no
> locale-specific mapping).

That's exactly right. I agree with what you said,  thanks.=20

>=20
> > added a new open issue to reflect comments in IETF88.
>=20
> I think it is fine to leave handling of final sigma up to Unicode, and
> to not define a new table. If we decide to take that course, you might
> include one or two examples (I provided some in a previous posting to
> this list).

Thank you. Considering the maintenance and preservation of the document,=20=

I think it would be better to leave the handling of final sigma up to =
Unicode.=20
I will modify the mappings document to include an example.

Regards,

Nemo

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Peter-san,<br><br>Thank you for your quick reply.<br>Comments are in =
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wrote:<br>&gt; Dear all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Yoneya-san and I submitted new =
version of precis mappings document.<br>&gt;<br>Thank you for updating =
the document!<br><br>&gt; We changed the definition of local case =
mapping and<br><br>That is better, thanks. If I understand your text =
correctly, we might<br>want to say very clearly that a PRECIS profile =
needs to either use<br>case mapping or use local case mapping, but that =
it can't use both<br>(i.e., local case mapping is an alternative to case =
mapping, not<br>something additional on top of case mapping, since the =
local case<br>mapping rule will apply normal case mapping if there is =
no<br>locale-specific =
mapping).<br></div></fieldset></blockquote><br><div>That's exactly =
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comments in IETF88.<br><br>I think it is fine to leave handling of final =
sigma up to Unicode, and<br>to not define a new table. If we decide to =
take that course, you might<br>include one or two examples (I provided =
some in a previous posting to<br>this =
list).<br></div></fieldset></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you. =
Considering the maintenance and preservation of the =
document,&nbsp;</div><div><div>I think it would be better to leave the =
handling of final sigma up to Unicode.&nbsp;</div><div>I will modify the =
mappings document to include an =
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