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Hello,

the text says :
Certain status values MAY be combined.  For example, an application
   or registration may be both "invalid" and "rejected"

the schema says :
<complexType name="infDataType">
       <sequence>
         <element name="phase" type="launch:phaseType"/>
        <element name="applicationID"
         type="launch:applicationIDType"
         minOccurs="0"/>
        <element name="status" type="launch:statusType"
         minOccurs="0"/>

so maybe a maxOccurs="unbounded" should be added there ?
or maxOccurs="7" to be extra conservative ?

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Patrick,

Good catch. My recommendation is for the text to be tightened up to
support only a single status, since the status really reflects the status
or state within the state diagram of Figure 1.  Adding support for
multiple statuses in the XML schema would make it more difficult for the
client to determine the state of the application. Thoughts?

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On 3/5/14, 10:23 AM, "Patrick Mevzek" <Patrick.Mevzek@afnic.fr> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>the text says :
>Certain status values MAY be combined.  For example, an application
>   or registration may be both "invalid" and "rejected"
>
>the schema says :
><complexType name=3D"infDataType">
>       <sequence>
>         <element name=3D"phase" type=3D"launch:phaseType"/>
>        <element name=3D"applicationID"
>         type=3D"launch:applicationIDType"
>         minOccurs=3D"0"/>
>        <element name=3D"status" type=3D"launch:statusType"
>         minOccurs=3D"0"/>
>
>so maybe a maxOccurs=3D"unbounded" should be added there ?
>or maxOccurs=3D"7" to be extra conservative ?
>
>--=20
>Patrick Mevzek
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+1. Our implementation only supports a single status. Are there any
implementations which require this design?

I'll add this point to my slides for discussion tomorrow.

G.

On 05/03/2014 15:36, Gould, James wrote:
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> Good catch. My recommendation is for the text to be tightened up to
> support only a single status, since the status really reflects the stat=
us
> or state within the state diagram of Figure 1.  Adding support for
> multiple statuses in the XML schema would make it more difficult for th=
e
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>=20

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+1, We've coded according to the Schema, multiple statuses would require =
a redesign...

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On 05 Mar 2014, at 5:36 PM, Gould, James <JGould@verisign.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>=20
> Good catch. My recommendation is for the text to be tightened up to
> support only a single status, since the status really reflects the =
status
> or state within the state diagram of Figure 1.  Adding support for
> multiple statuses in the XML schema would make it more difficult for =
the
> client to determine the state of the application. Thoughts?
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> JG
>=20
>=20
>=20
> James Gould
> Principal Software Engineer
> jgould@verisign.com
>=20
> 703-948-3271 (Office)
> 12061 Bluemont Way
> Reston, VA 20190
> VerisignInc.com
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 3/5/14, 10:23 AM, "Patrick Mevzek" <Patrick.Mevzek@afnic.fr> wrote:
>=20
>> Hello,
>>=20
>> the text says :
>> Certain status values MAY be combined.  For example, an application
>>  or registration may be both "invalid" and "rejected"
>>=20
>> the schema says :
>> <complexType name=3D"infDataType">
>>      <sequence>
>>        <element name=3D"phase" type=3D"launch:phaseType"/>
>>       <element name=3D"applicationID"
>>        type=3D"launch:applicationIDType"
>>        minOccurs=3D"0"/>
>>       <element name=3D"status" type=3D"launch:statusType"
>>        minOccurs=3D"0"/>
>>=20
>> so maybe a maxOccurs=3D"unbounded" should be added there ?
>> or maxOccurs=3D"7" to be extra conservative ?
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Patrick Mevzek
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We've coded according to the Schema, multiple statuses would require a =
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<br><div><div>On 05 Mar 2014, at 5:36 PM, Gould, James &lt;<a =
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wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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text to be tightened up to<br>support only a single status, since the =
status really reflects the status<br>or state within the state diagram =
of Figure 1. &nbsp;Adding support for<br>multiple statuses in the XML =
schema would make it more difficult for the<br>client to determine the =
state of the application. Thoughts?<br><br>-- =
<br><br>JG<br><br><br><br>James Gould<br>Principal Software =
Engineer<br><a =
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-3271 (Office)<br>12061 Bluemont Way<br>Reston, VA =
20190<br>VerisignInc.com<br><br><br><br><br>On 3/5/14, 10:23 AM, =
"Patrick Mevzek" &lt;Patrick.Mevzek@afnic.fr&gt; =
wrote:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hello,<br><br>the text says =
:<br>Certain status values MAY be combined. &nbsp;For example, an =
application<br> &nbsp;or registration may be both "invalid" and =
"rejected"<br><br>the schema says :<br>&lt;complexType =
name=3D"infDataType"&gt;<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;sequence&gt;<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;element name=3D"phase" =
type=3D"launch:phaseType"/&gt;<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;element name=3D"applicationID"<br>=
 =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=3D"launch:applicationIDType=
"<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;minOccurs=3D"0"/&gt;<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;element name=3D"status" =
type=3D"launch:statusType"<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;minOccurs=3D"0"/&gt;<br><br>so =
maybe a maxOccurs=3D"unbounded" should be added there ?<br>or =
maxOccurs=3D"7" to be extra conservative ?<br><br>-- <br>Patrick =
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On 06/03/2014 3:26 am, "Gavin Brown" <gavin.brown@centralnic.com> wrote:
>
> +1. Our implementation only supports a single status. Are there any
> implementations which require this design?

+1 we should keep it simple. already the spec supports quite a few use
cases, so unless this is a blocker for a common scenario we should not
allow multiple status values.

.wil

>
> I'll add this point to my slides for discussion tomorrow.
>
> G.
>
> On 05/03/2014 15:36, Gould, James wrote:
> > Patrick,
> >
> > Good catch. My recommendation is for the text to be tightened up to
> > support only a single status, since the status really reflects the
status
> > or state within the state diagram of Figure 1.  Adding support for
> > multiple statuses in the XML schema would make it more difficult for the
> > client to determine the state of the application. Thoughts?
> >
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 06/03/2014 3:26 am, &quot;Gavin Brown&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gavin.=
brown@centralnic.com">gavin.brown@centralnic.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; +1. Our implementation only supports a single status. Are there any<br=
>
&gt; implementations which require this design?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">+1 we should keep it simple. already the spec supports quite=
 a few use cases, so unless this is a blocker for a common scenario we shou=
ld not allow multiple status values.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">.wil</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;ll add this point to my slides for discussion tomorrow.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; G.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 05/03/2014 15:36, Gould, James wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Patrick,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Good catch. My recommendation is for the text to be tightened up =
to<br>
&gt; &gt; support only a single status, since the status really reflects th=
e status<br>
&gt; &gt; or state within the state diagram of Figure 1. =C2=A0Adding suppo=
rt for<br>
&gt; &gt; multiple statuses in the XML schema would make it more difficult =
for the<br>
&gt; &gt; client to determine the state of the application. Thoughts?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Gavin Brown<br>
&gt; Chief Technology Officer<br>
&gt; CentralNic Group plc (LSE:CNIC)<br>
&gt; Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services<br>
&gt; for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.centralnic.com/">https://www.centralnic.com/</a=
><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales with=
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