From nobody Mon Jul 6 03:07:11 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E941AC432; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 03:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qq-6pZxwemv3; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 03:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709501ACCD8; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 03:07:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150706100706.11575.52853.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 03:07:06 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: precis@ietf.org Subject: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt X-BeenThere: precis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 10:07:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Working Group of the IETF. Title : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes Authors : Yoshiro YONEYA Takahiro Nemoto Filename : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2015-07-06 Abstract: The framework for preparation, enforcement, and comparison of internationalized strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of strings for use in application protocols. Because many protocols perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison, it necessary to define methods for case mapping. In addition, both the Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS problem statement describe mappings for internationalized strings that are not limited to case, but include width mapping and mapping of delimiters and other special characters that can be taken into consideration. This document provides guidelines for designers of PRECIS profiles and describes several mappings that can be applied between receiving user input and passing permitted code points to internationalized protocols. In particular, this document describes both locale-dependent and context-depending case mappings as well as additional mappings for delimiters and special characters. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Jul 7 00:24:10 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16341A00DF for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ot1ZhWvbF86L for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [131.113.138.164]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E3F1A00BF for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [100.64.32.16] (unknown [133.2.56.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C86657FE00 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 16:24:05 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from t.nemo10@kmd.keio.ac.jp) From: Takahiro Nemoto Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4A2C53EA-C5F7-4E56-802E-AD2291A1C98C"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 16:23:56 +0900 References: <20150706100706.11575.52853.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: precis@ietf.org Message-Id: <10EE3CE0-71D4-4058-9810-F46D34AD1A5F@kmd.keio.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Subject: [precis] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt X-BeenThere: precis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:24:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4A2C53EA-C5F7-4E56-802E-AD2291A1C98C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear all,=20 Yoneya-san and I submitted the latest version of precis mappings = document. We modified the document to address feedback from Peter-san. Thank you = very much, Peter-san. Please let me know if you have any questions and comments. Your feedbacks will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Nemo > =E8=BB=A2=E9=80=81=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E3=83=A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB= =E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8=EF=BC=9A >=20 > =E5=B7=AE=E5=87=BA=E4=BA=BA: internet-drafts@ietf.org > =E4=BB=B6=E5=90=8D: [precis] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt > =E6=97=A5=E4=BB=98: 2015=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5 19:07:06 JST > =E5=AE=9B=E5=85=88: > CC: precis@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Preparation and Comparison of = Internationalized Strings Working Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes > Authors : Yoshiro YONEYA > Takahiro Nemoto > Filename : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt > Pages : 12 > Date : 2015-07-06 >=20 > Abstract: > The framework for preparation, enforcement, and comparison of > internationalized strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of > strings for use in application protocols. Because many protocols > perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison, it > necessary to define methods for case mapping. In addition, both the > Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS > problem statement describe mappings for internationalized strings > that are not limited to case, but include width mapping and mapping > of delimiters and other special characters that can be taken into > consideration. This document provides guidelines for designers of > PRECIS profiles and describes several mappings that can be applied > between receiving user input and passing permitted code points to > internationalized protocols. In particular, this document describes > both locale-dependent and context-depending case mappings as well as > additional mappings for delimiters and special characters. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > precis mailing list > precis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/precis --Apple-Mail=_4A2C53EA-C5F7-4E56-802E-AD2291A1C98C Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: precis@ietf.org References: <20150706100706.11575.52853.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <10EE3CE0-71D4-4058-9810-F46D34AD1A5F@kmd.keio.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <10EE3CE0-71D4-4058-9810-F46D34AD1A5F@kmd.keio.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [precis] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt X-BeenThere: precis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 15:27:57 -0000 Thanks, Nemo! Your changes look good to me. What do you think about my suggestion to change "local case mapping" to "alternative case mapping"? See here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/precis/t0NsOdHCp_V_zfgMamOqEW6vBMY I still feel that the word "local" might be confusing in several ways. Peter On 7/7/15 1:23 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrote: > Dear all, > > Yoneya-san and I submitted the latest version of precis mappings document. > We modified the document to address feedback from Peter-san. Thank you very much, Peter-san. > Please let me know if you have any questions and comments. > Your feedbacks will be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Nemo > >> 転送されたメッセージ： >> >> 差出人: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> 件名: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt >> 日付: 2015年7月6日 19:07:06 JST >> 宛先: >> CC: precis@ietf.org >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes >> Authors : Yoshiro YONEYA >> Takahiro Nemoto >> Filename : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt >> Pages : 12 >> Date : 2015-07-06 >> >> Abstract: >> The framework for preparation, enforcement, and comparison of >> internationalized strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of >> strings for use in application protocols. Because many protocols >> perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison, it >> necessary to define methods for case mapping. In addition, both the >> Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS >> problem statement describe mappings for internationalized strings >> that are not limited to case, but include width mapping and mapping >> of delimiters and other special characters that can be taken into >> consideration. This document provides guidelines for designers of >> PRECIS profiles and describes several mappings that can be applied >> between receiving user input and passing permitted code points to >> internationalized protocols. In particular, this document describes >> both locale-dependent and context-depending case mappings as well as >> additional mappings for delimiters and special characters. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> From nobody Wed Jul 8 01:46:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4F71ACD8C for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 01:46:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OJOGMfPr1rki for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411531ABD3E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [100.64.32.16] (unknown [133.2.56.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BAF7F7FE01; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 17:46:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from t.nemo10@kmd.keio.ac.jp) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5ADA7FD2-E609-428A-A9DA-7D070CE09A97"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Takahiro Nemoto In-Reply-To: <559BEFEC.9030807@andyet.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 17:46:21 +0900 Message-Id: <26D92CAC-C987-435B-B649-CE78F49789A1@kmd.keio.ac.jp> References: <20150706100706.11575.52853.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <10EE3CE0-71D4-4058-9810-F46D34AD1A5F@kmd.keio.ac.jp> <559BEFEC.9030807@andyet.net> To: Peter Saint-Andre - &yet X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: precis@ietf.org Subject: Re: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt X-BeenThere: precis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 08:46:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5ADA7FD2-E609-428A-A9DA-7D070CE09A97 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Peter-san, Thank you for taking your time to review the mappings document. We, co-authors, are thinking the name change is fine, but our concern=20 is that the name change will cause influence to RFC 7564 (framework)=20 wording because it uses "local case mapping" already. If we change the name, is it helpful to append remarks such as: alternative case mapping (note that this mapping was formerly=20 called "local case mapping", but changed to avoid confusion) Regards, Nemo > 2015/07/08 0:27=E3=80=81Peter Saint-Andre - &yet = =E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=EF=BC=9A >=20 > Thanks, Nemo! >=20 > Your changes look good to me. >=20 > What do you think about my suggestion to change "local case mapping" = to "alternative case mapping"? See here: >=20 > = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/precis/t0NsOdHCp_V_zfgMamOqEW6vBMY >=20 > I still feel that the word "local" might be confusing in several ways. >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 7/7/15 1:23 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrote: >> Dear all, >>=20 >> Yoneya-san and I submitted the latest version of precis mappings = document. >> We modified the document to address feedback from Peter-san. Thank = you very much, Peter-san. >> Please let me know if you have any questions and comments. >> Your feedbacks will be greatly appreciated. >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Nemo >>=20 >>> =E8=BB=A2=E9=80=81=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E3=83=A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB= =E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8=EF=BC=9A >>>=20 >>> =E5=B7=AE=E5=87=BA=E4=BA=BA: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> =E4=BB=B6=E5=90=8D: [precis] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt >>> =E6=97=A5=E4=BB=98: 2015=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5 19:07:06 JST >>> =E5=AE=9B=E5=85=88: >>> CC: precis@ietf.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Preparation and Comparison of = Internationalized Strings Working Group of the IETF. >>>=20 >>> Title : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes >>> Authors : Yoshiro YONEYA >>> Takahiro Nemoto >>> Filename : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt >>> Pages : 12 >>> Date : 2015-07-06 >>>=20 >>> Abstract: >>> The framework for preparation, enforcement, and comparison of >>> internationalized strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of >>> strings for use in application protocols. Because many protocols >>> perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison, it >>> necessary to define methods for case mapping. In addition, both = the >>> Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) and the = PRECIS >>> problem statement describe mappings for internationalized strings >>> that are not limited to case, but include width mapping and = mapping >>> of delimiters and other special characters that can be taken into >>> consideration. This document provides guidelines for designers of >>> PRECIS profiles and describes several mappings that can be applied >>> between receiving user input and passing permitted code points to >>> internationalized protocols. In particular, this document = describes >>> both locale-dependent and context-depending case mappings as well = as >>> additional mappings for delimiters and special characters. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ >>>=20 >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >>>=20 >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>=20 >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > precis mailing list > precis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/precis --Apple-Mail=_5ADA7FD2-E609-428A-A9DA-7D070CE09A97 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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[166.173.184.3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s3sm1208167obt.27.2015.07.08.06.18.10 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Jul 2015 06:18:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <20150706100706.11575.52853.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <10EE3CE0-71D4-4058-9810-F46D34AD1A5F@kmd.keio.ac.jp> <559BEFEC.9030807@andyet.net> <26D92CAC-C987-435B-B649-CE78F49789A1@kmd.keio.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <26D92CAC-C987-435B-B649-CE78F49789A1@kmd.keio.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4297FED3-4F3D-422B-82C7-72DDBECDB77F@andyet.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) From: Peter Saint-Andre Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 07:18:11 -0600 To: Takahiro Nemoto Archived-At: Cc: "precis@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt X-BeenThere: precis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 13:18:15 -0000 Ah, you are right. Thus I think it is better not to change the name.=20 Peter Sent from mobile, might be terse=20 > On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:46 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrot= e: >=20 > Hi Peter-san, >=20 > Thank you for taking your time to review the mappings document. > We, co-authors, are thinking the name change is fine, but our concern=20 > is that the name change will cause influence to RFC 7564 (framework)=20 > wording because it uses "local case mapping" already. >=20 > If we change the name, is it helpful to append remarks such as: >=20 > alternative case mapping (note that this mapping was formerly=20 > called "local case mapping", but changed to avoid confusion) >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Nemo >=20 >> 2015/07/08 0:27=E3=80=81Peter Saint-Andre - &yet =E3=81= =AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=EF=BC=9A >>=20 >> Thanks, Nemo! >>=20 >> Your changes look good to me. >>=20 >> What do you think about my suggestion to change "local case mapping" to "= alternative case mapping"? See here: >>=20 >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/precis/t0NsOdHCp_V_zfgMamOqEW6vBMY >>=20 >> I still feel that the word "local" might be confusing in several ways. >>=20 >> Peter >>=20 >>> On 7/7/15 1:23 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrote: >>> Dear all, >>>=20 >>> Yoneya-san and I submitted the latest version of precis mappings documen= t. >>> We modified the document to address feedback from Peter-san. Thank you v= ery much, Peter-san. >>> Please let me know if you have any questions and comments. >>> Your feedbacks will be greatly appreciated. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>>=20 >>> Nemo >>>=20 >>>> =E8=BB=A2=E9=80=81=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E3=83=A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB= =E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8=EF=BC=9A >>>>=20 >>>> =E5=B7=AE=E5=87=BA=E4=BA=BA: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>>> =E4=BB=B6=E5=90=8D: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.= txt >>>> =E6=97=A5=E4=BB=98: 2015=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5 19:07:06 JST >>>> =E5=AE=9B=E5=85=88: >>>> CC: precis@ietf.org >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dire= ctories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Preparation and Comparison of Internat= ionalized Strings Working Group of the IETF. >>>>=20 >>>> Title : Mapping characters for PRECIS classes >>>> Authors : Yoshiro YONEYA >>>> Takahiro Nemoto >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11.txt >>>> Pages : 12 >>>> Date : 2015-07-06 >>>>=20 >>>> Abstract: >>>> The framework for preparation, enforcement, and comparison of >>>> internationalized strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of >>>> strings for use in application protocols. Because many protocols >>>> perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison, it >>>> necessary to define methods for case mapping. In addition, both the >>>> Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS >>>> problem statement describe mappings for internationalized strings >>>> that are not limited to case, but include width mapping and mapping >>>> of delimiters and other special characters that can be taken into >>>> consideration. This document provides guidelines for designers of >>>> PRECIS profiles and describes several mappings that can be applied >>>> between receiving user input and passing permitted code points to >>>> internationalized protocols. In particular, this document describes >>>> both locale-dependent and context-depending case mappings as well as >>>> additional mappings for delimiters and special characters. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ >>>>=20 >>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >>>>=20 >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-precis-mappings-11 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submi= ssion >>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>>=20 >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> precis mailing list >> precis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/precis >=20 From nobody Tue Jul 21 06:14:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: precis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020D11A8706; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:14:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hrlO2pnkdHPh; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BBC1ACE5B; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.1.0.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20150721131409.8346.67297.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:14:09 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: precis@ietf.org Subject: [precis] Last Call: (Mapping characters for PRECIS classes) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: precis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:14:22 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings WG (precis) to consider the following document: - 'Mapping characters for PRECIS classes' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-08-04. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The framework for preparation, enforcement, and comparison of internationalized strings ("PRECIS") defines several classes of strings for use in application protocols. Because many protocols perform case-sensitive or case-insensitive string comparison, it necessary to define methods for case mapping. In addition, both the Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) and the PRECIS problem statement describe mappings for internationalized strings that are not limited to case, but include width mapping and mapping of delimiters and other special characters that can be taken into consideration. This document provides guidelines for designers of PRECIS profiles and describes several mappings that can be applied between receiving user input and passing permitted code points to internationalized protocols. In particular, this document describes both locale-dependent and context-depending case mappings as well as additional mappings for delimiters and special characters. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ IESG discussion, once it begins, can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-precis-mappings/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.