From nobody Sun Jul 1 17:35:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9E2130EC9 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:35:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BSGTEZ0wF2uC for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC34E130E5E for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 17:35:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530491707; bh=TjGs5BOtUgPehEEfeyQLJJHyewjJAPU4SvZPwPnDcZs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=x2Fo8ae7eqRP7n4EIZatLT7hLZQkInQPxGkklRI+xUhVWNrJEinNDT1QcdmpWNKE9 6NfGn81IXpI2/uQEqaB2bV4lFF/KeLDVryGjCeEgsq/5RIF9jH0wdgizJmCKinRjMB Fgg+yVgY9vCJDVhFw+jnhFJb4y8USmFkzN2wPY7w= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Comment about notational conventions (#1500) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b39733b5fc5e_13302af924a84f60177511f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:35:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b39733b5fc5e_13302af924a84f60177511f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -106,6 +106,8 @@ The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}} when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. +This document uses terms and notational conventions from {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. + We decided that the transport doc should be standalone (that is, it does not depend on invariants normatively). v1 of the transport might eventually be obsolete, but the terminology will still be there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1500#discussion_r199367147 ----==_mimepart_5b39733b5fc5e_13302af924a84f60177511f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -106,6 +106,8 @@ The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+This document uses terms and notational conventions from {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+

We decided that the transport doc should be standalone (that is, it does not depend on invariants normatively). v1 of the transport might eventually be obsolete, but the terminology will still be there.

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pretty bad consequences for connection integrity (e.g. acking packets = that weren't actually received)

If you reconstruct the wrong packet number, all that happens is that y= ou can't decrypt the packet. That's not fatal, it just looks like loss. = The damage is limited to a reduction in throughput.

In addition to the concern @ianswett= raised, a 2-bit-prefixed varint can use the one octet encoding less = often. Audio is probably OK to use a one octet encoding; the one-octet/6= -bit encoding can't be used at around a 640ms RTT for the most common 20m= s latency, which is a pretty long hop for real-time audio. Add video and= higher packet rates and lower latency encodings start to have to use 2 o= ctets on a shorter RTT. The current encoding allows the rate or RTT to d= ouble before spilling over.

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Merged #1504.

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Isn't it easier to switch to a new connection ID?

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----==_mimepart_5b3978dee5f56_ce43fe990530f8427974d-- From nobody Sun Jul 1 18:04:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC7F130EEA for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B9HDdhaFe99T for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB0B6130E16 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 18:04:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530493476; bh=325kuujOaZPX+Cq6YQ0voE2aKX8axo8piKzu6oJJifs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AISOpv/MtsSh0L5KSnC22F/NNS/TfaUImgmnKFC1yzS9r5h/7Gw8+VjhDLMrgKIVk axa+lb/6QxrHVOSLQiJ6b9VLYEnW9euVdYPvqUf1F5yOcu3+QC8SVJctjrNe7PUhCc uZpr8Yt43Mwh04M8cFW32O+sBm+0Qion65QNi5ME= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can a client send 0-RTT data when receiving Retry? (#1507) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b397a24d2a2_5ad72add5bc82f5416368e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 01:04:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b397a24d2a2_5ad72add5bc82f5416368e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What does the server do with the 0-RTT packets? Does the server have to keep the same connection ID for the packets to arrive at the right place? TLS could have allowed 0-RTT to continue after a HelloRetryRequest, but decided not to allow it. For that reason, I'd assumed that we would follow the same design here. If 0-RTT is accepted (and can't see a concrete reason not to allow it), then we need to consider what the consequences are. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1507#issuecomment-401646548 ----==_mimepart_5b397a24d2a2_5ad72add5bc82f5416368e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What does the server do with the 0-RTT packets? Does the server have = to keep the same connection ID for the packets to arrive at the right pla= ce?

TLS could have allowed 0-RTT to continue after a HelloRetryRequest, bu= t decided not to allow it. For that reason, I'd assumed that we would fo= llow the same design here. If 0-RTT is accepted (and can't see a concret= e reason not to allow it), then we need to consider what the consequences= are.

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Size overhead also becomes important in use cases like text messaging = where the message size becomes comparable to the protocol overhead. With = this change we would rollover to 2 bytes with 256 packets which in effect= means 256 messages. Sending a lol to someone where the protocol overhead= itself is larger than the message.

One alternative which might be interesting is var length encoding of t= he truncated packet number so that we don=E2=80=99t need the 4 byte packe= t number type in the short header

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What does the server do with the 0-RTT packets?

This is already an issue with 0-RTT, because the client generates a fr= esh CID which sends you to a random location

Does the server have to keep the same connection ID for the packets to= arrive at the right place?

I don't understand the question. You mean the same CID when it sends t= he Retry? Why would that be needed?

TLS could have allowed 0-RTT to continue after a HelloRetryRequest, bu= t decided not to allow it. For that reason, I'd assumed that we would fol= low the same design here. If 0-RTT is accepted (and can't see a concrete = reason not to allow it), then we need to consider what the consequences a= re.

I don't think that's a very good analogy, because a consequence of thi= s design is that the Retry happens entirely below the TLS layer. Saying t= hat 0-RTT is forbidden here is more like saying that it's forbidden if yo= u have a TFO failure.

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@martinthomson Good point on the drops. I know when I'm licked. Closing.

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Yes, mea culpa. I never intended APPLICATION_CLOSE to gain the new field. I'll fix that.

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The point is that if the handshake is successful, then the ClientHello= and all the 0-RTT have the same destination connection ID, so they proba= bly end up at the same point. Add Retry and they might not.

I think that the TLS analogy is fine. In TLS, a server could want a d= ifferent key share, but find the PSK perfectly adequate for the purposes = of 0-RTT. There's no reason a server that sends HelloRetryRequest would = need to stop accepting 0-RTT.

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The client can only switch to a new connection id, if it was given one by the server. A server that does not want clients to stay connected after a network reconnection event will likely not supply additional connection ids.

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We had that discussion when talking about migration. I think that there is still value in having some new connection IDs available. If a server doesn't want to support connection migration, there's a transport parameter for that now.

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  • Fix: octets do not have arbitrary length

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----==_mimepart_5b3a1db9be05b_461f3fd7fadbcf8850010-- From nobody Mon Jul 2 05:56:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884A51292AD for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jP00dM1ZD0IW for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6304512F1AC for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:55:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530536155; bh=GVnnqnjYk0TlvAYPLJNIE2Cu79quDCdJM8ER1el/SoY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y4l4MBPI/vLCRzV6JRko3axL1j1rQLNFrkEiPbJad2zAY7/CFcDE72J0RaRFLluil XRkXwMxL5jQ5TOKl/pSn/nB+KdzRawwxvLWESTOyXAE6HJ1xTvCvTGLpRLBcK5o03i IW9z7gLCdwSaPWG04nHzXKqUr+ZM5ffbjKgnUaqc= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can a client send 0-RTT data when receiving Retry? (#1507) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3a20dbbdea9_274a2b04e4a52f5892755"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:55:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3a20dbbdea9_274a2b04e4a52f5892755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The point is that if the handshake is successful, then the ClientHello and all the 0-RTT have the same destination connection ID, so they probably end up at the same point. Add Retry and they might not. Huh? If you do Retry, you resend initial and this includes resending CH and 0-RTT. > I think that the TLS analogy is fine. In TLS, a server could want a different key share, but find the PSK perfectly adequate for the purposes of 0-RTT. There's no reason a server that sends HelloRetryRequest would need to stop accepting 0-RTT. Yes, of course, but that creates complexity in the TLS state machine because of the way CH and HRR are intertwined. That is not so for Retry. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1507#issuecomment-401795136 ----==_mimepart_5b3a20dbbdea9_274a2b04e4a52f5892755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The point is that if the handshake is successful, then the ClientHello= and all the 0-RTT have the same destination connection ID, so they proba= bly end up at the same point. Add Retry and they might not.

Huh? If you do Retry, you resend initial and this includes resending C= H and 0-RTT.

I think that the TLS analogy is fine. In TLS, a server could want a di= fferent key share, but find the PSK perfectly adequate for the purposes o= f 0-RTT. There's no reason a server that sends HelloRetryRequest would ne= ed to stop accepting 0-RTT.

Yes, of course, but that creates complexity in the TLS state machine b= ecause of the way CH and HRR are intertwined. That is not so for Retry.

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(#1507) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3a2641317fb_483a2afe18aacf581151f6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:19:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3a2641317fb_483a2afe18aacf581151f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A 0-RTT retry probably should mean try again with a 1-RTT if it should at= all respond to retry because as Martin already pointed out, a redirected server likely won=E2=80=99t have the keys whether an endpoint or a middle= box triggers the retry. DoS considerations: You could argue that a dump middle issuing retries under DoS attack might= inadvertently redirect 0-RTT instead of letting it through. Under DoS a 0-RTT handshake could be a way to let priority traffic through. It might, however, also be that a DoS attack could drain resources be sending many invalid 0-RTT packets. So the DoS argument isn=E2=80=99t ent= irely clear cut. Attacks in the opposite direction are also possible by man-on-the-side by= sending false retries to the client which could prevent a 0-RTT priority client from getting through. Another consideration is to have 0-RTT specific non-stateless retry - I=E2= =80=99m not sure about TLS here - it could be it already supports that - and it ties in with servers preferred address which I=E2=80=99m also not up to s= peed with. On 2 July 2018 at 14.55.53, ekr (notifications@github.com) wrote: The point is that if the handshake is successful, then the ClientHello an= d all the 0-RTT have the same destination connection ID, so they probably e= nd up at the same point. Add Retry and they might not. Huh? If you do Retry, you resend initial and this includes resending CH a= nd 0-RTT. I think that the TLS analogy is fine. In TLS, a server could want a different key share, but find the PSK perfectly adequate for the purposes= of 0-RTT. There's no reason a server that sends HelloRetryRequest would need to stop accepting 0-RTT. Yes, of course, but that creates complexity in the TLS state machine because of the way CH and HRR are intertwined. That is not so for Retry. =E2=80=94 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub , or mute the thread . -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1507#issuecomment-401801284= ----==_mimepart_5b3a2641317fb_483a2afe18aacf581151f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A 0-RTT retry probably should mean try again with a 1-RTT if it should at=
all respond to retry because as Martin already pointed out, a redirected<= br> server likely won=E2=80=99t have the keys whether an endpoint or a middle= box
triggers the retry.

DoS considerations:

You could argue that a dump middle issuing retries under DoS attack might=
inadvertently redirect 0-RTT instead of letting it through. Under DoS a 0-RTT handshake could be a way to let priority traffic through.

It might, however, also be that a DoS attack could drain resources be
= sending many invalid 0-RTT packets. So the DoS argument isn=E2=80=99t ent= irely
clear cut.

Attacks in the opposite direction are also possible by man-on-the-side by=
sending false retries to the client which could prevent a 0-RTT priority<= br> client from getting through.

Another consideration is to have 0-RTT specific non-stateless retry - I=E2= =80=99m
not sure about TLS here - it could be it already supports that - and it<= br> ties in with servers preferred address which I=E2=80=99m also not up to s= peed with.

On 2 July 2018 at 14.55.53, ekr (notifications@github.com) wrote:

The point is that if the handshake is successful, then the ClientHello an= d
all the 0-RTT have the same destination connection ID, so they probably e= nd
up at the same point. Add Retry and they might not.

Huh? If you do Retry, you resend initial and this includes resending CH a= nd
0-RTT.

I think that the TLS analogy is fine. In TLS, a server could want a
different key share, but find the PSK perfectly adequate for the purposes=
of 0-RTT. There's no reason a server that sends HelloRetryRequest wou= ld
need to stop accepting 0-RTT.

Yes, of course, but that creates complexity in the TLS state machine
because of the way CH and HRR are intertwined. That is not so for Retry.<= br>
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A 0-RTT retry probably should mean try again with a 1-RTT if it should= at all respond to retry because as Martin already pointed out, a redirec= ted server likely won=E2=80=99t have the keys whether an endpoint or a mi= ddlebox triggers the retry.

I don't see why this would be the case. The original Initial packet is= destined to some random server in the server farm. At worst, the retried= Initial packet will also be sent to a random server, but at best the ser= ver will redirect it. How is that worse?

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Ignoring retry, a 0-RTT that is routed to a random location isn't worth very much in the general case. If that is really the case, we should look at how 0-RTT manages the original DCID.

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Yes, I'll come back to this. It was low pri relative to the other design changes I wanted to land for -01

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Are you suggesting that a server that would like to learn a Stateless = Reset Token (STR) needs to wait for a CONNECTION_ID frame with a new CID = from the client and then start using that new CID?

Since servers would always prefer to know a SRT, and clients would kno= w that and oblige by generating a new CONNECTION_ID frame. The servers w= ould also need to generate an extra CONNECTION_ID, since once the server = switches to a new CID, the client will likely switch as well.

All this is basically creating a lot of extra messaging, logic, and bu= sy work for the common case QUIC connection. It seems easier for the cli= ent to send just one message supply a SRT for the current CID and be done= with it.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b3a471f60472_741a3fb254276f78784fc-- From nobody Mon Jul 2 11:28:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8CC127148 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:28:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F7Eh6GOuBCsM for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D673D12F1A2 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 11:28:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530556080; bh=hndB9l7rdfrYNn/LA5n71Bq9PQqvoHm/EtrtLdmzKU4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VqKqibczVdLYkM9xc8xugb96V9jNo6b2qgLlO4snXEnZoTvSv7Qqi/5z0whCF9sCU 34ZeczE7W9sKY+YTh+ARjZkHlGlkp4dw7JDEMNm2FewqnEixo9LNRtcQcDcCi54O5J E4DwzprmnzmMhwLrm9Yj76Lr1yV7LNGSW4oElz50= From: Rui Paulo Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Short header: reserved bits (#1511) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3a6eb0c78f2_18882ae607a06f502010a0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rpaulo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:28:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3a6eb0c78f2_18882ae607a06f502010a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The test says: ``` Reserved: The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for experimentation. ``` But there's no guidance on what they should be set to, so I think it should be: ``` Reserved: The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for experimentation and MUST be set to zero. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1511 ----==_mimepart_5b3a6eb0c78f2_18882ae607a06f502010a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The test says:

Reserved: The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for experimentation.

But there's no guidance on what they should be set to, so I think it should be:

Reserved: The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for experimentation and MUST be set to zero.

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Confirmed... found the same issue... https://github.com/alagoutte/base-drafts/tree/disable_migration_iana

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I don't expect that a client sending a stateless reset will be common at all.

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The invariants specify what a long header looks like, and this draft specifies additional fields which are in certain types. The "Long Header" section actually adds additional fields beyond the long header which are type-specific to most (but not all) packet types used by this version. Maybe the real subdivision is "Retry Packets" and "Connection Setup Packets", along with a reminder than Version Negotiation packets are defined in invariants? > + 0 1 2 3 + 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|1| 0x7e | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Version (32) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)| ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Destination Connection ID (0/32..144) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Source Connection ID (0/32..144) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| ODCIL(8) | Original Destination Connection ID (*) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Retry Token (*) ... Technically, you could; just that, like a short-header packet, the Retry would have to come last. But as you say, I can't imagine a use for it in this version of QUIC, and since these are version-specific packets.... > +| Version (32) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)| ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Destination Connection ID (0/32..144) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Source Connection ID (0/32..144) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| ODCIL(8) | Original Destination Connection ID (*) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Retry Token (*) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +~~~ +{: #retry-format title="Retry Packet"} + +A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only the invariant portion of the This is duplicative of the first sentence in this section. Perhaps condense? > + +Retry Token: + +: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address. + +The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that +the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet. + +The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID +field. The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID +of subsequent packets that it sends. + +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. I'm not even sure it's necessary for it to be a SHOULD; there's no interoperability risk if it sends a Retry in response to a lone 0-RTT packet, is there? In which case it sounds more like servers MAY omit sending Retry in response to 0-RTT when they haven't seen the Initial. > + +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet +with a bogus new Source Connection ID. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8 @nibanks, it's the other way around. "A server that might send another" => all but the last. If you don't know you're the last element in the chain, you MUST change the CID. (Presumably to something that will get the retransmitted packet further down the DDoS chain.) > A server sends its first Initial packet in response to a client Initial. A server may send multiple Initial packets. The cryptographic key exchange could require multiple round trips or retransmissions of this data. The payload of an Initial packet includes a CRYPTO frame (or frames) containing a cryptographic handshake message, ACK frames, or both. The first CRYPTO frame -sent always begins at an offset of 0 (see {{handshake}}). The client's complete -first message MUST fit in a single packet (see {{handshake}}). Note that if the -server sends a HelloRetryRequest, the client will send a second Initial packet -with a CRYPTO frame with an offset starting at the end of the CRYPTO stream in -the first Initial. +sent always begins at an offset of 0 (see {{handshake}}). + +The first packet sent by a client always includes a CRYPTO frame that contains +the first cryptographic handshake message. The first packet sent by a client +MUST fit in a single UDP datagram (see {{handshake}}). Tautological, since we have no mechanism for a packet to span datagrams. But the first TLS message must fit in the first packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#pullrequestreview-133807792 ----==_mimepart_5b3ab82b881c4_72982b0546f1af60257495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -532,6 +532,86 @@ See {{version-negotiation}} for a description of the version negotiation
 process.
 
 
+## Retry Packet {#packet-retry}
+
+A Retry packet uses the invariant portion of the long packet header with a type

"Invariant portion of the long packet header" feels awkward. The invariants specify what a long header looks like, and this draft specifies additional fields which are in certain types. The "Long Header" section actually adds additional fields beyond the long header which are type-specific to most (but not all) packet types used by this version. Maybe the real subdivision is "Retry Packets" and "Connection Setup Packets", along with a reminder than Version Negotiation packets are defined in invariants?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> + 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|    0x7e     |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Version (32)                          |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|               Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                 Source Connection ID (0/32..144)            ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|    ODCIL(8)   |      Original Destination Connection ID (*)   |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...

Technically, you could; just that, like a short-header packet, the Retry would have to come last. But as you say, I can't imagine a use for it in this version of QUIC, and since these are version-specific packets....

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +|                         Version (32)                          |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|               Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                 Source Connection ID (0/32..144)            ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|    ODCIL(8)   |      Original Destination Connection ID (*)   |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+~~~
+{: #retry-format title="Retry Packet"}
+
+A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only the invariant portion of the

This is duplicative of the first sentence in this section. Perhaps condense?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Retry Token:
+
+: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address.
+
+The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that
+the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet.
+
+The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID
+field.  The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID
+of subsequent packets that it sends.
+
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.

I'm not even sure it's necessary for it to be a SHOULD; there's no interoperability risk if it sends a Retry in response to a lone 0-RTT packet, is there? In which case it sounds more like servers MAY omit sending Retry in response to 0-RTT when they haven't seen the Initial.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet
+with a bogus new Source Connection ID.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8

@nibanks, it's the other way around. "A server that might send another" => all but the last. If you don't know you're the last element in the chain, you MUST change the CID. (Presumably to something that will get the retransmitted packet further down the DDoS chain.)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 A server sends its first Initial packet in response to a client Initial.  A
 server may send multiple Initial packets.  The cryptographic key exchange could
 require multiple round trips or retransmissions of this data.
 
 The payload of an Initial packet includes a CRYPTO frame (or frames) containing
 a cryptographic handshake message, ACK frames, or both. The first CRYPTO frame
-sent always begins at an offset of 0 (see {{handshake}}). The client's complete
-first message MUST fit in a single packet (see {{handshake}}). Note that if the
-server sends a HelloRetryRequest, the client will send a second Initial packet
-with a CRYPTO frame with an offset starting at the end of the CRYPTO stream in
-the first Initial.
+sent always begins at an offset of 0 (see {{handshake}}).
+
+The first packet sent by a client always includes a CRYPTO frame that contains
+the first cryptographic handshake message.  The first packet sent by a client
+MUST fit in a single UDP datagram (see {{handshake}}).

Tautological, since we have no mechanism for a packet to span datagrams. But the first TLS message must fit in the first packet.

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Sure. You have to say what to do with the values if you get them. That is, you can't have recipients discard the packet if the value happens to be 1, because that might prevent the bits from being used.

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I was thinking to TCP world, where clients sent RST all the time (when they crash or otherwise). However, if a QUIC client crashes, it will very likely send ICMP Unreachable. Your statement seems so true that I actually start to wonder if clients even need to send SRT with CONNECTION_ID... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1505#issuecomment-402003193 ----==_mimepart_5b3aeef32105b_67343fe4d6fd6f884121e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson This is very tr= ue!

I was thinking to TCP world, where clients sent RST all the time (when= they crash or otherwise). However, if a QUIC client crashes, it will ve= ry likely send ICMP Unreachable.

Your statement seems so true that I actually start to wonder if client= s even need to send SRT with CONNECTION_ID...

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Clientside stateless resets apply in P2P where the client is more like= a server - especially when it is random which endpoint becomes a client.= I=E2=80=99m not generally a fan of resets though.

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Some missing arrows, alignment.

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Commit Summary

  • Tweak TLS API

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Transport doc says

Packets protected with 0-RTT keys use a type value of 0x7C. The connection ID fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial packet (Section 4.4.1).

But the original DCID is random and the server with the 0-RTT keys is at the DCID replied to the original handshake packet.

See also
#1507 (comment)

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it -SHOULD populate the Token field. +A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network I wasn't clear enough. I think that it's SHOULD NOT reuse (blanket), and MUST NOT reuse if the client moves. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r199682024 ----==_mimepart_5b3afed95e837_6f253fc837026f7c12171a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it
-SHOULD populate the Token field.
+A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network

I wasn't clear enough. I think that it's SHOULD NOT reuse (blanket), and MUST NOT reuse if the client moves.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -726,16 +727,17 @@ Connection ID.
 
 ### Tokens
 
-If the client has an unused token that it received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a
-previous connection to what it believes to be the same server, it includes that
-value in the Token field of its Initial packet.
+If the client has an token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  Reusing a token on different network paths would allow
-activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).  A client
-needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to completing
-the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token; reused tokens enable activity on connections
+to be correlated.  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point
+of network attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP
+address or network interface.  Reusing a token on different network paths would
+allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).  A
+client needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to
+completing the handshake.

Two separate sentences about linking, one stating "correlate", the other "linked".

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  Reusing a token on different network paths would allow
-activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).  A client
-needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to completing
-the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token; reused tokens enable activity on connections
+to be correlated.  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point
+of network attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP
+address or network interface.  Reusing a token on different network paths would
+allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).  A
+client needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to
+completing the handshake.

Oops, thanks.

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And, it would seem like Version Negotiation has essentially the same properties, so excluding it would be inconsistent. This allows this, explores the consequences for packet numbers (don't reset them!), and updates the recovery text to include Version Negotiation. 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And, it would seem like Version Negotiation has essentially the same properties, so excluding it would be inconsistent. This allows this, explores the consequences for packet numbers (don't reset them!), and updates the recovery text to include Version Negotiation. Closes #1507. (Note the target of this PR. Two pieces of work are in flight here. Don't just merge and walk away or something could get lost.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514 -- Commit Summary -- * Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (12) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (50) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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After the discussion on #1507, I've been convinced that there is no real
value in preventing a client from attempting 0-RTT after a Retry. And,
it would seem like Version Negotiation has essentially the same
properties, so excluding it would be inconsistent.

This allows this, explores the consequences for packet numbers (don't
reset them!), and updates the recovery text to include Version
Negotiation.

Closes #1507.

(Note the target of this PR. Two pieces of work are in flight here. Don't just merge and walk away or something could get lost.)

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514

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  • Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN

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The operating assumption here is that the server doesn't get a chance = to set a connection ID because that takes a round trip. That text exists= because the client can still be sending 0-RTT after getting a connection= ID from the server. It's a little rare though, and the consequences of = an occasional inconsistency were considered worse than just having all 0-= RTT go to the same place, even if that place was a black hole.

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Even in P2P, would not you have the client pick an ephemeral port as a source port? If so, once the client restarts, there is nothing listening on that ephemeral port.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +776,28 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 0-RTT protected

"as 0-RTT protected" -> "as 1-RTT protected"?

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You could require the 0-RTT uses not the original DCID, but the DCID it was given by the server after the earlier successfull 1-RTT handshake.

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----==_mimepart_5b3b15a574fc1_4a0a2af39a13af5c3310fd-- From nobody Mon Jul 2 23:21:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA53130ED8 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 23:21:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g-C_Ir8NMI67 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 23:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC18D126DBF for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 23:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 23:21:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530598893; bh=iHt77Od1cJ5lWW0Tovan9FCpyayxivUY32UNrsh6deo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=s7WhHCjYGl+q0jPhOrItuXjRMkD9zn16RRB7W+UIBX/xVP9SgWmd6zArf6yr4r2/T q0zR5hPQ2DOPO/q+d+ILM9JivxibghS0uxTrX4Kv+6iL7/hZXzQ1rHwSDPdJe20ERe idysBQUeoIPqA+709JYCqCQnvjiKJNLNGmrGzLFg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0-RTT DCID Routing (#1513) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3b15ed3675a_4a0a2af39a13af5c33937b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 06:21:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3b15ed3675a_4a0a2af39a13af5c33937b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. That is an option, it wouldn't change the recommendation of the quoted text though. There's a tension there that makes ticket reuse (a common practice still) harder. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1513#issuecomment-402025967 ----==_mimepart_5b3b15ed3675a_4a0a2af39a13af5c33937b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes. That is an option, it wouldn't change the recommendation of the quoted text though. There's a tension there that makes ticket reuse (a common practice still) harder.

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@igorlord : in P2P you could arg= ue that ephemeral ports are not so easily exchausted when the client has = long living connections to peers, as opposed to short lived loadbalancer = forwards.

But in a mesh network it is much more convenient to just stick to a si= ngle port and avoid all problems with ports differing, especially when us= e interfaces like netmap where you have to manage to ephemeral port. It i= s vastly simpler to just reuse fixed port, also client side.

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Essentially you avoid the problem of calling "connect" to the OS all the time and handling its lifetime.

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MUST grease?

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----==_mimepart_5b3b7d4fc7638_7ac12ae308a60f5c1751c8-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 06:50:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A46B130DDD for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id INgLF0FrAX3F for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 201791294D7 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 06:49:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530625798; bh=7fThVKq4UCyCsKLCyBYz06F+HMJUDscQNtcM/EX9TDI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Wje7GzuqySkEK+DfLaQfXnSKDSQhVGzsV4eFz6nH3Nfq3+b9ijZYMaOqNI2q0qHpO ke/RteX8S4Eg3RI4yP9lHjZMUMupsedgfyRq19nkIHMuy0emcUiQAI+YlhAdimLAcN iJNLpOkq5hV0IAxUzvd3/Wu0ybwcC/NHkzy/hPk8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN (#1514) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3b7f065f46_7a13f83dc760f801407db"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:50:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3b7f065f46_7a13f83dc760f801407db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -727,16 +732,17 @@ Connection ID. ### Tokens -If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection -to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the -Token field of its Initial packet. +If the client has an token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous a token > @@ -601,6 +601,11 @@ the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. +A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT +packets to the connection ID provided by the server. A client that sends +additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry +packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}. + sugg: A server MAY reject a redirected 0-RTT attempt because the DCID does not match the 0-RTT token. > -A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths -would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). -A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network -attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or -network interface. A client needs to start the connection process over if it -migrates prior to completing the handshake. +A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token; reused tokens enable activity on connections +to be correlated. A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point +of network attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP +address or network interface. Reusing a token on different network paths would +allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). A +client needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to +completing the handshake. Redundant explanation using both "correlate" and "linked" in separate sentences. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514#pullrequestreview-134002355 ----==_mimepart_5b3b7f065f46_7a13f83dc760f801407db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -727,16 +732,17 @@ Connection ID.
 
 ### Tokens
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.
+If the client has an token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous

a token

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -601,6 +601,11 @@ the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
 The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
 provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
 
+A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT
+packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client that sends
+additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry
+packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}.
+

sugg: A server MAY reject a redirected 0-RTT attempt because the DCID does not match the 0-RTT token.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
-would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it
-migrates prior to completing the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token; reused tokens enable activity on connections
+to be correlated.  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point
+of network attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP
+address or network interface.  Reusing a token on different network paths would
+allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).  A
+client needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to
+completing the handshake.

Redundant explanation using both "correlate" and "linked" in separate sentences.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -727,16 +732,17 @@ Connection ID.
 
 ### Tokens
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.
+If the client has an token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous

a?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +776,28 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, it MAY attempt to
+send data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.  However, a
+client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets.  The keys
+used to protect 0-RTT keys are not guaranteed to change as a result of

Technically, I don't think there's even a mechanism the 0-RTT keys could be changed via Retry, so I'd say "not likely to change"?

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I agree with @martinthomson he= re. Assuming that ACK losses resulting in that the sender don't know what= happened to some PNs at all, then adding slack corresponding to the unkn= own packets ensures that ECN usage does not terminate due to the loss of = the ACKs. And by updating the comparison baseline on such an event one ca= n correctly detect issues going forward. And I think implementations will= want to ensure that that ACK loss that results that no indication of rec= eption for a particular PN is rare as that would be treated as a loss, ev= en if the packet was received.

Regarding the sender memory of what it has seen ACKs for and what not.= If the sender has chosen to forget about if a PN was received or not, th= en it has passed beyond some Horizon. And if the packets data has been re= transmitted, the sender have received some indication that the packet was= lost. Which means it is likely not unaccounted for. We have to assume th= at the sender has a deep enough history of what it sent and has outstandi= ng. And if the sender anyway are declaring packet loss and going into rec= overy, then potentially having missed some ECN-CE does not matter. Resett= ing the ECN counter state is thus safe in this case.

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----==_mimepart_5b3b9585a5ca6_e9a73f95b23e2f881243c6-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 12:59:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E93130DFB for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eoJK_-_wQylh for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 474EF12F295 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 12:58:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530647939; bh=cF75WZ96RglB+F+EBrH4R2d96o44bAkdPoQujGnhZIY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cNAXsiqVBjf1/wvpHgl7fnOPQ/gAHpa83kotcc0cONqg/hmdpbf64VdBjeBtApzir CUqDH+roT9FEpHydJhWUTri6XPKjlO63Sx8jOJwsNXBOwtCzYeQo+AaOUpHP+gPQYI D3fOs5LpbRSFrKzAJI34xUiabt4qAfzVA3jOWYvY= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3bd5834172f_162c2abf995e6f5499335"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:59:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3bd5834172f_162c2abf995e6f5499335 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a simple DoS attack here. This is a way for a MITM to force specific CIDs towards the server. If the attacker replied to every outgoing Initial with the same CID in a Retry packet, the new Initial from the client would have a CID that collides with an existing connection at the server and get dropped. I don't this is an interesting attack, but I wonder if the ability to have all connections target specific CIDs might allow some sort of interesting attacks via steering the server's load balancing infrastructure. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-402275328 ----==_mimepart_5b3bd5834172f_162c2abf995e6f5499335 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There's a simple DoS attack here. This is a way for a MITM to force sp= ecific CIDs towards the server. If the attacker replied to every outgoing= Initial with the same CID in a Retry packet, the new Initial from the cl= ient would have a CID that collides with an existing connection at the se= rver and get dropped. I don't this is an interesting attack, but I wonder= if the ability to have all connections target specific CIDs might allow = some sort of interesting attacks via steering the server's load balancing= infrastructure.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b3bd5834172f_162c2abf995e6f5499335-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 13:17:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BAE130E20 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id imYGWolbuI_M for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3FD130DF6 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:16:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530649015; bh=p+ZIQF2BBC1aEtcBDLOPU3reKX/HYr6lUHqOxK9siUo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=e4IbWXO3tZlyijYVjxNw4+ydeshUc5VJ6YXM0F9StCOI+DakolEWaStiP/Z7dTXZY EvsUZmEXq/dWJmp7MuKLzunZaWUu1UeIC3BugqLUXfI5Euxx2nnqcIss9/wPYdUUpS WdSZ4ecy1C144LEfw4DrAqisW6dGsLktASh2Utac= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Unidirectional Stream Headers in HTTP (#1359) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3bd9b7d39db_66f23fa1cad10f7822371"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:17:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3bd9b7d39db_66f23fa1cad10f7822371 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not thrilled about this change... perhaps this is worth discussing in Montreal once more, if only to make sure that this doesn't go in silently. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1359#issuecomment-402279818 ----==_mimepart_5b3bd9b7d39db_66f23fa1cad10f7822371 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not thrilled about this change... perhaps this is worth discussing in Montreal once more, if only to make sure that this doesn't go in silently.

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----==_mimepart_5b3bd9b7d39db_66f23fa1cad10f7822371-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 13:22:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E98130E22 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6B-daUtRkG39 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D7BA130DF6 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:22:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530649339; bh=QWgWkhycVzxAB0hQzd87uwVZ4Q8bVsxYClDqa9ZkvhI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Fh/nstm3Y3J9mvEWDyqiq+f0zdTEPyjyPD8XsQm1540VWjmPTLg9iT/0LeNvUJnep WwoKbAzbTVhbJdrm6+eVX6liNldhBllVF2nAWF/YUjfMxrwAuNMrYOW0rU829/halJ IbO/bCMWi9SIXm9Dq/4/uuAZ9RbCTTdBkr3DthaU= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Unidirectional Stream Headers in HTTP (#1359) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3bdafbca430_1aa92ae462a42f601047da"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:22:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3bdafbca430_1aa92ae462a42f601047da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well since we are necromancing... I have implemented this in an experimental branch of https://github.com/bbc/nghq, along with the extension and it's specification. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1359#issuecomment-402281209 ----==_mimepart_5b3bdafbca430_1aa92ae462a42f601047da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well since we are necromancing...

I have implemented this in an experimental branch of https://github.com/bbc/nghq, along with the extension and it's specification.

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----==_mimepart_5b3bdafbca430_1aa92ae462a42f601047da-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 13:53:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E514130E54 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:53:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2sR4ngYjR5iX for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F3FA130DF5 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:53:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530651180; bh=omVjWa4dDdZJeLDztLjIEglPzflFOTbrZ+fKoqk4SnA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nQq777R4CUVouHVo0l82T43+2V+gCAJ/t8opMOYPDaN8NEaRo25zKFZMM+S1vY0JY +6SzxhUuR+IfUF0i6oSwfLyPJZ1x7vL0n6U9uulr6kl9uAx1PmM8d0oLeofMsSJBDU +R0kEXxoXCXkEbt3LgBZ6Cfzb+l5ixqsAZjDrxJA= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3be22c44790_43e72aed8e83ef547822c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:53:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3be22c44790_43e72aed8e83ef547822c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > but I wonder if the ability to have all connections target specific CIDs might allow some sort of interesting attacks via steering the server's load balancing infrastructure. Yes, this is what I've trying to say. This is why I suggest the original DCID is empty and leave the routing decision to LB and instead have a separate token that can used in retry, and chains of retries. However, the LB can also today choose to route randomly be detecting the packet is initial and ignore the DCID routing logic in this case. So maybe the current ODCID does work like a token in that sense. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-402288709 ----==_mimepart_5b3be22c44790_43e72aed8e83ef547822c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

but I wonder if the ability to have all connections target specific CI= Ds might allow some sort of interesting attacks via steering the server's= load balancing infrastructure.

Yes, this is what I've trying to say. This is why I suggest the origin= al DCID is empty and leave the routing decision to LB and instead have a = separate token that can used in retry, and chains of retries.

However, the LB can also today choose to route randomly be detecting t= he packet is initial and ignore the DCID routing logic in this case. So m= aybe the current ODCID does work like a token in that sense.

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Not seeing a driving technical reason to make a change. Closing for now; if there is a strong reason to flip, feel free to present it.

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----==_mimepart_5b3c0141bf8a5_57923fd218442f80254da-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 16:06:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A72130E20 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zocaA5QeW6tR for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16F3C130E62 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:06:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530659186; bh=xR1uxHs58doOz46NPXnL01Aeg7N3zGUZh/NDAKzb/6g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AZr2VgvXg5QXuuo0cuBwPVunldB/6WW96gSYXwhnjjahrp972AixjNOYqtJhAg+Ol bKA0Tdn8HNwINMyHpR6TCsCj8Hhz+/yGRnnVMIPU4uKST+WX8Bnps/4UX5yvOsGMRs jnHMG3Cuh//NrgKJP4iT/HTYIebLs6SmeW5xbf8o= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN (#1514) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3c0172328e7_4c5d3f808acb6f8468212"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 23:06:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3c0172328e7_4c5d3f808acb6f8468212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -601,6 +601,11 @@ the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. +A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT +packets to the connection ID provided by the server. A client that sends +additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry +packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}. + Not sure that I understand the suggestion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514#discussion_r199972532 ----==_mimepart_5b3c0172328e7_4c5d3f808acb6f8468212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -601,6 +601,11 @@ the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
 The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
 provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
 
+A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT
+packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client that sends
+additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry
+packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}.
+

Not sure that I understand the suggestion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +776,28 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, it MAY attempt to
+send data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.  However, a
+client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets.  The keys
+used to protect 0-RTT keys are not guaranteed to change as a result of

I struggled with finding the right words, but I have a plan now. They won't change unless the cryptographic handshake does. (And I will leave unsaid the reasons why it might not - we have reason to believe that Retry will never cause a change and VN might, but that detail is elsewhere and if we follow the justification rabbit-hole to the end we'll be singing about oysters in no time.)

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Fixes #1461 by pulling in a bit of RFC7540 language and referencing lots more. I think we've assumed all of this, but the document didn't actually say.

(If you disagree that this is what we already intended to specify, scream now.)

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1516

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One comment, what about new pseudo headers defined since RFC 7540 i.e. : protocol in H2 WebSockets -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1516#pullrequestreview-134200415 ----==_mimepart_5b3c07ce76b1b_619d2b052b1e0f546575c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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One comment, what about new pseudo headers defined since RFC 7540 i.e. : protocol in H2 WebSockets

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Closes #837 and #838.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar > but I wonder if the ability to have all connections target specific CIDs might allow some sort of interesting attacks via steering the server's load balancing infrastructure. I do not think that providing middleboxes the ability change the DCID opens up a _new_ attack vector, because load balancers need to take care of DoS attacks *mounted by clients* using specific DCID (or set of specific DCIDs) anyways. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-402344343 ----==_mimepart_5b3c30191e059_fab3fb5d1a08f7c168272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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but I wonder if the ability to have all connections target specific CI= Ds might allow some sort of interesting attacks via steering the server's= load balancing infrastructure.

I do not think that providing middleboxes the ability change the DCID = opens up a new attack vector, because load balancers need to tak= e care of DoS attacks mounted by clients using specific DCID (or= set of specific DCIDs) anyways.

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The TLS spec seems to imply that the End Of Early Data (EOED) message, if required, should be protected and transmitted as 0-RTT data. I found that when implementing the draft-13 spec, and it was somewhat of a surprise. I understand the willingness to exactly parallel TLS 1.3 behavior of TCP, but it is weird when packets are sent as UDP datagrams.

The weirdest part is probably the retransmission behavior. 0-RTT packets are only acked by 1-RTT packets. Stream frames in 0-RTT packets are resent in 1-RTT packets. For correct behavior, we must guarantee that it is received before the Client Finished message. What are implementers supposed to do? Put a huge wart in the retransmission control?

It would be much simpler to not require an EOED message for Quic. EOED is not really functional, since 0-RTT packets are not processed through the TLS stack. 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets are in the same sequence space, there is no need for a demarcation. It is just one of those hazing things that are imposed on developers.

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What would I do without these fixes... Thanks.

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Merged #1515.

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Closed #837 via #1517.

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Merged #1517.

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Great. That's two more issues down.

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Wed, 04 Jul 2018 03:27:05 -0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:27:04 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b3c3e88155bc_353d2ab464b75c1c2453b@hookshot-fe-88eb02d.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 70dcd4: Add text to handle PADDING and CC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3c3e8814e3a_353d2ab464b75c1c244a5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 03:37:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3c3e8814e3a_353d2ab464b75c1c244a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 70dcd4af391f969c04924aeec4ac0b2ebaa0eaaf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/70dcd4af391f969c04924aeec4ac0b2ebaa0eaaf Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add text to handle PADDING and CC Commit: ba7151b6bf3098e2c8cdb442b58bd4237557b49b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba7151b6bf3098e2c8cdb442b58bd4237557b49b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-04 (Wed, 04 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1517 from quicwg/padding Add cautionary text about PADDING and congestion control Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/7b07552ecb71...ba7151b6bf30 **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b3c3e8814e3a_353d2ab464b75c1c244a5-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 20:46:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27147130E28 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: > The TLS spec seems to imply that the End Of Early Data (EOED) message, if > required, should be protected and transmitted as 0-RTT data. > Yes. All messages are transmitted in the same epochs they would be in TLS 1.3. I found that when implementing the draft-13 spec, and it was somewhat of a > surprise. I understand the willingness to exactly parallel TLS 1.3 behavior > of TCP, but it is weird when packets are sent as UDP datagrams. > > The weirdest part is probably the retransmission behavior. 0-RTT packets > are only acked by 1-RTT packets. Stream frames in 0-RTT packets are resent > in 1-RTT packets. For correct behavior, we must guarantee that it is > received before the Client Finished message. What are implementers supposed > to do? Put a huge wart in the retransmission control? > Well, EOED isn't a stream frame, so I don't think it's actually that complicated to implement this. I think it's more important to keep the TLS 1.3 state machine intact. -Ekr -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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wrote:

> The TLS spec seems to imply that the End Of Early Data (EOED) messag= e, if
> required, should be protected and transmitted as 0-RTT data.
>

Yes. All messages are transmitted in the same epochs they would be in TLS=
1.3.

I found that when implementing the draft-13 spec, and it was somewhat of = a
> surprise. I understand the willingness to exactly parallel TLS 1.3 b= ehavior
> of TCP, but it is weird when packets are sent as UDP datagrams.
>
> The weirdest part is probably the retransmission behavior. 0-RTT pac= kets
> are only acked by 1-RTT packets. Stream frames in 0-RTT packets are = resent
> in 1-RTT packets. For correct behavior, we must guarantee that it is=
> received before the Client Finished message. What are implementers s= upposed
> to do? Put a huge wart in the retransmission control?
>
Well, EOED isn't a stream frame, so I don't think it's actual= ly that
complicated to implement this. I think it's more important to keep th= e TLS
1.3 state machine intact.

-Ekr

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= ----==_mimepart_5b3c4327939de_374a3fd0a3f4ef80502173-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 21:11:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489561271FF for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MP17Gg9roMcv for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53159130934 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 21:11:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530677512; bh=gskFYEwtMijAjYe74dDdxayXQ4vZKS/nVmVdTZEwhiM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iRHXsBwwMyr1a3npBGXLqPY12voW4kvxVbn7xkB0kBk6vqVyN8Nu34ka7VzM/YmOf gdkSsYl69zKgOES8PRcDZR41OZoQJoIld52aIocuQS9p3mheReZwreVZ36shmWLEq9 pK2nE9NgtiNo8sp3TuzWLSjyDiGDMeeZ1vdJxQ+g= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3c490855bb5_71172b1712580f58522472"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 04:11:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3c490855bb5_71172b1712580f58522472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It really depends how you deal with retransmissions. In my code it is a huge pain. Of course I can find some contorted way to deal with it. But I hate that kind of stuff. As for the TLS 1.3 state machine, what does the EOED actually achieve? You cannot clear the 0-RTT encryption context until you are sure that all 0-RTT datagrams have been received. Do you just want to prove that the client could exercise the 0-RTT key? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-402357765 ----==_mimepart_5b3c490855bb5_71172b1712580f58522472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It really depends how you deal with retransmissions. In my code it is = a huge pain. Of course I can find some contorted way to deal with it. But= I hate that kind of stuff.

As for the TLS 1.3 state machine, what does the EOED actually achieve?= You cannot clear the 0-RTT encryption context until you are sure that al= l 0-RTT datagrams have been received. Do you just want to prove that the = client could exercise the 0-RTT key?

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@kazuho got it in one. It is cheaper by far for the attacker to act as a client if this is their goal. @mikkelfj's defense is probably best. Don't bother applying normal routing rules to Initial packets.

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Closes #1511.

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  • Grease the reserved bits

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----==_mimepart_5b3c67fab6ced_4f1e2b2992eb4f60360041-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 23:26:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F64130EB4 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:26:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9AjQSeIK7mET for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40EF6130EA1 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 23:26:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530685596; bh=fcoyqTZwKluqKx1FT7yV8waebre8AYvsvwvBH4Ivy70=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FhlqY51e7vWLpSRJvNxht5fdmc5O125+TWL2tV1Iw7lLWL/6q3zfmHvcKV9g1bgBN 5APE68ZfoaDRR4PdE3JpF2MJ3uhGv4A9YUT93OXkX4vKGLXnH6uCtD8aU1fz1p+LoP x/PT3u4zRT9+DBjS+WsqJ6DDM/hjd5s30f0ACzN8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3c689be97c5_30202ad3cd96cf50754391"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 06:26:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3c689be97c5_30202ad3cd96cf50754391 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure that I understand how this is difficult. How is it different to - for example - CRYPTO frames in Handshake packets? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-402376469 ----==_mimepart_5b3c689be97c5_30202ad3cd96cf50754391 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not sure that I understand how this is difficult. How is it different to - for example - CRYPTO frames in Handshake packets?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -444,7 +444,10 @@ Google QUIC Demultipe=
xing Bit:
 Reserved:
 =

 : The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for
-  experimentation.
+  experimentation.  Endpoints can MUST ignore these bits unless they are=

c=CC=B6a=CC=B6n=CC=B6

gQUIC 44 is using the Long Header according to draft-11 (?), where the= last two bits are used to encode the packet number length. So technicall= y, the bits are not ignored there.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -444,7 +444,10 @@ Google QUIC Demultipexing Bit:
 Reserved:
 
 : The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for
-  experimentation.
+  experimentation.  Endpoints can MUST ignore these bits unless they are

This is version-specific text, so I think that we're OK. Even if qQUIC doesn't use the invariants (yet) to identify versions.

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It does make sense - in my response to the linked comment above I clai= m that 0-RTT cannot be routed in the general case. But in specific cases = where a DC can distribute 0-RTT trust better than LB routing it makes sen= se.

I don't know enough about 0-RTT trust formation to have a strong opini= on. There are downsides to both cases.

The risk is the 0-RTT mostly become useless and provides more RTT's ra= ther than fewer.

Idea:
0-RTT token is delivered with a DCID token to use in new connections. Thi= s DCID is (typically) neither random, not as specific as a proper server = generated DCID. This makes it possible to route 0-RTT to any compatible e= nd-point. Perhaps this is what you mean by an ID in the NEW_TOKEN frame? = It starts to get complicated, but I think it would work better.

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ACK_ECN type should be 0x1a if you expect the type to be incremented by 1. Or is this(0x20) expected value?

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Probably best. This is the second time we (well, me mostly) have made this particular mistake. My only concern here is churn. Maybe we defer this fix and do a big rearrangement later. @janaiyengar, WDYT?

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HTTP errors are application errors, not transport level errors, so they should be sent in APPLICATION_CLOSE frames.

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Yep, that's a mistake. Marked as editorial because it's clear from other parts of the doc that the intent was right. Fix inbound.

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Closes #1521.

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  • Use APPLICATION_CLOSE for hq errors

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----==_mimepart_5b3c9b5266107_1c3113fe1848e4f7c5559a-- From nobody Wed Jul 4 03:16:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2819E130E4D for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:16:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0X3utXQt9JfW for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96FB0130DC4 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 03:16:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530699360; bh=WiI3i9KaJuS0RF84YGTUvlHSch2BbF971yi4ZUAkD1A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kx4ynvzZYwros11s+y1yUjK9coH9Gl6wa35/KPWcuyhKPaFwCaNYvu+q4Ca+hEc5X 4FVWKk6Kz9Z5JC0/bJlZLnq707/risB0n1LDFqYwp090i86yNEP/ZZ58ZaA1ru8kAe lLtfPiOHJyry96lRl/SeMs6vQKZY1MjOp3hiLEpE= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3c9e60b230b_4a633f9f23cdaf80918e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:16:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3c9e60b230b_4a633f9f23cdaf80918e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj >I would feel more comfortable if the original DCID were in TP, but I do not have a solid argument. I feels wrong that a handshake can complete with something other than what startet it. +1 While I do not think that allowing a middlebox to change Initial DCID opens a new DoS attack vector against the server, I do share the concern that it might have other implications. At the very least, I see a theoretical ossification concern as I have described in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-400568727. Should we create a PR that addns the original DCID to TP? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-402434572 ----==_mimepart_5b3c9e60b230b_4a633f9f23cdaf80918e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I would feel more comfortable if the original DCID were in TP, but I d= o not have a solid argument. I feels wrong that a handshake can complete = with something other than what startet it.

+1

While I do not think that allowing a middlebox to change Initial DCID = opens a new DoS attack vector against the server, I do share the concern = that it might have other implications.

At the very least, I see a theoretical ossification concern as I have = described in #1486 (comment).

Should we create a PR that addns the original DCID to TP?

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For example, someone might get the idea that having a (trusted) client= set ODCID bit 2 could encode priority 0 connectivity. Someone else might= then think it would be a good idea to create a middle box that always se= ts bit 2 so all its connections get through before the competitors equipm= ent.

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More generally, the initial AEAD tag could be verified in the handshake instead of overloading TP. Since TP is covered by the tag, it cannot contain it.

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The difference is that handshake packets are acknowledged immediately.= 0-RTT packets are only acknowledged by 1-RTT packets. The computation of= timers is different, per the recovery draft, with handshake packets acke= d asap, and 0-RTT packets acked leisurely, as data. For example, the reco= very draft says:

 3.5.7.1. Handshake Alarm

When a connection has unacknowledged handshake data, the handshake alarm =
is set and when it expires, all unacknowledgedd handshake data is retrans=
mitted.

To this naive reader, "handshake packets" means packets of type Initia= l or Handshake, not 0-RTT. What I have to implement is "also retransmit t= hose 0-RTT packets that contain Crypto Stream data". Or something similar= .

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----==_mimepart_5b3d48dfa6c48_a552b2750f6ef581373034-- From nobody Wed Jul 4 17:39:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C937130DCB for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:39:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HGNDN4tWcHFn for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98369129C6B for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:39:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530751175; bh=mLcrDRRl7WueXTJRMjncXGSzLwaimn91XQsVoFAqNCE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xWDQsaRu2w/AwAMSrozx7QFw48Z/ey4Gqcdk6M7UZWQ2toZqeMwIDn6iUfaHsE77D v9U6NZH2ERWnhRvYLvH+33WMTD/gn0LMgEpb0TgRi/jDpeG5KnY5VFWGuZN9tWPXEw TYpcv0FsaENtv9Sufr9T1omlXHw6wDGld506ubDU= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3d68c76ab56_2a422ab0c8c40f601391280"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:39:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3d68c76ab56_2a422ab0c8c40f601391280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It says "handshake data", which is correct, if perhaps a little too easy to mistake for "Handshake packets". Acknowledging promptly is primarily an optimization. It should still work with the leisurely timers. My naive assumption was that when you process a CRYPTO frame you would cut the ack delay timer. That gets you a pretty good approximation of the right behaviour, even if that also means that NewSessionTicket forces more aggressive acknowledgment than necessary (for which you could condition on the packet protection level if you cared). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-402576715 ----==_mimepart_5b3d68c76ab56_2a422ab0c8c40f601391280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It says "handshake data", which is correct, if perhaps a little too ea= sy to mistake for "Handshake packets".

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@larseggert approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -444,7 +444,10 @@ Google QUIC Demultipexing Bit:
 Reserved:
 
 : The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for
-  experimentation.
+  experimentation.  Endpoints MUST ignore these bits unless they are

s/ignore these bits/ignore these bits on receipt/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -444,7 +444,10 @@ Google QUIC Demultipexing Bit:
 Reserved:
 
 : The sixth, seventh, and eighth bits (0x7) of octet 0 are reserved for
-  experimentation.
+  experimentation.  Endpoints MUST ignore these bits unless they are
+  participating in an experiment that uses these bits.  An endpoint not
+  actively using these bits SHOULD set the value randomly to protect against

s/should set the value randomly/should randomize these bits on transmit/

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I eventually figured out what you actually meant, but it didn't click for me reading the text the first time. If it's not just me, perhaps more/different explanation is in order. The key point is that if the CID doesn't change, the 0-RTT packets from before and after the Retry can both be accepted and processed as part of the connection, either via buffering or reordering. So you have to resend all that data, but can't reuse those packet numbers. > -The Retry indicates that the Initial was received but not processed. It MUST -NOT be treated as an acknowledgment for the Initial, but it MAY be used for an -RTT measurement. +Either packet indicates that the Initial was received but not processed. Either +packet cannot be treated as an acknowledgment for the Initial, but they MAY be "Either ... cannot" feels awkward. Maybe "Neither packet can be...."? > @@ -727,16 +732,16 @@ Connection ID. ### Tokens -If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection -to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the -Token field of its Initial packet. +If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous +connection to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value +in the Token field of its Initial packet. This paragraph looks like a rewrap to a shorter line length than the rest of the document. The original layout appears to be fine. > -A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths -would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). -A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network -attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or -network interface. A client needs to start the connection process over if it -migrates prior to completing the handshake. +A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token could allow different +connections to be identified as coming from the same endpoint (see also +{{migration-linkability}}). A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that +its point of network attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in +its local IP address or network interface. A client MUST start the connection I know you didn't change this text, but this seems to preclude clients keeping a cache of tokens and the associated network connections. For example, a mobile device that went to Wi-Fi could keep the cellular token in expectation that it will be on cellular again. Perhaps the better prohibition is that you MUST NOT use the token on a different network than where you received it? > @@ -770,6 +775,29 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see {{packet-numbers}}). +### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn} + +Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected +packets. + +After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, it MAY attempt to +send data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet. However, a +client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets. The keys If the CID doesn't change, reordering or caching could cause the first flight of 0-RTT packets to remain valid after the new Initial lands. So unless the CID changes (and maybe even if it does, if the server is trying too hard), you have to assume those packets are still outstanding but potentially lost. Maybe we should frame this in terms of fast retransmit? > @@ -1311,6 +1339,10 @@ Version Negotiation packet. A client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation packet that lists the client's chosen version. +A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Version Negotiation packet. A +client that sends additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 +after a Retry packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}. Since this section is about Version Negotiation packets, the mention of Retry packets seems a *non sequitur*. It's fine to reset the 0-RTT packet number space after a VN packet, because the previous 0-RTT packets will be of a version unknown to the server and therefore will just be discarded (or rather, will trigger more VN packets). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

I eventually figured out what you actually meant, but it didn't click for me reading the text the first time. If it's not just me, perhaps more/different explanation is in order.

The key point is that if the CID doesn't change, the 0-RTT packets from before and after the Retry can both be accepted and processed as part of the connection, either via buffering or reordering. So you have to resend all that data, but can't reuse those packet numbers.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-The Retry indicates that the Initial was received but not processed.  It MUST
-NOT be treated as an acknowledgment for the Initial, but it MAY be used for an
-RTT measurement.
+Either packet indicates that the Initial was received but not processed.  Either
+packet cannot be treated as an acknowledgment for the Initial, but they MAY be

"Either ... cannot" feels awkward. Maybe "Neither packet can be...."?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -727,16 +732,16 @@ Connection ID.
 
 ### Tokens
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.
+If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous
+connection to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value
+in the Token field of its Initial packet.

This paragraph looks like a rewrap to a shorter line length than the rest of the document. The original layout appears to be fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
-would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it
-migrates prior to completing the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token could allow different
+connections to be identified as coming from the same endpoint (see also
+{{migration-linkability}}).  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that
+its point of network attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in
+its local IP address or network interface.  A client MUST start the connection

I know you didn't change this text, but this seems to preclude clients keeping a cache of tokens and the associated network connections. For example, a mobile device that went to Wi-Fi could keep the cellular token in expectation that it will be on cellular again. Perhaps the better prohibition is that you MUST NOT use the token on a different network than where you received it?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +775,29 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, it MAY attempt to
+send data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.  However, a
+client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets.  The keys

If the CID doesn't change, reordering or caching could cause the first flight of 0-RTT packets to remain valid after the new Initial lands. So unless the CID changes (and maybe even if it does, if the server is trying too hard), you have to assume those packets are still outstanding but potentially lost. Maybe we should frame this in terms of fast retransmit?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1311,6 +1339,10 @@ Version Negotiation packet.
 A client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation packet that lists the client's chosen
 version.
 
+A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Version Negotiation packet.  A
+client that sends additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0
+after a Retry packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}.

Since this section is about Version Negotiation packets, the mention of Retry packets seems a non sequitur. It's fine to reset the 0-RTT packet number space after a VN packet, because the previous 0-RTT packets will be of a version unknown to the server and therefore will just be discarded (or rather, will trigger more VN packets).

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----==_mimepart_5b3e45218c8fe_716d3fa654d64f7c588369-- From nobody Thu Jul 5 09:27:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A87129C6A for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:27:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HW8Mqfx5iBOu for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5875A130EC8 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 09:27:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530808029; bh=4uaE8ipxytvX6jjdzrCO/6tgGPTPZzUFa2yXwchTeUI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=X3jdsDT4c1Y+7LE98xHRWgpjQYw0cJfXKfq7XhU9HdShsbgVdY9jvuwYzGjoBlF+G 3ByXrtCQy68CIn1CSJXU7WwIFDOqzyfjGt/wg/Xis0FctgEKZjaCuvz4rUQkUopJQw 8t57UbHxvnKOXsUQz9GOaXVztGMv1TVMiFtK0woo= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss headers in more detail (#1516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3e46dde1578_3a232ac6b4264f5887142d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:27:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3e46dde1578_3a232ac6b4264f5887142d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @LPardue, that's defined by an extension to HTTP/2. To be used with HTTP/QUIC, a suspiciously similar extension would need to define it for HTTP/QUIC. Of course, we probably need to bring in the RFC 7540 language that permits such extensions.... @mikkelfj, I was just reusing the RFC7540 language, but I agree it's a little bit loose. I'll reference the specific section in RFC 7230. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1516#issuecomment-402779131 ----==_mimepart_5b3e46dde1578_3a232ac6b4264f5887142d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@LPardue, that's defined by an ext= ension to HTTP/2. To be used with HTTP/QUIC, a suspiciously similar exte= nsion would need to define it for HTTP/QUIC. Of course, we probably need= to bring in the RFC 7540 language that permits such extensions....

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Some references in HTTP/QUIC would benefit from invoking the HTTPter drafts instead, if they finish before we do. For example, the text is #1516 is unnecessarily awkward because it references concepts from RFC 7230 while disclaiming the wire format. The equivalent text in Semantics is far more appropriate.

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The text currently says that extensions can define stream types and settings. It says that they'll need to register the frame types they define, but doesn't actually say they're permitted to do so. (I guess we consider that implied.) It doesn't permit them to define pseudoheaders (e.g. :protocol).

We probably need the equivalent language of 7540 which permits them to alter any aspect of the protocol subject to certain constraints, and spell out those constraints.

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----==_mimepart_5b3e4b8d2f62c_37e02afcee726f5858731-- From nobody Thu Jul 5 10:22:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8200F130F08 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BjKTfjo6LnT6 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m71-131.mailgun.net (m71-131.mailgun.net [166.78.71.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 824E4130DE1 for ; 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Commit: d42c1f1ad56bc5fd3045fc0fed2fe93192282451 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d42c1f1ad56bc5fd3045fc0fed2fe93192282451 Author: Rui Paulo Date: 2018-06-28 (Thu, 28 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Wrap at 65 Commit: e607539abcf41f7cd57b6de8869dddb7b01de361 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e607539abcf41f7cd57b6de8869dddb7b01de361 Author: Rui Paulo Date: 2018-06-28 (Thu, 28 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Whitespace lint Commit: 52ba67e4eb75b1b71e613073a86fbfeca296f70c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/52ba67e4eb75b1b71e613073a86fbfeca296f70c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-29 (Fri, 29 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Small editorial tweaks Capitalize and shorten title Rename some variables Indent a little more Commit: 80b08852feebdfc7ecc761170ef03ec3933ae63e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/80b08852feebdfc7ecc761170ef03ec3933ae63e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-29 (Fri, 29 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1493 from rpaulo/master Add an appendix related to packet number decoding. Commit: 69f364940b67f61f52def13a4dca4ad937fdeb65 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69f364940b67f61f52def13a4dca4ad937fdeb65 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-29 (Fri, 29 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove HTAB Commit: cf9d80e152ee805dc6a5b52c12a98cfa335eca68 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cf9d80e152ee805dc6a5b52c12a98cfa335eca68 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-29 (Fri, 29 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Correct a contradiction Commit: 6fb52501a58cc1ae93f3f7d3815270eab788b07e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6fb52501a58cc1ae93f3f7d3815270eab788b07e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-29 (Fri, 29 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Define NAT rebinding better The change to add a means of disabling migration also mostly fixed #594, so close that too. Closes #952, #594. 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Reordered text to match ordering of server push (PUSH_PROMISE and then push stream). * My kingdom for an * an online editor that doesn't suck * 80 wasn't enough for me * trailing trash Commit: e66be480e5637d2cb7db71195746ed638574ad9e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e66be480e5637d2cb7db71195746ed638574ad9e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-02 (Mon, 02 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1499 from quicwg/invariant-vn-any-endpoint Correct a contradiction Commit: e70cc8a440db302af9de6e29eb65a676ade4b723 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e70cc8a440db302af9de6e29eb65a676ade4b723 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-02 (Mon, 02 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1504 from igorlord/stream-concurrency-editorial Editorial: initial offsets -> initial limits Commit: 7c2061c986f8fc853bda49cbcb94443351f3df67 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c2061c986f8fc853bda49cbcb94443351f3df67 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-02 (Mon, 02 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Use more words Commit: 15b72629c7a69e83ba74d0c9ab84835759673df3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/15b72629c7a69e83ba74d0c9ab84835759673df3 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-07-02 (Mon, 02 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix: octets do not have arbitrary length Commit: 83f3ff167cea43d950441960519b9f2c4d319656 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83f3ff167cea43d950441960519b9f2c4d319656 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-07-02 (Mon, 02 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add TP disable_migration to the registry Commit: 1ce56f042e9dbd5c4d60c28dc912aa041b4d8e07 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ce56f042e9dbd5c4d60c28dc912aa041b4d8e07 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-02 (Mon, 02 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Fix references Commit: f2bf343fee56199d48452fd795263f43983c43c9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f2bf343fee56199d48452fd795263f43983c43c9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1509 from dtikhonov/201807020840-fix-octets-of-arbirary-length Fix: octets do not have arbitrary length Commit: a11e6ade7994fa2d2d33561d9ab075f5e2e2a262 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a11e6ade7994fa2d2d33561d9ab075f5e2e2a262 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1510 from dtikhonov/201807020858-add-disable-migration-to-registry Add TP disable_migration to the registry Commit: 9dcc013f004b8fce51c9fff2beb517c841ef1204 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9dcc013f004b8fce51c9fff2beb517c841ef1204 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1501 from quicwg/define-rebinding Define NAT rebinding better Commit: 08ed4e3796cf1caeb2b03b3671ab859ef0ad84c4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08ed4e3796cf1caeb2b03b3671ab859ef0ad84c4 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix number agreement: a number _is_ reduced Commit: 70dcd4af391f969c04924aeec4ac0b2ebaa0eaaf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/70dcd4af391f969c04924aeec4ac0b2ebaa0eaaf Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add text to handle PADDING and CC Commit: 7b07552ecb714c16d4e9ebf2b233eb8586ec8aad https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b07552ecb714c16d4e9ebf2b233eb8586ec8aad Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-04 (Wed, 04 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1515 from dtikhonov/201807031124-number-is-reduced Fix number agreement: a number _is_ reduced Commit: ba7151b6bf3098e2c8cdb442b58bd4237557b49b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba7151b6bf3098e2c8cdb442b58bd4237557b49b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-04 (Wed, 04 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1517 from quicwg/padding Add cautionary text about PADDING and congestion control Commit: 39fce3a4bf8413b662e9b7ee70f325c9a8ff37c9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39fce3a4bf8413b662e9b7ee70f325c9a8ff37c9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-05 (Thu, 05 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Use APPLICATION_CLOSE for hq errors Closes #1521. 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Fixes #1490.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1525

Commit Summary

  • Tolerate unknown stream types

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1524 by largely cribbing the RFC7540 text. I believe this is what we've all been assuming all along; if not, scream now. (Assumes presence of, but doesn't build on, #1525.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1526 -- Commit Summary -- * Add extensibility section -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (38) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1526.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1526.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1526 ----==_mimepart_5b3e5f0a281af_7cfb3fc33b564f8061325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1524 by largely cribbing the RFC7540 text. I believe this is what we've all been assuming all along; if not, scream now.

(Assumes presence of, but doesn't build on, #1525.)

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1526

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  • Add extensibility section

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----==_mimepart_5b3e5f0a281af_7cfb3fc33b564f8061325-- From nobody Thu Jul 5 17:01:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EC3130DDB for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:00:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id esUkc-hGSLpa for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC5A130E22 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:00:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530835240; bh=kPsLU0gUhy+ipZV8AnSh+BTx9CzEBv7u0l21FUi1g14=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TqpgU+gsAn9ig/LKr4CLTZuaYIP2NXPW7GpT2muqSkpbe9jHp0+TQJP21CuDnAxqx O726FYRMZ2THUts8xYZhCAyl/o42w8mCLHXoakD0ctzRyaPC/kKDu00DVShpQuKByE qNfLohpq2rc288O55CScoDCyfkwsDGFWKflVbE0g= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tolerate unknown stream types, add greasing (#1525) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3eb128c3fd3_2a993fd0ef054f889569e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 00:00:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3eb128c3fd3_2a993fd0ef054f889569e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. Seems reasonable to me. > unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already -known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at -the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}). +known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC +STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT +consider such streams to be an error of any kind. You might want to point out that these cannot include QPACK header blocks unless that is explicitly negotiated. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1525#pullrequestreview-134853553 ----==_mimepart_5b3eb128c3fd3_2a993fd0ef054f889569e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Seems reasonable to me.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.

You might want to point out that these cannot include QPACK header blocks unless that is explicitly negotiated.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

I remember writing that text...

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +protocol elements.  Implementations MUST discard frames and unidirectional
+streams that have unknown or unsupported types.  This means that any of these
+extension points can be safely used by extensions without prior arrangement or
+negotiation.
+
+Extensions that could change the semantics of existing protocol components MUST
+be negotiated before being used.  For example, an extension that changes the
+layout of the HEADERS frame cannot be used until the peer has given a positive
+signal that this is acceptable. In this case, it could also be necessary to
+coordinate when the revised layout comes into effect.
+
+This document doesn't mandate a specific method for negotiating the use of an
+extension but notes that a setting ({{settings-parameters}}) could be used for
+that purpose.  If both peers set a value that indicates willingness to use the
+extension, then the extension can be used.  If a setting is used for extension
+negotiation, the initial value MUST be defined in such a fashion that the

s/initial/default/ - hq has a slightly different notion of how settings apply than h2.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1311,6 +1339,10 @@ Version Negotiation packet.
 A client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation packet that lists the client's chosen
 version.
 
+A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Version Negotiation packet.  A
+client that sends additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0
+after a Retry packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}.

It's not OK to reset the packet numbers, because you just created a two-time pad. The same key and nonce, with different inputs (the version number). That's disastrous.

The mention of Retry is a mistake though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +775,29 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, it MAY attempt to
+send data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.  However, a
+client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets.  The keys

I realize now the source of the confusion. You are concerned about the case where maybe all this 0-RTT is received (and can be processed). I'm more concerned about catastrophic compromise of packet protection. I think that the nonce reuse thing is more urgent.

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Thanks, @martinthomson .

While on the subject of the Frame Type field, the draft leaves its format ambiguous. It is marked (i), which usually suggests a variable-length encoding, but all other fields that use variable-length encoding spell this out.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Regardless of urgency, I think this covers both cases a little better.

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@igorlord, Section 5 says:

The Frame Type field uses a variable length integer encoding (see Section 7.1) [...]

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This isn't purely editorial, because it could be argued that the last version of the draft modified APPLICATION_CLOSE. We'll have to ensure taht this is included in the changelog. 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The addition of the Frame Type field meant that pointing
APPLICATION_CLOSE at CONNECTION_CLOSE was a mistake.

This isn't purely editorial, because it could be argued that the last
version of the draft modified APPLICATION_CLOSE. We'll have to ensure
taht this is included in the changelog.

Closes #1508.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1528

Commit Summary

  • Separate APPLICATION_CLOSE from CONNECTION_CLOSE

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -601,6 +601,11 @@ the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
 The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
 provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
 
+A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT
+packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client that sends
+additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry
+packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}.
+

Me neither - the thought was to use the dcid given in the retry - which could lead to a target that does not accept the tokens. But dcid cannot change from when tikens were forged.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -601,6 +601,11 @@ the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
 The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
 provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
 
+A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT
+packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client that sends
+additional 0-RTT packets MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry
+packet, see {{retry-0rtt-pn}}.
+

Me neither - the thought was to use the dcid given in the retry - which could lead to a target that does not accept the tokens. But dcid cannot change from when tikens were forged.

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The draft doesn't say what the default should be. I think that it should be the value of the setting, which would be more efficient than the only sensible alternative (that is, 0). I don't see many encoders using less than the full table size for QPACK.

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----==_mimepart_5b3ef52030cc1_752f3fb481010f843634f2-- From nobody Thu Jul 5 21:50:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5BF130E94 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 21:50:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JfVFbowelawM for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 21:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB741130DEB for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 21:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 21:50:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530852654; bh=H4kbFoHeli7j4NB8pfndqlAKaXC/C0GVmEHOnYXQruE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cDfkPOafNf5ZhOSGCC1zinEjrVblaf3Q+k0ADHLSl/x70pMLy0D1jzMUJKY68zViv mMUMyBg2zzGqrQKuxmmeQXkyNJr1KKh5BoqCYc+o/subyXL+3JedR7bizlCHVxE3Rf 3JzvV3nbTBU5C5Wssw2nmMt4XHqk6b02A6BYAPpI= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN (#1514) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3ef52e2b2c0_3c9c2ae625bc8f50964d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 04:50:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3ef52e2b2c0_3c9c2ae625bc8f50964d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it does not matter if the packet got to a server - but it might have gotten to an attacker. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514#issuecomment-402924883 ----==_mimepart_5b3ef52e2b2c0_3c9c2ae625bc8f50964d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think it does not matter if the packet got to a server - but it might have gotten to an attacker.

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I realize that my example was flawed. You have to allow for an increa= se for any unacknowledged packets less than the minimum acknowledged pack= et number in the ACK. In the example above, the last ACK stopped at 10 a= nd the new one starts at 20. The naive interpretation says that 9 packet= s might have arrived, been acknowledged, and had the acknowledgment lost = and subsequently abandoned. However, packet 8 might have arrived after 1= 0 was acknowledged.

The other thing is that this assumes that if you acknowledge packet 20= , then you would also acknowledge packets with higher numbers. This is p= robably a safe assumption, but we would have to require it.

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Fixed in 3aea50d

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Closed #1458.

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UDP datagrams, to be consistent with wording later on, and to be more clear about the difference from packet.

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@rpaulo, looking at Section 9.5 and this issue, I'm not sure what more we could add. Is there something else we should be saying?

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CRYPTO_HS, now aka CRYPTO

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----==_mimepart_5b3f3cbfb32df_467d2adcc38c8f50106675-- From nobody Fri Jul 6 07:40:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5067130F1F for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:40:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x-vRTig2DWax for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC4B9130EBA for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:40:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530888018; bh=gcyW1jZA4QkWFKyvYm04w+7PSfV2ILU1r8fO1r+pctA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XRSnRq5uznqX8VkYHm5nE1N7LrHAcgS6fZ8pIGWLN9z1B48jyg4IyF38vBW8SpQl/ zWtBrTwz8AVLNk33jdSo5yvRgmFlV9s9Q4z/qzTWHLVFJ3ddPKpxF7Pys4v2B6sQJ/ 8f3+kbZtA5yMotsIMWYrFMzU0HsqI1/cfh+fq46k= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tolerate unknown stream types, add greasing (#1525) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3f7f52947af_35c62afdad402f609913c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:40:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3f7f52947af_35c62afdad402f609913c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue commented on this pull request. > unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already -known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at -the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}). +known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC +STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT +consider such streams to be an error of any kind. + +### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease} + +Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement +that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can +be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY also be sent on What do you mean by application-layer padding in this case? If this is some property of the mapping that can be used to add additional padding to QUIC's PADDING frames then is it worth pointing out in security considerations? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1525#pullrequestreview-135040694 ----==_mimepart_5b3f7f52947af_35c62afdad402f609913c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
+
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
+that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
+be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on

What do you mean by application-layer padding in this case? If this is some property of the mapping that can be used to add additional padding to QUIC's PADDING frames then is it worth pointing out in security considerations?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
+
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
+that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
+be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on

Perhaps. HTTP/2 allowed padding on the HEADERS and DATA frames, to make analysis of the traffic more difficult. QUIC can pad individual packets to different / uniform sizes, but I'm assuming that most stacks won't generate traffic where none exists. An application layer can make analysis more difficult by sending traffic even when no requests are happening.

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Actually, these should probably have moved to QPACK along with the frame definitions.

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??? Section 4 says:

QPACK defines two settings which are included in the HTTP/QUIC SETTING= S frame.

SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE (0x1):
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Now, that TODO clearly needs a fix, but I'm not clear what's missing o= n this issue,

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue commented on this pull request. > unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already -known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at -the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}). +known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC +STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT +consider such streams to be an error of any kind. + +### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease} + +Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement +that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can +be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY also be sent on Ok so I get the problem, this is more like a background level of noise. I guess I had been expecting transport libraries to handle packing and padding with some influence from the application. It wouldn't be a stretch for them to provide an API that would allow the caller to declare a background level of traffic, however the transport won't have any stream to send this on. In that case, I like the side effect of this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1525#discussion_r200724410 ----==_mimepart_5b3faa31695c3_1d72b0a2fab0f54222df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
+
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
+that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
+be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on

Ok so I get the problem, this is more like a background level of noise.

I guess I had been expecting transport libraries to handle packing and padding with some influence from the application. It wouldn't be a stretch for them to provide an API that would allow the caller to declare a background level of traffic, however the transport won't have any stream to send this on.

In that case, I like the side effect of this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
+
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
+that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
+be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on

Added a mention in Security Considerations.

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.

Borrowed the extension language that you MUST NOT send anything that modifies the state of the core protocol, QPACK, or any other extension unless you know the peer supports it. Do you think that's sufficient?

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----==_mimepart_5b3faee8842bb_756f2adf2b43ef602211ee-- From nobody Fri Jul 6 11:11:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FEC130DE6 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 11:11:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rvebnlahzaFB for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 11:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E6FF1274D0 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 11:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 11:11:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530900715; bh=G1SNZhkmWunEXC0QQTCMwB4L8TZXYTEgLOI3ZxPt+Hg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DXMErTju8hpdKGv83Z2EkvdhA1uni13hDrcmKssAIp8wkfJ5FvQRX2fOW20MaYjW7 6w8k/itpfPrUOBxyg5tcvf+8sM3mlVH4GCz8QV/mmIRqfFO8sdG/SnIZjE0yEI/e8/ NNN7KN8xEJ0W6LeR4wdRa/vvYFMfmc2Urfd/UPEE= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Only Update max_ack_delay for Retransmittable Packets (#1531) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3fb0eb7356_3d2b3fe054e68f8815122c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:11:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3fb0eb7356_3d2b3fe054e68f8815122c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I came across this pseudocode while debugging an issue in my implementation related to it: ``` UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay): // min_rtt ignores ack delay. min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt) // Adjust for ack delay if it's plausible. if (latest_rtt - min_rtt > ack_delay): latest_rtt -= ack_delay // Only save into max ack delay if it's used // for rtt calculation and is not ack only. if (!sent_packets[ack.largest_acked].ack_only) max_ack_delay = max(max_ack_delay, ack_delay) ``` Should this be ignoring all packets that don't contain any rentrasmittable frames, instead of just `ack_only` packets? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1531 ----==_mimepart_5b3fb0eb7356_3d2b3fe054e68f8815122c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I came across this pseudocode while debugging an issue in my implementation related to it:

  UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay):
    // min_rtt ignores ack delay.
    min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt)
    // Adjust for ack delay if it's plausible.
    if (latest_rtt - min_rtt > ack_delay):
      latest_rtt -= ack_delay
      // Only save into max ack delay if it's used
      // for rtt calculation and is not ack only.
      if (!sent_packets[ack.largest_acked].ack_only)
        max_ack_delay = max(max_ack_delay, ack_delay)

Should this be ignoring all packets that don't contain any rentrasmittable frames, instead of just ack_only packets?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes #1529; finishes what #1358 started. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1532 -- Commit Summary -- * Move HTTP_*PACK_COMPRESSION_FAILED to QPACK -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (6) M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (24) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1532.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1532.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1532 ----==_mimepart_5b3fb1962749a_1dde2b120affef5021814e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes #1529; finishes what #1358 started.

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----==_mimepart_5b3fb8183d768_23992afc9ff42f60447e9-- From nobody Fri Jul 6 13:21:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F53B130F0E for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 13:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1jfKnvaW8K5b for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 13:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5996B130DD8 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 13:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 13:21:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530908494; bh=T+FED1s3imTbsV4dmOZqq0lh5FanSoT6HZ0Gi1yOqN4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BRKrE4xBlxs7ITJlKMXk0qiCjOQmWHdMmCMWrhikhep2McHXughOOEsEuymZiXJOq fq/HeXfvxKZ5VXA0k4ZfAzlV8EqE0GPtavCdoJ7mFxl0mtb2sYb1gXY4wQn4hAPm/C GRHYdIZQzxDhPhB5PTH1Xuxt3BFP8hBKlw3uEnm0= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Optimize definition IP addr in TP PreferredAddress (#1533) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3fcf4e4c891_71883fa6391b0f841234c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:21:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3fcf4e4c891_71883fa6391b0f841234c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are two reasons for this change. First, having the IP address stored as an opaque string 4 to 255 octets in length does not make it clear in what format the IP address is stored. The choice of 4 and 16 bytes makes the format obvious. Second, the longer of the two possibilities is 16 bytes. There is no reason to allow for longer values. Only allowing 4 and 16 bytes make the checks both stricter and simpler and implementations more efficient. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533 -- Commit Summary -- * Optimize definition IP addr in TP PreferredAddress -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (13) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533 ----==_mimepart_5b3fcf4e4c891_71883fa6391b0f841234c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There are two reasons for this change.

First, having the IP address stored as an opaque string 4 to 255 octets
in length does not make it clear in what format the IP address is stored.
The choice of 4 and 16 bytes makes the format obvious.

Second, the longer of the two possibilities is 16 bytes. There is no
reason to allow for longer values. Only allowing 4 and 16 bytes make
the checks both stricter and simpler and implementations more efficient.

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  • Optimize definition IP addr in TP PreferredAddress

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This isn't purely editorial, because it could be argued that the last version of the draft modified APPLICATION_CLOSE. We'll have to ensure taht this is included in the changelog. 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A couple of comments > If the stream header indicates a stream type which is not supported by the -recipient, this SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type -HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE. The semantics of the remainder of the stream are -unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already -known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at -the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}). +recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are +unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING +frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider such +streams to be an error of any kind. + +Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already known to +support. Stream types which could modify the state or semantics of existing This text recommends (SHOULD NOT) negotiating supported stream types. Is this recommendation necessary? > @@ -1651,6 +1670,18 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document. | Push Stream | 0x50 | {{server-push}} | Server | | ---------------- | ------ | -------------------------- | ------ | +Additionally, each code of the format `0x1f * N` for values of N in the +range (0..8) (that is, `0x00`, `0x1f`, etc., through `0xf8`), the following Let's list them all; it's only 8 values. ('0x00', '0x1f', '0x3e', '0x5d', '0x7c', '0x9b', '0xba', '0xd9', '0xf8'). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1525#pullrequestreview-135150465 ----==_mimepart_5b3fd61e1917d_2ef7d3fc95858ef8870571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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A couple of comments

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 If the stream header indicates a stream type which is not supported by the
-recipient, this SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type
-HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE.  The semantics of the remainder of the stream are
-unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are
+unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING
+frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider such
+streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already known to
+support.   Stream types which could modify the state or semantics of existing

This text recommends (SHOULD NOT) negotiating supported stream types. Is this recommendation necessary?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1651,6 +1670,18 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | Push Stream      | 0x50   | {{server-push}}            | Server |
 | ---------------- | ------ | -------------------------- | ------ |
 
+Additionally, each code of the format `0x1f * N` for values of N in the
+range (0..8) (that is, `0x00`, `0x1f`, etc., through `0xf8`), the following

Let's list them all; it's only 8 values. ('0x00', '0x1f', '0x3e', '0x5d', '0x7c', '0x9b', '0xba', '0xd9', '0xf8').

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@martinthomson : I think this is fine, given that I don't expect that anyone has implemented the ACK_ECN frame yet. We can reduce later pain if we take this in now, I think. I'll merge.

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Merged #1520.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -440,10 +440,10 @@ Important:
 
 ### Encryption Level Changes
 
-At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS signals QUIC,
-providing the new level and the encryption keys.  These events are not
-asynchronous, they always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new
-handshake octets, or after TLS produces handshake octets.
+At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS provides QUIC with
+the new level and the encryption keys.  These events are not asynchronous, they

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > If the stream header indicates a stream type which is not supported by the -recipient, this SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type -HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE. The semantics of the remainder of the stream are -unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already -known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at -the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}). +recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are +unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING +frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider such +streams to be an error of any kind. + +Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already known to +support. Stream types which could modify the state or semantics of existing The recommendation is purely because if you send types that aren't supported, you're wasting bandwidth. It's not an interop issue, so perhaps that doesn't rise to the level of SHOULD NOT. Would "MAY send" be more affirming? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 If the stream header indicates a stream type which is not supported by the
-recipient, this SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type
-HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE.  The semantics of the remainder of the stream are
-unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are
+unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING
+frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider such
+streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already known to
+support.   Stream types which could modify the state or semantics of existing

The recommendation is purely because if you send types that aren't supported, you're wasting bandwidth. It's not an interop issue, so perhaps that doesn't rise to the level of SHOULD NOT. Would "MAY send" be more affirming?

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In all but two places, variable-length integer fields are explicitly stated to be variable-length encoded. Since this seems like an implicit rule, make sure that all fields use the same language (otherwise, the departure from the de facto norm may cause confusion).

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@martinthomson, yes, that sect= ion as well as Section 2.1. Notational Conventions point to the same thin= g.

Nevertheless, in all places but two variance-length encoded integers a= re explicitly stated to be such in frame descriptions. A very rare depar= ture from this convention would cause an unnecessary confusion that the d= eparture was purposeful.

I'd just add the appropriate language to those places... See PR #1534.

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----==_mimepart_5b3fe59961abc_22aa2af0ee402f5453096-- From nobody Fri Jul 6 14:56:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCE9131054 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 14:56:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xrokGKogHHHR for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 14:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87F68131055 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 14:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:56:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530914206; bh=CN18yRIdzV2Rta8pbmQ81X3PV7+R0S4sYARuzUkEdU0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kzTWI9q4Mry/jJ5oxdoIcH1Lcvisbj3Zmk+JwA6YchexjdbxEIS8FyXZHDTeKtCLR lzsy89hLIq76fvyJQnse3z4fhp1PoUQxtlib0jB1YbUe67/qb29Kq6jsf5wdR5pMtU SusS4B9RHYieemYUEwIJsUinKCKDGNTx7fKFeNLU= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tolerate unknown stream types, add greasing (#1525) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3fe59edc496_77503fd46dc00f7c8598d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 21:56:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3fe59edc496_77503fd46dc00f7c8598d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue commented on this pull request. > If the stream header indicates a stream type which is not supported by the -recipient, this SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type -HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE. The semantics of the remainder of the stream are -unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already -known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at -the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}). +recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are +unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING +frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider such +streams to be an error of any kind. + +Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already known to +support. Stream types which could modify the state or semantics of existing If you want to make that change it would make sense to add the sentence from this paragraph to the previous one e.g. _Implementations MAY send stream types the peer is not already known to support. If the recipient does not support a stream type, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are unknown. (optional: add comment about wasted bandwidth)..._ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1525#discussion_r200780118 ----==_mimepart_5b3fe59edc496_77503fd46dc00f7c8598d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 If the stream header indicates a stream type which is not supported by the
-recipient, this SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type
-HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE.  The semantics of the remainder of the stream are
-unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are
+unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING
+frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider such
+streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already known to
+support.   Stream types which could modify the state or semantics of existing

If you want to make that change it would make sense to add the sentence from this paragraph to the previous one e.g.

Implementations MAY send stream types the peer is not already known to support. If the recipient does not support a stream type, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are unknown. (optional: add comment about wasted bandwidth)...

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Technically, it's not a string, it's a length-prefixed sequence of byt= es. I think all this actually does is to make the length implicit from t= he IP version. @martinthomson ha= d suggested having the explicit length prefix, so I'll invoke him to defe= nd it. ;-)

Making it implicit saves a byte, if nothing else. If you see an IP ver= sion you don't recognize (and therefore don't know how long the following= field is), you're probably bailing on the entire TP anyway. Fortunately= , the value is also length-prefixed and could be skipped as a whole.

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The contents of the +Retry packet are not protected. Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet +contains the long header including the connection IDs, but omits the Length, +Packet Number, and Payload fields. These are replaced with: + +ODCIL: + +: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field as an unsigned + 8-bit integer. This field does not use the same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL + fields. Can we keep the encoding the same as the DCIL? It's unnecessary, I agree, but it seems cleaner, since all CILs are then similarly encoded. > + +Retry Token: + +: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address. + +The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that +the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet. + +The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID +field. The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID +of subsequent packets that it sends. + +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. I don't think there's much value in sending Retry in response to 0RTT packets. Sending it without decrypting the incoming packet makes me queasy, and sending it a few times after receiving the Initial sounds like a strange retransmission strategy. It's easy to see a server generating a ton of Retry packets in response to Initial + 0RTT packets, so it seems reasonable to recommend better behavior here, and I like the text that's there. I don't mind weakening it to a SHOULD though. > +the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet. + +The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID +field. The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID +of subsequent packets that it sends. + +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the missing "an" > +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. A server that will not send +additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value. A +client MUST ignore a Retry that contains an ODCIL field with a value less than +8 or greater than 18. Move this last sentence to the description of ODCIL above. > Token Length: : A variable-length integer specifying the length of the Token field, in bytes. - It may be zero if no token is present. Initial packets sent by the server - MUST include a zero-length token. + This value is zero if no token is present. Initial packets sent by the server + MUST specify a token of zero length. "token length of zero"? > -If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it -SHOULD populate the Token field. +If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection +to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the +Token field of its Initial packet. + +A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths +would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). +A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network This seems a bit strong. If the client has a token that was sent under crypto cover (NEW_TOKEN as against Retry), it seems reasonable to use it on a new network path. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+~~~
+{: #retry-format title="Retry Packet"}
+
+A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only uses the invariant portion of
+the long packet header {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}; that is, the fields up to and
+including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields.  The contents of the
+Retry packet are not protected.  Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet
+contains the long header including the connection IDs, but omits the Length,
+Packet Number, and Payload fields.  These are replaced with:
+
+ODCIL:
+
+: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field as an unsigned
+  8-bit integer.  This field does not use the same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL
+  fields.

Can we keep the encoding the same as the DCIL? It's unnecessary, I agree, but it seems cleaner, since all CILs are then similarly encoded.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Retry Token:
+
+: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address.
+
+The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that
+the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet.
+
+The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID
+field.  The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID
+of subsequent packets that it sends.
+
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.

I don't think there's much value in sending Retry in response to 0RTT packets. Sending it without decrypting the incoming packet makes me queasy, and sending it a few times after receiving the Initial sounds like a strange retransmission strategy. It's easy to see a server generating a ton of Retry packets in response to Initial + 0RTT packets, so it seems reasonable to recommend better behavior here, and I like the text that's there. I don't mind weakening it to a SHOULD though.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet.
+
+The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID
+field.  The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID
+of subsequent packets that it sends.
+
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the

missing "an"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  A server that will not send
+additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value.  A
+client MUST ignore a Retry that contains an ODCIL field with a value less than
+8 or greater than 18.

Move this last sentence to the description of ODCIL above.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Token Length:
 
 : A variable-length integer specifying the length of the Token field, in bytes.
-  It may be zero if no token is present. Initial packets sent by the server
-  MUST include a zero-length token.
+  This value is zero if no token is present.  Initial packets sent by the server
+  MUST specify a token of zero length.

"token length of zero"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it
-SHOULD populate the Token field.
+If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
+to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
+Token field of its Initial packet.
+
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
+would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
+A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network

This seems a bit strong. If the client has a token that was sent under crypto cover (NEW_TOKEN as against Retry), it seems reasonable to use it on a new network path.

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That's a default value for the setting, but there is a starting value for the dynamic table size (prior to any size update instructions). What is that? Sorry for not being clearer.

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----==_mimepart_5b3ff6b7eebcf_61e83fc2f65d4f7870388-- From nobody Fri Jul 6 16:13:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB98212777C for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 16:13:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mvVVgJSCnu8N for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 16:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC750124D68 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 16:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:13:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1530918804; bh=L7D2ygHCF0PpKqAroLbbFpm/mB7UstDBvmtEmwVRgec=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SsYFRUlSbd9ytl3zVUsce22x5PZ/8QT1qzwfGPq7LNAAV8KFV8QTSSMd6a1LN5RKA HZPeoTACGyFCvKjfMsmNfZGYKcm2k890fyOG4FeJvVde6iTc85bvKqXWoMnNN7aKQw VArHtdH2vcjNtXdi6ZuWjTkHklOpS4wImtI+4YsI= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN (#1514) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b3ff794a1a06_624e2ade13b3ef54579e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:13:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b3ff794a1a06_624e2ade13b3ef54579e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -770,6 +776,33 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see {{packet-numbers}}). +### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn} + +Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected +packets. + +After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, 0-RTT packets are +likely to be lost or discarded by the server, especially if the server changes s/likely to be/likely to have been/ > @@ -770,6 +776,33 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see {{packet-numbers}}). +### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn} + +Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected +packets. + +After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, 0-RTT packets are +likely to be lost or discarded by the server, especially if the server changes +its connection ID with a Retry packet. A client MAY attempt to send data in s/send data/resend data/ > @@ -731,12 +736,13 @@ If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the Token field of its Initial packet. -A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths -would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). -A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network -attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or -network interface. A client needs to start the connection process over if it -migrates prior to completing the handshake. +A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token could allow different +connections to be identified as coming from the same endpoint (see also +{{migration-linkability}}). A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that +its point of network attachment has changed since it was last used; that is, if This seems too strong -- see my comment on the other PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1514#pullrequestreview-135179550 ----==_mimepart_5b3ff794a1a06_624e2ade13b3ef54579e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +776,33 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, 0-RTT packets are
+likely to be lost or discarded by the server, especially if the server changes

s/likely to be/likely to have been/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -770,6 +776,33 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, 0-RTT packets are
+likely to be lost or discarded by the server, especially if the server changes
+its connection ID with a Retry packet.  A client MAY attempt to send data in

s/send data/resend data/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -731,12 +736,13 @@ If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
 to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
 Token field of its Initial packet.
 
-A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
-would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it
-migrates prior to completing the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token could allow different
+connections to be identified as coming from the same endpoint (see also
+{{migration-linkability}}).  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that
+its point of network attachment has changed since it was last used; that is, if

This seems too strong -- see my comment on the other PR.

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Tying length to the IP version makes it apparent what the format of the IP address is without any additional verbiage. Such verbiage is not present in the current version of the Draft. As it stands, one could imagine (however perversely) that the IP address is a NUL-terminated ASCII string, such as "::1" (hence the minimum of 4 bytes), "192.168.100.25", or "2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533#issuecomment-403208120 ----==_mimepart_5b40a015d9e78_44263fd253604f7c2186b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The proposed change does more than simply make the IP address length i= mplicit. Tying length to the IP version makes it apparent what the forma= t of the IP address is without any additional verbiage. Such verbiage is= not present in the current version of the Draft.

As it stands, one could imagine (however perversely) that the IP addre= ss is a NUL-terminated ASCII string, such as "::1" (hence the minimum of = 4 bytes), "192.168.100.25", or "2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334".=

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Draft-13 says:

The Initial packet has two additional header fields that follow the
normal Long Header.

But of course, this means that the variable length token length follows the variable length PN, which is encrypted. I guess the editors wanted to make the header parsing code more interesting. It certainly will not help load balancers, firewalls, etc., which may want to parse the tokens during DDOS defense.

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@mikkelfj , got it. So SRT may indeed be useful for clients in such applications.

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----==_mimepart_5b4172d327d50_23622ad7ee64af501801c-- From nobody Sat Jul 7 19:19:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D699C130F6A for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cm9ZzUpVxlLw for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 19:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2706130F7E for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 19:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:18:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531016339; bh=u0LqwNHZ7GcECjF8GoGQCVmaa9hGJtG6PpY/ErmAAJ8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nq/CheXnGo2D79OjgjYKyGZAVJ5m2Uexzc7hwR72tt7a9sc+oemS8/bytQsBmiy5Q 3AZeVJlKdig/NPiTjxWvpAKB8rUAkCRiH2q7hlqYrlKUzohNnMkY3FErgOc8RJlxS2 Us+/xgqcfJEvXlY9phxh5NzHHH6rSsMfGqvezm+U= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reference to static table entry cannot use relative index (#1538) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4174934b1e5_292e2b1115926f5c174587"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:19:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4174934b1e5_292e2b1115926f5c174587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit QPACK [Section 5.2.1](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-qpack-01#section-5.2.1) states: > The S bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table. The header field name is represented using the relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 6-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]). Relative indexes are defined in Section 2.2.1 only in the context of the dynamic table. The wording above is not clear how relative indexes are to be used with the static table. Is the intent here to say that when S=0, relative index is used and when S=1, the index is the static entry's index? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1538 ----==_mimepart_5b4174934b1e5_292e2b1115926f5c174587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

QPACK Section 5.2.1 states:

The S bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table. The header field name is represented using the relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 6-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]).

Relative indexes are defined in Section 2.2.1 only in the context of the dynamic table. The wording above is not clear how relative indexes are to be used with the static table.

Is the intent here to say that when S=0, relative index is used and when S=1, the index is the static entry's index?

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If a "retry-initial" packet can be distinguished from a "non-retry-initial" (bit in the header that is later verified through AEAD, for example), a server that would never send a zero-length token could see that tampering has taken place right away.

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----==_mimepart_5b417b09eddcd_23752ad7ee64af5015522c-- From nobody Sat Jul 7 21:20:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC59C130DFA for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 21:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V6SMkqdCsRW8 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 21:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E934130DD4 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 21:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 21:20:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531023646; bh=v9AAhNESd1BztPK/WnLWDsyieeb108n/SVb/U9cOAHo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xJ/ILrJu/wNKuskbBh23T/lpYGoO84dlwopls2easzf4qpiKyw13l7mVjoe0H7NU8 2xbx/gbvUgJ9sbD78sy4gagy2IpB4EAaGOty3yz30MmkD/Y43wO1qWYux12G8H6XBQ SO+f/Pa6oGrwVhgGMcr081Sz74dM3Alq9tz3M6MI= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long header + token and PNE (#1535) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b41911e83c77_714e3f81d3544f7c44753f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 04:20:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b41911e83c77_714e3f81d3544f7c44753f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is what I understand so far: =E2=80=A2 Initial packet starts with long header, included encrypted PNE;= =E2=80=A2 Continues with varint length + retry token; =E2=80=A2 Then encrypted payload. The encryption is done before PNE, as usual. The "nonce" used for PNE starts at (index of PNE)+4. This may well fall i= nside the retry token. Do we even care? The "authenticated" data for AEAD covers the long header and the retry to= ken. Or is it just the long header? -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1535#issuecomment-403261225= ----==_mimepart_5b41911e83c77_714e3f81d3544f7c44753f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here is what I understand so far:

=E2=80=A2 Initial packet starts with long header, included encrypted P= NE;

=E2=80=A2 Continues with varint length + retry token;

=E2=80=A2 Then encrypted payload.

The encryption is done before PNE, as usual.

The "nonce" used for PNE starts at (index of PNE)+4. This may well fal= l inside the retry token. Do we even care?

The "authenticated" data for AEAD covers the long header and the retry= token. Or is it just the long header?

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It is the client that needs to ensure that it's original DCID was received by the server - how would a bit fix that?

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Hello, i wondering to understand how this issue is cleared in case of short header format ?
Long Header just contzine explicit length field may be used for packet sample, what about short header ?

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----==_mimepart_5b41d2bfb6351_88083fe8d0e9ef78378867-- From nobody Sun Jul 8 02:05:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F93130F7E for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:05:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PkceQAXY-kv2 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0734130F80 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:05:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531040723; bh=ELrw8vVz+NUKWG/dx6INvs3iUUag6TuH4Edl5S8W3aA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HwG8Shw/nOwpt83Kw8yfjVWTGiLaZ515jUZ8zYjwZeGzA0SQSRRhSU4KUe+0rfGVo vdRO24m/OHvXYYRYL8RiPIYab5gXdXmgzPJNDvlGHRhjUWtnWsUacTv+mmu1C0KQ9b amZhYmkHvJ+/senGSkDTSQFJ7DNVRVHSP0k1+vvo= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b41d3d3f046_6dd53f8e9897ef80176644"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:05:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b41d3d3f046_6dd53f8e9897ef80176644 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The proposal is for handshake AD to include the "retried initial" bit in addition to the client's DCID in the handshake initial secret derivation. If the middlebox executes "inject retry and then drop token from the retired initial" and bleaches the "retried initial" bit from the retired initial packet, handshake will fail. But if the middlebox allows the "retried initial" bit through, the server will be able to tell that the token is not the one it sent. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-403273655 ----==_mimepart_5b41d3d3f046_6dd53f8e9897ef80176644 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The proposal is for handshake AD to include the "retried initial" bit = in addition to the client's DCID in the handshake initial secret derivati= on.

If the middlebox executes "inject retry and then drop token from the r= etired initial" and bleaches the "retried initial" bit from the retired i= nitial packet, handshake will fail. But if the middlebox allows the "ret= ried initial" bit through, the server will be able to tell that the token= is not the one it sent.

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But there is a (perceived) issue even without considering retry at all= : a middlebox might detect a pattern in the initial packet and modify con= tent in a non-observerable manner, pehaps just to be "helpful". This coul= d include swapping bits in ODCID. Only a full tag verification would prev= ent this.

If the server adds the clients initial tag as a server TP, the client = can reject the handshake trivially if manipulated. This might extend to r= etry handling, but the concern is not retry here.

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I like these changes. Can we adopt them as baseline for the 7th interop? The retry mechanism of draft-13 is pretty hard to implement without those. > @@ -745,6 +745,9 @@ handled separately. sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) + len(source_connection_id) + len(payload_length) + 4 +if packet_type == Initial: + sample_offset += len(token_length) + + len(token) ~~~ Unless I am missing something, len(token_length) is only available *after* the PN has been decrypted. > @@ -745,6 +745,9 @@ handled separately. sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) + len(source_connection_id) + len(payload_length) + 4 +if packet_type == Initial: + sample_offset += len(token_length) + + len(token) ~~~ So we have a circular dependency when decrypting. See issue #1535. > ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +~~~ +{: #retry-format title="Retry Packet"} + +A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only uses the invariant portion of +the long packet header {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}; that is, the fields up to and +including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields. The contents of the +Retry packet are not protected. Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet +contains the long header including the connection IDs, but omits the Length, +Packet Number, and Payload fields. These are replaced with: + +ODCIL: + +: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field as an unsigned + 8-bit integer. This field does not use the same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL + fields. I agree with @janaiyengar. Having the same encoding would remove error conditions such as 1<=ODCIL<=3, or ODCIL>18. But of course it would introduce the error "(ODCIL&0xF0)!=0". So maybe it is a wash. > @@ -745,6 +745,9 @@ handled separately. sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) + len(source_connection_id) + len(payload_length) + 4 +if packet_type == Initial: + sample_offset += len(token_length) + + len(token) ~~~ My bad. This is actually addressed later, as the token has now moved in front of the PN. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Token (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Length (i) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Packet Number (8/16/32) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Payload (*) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Yes. This new design solves issue #1535. > -If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it -SHOULD populate the Token field. +If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection +to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the +Token field of its Initial packet. + +A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths +would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). +A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network @janaiyengar , no, this is not too strong. There is a real privacy risk to reusing tokens in different contexts. This is pretty similar to the privacy issues with TCP Fast Open, or with TLS resume. Encryption of New Token provides protection against on path elements, but it does not provide protection against the server itself. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@huitema approved this pull request.

I like these changes. Can we adopt them as baseline for the 7th interop? The retry mechanism of draft-13 is pretty hard to implement without those.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -745,6 +745,9 @@ handled separately.
 sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) +
                     len(source_connection_id) +
                     len(payload_length) + 4
+if packet_type == Initial:
+    sample_offset += len(token_length) +
+                     len(token)
 ~~~

Unless I am missing something, len(token_length) is only available after the PN has been decrypted.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -745,6 +745,9 @@ handled separately.
 sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) +
                     len(source_connection_id) +
                     len(payload_length) + 4
+if packet_type == Initial:
+    sample_offset += len(token_length) +
+                     len(token)
 ~~~

So we have a circular dependency when decrypting. See issue #1535.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+~~~
+{: #retry-format title="Retry Packet"}
+
+A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only uses the invariant portion of
+the long packet header {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}; that is, the fields up to and
+including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields.  The contents of the
+Retry packet are not protected.  Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet
+contains the long header including the connection IDs, but omits the Length,
+Packet Number, and Payload fields.  These are replaced with:
+
+ODCIL:
+
+: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field as an unsigned
+  8-bit integer.  This field does not use the same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL
+  fields.

I agree with @janaiyengar. Having the same encoding would remove error conditions such as 1<=ODCIL<=3, or ODCIL>18. But of course it would introduce the error "(ODCIL&0xF0)!=0". So maybe it is a wash.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -745,6 +745,9 @@ handled separately.
 sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) +
                     len(source_connection_id) +
                     len(payload_length) + 4
+if packet_type == Initial:
+    sample_offset += len(token_length) +
+                     len(token)
 ~~~

My bad. This is actually addressed later, as the token has now moved in front of the PN.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                            Token (*)                        ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                           Length (i)                        ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                     Packet Number (8/16/32)                   |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                          Payload (*)                        ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Yes. This new design solves issue #1535.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it
-SHOULD populate the Token field.
+If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
+to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
+Token field of its Initial packet.
+
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
+would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
+A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network

@janaiyengar , no, this is not too strong. There is a real privacy risk to reusing tokens in different contexts. This is pretty similar to the privacy issues with TCP Fast Open, or with TLS resume. Encryption of New Token provides protection against on path elements, but it does not provide protection against the server itself.

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As a load balancer implementor, my primary consideration is knowing wh= ether a particular bunch of octets is supposed to be server-generated or = a random DCID. If I cannot tell the difference from the packet header (w= /o performing crypto), I would prefer t stick with the assumption of "ran= dom" and then not have DCID change from the initial.

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I am realizing that I am not the best person here to assess what exact= ly crypto protects against. The TLS draft states the following, so I am = (mis-?) reading it to mean that if client and server do not see the same = original client's DCID, the handshake will fail. (And the proposal is to= include the "retry-initial" bit in the initial_secret computation.

initial_salt =3D 0x9c108f98520a5c5c32968e950e8a2c5fe06d6c38
initial_secret =3D
    HKDF-Extract(initial_salt, client_dst_connection_id)

client_initial_secret =3D
   HKDF-Expand-Label(initial_secret, "client in", Hash.length)
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   HKDF-Expand-Label(initial_secret, "server in", Hash.length)

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If a typical sender of a SR is the server, and a typical thing that a client sends is just a ACK, would size-based squelching of SR prevent most SRs from being sent?

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Currently it would be random. If there were a server negotiated DCID for 0-RTT then I'd assume it could be generally assumed that all 0-RTT initials are server generated DCID's. If it is not consitent, it would be useless as @igorlord suggests.

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----==_mimepart_5b427deabc7ee_3ca22ae121764f585873e2-- From nobody Sun Jul 8 14:17:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A729130E9C for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 14:17:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P306oAetWwO8 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5783412F1AB for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:17:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531084640; bh=ufILHpbhsey2PJofuta9wqcgwdSV8Ew7x0I7gZjxzjk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jFzE9qf0+8DCZCtSVPQovuZWcKeUue8GKcAq0VWvYj+aPSuOkzkBws9oNuqQIarSh esDvCLeivOUHWsT9LKdRDD10aB4TwLvvSoNfOJbEzdttfXOJIDfLQWxGkwcDzfXKRL CnS/jodVGYqZslvrRNLR2rGkTB4Q6zmVuKkERBBc= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b427f604232b_73582b12717faf541238533"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 21:17:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b427f604232b_73582b12717faf541238533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord not if the additional statistical rule is appied for small packets. But it would results in some some ACK's not triggering a reset. Since ACK's won't be retransmitted it could lead to a mexican standoff until timeout. The ACK's would be a response to data still in the pipeline. A server going down is probably not online again or failed-over before that pipeline has drained. So I doubt it will make much difference. However, there are also cases where many small packets are sent such as play position updates. But then chances are higher that one of the packets trigger a reset. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-403317907 ----==_mimepart_5b427f604232b_73582b12717faf541238533 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@igorlord not if the additional = statistical rule is appied for small packets. But it would results in som= e some ACK's not triggering a reset. Since ACK's won't be retransmitted i= t could lead to a mexican standoff until timeout. The ACK's would be a re= sponse to data still in the pipeline. A server going down is probably not= online again or failed-over before that pipeline has drained. So I doubt= it will make much difference.

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Yeah, it looks like it is protected - from what you have extracted. If= the client_dst_connect_id is replaced with a client_initial_aead_tag, it= would be a stronger proof. Historically initial packets were not AEAD pr= otected, so that might be part of it, but they are now. The tag is is not= trustworthy in itself - but it is very hard to create a forged initial p= acket with the same tag.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  unknown. Implementations SHOULD NOT send stream types the peer is not already
-known to support, since a stream error can be promoted to a connection error at
-the peer's discretion (see {{errors}}).
+known to support. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC
+STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT
+consider such streams to be an error of any kind.
+
+### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
+
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
+that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
+be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on

Padding using bogus frames might work, but there are two problems with this:

  1. Not all streams use frames.
  2. Padding that uses bogus unidirectional streams isn't guaranteed to be placed in the same packet as the data that it pads.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the client has a suitable token available from a previous connection, it
-SHOULD populate the Token field.
+If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
+to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
+Token field of its Initial packet.
+
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
+would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
+A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network

Using the token implies willingness to be tracked by the server. I've tweaked the language accordingly. New text on breaking tracking by the server, and tighter language on reuse.

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And, it would seem like Version Negotiation has essentially the same properties, so excluding it would be inconsistent. This allows this, explores the consequences for packet numbers (don't reset them!), and updates the recovery text to include Version Negotiation. Closes #1507. Commit: 88fc5603531cec98cab109addf990b848dbc2d4d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/88fc5603531cec98cab109addf990b848dbc2d4d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- 0-RTT, 1-RTT, same thing Commit: 620c5830091b9f5b26ed9bfdf11ddf7bfe2cba42 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/620c5830091b9f5b26ed9bfdf11ddf7bfe2cba42 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify key changes Commit: b6c48beb79867e0f961252b394612e9ebe8ce615 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b6c48beb79867e0f961252b394612e9ebe8ce615 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Redo fixes I already committed somewhere else, I swear Commit: e2b9137a7ad9f4c22e39fa762f776242c33916c1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e2b9137a7ad9f4c22e39fa762f776242c33916c1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Refinements Commit: 1011f5ee62e300237373931b4b2aa23fff19c9cd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1011f5ee62e300237373931b4b2aa23fff19c9cd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Have been Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/1ae029af1d71...1011f5ee62e3 **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b42a9609b91f_53c12ab64d15bc14544a6-- From nobody Sun Jul 8 17:55:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CC7130EA8 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 17:55:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D8lsx4uoczdL for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 17:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B30D9130DCA for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 17:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 17:55:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531097721; bh=UUKdnq1sw1APVLxmBtszerI+pGtUfX2JMthtayMcoiw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nbm4IqYKtKRIIuE3eVjUMJtDXzZNSSWXGQFTGD3MQH+0iCFdhAWohNHTF/qBKe5pL Skck6uJgqy7Yzygbo0ieYQSnz8AF8DVKsRLWgh7nrSMGRgdZ4gds8ZKKDUUUMVCnTA +FY6EerNbOiy+drtKMB9W2Gj7bhwpLY636NbFS5o= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Optimize definition IP addr in TP PreferredAddress (#1533) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b42b279b2984_1b9b23fe8d0e9ef78989099"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 00:55:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b42b279b2984_1b9b23fe8d0e9ef78989099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -1444,9 +1444,20 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}. TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>; } TransportParameters; + struct { + uint8[4] addr; + } IPv4addr; + + struct { + uint8[16] addr; + } IPv6addr; You can use a typedef for this: ``` typedef uint8[16] IPv6addr; ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533#pullrequestreview-135253675 ----==_mimepart_5b42b279b2984_1b9b23fe8d0e9ef78989099 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1444,9 +1444,20 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>;
    } TransportParameters;
 
+   struct {
+     uint8[4] addr;
+   } IPv4addr;
+
+   struct {
+     uint8[16] addr;
+   } IPv6addr;

You can use a typedef for this:

typedef uint8[16] IPv6addr;

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The server might want to advertise a preferred address in a version other than the current one. For instance, you reach the server over v4, but it would rather you use v6. You can probably assume that people understand that v6 means 16 octets, but is that true for IPv10? Yes, you can ignore the entire transport parameter if you hit an unknown version. That's a little unusual for TLS though. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1533#issuecomment-403332000 ----==_mimepart_5b42b34556ea5_524f2ad4174def5c6344c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You can't assume that you know the IP address. The server might want = to advertise a preferred address in a version other than the current one.= For instance, you reach the server over v4, but it would rather you use= v6. You can probably assume that people understand that v6 means 16 oct= ets, but is that true for IPv10?

Yes, you can ignore the entire transport parameter if you hit an unkno= wn version. That's a little unusual for TLS though.

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An extra "on", more like. Thanks.

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So, UDP datagram contains one and only one QUIC short packet ?
In case the payload is not long enough we can sample ICV generated by AEAD ?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -778,6 +783,33 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, 0-RTT packets are
+likely to have been lost or discarded by the server, especially if the server
+changes its connection ID with a Retry packet.  A client MAY attempt to resend

The text after "especially if ..." seems to imply that 0-RTT packets might not have been lost in case the client receives a Version Negotiation packet.

I am not sure if that is true.

My understanding is that a Version Negotiation packet is sent by a server only if the client offers a version unknown to the server. In such case, all the 0-RTT packets would have been lost, because the format of the 0-RTT packets are version specific, and those would have been unprocessible by the server.

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ICV (integrity check value?)
If a short header does not have a valid AEAD tag at the end, it would be = protocol error that likely results in a dropped packet, not something to = search for regardles of whether there are long packets before, or not. Ho= wever QUIC states that packets should be processed individually, so a bad= short packet should not stop you from processing what comes before (not = sure I agree with that, but that is the spec).

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No i mean the following:
a single QUIC short packet may be contained within a single UDP datagram = --> hence UDP header length may be used to determine protected packet = length.
packet_length =3D sizesof(ShortHeader) + sizeof(Protected_Payload)+sizeof= (Authentication Tag)
but if
sample_offset + sample_length > packet_length
then
sample_offset =3D packet_length - sample_length
So it may happen that sample will take bytes from authentication tag (IC= V) depending on actual payload size.
Once the sample is known we can remove protection from the packet_number.=
Once packet_number is decrypted, its size is known, its value can be dec= oded, so we can form nonce, locate start of protected payload and decrypt= & verify authentication tag of a packet.

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Ah, ok - I don't recall the details, but there was a lot of discussion, the spec was clarified, and later pseudocode was added - so if you read carefully I suspect you will find the right answer.

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Can you send me a pseudocode reference please ?
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -778,6 +783,33 @@ are in a different packet number space to other packets (see
 {{packet-numbers}}).
 
 
+### 0-RTT Packet Numbers {#retry-0rtt-pn}
+
+Packet numbers for 0-RTT protected packets use the same space as 1-RTT protected
+packets.
+
+After a client receives a Retry or Version Negotiation packet, 0-RTT packets are
+likely to have been lost or discarded by the server, especially if the server
+changes its connection ID with a Retry packet.  A client MAY attempt to resend

Yeah, this is right. In order of likelihood that packets are unusable:

  1. VN with unsupported version
  2. Retry w/ connection ID change
  3. Retry w/o connection ID change or VN with preferred alternative version

I don't know why I missed that. Reworded.

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There is pseudocode about packet number encodings, nothing else (yet).

The important thing about short packet headers is that they can be in the same packet as another packet, but they are always the last packet in the datagram.

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you mean "can be in the same datagram as another packet..."

pseudocode
https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.appendix.A

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This was addressed in the stream0 design team changes. Don't send mor= e than 3 datagrams without receiving acknowledgments, and any acknowledgm= ent is enough to provide address validation, after which any number is OK= (short of limits on congestion control, etc...). Reopen if you think we= need more words.

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This is a tricky error code to generate correctly, but giving it a special number implies that it needs special handling. That's not really the case, so using PROTOCOL_VIOLATION is plenty. 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This is a tricky error code to generate correctly, but giving it a special number implies that it needs special handling. That's not really the case, so using PROTOCOL_VIOLATION is plenty. Closes #1265. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1539 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove UNSOLICITED_PATH_RESPONSE -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1539.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1539.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1539 ----==_mimepart_5b43377e43dc0_6cf22ac4b3112f54364bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Giving this error a special code creates an emphasis on the error
condition that is entirely inappropriate. This is a tricky error code
to generate correctly, but giving it a special number implies that it
needs special handling. That's not really the case, so using
PROTOCOL_VIOLATION is plenty.

Closes #1265.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1539

Commit Summary

  • Remove UNSOLICITED_PATH_RESPONSE

File Changes

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1444,9 +1444,20 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>;
    } TransportParameters;
 
+   struct {
+     uint8[4] addr;
+   } IPv4addr;
+
+   struct {
+     uint8[16] addr;
+   } IPv6addr;

There are no typedefs in the TLS 1.3 draft.

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Clarifies the recovery draft in light of #1517

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3293,7 +3293,7 @@ frame.  Its format is identical to the PATH_CHALLENGE frame
 
 If the content of a PATH_RESPONSE frame does not match the content of a
 PATH_CHALLENGE frame previously sent by the endpoint, the endpoint MAY generate
-a connection error of type UNSOLICITED_PATH_RESPONSE.
+a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Should this specify the frame type as PATH_RESPONSE now that frame type is present in CONNECTION_CLOSE?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1018,7 +1025,7 @@ ecn_ce_counter:
 
 bytes_in_flight:
 : The sum of the size in bytes of all sent packets that contain at least
-  one retransmittable frame, and have not been acked or declared
+  one retransmittable or PADDING frame, and have not been acked or declared
   lost. The size does not include IP or UDP overhead.

But presumably it does include AEAD tags?

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1444,9 +1444,20 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>;
    } TransportParameters;
 
+   struct {
+     uint8[4] addr;
+   } IPv4addr;
+
+   struct {
+     uint8[16] addr;
+   } IPv6addr;

The way you say this in TLS is:

uint8 IPv6addr[16];

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I agree with Christian, this is a pain and an ugly special case, since everything else sent in 0RTT can be retransmitted in 1RTT.

I think this is a case where the stream 0 QUIC record layer design should make EOED unnecessary.

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  • c2647e3 Drop IPv4addr and IPv6addr structs in favor of vectors

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1444,9 +1444,20 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>;
    } TransportParameters;
 
+   struct {
+     uint8[4] addr;
+   } IPv4addr;
+
+   struct {
+     uint8[16] addr;
+   } IPv6addr;

Ah yes, this is much simpler, thanks. Done in c2647e3.

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@dtikhonov, the IP version is li= mited to 15 because that's the space in which 4 and 6 are allocated. https://www.iana.org/assignments/version-numbers/= version-numbers.xhtml. However, I'm sympathetic to the argument that= it should be implicit because if you don't know the specified version, b= eing able to figure out how long the address is seems pointless.

Or are you suggesting that a future version might have a variable-leng= th address, for which an explicit length would be required?

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Ah, I see. So the receiver has declared a maximum of 4KB, but if the = encoder doesn't specify a size before sending instructions, what is the t= able size at that point?

My initial inclination matched yours, to say that it's the receiver's = declared maximum, so that the encoder only needs to speak to reduce it. B= ut there's a corner case: In 0-RTT, we assume the previous max; server ca= n't accept 0-RTT if it's going to go lower, but can still increa= se its value when it sends the SETTINGS frame. That means either the ser= ver has to detect whether particular instructions were sent before or aft= er the handshake completed and change the implicit table size, or there's= a nasty corner case when the client thinks it has overflowed the table b= ut the server thinks it hasn't.

HPACK requires the size change instruction to be the first instruction= of the first block following the change; I'd honestly never thought abou= t whether that requires a size change to be the first instruction of the = first header block sent on a connection. Does it?

I think it has to be zero, and require the encoder to declare the size= it intends to use.

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Ugh. Actually, it's worse than that -- the server is allowed to tolerate violations during 0-RTT, so it could actually reduce the max table size once the SETTINGS frame arrives.

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----==_mimepart_5b43a1abbf57e_12d4e3fa8ad5acf7c1496c-- From nobody Mon Jul 9 11:08:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51642130E65 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DPic0CNyAa6L for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39E2012F1AC for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:08:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531159705; bh=0m9F1qt4fjVllNx1fNRaAGDAYo1HXu/Il5G4llR2IL8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iwk+6wGUatrttKTR2Hsj2B1iwiZUgoWFzQgfBhL9lw89xBj86iWzNFHZx3+mBYP9l Uxqcd2+QSCQYV6ooXzRA1Is76kIDBSRbFIVAdZT8fpPx1hMhicPrqORESZH3faSMkS tf/QOlR4LauVnEA0ZUhcLH3Ev/uPsi/ah9/b+lyE= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP SETTINGS and 0-RTT (#1541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b43a49952946_7bc22aed6e1a4f6015077c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 18:08:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b43a49952946_7bc22aed6e1a4f6015077c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The current draft language, after previous discussion, says this: > When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the client=E2=80=99s initia= l requests will be sent before the arrival of the server=E2=80=99s SETTIN= GS frame. Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the sess= ion being resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the server=E2= =80=99s current settings are received. > = > Servers MAY continue processing data from clients which exceed its curr= ent configuration during the initial flight. In this case, the client MUS= T apply the new settings immediately upon receipt. That means the client can accidentally (or maliciously) exceed the server= 's values during the 0-RTT phase. It means clients have to tolerate havi= ng settings reduced after the fact -- discovering your QPACK table is too= big, or you've employed too many placeholders in describing your priorit= y tree. And there's no synchronization of when the server's values for t= his connection take effect, because we removed the synchronization mechan= isms when we decided that SETTINGS are sent once and fixed for the lifeti= me of the connection. If the server decides not to honor the MAY and clo= ses the connection for bad behavior, the client might not have actually s= een the SETTINGS frame (reliable delivery isn't guaranteed when the conne= ction gets closed!) and so doesn't even know what it violated. Its only = recourse is to assume that its cached settings are bad and not do 0-RTT n= ext time, and it seems a pity to require that level of fallback simply fr= om a configuration change. Are we ***really*** sure this is what we want? Wouldn't it be cleaner to= simply say that you can only accept 0-RTT if you're willing to guarantee= that your settings will be equally or more permissive than the ones the = client has remembered? Yes, this means that settings will need to specif= y what counts as equally or more permissive when it's not obvious, but th= at text seems like a small price to pay. The larger price is that the HTTP layer will have to examine what setting= s the client has associated with its session ticket and participate in th= e decision to accept 0-RTT. It's a pain. But is it more of a pain than = what we have? Particularly when the only way to identify a malicious cli= ent is to store the old settings with the ticket anyway and check that th= e client is following the rules as it understood them from last time? -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1541= ----==_mimepart_5b43a49952946_7bc22aed6e1a4f6015077c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The current draft language, after previous discussion, says this:

When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the client=E2=80=99s initi= al requests will be sent before the arrival of the server=E2=80=99s SETTI= NGS frame. Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the ses= sion being resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the server=E2= =80=99s current settings are received.

Servers MAY continue processing data from clients which exceed its cur= rent configuration during the initial flight. In this case, the client MU= ST apply the new settings immediately upon receipt.

That means the client can accidentally (or maliciously) exceed the ser= ver's values during the 0-RTT phase. It means clients have to tolerate h= aving settings reduced after the fact -- discovering your QPACK table is = too big, or you've employed too many placeholders in describing your prio= rity tree. And there's no synchronization of when the server's values fo= r this connection take effect, because we removed the synchronization mec= hanisms when we decided that SETTINGS are sent once and fixed for the lif= etime of the connection. If the server decides not to honor the MAY and = closes the connection for bad behavior, the client might not have actuall= y seen the SETTINGS frame (reliable delivery isn't guaranteed when the co= nnection gets closed!) and so doesn't even know what it violated. Its on= ly recourse is to assume that its cached settings are bad and not do 0-RT= T next time, and it seems a pity to require that level of fallback simply= from a configuration change.

Are we really sure this is what we want? Wo= uldn't it be cleaner to simply say that you can only accept 0-RTT if you'= re willing to guarantee that your settings will be equally or more permis= sive than the ones the client has remembered? Yes, this means that setti= ngs will need to specify what counts as equally or more permissive when i= t's not obvious, but that text seems like a small price to pay.

The larger price is that the HTTP layer will have to examine what sett= ings the client has associated with its session ticket and participate in= the decision to accept 0-RTT. It's a pain. But is it more of a pain th= an what we have? Particularly when the only way to identify a malicious = client is to store the old settings with the ticket anyway and check that= the client is following the rules as it understood them from last time?<= /p>

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= ----==_mimepart_5b43a49952946_7bc22aed6e1a4f6015077c-- From nobody Mon Jul 9 12:46:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3C7130F2C for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 12:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pcLMw3mRYMVm for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 839BB12785F for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 12:46:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531165560; bh=TD670S/zRd/jVjb6L43CbyoUIS+tY9z/X66DWN3efD0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=i8ktOlt/ftiYtL4xGZwcdSAyKNaUq0BC4WQU9ygxN6UzOo5GZNmrnLasifTRsIpEW LGTrgr8W9x+XIdcrJQZ/JQJ1iJ+KrAC3Cb73EHO+r5eNIxg3jw3k99G5bGrrPfXV6F +NJ+SK9bNT5biFvCI6WE2LnV28Udn+PvIilRCWbA= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b43bb788b8ac_28b03fbd435caf7c76412"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 19:46:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b43bb788b8ac_28b03fbd435caf7c76412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But the protection on the Initial packets doesn't have a shared key yet. That means an on-path attacker could decrypt, modify bytes, and re-encrypt. (It would need to do the transformation in the reverse direction as well, of course.) The question here is whether we want to attempt to detect such tampering. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-403597818 ----==_mimepart_5b43bb788b8ac_28b03fbd435caf7c76412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

But the protection on the Initial packets doesn't have a shared key ye= t. That means an on-path attacker could decrypt, modify bytes, and re-en= crypt. (It would need to do the transformation in the reverse direction = as well, of course.) The question here is whether we want to attempt to = detect such tampering.

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Well, yes - it won't work. That ODCID state will get into the handshake,= but only in a hashed form that the client cannot verify, so it doesn't mat= ter. In fact, an on path attacker could weaken the integrity by make the OD= CID non-random.

If the server stored the ODCID in TP explicitly, or better, the initial = AEAD tag, and if the client is required to verify it. then it all is good. = (As I already suggested earlier).

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If the server sent something back encrypted with the initial server se= cret and verified by the client, then that would also work. But the QUIC = TLS doc is hard to read. It is not very clear what kind of key is used in= the servers initial response - is that already 1-RTT, or is there a firs= t flight with initial keys. If it is the initial key, then the client can= only verify the tag if the ODCID matches. If it is hashed into the 1-RTT= context, it doesn't matter.

this makes little sense to me: what key is used after GetHandshake ser= ver side?
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I believe "in-flight" should be hyphenated when used as an adjective before the word.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -110,6 +110,13 @@ important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
 * Retransmittable packets are those that contain at least one retransmittable
   frame.
 
+* PADDING frames do cause packets containing them to count towards bytes in
+  flight, but do not instigate acknowledgement.

Instigate feels like an unusual word choice here. Not necessarily incorrect, but unusual.

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> If the server sent something back encrypted with the initial server = secret
> and verified by the client, then that would also work. But the QUIC = TLS doc
> is hard to read. It is not very clear what kind of key is used in th= e
> servers initial response - is that already 1-RTT,
>
It clearly can't be the 1-RTT key because it contains the DH share th= at le
used to generate the 1-RTT key. But after that in the same flight there i= s
data that is in epoch 2.

This should be fairly clear in:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-13#section-6.5

or is there a first flight with initial keys. If it is the initial key, > then the client can only verify the tag if the ODCID matches. If it = is
> hashed into the 1-RTT context, it doesn't matter.
>
> this makes little sense to me: what key is used after GetHandshake s= erver
> side?
> https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.= 4.1.3
>

Initial keys.


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@ekr - yes I was just about to post th= e below as you wrote. I was confused by thinking that you only need 1 rou= ndtrip to have a secret - the DH secret - but that is the inner layer of = TLS.

Still hard to follow - but as I read it, the initial keys are used for= a few roundtrips. Full encryption with DH exhanged keys would be possibl= e at servers response, but that is not what happens. The outer layer stay= s weakly encrypted, but the TLS messages are protected until a solid 1-RT= T key is forged, which is more production safe than the early DH exchange= . Therefore the client is forced to verify that ODCID was received if it = wants to complete the handshake.

The AEAD tag cannot be used to strengthen that verification further be= cause the AEAD tag depends on the initial secret and cannot depend on its= elf.

It would still be safer if the clients AEAD tag were to be stored in t= he servers TP as an extra precaution because on path attacker could other= wise spoof the initial packet contents knowing the ODCID from plain text.= QUIC doesn't generally try to protect from on-path attacks, but that is = in regards to service disruption, not loss of integrity. This is worse.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b43c5cd5d057_a162ab006210f581743de-- From nobody Mon Jul 9 13:37:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40F4131065 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:37:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BrDbPUrBcbUf for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC890129C6A for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=RzVzwUNBNoujyRv9XWPiNnK6CjY=; b=Q2NgMU3+/8LNIrZu PI1j0/4ADGwtU0vHGLHnjyBM5Pw2jRG8kM5MmpO0PfdJO+jeU6aU+ATMLMjcJGBD 6D7Jsnr7lWNDIhIkCkPuiDwHMXYZHk/mw5NEJHr8dKtBuInjqFUaiuqCcQ01YGu4 L+++knZ9FGtcKyDw8CthcdmC5oU= Received: by filter1448p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1448p1mdw1-14232-5B43C789-34 2018-07-09 20:37:29.887874751 +0000 UTC Received: from github-lowworker-d2dd71d.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.33]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id kT2h5w7PSIadDEbpSJyxlw for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:37:29.908 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-d2dd71d.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC189880CD5 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:37:30 +0000 (UTC) From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b43c789da2df_1a183fec70b3af7813770"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1EqNcSyfsLzRGB0LFe3U8cY8vWyut2S9DYEa m31fFsfbHP81KzaHDprtVVXb6Om68VIfMxZSUc4tgatYX/ki2136Ht7VXZI8rpNclVwaGeMmp76tcO mWhSFiLzcYDxW0e6jKf7FkISbtCDwnuaj9BBjASPeTu7HRbMHNRZxoHhbg== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:37:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b43c789da2df_1a183fec70b3af7813770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:30 PM, MikkelFJ wrote: > @ekr - yes I was just about to post the below as > you wrote. I was confused by thinking that you only need 1 roundtrip to > have a secret - the DH secret - but that is the inner layer of TLS. > > Still hard to follow - but as I read it, the initial keys are used for a > few roundtrips. Full encryption with DH exhanged keys would be possible at > servers response, but that is not what happens. The outer layer stays > weakly encrypted, but the TLS messages are protected until a solid 1-RTT > key is forged, which is more production safe than the early DH exchange > Huh? No. The server starts sending using the Handshake keys in its first flight. This is clearly shown in the diagram I linked to. Therefore the client is forced to verify that ODCID was received if it > wants to complete the handshake. > The AEAD tag cannot be used to strengthen that verification further because > the AEAD tag depends on the initial secret and cannot depend on itself. > > It would still be safer if the clients AEAD tag were to be stored in the > servers TP as an extra precaution because on path attacker could otherwise > spoof the initial packet contents knowing the ODCID from plain text. QUIC > doesn't generally try to protect from on-path attacks, but that is in > regards to service disruption, not loss of integrity. This is worse. > > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > , > or mute the thread > > . > --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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> @ekr <https://github.com/ekr> - yes I was just about to post the= below as
> you wrote. I was confused by thinking that you only need 1 roundtrip t= o
> have a secret - the DH secret - but that is the inner layer of TLS.
>
> Still hard to follow - but as I read it, the initial keys are used for= a
> few roundtrips. Full encryption with DH exhanged keys would be possibl= e at
> servers response, but that is not what happens. The outer layer stays<= br> > weakly encrypted, but the TLS messages are protected until a solid 1-R= TT
> key is forged, which is more production safe than the early DH exchang= e
>
Huh? No. The server starts sending using the Handshake keys in its first
flight. This is clearly shown in the diagram I linked to.


Therefore the client is forced to verify that ODCID was received if it
> wants to complete the handshake.
>
The AEAD tag cannot be used to strengthen that verification further because=
> the AEAD tag depends on the initial secret and cannot depend on itself= .
>
> It would still be safer if the clients AEAD tag were to be stored in t= he
> servers TP as an extra precaution because on path attacker could other= wise
> spoof the initial packet contents knowing the ODCID from plain text. Q= UIC
> doesn't generally try to protect from on-path attacks, but that is= in
> regards to service disruption, not loss of integrity. This is worse. >
> =E2=80=94
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Huh? No. The server starts sending using the Handshake keys in its first
flight. This is clearly shown in the diagram I linked to.

Yes - in the subsequent packet, not in a few more roundtrips.

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In a subsequent QUIC packet but in the same UDP datagram if you are coalescing. This is just the physics of the situation: you can't start encrypting until the client has the server's DH share.

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But to the main point:

The ODCID is verified. But that header and non-crypto parts can be manipulated / ossified. Is it worth storing the clients initial AEAD tag in the servers TP to protect against this?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3293,7 +3293,7 @@ frame.  Its format is identical to the PATH_CHALLENGE frame
 
 If the content of a PATH_RESPONSE frame does not match the content of a
 PATH_CHALLENGE frame previously sent by the endpoint, the endpoint MAY generate
-a connection error of type UNSOLICITED_PATH_RESPONSE.
+a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Yes, but I didn't think that it would be necessary to state that explicitly. If we decide to do that, I'd want to do that everywhere.

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Any acknowledgement? That seems odd, given how easy it would be to forge an acknowledgement of Initial packets with easily-guessed sequence numbers. Clearly receiving anything under Handshake keys verifies actual receipt, though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3293,7 +3293,7 @@ frame.  Its format is identical to the PATH_CHALLENGE frame
 
 If the content of a PATH_RESPONSE frame does not match the content of a
 PATH_CHALLENGE frame previously sent by the endpoint, the endpoint MAY generate
-a connection error of type UNSOLICITED_PATH_RESPONSE.
+a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Agreed, we might want to state it everywhere.

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Sure confused me! I'll have to reread it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -110,6 +110,13 @@ important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
 * Retransmittable packets are those that contain at least one retransmittable
   frame.
 
+* PADDING frames do cause packets containing them to count towards bytes in
+  flight, but do not instigate acknowledgement.

What Mike said, but I think that it would be better to concentrate on the more important distinctions and perhaps rewrite this bit. Your bullet list is now 6 items, which is too long anyway, so perhaps this could be reduced:

QUIC packets can contain multiple frames of different types. The recovery mechanisms ensure that frames that need reliable delivery are acknowledged and sent in new packets as necessary. The types of frames contained in a packet can affect recovery and congestion control logic:

  • All packets are acknowledged, though packets that contain only ACK, ACK_ECN, and PADDING frames are not acknowledged immediately.

  • Packets that contain CRYPTO frames are critical to the performance of the QUIC handshake and use shorter timers for acknowledgement and retransmission.

  • Packets that contain only ACK and ACK_ECN frames do not count toward congestion control limits (see {{blah}}). That is, they do not contribute toward bytes in flight. Note that this means that PADDING frames cause packets to contribute toward bytes in flight without directly causing an acknowledgment to be sent.

(This last point might be accomplished better with a forward reference, but I didn't see a nice place to put that, the definition of bytes in flight is buried a little.)

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Yes, this:

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Imprecision in my comment only. The text in the draft is clearer. It says any acknowledgment with Handshake keys.

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Right. Perhaps it would be better to say "a string literal with an N-bit-prefixed length" or something like that.

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This splits the one parameter into three and makes each optional, with a
default of 0.

Closes #1016.

(Separately, I'm convinced that we want to do some defragmentation of codepoints when we get the chance. It might be unpleasant on those tracking the spec, but better that than what this sort of change produces.)

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1542

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. Minor nits. > @@ -1525,6 +1519,36 @@ initial_max_uni_streams (0x0008): equivalent to receiving a MAX_STREAM_ID containing 18 when received by a client or 19 when received by a server. +initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local (0x0000): + +: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, local streams parameter The verbage we've used elsewhere is "[server|client]-initiated [bi|uni]directional," I think. Obviously we can't do exactly that with these, but perhaps "locally-initiated bidirectional" and "peer-initiated bidirectional" would be closer? > + created bidirectional stream opened by the endpoint that sets the transport + parameter. This parameter is encoded as an unsigned 32-bit integer in units + of octets. This is equivalent to a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame + ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) being sent on those streams immediately after + opening. In client transport parameters, this applies to streams with an + identifier ending in 0x0; in server transport parameters, this applies to + streams ending in 0x1. This parameter defaults to 0 if absent. + +initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote (0x000a): + +: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, remote streams parameter is + equivalent to the initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local parameter, but it applies + instead to bidirectional streams initiated by a remote peer. In client + transport parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in + 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x0. + Thisparameter defaults to 0 if absent. Missing space. > + identifier ending in 0x0; in server transport parameters, this applies to + streams ending in 0x1. This parameter defaults to 0 if absent. + +initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote (0x000a): + +: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, remote streams parameter is + equivalent to the initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local parameter, but it applies + instead to bidirectional streams initiated by a remote peer. In client + transport parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in + 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x0. + Thisparameter defaults to 0 if absent. + +initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b): + +: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, remote streams parameter is + equivalent to the initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local parameter, but it applies Having these two be "equivalent to" the first one feels a little odd, since there's nothing particularly special about the first one over the others. I'd be tempted to either repeat the verbiage in each, or pull it out to an unbulleted paragraph that introduces these three as a related group. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1542#pullrequestreview-135663657 ----==_mimepart_5b442871b768f_40512b1ab93f2f601030f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Minor nits.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1525,6 +1519,36 @@ initial_max_uni_streams (0x0008):
   equivalent to receiving a MAX_STREAM_ID containing 18 when received by a
   client or 19 when received by a server.
 
+initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local (0x0000):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, local streams parameter

The verbage we've used elsewhere is "[server|client]-initiated [bi|uni]directional," I think. Obviously we can't do exactly that with these, but perhaps "locally-initiated bidirectional" and "peer-initiated bidirectional" would be closer?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  created bidirectional stream opened by the endpoint that sets the transport
+  parameter.  This parameter is encoded as an unsigned 32-bit integer in units
+  of octets.  This is equivalent to a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame
+  ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) being sent on those streams immediately after
+  opening.  In client transport parameters, this applies to streams with an
+  identifier ending in 0x0; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x1.  This parameter defaults to 0 if absent.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote (0x000a):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, remote streams parameter is
+  equivalent to the initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local parameter, but it applies
+  instead to bidirectional streams initiated by a remote peer.  In client
+  transport parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in
+  0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x0.
+  Thisparameter defaults to 0 if absent.

Missing space.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x0; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x1.  This parameter defaults to 0 if absent.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote (0x000a):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, remote streams parameter is
+  equivalent to the initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local parameter, but it applies
+  instead to bidirectional streams initiated by a remote peer.  In client
+  transport parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in
+  0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x0.
+  Thisparameter defaults to 0 if absent.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for bidirectional, remote streams parameter is
+  equivalent to the initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local parameter, but it applies

Having these two be "equivalent to" the first one feels a little odd, since there's nothing particularly special about the first one over the others. I'd be tempted to either repeat the verbiage in each, or pull it out to an unbulleted paragraph that introduces these three as a related group.

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Ok, but if you make initial secret (or ODCID) a part of AD for 1-rtt encryption, you could ensure that while the tampering would allow the handshake to succeed, it would but not allow transmission past the handshake. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-403698482 ----==_mimepart_5b44395b462eb_5a773ff32e0ecf8499056 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That means an on-path attacker could decrypt, modify bytes, and re-enc= rypt.

Ok, but if you make initial secret (or ODCID) a part of AD for 1-rtt e= ncryption, you could ensure that while the tampering would allow the hand= shake to succeed, it would but not allow transmission past the handshake.=

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Tue, 10 Jul 2018 04:46:34 -0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 21:46:34 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b443a2a382d7_386b2add848dfc0c6312@hookshot-fe-6e9b612.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c8db08: Experiment with finer-grained cached key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b443a2a37d98_386b2add848dfc0c625f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 04:46:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b443a2a37d98_386b2add848dfc0c625f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: c8db08f7eedd5122167e68f57248b4e8d1974290 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8db08f7eedd5122167e68f57248b4e8d1974290 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Experiment with finer-grained cached key Commit: 91116a00d33383bff9d3b5b8b3aa9f9e70b95f71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/91116a00d33383bff9d3b5b8b3aa9f9e70b95f71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Use environment instead Commit: e39278713699ace48902b8fdd80ebe2a68062279 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e39278713699ace48902b8fdd80ebe2a68062279 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Remove quotes Commit: af811a493f3d67a4bcd1fc41516bf6f052f27e25 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/af811a493f3d67a4bcd1fc41516bf6f052f27e25 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Caching is a bust because you can't programmatically control keys Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/0ebbdadeb73a...af811a493f3d **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b443a2a37d98_386b2add848dfc0c625f-- From nobody Mon Jul 9 23:21:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9379130F08 for ; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531203688; bh=LCMAkK86LMB7Xnt6bUE58b3HQWS7Mix8m99hNQSuX+c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ywF27koH96OdNoWAzp5cj7g6nwVVuAmPgZ6em/8T1Nmd/ZyxoduekNiPswlrn5Oym O815NY/FeKTBAPkQ/uMWrNMD8DDboXn8bKMeKRz1sLJwxEjZj1Zd5ofYIqsOwHJGqP SvTxjjgMgyszqnznPaubAGmhdDjPIGVyozuJG3bg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration failure mode (#1278) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4450685936c_326c3f82d15f8f78547786"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 06:21:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4450685936c_326c3f82d15f8f78547786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure if [that comment](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1278#issuecomment-394753339) helps, if we misunderstood when we met, or if it is just missing something important. The second point doesn't seem connected to the problem, though the first might be sufficient. If an attacker can capture a packet and send it from a new address twice, with a similar rewrite of the packet containing PATH_CHALLENGE, then it *might* be reasonable to say that they are on the path. But this is possible from the side. Given that most traffic patterns have at least some (non-probing) activity in both directions (an ACK suffices here), the genuine path might naturally reassert itself naturally as the victim sends more packets. The problem is that the attacker might be able to find a natural stop in the cadence of the protocol where the victim has no further data to send. For instance, a HTTP request was sent, acknowledged, and now the victim is only waiting for the response. If the victim stops receiving packets, and has no natural triggers for sending its own packets, then the connection could time out as being apparently broken. The suggested defense was to do post-hoc validation of a migration by sending a message on the original path as well indicating that migration happened. That might get lost (which is OK if the path really is dead), but if the migration was spurious and the packet got through then the victim might be able to reassert their use of the valid path by sending more data on that path. In effect, they would migrate back. Of course, then there is the question of how often and how many of those you might send. We might agree that this is an attack not worth building specific countermeasures for and that documenting it is sufficient. I'm undecided here. I really don't like the idea that connections could be broken so trivially by rewriting the IP header, but the mitigations aren't especially strong. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Not sure if that comment helps, if we misunderstood wh= en we met, or if it is just missing something important.

The second point doesn't seem connected to the problem, though the fir= st might be sufficient.

If an attacker can capture a packet and send it from a new address twi= ce, with a similar rewrite of the packet containing PATH_CHALLENGE, then = it might be reasonable to say that they are on the path. But th= is is possible from the side.

Given that most traffic patterns have at least some (non-probing) acti= vity in both directions (an ACK suffices here), the genuine path might na= turally reassert itself naturally as the victim sends more packets. The = problem is that the attacker might be able to find a natural stop in the = cadence of the protocol where the victim has no further data to send. Fo= r instance, a HTTP request was sent, acknowledged, and now the victim is = only waiting for the response. If the victim stops receiving packets, an= d has no natural triggers for sending its own packets, then the connectio= n could time out as being apparently broken.

The suggested defense was to do post-hoc validation of a migration by = sending a message on the original path as well indicating that migration = happened. That might get lost (which is OK if the path really is dead), = but if the migration was spurious and the packet got through then the vic= tim might be able to reassert their use of the valid path by sending more= data on that path. In effect, they would migrate back. Of course, then = there is the question of how often and how many of those you might send.<= /p>

We might agree that this is an attack not worth building specific coun= termeasures for and that documenting it is sufficient. I'm undecided her= e. I really don't like the idea that connections could be broken so triv= ially by rewriting the IP header, but the mitigations aren't especially s= trong.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4450685936c_326c3f82d15f8f78547786-- From nobody Mon Jul 9 23:47:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31EE130F05 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:47:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6G0RHWwtRWdK for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBECF1277C8 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 23:47:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531205272; bh=9y/uANffGyPi1UsjY3tpgT6RpZMiXqhdjHpPrEPXJHI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HPHMvERZq6SwfnuZRRWfRadh03E/0Es/uOIr9NmiMz2KBqyoL8ysNtsC2/MYN4Qes SThxqBacvgG8rchMZDZdFB+f89APERF+SD8c7LLqc+3fR8PWhTCDukFFP0p7RUMb98 /NfvVKUpY5KU8LJYc+yCTGTNImiD5oQh68KH21sQ= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b44569848389_2b613fd704454f78764b2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 06:47:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b44569848389_2b613fd704454f78764b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ok, but if you make initial secret (or ODCID) a part of AD for 1-rtt encryption, ... That already happens because the handshake needed to construct the clients 1-RTT key is protected by the servers initial secret. If the servers initial secret is not based on the correct ODCID, the client cannot proceed. The surfer of the clients initial packet can be manipulated, likel header flags, but the TLS layer eventually verifies the clients TP too. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-403718625 ----==_mimepart_5b44569848389_2b613fd704454f78764b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok, but if you make initial secret (or ODCID) a part of AD for 1-rtt e= ncryption, ...

That already happens because the handshake needed to construct the cli= ents 1-RTT key is protected by the servers initial secret. If the servers= initial secret is not based on the correct ODCID, the client cannot proc= eed.

The surfer of the clients initial packet can be manipulated, likel hea= der flags, but the TLS layer eventually verifies the clients TP too.

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Having read the document again, I think it is fine as-is. The prefix is described in the String Literals section which comes before the operation definitions and the accompanying figures.

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I don't understand why the build failed.= Works for me when I make =F0=9F=98=95 .

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How can we move this forward? The problem this PR is trying to solve = is the lack of the IP address format description in the document. There = are two ways to solve it:

  1. Describe the format using the TLS Presentation Language; or
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    My preference is the former. I am OK with English as well -- describing = the address format outside of the TP figure.

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Just say that the encoding is big endian in same encoding as the UDP/4 and UDP/6 header formats with 4 and 16 bytes respetively.

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----==_mimepart_5b44b6e2cfdd5_52513fb0d2478f8485697-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 07:28:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54195130DFD for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iN4D4BSXisQB for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DF4B12D949 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 07:28:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531232911; bh=M6qgRzHblXXH3jzSMNhv23dPVo47yjepjq8EWi8r/3E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WutDYTdKLO7KoqjxtG0PvQlYR4FL2pQ6aMZDyVJBhuPYrbRiJuavFEHbNvSPVmsGf hvK+r3top7ykDqijihwwwMx8gHTUwf/7FL6AxLx8aLz4i2faAe2Zsv8maesZrW2fgD rqI6xDkABMP4L0dn42YJAxxqRLFcjLLtx9mDgcSA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split initial MAX_STREAM_DATA transport parameters (#1542) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b44c28f78aca_62a92b2479ac8f501559c2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:28:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b44c28f78aca_62a92b2479ac8f501559c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > + identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to + streams ending in 0x0. + +initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b): + +: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains + the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened + by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter. In client transport + parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in + server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2. + +If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are +equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on +every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening. If the +transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control +limit of 0. Is 0 practical? Does that mean I can send an stream frame with a 0 byte payload, but nothing else? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1542#pullrequestreview-135851048 ----==_mimepart_5b44c28f78aca_62a92b2479ac8f501559c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x0.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains
+  the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened
+  by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter.  In client transport
+  parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in
+  server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2.
+
+If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are
+equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on
+every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening.  If the
+transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control
+limit of 0.

Is 0 practical? Does that mean I can send an stream frame with a 0 byte payload, but nothing else?

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x0.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains
+  the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened
+  by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter.  In client transport
+  parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in
+  server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2.
+
+If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are
+equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on
+every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening.  If the
+transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control
+limit of 0.

That's actually the only way to open a new unidirectional stream in that case. I'm not sure if I like it, since it adds another special case to my STREAM frame sending logic, since I usually never send empty STREAM frames, but I have to do it in this case.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x0.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains
+  the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened
+  by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter.  In client transport
+  parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in
+  server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2.
+
+If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are
+equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on
+every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening.  If the
+transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control
+limit of 0.

add one to the byte size of each stream packet when computing limits, or any frame contributing to flow control.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x0.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains
+  the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened
+  by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter.  In client transport
+  parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in
+  server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2.
+
+If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are
+equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on
+every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening.  If the
+transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control
+limit of 0.

For the HTTP/QUIC case it be more useful to have max data equivalent to 8 bits, so as to enable the creation of a stream with its type. However, I know that is not a general transport feature...

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----==_mimepart_5b44c86e1af5a_525b2aee76d38f583337d7-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 11:27:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96469131047 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wDs-2IhhzcIJ for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D8F2130DCE for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:27:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531247261; bh=EWMUjHPWYMBXVFOB/apKdGLdqMGqX/brdb0z4PJiMNw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QpHp+rxQn4D5EpgFV0sWHCWHug2e7f8rCbEjMhmixBLlMtPtRfnyA9sbfFxv9dVIE F+aObwmTGZxnjqGq7h0UplypCpjT1Z0DW8ONofmdYSf8lvFJ7z2Ftueyq52t+2ROOL nV1t3q0B2dyJXrGG3GoMHPuadG0WvkclcxRGfUFs= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reference to static table entry cannot use relative index (#1538) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b44fa9cebe10_7a0f3fef0a1c4f888235ba"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:27:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b44fa9cebe10_7a0f3fef0a1c4f888235ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Is the intent here to say that when S=0, relative index is used and when S=1, the index is the static entry's index? Yes, that's the intent. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1538#issuecomment-403921392 ----==_mimepart_5b44fa9cebe10_7a0f3fef0a1c4f888235ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is the intent here to say that when S=0, relative index is used and when S=1, the index is the static entry's index?

Yes, that's the intent.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x0.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains
+  the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened
+  by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter.  In client transport
+  parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in
+  server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2.
+
+If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are
+equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on
+every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening.  If the
+transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control
+limit of 0.

I don't really know that anything would be practical here. If you don't permit streams of this type, it's moot. If you do permit streams of this type, you want a particular value and will probably send it as part of your settings. But if you omit it, what is the peer allowed to send? I don't think the goal is to pick a value that would encourage implementations to skip sending this parameter, just to not have it be undefined.

Zero is fine. So is 4KB. So is infinity. Real implementations will send a value for any stream they intend to open.

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Fixes issue #1538.

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  • Fix: relative indices cannot be used with static table

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Merged #1543.

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When you change epochs. Per Slack conversation.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -975,6 +984,21 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | QPACK Decoder Stream         | 0x68   | {{wire-format}}           | Both   |
 | ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------ |
 
+## Error Code Registration
+
+This document establishes one new error code in the "HTTP/QUIC Error Code"
+registry established in {{QUIC-HTTP}}.
+
+Name:
+: HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED
+
+Code:
+: 0x06
+
+Description:
+: QPACK failed to decompress a frame and cannot continue.

I'm not sure 'frame' is the right term here. This is basically any decoding error of any kind, which may occur outside of a frame.

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -975,6 +984,21 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | QPACK Decoder Stream         | 0x68   | {{wire-format}}           | Both   |
 | ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------ |
 
+## Error Code Registration
+
+This document establishes one new error code in the "HTTP/QUIC Error Code"
+registry established in {{QUIC-HTTP}}.
+
+Name:
+: HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED
+
+Code:
+: 0x06
+
+Description:
+: QPACK failed to decompress a frame and cannot continue.

Good point -- just stale text.

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I'm doing the CID presentation; links to slides are broken.

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Closed by #1473, no?

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Closed #210.

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This proposes a change to the invariants. By definition, then, it can't be v2. My feeling is that we've sufficiently stabilized our choices in the invariants and we should close this with no action.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Retry Token:
+
+: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address.
+
+The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that
+the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet.
+
+The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID
+field.  The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID
+of subsequent packets that it sends.
+
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.

Bump for changing this to a SHOULD for now?

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The first Initial packet contains a packet number of 0. Each packet sent after
-the Initial packet is associated with a packet number space and its packet
-number increases monotonically in that space (see {{packet-numbers}}).
+The first Initial packet sent by either endpoint contains a packet number of

Or MUST contain?

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You'll need to fix the reference to these TPs on lines 1624-1625, too.

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The existing presentation wasn't changed, I just used chmod.

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Side effect of stream 0 changes was that this qualification is no longer
necessary.

Closes #1297.

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----==_mimepart_5b456206d5b1c_1bf23fed3b56cf80635d7-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 18:59:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE81131147 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:59:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mZR6_64thxAz for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356641310F5 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:58:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531274338; bh=BXZ0ogJsswaratzmdGzpMcSk3UYAdvih9RvaRKvygKA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c2D2faUDjSHAtYodH6iyACcypP4a873D0N/TM2adt7HoR6he1h4bE4SrztrEvwWso o4Uh1nfP6rj3wFWAa5BGxRfvf4bBxwES/FY7SNiPGCiRqRmrYTc32wWhkdRqNQIXw7 tj1VkdFb9qr5ElIT9ayo1LA02l91T1nyi86oSfdE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Only Update max_ack_delay for Retransmittable Packets (#1531) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4564626527d_45ee2b192b762f54111568"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 01:59:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4564626527d_45ee2b192b762f54111568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems like a real issue. The test is there because acknowledgements aren't generated directly as a result of receiving some packets. This includes ACK-only packets, but a definition for what that means isn't in the doc. I think that there is a simple fix - define "ACK-only" as being any packet that comprises ACK, ACK_ECN, and PADDING frames only. There is still a bug in determining maximum ACK delay though. If the ACK is lost and the receiver has their own data to send some time afterwards, they might bundle an ACK with that new packet. That would force the delay up. I think that we should discuss explicit signaling of maximum ACK delay. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1531#issuecomment-404020322 ----==_mimepart_5b4564626527d_45ee2b192b762f54111568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This seems like a real issue. The test is there because acknowledgeme= nts aren't generated directly as a result of receiving some packets. Thi= s includes ACK-only packets, but a definition for what that means isn't i= n the doc.

I think that there is a simple fix - define "ACK-only" as being any pa= cket that comprises ACK, ACK_ECN, and PADDING frames only.

There is still a bug in determining maximum ACK delay though. If the = ACK is lost and the receiver has their own data to send some time afterwa= rds, they might bundle an ACK with that new packet. That would force the= delay up. I think that we should discuss explicit signaling of maximum = ACK delay.

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The intent here is that ack_only =3D=3D !retransmittable, but you're r= ight that's never defined.

@martinthomson Given that's wh= ere TCP is heading, I agree we should add explicit signaling for max ack = delay. Previously Jana convinced me it wasn't strictly necessary, but me= asuring it is increasingly feeling like a research project we shouldn't t= ake on for v1.

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After taking another look, this is a bit larger fix. I'll try to addr= ess it in PR#1540, because I now need an ack_only bool to indicate it's o= nly ACK, ACK_ECN, or PADDING, as well as an in_flight bool, because PADDI= NG counts towards in flight, but do not elicit(is that better?) acknowled= gements.

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----==_mimepart_5b45753978582_f4c3f8cc85cef88140046-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 20:11:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4F2130EC0 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:10:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W-RJ4oTtttYy for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90BFA130DE0 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:10:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531278656; bh=F4g/M63Yrt19cWwE0das9RoRY45wz9GPyY7a0cRHR2Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cR2/XUY+QyCi1OWT0DLcGLTa11yK0l9/Kb+MdMvViTNtsXEQCB0WLBYrS6sswdpC1 z7lsZDY6LmPi7qummqC6hblMjnKLTrycZxfWAthXxpaiia/7ECTSTeY8Spk/BPDbQj Xa7QToSrM5O406pIUb2glQA5wyzCquTibRS2cmOw= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Retry packet (#1498) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b457540b98be_111a03ff67e3a8f7c7812e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 03:11:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b457540b98be_111a03ff67e3a8f7c7812e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. > -The first Initial packet contains a packet number of 0. Each packet sent after -the Initial packet is associated with a packet number space and its packet -number increases monotonically in that space (see {{packet-numbers}}). +The first Initial packet sent by either endpoint contains a packet number of Certainly not MUST. Consider the case where the Initial packet is resent after a version negotiation, or repeated after time-out. Then the "natural" value of the sequence number will be 1. I don't see how saying "must be zero" would improve interoperability. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r201553912 ----==_mimepart_5b457540b98be_111a03ff67e3a8f7c7812e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The first Initial packet contains a packet number of 0. Each packet sent after
-the Initial packet is associated with a packet number space and its packet
-number increases monotonically in that space (see {{packet-numbers}}).
+The first Initial packet sent by either endpoint contains a packet number of

Certainly not MUST. Consider the case where the Initial packet is resent after a version negotiation, or repeated after time-out. Then the "natural" value of the sequence number will be 1. I don't see how saying "must be zero" would improve interoperability.

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UDP datagram would be over the MTU(1252 bytes for IPv4) when coalescing packet with Initial Packet and some other packets during Handshake, because Initial Packet have to have at least 1200 bytes.

When to coalesce packets with Initial packet, should we consider the 1200 bytes limitation as whole coalescing packet UDP datagram?
Or should we send Initial Packet as it is?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  identifier ending in 0x1; in server transport parameters, this applies to
+  streams ending in 0x0.
+
+initial_max_stream_data_uni (0x000b):
+
+: The initial stream maximum data for unidirectional streams parameter contains
+  the initial flow control limit for newly created unidirectional streams opened
+  by the endpoint that receives the transport parameter.  In client transport
+  parameters, this applies to streams with an identifier ending in 0x3; in
+  server transport parameters, this applies to streams ending in 0x2.
+
+If present, transport parameters that set initial flow control limits are
+equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) on
+every stream of the corresponding type immediately after opening.  If the
+transport parameter is absent, streams of that type start with a flow control
+limit of 0.

You can send STREAM_BLOCKED on any stream that you can open, but no otherwise send on. That has the effect of opening the stream. You don't have to send an empty STREAM frame.

As @LPardue says, there are values that might be better than others as an absolute minimum. For instance, knowing the type of unidirectional stream is probably better than knowing nothing at all, but we have to trust that implementations provide starting flow control limits that make sense for them. They have to deal with the consequences, after all.

0 was a valid value in the past, so we're not dealing with anything new here, except to the extent that defaults matter.

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----==_mimepart_5b4580f5108e7_6b692b26c1d0af583436e6-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 21:01:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9BB130DE9 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:01:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TcOaNHFkjfeF for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6F76130E15 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:01:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531281690; bh=ARZ8n5I+hp2GD5LsOlls6Pw/xdDyTJPiLRP/sKg5mTk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JCkX4yx7Pv9JQHxjJdFKfziKhAbWcWN2mCJ0X5a22z2VUghTTpqn05LMiswH7XZOx WJ6w2EXSXTrIWzT2xz5Jnjhy1Tnts2uxhwNL2zjc38NtzZCBz7kooyxh84VqvClaJA icVFpacegujR1bkoVLELOSsteRFX+HhwWd3rbrA4= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split initial MAX_STREAM_DATA transport parameters (#1542) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b45811a357b5_3ad72af9a70e6f5c3513fa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 04:01:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b45811a357b5_3ad72af9a70e6f5c3513fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for catching those omissions Mike. The 0-RTT section was harder than expected, probably more than necessary, but I sorted something out. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1542#issuecomment-404037922 ----==_mimepart_5b45811a357b5_3ad72af9a70e6f5c3513fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for catching those omissions Mike. The 0-RTT section was harder than expected, probably more than necessary, but I sorted something out.

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Commit: 6e2437f5490e0e057d137d7af3fafa850bf4096b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e2437f5490e0e057d137d7af3fafa850bf4096b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1545 from quicwg/application-owned Strike application-owned Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/8d46bc84cd4f...6e2437f5490e **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b4584667843c_198cc2aac246b3c1c7294b-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 21:15:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F68130EC9 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:15:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CK6NJT_gRoXs for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDA54130DE9 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:15:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531282538; bh=zTZAZ6ySTG145r/VaQjkyVPr17pDlDH9nLLbWR0nyOs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0NDE5BM3JNfvUWbiYxLPmrXXiOByM2I9dpx+2ZMIU95IN5y6c50Ze+ACG0Rr0f7SD TNglZOSyKXa0HfsUOl2C7gpADh91gtWrXGj1b1ChBpkziA7wAwsRo4UxMpqdO4zE2d /tJpPz8fG2a5W3R93e9QJl0oyxX8BftIz31lLucw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Meaning of "application-owned streams" is unclear (#1297) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b45846a15ed6_5be43fb59959af7c7020bc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 04:15:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b45846a15ed6_5be43fb59959af7c7020bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1297 via #1545. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Merged #1545.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The first Initial packet contains a packet number of 0. Each packet sent after
-the Initial packet is associated with a packet number space and its packet
-number increases monotonically in that space (see {{packet-numbers}}).
+The first Initial packet sent by either endpoint contains a packet number of

Christian got it. MUST doesn't work, and throwing normative language at this is too heavy. I think that this is fine.

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----==_mimepart_5b4584bb5a05c_5bbc3fb59959af7c347280-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 21:18:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873EE130E02 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:18:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Kg_FD82goy5 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0D43130DE9 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:18:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531282712; bh=nhrBuLOWo4ITuohm/eeb45uoTVf/ZL7JpSk8IWYTjwg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tXFs1Uz7c74iP/toO1VLZqMDOeyJ7yjy2XzjEnPhhuZcy0qfbWagrTu3f+rr0ZQ/B Bekm7PlGl8AgNwDzAiWzA+SeHHWw9pHtuQ1tBNE/TfVQXYNmeYFSBkBctJTXmbNPtw 1LsVYBiZV2MnBC1jEl94DLoGVd0fCSQ09IUXz82U= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Retry packet (#1498) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b45851818fb5_5bc83fb59959af7c628318"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 04:18:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b45851818fb5_5bc83fb59959af7c628318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > + +Retry Token: + +: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address. + +The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that +the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet. + +The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID +field. The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID +of subsequent packets that it sends. + +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. I prefer to leave this as SHOULD for now, but will open a new issue. This wasn't the focus of this change (this is not my text), so let's have an explicit discussion about it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r201560907 ----==_mimepart_5b45851818fb5_5bc83fb59959af7c628318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Retry Token:
+
+: An opaque token that the server can use to validate the client's address.
+
+The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that
+the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet.
+
+The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID
+field.  The client MUST use this connection ID in the Destination Connection ID
+of subsequent packets that it sends.
+
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.

I prefer to leave this as SHOULD for now, but will open a new issue. This wasn't the focus of this change (this is not my text), so let's have an explicit discussion about it.

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It's entirely possible that a box that might be inclined to send a Retry packet could receive 0-RTT packets before an Initial packet. Right now, that box has to drop the 0-RTT, it is prohibited from sending a Retry.

There doesn't seem to be a strong reason to prohibit sending Retry here. Nor is there any strong reason to disallow it.

In favour of the existing text are some weak arguments:

  • Allowing Retry here means that the number of Retry packets in flight might exceed the number of Initial packets. But we already have text about ignoring old and redundant Retry packets.
  • A server that is sending Retry does so primarily to avoid taking on extra work and dropping the 0-RTT and waiting for an Initial is the easiest thing to do.

In favour of the change are equally weak arguments:

  • This would allow Retry to be faster in cases where an Initial is reordered or dropped.
  • A Retry sent in response to 0-RTT is indistinguishable from one sent in response to Initial packets.

Did I miss anything?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -110,6 +110,13 @@ important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
 * Retransmittable packets are those that contain at least one retransmittable
   frame.
 
+* PADDING frames do cause packets containing them to count towards bytes in
+  flight, but do not instigate acknowledgement.

Bump for this comment. I think that it might be a better framing still, after some adjustments.

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We agreed that this would be datagram, but the fix was implemented inconsistently.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This fixes inconsistencies throughout in our treatment of the 1200 octet limit. I also took another tilt at the ClientHello limitations section, which hadn't taken the addition of the token into account. I don't explicitly calculate a limit, but I do mention the size of the minimal overheads, and mention other ways in which the limit might be reduced. Closes #1546. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1548 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix 1200 octet Datagram vs. Packet inconsistencies * Rewrite section on ClientHello size -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (39) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (30) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1548.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1548.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This fixes inconsistencies throughout in our treatment of the 1200 octet limit.

I also took another tilt at the ClientHello limitations section, which hadn't taken the addition of the token into account. I don't explicitly calculate a limit, but I do mention the size of the minimal overheads, and mention other ways in which the limit might be reduced.

Closes #1546.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1548

Commit Summary

  • Fix 1200 octet Datagram vs. Packet inconsistencies
  • Rewrite section on ClientHello size

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I added something to the state machine and tweaked the critical text slightly. 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I added something to the state machine and tweaked the critical text slightly. Closes #1342. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1549 -- Commit Summary -- * Fixup implicit stream opening -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1549.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1549.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1549 ----==_mimepart_5b4596528eda6_7eed2ac430268f5890669 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This was already in pretty good shape. I added something to the state
machine and tweaked the critical text slightly.

Closes #1342.

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This time I changed retry.pdf and added keys.pdf.

I will follow up with a proposed schedule.

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I don't think a clear one, no. It's in my CID deck for next week; I'm inclined to just leave it until then.

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I remain in favor of changing this to "MAY wait for Initial"; servers shouldn't be required to do anything here, but there's no reason to prohibit it and it improves performance in some not-unreasonable cases.

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----==_mimepart_5b459d2567808_66ab2aab2c276f5863121-- From nobody Tue Jul 10 23:11:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30F1130DDB for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dOiKc4jF_UlD for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F3ED126F72 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:11:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531289477; bh=6Pj4LsIBlPRSeVdgdql39VYZz90O6jdjOEYnNZugbv0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iHh8XiS+slaTOpqNHnkJK3ey/amGXKRS7Lu4VbJS9RfObEex41gDXXlMOQGsjnsAD /ZUtJVfgPUyBHf8U5xwJiwqWrs/nb4w55IN5Ac0j6jw8ARF7S97iIYqlRPyk6a1uW3 LwSpBlWL4pDiZjXws/R+u3BFXJ6k5jqggC+bk4Rc= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Datagram 1200 (#1548) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b459f85c3a1c_7d03fbc06e26f88457e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 06:11:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b459f85c3a1c_7d03fbc06e26f88457e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. Largely editorial nits. > -However, there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded. -Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest -cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers, -signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable -parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow. - -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie -extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single +UDP datagram. This places constraints on the first ClientHello message. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer **a** connection ID with non-zero length, perhaps? > -Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest -cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers, -signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable -parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow. - -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie -extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single +UDP datagram. This places constraints on the first ClientHello message. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer +than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet. longer than octets? > -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie -extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single +UDP datagram. This places constraints on the first ClientHello message. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer +than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet. + +With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet +with ample space remaining. However, aside from the overheads added by QUIC, +there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded. Large +session tickets or HelloRetryRequest cookies, multiple or large key shares, and You say below that HelloRetryRequest-triggered ClientHellos are exempt from this restriction, so it might be less confusing to omit that from your list of examples. > + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer +than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet. + +With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet +with ample space remaining. However, aside from the overheads added by QUIC, +there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded. Large +session tickets or HelloRetryRequest cookies, multiple or large key shares, and +long lists of supported ciphers, signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport +parameters, and other negotiable parameters and extensions could cause this +message to grow. + +For servers, in addition to connection ID and tokens, the size of TLS session +tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie extensions can have an effect on a client's Same. > -signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable -parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow. - -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie -extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single +UDP datagram. This places constraints on the first ClientHello message. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer +than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet. + +With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet Given that 1200 is a minimum, not a maximum, it might be worth calling out that the datagram can be larger than 1200 if needed. > + +With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet +with ample space remaining. However, aside from the overheads added by QUIC, +there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded. Large +session tickets or HelloRetryRequest cookies, multiple or large key shares, and +long lists of supported ciphers, signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport +parameters, and other negotiable parameters and extensions could cause this +message to grow. + +For servers, in addition to connection ID and tokens, the size of TLS session +tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie extensions can have an effect on a client's +ability to connect. Choosing a small value increases the probability that these +values can be successfully used by a client. + +A client is not required to fit a ClientHello that is sent in response to +HelloRetryRequest in a single UDP datagram. Consistency nits: - You use "a" before other TLS handshake messages, so "**a** HelloRetryRequest" - You use "fit into" elsewhere, but "fit ... in" here. > -An Initial packet MAY exceed 1200 octets if the client knows that the Path -Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU) supports the size that it chooses. +The datagram containing an Initial packet MAY exceed 1200 octets if the client Since we're still talking about "the first Initial packet [the client] sends," perhaps "the first" or "this" instead of "an"? > A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in -response to an Initial packet smaller than 1200 octets. It MUST NOT send any -other frame type in response, or otherwise behave as if any part of the -offending packet was processed as valid. +response to an Initial packet contained in a UDP datagram that is smaller than ...but only if it's the first Initial packet on the connection, right? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1548#pullrequestreview-136099506 ----==_mimepart_5b459f85c3a1c_7d03fbc06e26f88457e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

Largely editorial nits.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -However, there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.
-Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest
-cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers,
-signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable
-parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single
+UDP datagram.  This places constraints on the first ClientHello message.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer

a connection ID with non-zero length, perhaps?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest
-cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers,
-signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable
-parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single
+UDP datagram.  This places constraints on the first ClientHello message.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer
+than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet.

longer than octets?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single
+UDP datagram.  This places constraints on the first ClientHello message.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer
+than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet.
+
+With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet
+with ample space remaining.  However, aside from the overheads added by QUIC,
+there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.  Large
+session tickets or HelloRetryRequest cookies, multiple or large key shares, and

You say below that HelloRetryRequest-triggered ClientHellos are exempt from this restriction, so it might be less confusing to omit that from your list of examples.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer
+than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet.
+
+With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet
+with ample space remaining.  However, aside from the overheads added by QUIC,
+there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.  Large
+session tickets or HelloRetryRequest cookies, multiple or large key shares, and
+long lists of supported ciphers, signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport
+parameters, and other negotiable parameters and extensions could cause this
+message to grow.
+
+For servers, in addition to connection ID and tokens, the size of TLS session
+tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie extensions can have an effect on a client's

Same.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable
-parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single
+UDP datagram.  This places constraints on the first ClientHello message.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer
+than octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet.
+
+With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet

Given that 1200 is a minimum, not a maximum, it might be worth calling out that the datagram can be larger than 1200 if needed.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +
+With these overheads, a typical TLS ClientHello can fit into a 1200 octet packet
+with ample space remaining.  However, aside from the overheads added by QUIC,
+there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.  Large
+session tickets or HelloRetryRequest cookies, multiple or large key shares, and
+long lists of supported ciphers, signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport
+parameters, and other negotiable parameters and extensions could cause this
+message to grow.
+
+For servers, in addition to connection ID and tokens, the size of TLS session
+tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie extensions can have an effect on a client's
+ability to connect.  Choosing a small value increases the probability that these
+values can be successfully used by a client.
+
+A client is not required to fit a ClientHello that is sent in response to
+HelloRetryRequest in a single UDP datagram.

Consistency nits:

  • You use "a" before other TLS handshake messages, so "a HelloRetryRequest"
  • You use "fit into" elsewhere, but "fit ... in" here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An Initial packet MAY exceed 1200 octets if the client knows that the Path
-Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU) supports the size that it chooses.
+The datagram containing an Initial packet MAY exceed 1200 octets if the client

Since we're still talking about "the first Initial packet [the client] sends," perhaps "the first" or "this" instead of "an"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in
-response to an Initial packet smaller than 1200 octets. It MUST NOT send any
-other frame type in response, or otherwise behave as if any part of the
-offending packet was processed as valid.
+response to an Initial packet contained in a UDP datagram that is smaller than

...but only if it's the first Initial packet on the connection, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -However, there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.
-Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest
-cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers,
-signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable
-parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a single
+UDP datagram.  This places constraints on the first ClientHello message.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer

A QUIC packet can hardly fit into more than a single UDP datagram, so perhaps be clear that the TLS message must fit within the first Initial QUIC packet. - if that is the intention.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3791,9 +3791,9 @@ The two type bits from a Stream ID therefore identify streams as summarized in
 
 The first bi-directional stream opened by the client is stream 0.
 
-A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Streams can be used in any order.
-Streams that are used out of order result in opening all lower-numbered streams
-of the same type in the same direction.
+A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Streams of each type are created in
+numeric order.  Streams that are used out of order result in opening all
+lower-numbered streams of the same type in the same direction.

It is a bit unclear what the difference is between "use", "create", "send", and "receive". I read such that "create" has to do with allocating a stream ID at or below the MAX ID but not necessarily sending. So a stream can be created silently and later some lower number stream can have its first frame sent - doing so accounts for a "use". For the receiver "use" either means "receive" or it means keep received frames buffered and pretend it is not there, but eventually "use" one.

I realize there is nothing enforceable about these distinctions, but it might affect buffering strategies.

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@martinthomson not sure you sa= w my comment since you just made and update to that section that didn't a= ddress it, or perhaps you disagree, but:

QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client be sent in a= single
UDP datagram.

This sentence doesn't make sense to me because all QUIC packets are ne= cessarily placed in a UDP single datagram. The intention is of course the= the initial client hello TLS message must fit within the QUIC initial pa= cket.

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MAY or SHOULD are both fine with me. However, if we say MAY, are we obliged to recommend some reasonable rate-limiting strategy to avoid sending a RETRY for every single incoming packet?

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@nibanks approved this pull request.

Looks good. One minor nit.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3629,19 +3629,24 @@ The details of loss detection and congestion control are described in
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and integrity check, but not the
 UDP or IP header.
 
-Clients MUST pad any Initial packet it sends to have a QUIC packet size of at
-least 1200 octets. Sending an Initial packet of this size ensures that the
-network path supports a reasonably sized packet, and helps reduce the amplitude
-of amplification attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client
-address.
+Clients MUST pad ensure that the first Initial packet it sends is sent in a UDP

MUST pad ensure that? Should pad be removed here?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3969,6 +3970,10 @@ Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the
 stream and is providing flow control credit.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might
 arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
+In addition to the exchange of frames related to the stream, a stream is created

I find this paragraph a bit confusing. Are you trying to say that if a frame for a new stream arrives, all lower numbered unopened streams of the same type must be opened?

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Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire +crytographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello. Though a +packet larger than 1200 octets might be supported by the path, a client improves +the likelihood that a packet is accepted if it ensures that the first +ClientHello message is small enough to stay within this limit. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the I think the first "overheads" is unnecessary and the second can be "overhead" > -signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable -parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow. - -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie -extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire +crytographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello. Though a +packet larger than 1200 octets might be supported by the path, a client improves +the likelihood that a packet is accepted if it ensures that the first +ClientHello message is small enough to stay within this limit. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses a connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer nor does it -> and does not > -parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow. - -For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie -extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Choosing a small -value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a -client. +QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire +crytographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello. Though a +packet larger than 1200 octets might be supported by the path, a client improves +the likelihood that a packet is accepted if it ensures that the first +ClientHello message is small enough to stay within this limit. + +QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the +ClientHello message. That overhead increases if the client chooses a connection +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer +than 8 octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet. This sentence is long, maybe a comma after "octets" > +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer +than 8 octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet. + +A typical TLS ClientHello can easily fit into a 1200 octet packet. However, in +addition to the overheads added by QUIC, there are several variables that could +cause this limit to be exceeded. Large session tickets, multiple or large key +shares, and long lists of supported ciphers, signature algorithms, versions, +QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable parameters and extensions could +cause this message to grow. + +For servers, in addition to connection ID and tokens, the size of TLS session +tickets can have an effect on a client's ability to connect. Minimizing the +size of these values increases the probability that they can be successfully +used by a client. + +A client is not required to fit the ClientHello that it sends in response to a Is this because HRR is assumed to be stateful? > @@ -3629,19 +3629,24 @@ The details of loss detection and congestion control are described in The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and integrity check, but not the UDP or IP header. -Clients MUST pad any Initial packet it sends to have a QUIC packet size of at -least 1200 octets. Sending an Initial packet of this size ensures that the -network path supports a reasonably sized packet, and helps reduce the amplitude -of amplification attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client -address. +Clients MUST pad ensure that the first Initial packet it sends is sent in a UDP MUST pad to ensure? > @@ -3629,19 +3629,24 @@ The details of loss detection and congestion control are described in The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and integrity check, but not the UDP or IP header. -Clients MUST pad any Initial packet it sends to have a QUIC packet size of at -least 1200 octets. Sending an Initial packet of this size ensures that the -network path supports a reasonably sized packet, and helps reduce the amplitude -of amplification attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client -address. +Clients MUST pad ensure that the first Initial packet it sends is sent in a UDP +datagram that is at least 1200 octets. Padding the Initial packet is a good way +to ensure this, though including a 0-RTT packet in the same datagram is also a How about: "Padding the Initial packet or including a 0-RTT packet in the same datagram are ways to meet this requirement." Feel free to add good if you want, but that seems unnecessary. > -An Initial packet MAY exceed 1200 octets if the client knows that the Path -Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU) supports the size that it chooses. +The datagram containing the first Initial packet from a client MAY exceed 1200 +octets if the client knows that the Path Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU) knows -> believes -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1548#pullrequestreview-136243347 ----==_mimepart_5b460b4cc5be9_6bb13fcb909fef8442650 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest
-cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers,
-signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable
-parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire
+crytographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello.  Though a
+packet larger than 1200 octets might be supported by the path, a client improves
+the likelihood that a packet is accepted if it ensures that the first
+ClientHello message is small enough to stay within this limit.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the

I think the first "overheads" is unnecessary and the second can be "overhead"

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -signature algorithms, versions, QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable
-parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire
+crytographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello.  Though a
+packet larger than 1200 octets might be supported by the path, a client improves
+the likelihood that a packet is accepted if it ensures that the first
+ClientHello message is small enough to stay within this limit.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses a connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer

nor does it -> and does not

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -parameters and extensions could cause this message to grow.
-
-For servers, the size of the session tickets and HelloRetryRequest cookie
-extension can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Choosing a small
-value increases the probability that these values can be successfully used by a
-client.
+QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire
+crytographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello.  Though a
+packet larger than 1200 octets might be supported by the path, a client improves
+the likelihood that a packet is accepted if it ensures that the first
+ClientHello message is small enough to stay within this limit.
+
+QUIC packet and framing overheads add at least 36 octets of overheads to the
+ClientHello message.  That overhead increases if the client chooses a connection
+ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer
+than 8 octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet.

This sentence is long, maybe a comma after "octets"

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +ID without zero length, nor does it include the token or a connection ID longer
+than 8 octets that might be required if a server sends a Retry packet.
+
+A typical TLS ClientHello can easily fit into a 1200 octet packet.  However, in
+addition to the overheads added by QUIC, there are several variables that could
+cause this limit to be exceeded.  Large session tickets, multiple or large key
+shares, and long lists of supported ciphers, signature algorithms, versions,
+QUIC transport parameters, and other negotiable parameters and extensions could
+cause this message to grow.
+
+For servers, in addition to connection ID and tokens, the size of TLS session
+tickets can have an effect on a client's ability to connect.  Minimizing the
+size of these values increases the probability that they can be successfully
+used by a client.
+
+A client is not required to fit the ClientHello that it sends in response to a

Is this because HRR is assumed to be stateful?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3629,19 +3629,24 @@ The details of loss detection and congestion control are described in
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and integrity check, but not the
 UDP or IP header.
 
-Clients MUST pad any Initial packet it sends to have a QUIC packet size of at
-least 1200 octets. Sending an Initial packet of this size ensures that the
-network path supports a reasonably sized packet, and helps reduce the amplitude
-of amplification attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client
-address.
+Clients MUST pad ensure that the first Initial packet it sends is sent in a UDP

MUST pad to ensure?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3629,19 +3629,24 @@ The details of loss detection and congestion control are described in
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and integrity check, but not the
 UDP or IP header.
 
-Clients MUST pad any Initial packet it sends to have a QUIC packet size of at
-least 1200 octets. Sending an Initial packet of this size ensures that the
-network path supports a reasonably sized packet, and helps reduce the amplitude
-of amplification attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client
-address.
+Clients MUST pad ensure that the first Initial packet it sends is sent in a UDP
+datagram that is at least 1200 octets. Padding the Initial packet is a good way
+to ensure this, though including a 0-RTT packet in the same datagram is also a

How about: "Padding the Initial packet or including a 0-RTT packet in the same datagram are ways to meet this requirement." Feel free to add good if you want, but that seems unnecessary.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An Initial packet MAY exceed 1200 octets if the client knows that the Path
-Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU) supports the size that it chooses.
+The datagram containing the first Initial packet from a client MAY exceed 1200
+octets if the client knows that the Path Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU)

knows -> believes

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+## Saturday, 14 July, 2018

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These are replaced with: ODCIL: -: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field as an unsigned - 8-bit integer. This field does not use the same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL - fields. +: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field. The length is + encoded in the least significant bit of the octet using the same encoding as Needs more than one bit. > + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet +with a bogus new Source Connection ID. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. A server that will not send +additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value. But it's already rejecting a ODCID that doesn't match what it picked, and it has to have picked something >= 8 bytes, no? > @@ -731,12 +733,18 @@ If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the Token field of its Initial packet. -A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths -would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). -A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network -attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or -network interface. A client needs to start the connection process over if it -migrates prior to completing the handshake. +A token allows a server to correlate activity between connections. +Specifically, the connection where the token was issued, and any connection +where it is used. Clients that want to break continuity of identity with a +server MAY discard tokens provided using the NEW_TOKEN frame. Tokens obtained +in Retry packets MUST NOT be discarded. The prohibition below is on using a token on two different network paths. But since the token is likely to contain address validation information, should we recommend against using the token from a different address than the one where it was received? Or is that solely a risk of server tracking and it's covered in the privacy-from-server paragraph here? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#pullrequestreview-136404800 ----==_mimepart_5b4666843df30_3333fbca5d1cf802934df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -568,9 +568,11 @@ Packet Number, and Payload fields.  These are replaced with:
 
 ODCIL:
 
-: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field as an unsigned
-  8-bit integer.  This field does not use the same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL
-  fields.
+: The length of the Original Destination Connection ID field.  The length is
+  encoded in the least significant bit of the octet using the same encoding as

Needs more than one bit.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet
+with a bogus new Source Connection ID.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  A server that will not send
+additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value.

But it's already rejecting a ODCID that doesn't match what it picked, and it has to have picked something >= 8 bytes, no?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -731,12 +733,18 @@ If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
 to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
 Token field of its Initial packet.
 
-A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
-would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it
-migrates prior to completing the handshake.
+A token allows a server to correlate activity between connections.
+Specifically, the connection where the token was issued, and any connection
+where it is used.  Clients that want to break continuity of identity with a
+server MAY discard tokens provided using the NEW_TOKEN frame.  Tokens obtained
+in Retry packets MUST NOT be discarded.

The prohibition below is on using a token on two different network paths. But since the token is likely to contain address validation information, should we recommend against using the token from a different address than the one where it was received? Or is that solely a risk of server tracking and it's covered in the privacy-from-server paragraph here?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3969,6 +3970,10 @@ Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the
 stream and is providing flow control credit.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might
 arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
+In addition to the exchange of frames related to the stream, a stream is created

That's the point of this PR, yes.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet
+with a bogus new Source Connection ID.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  A server that will not send
+additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value.

minor: to a new value

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I think there are more cleanups to be done, possibly by adding a terminology section for bytes_in_flight, etc, but I'd like to do that in a separate PR if it's a good idea.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -* ACK and ACK_ECN frames contain acknowledgment information. ACK_ECN frames
-  additionally contain information about ECN codepoints seen by the peer.  (The
-  rest of this document uses ACK frames to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN
-  frames.)
+QUIC packets can contain multiple frames of different types. The recovery
+mechanisms ensure that data and frames that need reliable delivery are
+acknowledged or declared lost and sent in new packets as necessary. The types
+of frames contained in a packet affect recovery and congestion control logic:
+
+* All packets are acknowledged, though packets that contain only ACK,
+  ACK_ECN, and PADDING frames are not acknowledged immediately.  Packets
+  containing at least one frame besides ACK, ACK_ECN, and PADDING are referred
+  to as retransmittable below.
+
+* Packets that contain CRYPTO frames are critical to the performance of the
+  QUIC handshake and use shorter timers for acknowledgement and retransmission.

Technically, this isn't (or need not be) true once you've reached 1-RTT. Are NewSessionTicket messages treated with equally high priority?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -110,8 +110,9 @@ of frames contained in a packet affect recovery and congestion control logic:
   containing at least one frame besides ACK, ACK_ECN, and PADDING are referred
   to as retransmittable below.
 
-* Packets that contain CRYPTO frames are critical to the performance of the
-  QUIC handshake and use shorter timers for acknowledgement and retransmission.
+* Long header ackets that contain CRYPTO frames are critical to the performance

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----==_mimepart_5b468005a323b_5e5c2b105cd74f50308491-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 15:10:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9F4130E73 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:10:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WHdkh3L0s2Mi for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65C96130E35 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:10:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531347034; bh=Mim7ev0tgl+LAxpN9bOk+kePBUz7coGqIE7S3BVylPM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Z/dv0tQXW0Ti6MeQQKpC041FuUKFZN6uFfhahxLnD/J03324hJ1ljDDwihv6msaXZ dYBZEGWbv5sD2Yadnt+fMUkYyRNVBRR7udIhzHy5o1ROjAMYuOYt7i03Jvgm8W22RE eNOrg4wn/g1soPElxg+aUzTLiXV7fDd8Q/bz1DhA= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration should be indistinguishable from a new connection (#203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46805a9c604_5e612b105cd74f502381d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:10:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46805a9c604_5e612b105cd74f502381d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This proposes a change to the invariants. By definition, then, it can't be v2. My feeling is that we've sufficiently stabilized our choices in the invariants and we should close this with no further action. +1. FWIW, my understanding is that the Invariants draft does not require long header packets to be used for connection establishment. Therefore, my understanding is that we will still have the chance to fix the issue in v2 or later versions, by starting to send everything in short packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/203#issuecomment-404326683 ----==_mimepart_5b46805a9c604_5e612b105cd74f502381d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This proposes a change to the invariants. By definition, then, it can'= t be v2. My feeling is that we've sufficiently stabilized our choices in = the invariants and we should close this with no further action.

+1.

FWIW, my understanding is that the Invariants draft does not require l= ong header packets to be used for connection establishment. Therefore, my= understanding is that we will still have the chance to fix the issue in = v2 or later versions, by starting to send everything in short packets.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b46805a9c604_5e612b105cd74f502381d5-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 15:15:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B846130F88 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:15:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qzNCpaFDQ1xt for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D341130EAA for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:15:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531347312; bh=Ah2zKb4hF3/6qDzzdhPevi11bgipzmuEOD6QscYOS6A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jAL3Q/2+ViBPND8MZ/zLYliRJXGpEP8JFX54dawVyqyJl4FnI9OY4lAg/PbnvTjWP Ap4hv1yjWisszF2chswjBwx3BDTqfforwuvj2J7hWA43ltozvaRVY2A+GN2feFUbmy 3OGLf6r2n0V6Jp6e2lQvB03PcqcsCvjFq4qRGUJQ= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration should be indistinguishable from a new connection (#203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4681708319f_76a3ff88c59ef8832635"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:15:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4681708319f_76a3ff88c59ef8832635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, that is in the invariants: > A QUIC endpoint that receives a packet with a long header and a version it either does not understand or does not support might send a Version Negotiation packet in response. Packets with a short header do not trigger version negotiation and are always associated with an existing connection. So if we want to change this, we need to change it now. And I haven't heard any appetite to swallow that change at this point in the process. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/203#issuecomment-404327701 ----==_mimepart_5b4681708319f_76a3ff88c59ef8832635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually, that is in the invariants:

A QUIC endpoint that receives a packet with a long header and a versio= n it either does not understand or does not support might send a Version = Negotiation packet in response. Packets with a short header do not trigge= r version negotiation and are always associated with an existing connecti= on.

So if we want to change this, we need to change it now. And I haven't= heard any appetite to swallow that change at this point in the process.<= /p>

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4681708319f_76a3ff88c59ef8832635-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 16:35:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED23127333 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w7b-nFVHeqwX for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FC58130F05 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531352111; bh=g6pf2Df/LB6TXCy1i1RAs36Vo/1p0FAs93ytI6ttuQo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dYAZuQp4keW5QUExEbMmKBNf2nlI3xKsKal6PhgrXveAgLChCzK2IMsOMtuITwOmC WbLjPftJsCYgFmMc1lhmDM74ZZbZZ8hKC2Ceh0sxfVRHA9zXJXgH8DVevIG2t6QN2I DI/YW2u91iHfRHkPrt016ra4au+OWYqtuu+S1b2c= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove the discussion about when to use long header (#1550) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46942f7f705_139b2b1b36ec6f54664e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:35:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46942f7f705_139b2b1b36ec6f54664e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think current text is a bit too restrictive, and that it might cause misunderstanding. * V2 and later versions should have the freedom to decide when to trigger version negotiation (note: version negotiation requires the use of long header packets). * Removes the false impression that the use of a path always start with a long header. That is not the case for v1 due to involuntary NAT rebinding. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1550 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove the discussion about when to use long header. Reasons: -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1550.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1550.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1550 ----==_mimepart_5b46942f7f705_139b2b1b36ec6f54664e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think current text is a bit too restrictive, and that it might cause misunderstanding.

  • V2 and later versions should have the freedom to decide when to trigger version negotiation (note: version negotiation requires the use of long header packets).
  • Removes the false impression that the use of a path always start with a long header. That is not the case for v1 due to involuntary NAT rebinding.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1550

Commit Summary

  • Remove the discussion about when to use long header. Reasons:

File Changes

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----==_mimepart_5b46942f7f705_139b2b1b36ec6f54664e4-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 16:35:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41326130F05 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fv9DLQO3-E8q for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43CE7127333 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:35:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531352137; bh=zvmeMBWauzWuaetXSsOWPs6EZ53KO5GYKMWHjwgEsMA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jY0wyV9kVC8EXjWq0hSd4LtH7ACmq/ejWHQ/o/tmf5KpkUnANNwUs/lu9IlqvbPxW Jwi17cQ3MH9GP5NiIMwJ3QJ85+LjM3RLtvmill3+2tI9yxpRtj3iPD2MyxPPBUUV/8 n+T32L+/b6+pEfA8sSAWb3FU/NUQ0zGqWUemT0zU= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration should be indistinguishable from a new connection (#203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4694496d330_2ac92aae841faf601311b1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:35:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4694496d330_2ac92aae841faf601311b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for pointing that out. I had missed that. Created PR #1550. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/203#issuecomment-404342931 ----==_mimepart_5b4694496d330_2ac92aae841faf601311b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thank you for pointing that out. I had missed that. Created PR #1550.

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1:1 shouldn't cause any problems, even if Retry is larger than the 0-RTT packets (which it shouldn't be). With the changes in #1498, the client can easily identify and filter out extra Retry packets.

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Commit: 48d054f011ef3b853144b9dd222024bee885ed00 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48d054f011ef3b853144b9dd222024bee885ed00 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Restructure and refactor description Commit: 67278eb723afb5b65d3eaf57cd7f2eee6b2e85d4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/67278eb723afb5b65d3eaf57cd7f2eee6b2e85d4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Explaining this was harder than I realized Commit: 83a15cdd1be5ff3b6f287adf9af2abb96dd7b2ef https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83a15cdd1be5ff3b6f287adf9af2abb96dd7b2ef Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- More fixups Commit: a558f795e08a8199000695bb0128aa01435ee285 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a558f795e08a8199000695bb0128aa01435ee285 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1542 from quicwg/split-flow-control-tp Split initial MAX_STREAM_DATA transport parameters Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6e2437f5490e...a558f795e08a **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b4698a591799_c572b1a9e0bbc185099a-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 16:54:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01D5130F2B for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:54:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KR4V7EcMkbpC for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1DD4130E73 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:54:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531353255; bh=tvK3u9mSCGtG1BGPpoGqdXR7uBG7vZGwzZ+sRlFuH7Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TvHOQZzNJEM7AGTT7+7tyiw/bfPo8BlKO69V6izxMs3wi6VV8Pd9eE219NtEYDGLI IK/+ciqzJe0YMEwEGBwm3QlWf2dXUUS/1KGyuNBvqhEpIGcbRRTli2Pn8A8W9doOJ4 YqaJs2qteo3ROWxSST6EocJA6gVouFzLiSKLVhkI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split stream initial flow control (#1016) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4698a7c5df5_147613f978811ef7c73793"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:54:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4698a7c5df5_147613f978811ef7c73793 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1016 via #1542. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5b469a127bf87_6d673feed893cf7c652c0-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 17:05:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E67C130E73 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:05:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HE65lLn1k_8s for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 283C5124BE5 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:05:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531353926; bh=+mkmYF2MPTyiLacV0ue81bMEQR2Wp2zA6EhXZie3fKA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XPlqfdNSLg0d2gTu8Eus++1WJzeqWryiXH9UJ1jV6LYGGIrUxkayWmwFu+1b9nTTm b34/aTkK4KeyM70TKxrID2SKLBCz3oe1PxNci3G7AZnp0pd0wHGUQdPMVBJ/otonLI tN4jU+W1E6whniEOaisg+X7UIDSzyOq6icW5KuIY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b469b462c277_67bc3fa29c972f88585d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 00:05:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b469b462c277_67bc3fa29c972f88585d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not think that the requirement to send EOED using a 0-RTT packet is complex enough to justify the changes to the TLS handshake transcript. My understanding is that TLS stacks emits EOED when 1-RTT write key becomes available (otherwise in TLS over TCP a client will have a moment when it cannot send any data, which is silly). 1-RTT read key will be available at that moment, so you can always be certain that you can receive an ACK for EOED. In other words, retransmission is not an issue. Note also that clients have the freedom to continue retransmitting 0-RTT packets with application data even after receiving the 1-RTT write key. That is what TLS over TCP exactly does. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-404347844 ----==_mimepart_5b469b462c277_67bc3fa29c972f88585d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I do not think that the requirement to send EOED using a 0-RTT packet = is complex enough to justify the changes to the TLS handshake transcript.=

My understanding is that TLS stacks emits EOED when 1-RTT write key be= comes available (otherwise in TLS over TCP a client will have a moment wh= en it cannot send any data, which is silly). 1-RTT read key will be avail= able at that moment, so you can always be certain that you can receive an= ACK for EOED.

In other words, retransmission is not an issue.

Note also that clients have the freedom to continue retransmitting 0-R= TT packets with application data even after receiving the 1-RTT write key= . That is what TLS over TCP exactly does.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet +with a bogus new Source Connection ID. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. A server that will not send +additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value. I thought that I caught that already. ekr is right, if you send the first Initial with DCIL>=8 and the server respects this rule, then you will never ever get a Retry with ODCIL>=8. mikkel, any value is correct. The server can keep the old value if that suits it. > @@ -731,12 +733,18 @@ If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the Token field of its Initial packet. -A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token. Reusing a token on different network paths -would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). -A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network -attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or -network interface. A client needs to start the connection process over if it -migrates prior to completing the handshake. +A token allows a server to correlate activity between connections. +Specifically, the connection where the token was issued, and any connection +where it is used. Clients that want to break continuity of identity with a +server MAY discard tokens provided using the NEW_TOKEN frame. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet
+with a bogus new Source Connection ID.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  A server that will not send
+additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value.

I thought that I caught that already.

ekr is right, if you send the first Initial with DCIL>=8 and the server respects this rule, then you will never ever get a Retry with ODCIL>=8.

mikkel, any value is correct. The server can keep the old value if that suits it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -731,12 +733,18 @@ If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
 to what it believes to be the same server, it can include that value in the
 Token field of its Initial packet.
 
-A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token.  Reusing a token on different network paths
-would allow activity to be linked between paths (see {{migration-linkability}}).
-A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network
-attachment has changed; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or
-network interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it
-migrates prior to completing the handshake.
+A token allows a server to correlate activity between connections.
+Specifically, the connection where the token was issued, and any connection
+where it is used.  Clients that want to break continuity of identity with a
+server MAY discard tokens provided using the NEW_TOKEN frame.  Tokens obtained
+in Retry packets MUST NOT be discarded.

Yes, the intent of this paragraph is to cover that. The paragraph below is privacy-from-network.

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Can we please get a more descriptive title than "Mo' Problems"?

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ekr also had a few comments that I've integrated.

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Reasons: * V2 and later versions should have the freedom to decide when to trigger version negotiation (note: version negotiation requires the use of long header packets). * Removes the false impression that the use of a path always start with a long header. That is not the case for v1 due to involuntary NAT rebinding. Commit: 3a05e5472c55e77370596a3ed3b15c71dcd4bcfa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a05e5472c55e77370596a3ed3b15c71dcd4bcfa Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Add another bad assumption Commit: 8f64ad3dbe80331f3a16ac8c231892a9edd0dbf0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8f64ad3dbe80331f3a16ac8c231892a9edd0dbf0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1550 from kazuho/kazuho/invariants/when-to-use-long-headers Remove the discussion about when to use long header Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a558f795e08a...8f64ad3dbe80 **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b46a78345875_28682ac1045a5c1834477-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 17:57:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AAE130DD8 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aCYXbTG7Z4o4 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE165130FA8 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:57:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531357062; bh=cWuKVrzsf0WH3fHTZJunmpAsu55Tz9tgQbz6jMSlNfo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UUAHpt1kVrNNIUpENj8P3yHgBSp4KBXzjFGghYv1pbZN7BkNGY8ySanqi9YCKaAJK vDoUHgfOMApPWyENP3rkZWALcnLcp0vKjeoV0hRgDMbcpC9KvIzxrlHKfnwb+4I9KS Wb/RfRYvUQvRo83KzcMTQv/xBpSex9Wt7T/xmsR0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove the discussion about when to use long header (#1550) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46a7864a9fb_58472ab29005cf542171dd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 00:57:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46a7864a9fb_58472ab29005cf542171dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1550. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered. +In addition to the exchange of frames related to the stream, a stream is created How about "Before creating a higher numbered stream, all lower numbered streams of the same type MUST be created." ? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1549#discussion_r201888062 ----==_mimepart_5b46b344528cf_48703f985a25cf883873a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3969,6 +3970,10 @@ Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the
 stream and is providing flow control credit.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might
 arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
+In addition to the exchange of frames related to the stream, a stream is created

How about "Before creating a higher numbered stream, all lower numbered streams of the same type MUST be created." ?

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Some editorial improvements from re-reading the document in it's entirety.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3970,11 +3970,10 @@ Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the
 stream and is providing flow control credit.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might
 arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
-In addition to the exchange of frames related to the stream, a stream is created
-before any higher-numbered stream of the same type can be created.  That is,
-receipt of a frame that would open a stream causes all lower-numbered streams of
-the same type to be opened first.  This ensures that the creation order for
-streams is consistent on both endpoints.
+Before creating a stream, all lower-numbered stream of the same type MUST be

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A few suggestions. > @@ -216,9 +215,9 @@ implemented in QUIC. An unacknowledged packet is marked as lost when an acknowledgment is received for a packet that was sent a threshold number of packets (kReorderingThreshold) -after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the ack indicates that a later -packet was received, while kReorderingThreshold provides some tolerance for -reordering of packets in the network. +and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the +ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold s/the ack/an acknowledgement/ Is this sentence missing an "If" at the start? Maybe instead, "The reordering threshold provides some tolerance for reordering when acknowledgments indicate that packets were reordered." > @@ -227,12 +226,13 @@ We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon detecting -loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR -{{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience, though care should be -taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. Similarly, using time-based loss -detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP, should be more readily -usable in QUIC. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open research, -and implementers are encouraged to explore this space. +loss and spurious retransmissions. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed +for TCP, such as TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience, +though care should be taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. + +QUIC implementations may use time-based loss detection to deal with reordering, +such as in PR-TCP. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open +research, and implementers are encouraged to explore this space. MAY? Cite and expand PR-TCP? This paragraph looks like a good candidate for excision. It's not really necessary for this document to encourage research. > @@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ retransmittable packets are not acknowledged during this time, then these packets MUST be marked as lost. An endpoint SHOULD set the alarm such that a packet is marked as lost no earlier -than 1.25 * max(SRTT, latest_RTT) since when it was sent. +than 1.125 * max(SRTT, latest_RTT) since when it was sent. This isn't really editorial. > @@ -628,7 +629,7 @@ are as follows: this packet, but it is not retransmittable. * is_handshake_packet: A boolean that indicates whether a packet contains - handshake data. + a CRYPTO frame in a long header packet. Maybe say " A boolean that indicates whether the packet contains cryptographic handshake messages critical to the completion of the QUIC handshake. In this version of QUIC, this includes any packet with the long header that includes a CRYPTO frame." > @@ -653,7 +654,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows: ### On Receiving an Acknowledgment -When an ACK frame is received, it may acknowledge 0 or more packets. +When an ACK frame is received, it may acknowledge 0 or more new packets. ... it could newly acknowledge any number of packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1551#pullrequestreview-136482465 ----==_mimepart_5b46bc0b1b03c_2b7b2b0030b6cf50720683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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A few suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -216,9 +215,9 @@ implemented in QUIC.
 
 An unacknowledged packet is marked as lost when an acknowledgment is received
 for a packet that was sent a threshold number of packets (kReorderingThreshold)
-after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the ack indicates that a later
-packet was received, while kReorderingThreshold provides some tolerance for
-reordering of packets in the network.
+and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the
+ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold

s/the ack/an acknowledgement/

Is this sentence missing an "If" at the start? Maybe instead, "The reordering threshold provides some tolerance for reordering when acknowledgments indicate that packets were reordered."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -227,12 +226,13 @@ We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
 reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
 losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
 performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon detecting
-loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR
-{{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience, though care should be
-taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. Similarly, using time-based loss
-detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP, should be more readily
-usable in QUIC. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open research,
-and implementers are encouraged to explore this space.
+loss and spurious retransmissions. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed
+for TCP, such as TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience,
+though care should be taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly.
+
+QUIC implementations may use time-based loss detection to deal with reordering,
+such as in PR-TCP. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open
+research, and implementers are encouraged to explore this space.

MAY? Cite and expand PR-TCP?

This paragraph looks like a good candidate for excision. It's not really necessary for this document to encourage research.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ retransmittable packets are not acknowledged during this time, then these
 packets MUST be marked as lost.
 
 An endpoint SHOULD set the alarm such that a packet is marked as lost no earlier
-than 1.25 * max(SRTT, latest_RTT) since when it was sent.
+than 1.125 * max(SRTT, latest_RTT) since when it was sent.

This isn't really editorial.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -628,7 +629,7 @@ are as follows:
   this packet, but it is not retransmittable.
 
 * is_handshake_packet: A boolean that indicates whether a packet contains
-  handshake data.
+  a CRYPTO frame in a long header packet.

Maybe say " A boolean that indicates whether the packet contains cryptographic handshake messages critical to the completion of the QUIC handshake. In this version of QUIC, this includes any packet with the long header that includes a CRYPTO frame."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -653,7 +654,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows:
 
 ### On Receiving an Acknowledgment
 
-When an ACK frame is received, it may acknowledge 0 or more packets.
+When an ACK frame is received, it may acknowledge 0 or more new packets.

... it could newly acknowledge any number of packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ retransmittable packets are not acknowledged during this time, then these
 packets MUST be marked as lost.
 
 An endpoint SHOULD set the alarm such that a packet is marked as lost no earlier
-than 1.25 * max(SRTT, latest_RTT) since when it was sent.
+than 1.125 * max(SRTT, latest_RTT) since when it was sent.

True, but it's meant to align with the general 1/8 RTT reordering recommendation for time based loss detection.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

a few nits

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-* Cryptographic handshake data is sent in CRYPTO frames, and uses the
-  reliability machinery of QUIC underneath.
-
-* ACK and ACK_ECN frames contain acknowledgment information. ACK_ECN frames
-  additionally contain information about ECN codepoints seen by the peer.  (The

This sentence in the parenthesis is necessary for subsequent uses of the term "ACK frames"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-* Retransmittable frames are those that count towards bytes in flight and need
-  acknowledgement.  The most common are STREAM frames, which typically contain
-  application data.
+* All packets are acknowledged, though packets that contain only ACK,
+  ACK_ECN, and PADDING frames are not acknowledged immediately.  Packets
+  containing at least one frame besides ACK, ACK_ECN, and PADDING are referred
+  to as retransmittable below.

put "retransmittable" in quotes, for clarity

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -582,7 +583,8 @@ sent_packets:
 
 : An association of packet numbers to information about them, including a number
   field indicating the packet number, a time field indicating the time a packet
-  was sent, a boolean indicating whether the packet is ack only, and a bytes
+  was sent, a boolean indicating whether the packet is ack only, a boolen

boolean

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -623,9 +625,12 @@ are as follows:
 
 * packet_number: The packet number of the sent packet.
 
-* is_ack_only: A boolean that indicates whether a packet only contains an
-  ACK frame.  If true, it is still expected an ack will be received for
-  this packet, but it is not retransmittable.
+* ack_only: A boolean that indicates whether a packet only contains an

s/only contains an/contains only/

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I added something to the state machine and tweaked the critical text slightly. Closes #1342. Commit: 4fd3dc2427252a1b3f75f62ef4f7118ffae11219 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4fd3dc2427252a1b3f75f62ef4f7118ffae11219 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- For Ian Commit: 595c9dd73e5e9d17f1c39cac5fc36f82dcf26761 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/595c9dd73e5e9d17f1c39cac5fc36f82dcf26761 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- More tweaking Commit: da2ea39bbd7b6359ad7a711475a94dae3a68bcd4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da2ea39bbd7b6359ad7a711475a94dae3a68bcd4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Plural Commit: a0145a203feb85174b7ee1e7fb637323cae76e1b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a0145a203feb85174b7ee1e7fb637323cae76e1b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1549 from quicwg/implicit-open Fixup implicit stream opening Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/8f64ad3dbe80...a0145a203feb **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b46dbb97f70f_bbd2af99cb65c047617f-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 21:40:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F925131026 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sr9fud-9YfTN for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B74213100D for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:40:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531370428; bh=aD6fnaMA/w9Hp411omoR9oyyNWgkOKRWwQ7ir4BvGmw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WDcf0Ms6nkr63bv5hPZA3iCFd+rU1ZMx0ufQSANgVHJWQzVutzgjT0sEWHaM/E+Fw JFelXdxrLZgNx9WcZAr3YRuC1sY/AuOeh7VPvh70118ps1RepOEElbuCef5JkMhrdX +v3msALd5GyOWp0R5dAWJKE987dwtgGY7opRG6kM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixup implicit stream opening (#1549) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46dbbc842c6_566e2ad56e15ef502163bf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 04:40:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46dbbc842c6_566e2ad56e15ef502163bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1549. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes #1547. (Note the target of this PR. This is blocked on #1498.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1552 -- Commit Summary -- * Allow Retry in response to 0-RTT packets -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1552.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1552.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1552 ----==_mimepart_5b46df2330ba9_75c03fd927760f8013183a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes #1547.

(Note the target of this PR. This is blocked on #1498.)

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1552

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  • Allow Retry in response to 0-RTT packets

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----==_mimepart_5b46e12832cb_38682af65c0bef50486850-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 22:03:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5456D130EC8 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:03:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dnf2i4gpKAfp for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34122130EDD for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:03:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531371816; bh=EhMdTkStiZGWJKVAnmdZ3tDTysBQ5zCrBmBm1VqQxz4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=amrokgeBs61gCVctMQj/O9zjf5+Lz5nrdxFav7/3m5jes3H+x/WxfEG9eDjAitdJ8 l2H+hfaiAvI0C61vW5pPVqC/biqiQyI3nbNUrO66gwTSa7XCHZs4BKgZp8fwQ3qKLI IYkimpuWbGS/bdZ5o+AWIH9VegFXYyx35xJvQmk8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] What to do when part of a coalesced packet is invalid? (#1319) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46e12874b6e_66533fe7b0358f7c775ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 05:03:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46e12874b6e_66533fe7b0358f7c775ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that the current text is clear on this point: > Every QUIC packet that is coalesced into a single UDP datagram is separate and complete. [...] If one or more packets in a datagram cannot be processed yet (because the keys are not yet available) or processing fails (decryption failure, unknown type, etc.), the receiver MUST still attempt to process the remaining packets. Yes, this leads to the possibility of padding with junk. The only restriction on that is to match the connection ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1319#issuecomment-404390160 ----==_mimepart_5b46e12874b6e_66533fe7b0358f7c775ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I believe that the current text is clear on this point:

Every QUIC packet that is coalesced into a single UDP datagram is sepa= rate and
complete. [...] If one or more
packets in a datagram cannot be processed yet (because the keys are not y= et
available) or processing fails (decryption failure, unknown type, etc.), = the
receiver MUST still attempt to process the remaining packets.

Yes, this leads to the possibility of padding with junk. The only res= triction on that is to match the connection ID.

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(#1319) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46e73d50d9b_5972abdef7a6f5c1965ee"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 05:29:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46e73d50d9b_5972abdef7a6f5c1965ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (To be fair, that text was added after this issue was filed, and that PR probably should have closed this issue.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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(To be fair, that text was added after this issue was filed, and that PR probably should have closed this issue.)

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----==_mimepart_5b46e73d50d9b_5972abdef7a6f5c1965ee-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 22:53:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FC4130E54 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:53:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KMwh4p9AhH7m for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1553413100D for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:53:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531374789; bh=VQQ4S15y6NaFe0FnvJaZK7kkhc7zI0wr2qj8JiwhuPQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RFUJ1aHf/JHSsWoPU6H5CeQizSlHCZ2K/fHdk5tgBVqEQoOoLm0lIBbjSgngh4oCA jtzJqux+eoOVbs8lx5SPvP4CYcl9hjuoQv3djpj+aEM2yPh1lDgWINL8nTmCNOzJD5 XYXjJDJj+EOovTyBNTClGoNnZqFElERHShvDHw1M= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless reset oracle defense (#1386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46ecc51eb3d_506f2b09454faf50890a3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 05:53:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46ecc51eb3d_506f2b09454faf50890a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We discussed the secondary defense in Kista and concluded that any defense we might provide would be defeated easily by an attacker because the stateless reset oracle attack already depends on the attacker seeing packets for the connection. The attacker would consequently have the same information (if not more) than an endpoint that just lost state. We'll concentrate on the description of in-cluster routing defenses. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1386#issuecomment-404397557 ----==_mimepart_5b46ecc51eb3d_506f2b09454faf50890a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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...but prohibiting it might make it harder for us to define new uses for
packets with long headers.

Closes #1348.

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This enacts the plan discussed in #1386 and discussed in Kista.

Closes #1386.

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----==_mimepart_5b46ef234ce5c_aa33f9b419bef809219e-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 23:03:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238BA130DC6 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:03:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Gbo4P_t_Ay0 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E079130DCB for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:03:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531375395; bh=hvUBAxXJdt92b2DWUCErI5o2TYRXui3V9oZI4j0P7eI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fMhymyveR2Bi5gOqiLSnqA81JD34OZfA6K9ch4OTANLUK5/xjBHvLZd+IOU3kepKp p8aJF3uvVnGVkGJqKcq/uGeBH4GFobVRq3S4UxwNIbv7Bcs9gJBq+oVPwr2bqAFCkU dpeNFdOkp9bnH9KBsPKOmV3YOiDknfLr413ce9Cs= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] SNI encryption (#795) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46ef234610f_5be03fe18cc96f78580ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 06:03:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46ef234610f_5be03fe18cc96f78580ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My assessment here is that this will either happen in TLS or not and we don't need to track it specially in QUIC. No solution that I'm aware of will require changes to QUIC to be used because it all happens entirely outside the protocol (e.g., in DNS) or entirely within TLS. There's a small risk that the overzealous use of padding in some cases might make it hard for QUIC to benefit from this, or that the arrangement of the design is too narrow in applicability for it to apply to QUIC, but that seems unlikely given the actors. Those involved are motivated to have it work for QUIC. So I'm going to close this. If we need some changes to QUIC to support a particular design, we can discuss the specific requirements as they come up. Most likely, any such discussion would need to be left to v2. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/795#issuecomment-404399245 ----==_mimepart_5b46ef234610f_5be03fe18cc96f78580ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My assessment here is that this will either happen in TLS or not and w= e don't need to track it specially in QUIC. No solution that I'm aware o= f will require changes to QUIC to be used because it all happens entirely= outside the protocol (e.g., in DNS) or entirely within TLS.

There's a small risk that the overzealous use of padding in some cases= might make it hard for QUIC to benefit from this, or that the arrangemen= t of the design is too narrow in applicability for it to apply to QUIC, b= ut that seems unlikely given the actors. Those involved are motivated to= have it work for QUIC.

So I'm going to close this. If we need some changes to QUIC to suppor= t a particular design, we can discuss the specific requirements as they c= ome up. Most likely, any such discussion would need to be left to v2.

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There is one case I could see: An external DNS like solution affects the initial random ODCID so it isn't entirely random and routes to the appropriate target.

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It could actively be used to carry secondary protocols over a QUIC connection. For example routing information. It could be used by middleware to inject tracking information, or even on-path-attackers.

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There is no reason to permit secondary payload outside of the early handshake - it is just an open invitation to all sorts of unpredictable and unwanted behavior.

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----==_mimepart_5b46f4e5d83b6_78ea3fba4fef6f8475347-- From nobody Wed Jul 11 23:44:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9250F130EBC for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:43:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a_YFpypoDSIG for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16258130E13 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:43:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531377836; bh=rdajaiQhYdg7QVtQi9JEMTzjEJmAWL8asUIFfX9Euus=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MDgPAkhorWuPiff4o7rUllHNqw0/YiZ9vSgQU25x8Vvvs/T5XPVjvbiP/JwX17RLp H9rGe2IoxVS/OfP0n4LOF39wQOfjEvuCRktjEZj/n6ZmHaldJQ2m3rDKbZlAWTXDYy 4S+rv17LsYlFMF0xCfB6rFC0161ch/VqXvLqfD+w= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] SNI encryption (#795) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b46f8ac1a448_78b53fba4fef6f841534d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 06:43:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b46f8ac1a448_78b53fba4fef6f841534d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The specs wouldn't necessarily change there. It's basically a property of QUIC that the destination connection ID in a client's Initial packet is not controlled by the server, and therefore not really appropriate for use in routing packets in the same way that a connection ID that the server chooses is. If a solution for encrypting SNI proposed new ways of selecting the destination connection ID (I haven't seen that suggested, but I'll concede that it's possible), then they would have to work within that constraint. Either that, or request changes from QUIC. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/795#issuecomment-404406779 ----==_mimepart_5b46f8ac1a448_78b53fba4fef6f841534d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The specs wouldn't necessarily change there. It's basically a propert= y of QUIC that the destination connection ID in a client's Initial packet= is not controlled by the server, and therefore not really appropriate fo= r use in routing packets in the same way that a connection ID that the se= rver chooses is.

If a solution for encrypting SNI proposed new ways of selecting the de= stination connection ID (I haven't seen that suggested, but I'll concede = that it's possible), then they would have to work within that constraint.= Either that, or request changes from QUIC.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from most recent the Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet
+with a bogus new Source Connection ID.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  A server that will not send
+additional Retry packets can set the Source Connection ID to any value.

@martinthomson I thought it was a typo, missing an a not a question about semantics.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -594,7 +594,9 @@ of subsequent packets that it sends.
 A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
 acknowledged by a client.
 
-A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+A server MUST NOT send a Retry in response to packets other than Initial
+or 0-RTT packets.  A server MAY discard 0-RTT packets and only send Retry in
+response to Initial packets.

I would invert this last sentence:

"A server MAY choose to send Retry in response to Initial packets and discard or buffer 0-RTT packets corresponding to unvalidated client addresses."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +of subsequent packets that it sends.
+
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to new value of at least 8

@martinthomson, @mikkelfj's comment was directed to this line -- "to a new value"

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One comment throughout -- the use of lowercase "ack" reads oddly to me. Is that typical of TCP docs? I'd tend to either spell out "acknowledge[ment]" or refer to the (all-caps) "ACK" frame. > @@ -216,23 +215,22 @@ implemented in QUIC. An unacknowledged packet is marked as lost when an acknowledgment is received for a packet that was sent a threshold number of packets (kReorderingThreshold) -after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the ack indicates that a later -packet was received, while kReorderingThreshold provides some tolerance for -reordering of packets in the network. - -The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3. - -We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} -{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of -reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious -losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded +and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the +ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold Comma splice; I'd either re-add the conjunction ("while" seemed fine) or replace the comma with a semicolon. > -reordering of packets in the network. - -The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3. - -We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} -{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of -reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious -losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded +and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the +ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold +provides some tolerance for reordering of packets in the network. + +The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3, based on +TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}. Some networks may exhibit higher +degrees of reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting +spurious losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded Perhaps it's simply a transport term of art, but talking about "detecting spurious losses" has the wrong connotation to me. When we say that you've detected a spurious retransmission, it means you realized that retransmission was actually unnecessary; detecting spurious losses kind of feels like realizing a packet you thought was lost actually wasn't. I know you're actually trying to talk about the initial incorrect conclusion, not the later realization it was incorrect. Maybe it would be clearer to say that highly reordering networks "caus[e] a sender to incorrectly mark packets as lost. Incorrect loss detection leads to...."? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1551#pullrequestreview-136704033 ----==_mimepart_5b4774c99f17e_441e3f8710336f7c939be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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One comment throughout -- the use of lowercase "ack" reads oddly to me. Is that typical of TCP docs? I'd tend to either spell out "acknowledge[ment]" or refer to the (all-caps) "ACK" frame.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -216,23 +215,22 @@ implemented in QUIC.
 
 An unacknowledged packet is marked as lost when an acknowledgment is received
 for a packet that was sent a threshold number of packets (kReorderingThreshold)
-after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the ack indicates that a later
-packet was received, while kReorderingThreshold provides some tolerance for
-reordering of packets in the network.
-
-The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3.
-
-We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
-{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
-reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
-losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
+and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the
+ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold

Comma splice; I'd either re-add the conjunction ("while" seemed fine) or replace the comma with a semicolon.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -reordering of packets in the network.
-
-The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3.
-
-We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
-{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
-reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
-losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
+and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the
+ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold
+provides some tolerance for reordering of packets in the network.
+
+The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3, based on 
+TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}. Some networks may exhibit higher
+degrees of reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting
+spurious losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded

Perhaps it's simply a transport term of art, but talking about "detecting spurious losses" has the wrong connotation to me. When we say that you've detected a spurious retransmission, it means you realized that retransmission was actually unnecessary; detecting spurious losses kind of feels like realizing a packet you thought was lost actually wasn't.

I know you're actually trying to talk about the initial incorrect conclusion, not the later realization it was incorrect. Maybe it would be clearer to say that highly reordering networks "caus[e] a sender to incorrectly mark packets as lost. Incorrect loss detection leads to...."?

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Jana and I discussed this today at lunch and we think the best approach = is for the sender to communicate a value for the max number of retransmitta= ble packets or bytes received before sending an immediate ack.

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----==_mimepart_5b4790e82d59b_29cf3fe71522af88801c8-- From nobody Thu Jul 12 10:43:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5847B12F295 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oP5hGDQNH4qu for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1FEC130E41 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:43:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531417385; bh=j7MambZYQ5+9DYlrxGnIMQdze5SmHerwQRI0AmWa4Y8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IKW9yS507JeccfmMEu25P9UGubuLCUDQ19b0yf5smfTOdE4Oj2vRnq9/02pfpInST Hwic5rGyF0IsLGtR/ss/RMBwM/3gr1r28sPAwjZK2DL/4SYND3OXKi1pKReF0s8BlK v1pn+hH+ldDfxC8IwBOHQvZCuLlbGwLbpqSUQr/Q= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When the sender is using standard Reno congestion control, ack every ~2 packets (#1428) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b479329bafe2_7d2e3fcdab370f8811676c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:43:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b479329bafe2_7d2e3fcdab370f8811676c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bytes seem more future proof -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1428#issuecomment-404592862 ----==_mimepart_5b479329bafe2_7d2e3fcdab370f8811676c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

bytes seem more future proof

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Looks good, some small suggestions. > @@ -4722,6 +4719,37 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against the original to be successful in this attack. Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}). +## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle} + +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can cause +any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of producing the +token to be destroyed. This creates a possible denial of service attack on nit: destroyed? Closed? Reset? > +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can cause +any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of producing the +token to be destroyed. This creates a possible denial of service attack on +existing connections if the attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to +be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID. That is, an attack +is possible if an attacker can alter packet routing so that a packet is received +by an instance that uses the same stateless reset key, but no connection state +for the connection ID. + +The only viable defense against this style of denial of service is to ensure +that routing configuration for a cluster guarantees consistent routing of +packets for a given connection ID. That is, the routing needs to ensure that a +stateless reset is not generated unless the associated connection (as identified +by the connection ID) cannot proceed. + +For endpoints that operate in clusters, instances that share a static key for This paragraph is largely an easier to read version of the paragraph that precedes it. Can you combine them? Maybe: "To defend against this style of denial of service attack, endpoints in clusters that share a static stateless reset key (see {{reset-token}}) MUST be arranged..." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Looks good, some small suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4722,6 +4719,37 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against
 the original to be successful in this attack.  Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore
 ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}).
 
+## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle}
+
+An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can cause
+any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of producing the
+token to be destroyed.  This creates a possible denial of service attack on

nit: destroyed? Closed? Reset?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can cause
+any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of producing the
+token to be destroyed.  This creates a possible denial of service attack on
+existing connections if the attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to
+be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID.  That is, an attack
+is possible if an attacker can alter packet routing so that a packet is received
+by an instance that uses the same stateless reset key, but no connection state
+for the connection ID.
+
+The only viable defense against this style of denial of service is to ensure
+that routing configuration for a cluster guarantees consistent routing of
+packets for a given connection ID.  That is, the routing needs to ensure that a
+stateless reset is not generated unless the associated connection (as identified
+by the connection ID) cannot proceed.
+
+For endpoints that operate in clusters, instances that share a static key for

This paragraph is largely an easier to read version of the paragraph that precedes it. Can you combine them? Maybe:

"To defend against this style of denial of service attack, endpoints in clusters that share a static stateless reset key (see {{reset-token}}) MUST be arranged..."

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Adding an exception to the ECN detection to handle ACK loss if that occurs.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1555

Commit Summary

  • Merge tag 'draft-ietf-quic-transport-13' of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts into ecn-ack-loss
  • Adding exception due to ack loss.

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I have drafted an initial text to resolve this. See PR #1555. I took the simpler way out that if one detects ACK loss one simple skip to do the counter comparisons. That should be less error prone and is something that should happen very seldom.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1738,6 +1738,14 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
+  
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than the 
+  number of newly ACKed packets, and received ACK's smallest acknowledged or

I would just say "ACK's smallest acknowledged" and drop "or gap indicated packet number"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1738,6 +1738,14 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
+  
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than the 
+  number of newly ACKed packets, and received ACK's smallest acknowledged or 
+  gap indicated packet number is larger than previously largest acknowledged

How about: "...larger than the previous largest acknowledged, then it's likely acknowledgements were missed, and the above comparison MUST NOT be performed."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1738,6 +1738,14 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
+  
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than the 
+  number of newly ACKed packets, and received ACK's smallest acknowledged or 
+  gap indicated packet number is larger than previously largest acknowledged

Implemented

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1738,6 +1738,14 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
+  
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than the 
+  number of newly ACKed packets, and received ACK's smallest acknowledged or

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The obvious point against "must not" is that it is not enforceable. Su= ppose that a box sometimes sends retry after receiving a 0-RTT packet. Th= e receiver does not know whether this was sent in response to Initial, or= whether Initial was lost and this was sent in response to 0-RTT.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1775,9 +1775,9 @@ use the server to send more data toward the victim than it would be able to send
 on its own.
 
 Several methods are used in QUIC to mitigate this attack.  Firstly, the initial
-handshake packet is padded to at least 1200 octets.  This allows a server to
-send a similar amount of data without risking causing an amplification attack
-toward an unproven remote address.
+handshake packet is sent in a UDP datagram that contains at least 1200 octets of
+payload.  This allows a server to send a similar amount of data without risking
+causing an amplification attack toward an unproven remote address.

1200 octets of UDP payload?

I know this is implicit, but we also use payload to refer to the part of a QUIC packet that follows the header.

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It is way simpler to send the client initial as is, and the 0-RTT data= in a follow-up packet. If the implementation can predict that a 0-RTT wi= ll follow, it can refrain from padding the Initial packet, and make sure = that the coalesced 0-RTT packet extends to the specified limit. Doable, e= ven if not entirely natural.

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@kazuho can you expand a bit the argument about "the changes to the TLS handshake transcript"? Are you concerned about reusing the TLS code as is, or about not invalidating the results of the TLS1.3 correctness proofs?

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----==_mimepart_5b47edcfab84d_43e42ac0b897af60984e7-- From nobody Thu Jul 12 17:11:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50F5131228 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:11:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xjLliZdyzIFb for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0B9D131223 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:11:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531440712; bh=HWPHtROY0v+MyUH+QQvD0vFEryjF0rzoyu0RAKeU1gY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RiOAsy8We8RzH8ywxij4hj7f5wlnKBWtY+vqAcWezkCsHqVhb3X7OfqIwTAU6b8nI YUdjv/WE8XBUpMvLDlabLRQc/Rn2fn04TujbOXern3Xi9jI9S9jecKKtQnXnZioUvH fhxnHGDmTNZD6BnvI5MRcn/zehdAhQFUzYMoN7eU= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless reset oracle defense (#1554) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b47ee484890d_18a53f86a0fdef881198e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 00:11:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b47ee484890d_18a53f86a0fdef881198e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > +packets for a given connection ID. That is, the routing needs to ensure that a +stateless reset is not generated unless the associated connection (as identified +by the connection ID) cannot proceed. + +For endpoints that operate in clusters, instances that share a static key for +stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST be arranged so that packets with a +given connection ID always arrive at an instance that has connection state, +unless that connection is no longer active. + +In the case of a cluster that uses dynamic load balancing, it's possible that a +change in load balancer configuration could happen while an active instance +retains connection state; even if an instance retains connection state, the +change in routing and resulting stateless reset will result in the connection +being terminated. This is acceptable as long as the loss of connections during +rebalancing is by design and not something that an external entity can +influence. I am not sure how the last sentence applies to the discussion in the paragraph. If I understand correctly, the intent of the paragraph is to state that if there is no chance in the packet being routed to the correct server, it is logical to send a stateless reset rather than waiting for timeout. That is logical. However, the last sentence talks about frequency of rebalancing, which IMO is unrelated to whether if we send a reset or wait for timeout. It seems to me that it might be a better idea to state here that, by using the rebalancing as an example, that sending stateless reset is preferable than waiting for timeout, and move the discussion about the frequency of rebalancing to somewhere else, since it is not an issue specific to QUIC having authenticated resets (TCP sharding using 5-tuple has the same issue). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1554#pullrequestreview-136871375 ----==_mimepart_5b47ee484890d_18a53f86a0fdef881198e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +packets for a given connection ID.  That is, the routing needs to ensure that a
+stateless reset is not generated unless the associated connection (as identified
+by the connection ID) cannot proceed.
+
+For endpoints that operate in clusters, instances that share a static key for
+stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST be arranged so that packets with a
+given connection ID always arrive at an instance that has connection state,
+unless that connection is no longer active.
+
+In the case of a cluster that uses dynamic load balancing, it's possible that a
+change in load balancer configuration could happen while an active instance
+retains connection state; even if an instance retains connection state, the
+change in routing and resulting stateless reset will result in the connection
+being terminated.  This is acceptable as long as the loss of connections during
+rebalancing is by design and not something that an external entity can
+influence.

I am not sure how the last sentence applies to the discussion in the paragraph.

If I understand correctly, the intent of the paragraph is to state that if there is no chance in the packet being routed to the correct server, it is logical to send a stateless reset rather than waiting for timeout. That is logical. However, the last sentence talks about frequency of rebalancing, which IMO is unrelated to whether if we send a reset or wait for timeout.

It seems to me that it might be a better idea to state here that, by using the rebalancing as an example, that sending stateless reset is preferable than waiting for timeout, and move the discussion about the frequency of rebalancing to somewhere else, since it is not an issue specific to QUIC having authenticated resets (TCP sharding using 5-tuple has the same issue).

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@huitema The latter.

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It is way simpler to send the client initial as is, and the 0-RTT data= in a follow-up packet. If the implementation can predict that a 0-RTT wi= ll follow, it can refrain from padding the Initial packet, and make sure = that the coalesced 0-RTT packet extends to the specified limit. Doable, e= ven if not entirely natural.

FWIW, you have the freedom to pad the 0-RTT packet of a coalesced data= gram instead. IMO that is the natural way to combine Initial and 0-RTT in= to a single datagram.

What picotls does when both 0-RTT key is available is:

  • construct Initial packet without padding
  • construct 0-RTT packet coalesced to the Initial
  • pad the 0-RTT packet if the datagram is going to be to small

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Yes, the issue is that it not just the 0-RTT key -- it also depends on having 0-RTT data available. But I guess that if there are no 0-RTT data available, on can just send a 0-RTT packet full of pads...

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1739,6 +1739,13 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
 
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than the
+  number of newly ACKed packets, and received ACK's smallest acknowledged is

ACKed -> acknowledged
received -> the received

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comaparisions ?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1739,12 +1739,14 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
 
-* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than the
-  number of newly ACKed packets, and received ACK's smallest acknowledged is
-  larger than the previous largest acknowledged, then it's likely
-  acknowledgements were missed, and the above comparison MUST NOT be
-  performed. Instead a new comparision point is stored by the sender so that
-  only changes after this point will be used in the future comaparisions.
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than
+  the number of newly acknowledged packets, and the received ACK's
+  smallest acknowledged is larger than the previous largest acknowledged,
+  then it's likely acknowledgements were missed, and the above comparison
+  MUST NOT be performed. Instead a new comparision point is stored by the
+  sender so that only changes after this point will be used in the future
+  comaparisions.

Mikkel's right, comaparisons -> comparisons

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The current draft says:

The payload of a SETTINGS frame consists of zero or more parameters,
each consisting of an unsigned 16-bit setting identifier and a
length-prefixed binary value.

This leaves the encoding of the setting content to the implementor and may be cause of ambiguity.
I believe we should define the encoding more explicitly for each setting, e.g.
is SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS encoded as a fixed-length 4 or 2 (given its maximum value) bytes integer, or perhaps it can also be variable-length, e.g. can the value be encoded in just 1 byte if less than 256 ?

Also, do we expect arbitrarily large setting contents ?
Implementors would likely enforce some sensible maximum values whenever the length is encoded as a quic-integer, do you think there is value in the RFC suggesting these maximum values ?
This is probably a larger scope question, but in the settings frame seems more prominent

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -594,7 +594,9 @@ of subsequent packets that it sends.
 A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
 acknowledged by a client.
 
-A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+A server MUST NOT send a Retry in response to packets other than Initial
+or 0-RTT packets.  A server MAY discard 0-RTT packets and only send Retry in
+response to Initial packets.

Yes, that it better. Thanks.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1739,6 +1739,14 @@ network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 * The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
   of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
 
+* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than
+  the number of newly acknowledged packets, and the received ACK's
+  smallest acknowledged is larger than the previous largest acknowledged,

As I pointed out, this isn't ideal and will lead to ECN being disabled in some cases. I don't know how much we are going to want to worry about that though.

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Add a separate definitions section, similar to the transport doc.

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In the section on stop sending we say

Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.

However a client may have sent a RST before the server sent stop sending. In addition the client may have also sent a http request canceled error code which indicates that it is not interested the response.

It seems like the MUST seems harsh here and it could be a SHOULD with exceptions

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This should be fixed by #1517 and #1540

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1383 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1559 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove alarm -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (172) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1559.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1559.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Fixes #1383

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  • Remove alarm

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Jana and I were discussing this, and I believe we should update the TLP calculation to assume an immediate ack(similar to TCP assuming immediate acks for every two packets) if more than the specified number of bytes are in flight.

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Slightly clarify the extent of the AAD.

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Clarify the full extent of what is covered by the AAD

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Fixes #740

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Clarify the full extent of what is covered by the AAD

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  • Clarify the extent of the AAD

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In fact they may be more confusing than useful (sender of acks, for instance) > The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}} when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. +Definitions of terms that are used in this document: + +Sender: + +: The endpoint sending QUIC packets. + +Receiver: + +: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in + response. + +ACK-only: I think this includes PADDING. Also, you'll want to fix all uses in the doc (ack-only, ack only) > The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}} when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. +Definitions of terms that are used in this document: + +Sender: + +: The endpoint sending QUIC packets. + +Receiver: + +: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in + response. + +ACK-only: + +: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this + document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames. This second sentence doesn't seem to fit in this definition. I would separate it out into a new definition for now. > +: The endpoint sending QUIC packets. + +Receiver: + +: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in + response. + +ACK-only: + +: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this + document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames. + +In-flight: + +: Packets are considered in-flight because they have been sent + and neither acknowledged or considered lost, and they are not s/or/nor/ > + +: The endpoint sending QUIC packets. + +Receiver: + +: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in + response. + +ACK-only: + +: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this + document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames. + +In-flight: + +: Packets are considered in-flight because they have been sent s/because/when/ > + +ACK-only: + +: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
+
+Sender:
+
+: The endpoint sending QUIC packets.
+
+Receiver:
+
+: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in
+  response.
+

I don't think we need the above ones. In fact they may be more confusing than useful (sender of acks, for instance)

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
+
+Sender:
+
+: The endpoint sending QUIC packets.
+
+Receiver:
+
+: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in
+  response.
+
+ACK-only:

I think this includes PADDING. Also, you'll want to fix all uses in the doc (ack-only, ack only)

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
+
+Sender:
+
+: The endpoint sending QUIC packets.
+
+Receiver:
+
+: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in
+  response.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this
+  document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames.

This second sentence doesn't seem to fit in this definition. I would separate it out into a new definition for now.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +: The endpoint sending QUIC packets.
+
+Receiver:
+
+: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in
+  response.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this
+  document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames.
+
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight because they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or considered lost, and they are not

s/or/nor/

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+: The endpoint sending QUIC packets.
+
+Receiver:
+
+: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in
+  response.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this
+  document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames.
+
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight because they have been sent

s/because/when/

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this
+  document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames.
+
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight because they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or considered lost, and they are not
+  ACK-only.
+
+Retransmittable:
+
+: Packets that contain frames besides ACK, ACK_ECN, or PADDING elicit
+  an ACK from the receiver and are called retransmittable.

I think you should define retransmittable frames, and packets containing a retransmittable frame as a retransmittable packet.

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If no previous RTT is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 100ms. -When CRYPTO frames are sent, the sender SHOULD set an alarm for the handshake -timeout period. When the alarm fires, the sender MUST retransmit all -unacknowledged CRYPTO data by calling RetransmitAllUnackedHandshakeData(). On -each consecutive firing of the handshake alarm without receiving an +When CRYPTO frames are sent, the sender SHOULD set a timer for the handshake +timeout period. Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged +CRYPTO data by calling RetransmitAllUnackedHandshakeData(). On each +consecutive firing of the handshake timer without receiving an s/firing/expiration/ > @@ -350,51 +350,51 @@ regardless of the number of packets outstanding. TCP's TLP assumes if at least A PTO value of at least 1.5*SRTT ensures that the ACK is overdue. The 1.5 is based on {{?TLP}}, but implementations MAY experiment with other constants. -To reduce latency, it is RECOMMENDED that the sender set and allow the TLP alarm -to fire twice before setting an RTO alarm. In other words, when the TLP alarm +To reduce latency, it is RECOMMENDED that the sender set and allow the TLP timer +to fire twice before setting an RTO timer. In other words, when the TLP timer fires the first time, a TLP packet is sent, and it is RECOMMENDED that the TLP you should just do s/fires/expires/ through the doc > detection. The algorithm used in QUIC is based on the RTO algorithm for TCP {{?RFC5681}} and is additionally resilient to spurious RTO events {{?RFC5682}}. -When the last TLP packet is sent, an alarm is scheduled for the RTO period. When -this alarm fires, the sender sends two packets, to evoke acknowledgements from -the receiver, and restarts the RTO alarm. +When the last TLP packet is sent, a timer is scheduled for the RTO period. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -111,8 +111,8 @@ of frames contained in a packet affect recovery and congestion control logic:
   to as "retransmittable" below.
 
 * Long header packets that contain CRYPTO frames are critical to the
-  performance of the QUIC handshake and use shorter timers for acknowledgement
-  and retransmission.
+  performance of the QUIC handshake and use shorter timeouts for

undo this change -- shorter timeouts not timers.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -295,18 +295,18 @@ smoothed RTT value as the resumed connection's initial RTT.
 If no previous RTT is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT
 SHOULD be set to 100ms.
 
-When CRYPTO frames are sent, the sender SHOULD set an alarm for the handshake
-timeout period.  When the alarm fires, the sender MUST retransmit all
-unacknowledged CRYPTO data by calling RetransmitAllUnackedHandshakeData(). On
-each consecutive firing of the handshake alarm without receiving an
+When CRYPTO frames are sent, the sender SHOULD set a timer for the handshake
+timeout period.  Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged
+CRYPTO data by calling RetransmitAllUnackedHandshakeData(). On each
+consecutive firing of the handshake timer without receiving an

s/firing/expiration/

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -350,51 +350,51 @@ regardless of the number of packets outstanding.  TCP's TLP assumes if at least
 A PTO value of at least 1.5*SRTT ensures that the ACK is overdue.  The 1.5 is
 based on {{?TLP}}, but implementations MAY experiment with other constants.
 
-To reduce latency, it is RECOMMENDED that the sender set and allow the TLP alarm
-to fire twice before setting an RTO alarm. In other words, when the TLP alarm
+To reduce latency, it is RECOMMENDED that the sender set and allow the TLP timer
+to fire twice before setting an RTO timer. In other words, when the TLP timer
 fires the first time, a TLP packet is sent, and it is RECOMMENDED that the TLP

you should just do s/fires/expires/ through the doc

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  detection. The algorithm used in QUIC is based on the RTO algorithm for TCP
 {{?RFC5681}} and is additionally resilient to spurious RTO events {{?RFC5682}}.
 
-When the last TLP packet is sent, an alarm is scheduled for the RTO period. When
-this alarm fires, the sender sends two packets, to evoke acknowledgements from
-the receiver, and restarts the RTO alarm.
+When the last TLP packet is sent, a timer is scheduled for the RTO period. When

s/a timer is scheduled/a timer is set/

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>        if (smoothed_rtt == 0):
-        alarm_duration = 2 * kInitialRtt
+        timer_duration = 2 * kInitialRtt

s/timer_duration/timeout/

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +: The endpoint sending QUIC packets.
+
+Receiver:
+
+: The endpoint receiving QUIC packets and sending acknowledgements in
+  response.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. The rest of this
+  document uses "ACK frames" to refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames.
+
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight because they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or considered lost, and they are not

Hmm, I think it's or. But I changed considered to declared.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1148,6 +1148,23 @@ retransmission timeout has been verified.
      congestion_window = kMinimumWindow
 ~~~
 
+# Security Considerations
+
+## Local Denial of Service
+
+QUIC requires congestion control, and recommends Reno. Not using a
+congestion control algorithm or using an overly aggressive
+algorithm may cause flows sharing the same link to experience
+excess delay, packet loss, and timeouts.

I don't think we need this one. I'll add a paragraph that says something about congestion control being required and Reno being the one that we describe in this doc, and point to 8085 for the rest.

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boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4a42e62ef58_1f2a2b07f03b7c0c94c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 18:37:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4a42e62ef58_1f2a2b07f03b7c0c94c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-rfc6928 Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 53e200615cad84efb222db66b4e2e48fc9ca0397 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/53e200615cad84efb222db66b4e2e48fc9ca0397 Author: ianswett Date: 2017-10-01 (Sun, 01 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Retransmit stream data, not stream frames Commit: 503027d10b59d73808014672657e3b2bfb8cf595 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/503027d10b59d73808014672657e3b2bfb8cf595 Author: EKR Date: 2018-03-18 (Sun, 18 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- As written, this would forbid the case where A sends a single stream frame and then B responds with three stream frames and piggybacks ACKs along with each. That seems silly and a lot of work. Rather, this should just be about ACK-only frames. Commit: 32f3bd9c4c5f7cbec074538350ebe52ead81e2d5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/32f3bd9c4c5f7cbec074538350ebe52ead81e2d5 Author: EKR Date: 2018-03-19 (Mon, 19 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rephrase the text about one-way sending Commit: 0359cc729efc4575fda5c918c12b011e2c4ac94b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0359cc729efc4575fda5c918c12b011e2c4ac94b Author: EKR Date: 2018-03-19 (Mon, 19 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update per comments Commit: 9d3484ba10426e1a9c931ee56f7d220f272ccc50 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d3484ba10426e1a9c931ee56f7d220f272ccc50 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-03-22 (Thu, 22 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Only pace retransmittable packets (#1222) * Only pace retransmittable packets * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Jana's suggestion. 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Is true only with the restriction of migration to client addresses. It complicates the server migration story if we ever want to do that (as we already have with the proposal for preferred addresses). 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Closes #1266. 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Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-04-12 (Thu, 12 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- packet-coalesce Commit: 4136e40858f60b6f497e36ca7202634649e0cb8a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4136e40858f60b6f497e36ca7202634649e0cb8a Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-04-12 (Thu, 12 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- more coalesce Commit: 3e0c70e22ca7fdb5914c5cfee71d0362dd245a87 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e0c70e22ca7fdb5914c5cfee71d0362dd245a87 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-13 (Fri, 13 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1285 from quicwg/pr1262-followup Some editorial cleanup for #1262 Commit: f6bbeb9305167131f03e1d10a058de15ec854e02 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f6bbeb9305167131f03e1d10a058de15ec854e02 Author: Brian Trammell Date: 2018-04-13 (Fri, 13 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M 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Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2018-04-13 (Fri, 13 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Swap the payload length and packet number fields in the long header Commit: cdd7aebf4211729d40e6b255fdc7b8530a7eaee6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cdd7aebf4211729d40e6b255fdc7b8530a7eaee6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-16 (Mon, 16 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1294 from huitema/swap-payload-length Swap payload length Commit: 8af26adfbad5df4f5af013516411380fdfb69aac https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8af26adfbad5df4f5af013516411380fdfb69aac Author: Brian Trammell Date: 2018-04-17 (Tue, 17 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md Log Message: ----------- wrong bit in text Commit: 8821bee05da7a9e5a63f6cc8197b706917ced326 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8821bee05da7a9e5a63f6cc8197b706917ced326 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-17 (Tue, 17 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M Makefile M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md A tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Changelog for -11 (#1291) * Changelogs for -11 release * Add a tagging script * Expand help * Added more to changelogs * added to changelogs for -11 Commit: 24b07f767326fbf0cca87d74b6eeddf615a7b93e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/24b07f767326fbf0cca87d74b6eeddf615a7b93e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-04-17 (Tue, 17 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Fixes to tag.sh Commit: 45940988930b155a64c9ebe925c2750b6a6c2a3a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/45940988930b155a64c9ebe925c2750b6a6c2a3a Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-04-17 (Tue, 17 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Fixing tag.sh again Commit: 4c84a5f97620b0a6747b9d41ee005a92a7b17240 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4c84a5f97620b0a6747b9d41ee005a92a7b17240 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-04-19 (Thu, 19 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix things that make ID-Nits hiccup Commit: 48e0ce704d9d76d112534e9c87571ab5cb0a8b69 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48e0ce704d9d76d112534e9c87571ab5cb0a8b69 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-04-20 (Fri, 20 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove awkward sentence (#1313) Fixes #1311 Commit: e7420bb82104a41633c78704dd78c8a5434c8068 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e7420bb82104a41633c78704dd78c8a5434c8068 Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2018-04-23 (Mon, 23 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix typo Commit: 312f4f156bd64568ef3232172f97d2cd32c8e0a5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/312f4f156bd64568ef3232172f97d2cd32c8e0a5 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-04-23 (Mon, 23 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Separate instruction sets for QCRAM (#1141) * Separate instruction sets * Martin's feedback * Opcodes without sentinel values * Non-byte-aligned string literals * Actually use prefix terminology * Martin's feedback * Table size change * Less prescriptive * No sentinels on request streams either * +++ * Alan's feedback * HEADER_ACK isn't a stream (yet) * Heading level * Get with the rename Commit: 87422f0cef000c000c18de082876f505fb7a0f1b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/87422f0cef000c000c18de082876f505fb7a0f1b Author: Patrick McManus Date: 2018-04-24 (Tue, 24 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix wording that said only long header packets could be coalesced Commit: c33d7283e43a73d19eb09f9cbf854deb05671d45 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c33d7283e43a73d19eb09f9cbf854deb05671d45 Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2018-04-24 (Tue, 24 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- remove incorrect statement about the connection ID in server packet (#1316) Commit: 78c25bbe853751755403a53f216c729cb08ee35b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/78c25bbe853751755403a53f216c729cb08ee35b Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2018-04-24 (Tue, 24 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix stateless reset short header packet type (#1315) * fix stateless reset short header packet type * Mike's review Commit: 4b7620335b77fe9d4befcd02f2a7ab8bc8b53a69 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b7620335b77fe9d4befcd02f2a7ab8bc8b53a69 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-04-24 (Tue, 24 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- s/initial_max_stream_id_(uni|bidi)/initial_max_streams_$1/g (#1310) * s/initial_max_stream_id_(uni|bidi)/initial_max_streams_$1/g Fix the naming of initial maximum number of streams transport parameters: these are not IDs, but rather counts. * Mike's comment Commit: 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I know that we discussed removing short packet types in favor of putting the lengths under encryption. I will do that separately, just to keep the size of this changeset to something more manageable. Commit: 41196efd08bd194cba92678ec06cc8bc06914965 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/41196efd08bd194cba92678ec06cc8bc06914965 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Constant time This is pretty onerous, so I'd like to see if people think that this is acceptable. The cost is that all packets need to have their AEAD run the whole way through. The gain is that there will be no side-channels for attackers to exploit. 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Commit: f163e2ab2fbd7064a01e76a06b999f80a11b5c9b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f163e2ab2fbd7064a01e76a06b999f80a11b5c9b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Revert unnecessary change Commit: d6d9837d685d3de4d035a78fa7c99bc03e99e8ba https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6d9837d685d3de4d035a78fa7c99bc03e99e8ba Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Restore some of the endpoint-agnosticism that got lost in rebasing Commit: a1c4d41f7110eedb5536bab02b1d927cc01b68c8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a1c4d41f7110eedb5536bab02b1d927cc01b68c8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Grammar boobo Commit: 38d5b8380e7c1c4bb43732fa1ead3eddac28bb39 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/38d5b8380e7c1c4bb43732fa1ead3eddac28bb39 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- THE end Commit: 78ff2db3d644edf77d3b1b099eb64eb8979ee806 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/78ff2db3d644edf77d3b1b099eb64eb8979ee806 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1324 from mcmanus/coalesce-nit fix wording that said only long header packets could be coalesced Commit: c46f52e1b42be4b10a5d2e6f4db5a7b5feb8d2e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c46f52e1b42be4b10a5d2e6f4db5a7b5feb8d2e2 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Deemphasize TCP SACKs reference in ACK frame description (#1312) * Deemphasize TCP SACKs reference in ACK frame description It is odd to describe something by saying what is *not* like. In addition, not all readers of the document will be familiar with TCP SACKs. * Improve the irrevokable ACK frame paragraph; add SACK RFC ref Commit: e34cdafd18b4fa3d69c9c47d3df7fe4d15919cc7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e34cdafd18b4fa3d69c9c47d3df7fe4d15919cc7 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-04-25 (Wed, 25 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Retransmit data, not packets (#1327) Commit: eca6a1e049bbee6eef8e5cfc6ca9dcb0374116d0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eca6a1e049bbee6eef8e5cfc6ca9dcb0374116d0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Push the tag too Commit: 07bcb040af879ce1651e4e5ab8a374f380c351b3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/07bcb040af879ce1651e4e5ab8a374f380c351b3 Author: Brian Trammell Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- add link to spin-exp to README.md Commit: 3824040e5cb80bb0eef6ce4de5fc6a2476f6bec4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3824040e5cb80bb0eef6ce4de5fc6a2476f6bec4 Author: Brian Trammell Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1295 from britram/oops-wrong-spin-exp-bit Fix wrong spin bit in spin-exp text Commit: a716cbbfa440a9297337d8338ff7327eebce6f52 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a716cbbfa440a9297337d8338ff7327eebce6f52 Author: Mark Nottingham Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1329 from britram/readme-spin-exp add link to spin-exp to README.md Commit: de99d43f3af5c4ed0f8ca27bd3820cf69b52bfba https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de99d43f3af5c4ed0f8ca27bd3820cf69b52bfba Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Better Indexing in QPACK (#1314) * Better Indexing * BLOCKING was in HTTP, too. * Less clunky * Match language used elsewhere * Fix index in drawing * Alan's feedback * Example * Another example + duplicate on relative Commit: 7683b3dcf359c0bb14a9c6d89fbca8e92f2c9635 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7683b3dcf359c0bb14a9c6d89fbca8e92f2c9635 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- QPACK One-Pass Encoding, Redux (#1320) * QPACK single pass encoding 1. Changes the header block prefix and removes the BLOCKING flag 2. Re-uses table modification code points on request streams for "above base" indexing 3. Include a sample 1-pass encoding algorithm Fixes #1138 * Collapse post-base instructions into existing sections * Alan's feedback Commit: b7855fdb571f193075ffd01424ca106a8a79edd2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b7855fdb571f193075ffd01424ca106a8a79edd2 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-04-26 (Thu, 26 Apr 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- QPACK: remove explanation about header block diffs Explaining this here only makes it harder to understand the design of QPACK. This sort things would belong in a rationale document if we had one. 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Commit: 0cb4b25e2270015d9b2d1195413b9bd763b126fe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0cb4b25e2270015d9b2d1195413b9bd763b126fe Author: martinduke Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Stateless Reset Cleanup The Stateless Reset is just a bunch of random bytes except the first one and the token, so I simplified the spec to reflect that. Commit: 70b9cff18c2ff040ece204c32a0dc38fc5a18e47 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/70b9cff18c2ff040ece204c32a0dc38fc5a18e47 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Improved logical ordering of paragraphs. Commit: 93f567c13e6a8ba4a7723efbbe9cc679f15b1d71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/93f567c13e6a8ba4a7723efbbe9cc679f15b1d71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Polishing PR#1328 Commit: c93425781271f7173a5d0eee999d550b58868651 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c93425781271f7173a5d0eee999d550b58868651 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- wip Commit: 5ebb357480039e21bfb1fe57b03a524bf669bf30 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5ebb357480039e21bfb1fe57b03a524bf669bf30 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Make stateless reset symmetric Closes #466. Commit: e92d76ce7cbd3053b6ae7da3cc06011a58e34f52 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e92d76ce7cbd3053b6ae7da3cc06011a58e34f52 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- DoS considerations for stateless reset Commit: 5266bccaeb118d006a332ce4a1d1111172c4f334 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5266bccaeb118d006a332ce4a1d1111172c4f334 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Require coextant connection IDs and stateless reset keys Otherwise, there is a DoS risk. Commit: f125a502689429e69d4a52f4ed9c9c18b185b06f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f125a502689429e69d4a52f4ed9c9c18b185b06f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-10 (Thu, 10 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Write down spoofed packet guarantees We agreed to this a while back, but never got around to putting the conclusions in the document. We've done some of the work by writing down the rules for use of CONNECTION_CLOSE and TLS alerts, and the related changes, but the basic principles never got articulated. This attempts to outline what we do to authenticate packets that we receive. * Once the handshake is done, it's mostly simple: if the AEAD fails, drop it. * We have a small carve-out for some types of ICMP, with some strong limitations on what that information can be used for. @igorlord might expand the PMTU usage to cover DestUnreach, but these uses permit a very narrow range of actions. * We also have stateless reset, which is another snowflake. * The bulk of the text here concerns the handshake. I've covered the two mechanisms we tie into the use of connection IDs: ** Echoing the value (the only protection we have for Version Negotiation, for instance). ** The AEAD that uses the connection ID as input. And then it explains that our only defense against an on-path attacker is to fail to establish a connection. I think that covers all the necessary points. Closes #645. 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Vulnerable * Re-add lost definition * blocking => blocked * ack'd * Martin's feedback * Adapting Martin's text * Martin's rewords * Describe unblocking Commit: c44f01243a4702fb6b69b548b05c9fe88271905c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c44f01243a4702fb6b69b548b05c9fe88271905c Author: afrind Date: 2018-05-15 (Tue, 15 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Move QPACK control instructions to dedicated streams (#1238) * Move QPACK control instructions to dedicated streams 1. Give QPACK encoders and decoders their own unidirectional streams (hardcoded to 6,7,10,11 for now) 2. Define simple framing for encoder stream 3. Move HEADER_ACK from HTTP over QUIC frame to QPACK instruction 4. Introduce Table State Synchronize instruction Closes #1121 and #1122 * +----+ => ----- * Fix Header Ack bit pattern, describe wire format using text Commit: 04eb8c6704bc54eeea159e8778447626f56c7ac6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/04eb8c6704bc54eeea159e8778447626f56c7ac6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-15 (Tue, 15 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Octets that are sent twice (#1353) * Octets that are sent twice This is obvious, but never stated. We discussed checking that they stay constant and agreed that requiring a check would be crazy. However, we never wrote anything down. I think that a MAY is fine. * Insist on being able to deliver in order But don't imply an absolute requirement to do so. 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And some fixups on the diagrams. Commit: 072fc1e5d5e23beefd3e22e283f3399141d8332d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/072fc1e5d5e23beefd3e22e283f3399141d8332d Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-05-25 (Fri, 25 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Core concepts for QPACK (#1357) * Core concepts * Re-level sections, Martin's comments * Alan's comments * Blow out table, blow up connection Commit: fc945461c759b99307ca848a13523ce384adf508 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fc945461c759b99307ca848a13523ce384adf508 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-05-28 (Mon, 28 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Added textual description of ECN-CE indicating congestion events. Commit: 66505a3259ef89acf65f88618358fb9568de255f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/66505a3259ef89acf65f88618358fb9568de255f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial fixes Commit: 2ad20ca7f12a7bdcce114b5a540fdd36b6333f5d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ad20ca7f12a7bdcce114b5a540fdd36b6333f5d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove paragraph on short packet type Closes #1390. Commit: 0cdfe026fef92139f6660897d9218a6a10d1ca19 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0cdfe026fef92139f6660897d9218a6a10d1ca19 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Remove either Commit: 8bb1b7b890c75942fcc45b3f2965c65b09b607ea https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8bb1b7b890c75942fcc45b3f2965c65b09b607ea Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1389 from quicwg/issue1387 Make the packet number encryption sampling clearer Commit: 6a3c0b40d74a109b86580955bd914ab91b5b6284 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6a3c0b40d74a109b86580955bd914ab91b5b6284 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Cite QUIC-HTTP correctly, fix bustage Commit: d5250461b6ddb815fd8fd2422d80a2df8ed670a3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d5250461b6ddb815fd8fd2422d80a2df8ed670a3 Author: Magnus Westerlund Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1 from quicwg/ecn Editorial fixes Commit: 28ef4c144069f807f468912e5f62ef529398d2da https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/28ef4c144069f807f468912e5f62ef529398d2da Author: gloinul Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editing some formulations. Rewraping more text Commit: 28e53ae73537003a58ccc504b680df777eb2e301 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/28e53ae73537003a58ccc504b680df777eb2e301 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Key of AES-128 is 16 bytes, not 12 bytes. Commit: ce73ee773dbea8cce673c4c9d22bf2affaaa2e9b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ce73ee773dbea8cce673c4c9d22bf2affaaa2e9b Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-05-29 (Tue, 29 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Add general protocol error Commit: 64ff827f3c19b4dd9f39065e7caf4e43184c03c7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/64ff827f3c19b4dd9f39065e7caf4e43184c03c7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Set TLS extension codepoint to 0xffa5 Closes #1395. Commit: 64697758c1ea45992631fc3fee8e5086ecab0708 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/64697758c1ea45992631fc3fee8e5086ecab0708 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1393 from quicwg/ianswett-retrans-streamframes Retransmit stream data, not stream frames Commit: 22ca878bf03c92a3ad26989a271a4d4ffecb61aa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/22ca878bf03c92a3ad26989a271a4d4ffecb61aa Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1392 from quicwg/issue1390 Remove paragraph on short packet type Commit: b32c58f674c4c93edae869c80e11d7112bac005c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b32c58f674c4c93edae869c80e11d7112bac005c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1396 from kazuho/kazuho/pne-aes-key-len-is-16 fix incorrect AES key length in the example (should be 16, not 12) Commit: d2371dfaa8238bfe38eacc4db7adaedd10c6eceb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d2371dfaa8238bfe38eacc4db7adaedd10c6eceb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1397 from quicwg/you_screwed_up Add general protocol error Commit: 6dd9237e1a1988ce26349d7b306fe3821fbf18a0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6dd9237e1a1988ce26349d7b306fe3821fbf18a0 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixed trailing spaces and remaining line length issues, I hope. Commit: 0bb5bad97e1d13094463938fcefaa8917f23ffb6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0bb5bad97e1d13094463938fcefaa8917f23ffb6 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-05-30 (Wed, 30 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reflowing now saved Commit: 61ae667aacb918fa751da70a7ac9a61b353e7b49 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61ae667aacb918fa751da70a7ac9a61b353e7b49 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-05-31 (Thu, 31 May 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Dynamic table resize doesn't get acknowledged Closes #1365. Commit: ca856fa137ac7c769b14a320deefb2ee8019eccf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ca856fa137ac7c769b14a320deefb2ee8019eccf Author: Alessandro Ghedini Date: 2018-06-01 (Fri, 01 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify 'packet protection' -> 'packet number protection' Commit: b1957c863eab196230819b381558bc300769b522 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b1957c863eab196230819b381558bc300769b522 Author: Alessandro Ghedini Date: 2018-06-01 (Fri, 01 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Add missing words Nothing major, just missing a 'the' and a 'on'. Commit: 912dae190fe22d1f8bc07be5a7b0e6d90fc6cae1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/912dae190fe22d1f8bc07be5a7b0e6d90fc6cae1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-02 (Sat, 02 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1406 from ghedo/tls-pn-fixes Clarify 'packet protection' -> 'packet number protection' Commit: ac0672b5751a376699b47ab5d7de04791983752b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac0672b5751a376699b47ab5d7de04791983752b Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-06-01 (Fri, 01 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- qpack: move link to absolute-index to 1st Largest Reference mention Commit: dd83b15aaab55d8dc7190671f7ee2032e3dd342f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dd83b15aaab55d8dc7190671f7ee2032e3dd342f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-04 (Mon, 04 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Seek more clarity on Largest Reference/Base Index encoding (#1403) * Seek more clarify on Largest Reference/Base Index encoding * Tweaks from review * Alan's comments * Include equal to, can't be less than itself Commit: 0f9484765fed14f0c8afd9c4fc889fa1a60f2b33 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f9484765fed14f0c8afd9c4fc889fa1a60f2b33 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-06-04 (Mon, 04 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml M .lint.py M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts into ecn Commit: 8cb0d2086381ce815748793eb61ad79b7c9bf9f0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8cb0d2086381ce815748793eb61ad79b7c9bf9f0 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-04 (Mon, 04 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- What if invariants change? Commit: 1e4492c9480dce3308e890fe66c4f3ab88c0bc78 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e4492c9480dce3308e890fe66c4f3ab88c0bc78 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Which witch? Commit: 3429fcf2095175dd8204ecccc4997c1a9ac453d1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3429fcf2095175dd8204ecccc4997c1a9ac453d1 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Things, properties Commit: 5a4dc49dd7c6845a995d612a025686151d776bd9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5a4dc49dd7c6845a995d612a025686151d776bd9 Author: Sean Turner Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1402 from quicwg/tls-extension-ffa5 Set TLS extension codepoint to 0xffa5 Commit: 065a6e68fbbc5727efc59aa30579367ec14fe802 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/065a6e68fbbc5727efc59aa30579367ec14fe802 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Fix variable-length fields in picture Commit: fd8f3ea08e1d8c7a381f1355edf670f36eba8f08 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd8f3ea08e1d8c7a381f1355edf670f36eba8f08 Author: Lucas Pardue Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Add PUSH_PROMISE xref Commit: 8284fa674aafec2c4da8daf0e3441d4113aa03dc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8284fa674aafec2c4da8daf0e3441d4113aa03dc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrap Commit: 2eee0d82ee9557a79a888dcf4097ce0c8e70ece6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2eee0d82ee9557a79a888dcf4097ce0c8e70ece6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-05 (Tue, 05 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove sequence number from NEW_CONNECTION_ID Closes #1280. Commit: 35e7e7f6c02df3902c7db6f2d1b8b9de0d2d54dc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/35e7e7f6c02df3902c7db6f2d1b8b9de0d2d54dc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-06 (Wed, 06 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Remove Flags (#1398) * Remove Flags * Zero on send, ignored on receipt Commit: 195f144870a810fff9e4e1518f52f779d384ea41 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/195f144870a810fff9e4e1518f52f779d384ea41 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-06 (Wed, 06 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Coalescing guidance Commit: 3a154be781a6a51cd1335fba345bb4a9f35fe2dc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a154be781a6a51cd1335fba345bb4a9f35fe2dc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-07 (Thu, 07 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- HTTP/QUIC specific, not HTTP-specific Fixes #1416 Commit: 0e7d43b0d9175ae3f9f61893008c99d8ad865187 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0e7d43b0d9175ae3f9f61893008c99d8ad865187 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-06-07 (Thu, 07 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts into ecn Commit: 822aded3768e1a1a49a8e9632fe9cc96cbd8fe00 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/822aded3768e1a1a49a8e9632fe9cc96cbd8fe00 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-06-07 (Thu, 07 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Changed so that additional ECN-CE marks are sent in immediate ACKs to avoid unclarity in regards to CE marks and receovery period. Commit: 345f593a92e4455989ada8ff7029e3935f5696d8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/345f593a92e4455989ada8ff7029e3935f5696d8 Author: gloinul Date: 2018-06-07 (Thu, 07 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Fixed lint issues Commit: e77227596318c72d844707655d68bf59dc5c0bfb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e77227596318c72d844707655d68bf59dc5c0bfb Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-08 (Fri, 08 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Include decryption failures Commit: e60cc8fed8dc5b1d5d819b3ae3013715fcbbda5f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e60cc8fed8dc5b1d5d819b3ae3013715fcbbda5f Author: gloinul Date: 2018-06-08 (Fri, 08 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Adding security consideration around ECN into transport. Commit: b62dc737a7f56590d414104bf92122caf7252036 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b62dc737a7f56590d414104bf92122caf7252036 Author: ami-GS <1991.daiki@gmail.com> Date: 2018-06-09 (Sat, 09 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix typo Commit: 0df29f755ec6e1a525d35655b18819f41ce044bd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0df29f755ec6e1a525d35655b18819f41ce044bd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-09 (Sat, 09 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1433 from ami-GS/typo fix typo Commit: ef2caa70addfe0c1fcbe95bcf33322bf2d80c1ad https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef2caa70addfe0c1fcbe95bcf33322bf2d80c1ad Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-09 (Sat, 09 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1419 from quicwg/NCID-seq Remove sequence number from NEW_CONNECTION_ID Commit: 7c2d2495b9fd9f3840118e1fe1ac405cf5742722 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c2d2495b9fd9f3840118e1fe1ac405cf5742722 Author: Daiki AMINAKA <1991.daiki@gmail.com> Date: 2018-06-10 (Sun, 10 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix typo (#1434) Commit: f1be4128b8eb32575cf4c5f1915deed935488f11 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1be4128b8eb32575cf4c5f1915deed935488f11 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-11 (Mon, 11 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Don't cite octet indices any more Also reflow. Closes #1436. 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Also, frames that arrive super late aren't generally all that interesting. 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This may be re-added in a future PR, but isn't part of the minimal set for the stream 0 DT. 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Changed capability check and connection migration text significantly. 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Removed unneeded sentence. 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Fixes #1471 * Swap TSS and Stream Cancellation codepoints This is somewhat superficial, but we're changing it anyways so bear with me. HEADER_ACK and STREAM_CANCEL are almost identical, so code processing them should be next to each other. By swapping TSS and Stream Cancel codepoints, the processing code might be more readable. Commit: e1aa62531825699ae815534096dda6d99a9bf9ae https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1aa62531825699ae815534096dda6d99a9bf9ae Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-06-26 (Tue, 26 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Revert "Remove sequence number from NEW_CONNECTION_ID" This reverts commit 2eee0d82ee9557a79a888dcf4097ce0c8e70ece6. 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Commit: f1d3babd76791b69c22d1b14a0ee6999dcf34200 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1d3babd76791b69c22d1b14a0ee6999dcf34200 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-04 (Wed, 04 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- ~~can~~ Commit: b7234c1a2247ef8c9e72b896b05fca74f16b9e1f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b7234c1a2247ef8c9e72b896b05fca74f16b9e1f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-05 (Thu, 05 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- On send/receive Commit: 39fce3a4bf8413b662e9b7ee70f325c9a8ff37c9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39fce3a4bf8413b662e9b7ee70f325c9a8ff37c9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-05 (Thu, 05 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Use APPLICATION_CLOSE for hq errors Closes #1521. Commit: 5b331bf17560eb5dabf7d8a489a4c2547529d06d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5b331bf17560eb5dabf7d8a489a4c2547529d06d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1519 from quicwg/grease-reserved Grease the reserved bits Commit: f0217bcecd3adbe7d77840966244c4d5d691bbe0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f0217bcecd3adbe7d77840966244c4d5d691bbe0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1500 from quicwg/invariants-convenstions Comment about notational conventions Commit: 74595931bf8f337d71bcef71e7cede0c8f3e74a1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/74595931bf8f337d71bcef71e7cede0c8f3e74a1 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Fix TODO in QPACK Commit: 8d1fb47a29b0dad9c74251d7d9695c2d27106f31 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8d1fb47a29b0dad9c74251d7d9695c2d27106f31 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Frame Type was inconsistently labelled (#1527) Commit: 071c9f1ab60ebfc595bb2b704e350299e6f2fe05 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/071c9f1ab60ebfc595bb2b704e350299e6f2fe05 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Separate APPLICATION_CLOSE from CONNECTION_CLOSE (#1528) The addition of the Frame Type field meant that pointing APPLICATION_CLOSE at CONNECTION_CLOSE was a mistake. This isn't purely editorial, because it could be argued that the last version of the draft modified APPLICATION_CLOSE. We'll have to ensure taht this is included in the changelog. Closes #1508. Commit: efeb2cd8213571ff8b4eb243ea54ac5dc9dad922 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/efeb2cd8213571ff8b4eb243ea54ac5dc9dad922 Author: Daiki AMINAKA <1991.daiki@gmail.com> Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- ACK_ECN type value is not incremented (#1520) Commit: 166cdcb1f9aef485afeb3df19dec80c84e069dc4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/166cdcb1f9aef485afeb3df19dec80c84e069dc4 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Discuss headers in more detail (#1516) * Discuss headers in more detail * Reference 7230 for allowed header characteristics Commit: 346f3715e4128c851df02038d23a876de1773b28 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/346f3715e4128c851df02038d23a876de1773b28 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-07-07 (Sat, 07 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Tolerate unknown stream types, add greasing (#1525) * Tolerate unknown stream types * Prohibit speculative stream type use that modifies core protocol * Discuss padding in Security Considerations * Loosen prohibition on unknown stream types further * Multiply for IANA Commit: f6ec57355422d6bbb8b415b44cd8e091f687fc86 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f6ec57355422d6bbb8b415b44cd8e091f687fc86 Author: Igor Lubashev Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Describe variable-length integer fields explicitly as variable-length encoded (#1534) Commit: 0ebbdadeb73a826bf99ed0ee20da44d2aa8a16ec https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0ebbdadeb73a826bf99ed0ee20da44d2aa8a16ec Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-07-07 (Sat, 07 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Add extensibility section (#1526) * Add extensibility section * Default, not initial Commit: 8b1b3259cc85e45c1253b65774c7490b971c17fb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b1b3259cc85e45c1253b65774c7490b971c17fb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Split initial MAX_STREAM_DATA transport parameters This splits the one parameter into three and makes each optional, with a default of 0. Closes #1016. Commit: c8db08f7eedd5122167e68f57248b4e8d1974290 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8db08f7eedd5122167e68f57248b4e8d1974290 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Experiment with finer-grained cached key Commit: 91116a00d33383bff9d3b5b8b3aa9f9e70b95f71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/91116a00d33383bff9d3b5b8b3aa9f9e70b95f71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Use environment instead Commit: e39278713699ace48902b8fdd80ebe2a68062279 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e39278713699ace48902b8fdd80ebe2a68062279 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Remove quotes Commit: 48d054f011ef3b853144b9dd222024bee885ed00 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48d054f011ef3b853144b9dd222024bee885ed00 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Restructure and refactor description Commit: af811a493f3d67a4bcd1fc41516bf6f052f27e25 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/af811a493f3d67a4bcd1fc41516bf6f052f27e25 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml Log Message: ----------- Caching is a bust because you can't programmatically control keys Commit: 741f849af4b244a45cae5ee4b05163bc65928c11 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/741f849af4b244a45cae5ee4b05163bc65928c11 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Fix: relative indices cannot be used with static table Commit: e33e9f217a7471898af04ab5dace36b074954917 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e33e9f217a7471898af04ab5dace36b074954917 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Talk about HTTP/2 using HPACK in present tense Commit: 8d46bc84cd4f5bd0537b670b627e6626c24df91b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8d46bc84cd4f5bd0537b670b627e6626c24df91b Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-07-10 (Tue, 10 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Move HTTP_*PACK_COMPRESSION_FAILED to QPACK (#1532) * Move HTTP_*PACK_COMPRESSION_FAILED to QPACK * instructions, not frames Commit: f6d01683dede77587e009b1ec338e8660061219d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f6d01683dede77587e009b1ec338e8660061219d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Strike application-owned Side effect of stream 0 changes was that this qualification is no longer necessary. Closes #1297. Commit: 67278eb723afb5b65d3eaf57cd7f2eee6b2e85d4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/67278eb723afb5b65d3eaf57cd7f2eee6b2e85d4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Explaining this was harder than I realized Commit: 83a15cdd1be5ff3b6f287adf9af2abb96dd7b2ef https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83a15cdd1be5ff3b6f287adf9af2abb96dd7b2ef Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- More fixups Commit: 6e2437f5490e0e057d137d7af3fafa850bf4096b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e2437f5490e0e057d137d7af3fafa850bf4096b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1545 from quicwg/application-owned Strike application-owned Commit: 8b51ff571d851e09e40b013eb1f62e83b5fbeb0d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b51ff571d851e09e40b013eb1f62e83b5fbeb0d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup implicit stream opening This was already in pretty good shape. I added something to the state machine and tweaked the critical text slightly. Closes #1342. Commit: 3a54198a6fbab323f430550f7dab18ddb995f87e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a54198a6fbab323f430550f7dab18ddb995f87e Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Remove the discussion about when to use long header. Reasons: * V2 and later versions should have the freedom to decide when to trigger version negotiation (note: version negotiation requires the use of long header packets). * Removes the false impression that the use of a path always start with a long header. That is not the case for v1 due to involuntary NAT rebinding. Commit: a558f795e08a8199000695bb0128aa01435ee285 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a558f795e08a8199000695bb0128aa01435ee285 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1542 from quicwg/split-flow-control-tp Split initial MAX_STREAM_DATA transport parameters Commit: 4fd3dc2427252a1b3f75f62ef4f7118ffae11219 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4fd3dc2427252a1b3f75f62ef4f7118ffae11219 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- For Ian Commit: 3a05e5472c55e77370596a3ed3b15c71dcd4bcfa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a05e5472c55e77370596a3ed3b15c71dcd4bcfa Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Add another bad assumption Commit: 8f64ad3dbe80331f3a16ac8c231892a9edd0dbf0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8f64ad3dbe80331f3a16ac8c231892a9edd0dbf0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1550 from kazuho/kazuho/invariants/when-to-use-long-headers Remove the discussion about when to use long header Commit: 595c9dd73e5e9d17f1c39cac5fc36f82dcf26761 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/595c9dd73e5e9d17f1c39cac5fc36f82dcf26761 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- More tweaking Commit: da2ea39bbd7b6359ad7a711475a94dae3a68bcd4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da2ea39bbd7b6359ad7a711475a94dae3a68bcd4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Plural Commit: a0145a203feb85174b7ee1e7fb637323cae76e1b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a0145a203feb85174b7ee1e7fb637323cae76e1b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1549 from quicwg/implicit-open Fixup implicit stream opening Commit: a24d9a769419df58ff2c50dd067d20635f97e9e3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a24d9a769419df58ff2c50dd067d20635f97e9e3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove extra blank line Commit: d1740abc6dc487bfcc11ab989560ae23debc6e37 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d1740abc6dc487bfcc11ab989560ae23debc6e37 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-07-14 (Sat, 14 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- PADDING counts towards bytes in flight (#1540) * PADDING counts towards byte in flight Clarifies the recovery draft in light of #1517 * Clarify byte_in_flight * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Adds in_flight to sent_packets * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * in-flight * Integrate Martin's suggestion * Long header CRYPTO packets * packets * Jana's comments * 65 chars Commit: 582faf75e2923584e4bb6eaaa6122e3cf6b125f7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/582faf75e2923584e4bb6eaaa6122e3cf6b125f7 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-07-14 (Sat, 14 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- reflow qpack Commit: 4c362b7c4a4612c57e13f7be0be2e3ec9b26a45f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4c362b7c4a4612c57e13f7be0be2e3ec9b26a45f Author: ianswett Date: 2018-07-14 (Sat, 14 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml M .lint.py M Makefile M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md A draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md A tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-rfc6928 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/bdd2bfe33e9d...4c362b7c4a46 **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b4a42e62ef58_1f2a2b07f03b7c0c94c6-- From nobody Sat Jul 14 11:38:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15498130E8F for ; 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1148,6 +1148,23 @@ retransmission timeout has been verified.
      congestion_window = kMinimumWindow
 ~~~
 
+# Security Considerations
+
+## Local Denial of Service
+
+QUIC requires congestion control, and recommends Reno. Not using a
+congestion control algorithm or using an overly aggressive
+algorithm may cause flows sharing the same link to experience
+excess delay, packet loss, and timeouts.

SG, did you want to edit this PR to your liking and then land it?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -reordering of packets in the network.
-
-The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3.
-
-We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
-{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
-reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
-losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
+and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the
+ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold
+provides some tolerance for reordering of packets in the network.
+
+The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3, based on 
+TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}. Some networks may exhibit higher
+degrees of reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting
+spurious losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded

Agreed, its either confusing or wrong, depending on your perspective.

How about spuriously detecting losses?

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
+
+ACK frames:
+
+: ACK frames refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames in this
+  document.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK frame.
+

Suggest being specific about ACK and ACK_ECN here

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I think I addressed all the comments and I reverted the 1.25 -> 1.125 change and put it in my recovery slides.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -reordering of packets in the network.
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-We derive this recommendation from TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
-{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
-reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
-losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
+and/or a threshold amount of time after the unacknowledged packet. Receipt of the
+ack indicates that a later packet was received, the reordering threshold
+provides some tolerance for reordering of packets in the network.
+
+The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3, based on 
+TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}. Some networks may exhibit higher
+degrees of reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting
+spurious losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded

somehow reminds me of https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure

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My interpretation of -3 will be that token_len and token are placed after the payload, because payload is defined as the last element = of the long header. But that means that -13 is impossible to implement, b= ecause the length of the payload can=E2=80=99t be determined without pars= ing the token_len field that follows the payload.

Anyways my understanding is that the correct definition is to place to= ken and token_len right before the encrypted pn field.

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Another consideration to consider: Congestion control fundamentally involves the consumption of signals from unauthenticated entities. On-path attackers can spoof or alter these signals. An attacker can cause endpoints to reduce their sending rate by dropping packets, or alter send rate by changing ECN markings.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not
+  ACK-only.
+
+Retransmittable Frames:
+
+: All frames besides ACK, ACK_ECN, or PADDING are considered
+  retransmittable.
+
+Retransmittable Packets:
+
+: Packets that contain retransmittable frames elicit an ACK from
+  the receiver and are called retransmittable packets.

Both packets and frames aren't classified as retransmittable or not. It would be better if this used a different label.

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> On Jul 14, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com= > wrote:
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>

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> Anyways my understanding is that the correct definition is to place = token and token_len right before the encrypted pn field.
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It isn't perfect, but it's straightforward, and addresses the fragility problem adequately I think. Fixes #1481. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1565 -- Commit Summary -- * Simplify receiver verification of ECN corruption -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (25) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1565.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1565.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1565 ----==_mimepart_5b4a6a938fb59_736e3fc5a63f8f80366211 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This mechanism modifies the response proposed in #1555. It isn't perfect, but it's straightforward, and addresses the fragility problem adequately I think.

Fixes #1481.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1771,20 +1772,18 @@ the expectation that either the network or the peer no longer supports ECN.
 To protect the connection from arbitrary corruption of ECN codepoints by the
 network, an endpoint verifies the following when an ACK_ECN frame is received:
 
-* The total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counters reported in the ACK_ECN
-  frame MUST be equal to the total number of packets newly acknowledged in this
-  ACK_ECN frame.
-
-* The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no greater than the number
+* The increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counters MUST be no lesser than the number

"no lesser" isn't a turn of phrase I'm comfortable with. "MUST be at least the number of newly acknowledged packets"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>    of packets newly acknowledged that were sent with the corresponding codepoint.
 
-* If the increase in the ECT(0), ECT(1) and CE counters are greater than
-  the number of newly acknowledged packets, and the received ACK's
-  smallest acknowledged is larger than the previous largest acknowledged,
-  then it's likely acknowledgements were missed, and the above comparison
-  MUST NOT be performed. Instead a new comparison point is stored by the
-  sender so that only changes after this point will be used in the future
-  comparisons.
+* The total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counters reported in the ACK_ECN
+  frame MUST be no lesser than the total number of packets newly acknowledged in

ditto

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +the acknowledgement indicates that a later packet was received, while the
+reordering threshold provides some tolerance for reordering of packets in the
+network.
+
+The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3, based on
+TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}. Some networks may exhibit higher
+degrees of reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Spuriously
+declaring packets lost leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in
+degraded performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon
+detecting loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as
+TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience.
+
+QUIC implementations may use time-based loss detection to deal with reordering.
+time-based loss detection allows a certain amount of reordering above
+max(SRTT, latest_rtt).  The RECOMMENDED reordering tolerance is
+1/8 max(SRTT, latest_rtt).

This should be reworded. How about: "QUIC implementations can use time-based loss detection to handle reordering based on time elapsed since the packet was sent, instead of a packet reordering threshold. The RECOMMENDED time threshold, expressed as a fraction of the round-trip time (kTimeReorderingFraction), is 1/8." (The details of SRTT, etc are in the algo below, so I think being generic is ok here.)

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Section 4.1 says so (quote below), which seems counterintuitive.

A long header contains the following fields:
(snip)
Payload: The payload of the packet.

I think we should talk about "long header packets" (instead of "long header"), or remove "payload" from the list and diagrams that explain what the header is.

The same applies to the definition of the short header.

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Closes #1566.

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  • Describe the fields of packets (not packet headers)

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

I'm not sure of the reason for the change, but this looks fine to me.

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Thank you for working on the changes. They look good to me.

FWIW, I realized that this is an issue we should fix by looking at the= fact that we could have two interpretations of where the token-len and t= oken fields could be located in -13. One interpretation is that it is bef= ore the payload assuming that payload is not part of the header, and the = other is that it should be after the payload because payload is defined a= s part of the header.

It is source of confusion as you can see in #1535. While it is true that we will = be moving the location of the token fields in #1498, I think this PR is worth the effo= rt to avoid similar confusion in the future.

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@huitema To clarify, my interpretation of -13 (explained above) is different from your interpretation that is described as "this means that the variable length token length follows the variable length PN". #1567 to avoid that confusion.

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The text on key derivation is extremely thin and this is causing some people trouble. We should expand this and be more explicit.

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Discussion at hackathon concluded that the current interpretation would be that all invocations of HKDF-Expand-Label in QUIC would use the "quic " label prefix.

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IIRC some of us slightly leaned to using "tls13 " as the prefix for traffic secrets, so that we could use a session ticket obtained using TLS 1.3 over TCP in QUIC.

It would give us 1-RTT reduction when switching from H2 to HQ using alt-svc.

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I don't see how resumption from h2 to hq is relevant.

Traffic secrets are generated by TLS, using "tls13 ", the only one that we have to worry about is the initial secrets, which QUIC derives.

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----==_mimepart_5b4b5bebe18a0_1c8d2ae9ea196f50279371-- From nobody Sun Jul 15 07:40:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33997130E10 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 07:40:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gj2v_NGOBUWw for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 07:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E5A130DE4 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 07:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 07:40:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531665631; bh=fl/vSDJh8+pIh3wSIw4SwipY4jFADCTNJCg+f8/O1e4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Cld+eHsf70DJuP4+focsEXTBcbxelEsQF9M/Z5jGlyc155RepcJ4RNGD757QmtZFR Tyth4ahFymDayK+10czfAdVJLsE6bk1FG7VPmkABvzPV+a/Z4zrUUVwYWos567S7x+ VTRtSv6PGOF81EhrRYyiHpxv2LaO0ykgTNUkdf9o= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be more explicit about key derivation (#1568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4b5cdfd8afe_7892ae877dc4f581626b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 14:40:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4b5cdfd8afe_7892ae877dc4f581626b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho for more discussion of resumption from TLS over TCP, see Issue #941 which is v2. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1568#issuecomment-405096468 ----==_mimepart_5b4b5cdfd8afe_7892ae877dc4f581626b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho for more discussion of resumption from TLS over TCP, see Issue #941 which is v2.

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Traffic secrets are generated by TLS, using "tls13 ", the only one that we have to worry about is the initial secrets, which QUIC derives.

My understanding is that (at least for the interop) we have agreed to use "quic " for traffic secrets as well.

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Isn't cross protocol resumption between TLS 1.3 and DTLS 1.3 being allowed? Then, I do not see why it should be disallowed between TLS 1.3 and QUIC.

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@ianswett Thanks for the pointer. I left my comment there.

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Martin's comment #941 (comment) regarding ALPN convinces me that it is not possible to use 0-RTT when switching from h2 to hq, even if we allow cross-protocol resumption.

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@MikeBishop I agree the use of ack is somewhat inconsistent. I'd like to clean that up in a separate PR.

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I don't know why circle is still showing breakage with the old qpack draft. I'll merge this.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

one nit, but lgtm

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -228,10 +228,10 @@ degraded performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon
 detecting loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as
 TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience.
 
-QUIC implementations may use time-based loss detection to deal with reordering.
-time-based loss detection allows a certain amount of reordering above
-max(SRTT, latest_rtt).  The RECOMMENDED reordering tolerance is
-1/8 max(SRTT, latest_rtt).
+QUIC implementations can use time-based loss detection to handle reordering
+based on time elapsed since the packet was sent, instead of a packet reordering

slight rewording suggestion: "QUIC implementations can use time-based loss detection instead of a packet reordering threshold to handle reordering based on time elapsed since the packet was sent."

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Fixes the rest of #1102

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  • Remove MSS

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----==_mimepart_5b4b8e5c4e375_25133f9e5023af7c2136d-- From nobody Sun Jul 15 11:12:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073FE12F18C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vJMxx1J43SKS for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1DA8128CF3 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:12:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531678341; bh=MQKRLSotiNOHz9tzT0j9JMoKIxBzt8UChnr6/w/LhLI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P0d9hB58apbkdYU6ySy81ayibglVG++QAOCYORzL8Y0U190miyO/w5ILWJaFq+XAv PcfmncAFAaXF0LP1fI1T7ZZKeN1MqAwvz/10UC4Ar5757x6pRov4hqUiypP7p5hpcn 9fXH3a9EIgcxv3+2C8jvZsOb7U/SBUuBQ+msdVMQ= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] wrong MSS value in congestion avoidance phase (#1102) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4b8e8558a0_2043f964c498f78547228"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:12:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4b8e8558a0_2043f964c498f78547228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The NewReno RFC(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6582) talks about SMSS. In the updated text, we use kMaxDatagramSize, which is analogous to SMSS. I sent out #1569 to remove the remaining reference to MSS, but otherwise I think this is now fixed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1102#issuecomment-405108083 ----==_mimepart_5b4b8e8558a0_2043f964c498f78547228 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The NewReno RFC(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6582) talks about SMSS. In the updated text, we use kMaxDatagramSize, which is analogous to SMSS.

I sent out #1569 to remove the remaining reference to MSS, but otherwise I think this is now fixed.

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If we want to allow the peer to observe timers that wake up a bit late, but we don't want peers to have ACK loss cause large spikes in max_ack_delay, we can set the max_ack_delay to a special value(ie: 0) if the largest_acked has already been previously acknowledged.

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@MikeBishop closed his PR because I believe we decided there was not enough interest in this to warrant a change prior to v1.

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The connection IDs can be either 0 bytes or anything between 4 and 18 bytes (inclusive). Lengths of 1, 2 and 3 bytes are not possible.

There are several use cases that would benefit from using shorter connection IDs, especially in p2p applications. An endpoint could encode the length of the connection ID into the first few bits, and then starts using 1 byte connection IDs first, and successively moves to longer lengths only when handling more connections. For p2p hosts, in many cases 2 bytes would be sufficient for all use cases.

In the connection ID length field in the Long Header, we only have 4 bits to encode a range of 19 values (we want 0 byte connection IDs, and we want to support 18 byte connection IDs), so some values have to be left out. It seems there are few use cases for 13, 14 and 15 bytes.

We could achieve this by changing the definition of the length to:

An encoded length between 0 and 12 inclusive indicates that the connection ID is also 0 to 12 octets in length. Any larger value is increased by 3 to get the full length of the connection ID, producing a length between 16 and 18 octets inclusive.

If people are supportive of this change, I'd be happy to write a PR.

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----==_mimepart_5b4b95f1cc244_1c3b2ae9ea196f504281f9-- From nobody Sun Jul 15 11:53:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A5E130DD2 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id phiHR7dxUHrJ for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C309127598 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:53:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531680820; bh=B+qMMjbsl5zygOcapfhK5jhfX+ALGqlBsBZ2WyThzOk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bZs7X6IBwPBYT5IVP926UgJ0UmezYK4UgLkVKtEldU/dJPloFG7pPwJDPYngrer6g HlImvKZFZvHZQDSCbHKW2XmEpDlyQ9RGYBQDfxn0TOi4mlOpBYX9MHg93XCBWkbuLO nEKgao5EcSXL6wEg5hR91r1/Vy6P2JxCXBClddeo= From: Magnus Westerlund Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify receiver verification of ECN counters (#1565) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4b983476b28_1aa3f964c498f78464876"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gloinul X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:53:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4b983476b28_1aa3f964c498f78464876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gloinul commented on this pull request. I think this is okay given that the "no lesser" is addressed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1565#pullrequestreview-137274865 ----==_mimepart_5b4b983476b28_1aa3f964c498f78464876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I think this is okay given that the "no lesser" is addressed.

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----==_mimepart_5b4b983476b28_1aa3f964c498f78464876-- From nobody Sun Jul 15 11:55:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77223127598 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:55:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uVPTqdBHLRBd for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 597BA130DE5 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:55:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531680913; bh=X+YmOinyZ+1/zS8YvdCOmcuIF/Mt8Y6VRKYAelln9sQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WGcVu+ki6feNz1NRE5j547khpq1dmib6NJ62wc8Qs/h6iJm0+prG91VPQ+jI1f+YY pI871xxwW+8m5wvCsHkKaoYNVe+TNBDxZBpECn7gnOWpkeDBhdTVRu64R6hfdTRSnY SAYCSBeMetoykodqTL2Lyw+VFoWZRhTUTiP5+BHM= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID lengths 1, 2 and 3 bytes can't be encoded (#1570) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4b98917d167_319c2ab655662f5c681857"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:55:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4b98917d167_319c2ab655662f5c681857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We should fix this, especially since the CIDs will become ossified quickly. Skipping 13-15 is odd, but that's going to be true of anything we skip. I'm supportive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1570#issuecomment-405110534 ----==_mimepart_5b4b98917d167_319c2ab655662f5c681857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We should fix this, especially since the CIDs will become ossified quickly. Skipping 13-15 is odd, but that's going to be true of anything we skip. I'm supportive.

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There are also use cases in radio based sensor networks and also wired= lightweight protocols that use QUIC without IP/UDP framing. For example = an I2C bus or similar microcontroller network might use QUIC for security= and routing but really care about keeping individual message frames shor= t. Such use cases might, BTW also opt to truncate the trailing authentica= tion tag.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4b9fd6de32e_543f2b0735640f5c471535-- From nobody Sun Jul 15 15:17:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BD3130E8C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:17:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AOJS7__KLsJg for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA529130E89 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:17:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531693025; bh=G8756K7Fw2TUL/xkb6JMAo2Gu7K8KkJ6yZpe9lPUQm8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gA33HQApcvx1XTm/LMnAgIw+69AHccv6ny7QICHysf+KoBz9i1yEWUsmida9DWNT7 r6TqS675cytwiWR0muu58a1T5tsCxA7EbhOqTM9tS9VpqWT15HVCodp/5jxga6CBTU Kjd2TT365+NcDG02QrBq03gDaTH4b5WWob1w3PJc= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID lengths 1, 2 and 3 bytes can't be encoded (#1570) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4bc7e170753_46523f8ac84daf845417f0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 22:17:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4bc7e170753_46523f8ac84daf845417f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have any objection to shorter lengths, but my memory of the discussion in Melbourne was that some people opposed short IDs because th= e natural way to allocation them was with some kind of counter (though I suppose you could build a shuffle table) and that therefore this would create privacy leaks -Ekr On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Marten Seemann wrote: > The connection IDs can be either 0 bytes or anything between 4 and 18 > bytes (inclusive). Lengths of 1, 2 and 3 bytes are not possible. > > There are several use cases that would benefit from using shorter > connection IDs, especially in p2p applications. An endpoint could encod= e > the length of the connection ID into the first few bits, and then start= s > using 1 byte connection IDs first, and successively moves to longer len= gths > only when handling more connections. For p2p hosts, in many cases 2 byt= es > would be sufficient for all use cases. > > In the connection ID length field in the Long Header, we only have 4 bi= ts > to encode a range of 19 values (we want 0 byte connection IDs, and we w= ant > to support 18 byte connection IDs), so *some* values have to be left ou= t. > It seems there are few use cases for 13, 14 and 15 bytes. > > We could achieve this by changing the definition of the length to: > > An encoded length between 0 and 12 inclusive indicates that the connect= ion > ID is also 0 to 12 octets in length. Any larger value is increased by 3= to > get the full length of the connection ID, producing a length between 16= and > 18 octets inclusive. > > If people are supportive of this change, I'd be happy to write a PR. > > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > , or mute the thread= > > . > -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1570#issuecomment-405122659= ----==_mimepart_5b4bc7e170753_46523f8ac84daf845417f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have any objection to shorter lengths, but my memory of the discussion in Melbourne was that some people opposed short IDs because th= e
natural way to allocation them was with some kind of counter (though I suppose you could build a shuffle table) and that therefore this would create privacy leaks

-Ekr


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wrote:

> The connection IDs can be either 0 bytes or anything between 4 and 1= 8
> bytes (inclusive). Lengths of 1, 2 and 3 bytes are not possible.
= >
> There are several use cases that would benefit from using shorter > connection IDs, especially in p2p applications. An endpoint could en= code
> the length of the connection ID into the first few bits, and then st= arts
> using 1 byte connection IDs first, and successively moves to longer = lengths
> only when handling more connections. For p2p hosts, in many cases 2 = bytes
> would be sufficient for all use cases.
>
> In the connection ID length field in the Long Header, we only have 4= bits
> to encode a range of 19 values (we want 0 byte connection IDs, and w= e want
> to support 18 byte connection IDs), so *some* values have to be left= out.
> It seems there are few use cases for 13, 14 and 15 bytes.
>
> We could achieve this by changing the definition of the length to: >
> An encoded length between 0 and 12 inclusive indicates that the conn= ection
> ID is also 0 to 12 octets in length. Any larger value is increased b= y 3 to
> get the full length of the connection ID, producing a length between= 16 and
> 18 octets inclusive.
>
> If people are supportive of this change, I'd be happy to write a= PR.
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You can't use new connection IDs in the same way when the space is too small (arguably 4 is too small, but several people wanted 4). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1570#issuecomment-405348255 ----==_mimepart_5b4cecea64504_3282b159e872f6048638e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

ekr's comment here is right. You can't use new connection IDs in the same way when the space is too small (arguably 4 is too small, but several people wanted 4).

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4.2.6.1. Integer encoding

Settings which are integers use the QUIC variable-length integer encodin= g.

So I don't think there's anything ambiguous in the current draft. It is= strange however that there is both a variable-length integer specifying th= e length of the integer setting AND the setting itself is a variable-length= integer, so its length is self-describing and redundant.

We could instead define settings that are integers use all of the = Contents octets to specify the integer and take the length exclusive= ly from the Length field of the parameter. This would save a = byte on the wire here and there (eg a parameter with value 100 currently re= quires 3 bytes to encode), and possibly make things a little less confusing= , at the cost of having yet another way to encode integers.

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You can't use them the same way for sure, but they are useful in a dif= ferent way. Unlinkability is not always a concern, or it may happen where= linkability would happen anyway, such as a IP tuple but where the port n= umber is not the best option to differentiate connections, e.g. due to av= oid OS interference.

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That is weird, especially when

A zero-length content indicates that the setting value is a Boolean and true. False is indicated by the absence of the setting.

What is expected there, a Length of 0 and a Content varint of length 0?

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However,

An implementation MUST ignore the contents for any SETTINGS identifier it does not understand.

justifies externalising the length such that you can skip over unknown settings parameters within a SETTINGS frame

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----==_mimepart_5b4d0eaee895b_9393fd64c526f7c165888d-- From nobody Mon Jul 16 14:39:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A267513129B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dRPSM0l4pB2V for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 389DA131285 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:39:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531777184; bh=STrwsxZSILv303UGlhPkXLtOTEpc4WoYSDIZhuuL8hE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=r8OaOlJ/iUwGTBTtzlnLhQdOLDCdMwTSubsba8Jh3KgnrFFBbn2uIMw5MmyvW09bE hUfyew49JxhcWw8kGjwEJN0sz4sPRfBkOydaM0763clmGi7z9y66O5u6j+q3OZWrHC RQY/jb7jBqK4x4uECJeDq+Oj5QLkKQrC1eZAHuVk= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP SETTINGS: define setting content encoding (#1556) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4d10a080932_2a442ac15efb2f5849511d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:39:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4d10a080932_2a442ac15efb2f5849511d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @LPardue I think for boolean it's 0 `Length` and no content. I agree that externalizing the length is good to skip unknown settings. I'm not a fan of the implicit boolean false either, it's much safer to make things explicit. SETTINGS are not so frequent or large that we need to apply QPACKian levels of byte squeezing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1556#issuecomment-405390338 ----==_mimepart_5b4d10a080932_2a442ac15efb2f5849511d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@LPardue I think for boolean it's = 0 Length and no content.

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I agree @afrind . What examples of boolean settings are there anyway? The one's that I am familiar with use an integer of 0 or 1, but it isn't boolean ;)

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-httpbis-h2-websockets-02.html#rfc.section.3

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ouch! I totally missed section 4.2.6.1 and I think (as you pointed out= ) the fact that we have a length field before a varint that also includes= the length threw me off.

@LPardue, FYI: I was looking at yo= ur implementation and it seems that you also made my same assumption that= integers are 4-bytes long
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ouch! I completely missed section 4.2.6.1, but the fact that (as @afrind pointed out) we have a length field before a quic-varint that also includes its own length threw me off.

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@lnicco: thanks for identifiying the issue, I captured it on bbc/nghq#3

@MikeBishop: generally speaking, issues like thiscould be shaken out with some minimal HTTP/QUIC handshake interop

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I'm also working on a PNE appendix.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -206,6 +206,17 @@ Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+### Maximum Ack Delay
+
+QUIC is able to explicitly model delay at the receiver via the ack delay
+field in the ACK frame.  Therefore, QUIC diverges from TCP by calculating a
+MaxAckDelay dynamically, instead of assuming a constant delayed ack timeout
+for all connections.
+
+MaxAckDelay is the maximum ack delay supplied in an incoming ACK frame.

In all incoming ACK frames?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -206,6 +206,17 @@ Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+### Maximum Ack Delay
+
+QUIC is able to explicitly model delay at the receiver via the ack delay
+field in the ACK frame.  Therefore, QUIC diverges from TCP by calculating a
+MaxAckDelay dynamically, instead of assuming a constant delayed ack timeout
+for all connections.
+
+MaxAckDelay is the maximum ack delay supplied in an incoming ACK frame.
+MaxAckDelay excludes ack delays that aren't included in an RTT sample because

Should we say "that don't have a larger Largest Acknowledged"?

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----==_mimepart_5b4e0a4a3398a_5d073fee32538f801052c-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 08:28:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180A5130F88 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zAjcd-PZ_LDn for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B946130F89 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:27:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=0hwTlXSjbYQ4aFg4lSJTJ6sjtew=; b=s8XNq+xHQBdmqOil I9MaMGGwFVNwnAIKRDLWMkI3eLAynu/tYMVPQMstOLa6Z5ssK1YFmuUw7tiRa/5m 3+fmxEYpkqYbW7EIPEPnY+Zk0NeqO5xx7HYZB723SjP5x06p0pp7gMHJhDwW45tw UEnVZ8IgrIQ+3S/yXL91i7riy3U= Received: by filter0411p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0411p1iad2-2710-5B4E0AE8-23 2018-07-17 15:27:36.539721615 +0000 UTC m=+415845.809312712 Received: from github-lowworker10-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.38]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id wMhmjXPXQC2if_TsCBGRCQ for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:27:36.497 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker10-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A32444B10 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:27:36 +0000 (UTC) From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider simplifying Packet Number Encryption (#1575) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e0ae848526_1c433fbc7d728f841132b9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2UmHwyb/AJOZPVHbZKtXUNdafhoLuQRM/OGT znRF3shcv3VDQr5XFYqVDbHqv255k2ktOI5lODIn4prJyholK2L8xJaa5FU4xMc+bRrycsTpArStw4 dUCXAMIfI0PH20we8JDO9yGL2cGsapw62Cw/l8hhG2FBdQvzHWyWsYYypHzcdHoFND43XL8SysYYaj M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:27:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e0ae848526_1c433fbc7d728f841132b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently PNE encrypts the variable-length packet number. There are at least two ways to implement decryption: 1. decrypt the first byte in-place, compute the PN length, decrypt the remaining bytes in-place 2. decrypt the max PN length (4 bytes) into a separate buffer, compute the PN length, copy that amount of bytes back This has the downside of worse performance, or can cause timing attacks. It would be simpler to always encrypt the max length - that way we can always decrypt 4 bytes in place. Apologies if this has been discussed before, I wasn't able to find it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1575 ----==_mimepart_5b4e0ae848526_1c433fbc7d728f841132b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Currently PNE encrypts the variable-length packet number. There are at least two ways to implement decryption:

  1. decrypt the first byte in-place, compute the PN length, decrypt the remaining bytes in-place
  2. decrypt the max PN length (4 bytes) into a separate buffer, compute the PN length, copy that amount of bytes back

This has the downside of worse performance, or can cause timing attacks.

It would be simpler to always encrypt the max length - that way we can always decrypt 4 bytes in place.

Apologies if this has been discussed before, I wasn't able to find it.

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Encrypting the long header payload length would make all non-invariant bytes of QUICv1 encrypted (apart from the first byte). It wouldn't give us a significant privacy win because the length can be computed from the UDP length and/or searching for cleartext version numbers further in the payload - but obfuscating this could help reduce yet another possibility for ossification.

If we decide to move forward with #1575, then PNE for long header would just encrypt 8 bytes starting from the start of the payload length.

Apologies if this has been discussed before, I wasn't able to find it.

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Currently using variable-length encoding for the long header payload length complicates implementations because the payload length is not necessarily known at the start of payload assembly. One solution is to have a separate buffer and/or copy the payload when complete. What several implementations end up doing is to always use the two-byte variant of variable length encoding for all values 0-16383. Making this a 16bit field would allow all values 0-65535 and simplify implementations.

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This would break coalesced packets (multiple QUIC packets in one UDP frame).

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You need to know the length you're about to write in order to not overflow the maximum packet size. I had no problem whatsoever using the smallest possible varint representation for the payload length.

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If you send very short messages such as PING you risk overlapping with the AEAD tag and then it starts to get interesting figuring out how to decrypt the packet number.

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----==_mimepart_5b4e18848ae84_4f282aac82494f5458845-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 09:50:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1611B130EC5 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54T0WEr74XIo for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B19B8130EC2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:50:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531846221; bh=RHE/XAq8D4tGYCjOsf9JYCJ3Kr0RJXms6qs84Fuh8qc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rIieEK/KBwPA9Pi5yuvRAj3DCL9lt1feL3oifYpbDRFrVDGGGi5NlOYlbA6uhgQ8T VmgNY0wpJuWtCIcLq2G+6+WaR3LaQ3E8Gm27IFPKQonKSTBP5QjB+jhT6yx8jlSV0a 9jHfsunSLcMyTa+Zu6ObhzPjLVEtk2fhENFieM0A= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Keep PN out of AEAD (#1578) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e1e4dad499_2ee43fd92dd64f841395a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:50:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e1e4dad499_2ee43fd92dd64f841395a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the packet number is not included in AEAD then there is no reason to modify the receive buffer to verify the packet. Since the packet number is used as IV it is verified regardless. Most encryption functions have a function like decrypt (key, IV, auth-data, auth-data-len, cipher-text, cipher-text-len, tag) verify (key, IV, auth-data, auth-data-len, cipher-text, cipher-text-len, tag) ``` 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |0|K|1|1|0|R R R| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Destination Connection ID (0..144) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Packet Number (8/16/32) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Protected Payload (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1578 ----==_mimepart_5b4e1e4dad499_2ee43fd92dd64f841395a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If the packet number is not included in AEAD then there is no reason to modify the receive buffer to verify the packet. Since the packet number is used as IV it is verified regardless.

Most encryption functions have a function like
decrypt (key, IV, auth-data, auth-data-len, cipher-text, cipher-text-len, tag)
verify (key, IV, auth-data, auth-data-len, cipher-text, cipher-text-len, tag)

 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|0|K|1|1|0|R R R|
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                Destination Connection ID (0..144)           ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
<end of authenticated data>
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                      Packet Number (8/16/32)                ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
<start of encrypted data>
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Protected Payload (*)                   ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

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----==_mimepart_5b4e1e4dad499_2ee43fd92dd64f841395a1-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 09:55:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7195B130EC5 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:54:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id isQw9o97kREU for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38438130EC2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:54:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531846496; bh=VqKmpK2Xo+iaS3oBCjjlkov0gbP1mvWafDOlYXqcVGA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=J6AjuJcXxXbZWtUlEM8JMefkBUuZ+YoT7qwmPuTn4H1Fx+P84yhxEyyrW6WjhRzXm CzB9WYxH+DJYffV75YeJk+ICgoEluIcTnqu5QZY9DbdQAk9bdbKKU67mIK6vymKEO5 FjuuY3oRckBu11np29VN0Z5oW+Bh5NVuEPBO9u0w= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Keep PN out of AEAD (#1578) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e1f603643d_44782ab6776a2f5417130"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:55:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e1f603643d_44782ab6776a2f5417130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So not sure why github posted that before I was done, but it means that the packet number can stay as it is but not affect the tag. This means the decryption and verification can be done by copying just the encrypted PN to a small side buffer to derive the IV and then verify or decrypt without having to modify the incoming payload. This can simplify hardware and multi-processor buffer sharing. It also simplifies decrypting the PN because it can be decoded as if it were full length and never bother potential for overwriting data that is not part of the PN - since it happens in a separate buffer as discussed in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1575 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1578#issuecomment-405652289 ----==_mimepart_5b4e1f603643d_44782ab6776a2f5417130 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So not sure why github posted that before I was done, but

it means that the packet number can stay as it is but not affect the t= ag. This means the decryption and verification can be done by copying jus= t the encrypted PN to a small side buffer to derive the IV and then verif= y or decrypt without having to modify the incoming payload.

This can simplify hardware and multi-processor buffer sharing.

It also simplifies decrypting the PN because it can be decoded as if i= t were full length and never bother potential for overwriting data that i= s not part of the PN - since it happens in a separate buffer as discussed= in #1575

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How so? You decrypt one length/packet number at a time. Or am I missing something?

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I'm not sure I understand, can you elaborate? You just decrypt four bytes - having that flow into the tag is not a problem

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Spinbit measurements presentation for "if time permits" slot.

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----==_mimepart_5b4e315f7c4d4_13693feab9030f78358154-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 11:19:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2976113103A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:19:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o1pB_rlkgfmY for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE2C513101F for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:18:57 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531851537; bh=qll/cmjI+DuyLXhOvnmYWDGnaloKkavhvwJAITyizYw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kh62Ducdv44sDlvF68gTHGKY/M6fHzrk81s43oJoBdRJ68Cwd7z/xZAGO9I4JobO6 x1fuw7CAwibQnKzfyQb8lm7nkds8T0Uv2hx/fxy9MDD82jRQiZNxd+/qCeUnEKJYAb gFSN5Lt2+zFimPqLgK5pk9fTpQKwsaneXaNaOHyk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making long header payload length 16bits (#1577) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e33112ce7a_7f992af6c45b4f60106885a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:19:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e33112ce7a_7f992af6c45b4f60106885a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can't you just use the 16-bit encoding always? You can encode small values on 2, 4, or 8 octets if necessary. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1577#issuecomment-405678442 ----==_mimepart_5b4e33112ce7a_7f992af6c45b4f60106885a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Can't you just use the 16-bit encoding always? You can encode small values on 2, 4, or 8 octets if necessary.

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----==_mimepart_5b4e33112ce7a_7f992af6c45b4f60106885a-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 11:20:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9BC130EA7 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gw-tcZJ2T3mu for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACCB130E4C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:20:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531851632; bh=cJqT+MiOFcYiZqqxk+zFobYRMr/rED8THAlRj9588KM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hTzuZ/YpydAxbxh+Ev+8pK3a8dj+JhNr+vVn6+vKXkaRo5eh2VxFr7Mwlu87M3Q3F gS520rm2q5oKiNmC1Uq7/KiJYdl5LUBzWB/VRg4IxOL3cKb8n/gdRZZZBS2qzKbrDg 5txENiCHS/1oac9QnFjFlViDknIi/aUNEJmQYjoI= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making long header payload length 16bits (#1577) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e3370c01da_45552ae360e96f60795855"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:20:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e3370c01da_45552ae360e96f60795855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You absolutely *can* do that, but it might make implementor's lives easier to use a fixed-width encoding here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1577#issuecomment-405679199 ----==_mimepart_5b4e3370c01da_45552ae360e96f60795855 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

You absolutely can do that, but it might make implementor's lives easier to use a fixed-width encoding here.

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I think that this is purely editorial: the draft doesn't actually describe a process for decryption, just points at considerations. Are you suggesting that we recommend a specific method? I think that any of these options are fine.

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You do not necessarily have all the keys for all the packets in the datagram. You are required to ignore those you don't understand. That is hard if the length is unkown.

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@DavidSchinazi , I see. We shouldn't really reduce the sample size. That is, if you value the strength of the encryption. Either way, it shouldn't be necessary.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -338,15 +351,10 @@ conditions:
 * If RTO ({{rto}}) is earlier, schedule a TLP in its place. That is,
   PTO SHOULD be scheduled for min(RTO, PTO).
 
-MaxAckDelay is the maximum ack delay supplied in an incoming ACK frame.
-MaxAckDelay excludes ack delays that aren't included in an RTT sample because
-they're too large and excludes those which reference an ack-only packet.
-
-QUIC diverges from TCP by calculating MaxAckDelay dynamically, instead of
-assuming a constant delayed ack timeout for all connections.  QUIC includes this
-in all probe timeouts, because it assume the ack delay may come into play,
-regardless of the number of packets outstanding.  TCP's TLP assumes if at least
-2 packets are outstanding, acks will not be delayed.
+QUIC includes MaxAckDelay in all probe timeouts, because it assume the ack

"assumes"

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I agree that this isn't necessary - I'm just wondering if this proposa= l could make implementations simpler and safer.

Proposal: always encrypt four bytes [pn_offset, pn_offset + 3] and alw= ays have the sample start at pn_offset + 4. If the sample were to overflo= w the payload + tag (which only happens if you use 128-bit AES and have p= n_len + payload_len < 4), you just pad the sample with zeroes. In the = worst case scenario the sample contains two bytes of zero but you still h= ave a 128bit secret key. Is that unacceptable?

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Merged #60.

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I wouldn't say unacceptable, but it does lower the birthday bound.

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We discussed something similar in #1301

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@mikkelfj good point. This would break that scenario, thanks for bringing it up. Closing this issue.

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I have been working on the draft -13 updates for the last week or so, and having completely independent packet number spaces causes a lot of complexity. On the sender side, it requires separate loss detection logic per packet number space, though you still have one congestion control and recovery modules for the entire connection. Resolving the intersection of those two is a headache. On the receiver side, you need a separate tracker for all packets you have received in a given packet number space. At least in my implementation, that comes with a good bit more state than just a list/array of packet numbers. Then when it goes time to frame the acks for all these packet numbers, it's a mess to keep track of which types of packets need to be built, based on the data (both ACKs and CRYPTO) currently queued up. The argument has been made, at least on the sender side, to use one contiguous set of packet numbers across all encryption levels/epochs. Yes, that does simply the loss detection logic somewhat, but doesn't help the receive and ACK side of things. Additionally, even if we were to mandate that behavior for everyone, the requirement that you ACK a packet in the same encryption level still causes a lot more complexity than the previous logic of always acknowledging in packets in the same (or greater) encryption level. It was a lot easier to implement the previous ACK model design, IMO. Finally, for debugging purposes, it is really messy to see the same packet numbers, but at different encryption levels. It makes understanding exactly what's going on that much harder. It is a lot more natural to see packet numbers always increase for every packet send/received, independent of what encryption level is used. Having all this extra complexity for just the handshake really seems like overkill. I understand and am all for the separate encryption levels, but I really think we should go back to a single packet number space and allow for ACK frames in higher encryption levels. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579 ----==_mimepart_5b4e4ce420cdf_6572ad54bbb4f54118042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think we should go back to a single packet number space, and allow for higher encryption levels/epochs to acknowledge packets sent/received in lower levels/epochs.

I have been working on the draft -13 updates for the last week or so, and having completely independent packet number spaces causes a lot of complexity. On the sender side, it requires separate loss detection logic per packet number space, though you still have one congestion control and recovery modules for the entire connection. Resolving the intersection of those two is a headache. On the receiver side, you need a separate tracker for all packets you have received in a given packet number space. At least in my implementation, that comes with a good bit more state than just a list/array of packet numbers. Then when it goes time to frame the acks for all these packet numbers, it's a mess to keep track of which types of packets need to be built, based on the data (both ACKs and CRYPTO) currently queued up.

The argument has been made, at least on the sender side, to use one contiguous set of packet numbers across all encryption levels/epochs. Yes, that does simply the loss detection logic somewhat, but doesn't help the receive and ACK side of things. Additionally, even if we were to mandate that behavior for everyone, the requirement that you ACK a packet in the same encryption level still causes a lot more complexity than the previous logic of always acknowledging in packets in the same (or greater) encryption level. It was a lot easier to implement the previous ACK model design, IMO.

Finally, for debugging purposes, it is really messy to see the same packet numbers, but at different encryption levels. It makes understanding exactly what's going on that much harder. It is a lot more natural to see packet numbers always increase for every packet send/received, independent of what encryption level is used.

Having all this extra complexity for just the handshake really seems like overkill. I understand and am all for the separate encryption levels, but I really think we should go back to a single packet number space and allow for ACK frames in higher encryption levels.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4e542d2ce8a_48363ff04c2e2f80127352-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 13:44:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5D0130DEB for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SnKD5NKD99MO for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F8F9130DD2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:44:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=XpNhHZ0YuvsnoIkL8Mqxbs+sy6k=; b=LWhEgENozdASIDMh 8UkMFAma6CT0296ycD3BsDwyEtQB4/95i3pXMw7cbcgiU1nZGjmbhLF492IkUCDV VqT8f0s+ST5rz6O7W5EF4DPOPKS2KwGwW1+zZG2svD3z75XMcCYFf1hXJ4ERD/MT cgaeWkAaR0Y2eNTXlmA4s0E9ymY= Received: by filter1646p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1646p1mdw1-31880-5B4E5525-1 2018-07-17 20:44:21.024346797 +0000 UTC m=+435646.944628605 Received: from github-lowworker-643483b.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.45]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 92omMXPTRduttUMxuxDJCg for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:44:21.022 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-643483b.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0335B6C13EE for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e55251640_1c713f967e102f8034981f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0VzqpOMpKmnbOrpFf5G/up6eafieplQEl01G ESOnRaN/KYg+6NOD+mVMBHnxx9wJK5YZqBLc/zE1PSwlYeMUuyauL+FIA5XAtou12v641GKedBT3CU TLTm7MhQO1/Cu1wn5S6jBDfMZI5KBDzkGTTzf1g89bmWEgfEA4/0iZeafM3lKukW8DuFWHKNo1vTsm g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:44:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e55251640_1c713f967e102f8034981f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we do that, I believe we have to reopen an issue(#1018) Christian pointed out a while back, you can't tell what encryption level an acknowledgement is for, so injecting an unencrypted packet can create a hole that's very difficult to detect and you never end up recovering from. Additionally, by acking at the highest level, it's fairly easy to send an ack the peer can't process, which is a rather nasty issue. We'd also have to fix #1413 a different way, but that's not overly difficult, just a bit ugly. Given the QUIC WG meeting is tomorrow morning, I'm not sure how much we can talk about this, but possibly we could get some feedback from those who've implemented it. I've started mine, but haven't finished FYI. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-405721394 ----==_mimepart_5b4e55251640_1c713f967e102f8034981f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If we do that, I believe we have to reopen an issue(#1018) Christian pointed out a while ba= ck, you can't tell what encryption level an acknowledgement is for, so inje= cting an unencrypted packet can create a hole that's very difficult to dete= ct and you never end up recovering from.

Additionally, by acking at the highest level, it's fairly easy to send a= n ack the peer can't process, which is a rather nasty issue.

We'd also have to fix #1413 a different way, but that's not overly difficult, just a bit ug= ly.

Given the QUIC WG meeting is tomorrow morning, I'm not sure how much we = can talk about this, but possibly we could get some feedback from those who= 've implemented it.

I've started mine, but haven't finished FYI.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4e55251640_1c713f967e102f8034981f-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 13:49:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7328C13106D for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:49:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ou7sIDadjlS for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3F97130FD9 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:49:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531860583; bh=NufVXHp9u4eWqT8K7krOcGkfm9+lIJV8JWOUlSZrMLA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ptuN7PxzGkqVEUlMci92DlAlvmViSRMzDY/9ubLYsxkt+es9q+VrS/2nYDl10C+Y5 JXOwIR4vZWyjuKgpDkyHSBrf3D9Rxba7HNFJ3yEzYzDhVcAUf35fAYhak4/4IL7Ig6 M5DUwM1AxtF7qd439EJF8zTiKEuCJsnc5iCbeP7A= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e56672bfbe_4ec32ab119b52f583632b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:49:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e56672bfbe_4ec32ab119b52f583632b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr I have heard you voice this experience before. Why do you feel acknowledging a packet in the same or higher level encryption level is harder? The simplest way I see to implement it is the following: Along with the set of packet numbers to acknowledge, keep track of the highest encryption level you have received. Then, only send ACK frames in that encryption level or higher. On the receive side, to validate it, you have to keep a few bits to track which encryption level a packet was received. When that packet gets acknowledged, just validate the level. @ianswett for #1018 does requiring ACK frames to be sent in Handshake encryption level or higher solve the problem? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-405722963 ----==_mimepart_5b4e56672bfbe_4ec32ab119b52f583632b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ekr I have heard you voice this exper= ience before. Why do you feel acknowledging a packet in the same or highe= r level encryption level is harder?

The simplest way I see to implement it is the following: Along with th= e set of packet numbers to acknowledge, keep track of the highest encrypt= ion level you have received. Then, only send ACK frames in that encryptio= n level or higher. On the receive side, to validate it, you have to keep = a few bits to track which encryption level a packet was received. When th= at packet gets acknowledged, just validate the level.

@ianswett for #1018 does requiring ACK frames= to be sent in Handshake encryption level or higher solve the problem?

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4e56672bfbe_4ec32ab119b52f583632b4-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 13:54:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF420130DC2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:54:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dcCfE6TwWC5F for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D7B8129C6B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:54:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531860877; bh=H4GVUG+E+1kNVtyplfdBNwANWbAZChZKBMOqQ9FiVUk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oeETYnimQVbU7xtmjG277HXzL1LQ2WwjXBRaVu+CooEjjN6KDhTI9PVkTTmXMr90E +ffouBde4G/ZQ/AwYboKMRxNcJb4pkP38RadqxkG83/R1OknamuTaR8uKzPfyOQpSC R9Ls10tQwKm0Cxzva+T8MHmxvWJOs/cvz5G5zSY0= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e578d99a9f_4dc22b22700bcf58183979"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:54:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e578d99a9f_4dc22b22700bcf58183979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Nick Banks wrote: > @ekr I have heard you voice this experience > before. Why do you feel acknowledging a packet in the same or higher level > encryption level is harder? > It's less a matter of which packet you send it in but the rules for which ACKs you accept. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-405724419 ----==_mimepart_5b4e578d99a9f_4dc22b22700bcf58183979 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Nick Banks <notifications@github.com&= gt;
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> @ekr <https://github.com/ekr> I have heard you voice this expe= rience
> before. Why do you feel acknowledging a packet in the same or higher= level
> encryption level is harder?
>

It's less a matter of which packet you send it in but the rules for w= hich
ACKs you accept.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4e578d99a9f_4dc22b22700bcf58183979-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 13:57:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F83130DD2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:57:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fPVyuGp9LCfr for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EFD8130DC2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:57:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531861073; bh=FUyzbntd8Ocyuh2jZ8U7761crDPQ88ZgKuvyrcLRBrE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TnEje/w7FLGZkQUQkec8f8SaTFG5R2+uF0gdUru9v4SFVVc/LZg+iqRRUp9Oujpc7 yV2JGuD7bzqik9GkinjbyneCIUrZtBHZlaLhE5LPLQf8JfXfKAchY2mylhkz7hG2M/ raYpUCQTufwFhiL0NIDldJAz0jSpcGv78PxVMzFs= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4e5851de449_24f92b0e248eaf502571e2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:57:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4e5851de449_24f92b0e248eaf502571e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. Reserve 2 bits per sent packet tracking structure for encryption level. I'd bet whatever structure you have already has 2 free bits. 2. When processing an ACK frame, pass along the encryption level the frame was received in. Use that in your `OnPacketAcked` function to validate. That logic was a LOT simpler than the logic I have to maintain for framing all my ACKs in the different packet levels right now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-405725492 ----==_mimepart_5b4e5851de449_24f92b0e248eaf502571e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  1. Reserve 2 bits per sent packet tracking structure for encryption leve= l. I'd bet whatever structure you have already has 2 free bits.
  2. When processing an ACK frame, pass along the encryption level the fra= me was received in. Use that in your OnPacketAcked function = to validate.

That logic was a LOT simpler than the logic I have to maintain for fra= ming all my ACKs in the different packet levels right now.

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Re #1018, removing ACKs from Initially encrypted solves that problem. But then if we need multi-packet ClientHellos or ServerHellos(ie: post-quantum), we're stuck with no fast recovery.

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I'd argue quite a few things will likely have to change for multi-pack= et hellos and holding those off for a later QUIC version would be fine. R= ight now, they are single packet only. Additionally, implicit acknowledge= ments, based on handshake state could help out a lot with these issues as= well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not
+  ACK-only.
+
+Retransmittable Frames:
+
+: All frames besides ACK, ACK_ECN, or PADDING are considered
+  retransmittable.
+
+Retransmittable Packets:
+
+: Packets that contain retransmittable frames elicit an ACK from
+  the receiver and are called retransmittable packets.

@martinthomson : I don't understand your comment. Can you rephrase?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not
+  ACK-only.
+
+Retransmittable Frames:
+
+: All frames besides ACK, ACK_ECN, or PADDING are considered
+  retransmittable.
+
+Retransmittable Packets:
+
+: Packets that contain retransmittable frames elicit an ACK from
+  the receiver and are called retransmittable packets.

The notion that a packet is retransmittable is a misnomer because it creates the impression that you can retransmit the packet. Similarly, we don't retransmit frames either. The distinction that is relevant to your uses of these terms is not whether the packet is able to be retransmitted, but whether the packet contains frames other than ACK/ACK_ECN/PADDING.

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I am not sure I understand the issue here. Even if the sender is using= Reno, it should do appropriate byte counting without any limits (since w= e are requiring pacing). If this is the case why does it matter if there= is stretch ACKing? The issue is not the number of ACKs that need to be g= enerated but that ACKs might get delayed. Any ACKing scheme should genera= te an immediate ACK after processing a batch of packets. We should recomm= end that the receiver generate an immediate ACK if it processes more than= 2 packets in the batch, but that it could go slower if it is willing to = live with slower congestion window growth and less RTT / congestion feedb= ack to the sender.

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Just a heads up that per a recent discussion with Yuchung, MAD is no longer being pursued for TCP.

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----==_mimepart_5b4e9f823bf9_1a9ee3fdc9cabef887368f-- From nobody Tue Jul 17 19:09:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AB4130EDD for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:09:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iuAbevVXUA9C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5A1F130E6E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:09:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531879750; bh=OneEkPdH1gub16CEWlSPEpuUqdzGI6WgB4aDEiD2wUM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xFjOg0qwMH/Uq/nIjhoAURvzQUNGV6xTF04wEN3eIJetzL7diXqa3Yu0eN6f1ols0 adjRLGKnQNTtB9U8kK1n07ur3aqHhOu9uTYZRTZCAlMj/n1ehaQU3sjGMbTR8AO3Ci DKCF5OELNlGGkYJJ6jDs9f3x25z8AC/iHCproPI4= From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Eliminating the fixed minimum RTO (#1017) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4ea14627ecc_75f73fb9ae4ccf50609bf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:09:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4ea14627ecc_75f73fb9ae4ccf50609bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RTO should be a function of the RTT and should also account for MAD, and we should have exponential backoff. As long as this is true, I agree that there is no need for minrto. What about initial, handshake and 0-RTT packets though when RTT information is not available? We still need to mandate a minimum for these packets? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1017#issuecomment-405785692 ----==_mimepart_5b4ea14627ecc_75f73fb9ae4ccf50609bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

RTO should be a function of the RTT and should also account for MAD, a= nd we should have exponential backoff. As long as this is true, I agree t= hat there is no need for minrto. What about initial, handshake and 0-RTT = packets though when RTT information is not available? We still need to ma= ndate a minimum for these packets?

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Prior to handshake completion, QUIC only retransmits handshake packets, so the mechanism is slightly different, and therefore we should not need a MinRTO because the RTO timer isn't active.

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+1. I'm noticing also that everyone is using a 2-byte PN, I think it makes sense to just use that. Varlen is overkill.

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This is triggered by the addition of greasing unidirectional stream types. Is ignoring stream data at the application level classed as consuming it from the transport, hence triggering a window flow control update (in the form of MAX_STREAM_DATA).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> + 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|    0x7e     |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Version (32)                          |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|               Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                 Source Connection ID (0/32..144)            ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|    ODCIL(8)   |      Original Destination Connection ID (*)   |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...

This might be a bit esoteric, but here's possible use cases:
Let's say a server only support QUIC v1, and it receives an Initial packet for a different version. The server would then send a Version Negotiation Packet, and could coalesce that with a Retry packet, in order to save one round trip.
I admit feels kind of clumsy though, since the Retry would have to go in front of the VNP (since the VNP doesn't have a length field).

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----==_mimepart_5b4f512c66dd5_733b3fd7de2bef8092474-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 08:20:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAB612D7F8 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:20:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wB1CmDXywGOY for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3A41130F8E for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:20:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531927200; bh=UXcAarDXCEqNBDCu51VKgx/aT+WV6mdIVdgauSfJwoo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n8D1f4yN6onlx9HuA1MP039VPpRxS/Pal0CgeOVBCft10RlX5vkunc/4Nwbatzw2y FeHZR/gz174pWNk/G1yZbmTXInkpF0gBrZ/ZOXNIzat4PSgLrIJ2nRO1lm4yCl5lAX EqKy27FPDrJKldeINSsiQljKAusOgFIV8TxB6nME= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Retry packet (#1498) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f5aa01dbbd_28e3fe4358bef801518e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:20:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f5aa01dbbd_28e3fe4358bef801518e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. > + 0 1 2 3 + 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|1| 0x7e | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Version (32) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)| ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Destination Connection ID (0/32..144) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Source Connection ID (0/32..144) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| ODCIL(8) | Original Destination Connection ID (*) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Retry Token (*) ... @Marten: I am not sure this is a valid use case. The main use case for the retry packet is that it is sent by some kind of firewall as part of DOS defense. The VN is sent end-to-end, and already carries a token of sorts with the Source CID. I don't see the use case of sending both retry and VN end to end. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r203421467 ----==_mimepart_5b4f5aa01dbbd_28e3fe4358bef801518e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> + 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|    0x7e     |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Version (32)                          |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|               Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                 Source Connection ID (0/32..144)            ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|    ODCIL(8)   |      Original Destination Connection ID (*)   |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...

@marten: I am not sure this is a valid use case. The main use case for the retry packet is that it is sent by some kind of firewall as part of DOS defense.

The VN is sent end-to-end, and already carries a token of sorts with the Source CID. I don't see the use case of sending both retry and VN end to end.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> + 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|    0x7e     |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Version (32)                          |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|               Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                 Source Connection ID (0/32..144)            ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|    ODCIL(8)   |      Original Destination Connection ID (*)   |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...

In p2p, you won't have a separate firewall, but a peer might still want to use the Retry mechanism if it's under attack. I'm aware that this is not a very strong argument, since in that case you'd probably be ok with incurring an additional RTT, on the other hand, adding a varint to the header doesn't cost us a lot either.

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This isn't a problem. Flow control in QUIC (the transport) is robust in the face of RST_STREAM and STOP_SENDING.

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Wait, the problem is not wanting to close the stream but the opposite i.e. keeping greased streams open for transferring data as a background noise signal. This will get blocked unless the receiver can update flow control related to data that is intended to be ignored.

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Note that since -13, the settings of the previous connection will be ret= ained in the token, because we no longer define an extension slot in NewSes= sionTicket. The conveyer of address validation data and setting informa= tion have moved to token.

However, token (which is contained in a Initial that attempts a 0-RTT) i= s replaced once the server sends a Retry packet.

That makes handling of 0-RTT a bit complicated, especially when the info= rmation about previous settings is necessary to determine if a server accep= ts the 0-RTT (see #1541= ).

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4f624fc4ef7_423c3fa5f6cbef7c1112c9-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 08:59:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40F2130F3C for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:59:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HrHSvsU0S2fs for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF452130DFE for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:59:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531929568; bh=qjWT5HxZyTkFqjt/2JoAFfK/sXvyFGcSlRoTg4iqC+w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UF+wUuHsGQv87Eert34JMgqOseP8c6O1qCDJNhcYRtCL1MJUxUgiOdUHiRSrM5v+0 sDbIbMdxbLedy2jp3rl7RPDVEymLmkCYOkG8LfJy1h+JS7iNAdTCOpL3GztU7DoMmW am97JEfVRsfk4qjCGtk5b/8CczuWOa8mmdEwVUNw= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f63e0cc8e6_42643fa5f6cbef7c120282"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:59:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f63e0cc8e6_42643fa5f6cbef7c120282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For #1413 I'm still a little unsure how exactly the loss recovery works for 0-RTT during the handshake with separate packet numbers. It seems to get even more complicated (just goes back to the original state?) if just the sender uses a single packet number space. Bottom line, no matter what, I think we need additional text for #1413, even if we don't change packet number spaces (though I still really think we should). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-405983400 ----==_mimepart_5b4f63e0cc8e6_42643fa5f6cbef7c120282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For #1413 I'm still a little unsure how exactly the loss recovery works for 0-RTT= during the handshake with separate packet numbers. It seems to get even = more complicated (just goes back to the original state?) if just the send= er uses a single packet number space. Bottom line, no matter what, I thin= k we need additional text for #1413, even if we don't change packet number spaces (t= hough I still really think we should).

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So supportive of the general function. However, my question is if it i= s in bytes, how does that interact with path MTU discovery. If on starts = at the default 1280 bytes PMTU and one actually have a 4K path MTU networ= k. Then something that was configured for 10 packets will suddenly end up= acking every 3-4 packets.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4f6404b684e_2bc13f99d4ebef8016078d-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 09:04:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A2A13120F for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lviow5BfyuRM for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E89881311F8 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:04:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531929843; bh=LTrT90zCaqYz1NcNNQtWSywaD7aLcu8qAIE5wvu0jY4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y3BCy9pVPmrg8r79oJmyb08RRC8prFe5DXwwuxt0CSWJaWJnT0C5wB6lgQW1GqR9/ KekGtSi7pX7wFu3bMtbjhox46r3LyoQs+ufXco/M+U3E5XbBiTAcs3jOvuCjQrXPID ydRc19UNvCFnIWKq7oykEpB8Z3LxMcOLk5yai/dw= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When the sender is using standard Reno congestion control, ack every ~2 packets (#1428) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f64f345e86_1901f3f867ecbef78151063"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:04:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f64f345e86_1901f3f867ecbef78151063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @gloinul assuming the value can be updated dynamically, and isn't just a transport parameter, couldn't you send the update **in** your PMTUD probe packet? If the packet makes it and gets acknowledged, then everything is good. If the packet was too big, the packet doesn't make it, doesn't get acknowledged and then the peer doesn't even know you tried to increase it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1428#issuecomment-405985137 ----==_mimepart_5b4f64f345e86_1901f3f867ecbef78151063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@gloinul assuming the value can b= e updated dynamically, and isn't just a transport parameter, couldn't you= send the update in your PMTUD probe packet? If the pack= et makes it and gets acknowledged, then everything is good. If the packet= was too big, the packet doesn't make it, doesn't get acknowledged and th= en the peer doesn't even know you tried to increase it.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4f64f345e86_1901f3f867ecbef78151063-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 09:13:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF70131222 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55M2beTuHdWx for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA32B130EB8 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:12:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531930364; bh=ryclUhFroXtxQMO4VfdsM+1JkvD36GXcQFWGAvJMnWY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GRHO3C5dab7QIKDVnE5B2usvE1dL4sz6Ac48gchTq/rNz7BLQhcBXB/YgvwKCYvVv TuSOklrojGbtZNsXImBfPkVXAdE55EC89cl+ZZvmggDmA/YL4K3A+U3vn1gNAlchlH A0aEKswDdIFwRCB/pJsIG8pZl4mdJ877eHkWctjc= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f66fbf2520_fe43fd7ba4ccf58306267"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:12:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f66fbf2520_fe43fd7ba4ccf58306267 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone also explain what the harm would be to allow ACKs for 0-RTT packets to be sent at the Handshake encryption level? Because if we allowed that, the first UDP datagram from the server, could potentially acknowledge everything it has received from the client, 0-RTT included. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-405988079 ----==_mimepart_5b4f66fbf2520_fe43fd7ba4ccf58306267 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Could someone also explain what the harm would be to allow ACKs for 0-= RTT packets to be sent at the Handshake encryption level? Because if we a= llowed that, the first UDP datagram from the server, could potentially ac= knowledge everything it has received from the client, 0-RTT included.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4f66fbf2520_fe43fd7ba4ccf58306267-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 10:01:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB97130E05 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:01:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qGpJAwvtTI0X for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38E90130DE4 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:01:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531933266; bh=roTCgiuMzRKOrBQF+q2ZwqeMh8XyzG74LeNlQYfgVLg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YmghdAU/UYDNRaLj0iUAGlZMpHQVCL8uO6im9NHDUdakQrAagDxUp8VdIjVc8UBqv ONHl/eX2npj2y6cORcd3v+CW63toiwNi717VxqBHWk+qGm0A3P6DM3absWwujD5Xcv f2ZfWhD8r0dBpNY17Op+OnMiEbR4jEZ4h+V9x9Oc= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] hq: Does ignored data/frames cause flow control updates? (#1580) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f72525bae2_7d453f8b898bef80276258"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:01:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f72525bae2_7d453f8b898bef80276258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's not the transport protocols concern what an app does or does not do with the data. A std. QUIC api would deliver data in order, but can arrange for data to be delivered out of order to the app and even ignored. It is the primarily the app the knows how much buffer capacity can absorbed but it may flow to the transport in different ways - for example the app can say this range is not important and this range has been received - leaving capacity in the transports receive buffer that it can then use to update MAX. If this becomes a problem, the app needs to negotiate this with the local app/transport interface but it hasn't got anything to do with the wire protocol. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1580#issuecomment-406003376 ----==_mimepart_5b4f72525bae2_7d453f8b898bef80276258 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's not the transport protocols concern what an app does or does not = do with the data.
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If this becomes a problem, the app needs to negotiate this with the local= app/transport interface but it hasn't got anything to do with the wire p= rotocol.

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Can you explain how this would work for very small packet sizes? I'm not sure what TTL means here - how long state is remembered about an unknown endpoint?

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@mikkelfj I'm not sure what level = of API you are talking. For HTTP/QUIC the spec in 3.3. currently says:

A QUIC stream provides reliable in-order delivery of bytes, but makes = no guarantees about order of delivery with regard to bytes on other strea= ms. On the wire, data is framed into QUIC STREAM frames, but this framing= is invisible to the HTTP framing layer. A QUIC receiver buffers and orde= rs received STREAM frames, exposing the data contained within as a reliab= le byte stream to the application.

So I guess I'm asking for clarification or guidance on whether an appl= ication-level receiver is expected to influence transport flow control wh= en ignoring certain kinds of STREAM data that are not HTTP/QUIC frames. e= .g. a statement to the effect of "ignored bytes still count towards STREA= M flow control credit and should be a handled in as defined elsewhere".

Why is this important? The HTTP/QUIC spec has just added greasing in <= a href=3D"https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.se= ction.3.3.1" rel=3D"nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-q= uic-http.html#rfc.section.3.3.1

Stream types of the format 0x1f * N are reserved to exercise the requi= rement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic mean= ing, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY = also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being tran= sferred.

earlier in the text we have:

Recipients of unknown stream types MAY trigger a QUIC STOP_SENDING fra= me with an error code of HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE, but MUST NOT consider = such streams to be an error of any kind.

In this case the MAY is never enacted.

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However, if there are multiple RST's they must agree, or it is a protocol violation. I assume that data sent after the RST offset will be rolled back from global credits counting, but I'm not entirely sure about this. Perhaps this should be clarified? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1580#issuecomment-406017758 ----==_mimepart_5b4f7dab63d5a_37be3f9b800bef7c742668 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My comments are purely in relation to transport. I can't say if there is= unclear language in the HQ spec.

Even if HQ is a primary use case for QUIC, the transport cannot be conce= rned with how an application uses data. So it HQ (the app in this case) lay= er needs to notify the transport when to advance MAX or it must have anothe= r semi-automatic way to signal this as I suggested earlier. So the answer t= o the question must be a yes - the app must help transport advance flow con= trol as long is it expects to receive more data - on that stream in particu= lar, and on streams in general due to the global flow control credits. Also= if a given range is ignored.

When a stream is terminated using RST there is an exact stream offset in= cluded. Data up to that offset counts against the global flow control while= the max for the specific stream no longer matter because it is retired and= pending data will not wait for more credits on that stream.

Due to race conditions data might be sent after the RST offset and there= could be multiple RST's. However, if there are multiple RST's they must ag= ree, or it is a protocol violation.

I assume that data sent after the RST offset will be rolled back from gl= obal credits counting, but I'm not entirely sure about this. Perhaps this s= hould be clarified?

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Fixes #945

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  • Change early retransmit timer to 1/8th

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That last comment on RST is incorrect - RST is in the forward direction. It is STOP_SENDING that is the concern here. This is only a guidance so anything received until the sender says that it is over counts toward flow credits.

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For both this and explicit max ack delay, the ability to update would be very useful. I'm not sure if that should be done via an UPDATE_TRANSPORT_PARAMS frame as I proposed for initial stream flow control, or something else.

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----==_mimepart_5b4f81939878e_4cea3f8020abef8419063a-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 11:10:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E340130E8B for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:10:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u9Wc2z94m4DV for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AF15130E8A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:10:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531937432; bh=GBSiB5UXSU6mBK6XjAiF8VlXTWsWRIKKzTSdoqCbTy0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qzSDEUolVIbyUvo8bDoE/vF1nmuGyyTyXY684mV96Nb/V/3yEC5IM/Ugb6SklHgFv LqEaQLMsEgwMet3g0/mR3afRJVby2iw3ib9iwcMGtu0oDP25Y8mPzVDhpl/Nbej/q4 L8/uV9T/h6QJOhSMB9YLTf7Xk8cWOL/fRVGIbb4A= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] hq: Does ignored data/frames cause flow control updates? (#1580) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f8298b0d96_7e783fbd88abef8418068d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 18:10:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f8298b0d96_7e783fbd88abef8418068d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can't change QUIC semantics at the HTTP layer, so any data will require flow control credits. Of course, if the recipient isn't consuming that data, they won't send credit. In other words, for streams that are used for greasing, the recipient isn't likely to consume data, or send flow control credit and that's OK. The point of the greasing is to ensure that the stream can be sent without causing problems, not that it is useful for any particular purpose (and here you seem to be suggesting that it might be useful for padding). If you want a padding stream, make a new type with that purpose. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1580#issuecomment-406024098 ----==_mimepart_5b4f8298b0d96_7e783fbd88abef8418068d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You can't change QUIC semantics at the HTTP layer, so any data will re= quire flow control credits. Of course, if the recipient isn't consuming = that data, they won't send credit. In other words, for streams that are = used for greasing, the recipient isn't likely to consume data, or send fl= ow control credit and that's OK. The point of the greasing is to ensure = that the stream can be sent without causing problems, not that it is usef= ul for any particular purpose (and here you seem to be suggesting that it= might be useful for padding).

If you want a padding stream, make a new type with that purpose.

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@nibanks I don't think driving it from the probe packet necessary is the right way of updating it. That as result of acknowledging a probe does not necessarily result in the PMTU be updated there and then. I rather see other ways.

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----==_mimepart_5b4f837b8d327_1da13fd983ebef7845849-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 11:18:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4FA130F69 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:18:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mcbjWYQKWJXq for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C11BC131004 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:18:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531937917; bh=PCIPeovWkwLsLgkaA49QwdrO5yuWfz6qyCbJxWMzb2s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=flIK4doiyHfirWaCb1nMaPdzofHcYhmj39A8KJp0mZWE3Ed9mXrvDMoBZEim3oCub qXj/yrjdh+0p3R80l0GZrPeIDZijfTNtSPGkPj3r5oUCG/6vehyivXzFULQ1WXipc3 Aydft8mXBEWILf4Z6YC8jvCAQhHn6gVRoVpfOMm8= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] hq: Does ignored data/frames cause flow control updates? (#1580) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f847d208dd_446f3fce058bef801639f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 18:18:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f847d208dd_446f3fce058bef801639f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not suggest, this is what the current text implies (from Section 9). = > HTTP/QUIC can rely on QUIC=E2=80=99s own PADDING frames or employ the r= eserved frame and stream types discussed in Section 4.2.1 and Section 3.3= .1. As Martin suggests, it might be better to define an explicit padding stre= am extension for anyone that actually wants that behaviour (which I think= could be useful). -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1580#issuecomment-406026704= ----==_mimepart_5b4f847d208dd_446f3fce058bef801639f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not suggest, this is what the current text implies (from Section 9= ).

HTTP/QUIC can rely on QUIC=E2=80=99s own PADDING frames or employ the = reserved frame and stream types discussed in Section 4.2.1 and Section 3.= 3.1.

As Martin suggests, it might be better to define an explicit padding s= tream extension for anyone that actually wants that behaviour (which I th= ink could be useful).

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TTL means the TTL field in the IP header. It is a number that routers decrement until it reaches 0, at which point the packet is dropped rather than forwarded.

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I think this is not an issue any more

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Reopened #934.

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sorry this is so old that i forgot why i raised this, will discuss with @ianswett offline and then close properly.

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Could someone explain the mechanics of the TTL proposal?

When a packet arrives, it has a residual TTL (originalTTL - #hops). So t= he proposal is to send a SR packet with the residual TTL and not reset the = TTL to the server's default value?

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More concrete example:

  1. Send packet 1, 2, 3, 4

  2. Ack 1,2,4.
    3 is lost
    largest_sent =3D 4
    largest_acked =3D 4

  3. loss_time is set now to send_time(3) + 5/4 rtt

  4. Send 5
    largest_sent =3D 5
    largest_acked =3D 4

  5. timer for 3 fires
    DetectLostPackets(4) is invoked

since largest_acked !=3D largest_sent

delay_until_lost =3D infinite

so packet 3 is not lost in this round and needs to go through another = round

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Yes, it relies on both sides doing this. If you're mostly worried abo= ut your own infrastructure ping-ponging with itself, this does solve the = issue, though as you said, it could take a while.

Separating out client ports from servers ports is also a potential mit= igation, as long as the client doesn't send these in a given use case.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b4f8d0dc2fa6_44003f9f92cccf60168817-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 12:01:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18E8131253 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A_jCsYGH8aj9 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9015113121E for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:00:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531940451; bh=jOVtaV4OGiMuXaP0iwjUVz87doav6d06lFVPxjayXEY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Q8G33ogXa8A7jaIWvTZedMwCt9LTjQ15G2bbs4MrGMlZtoGIsRt1O/WUn6aoO2lMk 8MAvwPh9rDMocqXQYpoNhjCwzr10bTbLciiA3iDYVs6aMXRty6lKBGVtJF/+9M0v+K /EC58ukYiksMauV16ssO7VBogow2AsbU2Tb85xEY= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f8e6314913_1a293fde4e8bef7c401939"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 19:01:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f8e6314913_1a293fde4e8bef7c401939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was thinking about IP TTL when creating this issue originally, but each reset is new packet origin, so it won't affect TTL, at least not unless you specifically construct the IP header that way, and that isn't very practical for a general purpose implementation. The reset packet could have an explicit TTL - but that would expose it. Actually, doing it at IP level would also somewhat expose it. I still don't understand why the reset needs to be secret. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406039413 ----==_mimepart_5b4f8e6314913_1a293fde4e8bef7c401939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was thinking about IP TTL when creating this issue originally, but e= ach reset is new packet origin, so it won't affect TTL, at least not unle= ss you specifically construct the IP header that way, and that isn't very= practical for a general purpose implementation. The reset packet could h= ave an explicit TTL - but that would expose it. Actually, doing it at IP = level would also somewhat expose it.
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Fixes #935

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----==_mimepart_5b4f9983d707c_3b143fd8bc6ccf582484d-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 12:51:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27928130FEE for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:51:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7wZjJ0-8CA_A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA672130FE1 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:51:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531943500; bh=Xyk8jMJYRAg8T4HnAXs5aq2TIz8NYcVND6TmWSd3DeI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PTNffcGMTP9ujWjLXJSQQFLJ+yihp0sE1T2nmu2xTCbAhizw5PLq4vYqxrM3eypFU 2ggPd+eypsoXdbaWLMznsfZNXLbaEbD+LW+6yGJ4B6tcLo+IzWYN9ujIvYN+bPX0s2 SUvIz1nafNvOjQuZEIKc78uRpXSG5kBn8BzjPaNM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making long header payload length 16bits (#1577) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4f9a4ccd3fb_4bed3f905dcbef80942df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 19:51:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4f9a4ccd3fb_4bed3f905dcbef80942df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I oppose. We currently have a consistency is using varint type for expressing offsets, lengths. Using int16 just for this length type destroys that consistency, thereby makes the design unnecessary complex. >From the encoder side, most people not interested in saving one octet can always use a two-octet encoding. For the decoder side, people can use their varint decoder, that they have been consistently using for decoding lengths. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1577#issuecomment-406053246 ----==_mimepart_5b4f9a4ccd3fb_4bed3f905dcbef80942df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I oppose.

We currently have a consistency is using varint type for expressing of= fsets, lengths. Using int16 just for this length type destroys that consi= stency, thereby makes the design unnecessary complex.

From the encoder side, most people not interested in saving one octet = can always use a two-octet encoding.
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If server rejects 0-RTT, you can never expect an ACK for 0-RTT packets= .

Therefore, if you need a design that ensures you that the datagram del= ivery is fed back to CC, you should coalesce 0-RTT packets with Initial p= ackets, and use the ACKs against Initial as a confirmation of delivery (o= f the datagram).

If you do not care that much, using ACKs carried in 1-RTT packets woul= d work fairly well.

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not unless you specifically construct the IP header that way, and that isn't very practical for a general purpose implementation.

This is a good point.

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I agree with @kazuho, for the same reasons.

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----==_mimepart_5b4f9ec3df236_2aa43fa7acebef7c100237-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 13:58:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0582312F18C for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:58:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7nGbN15zSWTD for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B030712785F for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:58:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531947507; bh=3Dc3US6po0zCk8F98rO7WnwDvz/pKHj2d82qG+xexG0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=j393Zwc9czhx1PR3hbdF8xQ0afjKFAd+cAZZfqil1oz3pIzBxghOoU+imKjzAlLrG b5mMJk/PwiJv1d/ixYL9ol/ZemHmslInejzNrnRJy9YZvDga+nN+xUXDwaa1OijkOO OXjWS9HsVRCCOFIbVhOHgwNEgjM5xJ8QwVnRfXU8= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Go Back to Single Packet Number Space (#1579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4fa9f3c7265_3cb03f949f4ccf5c29872a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:58:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4fa9f3c7265_3cb03f949f4ccf5c29872a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The TLS CRYPTO frames will tell you if 0-RTT was rejected, so you don't need to depend on ACKs in that scenario, correct? I am more interested in the cases where 0-RTT is accepted, but perhaps the tail end of your 0-RTT packets didn't make it. In that case, ACKs in the Handshake encryption level would be most beneficial (I believe). Though I don't think you can do anything if the ACK just includes the first N packet numbers for your 0-RTT packets. It could mean there was loss, or it could mean those other packets just hadn't made it yet, by the time the server responded. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1579#issuecomment-406072239 ----==_mimepart_5b4fa9f3c7265_3cb03f949f4ccf5c29872a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The TLS CRYPTO frames will tell you if 0-RTT was rejected, so you don'= t need to depend on ACKs in that scenario, correct?

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"The control stream" (with the definite article) is mentioned several times in the draft, but is never defined.

The control stream must be the Encoder Stream. Should we s/control stream/Encoder Stream/g?

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----==_mimepart_5b4faccfda682_1e443fe745abef84198336-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 14:16:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7D9131052 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03skHEAWcwZY for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C39F130FAB for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:16:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531948578; bh=PdiOKVnYGJ9NeY2L1c4qz/4QTwD0eVMWCrmOU9+sspM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XYTsl/L++J3RQoljcjF8e0QaL2oj/IX+PJ4ZpfCrAJK04DiobyJZMfmNdhPpFCO17 bzV8+6e8bc/S82R3zcYFDanJamXtOIZz620pNAkOJeXLzJHHGYPVKoUX4iG/EfASmV LBBLg3sF7vqaDM1u1ARF70rhrZ41jdzqfsU9PqUE= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Retry packet (#1498) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4fae2274ca1_1eec3fec838ccf583060da"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 21:16:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4fae2274ca1_1eec3fec838ccf583060da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. Consequently, a valid Retry Instead of requiring the server to use a new CID, why not just make the client use a new random CID for every new token it sends in the Initial packet? That way the client has direct control to be able to differentiate between the possibly Retry responses? And no additional complexity on the server side. Going further, I was thinking during the talks today, if we are going to recommend that initial packet routing not take the client Initial's DCID into account (because it would be an attack surface) then I don't see any reason to support the Retry packet changing the CID at all. The primary reason for adding that support initially was for routing/load balancing; but that seems to be ill advised now. It just adds unnecessary complexity in the client code, IMO. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#pullrequestreview-138442601 ----==_mimepart_5b4fae2274ca1_1eec3fec838ccf583060da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

Instead of requiring the server to use a new CID, why not just make the client use a new random CID for every new token it sends in the Initial packet? That way the client has direct control to be able to differentiate between the possibly Retry responses? And no additional complexity on the server side.

Going further, I was thinking during the talks today, if we are going to recommend that initial packet routing not take the client Initial's DCID into account (because it would be an attack surface) then I don't see any reason to support the Retry packet changing the CID at all. The primary reason for adding that support initially was for routing/load balancing; but that seems to be ill advised now. It just adds unnecessary complexity in the client code, IMO.

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----==_mimepart_5b4fae2274ca1_1eec3fec838ccf583060da-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 14:20:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D9C131060 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e4WABub-SbJR for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D6BE131052 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:20:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531948838; bh=+poTInuaLVU/tijOEsIvDVtOANpKFZWHQGo9iEEBpBI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=il/Ovw9DokT4LPxX8gupaOQU4yqtaLRfIukFYGT7WI4GeH8AihWz5zWxc4ysEWezu LkNW9Nn2iY9Xl8RHo90QtBOXb6Oew1RJhOWLXxlXcVeMMpYIIjxEuJXDxLuLZcMW8Z yTLzXd9KkZRfh8TRGu3x7r24c/op3u6a9XTH3uyw= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making long header payload length 16bits (#1577) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4faf265aca6_35123fd7828ccf50120264"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 21:20:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4faf265aca6_35123fd7828ccf50120264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I disagree that changing the length to a 2-byte field increases complexity. Maybe things aren't quite as consistent, but the code to read the field isn't going to drastically increase in complexity because of it. It would likely get a tad bit simpler too. Additionally, I don't think we need to worry about allowing for the _possibility_ that someone really wants to save a single byte in a long header (only during the handshake). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1577#issuecomment-406078137 ----==_mimepart_5b4faf265aca6_35123fd7828ccf50120264 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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----==_mimepart_5b4faf991daac_1ed03fec838ccf5830253d-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 14:27:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A116E131164 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RF8juq9A0XIR for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F8FF130FAB for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:26:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531949219; bh=oYBWKQcBLZ/4gm9WPnXQku17LYdlccpcl5PQblLlfVw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ELZc3VNsDdyw8Qgz9KL3wHWSAxoOZFJLjp9DsTupcDR+rb0UxLD9pV8nOBGazBgsc ofd38e3OmcAb8VVRt3GisqvTsBqHxAIVX4CWgIE2YqUuUsB47R+ZxfcD4mQw0+48Lz tGeDecrMNJ4+QXYljxrhbCsge0hn5H48EcaGWJNA= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making long header payload length 16bits (#1577) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4fb0a3af87d_4ad23f8f178ccf543201d4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 21:27:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4fb0a3af87d_4ad23f8f178ccf543201d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks, I think that this sort of issue is "six one way, half dozen the other." I think we should avoid making changes of this sort lest there be a good reason. As it stands, it is trivial to both write and read the current varint encoding. With regard to expressible range: For packet sizes larger than 16K, it is permissible to splurge and encode their length using 4 bytes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1577#issuecomment-406079787 ----==_mimepart_5b4fb0a3af87d_4ad23f8f178ccf543201d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@nibanks, I think that this sort = of issue is "six one way, half dozen the other." I think we should avoid= making changes of this sort lest there be a good reason. As it stands, = it is trivial to both write and read the current varint encoding.

With regard to expressible range: For packet sizes larger than 16K, i= t is permissible to splurge and encode their length using 4 bytes.

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Actually, @dtikhonov I think the expre= ssible range maybe the biggest non-bikeshed reason to use a 2-byte field. E= veryone is always using 2 bytes because they build up the contents first (b= ecause they don't know the final length upfront) and then go back and fill = in those two bytes they preallocated essentially. But if a complete solutio= n wants to support maximum 64K UDP payload sizes, that logic gets a lot mor= e complicated. Either they always preallocate 4 bytes or they have to preca= lculate the size, which is hard enough that nearly all implementations don'= t do that already.

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"Successful" processing is mentioned twice in the draft (see State Synchronization). This may raise the question on the part of the reader [1]: As opposed to an unsuccessful processing? Since an unsuccessful decoding of a header block results in a QPACK error, we should drop the "successful" part.

If successful is used to mean "processing the header block to the end so that all references in it can be decremented," we should use "complete," e.g. "header block was processed completely."

My vote would be just to drop "successful" for good.

  1. The mental load required to grok an RFC should be reduced. The fewer questions the reader may ask himself, the better.

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----==_mimepart_5b4fb2aa7dd60_5ef63fb9c86bef887029b4-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 15:31:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBAD1311F5 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:31:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0v6eOmlUC8s for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FA46131209 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:31:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1531953066; bh=jO/6vhk61q0NDBL0I+hHbXTVHiULkhHupGFMWrCXa4c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XdIBKd4lm94sZXcoWxTQm35ppDw/e+F9AN/NKoUx3Wmeh8EknH5HLGSSp+n5ivVhT BDALCyox7q1kcrYb2f04mVH8jHZGBxvBrmMvUW57B93BVP8umwWR3/gKIhT1FUtNka nz3VSp/sCCSgBpcnLOS8AgpPdBf1+PkedPAkHFzA= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making long header payload length 16bits (#1577) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b4fbfaa54206_6283f9451cccf5c166727"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 22:31:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b4fbfaa54206_6283f9451cccf5c166727 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @kazuho and @dtikhonov here. There's value in consistency, and we changed the encoding of values just for the sake of consistency before (last time for the ODCIL field in the retry packet). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1577#issuecomment-406094580 ----==_mimepart_5b4fbfaa54206_6283f9451cccf5c166727 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @kazuho and @dtikhonov here. There's value in consistency, and we changed the encoding of values just for the sake of consistency before (last time for the ODCIL field in the retry packet).

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@nibanks, you are making a good point. I withdraw my objection.

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@nibanks That argument stands for= many other fields. Initial.token_len, Stream.length, ... There are some = fields that never becomes greater than 32-bits (i.e. ACK block size).

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We can try to have different types for based on each of the requiremen= ts. However that causes pain, because we cannot reuse code. That was the = pain we had, until we introduced variable integers in #877.

I do not think we need to revert that to reopen tons of issues.

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@siyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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+   OnRetransmissionTimeoutVerified(packet_number)

i think OnPacketAcked() needs to be changed as well too pass in largest_sent packet right?

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I'd like to stick with the varint heavy design for QUIC v1. If it turns out to be a pain in practice, let's reconsider for v2.

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this looks good to me

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

@nibanks

Instead of requiring the server to use a new CID, why not just make the client use a new random CID for every new token it sends in the Initial packet?

The clients source SCID must be new. The clients original DCID is always new and random in an initial packet. Only the source is reflected back by the server. this is why it must be new. The alternative would be to have a separate nonce in the handshake, separate from SCID, which is what I suggest.

On the going further: The server must set is own SCID - otherwise the server is forced to use a client chosen SCID which is not only a load balancer issue and it also goes against the point of a retry. A retry is a redirect to another server, not try again until you get lucky, although that can also be implemented if the server randomizes its SCID.

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I don't think that token handling is all that difficult here. The token doesn't need to be treated any differently than a second Retry: the client replaces the token it has with the token from Retry.

Some text might be necessary though.

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When a packet arrives, it has a residual TTL (originalTTL - #hops). So= the proposal is to send a SR packet with the residual TTL and not reset = the TTL to the server's default value?

Yes, though I would act as a router and decrement.

that isn't very practical for a general purpose implementation.

If you can't set TTL, or reduce its size, the recommendation would be = to not send the packet.

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One detailed point is that it seems best to me to combine these two fr= ames into one. If you're asking for new CIDs, you're probably retiring s= ome anyway.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

@mikkelfj if the client uses a new SCID then it would be considered an entirely new connection, and might elicit another Retry. I am talking about removing the requirement from the server in generating new random CID, and instead have the client generate a new random DCID for each try.

Also, on the going further, I am only talking about Retry. After that, in the handshake the server can/will change the CID to whatever it wants.

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that isn't very practical for a general purpose implementation.

If you can't set TTL, or reduce its size, the recommendation would be = to not send the packet.

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A short lived time wait list with exponential backoff is what I plan to = deploy. Of course, I already have that, so conveniently it fixes this case= .

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Thanks Praveen, when I talked to Neal, it sounded like the top two con= cerns about MAD for TCP were deployability related.

The third was an inability to update the value later in the connection= if the initial value was too large or too small. I think that's still a= n issue with the proposal to put it in transport params. I'm a fan of ad= ding an UPDATE_TRANSPORT_PARAMS frame to fix this and a few other cases w= e'd like to update values, but I can imagine other solutions.

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Maintaining state for 5-tuples on which a stateless reset was sent is probably the best solution, yes. That would be a valid alternative to this. Documenting that in the form of (maintain state || (reduce size || reduce TTL)) seems reasonable.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

There is nothing wrong with getting a new retry, the problem is stopping when too many happen. If the client changes SCID each time, it can stop after 1-3 retries - but it helps if it can know that all retries are from the same chain. I think a nonce is better for this.

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

The client should not change its SCID each time. See #1474 and the associated PR #1491.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

Which is why I think a nonce works better

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

The client's DCID is essentially the nonce, and it will always be random 8 bytes for each Retry. I am still unclear why you think that's not enough.

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This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. Consequently, a valid Retry The clients original DCID disappears once it reaches the server. Since the server sets its own SCID and the client is not allowed to change its SCID, the context is lost. While I agree that not changing SCID is a good thing, I wondered why that was made a requirement before solving this loss of context here. Your proposal to modify servers SCID seems like a workaround for the fundamental problem that some nonce is required. But I dont' recall all the concerns related to this right now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r203766499 ----==_mimepart_5b50aad632647_4ba83fac2f6bef84146338 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

The clients original DCID disappears once it reaches the server. Since the server sets its own SCID and the client is not allowed to change its SCID, the context is lost.
While I agree that not changing SCID is a good thing, I wondered why that was made a requirement before solving this loss of context here.
Your proposal to modify servers SCID seems like a workaround for the fundamental problem that some nonce is required. But I dont' recall all the concerns related to this right now.

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----==_mimepart_5b50aad632647_4ba83fac2f6bef84146338-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 08:20:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA14130DC4 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OFevmWGLrRCV for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93E06130D7A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532013646; bh=ajuF1GqwdnkghK6F7OZ/e60C0wn05dgOSXp7xKthnc0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nLIL9jgT8WRzY6p3ITN9b5MkBxGbeRkhKRfRaVSIUuHXab/fukeluNfnQtLt+hD7D 0fQFWvK4+mTXp8YhSNmiQcwA/+Dg3Cu30wJdHI172gX+8beCa0pGJec4SI5GMGkrzc X4LwaNjauWtI/GrIqS5n/7jApPwqQuxKPu7wYTYI= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Retry packet (#1498) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b50ac4edde7e_25cf3fdd904ccf5469291"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:20:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b50ac4edde7e_25cf3fdd904ccf5469291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. Consequently, a valid Retry I am considering only the Retry scenario right now. During the handshake, after the Retry, the server has the opportunity to change its SCID once again (independent of if it was changed during Retry). I am trying to make two points: 1. I don't see any reason for the server to generate a new, random SCID (client's DCID) with Retry. The client itself can handle creating a new random DCID when it retries. 2. Since we are going to recommend NOT load balancing off the client's initial SCID, then there is no reason to use Retry (for load balancing purposes) to change the CID at all. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r203768707 ----==_mimepart_5b50ac4edde7e_25cf3fdd904ccf5469291 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

I am considering only the Retry scenario right now. During the handshake, after the Retry, the server has the opportunity to change its SCID once again (independent of if it was changed during Retry). I am trying to make two points:

  1. I don't see any reason for the server to generate a new, random SCID (client's DCID) with Retry. The client itself can handle creating a new random DCID when it retries.
  2. Since we are going to recommend NOT load balancing off the client's initial SCID, then there is no reason to use Retry (for load balancing purposes) to change the CID at all.

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Yes, let's write up an extension draft. I'm happy to work with you Lucas.

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One detailed point is that it seems best to me to combine these two fr= ames into one. If you're asking for new CIDs, you're probably retiring so= me anyway.

I agree. In my view, the logic could be as simple as follows:

  • during the handshake, the endpoints negotiate the maximum number spar= e CIDs to be used for the given connection
  • the endpoints will try to provide the negotiated amount of spare CIDs= to the peers (i.e., after handshake an endpoint sends max_spare-1<= /code> CIDs to peers, then send additional ones as it notices a CID getti= ng retired)
  • a CID that both peers know that it is has been used will be retired b= y an expiration timer
  • a CID that an endpoint has used but that peer might not have seen wil= l be explicitly retired by a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID
  • we could have CONNECTION_ID_BLOCKED frame

Instead of using a timer, we could always explicitly signal the retire= ment using the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.

As you can see, the design is analogous to how we handle streams. It c= aps the maximum amount of CIDs that the endpoints need to remember.

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(#1507) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b50c4433d639_6fd53f8082cccf583425f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3B3D0qY1HZsRTHTrKZMEvBbLFntHV9OAoTCi MihPU0T6ayeilBH8kriThFYgOSFPP0o2Ba8i3uUrQkuKy8BdkoCKU9c8rcIRjQn3HdOTMmuwjeiEzF iTDnkxadPBVBy4h8fNnQmi7nt8MYtg1IysAlE2MCGXYC/I6wP3jzNKNMM5BLUk3SsLWCIt0SXAOtIf o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 17:03:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b50c4433d639_6fd53f8082cccf583425f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't think that token handling is all that difficult here. One of the issues here is that an on-path or a man-on-the-side attacker can mount a cut-and-paste attack that replaces token with a different value. Let me explain one possible attack, that happens in following steps: 1. attacker connects to the server and obtains a token that says "server-config=A" 2. client connects to the server and obtains a NST and a token that says "server-config=B". At this 3. client tries to reconnect to the server using the NST and the token obtained in step 2 4. an attacker enforces a retry by sending a token obtained in step 1 At this point, client believes that it can send 0-RTT packets based on the negotiated settings in step 2, which is "server-config=B". The server would assume that the 0-RTT packets that it will receive is based on "server-config=C". I am not sure how scary it sounds right now, however it could become a practical concern when we start adding extension frames to QUIC. To avoid this type of attack, the server needs to do something like: * store the server settings in the session ticket rather than the token. TLS stacks will need to provide an interface for that (if they do not provide one yet), or * have a different STEK for every server-config, so that resumption will fail if the client provides tries to resume with a PSK that is not bound to the server-config found in the token -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1507#issuecomment-406347056 ----==_mimepart_5b50c4433d639_6fd53f8082cccf583425f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't think that token handling is all that difficult here.

One of the issues here is that an on-path or a man-on-the-side attacker = can mount a cut-and-paste attack that replaces token with a different value= .

Let me explain one possible attack, that happens in following steps:

  1. attacker connects to the server and obtains a token that says "server-c= onfig=3DA"
  2. client connects to the server and obtains a NST and a token that says "= server-config=3DB". At this
  3. client tries to reconnect to the server using the NST and the token obt= ained in step 2
  4. an attacker enforces a retry by sending a token obtained in step 1

At this point, client believes that it can send 0-RTT packets based on t= he negotiated settings in step 2, which is "server-config=3DB". The server = would assume that the 0-RTT packets that it will receive is based on "serve= r-config=3DC".

I am not sure how scary it sounds right now, however it could become a p= ractical concern when we start adding extension frames to QUIC.

To avoid this type of attack, the server needs to do something like:

  • store the server settings in the session ticket rather than the token. = TLS stacks will need to provide an interface for that (if they do not provi= de one yet), or
  • have a different STEK for every server-config, so that resumption will = fail if the client provides tries to resume with a PSK that is not bound to= the server-config found in the token

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= ----==_mimepart_5b50c4433d639_6fd53f8082cccf583425f-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 10:42:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF75130DE4 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:42:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W1SeDYBkZ8jc for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A593B120049 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:42:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532022167; bh=QAvETLYUeZIP226CMzjSawKv4op9rNuyYbJSErxMFYc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=18ogyMRw9tr71hNoCc+8+xJbCaMPosT/seRpHWLp/i4xByV6eNLD667x8XJCqo43w Ed7uPcVuzUmAex3Ell/q0dbvUg6Pklzt+qUBcGB542/G3ZVGoNCvqNTfp4MQKVq7qY Z5htC5guvRD0WA4BBZjcglI2s1zWuop0Dk8UXdNg= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] qpack: control stream is not defined (#1583) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b50cd97e3f0_6d113f9ad9eccf581495c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 17:42:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b50cd97e3f0_6d113f9ad9eccf581495c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, let's replace references to control stream with the encoder or decoder stream as appropriate. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1583#issuecomment-406358387 ----==_mimepart_5b50cd97e3f0_6d113f9ad9eccf581495c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, let's replace references to control stream with the encoder or decoder stream as appropriate.

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I think I prefer complete/completely to nothing at all. Do you think saying "Completed processing of a header block" increases mental load? Just saying "processing of a header block" might mean that processing has started.

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I agree, it is important to indicate completion.

One alternative to using the word "complete" and its variants is to use a perfect tense:

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The texts should not talk about supporting ECN because all QUIC endpoints support it. An endpoint that decides to not send ECT marked packets (for what every reason) still needs to send feedback. Even if the receiver cannot access the IP codepoint it will never see one and never send an ECN-ACK frame (but still supoort it).

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Instances of that text that exist should only exist with respect to support on the path. If you could point out specific instances, then we could fix this more easily.

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----==_mimepart_5b51150c1964_483b3ff95e6ccf5482866-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 19:18:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CA8130EED for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:18:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txKF-wzCZNqN for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CCAB130ECD for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:18:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532053094; bh=b3KBcfDmox5xnIzskIqoqh09LW1SGkn7qcdF4VvVcE8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nG3nXqgG2+KnufLxjeQYCvJpBj3iK4aQntb2fpXJz2fnzWn2T4Camvo9nBMWjAIYb vm+T1QI4697d2U3wgNc/rm+tE50oLbtDZ8xXoIp1u3BMdmgXPWUIDAH3wKkh0M9Kc8 Nq05Kf7BY+JPRkTp3ewbRSKA2l5w+B5OPiG0PNt8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b514666a354e_1e8d3fa611cccf585125c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 02:18:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b514666a354e_1e8d3fa611cccf585125c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A simpler idea I just thought of was making the stateless reset < SOME_SIZE and not responding with a stateless reset unless the payload was > SOME_SIZE. Given ACK-only packets are relatively common, particularly in response to a large packet, possibly we could advise generating an ACK-only sized packet and sending that in response, with a constraint it must be less than whatever the magic size is. I think this completely fixes the issue, assuming it's workable in practice. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406468870 ----==_mimepart_5b514666a354e_1e8d3fa611cccf585125c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A simpler idea I just thought of was making the stateless reset < S= OME_SIZE and not responding with a stateless reset unless the payload was= > SOME_SIZE.

Given ACK-only packets are relatively common, particularly in response= to a large packet, possibly we could advise generating an ACK-only sized= packet and sending that in response, with a constraint it must be less t= han whatever the magic size is.

I think this completely fixes the issue, assuming it's workable in pra= ctice.

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"control stream" is not defined and in all instances it was used to refer to the Encoder Stream.

Fixes issue #1583.

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Change phrasing to use clearer verbiage.

Fixes issue #1586.

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----==_mimepart_5b5150141dd55_74aa3f9da56ccf50105177-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 20:30:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7D9130E6E for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:30:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ad-9EHO-h1Ll for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B5551277D2 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:30:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532057403; bh=2baCAtF5SRb8Rq60SYZWaWVucyPs0Ermbf1TEdRlkBc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HO0Wq4SrlLxlQBRejK52L1B7cXHdTyIq88TprszxSTnwe7rKMJHQrY/nX0fmOGckw I45QR82e35TucQB1UMbE9qTMHhcP4zm7pyG/pX7hyF0B6Sb5IzCunkfq26tYwYGF+q a1+ORdm5FNpk/yBgmuUM+DNHt+w8zDQmECKVXYqM= From: Masaori Koshiba Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add an appendix containing test vectors for "Initial". (#1573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b51573bc77d_53a33fc9d34ccf5c114715"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: masaori335 X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 03:30:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b51573bc77d_53a33fc9d34ccf5c114715 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried @ekr's test vector on the list and this test vector. My code passed with ekr's test vector, but failed with this test vector. I got below values. ("initial secret" is same, but others are not same) ``` initial secret : a572b0245af1eddf5c61c6e3f7f9304ca66bfb4caaf76567d5cb8dd1dc4e820b client in secret: 9f536457f32a1e0ae864bcb3caf1235110630e1d1fb33835bd054170f99bf7dc key: f2928f2614ad6c20b9bd008e9c89631c iv: ab950b0198637978cf44aab9 pn: 68c3f64e2d6634412b8e3294628d76f1 server in secret: b087dcd7478dda8a858fbf3d605c888586c0a3a9875423ad4f114f0ba38e5a2e key: f56817d0fc595cfc0a2b0bcfb18735ec iv: 3205035a3c937c902ee4f4d6 pn: a313c86d1373ecbccb3294b14974226c ``` I doubt that there is a bug around `HKDF-Expand-Label` implementation. Because the "info" parameter of `HKDF-Expand` is changed in draft-13. If understand correctly, it's `HkdfLabel` (defined in TLS 1.3) and it has `context<0..255>` field. Without the context field, I got exact same values of this test vector. QUIC draft-12 ``` struct { uint16 length = Length; opaque label<6..255> = "QUIC " + Label; } QhkdfExpandInfo; ``` TLS 1.3 (QUIC draft-13) ``` struct { uint16 length = Length; opaque label<7..255> = "tls13 " + Label; opaque context<0..255> = Context; } HkdfLabel; ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1573#issuecomment-406478811 ----==_mimepart_5b51573bc77d_53a33fc9d34ccf5c114715 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I tried @ekr's test vector on the list= and this test vector. My code passed with ekr's test vector, but failed = with this test vector.
I got below values. ("initial secret" is same, but others are not same) 

initial secret : a572b0245af1eddf5c61c6e3f7f9304ca66bfb4caaf76=
567d5cb8dd1dc4e820b

client in secret: 9f536457f32a1e0ae864bcb3caf1235110630e1d1fb33835bd05417=
0f99bf7dc
key: f2928f2614ad6c20b9bd008e9c89631c
iv: ab950b0198637978cf44aab9
pn: 68c3f64e2d6634412b8e3294628d76f1

server in secret: b087dcd7478dda8a858fbf3d605c888586c0a3a9875423ad4f114f0=
ba38e5a2e
key: f56817d0fc595cfc0a2b0bcfb18735ec
iv: 3205035a3c937c902ee4f4d6
pn: a313c86d1373ecbccb3294b14974226c

I doubt that there is a bug around HKDF-Expand-Label impl= ementation. Because the "info" parameter of HKDF-Expand is c= hanged in draft-13. If understand correctly, it's HkdfLabel = (defined in TLS 1.3) and it has context<0..255> field.= Without the context field, I got exact same values of this test vector.<= /p>

QUIC draft-12

struct {
    uint16 length =3D Length;
    opaque label<6..255> =3D "QUIC " + Label;
} QhkdfExpandInfo;

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That makes sense, thanks for testing. I can try to get @ekr's vectors into this PR and include the PNE vectors

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@ianswett I think you missed the transport doc (migration section)

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  • Remove alarm references from the transport doc.

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Should be done now in PR #1590

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@ianswett Doesn't that go against the principle to "- to the extent possible - indistinguishable from a regular packet"?

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----==_mimepart_5b51c721cac0c_77743ff1198be620128999-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 07:52:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98453131027 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 07:52:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0vdsp9N2sAEE for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26292129619 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 07:52:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532098343; bh=3aQi39FSKkVGGvBDnpN/jYye5PiMUgEFYhtuGUNgIMU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pa+VlsDNX8XcSOoOW6mfGN0eDKU8qo/+E6qZBQXXHvOCAzq6je0lUArGRkxMQt3ga JKdYg+DeKUFvz/PFIzkTMFqDi/KZZRF4/GDSwwbgQsbW9IqZdpTINRh4H+Ku8OGlz8 R9PPqu/+e9nHBwsV5DVnSWIafnG3WCDGe9FcPzMY= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Packet Number Space (#1591) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b51f727c563b_703d3f89f2abe620151185"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:52:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b51f727c563b_703d3f89f2abe620151185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1579 (see for more details on the problem). - Moves back to a single packet number space across all encryption levels. - Allows for a packet to be acknowledged in a greater than or equal encryption level. - Initial packets cannot carry ACK frames, and therefore must be acknowledged in Handshake (or greater) encryption level. - Handshake packets can acknowledge 0-RTT packets. With these design changes, implementations do not have to track 3 separate packet number spaces (and all the overhead that goes with it). The number of QUIC packets (not UDP datagrams) required to be sent during the handshake is reduced (see Example Handshake Flows section). There is no Initial packet ACK spoofing since they must be acknowledged in a higher encryption level. 0-RTT packets can be acknowledged a bit quicker in the handshake process by using the Handshake encryption level; generally the first server ACK block will be able to ACK all Initial and 0-RTT packets it has received in one atomic operation. Also makes sure #1018 and #1413 don't regress and are still solved. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1591 -- Commit Summary -- * Single Packet Number Space * Finish up changes -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (32) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (28) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (139) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1591.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1591.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1591 ----==_mimepart_5b51f727c563b_703d3f89f2abe620151185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1579 (see for more details on the problem).

  • Moves back to a single packet number space across all encryption levels.
  • Allows for a packet to be acknowledged in a greater than or equal encryption level.
  • Initial packets cannot carry ACK frames, and therefore must be acknowledged in Handshake (or greater) encryption level.
  • Handshake packets can acknowledge 0-RTT packets.

With these design changes, implementations do not have to track 3 separate packet number spaces (and all the overhead that goes with it). The number of QUIC packets (not UDP datagrams) required to be sent during the handshake is reduced (see Example Handshake Flows section). There is no Initial packet ACK spoofing since they must be acknowledged in a higher encryption level. 0-RTT packets can be acknowledged a bit quicker in the handshake process by using the Handshake encryption level; generally the first server ACK block will be able to ACK all Initial and 0-RTT packets it has received in one atomic operation.

Also makes sure #1018 and #1413 don't regress and are still solved.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1591

Commit Summary

  • Single Packet Number Space
  • Finish up changes

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b520bf0b378c_24112b091263dc101054c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 16:21:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b520bf0b378c_24112b091263dc101054c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: d909667d04154678ce7c2c0ec86b2f2e022aea2f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d909667d04154678ce7c2c0ec86b2f2e022aea2f Author: Rui Paulo Date: 2018-07-19 (Thu, 19 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove alarm references from the transport doc. 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Merged #1590.

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----==_mimepart_5b520bf393209_673c3ff8e82be6185269e-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 09:24:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754B41310C4 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 09:24:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JSO9t-MBjZFR for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A716131138 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 09:24:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532103885; bh=1YG/hR52tHA6gsg5CkceHIzo+SRd1RNJihW9DWQzhV4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S619tt429vLYBVOUzvU/jdhKXIq/WgbJID7cwIHPPdx0+IBk+kOcRlZVXa/qmy3GT +phnWTtCbnFk6CTaNV2CtLoEVyf0fOmFzMES8RrDtlyQagRxREzqTeDSvNrstWJq/k ckXtU6KwJnbJZnJ1mxfR/K7X7QS0G5zUDRoVKk80= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b520ccd7a1aa_1e993fc6528be61c109716"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 16:24:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b520ccd7a1aa_1e993fc6528be61c109716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, ACK-only packets are generally too small. In the extreme case, an ACK frame is only 4 octets, leading to a minimum-sized ACK-only packet that is a mere 22 octets. Coincidentally, that's the minimum size of just the connection ID part of a stateless reset. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406652220 ----==_mimepart_5b520ccd7a1aa_1e993fc6528be61c109716 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also, ACK-only packets are generally too small. In the extreme case, an ACK frame is only 4 octets, leading to a minimum-sized ACK-only packet that is a mere 22 octets. Coincidentally, that's the minimum size of just the connection ID part of a stateless reset.

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@MikeBishop I'm interested in your view because you wrote the (IMO) offending text. I don't want to flog a dead horse if others think this is a non-issue.

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Yes, if the application closes a stream for read, the transport can discard that data, and should treat it as equivalent (for flow control purposes) to the entire payload having been consumed.

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So perhaps my understanding of ignoring is misaligned. I'd write a cli= ent that doesn't close a read stream (for unidirectional reserved streams= ) and just carry on telling the transport layer I processed the data when= in fact I did nothing with it. From transport layer perspective I suppos= e I handled it..

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= ----==_mimepart_5b521b9feffb0_6cd23fcf92ebe6185393a9-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 10:31:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590C3130F74 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:31:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GehSAGxVVq-I for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D343613106F for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:31:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532107885; bh=CfOxiAWRXGF5mEfEGBNvX+Gpe9WbeaqZheiCg5I4Csw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FLZVmWHcAy9UrHDxTQuPrToT9FhOWSoskSKKgejY+6AtmKexC5pv33Wrjahgs+Sep gXDHAMfNwb9Qk5aJalS58jXHhBkBPMebqC45jRzCtAKllQUo/aMSQG52Xz+KnFwkRd xyhlSgoug9va00CrEGKfc4ZSwP8sJQEE3vwFvXsk= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b521c6d25a7b_a443f7eb06be61c17158e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:31:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b521c6d25a7b_a443f7eb06be61c17158e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently, the spec states: > There is a separate flow of cryptographic handshake data in each encryption level, each of which starts at an offset of 0. This implies that each encryption level is treated as a separate CRYPTO stream of data. This means you must track set of bytes in each encryption level (Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake and 1-RTT) as a separate stream and manage them accordingly; separate outstanding sent byte ranges, recovery ranges, acked ranges. Additionally, it makes it a little unclear where one 'stream' stops and another 'starts'. For instance, in the 0-RTT case, the client (is supposed to) sends EOED with 0-RTT key, immediately followed by (ideally in the same UDP datagram, but not required) FIN with the Handshake key. If the 0-RTT EOED is lost, but the FIN isn't it could look like the client just skipped EOED. Instead, if they were all in the same stream, with FIN's offset starting where EOED left off, it would be easier to track this. For these reasons, I propose each CRYPTO stream in each encryption level's offset starts where the previous level stopped. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592 ----==_mimepart_5b521c6d25a7b_a443f7eb06be61c17158e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Currently, the spec states:

There is a separate flow of cryptographic handshake data in each encryption level, each of which starts at an offset of 0. This implies that each encryption level is treated as a separate CRYPTO stream of data.

This means you must track set of bytes in each encryption level (Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake and 1-RTT) as a separate stream and manage them accordingly; separate outstanding sent byte ranges, recovery ranges, acked ranges.

Additionally, it makes it a little unclear where one 'stream' stops and another 'starts'. For instance, in the 0-RTT case, the client (is supposed to) sends EOED with 0-RTT key, immediately followed by (ideally in the same UDP datagram, but not required) FIN with the Handshake key. If the 0-RTT EOED is lost, but the FIN isn't it could look like the client just skipped EOED. Instead, if they were all in the same stream, with FIN's offset starting where EOED left off, it would be easier to track this.

For these reasons, I propose each CRYPTO stream in each encryption level's offset starts where the previous level stopped.

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----==_mimepart_5b521c6d25a7b_a443f7eb06be61c17158e-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 10:43:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1B81310A6 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mQZYc9MLwLzz for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1CD131070 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:42:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532108579; bh=isaf/H+H1z5RiVzYl5NDIQWFi6xx7k9ou8bXA4MT0WI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Zxvc+UVqHvznAnO/e2Q0NaerfwMvoFC/Ydr4YCY2jik5S0h+pCujyReHB4GZtghNE ckubnRDEJkcpvdQ1sCJrPP7p+vFq+6bRPXXh4gF1csXnhIfPUZDynZ8GJ8OWXpVcO3 2ySHZzysC0F06auYMPAb6WcmJhEBDs2ulT8xpev0= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix: replace "control stream" with "Encoder Stream" (#1588) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b521f23db992_1cdd3feeb84be628348346"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:43:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b521f23db992_1cdd3feeb84be628348346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ``` [dmitri@ubuntu-dmitri base-drafts]$ grep '[Ee]ncoder [Ss]tream' draft-ietf-quic-qpack.txt 5.2. QPACK Encoder Stream . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 Entries are added by instructions on the Encoder Stream (see while interpreting instructions on the encoder stream. o The encoder stream is a unidirectional stream of type "0x48" All table updates occur on the encoder stream. Request streams and 5.2. QPACK Encoder Stream The contents of the encoder stream are an unframed sequence of the | QPACK Encoder Stream | 0x48 | Section 5 | Both | o Removed framing from encoder stream (#1361,#1467) ``` Outside of tables and headers, _Encoder Stream_ is used once, while _encoder stream_ is used three times. We should pick one and go with it. I, too, think that Encoder Stream looks odd (as this is not XVIII century), so I'd vote for the lowercase version. P.S. Why does not GitHub allow one to insert polls... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1588#issuecomment-406674963 ----==_mimepart_5b521f23db992_1cdd3feeb84be628348346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
[dmitri@ubuntu-dmitri base-drafts]$ grep '[Ee]ncoder [Ss]tream=
' draft-ietf-quic-qpack.txt
     5.2.  QPACK Encoder Stream  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11
   Entries are added by instructions on the Encoder Stream (see
   while interpreting instructions on the encoder stream.
   o  The encoder stream is a unidirectional stream of type "0x48"
   All table updates occur on the encoder stream.  Request streams and
5.2.  QPACK Encoder Stream
   The contents of the encoder stream are an unframed sequence of the
         | QPACK Encoder Stream | 0x48 | Section 5     | Both   |
   o  Removed framing from encoder stream (#1361,#1467)

Outside of tables and headers, Encoder Stream is used once, w= hile encoder stream is used three times. We should pick one and= go with it. I, too, think that Encoder Stream looks odd (as this is not= XVIII century), so I'd vote for the lowercase version.

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Wouldn=E2=80=99t that be equivalent to going back to a single CRYPTO s= tream, which changes encryption levels at various offsets?
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I wouldn't say we had exactly that, as now we are much more explicit with encryption level (as there are 4 different ones). Why do you say that was a pain point? I feel that is a much cleaner and explicit design to implement.

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----==_mimepart_5b523021c500a_251e3faee76d45b8189597-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 12:01:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0D61312A3 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:01:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fY8QaOAf_2ha for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD81A1312BD for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:01:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532113278; bh=uZm79fZ5X+2EDZkdMY90R1j6eu0+V9+CX3DsO+8RHNo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tIYugMuEfYG4As7Os7vLPKK3d8ZlUIr3LdQvx8ZIPocJDWG58LrBy9WWricZU+DDz /LCzCyl/CY3yqnSqooAj41+D1hdFOhkTfMnBB19F6xdWqyn2n7PrPfkI/Ge1+FeVSv uPVli6JXXvLH/s5SAYBjeCyWQBRgtO3se65rCRFw= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b52317ed905d_6e33fe40fabe61c290031"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:01:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b52317ed905d_6e33fe40fabe61c290031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ACK-only packets are very common, typically the second most common packets after full-sized packets. If we think 0 length server to client CIDs are the most common, maybe we should use those for stateless resets from server to client. If we think 8 bytes are common from client to server, then 8 + typical ACK length? This also has the perk that the stateless reset is smaller. That being said, I'm happy with not fully stateless resets with exponential backoff, but I think this is also plausible. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406697836 ----==_mimepart_5b52317ed905d_6e33fe40fabe61c290031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ACK-only packets are very common, typically the second most common pac= kets after full-sized packets.

If we think 0 length server to client CIDs are the most common, maybe = we should use those for stateless resets from server to client. If we th= ink 8 bytes are common from client to server, then 8 + typical ACK length= ?

This also has the perk that the stateless reset is smaller. That bein= g said, I'm happy with not fully stateless resets with exponential backof= f, but I think this is also plausible.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b52317ed905d_6e33fe40fabe61c290031-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 12:06:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB33130EEE for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:06:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v9N_wLL-Ivnu for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BAB0130F6A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:06:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532113606; bh=lywxYNxw3KDpJzjS2GVo3AH3lFIqA9nwDi5Ot01u1Ws=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iCA/dJlDKn7SHbnOm/iF1/TR5t6i+PvjxvDdJr5tBFmro0lLgzLvmpLR+CKBkFOhb UxPtq3hteCa+tIk4qcxdgtfQ0pic4v3BCyklapH3HOBnMSOj9B2RY3RTokHh8jM72L KQyR6rgS721aa1Q889P6ZJkQupRJbrULqOaEhP0c= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5232c66c7db_67f33fb1102be6241109ee"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:06:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5232c66c7db_67f33fb1102be6241109ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the single stream approach implemented today, and it's ugly on the send side, because I need a very weird datastructure to determine what was sent at what encryption level and make sure there's no cross-encryption level bundling/etc. With a stream per level, it's much clearer what's going on, and I can re-use most of the standard stream code. I need to actually implement this, so maybe there are some issues I'm not anticipating, but I know the single stream approach is ugly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406699167 ----==_mimepart_5b5232c66c7db_67f33fb1102be6241109ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have the single stream approach implemented today, and it's ugly on = the send side, because I need a very weird datastructure to determine wha= t was sent at what encryption level and make sure there's no cross-encryp= tion level bundling/etc.

With a stream per level, it's much clearer what's going on, and I can = re-use most of the standard stream code. I need to actually implement th= is, so maybe there are some issues I'm not anticipating, but I know the s= ingle stream approach is ugly.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5232c66c7db_67f33fb1102be6241109ee-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 12:09:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913A8130E32 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:09:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d4Zy8GutPus1 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10B11130DCE for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:09:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532113742; bh=QZ2q3vZAGCaMhuGhhoyOPOFdKrYLJogoLX0DPopjLCk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BVh67vtoJKKTNfWFJ3C/SK0YFD8RsASLqUGO/8EGn6CZE+7Fun3zQoK1a0RylLLuZ CfXycSKTpn4rsMcs9gg2mCR9YFTZrmyuXQyKYtl1O3eI+Dwqm5nHnR0e0GFQaUEC5F qFA+G+kfgpC5UobVubaylvy6Clj6ucVzPwJdcCsg= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b52334e2a935_3e93fbfdbed45c419074f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:09:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b52334e2a935_3e93fbfdbed45c419074f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was thinking through the ACK scenario earlier - there are two points: 1. ACKS eventually die because they are generated in response to traffic that does not arrive (unless routing is seriously messed up) 2. There can a backlog ACK's before they die out, and perhaps RESET need to act on these timely. But there are also ping frames and small message updates like player status in games or IoT temperature measurements. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406699660 ----==_mimepart_5b52334e2a935_3e93fbfdbed45c419074f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was thinking through the ACK scenario earlier - there are two points= :

  1. ACKS eventually die because they are generated in response to traffic= that does not arrive (unless routing is seriously messed up)
  2. There can a backlog ACK's before they die out, and perhaps RESET need= to act on these timely.

But there are also ping frames and small message updates like player s= tatus in games or IoT temperature measurements.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b52334e2a935_3e93fbfdbed45c419074f-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 12:10:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D153F130EEE for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:10:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id va61eeTugsTf for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59005130E32 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:10:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532113851; bh=6NfjvLvs9r07gvI+YYSiRlclhPWMDZT/JQAfK2yHtLU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ohCftWJzkCiRTlzjhbviyIOgZrpAY7WZH6jPEMK5NQooqLm6Hw9TIogHHPhXCHgz6 gmctjGP8c7PG+eggOdOxLyC8VtD1FL0wqjAPFkdOL64s8QXM7Zps66ZGGfb3+xyT/n WTY1ghPI4B3IFiiJ1YMp7taoZ+g4PtGeo2+z8EDc= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5233bbac044_1b7b3ff8a12be62817811f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:10:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5233bbac044_1b7b3ff8a12be62817811f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Using a standard stream for this will bring in 4 times the overhead. What is your FC limit for each stream? What tracking variables do you store for each? Having one stream with 4 offsets (Initial is implicitly offset 0) is a much more efficient design, IMO. I also have the single stream approach implemented (because that's what I thought we were supposed to do, before I reread the spec) and I have a much simpler implementation that using 4 different streams. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406700137 ----==_mimepart_5b5233bbac044_1b7b3ff8a12be62817811f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Using a standard stream for this will bring in 4 times the overhead. W= hat is your FC limit for each stream? What tracking variables do you stor= e for each? Having one stream with 4 offsets (Initial is implicitly offse= t 0) is a much more efficient design, IMO. I also have the single stream = approach implemented (because that's what I thought we were supposed to = do, before I reread the spec) and I have a much simpler implementation th= at using 4 different streams.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5233bbac044_1b7b3ff8a12be62817811f-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 12:26:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBE7130DFC for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:26:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m-fSyjXgEbS9 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E5A1292F1 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:26:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532114767; bh=toH1o1sDpd0sbByRX5pbCzfq1m5CEC2mGi7+lBhT+lo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hReMJv5dJDVKbODwqhQla6KDO4Z3FrDhEXcjiKr36f/5qX6E5NAtSId0NxYvRDLfx +1U5Sb/vHgnvM3GRgOqfw38vqXvqDvEVYQEOOwd0lnc+p07pzo83a8+DFvYoHT2KOc Ehc1CcT+fwyzcIVL2HEpP32XvxHe8EA9QcSD15Sk= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b52374f91c37_42d13f9be96be6201092e6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:26:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b52374f91c37_42d13f9be96be6201092e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IMHO, being able to reuse the existing stream code (including STREAM fram= e reassembly etc.) is the one of most important advantage of this change.= Special-casing stream 0 to work with changing encryption levels required= a significant amount of additional code. I=E2=80=99m not worried about the overhead of this at all, after all, it=E2= =80=99s just 4 streams, and you can remove them after the handshake compl= etes (some of them even earlier, if you want to take optimizations to the= extreme). = -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406703559= ----==_mimepart_5b52374f91c37_42d13f9be96be6201092e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

IMHO, being able to reuse the existing stream code (including STREAM f= rame reassembly etc.) is the one of most important advantage of this chan= ge. Special-casing stream 0 to work with changing encryption levels requi= red a significant amount of additional code.
I=E2=80=99m not worried about the overhead of this at all, after all, it=E2= =80=99s just 4 streams, and you can remove them after the handshake compl= etes (some of them even earlier, if you want to take optimizations to the= extreme).

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@marten-seemann, +1. I, too, think that the overhead is small and temporary.

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You are assuming an attacker completes the handshake. Your server migh= t use 4 times the memory for the same attack, if you use 4 different stre= ams. As for code re-use, it's all implementation dependent. My stream cod= e and reassembly code are already separate, so crypto can already reuse t= he same reassembly code.

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What is the attack, though? Resource exhaustion? So a handshake uses four (by the way -- why four? I thought there were three encryption levels) streams. Once handshake is complete, the client can open a hundred streams with a single packet!

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Yes, the attack in this case would be resource exhaustion. There are 3= packet number spaces, but 4 encryption levels (Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake= , 1-RTT). Each encryption level can be used to send CRYPTO frames (EOED u= ses 0-RTT). As for the number of streams a client can open, that is contr= ollable by the server. It can choose to give less while under attack. Add= itionally, completing the handshake to get those extra streams requires a= dditional resources on the attacker side, which might make the attack les= s attractive.

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Perhaps the recommendation, then, is not to allocate a lot of resources until the handshake is completed? There are ways to minimize memory usage. The server has other state in addition to the stream state, so the memory increase is not fourfold.

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----==_mimepart_5b523c08dbab3_e6003fdb1d6be6201880ac-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 12:54:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1370131219 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:54:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UCbLAE9oF0tJ for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 905E8131224 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:53:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532116439; bh=0VoQy/l1NsVBLzRXOgFKb/ltN2zHY2YiX2KaAU/OXvc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=F9HvcR2jeGp3rrE+DO2GJeLc1DwFsV1MXfE1hWUxjlEoOI8hRto3Wrp2uo22P6cs5 JiMsPch4qMZKDBdD3pwK00wnlo4qmfmrvha7/fHiT+F8VJbcI5zpfgWmF+yZpucHKI 0lesS0qA03Gq5tcSQz2vVMQ7Qavj21kQBKNg0kdI= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b523dd7e40b0_2a943fb199ebe62017452f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:54:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b523dd7e40b0_2a943fb199ebe62017452f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree this isn't the only memory being allocated, but it is one that is directly controllable/influenced by the attacker. If they attack your flow control for each 'stream' they can attempt to maximize your memory usage and then move on to a new connection to do the same. With a single stream (and associated FC window/buffer) it seems a lot easier to manage this attack. It is still doable with 4 streams, but requires some cross stream logic, which I doubt anyone already has. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406709818 ----==_mimepart_5b523dd7e40b0_2a943fb199ebe62017452f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree this isn't the only memory being allocated, but it is one that= is directly controllable/influenced by the attacker. If they attack your= flow control for each 'stream' they can attempt to maximize your memory = usage and then move on to a new connection to do the same.

With a single stream (and associated FC window/buffer) it seems a lot = easier to manage this attack. It is still doable with 4 streams, but requ= ires some cross stream logic, which I doubt anyone already has.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b523dd7e40b0_2a943fb199ebe62017452f-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 13:03:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06A2130ED2 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7oIS6sX-tmiM for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDBA01310B8 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:03:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532117010; bh=DmxIR9x9DcmF5K77jQVzZKgD8F+ZL2YgLZ6L5M6pd9M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PKRpeDFnBTr539fM/jSfCnZBhP847k58Rx7vb2qxAL+cld+OJ+HYr6l5tjmSZ9HLg D+1pzfOLlsLjNefgUGC9mKMgzdCf6T1pQ3FAXPFO3DfijVrcvSiHILnZTx9vBtenDE C+U4uXjxlp32/mRY4IFoD7DaXFk2ZCSzxoatCsd8= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b524012bdc26_2ffb3fe454cbe62018914d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:03:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b524012bdc26_2ffb3fe454cbe62018914d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks, you've mentioned your own implementation twice, but one implementation's preference is a dubious argument for a specification change. I don't claim to understand all intricacies of the CRYPTO frame design (we haven't gotten around to implementing draft-13). Nevertheless, the current designed has been "Design Teamed" and hummed upon. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406712082 ----==_mimepart_5b524012bdc26_2ffb3fe454cbe62018914d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@nibanks, you've mentioned your o= wn implementation twice, but one implementation's preference is a dubious= argument for a specification change.

I don't claim to understand all intricacies of the CRYPTO frame design= (we haven't gotten around to implementing draft-13). Nevertheless, the = current designed has been "Design Teamed" and hummed upon.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b524012bdc26_2ffb3fe454cbe62018914d-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 13:08:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A78130E6D for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BLBT7Lomwoyc for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25792130DEE for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:08:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532117310; bh=wBTtrap4ARkt/I8OSqYuJLbKA/rsm76KZSBMgxHTRhQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TqXIki9+QoXuxbGjbx2EQlnH3+J8DJ+gXCvBu9oS64REvFCfpTjJ6KmG0AfujRrRM 9+morCpTpThkmOpn5/F1pgvgEvzQevrX0/jWdMDm5LO7x++FBgoaMj1Lb5ibotk0gb qIKFNBCoUVsgf5jFdNGK9Xa3twQrEC6uaHcGnrxM= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b52413e2e926_77a93f9ec20d45bc15151"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:08:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b52413e2e926_77a93f9ec20d45bc15151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know the design team suggested the CRYPTO frame design. I was part of the design team. At the time, in the theoretical sense it all made sense. After implementing it, I have seen some issues. Also, I agree one implementation experience isn't enough to change things outright, but it's enough to open an issue and have the discussion. I'm not arguing to undo everything. I am just trying to consolidate things I see as bloated and overly complex. I very much like the design of multiple encryption levels. All I am arguing for is a change in how each starts its offset. If folks still generally believe the current way we have offsets is better, then so be it. That is not my experience, so that's why I opened the issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406713278 ----==_mimepart_5b52413e2e926_77a93f9ec20d45bc15151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I know the design team suggested the CRYPTO frame design. I was part o= f the design team. At the time, in the theoretical sense it all made sens= e. After implementing it, I have seen some issues. Also, I agree one impl= ementation experience isn't enough to change things outright, but it's en= ough to open an issue and have the discussion.

I'm not arguing to undo everything. I am just trying to consolidate th= ings I see as bloated and overly complex. I very much like the design of = multiple encryption levels. All I am arguing for is a change in how each = starts its offset.

If folks still generally believe the current way we have offsets is be= tter, then so be it. That is not my experience, so that's why I opened th= e issue.

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Only one of the uppercase instances is not a title.

Either way, this seems like a matter of editorial discretion. Alan can make a call.

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An ACK- only packets seem like they are less critical to reset. The se= nder of an ACK- only packet is unlikely to send again shortly. That cuts = two ways though. Either it would be a huge optimization to get the reset,= because it would otherwise be a fair while until the next packet would b= e sent; or it would be wasteful, because the endpoint isn't planning to u= se the connection any time soon.

To me that suggests that ACK-only packets aren't worth paying special = attention to in the design, even if they are super common.

Either way, guessing the size of the peer's connection ID doesn't seem= right to me.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b524ad191701_62f73f8d39ed45bc11473d-- From nobody Fri Jul 20 13:59:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044E4130EEF for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ecbK72ExRJKf for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B658E130EDE for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:59:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532120344; bh=LVx5eJeIT4+3B0rKsP5t+JsCnzhy+/nCrzjmACeq52I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qYq2+MydJ9nT10r+s/tT8KWOgNoM51+N2ZcJQyGQv5zCUureFVoNb/2bPuDuYFXEP rpFsl6NJk/qFyHwKtPQCh2o9Vl7+wyqqfQRvpo3r2fXXxw1zY851G94ntE0OvKGEwE CpCS6zTD6HZXAydkl8GnB+/tyzwoVHyKY9nMBx0Q= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b524d189149_10433f88f00d45b8482b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:59:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b524d189149_10433f88f00d45b8482b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To clarify, I'm suggesting the reset packet attempt to look like an ACK-only packet instead of attempting to look like a full-sized data packet. I'm not trying to ensure a reset is sent in response to an ACK-only packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406725294 ----==_mimepart_5b524d189149_10433f88f00d45b8482b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To clarify, I'm suggesting the reset packet attempt to look like an ACK-only packet instead of attempting to look like a full-sized data packet.

I'm not trying to ensure a reset is sent in response to an ACK-only packet.

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OK, I missed that. Back the < > SOME_SIZE, why would it be worse= to statistically reset packets below SOME_SIZE than to ignore them entir= ely? That is what I would suggest. Above SOME_SIZE it is fine to graduall= y reduce size or to choose a camouflaged ACK rendition.

Some argue that gradual size reduction is not a problem but I think th= at unless he reduction is aggressive, it can lead to heavy amplification = attack, similar to slow TTL reduction. In that light, simply sending an A= CK-like reset would be safer because it aggressively drops the size down.=

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"The cryptographic handshake failed. A range of 256 values is reserved for carrying error codes specific to the cryptographic handshake that is used. Codes for errors occuring when TLS is used for the crypto handshake are defined in Section 11 of [QUIC-TLS]."

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have separate flows and then not have to worry about data coming on one encryption level that had offsets appropriate to another encryption level= .

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> I know the design team suggested the CRYPTO frame design. I was part= of
> the design team. At the time, in the theoretical sense it all made s= ense.
> After implementing it, I have seen some issues. Also, I agree one > implementation experience isn't enough to change things outright= , but it's
> enough to open an issue and have the discussion.
>
> I'm not arguing to undo everything. I am just trying to consolid= ate things
> I see as bloated and overly complex. I very much like the design of<= br> > multiple encryption levels. All I am arguing for is a change in how = each
> starts its offset.
>
> If folks still generally believe the current way we have offsets is<= br> > better, then so be it. That is not my experience, so that's why = I opened
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----==_mimepart_5b534cb9c6c93_4d153fbfa54be6247549d0-- From nobody Sat Jul 21 08:09:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7DF12426A for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 08:09:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yO59n_GOdaC8 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 08:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63382130DBE for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 08:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 08:09:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532185785; bh=dc/QkMRt1aXGWBq67jgQpohdDAEZCjMEhAG4BgjjWQ8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P3ujoxjr1QC5xB0pyzwDMHzF3OorEFhDQoMhvUVyblDYIQ4RA5SNFYBRoPPAtPi+e 68PUvxUPii1dHDdScSEBWYVuy86lNxNDzYi6Okz8DpAoOHiEAP3snihjF+Fc7lG0hS DjcrNzHlaxkA1fwcvYQMrED9WDXtoN4Ou4VMx+rY= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Single Stream of Bytes for CRYPTO Frames (#1592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b534cb9cab2e_5dc63f84408d45c47943b8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 15:09:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b534cb9cab2e_5dc63f84408d45c47943b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it seems like everyone else likes the current design, so I will leave it be. FYI, I still plan to implement it as a single stream with offsets, but I will just add/subtract offsets when I receive/send the CRYPTO frames. That way I don't need to duplicate all the send tracking state, reassembly buffers/flow control. It's not as clean, but still gets me to the memory usage I wanted. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1592#issuecomment-406802801 ----==_mimepart_5b534cb9cab2e_5dc63f84408d45c47943b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, it seems like everyone else likes the current design, so I will = leave it be.

FYI, I still plan to implement it as a single stream with offsets, but= I will just add/subtract offsets when I receive/send the CRYPTO frames. = That way I don't need to duplicate all the send tracking state, reassembl= y buffers/flow control. It's not as clean, but still gets me to the memor= y usage I wanted.

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https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md#on-new-congestion-event

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Thanks. I'm not sure how that was misspelled in that way, but it's now kLossReductionFactor, as it should have been.

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----==_mimepart_5b53653e31490_51d53fc6c64d45b44538bc-- From nobody Sun Jul 22 19:28:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF400130DD2 for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:28:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LCtpIMfqMvkS for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86676130DC9 for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:28:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532312930; bh=YPHroUR+V1PCJARbZjIsZwhEIRaF2osG6V278b6dFBs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=usd7lyQDYnsnzPfdgiulrc2q7ziGn520jSL6tPir4gsNRMG7lN457w9FljcCStd3J 1q6yB3rutxcRJUqrsCz+FDmHG2n6JEXzbfq2/vBFFqlC8q+qspegt7eIcS9PGp50BA mf64GyVrk+oT2mNKbh+F+m+2Wt+OPZZIqGIlgoZ0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b553d62670b4_26703ff3770d45bc1970f8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 02:28:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b553d62670b4_26703ff3770d45bc1970f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm not trying to ensure a reset is sent in response to an ACK-only packet. A misunderstanding then... > I'm suggesting the reset packet attempt to look like an ACK-only packet Yes, but I think that you're missing the point that an ACK-only packet for ANY connection is potentially much bigger than an ACK-only packet for THIS connection. Let's say that your peer chose no connection ID (this would be common for a server that sends a stateless reset). Then a minimal ACK-only packet is 4 octets of ACK, 2 octets of short header, and 16 octets of authentication tag. That's 22 octets. 4 octets of ACK is unlikely, but it is a size you might expect to see early in a connection. Now if you don't know how long the connection ID of your peer is and you want to ensure that the packet you send is plausible, you have to assume that they used the maximum size. That's 18 octets. Then add the short header, a PING frame (which is smaller than the ACK), and authentication tag. That leads to 37 octets - the number in the draft. While it might be valid to send less than 37 octets, you can't be sure that it always will be. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-406921495 ----==_mimepart_5b553d62670b4_26703ff3770d45bc1970f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not trying to ensure a reset is sent in response to an ACK-only pa= cket.

A misunderstanding then...

I'm suggesting the reset packet attempt to look like an ACK-only packe= t

Yes, but I think that you're missing the point that an ACK-only packet= for ANY connection is potentially much bigger than an ACK-only packet fo= r THIS connection.

Let's say that your peer chose no connection ID (this would be common = for a server that sends a stateless reset). Then a minimal ACK-only pack= et is 4 octets of ACK, 2 octets of short header, and 16 octets of authent= ication tag. That's 22 octets. 4 octets of ACK is unlikely, but it is a= size you might expect to see early in a connection.

Now if you don't know how long the connection ID of your peer is and y= ou want to ensure that the packet you send is plausible, you have to assu= me that they used the maximum size. That's 18 octets. Then add the shor= t header, a PING frame (which is smaller than the ACK), and authenticatio= n tag. That leads to 37 octets - the number in the draft.

While it might be valid to send less than 37 octets, you can't be sure= that it always will be.

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----==_mimepart_5b5540d66e9d8_1fcf3fe51ecd45b83640c0-- From nobody Mon Jul 23 05:44:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB77130DED for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 623oo0G3Qsz2 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE90D130DE1 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:44:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532349875; bh=H6PxzmCm5mOIPsv1V2JfFFT7D8bSuui7Dk/uU9E5b1I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IqnKLzAe8mSo5Lbu86pUDcIkIbvvk73eD8/0nEfm9fcn9H4BUKNcuGKjduIzAJjBe /qw7qfKt35l4/Yjl/zv4sWrYtBn+83Owp1Z/DXufN9lnDXJjaKN0Q0u+Sj7v++3IhQ iymz1RAN64uCrhUMA1oooL/0Nqe5bA5daVzIKdpM= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b55cdb2e43eb_2ce3f7f7a0be620102350"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:44:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b55cdb2e43eb_2ce3f7f7a0be620102350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't miss that point about ANY connection, I'm just not sure that is the goal we want given the design we have. We have two goals: 1) Look like a plausible non-reset packet to a passive observer. ie: "to the extent possible - indistinguishable from a regular packet" 2) Allow the peer to be reset via processing the agreed upon token. I think number 2 only requires the packet arrive at the right IP/port, since we've already established that if the peer is relying on it's CID coming back, this design is impractical. This makes 1 the more interesting one. The server receives a packet it can't associate with a connection. At that point, it may have knowledge of what typical client CIDs are for the given application(ie: 0, 8, etc) and what traffic it commonly sends, so it may be able to craft a more plausible reset than the min 37 octet suggestion. That makes me think the current min should be relaxed, to the min non-empty packet size, though I admit by itself that makes this problem slightly worse, not better. If we think requiring sending larger packets is extra burden on observers that want to reset connections, then a larger packet is certainly better, but I don't think we think that's a real form of protection? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-407045187 ----==_mimepart_5b55cdb2e43eb_2ce3f7f7a0be620102350 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I didn't miss that point about ANY connection, I'm just not sure that = is the goal we want given the design we have.

We have two goals:

  1. Look like a plausible non-reset packet to a passive observer. ie: "to= the extent possible - indistinguishable from a regular packet"
  2. Allow the peer to be reset via processing the agreed upon token.
    3. =

I think number 2 only requires the packet arrive at the right IP/port,= since we've already established that if the peer is relying on it's CID = coming back, this design is impractical.

This makes 1 the more interesting one. The server receives a packet i= t can't associate with a connection. At that point, it may have knowledg= e of what typical client CIDs are for the given application(ie: 0, 8, etc= ) and what traffic it commonly sends, so it may be able to craft a more p= lausible reset than the min 37 octet suggestion. That makes me think the= current min should be relaxed, to the min non-empty packet size, though = I admit by itself that makes this problem slightly worse, not better.

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If we think requiring sending larger packets is extra burden on observ= ers that want to reset connections, then a larger packet is certainly bet= ter, but I don't think we think that's a real form of protection?

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The word retransmittable is used in the recovery draft for both frames and packets that cause an ACK frame to be sent in response to their receipt.

This is really misleading, because QUIC never retransmits packets(except maybe connection close) and only sometimes retransmits frames.

Ideally we'd have different words for the frames and the packets containing those frames, but at a minimum I want to stop using retransmittable.

Previous suggestions:

  • Ackable - I didn't like this before, but it's strictly better than retransmittable.
  • Reliable - Maybe a good term for packets, less good for frames?
  • Needs Acknowledgement - Verbose, but correct. Possibly abbreviated to Nack for maximum confusion :)
  • Persistent

I'm want to change retransmittable to something else before the next drafts, so please suggest alternatives now and I'll write a PR for whatever people hate the least.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not
+  ACK-only.
+
+Retransmittable Frames:
+
+: All frames besides ACK, ACK_ECN, or PADDING are considered
+  retransmittable.
+
+Retransmittable Packets:
+
+: Packets that contain retransmittable frames elicit an ACK from
+  the receiver and are called retransmittable packets.

I opened issue #1595 for splitting up the terms, but I'd prefer do that separately.

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I'd throw my vote to Reliable. Reliable frames contain data/information that needs to be reliably delivered. and reliable packets contain reliable frames.

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If a client sends a RST_STREAM with code HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, the server also needs to reset its end of the stream. As I read the spec, I'm unsure what error code best suits this purpose.

  1. STOPPING says it is reserved by the transport in response to STOP_SENDING, so that's not it.
  2. HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED is allowed S->C, but only if no processing of the request has occurred. What if part of the request has been processed?

A corollary question is, if a server cancels a request with a reset_stream, and does not send a STOP_SENDING, is the client expected to reply with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a different error code, or continue sending until told to stop? CANCELLED seems ok here, but I dislike the asymmetry.

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Some random thoughts:

  • use HTTP_NO_ERROR
  • Can't you just FIN the stream?
    • Section 3.1 says "Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM." - which might rule this out...

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----==_mimepart_5b560d341eadc_68933fdd084d45c0273c2-- From nobody Mon Jul 23 10:27:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07D7130F37 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jGal4WaOGdEQ for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC41A130F43 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:27:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532366826; bh=nm6oYO3b6z0cKZz9npp84RFw8tRwlEUdMIzvY9JKCjg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ewaW1cK5ePX2sjvQZEUo55TcfD/61KN9RJURUsVfT/WNTqAu9TMeUydfzwzV6lwYy 12MTbzS1OCnrgPeQgwCof5A4AHupHvdymf3Atd6wStzDtlaGMKI8xfGiurLJpuKgbu IA58pyIPEUWmBwepqetKKZc6FW1+aYOTt8IREdY4= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rename "retransmittable" frames and packets (#1595) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b560feadf6c5_3cb73fc7bd2d45b4189390"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:27:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b560feadf6c5_3cb73fc7bd2d45b4189390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reliable frames are no good - they are not reliable at all. They get lost and are never seen again. Committed frames convey the fact that once they are sent, they are committed to get the information delivered either by themselves or by those that follow in its path. Not necessarily the same information, but at least the same kind. It's like a treaty where one government honors decistions of past governments (but of course not all governments are commited and the same is true for frames). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1595#issuecomment-407136957 ----==_mimepart_5b560feadf6c5_3cb73fc7bd2d45b4189390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Reliable frames are no good - they are not reliable at all. They get l= ost and are never seen again.

Committed frames convey the fact that once they are sent, they are com= mitted to get the information delivered either by themselves or by those = that follow in its path. Not necessarily the same information, but at lea= st the same kind. It's like a treaty where one government honors decistio= ns of past governments (but of course not all governments are commited an= d the same is true for frames).

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Ooh, I like Wack frames.

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I don't want to FIN a stream in response to a RST. For me, FIN implie= s successful completion and RST applies some kind of exception. I read s= ection 3.1 to mean that if I shouldn't abort the response if I receive RS= T_STREAM/STOPPING (eg, I asked for one via STOP_SENDING).

NO_ERROR could be OK, though perhaps something with more semantic mean= ing would be better. "I'm terminating my half because you terminated you= r half". STOPPING more closely matches that but is reserved for transpor= t.

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I understand your points and don't have a strong preference.

The HTTP mapping has previously been accused of too many, too specific e= rrors. So the question to ask would be, would your implementation do anythi= ng different if it received RST_STREAM with different application error cod= es?

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Perhaps it would not do anything different - but I think this is a confusing area where more explicit text about the expectations of endpoints would help implementers.

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----==_mimepart_5b566c0874eaf_34893fd3c38be620686b0-- From nobody Mon Jul 23 17:36:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63236130E71 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:36:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p9-73Y-RdcgO for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6815D130DCC for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:36:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532392610; bh=SOdu7eRTQ6g2kjH9gyTKlPc1kWs39IIoizvJQfmn3Jg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BYhfImfeCkF/bbPef+uRaKrS5Ks4NVbLpDSYUuDUi+KHavZ1HskkZKi0zvijE2mv6 vKMHoGJjbJoGanFV9cDZ7CBoikJ6jCp6NPzX8euCHoJkd37NZ4uxQ6+ydRBSgjgy6+ Oq8EQYz7fhmOG4tk15sGSjhueQfwL5UB204kztBg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5674a265e05_75dd3fc2560be624180235"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:36:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5674a265e05_75dd3fc2560be624180235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is typical doesn't matter. What matters is what was used on that flow. And we have to expect that (in the spirit of greasing at a minimum) some clients will use long connection IDs. Unless you believe that we are OK in sending a signal to on-path entities, that is. But we had that debate already. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-407242519 ----==_mimepart_5b5674a265e05_75dd3fc2560be624180235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What is typical doesn't matter. What matters is what was used on that= flow. And we have to expect that (in the spirit of greasing at a minimu= m) some clients will use long connection IDs.

Unless you believe that we are OK in sending a signal to on-path entit= ies, that is. But we had that debate already.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5674a265e05_75dd3fc2560be624180235-- From nobody Mon Jul 23 18:50:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB41130F5E for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:50:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NZuPOxAy85jy for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29C01130E9E for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:49:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532396995; bh=RpdmpKxTgjwDvdKGF7L/SXsZeQRlgAkLm2zlLR/beFk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JdpDv5cy+4C+cwi9Iq+lAxJpW2oXHXpya2iQg1Unzk8kD+tGKgVsEHDS/uPYQQGmZ ODYcfqFwXT2EWwoUl5jWqxcl3VCtoPmWJSptSEcc3eGiCIhMhKJ5yRq9f/+LK1SA0J zQrvdOgeyovxk8AzRQUajNqbc0KDxrvR+mj/gR5g= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5685c3e0e4b_3f193f94f8ed45b452964"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 01:50:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5685c3e0e4b_3f193f94f8ed45b452964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a given flow, one of two things is true: 1) The CID towards the client is 0-length: In this case, almost any random-looking packet is plausible. 2) The CID towards the client is >0-length: In this case, any return packet will have a different CID from the correct/previous CID, so an observer would have to assume the server decided to change CIDs. In which case, it's difficult to know what to assume, though changing CIDs by the server may be considered an "unlikely" event by observers and thus may be an indication of reset, since typically we expect the client to initiate CID changes. I think this is a natural fallout of the asymmetric CID design that I didn't fully appreciate until recently. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-407253960 ----==_mimepart_5b5685c3e0e4b_3f193f94f8ed45b452964 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For a given flow, one of two things is true:

  1. The CID towards the client is 0-length: In this case, almost any ran= dom-looking packet is plausible.
  2. The CID towards the client is >0-length: In this case, any return = packet will have a different CID from the correct/previous CID, so an obs= erver would have to assume the server decided to change CIDs. In which c= ase, it's difficult to know what to assume, though changing CIDs by the s= erver may be considered an "unlikely" event by observers and thus may be = an indication of reset, since typically we expect the client to initiate = CID changes. I think this is a natural fallout of the asymmetric CID des= ign that I didn't fully appreciate until recently.

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I see, so if the client requested 18 octet connection IDs, then a change to 8 is perhaps acceptable because it just looks like it changed to a shorter value, which is possible?

What if no other connection from that client has ever used a shorter connection ID?

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----==_mimepart_5b56877b4a7ae_2bd4d3ffcc9abe61c136724-- From nobody Mon Jul 23 19:02:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BA2130F6A for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vybJnNDjgENB for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 19:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1720130F6D for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 19:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 19:02:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532397726; bh=5weMw3FwnhL8LG45c0kY3XG43M2em2R3ZE9pnAPoNKU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZXNIQL4TyTbMOUt21hGg72mzuGBweN4FGWVtXptEsUwWaVVaGPF6QB1wfnJze8zXw RQFo+ISmnB7n0vu4DmE1HiPfzuB+PknUolF21bsvz41/sotkJT0yiN8q5y67Ue3A1y oPYOt4j9TEbLsM5/nVxwjP9Rk9vdSRCimHRQVVQg= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Eternal Ping Pong (#1443) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b56889ed06a2_52b43f95920d45b4389ad"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 02:02:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b56889ed06a2_52b43f95920d45b4389ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's a good question. At the moment for HTTP, I think it's reasonable to expect <=8 byte CIDs towards the client, with 0 being very common. For WebRTC, I expect 0 bytes to also be very common, but there may be use cases when non-zero is necessary. It's difficult for me to speculate about other applications. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1443#issuecomment-407255829 ----==_mimepart_5b56889ed06a2_52b43f95920d45b4389ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's a good question. At the moment for HTTP, I think it's reasonab= le to expect <=3D8 byte CIDs towards the client, with 0 being very com= mon. For WebRTC, I expect 0 bytes to also be very common, but there may= be use cases when non-zero is necessary. It's difficult for me to specu= late about other applications.

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It's possible that we could allow the 20 octets of randomness to be shortened, though observe the risks inherent in doing that. Would that be acceptable?

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That seems reasonable to me.

I'm trying to understand what the constraints on the design space are, and I'd love to see a ping-pong solution that ended with a single reset sent, but I understand that may not always be practical.

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----==_mimepart_5b568aa7146c6_6d233fcbfb8d45bc32198-- From nobody Tue Jul 24 00:33:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5918D130E12 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DWWUjwIw4Lyj for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDD86131038 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:33:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532417603; bh=UUfIfMszhhO1OP6IyWzB/dJn05Amfj8PvF1Vu2TJkxU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IqFj5u+VnOI8OC04u/pbJJT5MgDJU8GCHfN/eEcWQUVq+bFow1BO2A/pqL172n+ia JBBqc0V9RnlUXplRu5vvfgZoKwmMklrcTzboIsuKCjBM6yxVj8A0TFjFUvIHf7WCFd hVSn6fTHoZsARRgA+H/jPAjuiHAsWPpLlHgNAY8c= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rename "retransmittable" frames and packets (#1595) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b56d64315ad0_43153face2ebe61845426c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 07:33:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b56d64315ad0_43153face2ebe61845426c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd prefer something like "ACK-eliciting". In my view, it should rather _not_ be called "ACKable", because even an ACK frame expects an acknowledgement. IIUC, we are looking for a term for frames that invokes an early acknowledgement. I am not sure if "reliable" or "committed" is a good term, because we have PING, which is not something that is guaranteed to be delivered. Instead, it is something that just elicits an acknowledgement. The sender has the total freedom of deciding whether or not to resend an PING if it does not see an acknowledgement. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1595#issuecomment-407310232 ----==_mimepart_5b56d64315ad0_43153face2ebe61845426c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'd prefer something like "ACK-eliciting".

In my view, it should rather not be called "ACKable", because= even an ACK frame expects an acknowledgement. IIUC, we are looking for a= term for frames that invokes an early acknowledgement.

I am not sure if "reliable" or "committed" is a good term, because we = have PING, which is not something that is guaranteed to be delivered. Ins= tead, it is something that just elicits an acknowledgement. The sender ha= s the total freedom of deciding whether or not to resend an PING if it do= es not see an acknowledgement.

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On PING:
you can have committed frames, and ACK eliciting frames, and they are mostly the same, but not always. So it makes sense to have different terms.

ACK-inducing would be an alternative to ACK-eliciting.

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On Wack:

It would be more precisely to name them Whack frames because like whack-a-mole, they keep popping up again in a new form. Mole might actually be the correct term here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoP1E9J4jpg

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I think I prefer lowercase as well

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in 4.3. Congestion Avoidance

and sets the slow start threshold to the new congestion window.

however, the pseudo code doesnt do that

i'm guessing that CongestionEvent should do that?

      CongestionEvent(packet_number):
        // Start a new congestion event if packet_number
        // is larger than the end of the previous recovery epoch.
        if (!InRecovery(packet_number)):
          end_of_recovery = largest_sent_packet
          congestion_window *= kMarkReductionFactor
          congestion_window = max(congestion_window, kMinimumWindow)
+         ssthreshold = congestion_window

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This is probably an expansion/relocation of the GOAWAY text; offline editorial feedback indicated that it was unclear from the HTTP document when to use GOAWAY vs. APPLICATION_CLOSE vs. CONNECTION_CLOSE, and readers shouldn't need to read the transport doc to figure it out.

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----==_mimepart_5b57634168ba0_2b7d3fa46bcd45c0425a0-- From nobody Tue Jul 24 10:38:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4465C130F20 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nDen0BHlWN6O for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82FB3130ED0 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:38:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532453914; bh=li4jWba9tzKUgjtyiGDryFUkTEiXa0+ntpLo1ZErVwY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Lt7MmpyI6Rvc/VwHanEj8YYs4Smnn9oip8uoUlkHFZMLnUVQmcUsglR79WUKj6D3z J1H+bTASaj0UJdpsUaNnUpeOuSBYHFCSsh1VQy6XVbBuegG6mcX26J9zwgzNbz+Phx lll31luTX3hsattVtnLZ3nPel2VZpffZ6N9pnjmU= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] draft-ietf-quic-recovery-13 ssthresh never set (#1598) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b57641aca818_1bbc63fa3332be6281686a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:38:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b57641aca818_1bbc63fa3332be6281686a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That looks correct to me. PR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1598#issuecomment-407490500 ----==_mimepart_5b57641aca818_1bbc63fa3332be6281686a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That looks correct to me. PR?

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Suggestion received in side conversation: Enable the HTTP community to experiment with priority schemes and/or save bytes by defining settings indicating what priority schemes are supported. Doc defines "none" and "this one", future extensions can define new ones.

This may or may not be necessary. Any extension that defines a new priority scheme would presumably already define a setting to declare that it's supported, and the client will pick the one it likes best of what the server indicates support for. Dealing with a client who combines frames from multiple priority schemes isn't something we need to define for HTTP/QUIC. We could conceivably define a list format of priority scheme types, get a registry, etc. but that seems overkill when the SETTINGS space is large and the set of priority schemes likely to see much deployment is so small.

So this really boils down to a hint which permits a server to say "I don't support priority, so don't bother" or indicate that it really does support the current scheme.

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Per side-conversation feedback. Maybe new text, maybe move some from HTTP/2 transition section.

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----==_mimepart_5b57676129ab4_53ff3fa80ecd45c4335ab-- From nobody Tue Jul 24 10:53:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1879130F1C for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mELrNh6_jeRB for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C11B130E80 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:53:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532454816; bh=6f+kzWxiGWCT+khC4JJThJttd7eiTfQCIM0RSbfpyUA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Cr1Lv0cxRFJegr4c2lbZdA5oVZtFyNCgDCOyXcWZ2iJlf5EkiZw8KsyncabI5jbOU V2AuB7Dp6XmRxx8esO2me9v8O2b7kNWq3jGyixjogOXGWEFSoKFKd28FcSsvDHLXiY 0UuEu3V8tWl3CSdohiZoBTIb/DWzS3I4CV/iUkMc= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Indicate support for PRIORITY (#1600) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5767a055fda_3a243fcb066be62421782d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:53:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5767a055fda_3a243fcb066be62421782d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for filing this Mike. I think it'd be useful for clients or servers that don't support the existing H2 style priorities to indicate that. The anecdotal info I've heard indicates efforts to translate the h2 priority scheme into other schemes commonly performs poorly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1600#issuecomment-407495259 ----==_mimepart_5b5767a055fda_3a243fcb066be62421782d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for filing this Mike. I think it'd be useful for clients or se= rvers that don't support the existing H2 style priorities to indicate tha= t.

The anecdotal info I've heard indicates efforts to translate the h2 pr= iority scheme into other schemes commonly performs poorly.

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I seem to have failed at resolving the merge conflicts myself - can you rebase?

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----==_mimepart_5b576b51ecad_ca63fbd58abe6181056df-- From nobody Tue Jul 24 11:15:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9170A130E66 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ez8QhDOhI6Wu for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 283E1130E22 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:15:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532456120; bh=rRHNjlmzGIHHMPzYZ7458T11LkG5APR9AvlDfL2CrQ4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UTQXXpnzM+OTOcCnj4YYZFQ3zEuonygtsLwVfgDpghfi2Eyjsij8M6LnWFvTRfp3R fyVJpF8dHbHAMizDynJYmqr/NxPC0s6u/uy4QqWqdDL4y1+VQzuNO7rUrEKQYgFCAu 7Zb3bXr2jXpZLAcWNsslsP/KfcCj35NuS+ReTxE8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss HTTP/2 more in the introduction (#1601) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b576cb894203_44de3fd28b2d45b8163443"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:15:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b576cb894203_44de3fd28b2d45b8163443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it is fair to give a gentle introduction to HTTP/2 literates, but on the other hand having to digest both HQ and HTTP/2 concepts is an additional burden if you come with no HTTP/2 background. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1601#issuecomment-407502367 ----==_mimepart_5b576cb894203_44de3fd28b2d45b8163443 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think it is fair to give a gentle introduction to HTTP/2 literates, but on the other hand having to digest both HQ and HTTP/2 concepts is an additional burden if you come with no HTTP/2 background.

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fixes #1598

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  • adds missing ssthresh = congestion_window

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Picciani" To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b57742166138_28ed2acb4e1d6f7057b1@hookshot-fe-88eb02d.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c13ae7: adds missing ssthresh = congestion_window (#1602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b57742165da9_28ed2acb4e1d6f705647"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:47:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b57742165da9_28ed2acb4e1d6f705647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: c13ae7e097f753ee50574f41133ddb15574ba496 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c13ae7e097f753ee50574f41133ddb15574ba496 Author: Arvid E. Picciani Date: 2018-07-24 (Tue, 24 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- adds missing ssthresh = congestion_window (#1602) fixes #1598 **NOTE:** This service been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b57742165da9_28ed2acb4e1d6f705647-- From nobody Tue Jul 24 11:47:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE11A130DEC for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BIO7xCA0Ujh8 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E6331311B2 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532458020; bh=3uf1aWWqEpitO060yqjJJEuZy5d72zDjD1l4Jk1pJ0w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EKzc5iNnUxU6et9OC661gZD+qdW1lNxtOLiUzT00cT57C0RRZiKqc51ag8Rs30q7E 01hAA1/rYiOdbYCQtdvVdOzivq+fFcKwb0f99J5MkPfwtckTH7aMx34rZvbY/ef4Rq c3p+lSztb8yB4UslUmZq8PJUopN1ldbJtYuAkInc= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] draft-ietf-quic-recovery-13 ssthresh never set (#1598) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5774248b068_31a3f813bad45c011337a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:47:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5774248b068_31a3f813bad45c011337a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1598 via #1602. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5b5774248b068_31a3f813bad45c011337a-- From nobody Tue Jul 24 11:47:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699A41311AD for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L4w1DUZ5gGdq for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE1A31311A8 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:47:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532458021; bh=yCBFx4aytBxn2vNCCg28bdS+vCJdUmuT5WQ8lhfQb8Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=K1HaTJ9B7pbXHaLPePYgaf+4J/+BEIJwA3xtJHJMx+DWMAq6S2uP4X/6eQClYaDci Uv/XrwlitjKTbafV1qkvWqUw3TnXLtRo/bF1/Eseex3QC0znTs2h7UFl+v2tbAGeTu yGVNUQqLc4h20rRCJ5aQYXn/YwLyqLGjfF6rAZTw= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] adds missing ssthresh = congestion_window (#1602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5774241bd4d_64433f8179cbe61812125b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:47:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5774241bd4d_64433f8179cbe61812125b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1602. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1602#event-1750919959 ----==_mimepart_5b5774241bd4d_64433f8179cbe61812125b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Merged #1602.

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I seem to have failed at resolving the merge conflicts myself - can you rebase?

I have to admit that I get lost in Git terminology. The easiest thing for me to do is to make a new branch off trunk -- will that do?

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GitHub reports that this can be merged, and the diff hasn't really changed since the original commit, so I'm not seeing any problem here.

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Merged #1581.

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----==_mimepart_5b5860956d8ab_64203fbf8bed45c4188690-- From nobody Wed Jul 25 07:26:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E043126F72 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:26:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NO60z5BHEjLE for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40FBC130DF5 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:26:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532528803; bh=miZIaeWz4vUP/U2elIJoYuI9YfZ0/Os80A/BxvQ0DEE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=a40n+9XUjAyzjBDj7TuIPpOHA/XP2mbZZEsmtA3+SUqX0AI1V6a18LBEB4Mhz+8Fc prE9xiZCfLFVzu1A0Y5bUvXzFrToX5hQE7eQkWDjDJile8N1ybAVBv6GNmBodk0vlw Wn3R6B55ok/DmGusFIiBd2/+FS7Nfum0cfEb8QWU= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] qpack: acking headers that do not reference the dynamic table is wasteful (#1603) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5888a335fcb_52ae3fa29bad45bc3188b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:26:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5888a335fcb_52ae3fa29bad45bc3188b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is no need to acknowledge header blocks that do not reference the dynamic table. These acknowledgements do not contain any information useful to the encoder. I propose that the draft be modified to state that ``` A header is acknowledged only when the Largest Reference in its Header Data Prefix is not zero. ``` This change 1. saves bytes -- improving compression and potentially avoiding extra unneeded _STREAM_ frames and packets; and 1. allows the encoder to drop state for such header blocks as soon as they are encoded. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1603 ----==_mimepart_5b5888a335fcb_52ae3fa29bad45bc3188b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There is no need to acknowledge header blocks that do not reference the dynamic table. These acknowledgements do not contain any information useful to the encoder. I propose that the draft be modified to state that

    A header is acknowledged only when the Largest Reference in
    its Header Data Prefix is not zero.

This change

  1. saves bytes -- improving compression and potentially avoiding extra unneeded STREAM frames and packets; and
  2. allows the encoder to drop state for such header blocks as soon as they are encoded.

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----==_mimepart_5b588e81a2157_52b13fa29bad45bc238459-- From nobody Wed Jul 25 07:53:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAF4130F78 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gaficG8TxWTB for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0101130DF3 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:52:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532530371; bh=aTzBpFOBz8VwM0WBwgh4NZOXE3OylOsPFY3tzxac8J8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=x0JQl1YZ+j5uFryN6NaMFGijgARF+QAW88qnlP4NIsrarP2kubuGWSNcdsDdWiM9f x59ZhoF1PWYSQ6AM8kVC1/kJrzAagqvFYrNLmDjwoxvthDV1MCTQWn8HHzumdClpiq E8n6c416GGQ9QAvmrk6j5ChpM0Mu5c6PocKyX+bQ= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Only ack headers that have non-zero declared Largest Reference (#1605) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b588ec32a72a_5c053f918d8d45c4217221"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:53:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b588ec32a72a_5c053f918d8d45c4217221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Acknowledging headers that do not reference the dynamic table convey no useful information to the encoder. I took the liberty to remove the part that a header block is "on a request or push stream." This qualification is not required in the context of the changed sentence. This information is also included in several places elsewhere in the document. Resolves issue #1603. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1605 -- Commit Summary -- * Only ack headers that have non-zero declared Largest Reference -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (10) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1605.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1605.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1605 ----==_mimepart_5b588ec32a72a_5c053f918d8d45c4217221 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Acknowledging headers that do not reference the dynamic table convey no useful information to the encoder.

I took the liberty to remove the part that a header block is "on a request or push stream." This qualification is not required in the context of the changed sentence. This information is also included in several places elsewhere in the document.

Resolves issue #1603.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1605

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@siyengar approved this pull request.

Lgtm

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -206,6 +206,19 @@ Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+### Maximum Ack Delay
+
+QUIC is able to explicitly model delay at the receiver via the ack delay
+field in the ACK frame.  Therefore, QUIC diverges from TCP by calculating a
+MaxAckDelay dynamically, instead of assuming a constant delayed ack timeout
+for all connections.
+
+MaxAckDelay is the maximum ack delay supplied in an all incoming ACK frames.
+MaxAckDelay excludes ack delays that aren't included in an RTT sample because
+they're too large or the largest acked has already been acknowledged.
+MaxAckDelay also excludes ack delays where the largest ack references an
+ACK-only packet.

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Seems like a bit of knee-jerk reaction. The current design with three = spaces has an important feature: it allows parallel transmission and ack = on several encryption levels without open space for denial of service att= acks. Parallel transmission occurs for example when handshake data has to= be retransmitted after 1-RTT data has already been sent. But if you fold= all of that into a single sequence, then the receiver has to accept inte= rleaved encryption levels, and once you do that the DOS attacks become po= ssible.

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@huitema my understanding for the DOS attack, is that it is only possibly with ACKs in an Initial packet. This PR explicitly disallows ACKs in Initial packets. If I am incorrect, I'd appreciate a bit for explaination.

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(#1606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b58e3d1efa41_84d3fe5b94be61c103394"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: grmocg X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 20:55:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b58e3d1efa41_84d3fe5b94be61c103394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the 'partially reliable http' use-case, e.g. an interactive (VC-like) 'video protocol', **the co-mingling of the payload and metadata (header) address space on the QUIC stream prevent interpretation of payload data until all metadata has been received in cases which attempt to use the address space to assert framing** (e.g. I know that the data at any location where n % k == 0 is the start of a record). This method of framing is unavailable (until all headers have been received) with QUIC as it is today since the size of the metadata the client will receive is unknown (it might be encoded by a different compressor, e.g. via a reverse proxy) to either the client or sender, and since the address space of metadata and payload is co-mingled. In other words, in cases where the client knows the relationship of the requests/responses (for instance with a server push response to a particular request) and so doesn't need the headers immediately, it is advantageous to have an address space for payload that starts with a known, constant value. Consider the following: 1. A client requests video of a particular codec, size, bitrate, etc. 2. The server replies by sending a number of server push streams in response to that request., likely within a 'stream group' should such a thing come into existence in QUICv2. 3. For streams which arrive after the first server push'd stream, the type of the data is , and can be interpreted by the application immediately, even when received out-of-order and/or non-contiguously. It would be expected in such a use-case to have a large number of server push'd 'responses' referring to byte-ranges of files on a server/proxy/cache. The client would likely establish a few requests to which the server would never directly respond (it would instead server push responses to those 'requests'), e.g. the client would request playback of a 5MB/s 264 bitstream, and the server would push byteranges of a file containing (at least) the elementary stream. Note that the headers on the pushed streams will be useful upon receipt for applications running on a framework (e.g. a browser) which may wish to cache/store and which (likely for security reasons) doesn't offer the application the ability to assert the data should be stored with URL X/ETAG Y. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1606 ----==_mimepart_5b58e3d1efa41_84d3fe5b94be61c103394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In the 'partially reliable http' use-case, e.g. an interactive (VC-like) 'video protocol', the co-mingling of the payload and metadata (header) address space on the QUIC stream prevent interpretation of payload data until all metadata has been received in cases which attempt to use the address space to assert framing (e.g. I know that the data at any location where n % k == 0 is the start of a record).

This method of framing is unavailable (until all headers have been received) with QUIC as it is today since the size of the metadata the client will receive is unknown (it might be encoded by a different compressor, e.g. via a reverse proxy) to either the client or sender, and since the address space of metadata and payload is co-mingled.

In other words, in cases where the client knows the relationship of the requests/responses (for instance with a server push response to a particular request) and so doesn't need the headers immediately, it is advantageous to have an address space for payload that starts with a known, constant value.

Consider the following:

  1. A client requests video of a particular codec, size, bitrate, etc.
  2. The server replies by sending a number of server push streams in response to that request., likely within a 'stream group' should such a thing come into existence in QUICv2.
  3. For streams which arrive after the first server push'd stream, the type of the data is , and can be interpreted by the application immediately, even when received out-of-order and/or non-contiguously.

It would be expected in such a use-case to have a large number of server push'd 'responses' referring to byte-ranges of files on a server/proxy/cache. The client would likely establish a few requests to which the server would never directly respond (it would instead server push responses to those 'requests'), e.g. the client would request playback of a 5MB/s 264 bitstream, and the server would push byteranges of a file containing (at least) the elementary stream.

Note that the headers on the pushed streams will be useful upon receipt for applications running on a framework (e.g. a browser) which may wish to cache/store and which (likely for security reasons) doesn't offer the application the ability to assert the data should be stored with URL X/ETAG Y.

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Would it work to definine a new server-initiated stream type on which you send a PUSH_ID stream header and then simple the corresponding DATA frames?

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Sure, that is one potential way to make the address spaces separate (a header stream and an associated push stream).

Note that the intent is to still be HTTP.

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----==_mimepart_5b58f548f2946_1dd23ff5154be624936df-- From nobody Wed Jul 25 18:21:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E962F1277CC for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:21:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7JXTem9cYFfE for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D4C0127333 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:21:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532568091; bh=1kVGeKGA0EzIlCT4Er23ZUY/KPhSykRCV56szHK0NwY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U/S3iANB5AjFaA3qtuo5cTOqO/5iafXpY47aHFhV7T4og5joczfPfOXE6pyCt1DOa VhnhnmhkiZ5B14VUkYZcXf6kcwfw9hVgSqiijaVTheYXn/3WM2JQhXw7IEcd+sAnYS rIrBKTyoisq3cE6uUi63y6Hua1ondt7GWY5cg4oE= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add an appendix containing test vectors for "Initial". (#1573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b59221b13e20_7e203f894dcbe6282928"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:21:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b59221b13e20_7e203f894dcbe6282928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. > + f2 41 f2 57 2e fe ee 53 ca 69 0c e5 b2 85 ab 34 + e9 39 e8 fe 98 d7 14 6b b9 fc 78 e9 9a 1b 41 ab +~~~ + +Using this secret, we get the following keys (16 bytes) and +initialization vector (12 bytes): + +~~~ + key: 99 ff fd 2c 3e 4a cd ae 3d 32 02 1c 75 38 86 c0 + + pn key: 14 c2 70 2b 54 48 80 d3 9d ab d7 dd c8 eb cd 9a + + IV: 27 92 24 e5 85 fd 84 e9 e0 70 ea 9a +~~~ + + Yes, having something like that in the spec would be useful. We need an independent verification before publishing these values. Also, having the PN key is fine, but we probably need a complete packet example to ensure that the nonce is properly extracted and the PN properly decrypted. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1573#pullrequestreview-140552300 ----==_mimepart_5b59221b13e20_7e203f894dcbe6282928 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +  f2 41 f2 57 2e fe ee 53 ca 69 0c e5 b2 85 ab 34
+  e9 39 e8 fe 98 d7 14 6b b9 fc 78 e9 9a 1b 41 ab
+~~~
+
+Using this secret, we get the following keys (16 bytes) and
+initialization vector (12 bytes):
+
+~~~
+  key:     99 ff fd 2c 3e 4a cd ae 3d 32 02 1c 75 38 86 c0
+
+  pn key:  14 c2 70 2b 54 48 80 d3 9d ab d7 dd c8 eb cd 9a
+
+  IV:      27 92 24 e5 85 fd 84 e9 e0 70 ea 9a
+~~~
+
+

Yes, having something like that in the spec would be useful. We need an independent verification before publishing these values.

Also, having the PN key is fine, but we probably need a complete packet example to ensure that the nonce is properly extracted and the PN properly decrypted.

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +  f2 41 f2 57 2e fe ee 53 ca 69 0c e5 b2 85 ab 34
+  e9 39 e8 fe 98 d7 14 6b b9 fc 78 e9 9a 1b 41 ab
+~~~
+
+Using this secret, we get the following keys (16 bytes) and
+initialization vector (12 bytes):
+
+~~~
+  key:     99 ff fd 2c 3e 4a cd ae 3d 32 02 1c 75 38 86 c0
+
+  pn key:  14 c2 70 2b 54 48 80 d3 9d ab d7 dd c8 eb cd 9a
+
+  IV:      27 92 24 e5 85 fd 84 e9 e0 70 ea 9a
+~~~
+
+

In fact, I think that it would be better to start with the test vector in EKR's message "PNE Test Vector" sent on the quic list on 7/18/2018.

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I'm inclined to suggest that this is something that could be addressed= in an extension. Imagine that both peers negotiate a new interaction mo= de whereby request and response bodies are carried on other streams. (Fo= r @LPardue: that new stream couldn't = use DATA frames though, or you lose random access, not knowing where the = frame headers are inserted.) Establishing which stream maps to which req= uest is tricky, but probably able to be resolved in a way that meets the = requirements. I suspect that you can't avoid having at least some metadata, but it might be possible to use a signaling mechanism for th= at that can be isolated from the worst of the HOLB.

The OP suggests that metadata might not be important, which suggests t= hat maybe this isn't as much HTTP as is claimed. In some ways, the more = useful this protocol is for this sort of use case, the less it resembles = HTTP. We should explore that some more.

I realize that there are benefits to this being the standardized appro= ach for HTTP, but we'd need to resolve the question of similarity first. = After that, we need to recognize that the structure of the current desig= n is intentional and addresses real issues (though for some, that depends= on how much you believe server push to be relevant).

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connections (something which decreases the accuracy of the bandwidth
estimate, and would cause rebuffering if not controller for).

Http offers a mechanism (via byterange requests on named resources) to 'heal' uploads/broadcasts if there should be an interruption, rec= onnection,
server restart,

Http offers all of the semantics we want except partial reliability, whic= h
is what this is about!

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= ----==_mimepart_5b592ac2141a7_5b923ff4342d45c041613-- From nobody Thu Jul 26 01:25:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F602131012 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:25:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w4svo5S_fBjY for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C48C131007 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:25:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532593544; bh=L0wbX4qubsd5N9rdKaS1IJQKT6ZZK2PbbMFGxvETQHs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=umDYU6LIe9+Mx8uBAfKxSKQXuU2IDc97jCwfycTTpioimj0LletixwAFfE9HcaBnb WHw6t0QdIfESzrPGOy9xVHoQ2npw5TW0N+rljNbfhwbvdzIKI+CpovpIRVa0uIzVDJ n4yLDiYy1T/YF1XisWzw4EP53h31oGkJ+uP1Ta8k= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Possible HoL blocking due to co-mingling payload and metadata (header) address space. (#1606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5985886e43d_1e7c3fe0a54d45c0369815"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:25:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5985886e43d_1e7c3fe0a54d45c0369815 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson thanks for the explanation feedback. Since it took me time to digest what you said let me echo back my interpretation: for a more loosely coupled interaction mode, the use of DATA frames prevents random access to the QUIC stream because there'll be HTTP/QUIC frame headers at unknown locations. One approach, therefore, might be to carry bodies directly in STREAM frames, which starts to sound like GQUICs approach. The difference being that we might avoid use of stream ID's directly and use some other token to correlate headers and bodies. In a partial reliability world, with the above design lost STREAM frames are ok. They result in HTTP body gaps, that can be skipped or repaired (say by byte-range request as @grmocg suggests). We implement a design like this today in our multicast QUIC prototype. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1606#issuecomment-408018646 ----==_mimepart_5b5985886e43d_1e7c3fe0a54d45c0369815 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson thanks for the = explanation feedback. Since it took me time to digest what you said let m= e echo back my interpretation: for a more loosely coupled interaction mod= e, the use of DATA frames prevents random access to the QUIC stream becau= se there'll be HTTP/QUIC frame headers at unknown locations.

One approach, therefore, might be to carry bodies directly in STREAM f= rames, which starts to sound like GQUICs approach. The difference being t= hat we might avoid use of stream ID's directly and use some other token t= o correlate headers and bodies.

In a partial reliability world, with the above design lost STREAM fram= es are ok. They result in HTTP body gaps, that can be skipped or repaired= (say by byte-range request as @grmocg= suggests). We implement a design like this today in our multicast QUIC p= rototype.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5985886e43d_1e7c3fe0a54d45c0369815-- From nobody Thu Jul 26 15:00:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885A4131230 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UOo9G062FIB6 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED7F7130F86 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:00:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532642415; bh=bOf0h1ohARLtoQLU9BDiHZ0psK2H3DFiO6XkKUvQrEs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=d1VuFK9psPN0zGv24zJc5NMKhVfcG4/UgnIGuNrhtz25HAPrkuQ67cRc667dR0mVm LxPElbTKqNP5bacKqtn+5xKAHuD6rKxj7X16tZQxTt+wFID+UdUWtECwjy17ffz7El vZXBOwyh8d3fKfS0T9Mkity+LDMtn+FaqADY7Q58= From: grmocg Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Possible HoL blocking due to co-mingling payload and metadata (header) address space. (#1606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5a446fe2b_1d4f3fa7aecbe61c131236"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: grmocg X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:00:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5a446fe2b_1d4f3fa7aecbe61c131236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson HTTP's headers are important for caching, but may not be important for the initial streaming. This is still interesting for broadcasts-to-millions, since any hiccup on ingestion of the stream causes a hiccup for any follower/viewer of the stream. I'm assuming we'd likely also be using a stream-group (i.e. a grouping of a bunch of HTTP requests/responses together). Within that stream-group (which is really better discussed in that issue), we can know that we're sending multiple responses for a particular request (for the playback side). Depending on the eventual interaction with stream-group and headers, a great many assumptions may be possible for the *requesting client*. Any other client would not be able (unless there is some non-HTTP logic on the server) to make such similar assumptions, and would need more data in headers. There are certainly a few ways to play with this: 1) assume that the headers are below offset X. Start payload at offset X. 2) Transmit a new frame-type which specifies the offset of the headers data until the receiver ack's t has received it. 3) Use different streams for each (this interacts in fun ways with flow-control/max streams). If you assume one of the bits was used to indicate metadata vs payload , that could be sufficient. ... and more. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1606#issuecomment-408248199 ----==_mimepart_5b5a446fe2b_1d4f3fa7aecbe61c131236 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson

HTTP's headers are important for caching, but may not be important for= the initial streaming. This is still interesting for broadcasts-to-milli= ons, since any hiccup on ingestion of the stream causes a hiccup for any = follower/viewer of the stream.

I'm assuming we'd likely also be using a stream-group (i.e. a grouping= of a bunch of HTTP requests/responses together). Within that stream-grou= p (which is really better discussed in that issue), we can know that we'r= e sending multiple responses for a particular request (for the playback s= ide). Depending on the eventual interaction with stream-group and headers= , a great many assumptions may be possible for the requesting client<= /em>.

Any other client would not be able (unless there is some non-HTTP logi= c on the server) to make such similar assumptions, and would need more da= ta in headers.

There are certainly a few ways to play with this:

  1. assume that the headers are below offset X. Start payload at offset X= .
  2. Transmit a new frame-type which specifies the offset of the headers d= ata until the receiver ack's t has received it.
  3. Use different streams for each (this interacts in fun ways with flow-= control/max streams). If you assume one of the bits was used to indicate = metadata vs payload , that could be sufficient.
    ... and more.

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@grmocg out of curiosity, is there an issue about stream-groups? ( I don't see it ).

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Yup, though I called it something more generic under the assumption that 'stream group' may not be the only way to solve the issue:

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There's a related issue in CANCEL_PUSH, MAX_PUSH_ID and GOAWAY. There's a variable length frame length but the frame contains only a single variable length integer, so its length is effectively specified twice.

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----==_mimepart_5b5b6617960a7_cf73ffbf78be628268789-- From nobody Fri Jul 27 11:41:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A257E130E45 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:41:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rx-xyqGSvFtL for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA00F12F1AB for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:41:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=QnzTIfk60el/yo8hhOeTqToQtas=; b=upJxgREtyt78gc5H 85JfUY4e92yb2FIZkUTjYdUewy8p+2GnOAoNKcaQn5zoPtHaadlEV8/6d3C5f8Mq yi5kIGA1+YecDsPrXFzM/ehbo/qVtCV82fvUzHqB2DlwhXFnICdKBzqoBiMz4wyx 7WEkcpG4/cv9/7Ls3UKJlch0dxU= Received: by filter0723p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0723p1las1-9412-5B5B6760-7 2018-07-27 18:41:36.239548955 +0000 UTC m=+160268.369511616 Received: from github-lowworker12-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.42]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 0562jBALQ9OvgnqLrqNi_A for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 18:41:36.035 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker12-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A4440E63 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 18:41:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Possible HoL blocking due to co-mingling payload and metadata (header) address space. (#1606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5b67605327_187e3fe3410be61879090"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0eOwjhJHxscZ6t4Tg1sFOHPBKHUEqKqHWox3 cAp5z0RhXdNiOFsCzL7C0yW9z+pUSo3MsDJDMrBtJIjfpIqo4xs7zOwh1LkL61t9sD9xc8MERf6IMU j8XGnlQ7bWNBRUDzVoUpwCp12Mle1lL3o59pi4Xy/Cg5Ry49LE/s0g+kU4OyW+Pgq9DOrmJMqaPUjX Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 18:41:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5b67605327_187e3fe3410be61879090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The design from one of the unidirectional forks, where DATA frames described on which other stream to expect that chunk is actually no better for you, because you still need the rest of the header stream to get appropriate correlation information. Basically, for any design which permits the body not to be a single contiguous unit on its own stream, you'll have this problem. As @martinthomson says, the current design also addresses real issues, and I don't know that we want to rework our stream mapping again at this point. We decided in Paris to go to a single stream because we wanted to be able to provide ordering amongst metadata and body chunks. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1606#issuecomment-408505493 ----==_mimepart_5b5b67605327_187e3fe3410be61879090 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The design from one of the unidirectional forks, where DATA frames descr= ibed on which other stream to expect that chunk is actually no better for y= ou, because you still need the rest of the header stream to get appropriate= correlation information. Basically, for any design which permits the body= not to be a single contiguous unit on its own stream, you'll have this pro= blem.

As @martinthomson says, the current = design also addresses real issues, and I don't know that we want to rework = our stream mapping again at this point. We decided in Paris to go to a sin= gle stream because we wanted to be able to provide ordering amongst metadat= a and body chunks.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5b67605327_187e3fe3410be61879090-- From nobody Fri Jul 27 12:30:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD80130DCB for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aVxPvLyydx4s for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0438130DCA for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:30:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532719827; bh=YbQ4CpXAyz/o7DWySTbeecPX1VNLVbfsVlfmT2qVc/w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Doj9eY77aXz89JcQQ6lX0kxAuNfAIUFY+gtyIndiLRXb3K0wUw/mxxll6wOvxdblj AfRDFrT+rJWQdKTj4mweQjei5P7cqlQorvva1KI6y4ufK5RD874Ww9Fg21XtzWgrGK X/HuM7+jemb9zk/AgdtZYvPWI6H+wTF7fb/LSav8= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Possible HoL blocking due to co-mingling payload and metadata (header) address space. (#1606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5b72d3b365a_4fc83faa7f0d45bc10802c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 19:30:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5b72d3b365a_4fc83faa7f0d45bc10802c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the current stream design is good for the conventional HTTP case. I think that more specialised HTTP applications, where the resources are more self-describing can benefit from alternate designs. To paraphrase some of the above discussion, a request for a DASH initialisation segment can ellicit a bunch of PUSH_PROMISEs for media segments (easily generated because they are predictable, so minimal HOL blocking). Soon after, media segment body data is delivered on a new type of HTTP/QUIC server-initiated unidirectional stream that delivers segment body on STREAM frames. Some time later, response headers can be delivered on yet another new stream type, to be used for caching etc. This allows the media segment data to be fed directly into a player pipeline closer to the rate of delivery. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1606#issuecomment-408517340 ----==_mimepart_5b5b72d3b365a_4fc83faa7f0d45bc10802c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the current stream design is good for the conventional HTTP ca= se. I think that more specialised HTTP applications, where the resources = are more self-describing can benefit from alternate designs. To paraphras= e some of the above discussion, a request for a DASH initialisation segme= nt can ellicit a bunch of PUSH_PROMISEs for media segments (easily genera= ted because they are predictable, so minimal HOL blocking). Soon after, m= edia segment body data is delivered on a new type of HTTP/QUIC server-ini= tiated unidirectional stream that delivers segment body on STREAM frames.= Some time later, response headers can be delivered on yet another new st= ream type, to be used for caching etc.

This allows the media segment data to be fed directly into a player pi= peline closer to the rate of delivery.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5b72d3b365a_4fc83faa7f0d45bc10802c-- From nobody Fri Jul 27 12:52:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82147130DF5 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:52:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JzU3qxzvngUr for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7931B130DD1 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:52:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532721147; bh=nEWPxU3aIkVMvARBeOW++Uv5iP3FJ5BeJbPK4oC0egg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hnAZWAGuVVa2VfTapxJtfzA82xtlgHCmOHdXXtLXcGKhBmg1D7aNWcp5/+ewfWlpf fCuMkJOQKubgtcuzhg8JrMLjt+6xcCv97+8oowBUY7MPtcoMjyfDQm3wk58a70buAT rv6Hc6/zsI8PkIcSJEOE1lOVGpA0GDuatBXz7yXc= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP SETTINGS: define setting content encoding (#1556) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5b77fb65397_77d63f9eaa4be6181097cd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 19:52:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5b77fb65397_77d63f9eaa4be6181097cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @afrind, that's an interesting point. Could you split that out into a separate issue? The current boolean encoding is intended to save bytes in the case of turning something on/off and not needing to convey any other data (e.g. "I support extension Foo"). If you don't send anything, the default case, it's false; it takes the minimum possible length to send true. Because HQ doesn't allow modifying settings after the initial setup, we don't need an affordance for turning something that was true back to false. In HTTP/2, you got 32 bytes regardless of how much or little you needed to convey, so settings of this sort use 0/1 and make other value invalid, or they use 0/non-zero. However, most extensions to HTTP/2 so far have defined non-critical frames that didn't need a setting. I'm not opposed to saying the payload of the integer settings isn't a varint, but it seems like that introduces additional complexity to deal with oddly-sized integers. Is that a noticeably different level of complexity from having to check that the varint is the size claimed by the setting? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1556#issuecomment-408522332 ----==_mimepart_5b5b77fb65397_77d63f9eaa4be6181097cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@afrind, that's an interesting poin= t. Could you split that out into a separate issue?

The current boolean encoding is intended to save bytes in the case of = turning something on/off and not needing to convey any other data (e.g. "= I support extension Foo"). If you don't send anything, the default case,= it's false; it takes the minimum possible length to send true. Because = HQ doesn't allow modifying settings after the initial setup, we don't nee= d an affordance for turning something that was true back to false. In HT= TP/2, you got 32 bytes regardless of how much or little you needed to con= vey, so settings of this sort use 0/1 and make other value invalid, or th= ey use 0/non-zero. However, most extensions to HTTP/2 so far have define= d non-critical frames that didn't need a setting.

I'm not opposed to saying the payload of the integer settings isn't a = varint, but it seems like that introduces additional complexity to deal w= ith oddly-sized integers. Is that a noticeably different level of comple= xity from having to check that the varint is the size claimed by the sett= ing?

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5b77fb65397_77d63f9eaa4be6181097cd-- From nobody Fri Jul 27 13:24:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CC0129385 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:24:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FhhdGp2ghquC for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4A31130E10 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:24:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532723079; bh=/ufkzSchh63R4ii4POuK4x6qoEpz3UtLkuS067NOUxE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1fa2V+uKDecVu1IWyeTzUlmclXqKRtk5N/F+ZTa4PU0Hk8lvTFvkdBpW45B7icaxJ V+rSVne8jh7nHuG2ivFRxXIwwwrCvBzKXNVWID0EuME405jyqtsrWeySWTuK1eYFc/ aPxjzoP1M9jw5muSUr3IhwCRjEJAPGD58kloYh74= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Possible HoL blocking due to co-mingling payload and metadata (header) address space. (#1606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5b7f875008a_1c8753fa0ba0be628120849"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:24:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5b7f875008a_1c8753fa0ba0be628120849 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm marking this v2 for now, because I think it's out of scope for generic HTTP mapping. However, I think Lucas is correct that the better path forward would be as an extension that replaces/augments server push with body-only streams for these specialized scenarios. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1606#issuecomment-408529485 ----==_mimepart_5b5b7f875008a_1c8753fa0ba0be628120849 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm marking this v2 for now, because I think it's out of scope for generic HTTP mapping. However, I think Lucas is correct that the better path forward would be as an extension that replaces/augments server push with body-only streams for these specialized scenarios.

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What happens when you receive, in a Handshake packet, an ACK for an In= itial packet you never sent? If you blow up, it becomes trivial to injec= t a packet and make the handshake fail. If you don't, then the receiver = will discard your packet with the same packet number because it has alrea= dy received that number.

However, I think the first piece is true regardless of packet number s= paces -- someone who sent additional Initial packets with your CID can ca= use your handshake to fail in interesting and novel ways.

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@LPardue
Yup.

I think/hope that we can come up with a cheap and standard way of repr= esenting the end of the initial headers to enable these usecases.
And example was to have a new frame type (at the 'http' layer) which allo= ws us to say the offset of the metadata for a few RTTs until we know a pa= cket containing it has been received.

I'm not worried about in-line metadata, since that is arguably 'payloa= d' in a world where we can do stream-groups and multiple response streams= (which would be arguably more flexible than a single response with multi= ple metadata segments for header-size-ish metadata).

@MikeBishop

In my estimation, this isn't just a 'server push' issue, as one would = really want to do the same thing on ingestion (uploading), not just playb= ack (downloading). It becomes an HTTP mapping issue (whether for quicv1 o= r quicv2) since it impacts not just push, but also GET/PUT, and should fi= t into whatever prioritization stuff is happening as well.

Consider that one of the bigger issues with video playback (and rebuff= ers), especially on browsers (but also on android/ios apps), is "applicat= ion" self-contention. A page/application/domain makes requests for HTTP o= bjects but, due to the lack of coordination (today) between the video upl= oading/downloading stuff (most often not HTTP today for low-latency stuff= ) and the non-video HTTP stuff, the bandwidth estimate becomes incorrect,= the buffer drains prematurely, and you have the video transfer (which ex= pects at least a certain bitrate over short time periods), much to user c= hagrin.

Anyway that is part of the thought process!

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -206,6 +206,19 @@ Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+### Maximum Ack Delay
+
+QUIC is able to explicitly model delay at the receiver via the ack delay
+field in the ACK frame.  Therefore, QUIC diverges from TCP by calculating a
+MaxAckDelay dynamically, instead of assuming a constant delayed ack timeout
+for all connections.
+
+MaxAckDelay is the maximum ack delay supplied in an all incoming ACK frames.
+MaxAckDelay excludes ack delays that aren't included in an RTT sample because
+they're too large or the largest acked has already been acknowledged.
+MaxAckDelay also excludes ack delays where the largest ack references an

You've used "largest ack" and "largest acked" here. Elsewhere in the document, you also use "largest acknowledged." Might be worth picking one and using it consistently?

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I thought it might be worth adding a matching reference where tracking of header blocks is discussed, noting that blocks with no references don't need to be tracked and won't be acknowledged. However, I don't see any such text that doesn't still hold true, so I think this is fine.

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Based on discussion on the mailing list there are two issues to be awa= re of:

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The first issue can be resolved by keeping the length in clear text. T= he second issue can be resolved by either including the packet number len= gth field in AEAD or by requiring the packet number length to be the shor= tet possible.

It is not clear if making the PN length visible would cause problems, = but even encrypted the length can be learned after transmitting a few mod= ified packets and observing if the packet gets accepted.

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Using varints instead of fixed size fields would allow us to save bytes in the common case, while allowing for a wider range of values if needed. Most importantly, we'd be more consistent in how we encode values across the protocol.
I'm not sure how to correctly write that in the TLS presentation language though.

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The TLS presentation language doesn't currently support varints. I suppose one could add it as a feature.

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In #1452, we made the stream flow control transport parameters optional. There's no reason for the connection flow control parameter to be required.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1610

Commit Summary

  • make the initial_max_data transport parameter optional

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Note that in #1322 we have been discussing how to protect the KEY_PHASE bit.

Decryption of AEAD will still depend on the result of PN decryption ev= en if we make changes being dicsussed in this PR, if we adopt a solution = like encrypting the KEY_PHASE bit using the PNE key or determining the ke= y based on the value of the PN.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5e515ae0eb6_771d3f8dfa6be61813582d-- From nobody Sun Jul 29 16:52:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34741130DEA for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DBhNeLopbB_A for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2F3D130DCD for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:52:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532908326; bh=DsO65Ni56FRsRjIM0gG/zIylrJs8Ir+sEhmR/XBqTrw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P3c6cXwz4kAAtsYuHxLqeY8ho2xrDL8UIVlx3tVQmPxbiV7OBjGxLBLD0BKNKEUar RdZ0uQa3S/OweFItJrV3GhPnhRQlAsGtW7VTMAT4kG4kr5vnGEQMVKZeE5RQT7I6f+ 1ei7RBZleIPfLl5rngp72yTiekcR5jMIdVjxNnZg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] use varints in transport parameters (#1608) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5e53269f31d_4e03f8dfa6be618585449"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 23:52:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5e53269f31d_4e03f8dfa6be618585449 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that it makes sense to use varints for representing the **values** of the TransportParameters (i.e. the values defined in [section 6.6.1 Transport Parameter Definitions]( https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.6.6.1)). I do not oppose to using varint for TransportParameterId. OTOH, (I do not necessarily assume that you meant this, but) I would oppose to using varints for QuicVersion, or using varint for representing the size of the blocks (i.e. the length of the block represented using `` notation). This is because QuicVersion is a fixed length integer in QUIC as well, and because we do not have a way to express an optional block in QUIC. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1608#issuecomment-408714923 ----==_mimepart_5b5e53269f31d_4e03f8dfa6be618585449 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think that it makes sense to use varints for representing the values of the TransportParameters (i.e. the values defined in = section 6.6.1 Transport Parameter Def= initions).

I do not oppose to using varint for TransportParameterId.

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I think that it makes sense to use varints for representing the values of the TransportParameters (i.e. the values defined in section 6.6.1 Transport Parameter Definitions).

That's exactly what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.

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LGTM :+1: aside from one editorial issue (see my inline comment). > @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against the original to be successful in this attack. Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}). +## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle} + +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can cause "can cause force" -> "can force"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1554#pullrequestreview-141373218 ----==_mimepart_5b5e707b2417_5f513fdbae2d45b419934b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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LGTM =F0=9F=91=8D aside from one editorial issue (see my inline comment).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-pa=
th attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against
 the original to be successful in this attack.  Therefore, QUIC receivers=
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+## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle}
+
+An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can =
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"can cause force" -> "can force"?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

@nibanks, I think that the idea was to give the server better control over where to send subsequent Retry packets. That is, it can choose a value that is better for load, DoS prevention, or whatever it needs. The server can use the token to validate that the value was its own choice as well, removing concerns about the client stacking load on certain servers.

(I thought that this was one of your design constraints, but I realize now I don't know where that idea came from.)

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----==_mimepart_5b5e719e564f6_23c43f931d2d45c0301193-- From nobody Sun Jul 29 19:41:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B25F130F80 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:41:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xLcmob06ou6W for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F62E130F78 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:40:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532918459; bh=XfTIYlE8sF/8lyBn390WSLGVRp0zyPVGxMYNZPYN+Qo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dfC6N4YRdpgW5Wc1k23CDio8t9W4qkzWWTDtaYKV3woj+n0LMrgwHcUKMF7CZPadm zjNho4QYGnKSQF0U/veN6xsFqP01lQcTcq+eoLrQmhoeVsxqRHh1SC3fbxBIGR9YX6 oAyPzL2L13C0icFSR4Wroiu+13zhdzn2+744GiP4= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Retry packet (#1498) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5e7abb75d56_3f253fc5a74be61c650679"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:41:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5e7abb75d56_3f253fc5a74be61c650679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly +acknowledged by a client. + +A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet. + +If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination +Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard +the packet. This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet. + +The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the +provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment. + +A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent +Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8 +octets in length. This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when +the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets. Consequently, a valid Retry I believe @mcmanus originally requested the ability to change CID with the (old) Retry packet. For DoS, I only require the Token field. Is it true or not that we recommend not using the client Initial CID for load balancing decisions? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1498#discussion_r206003142 ----==_mimepart_5b5e7abb75d56_3f253fc5a74be61c650679 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

I believe @mcmanus originally requested the ability to change CID with the (old) Retry packet. For DoS, I only require the Token field.

Is it true or not that we recommend not using the client Initial CID for load balancing decisions?

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explictly
+acknowledged by a client.
+
+A server MUST only send a Retry in response to a client Initial packet.
+
+If the Original Destination Connection ID field does not match the Destination
+Connection ID from the most recent Initial packet it sent, clients MUST discard
+the packet.  This prevents an off-path attacker from injecting a Retry packet.
+
+The client responds to a Retry packet with an Initial packet that includes the
+provided Retry Token to continue connection establishment.
+
+A server that might send another Retry packet in response to a subsequent
+Initial packet MUST set the Source Connection ID to a new value of at least 8
+octets in length.  This allows clients to distinguish between Retry packets when
+the server sends multiple rounds of Retry packets.  Consequently, a valid Retry

Ack.

I don't think that we have a concrete statement about using the Destination Connection ID from the client Initial. With a token from Retry, you could; without, it's fraught, I agree.

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This is a tricky error code to generate correctly, but giving it a special number implies that it needs special handling. That's not really the case, so using PROTOCOL_VIOLATION is plenty. Closes #1265. 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Commit: 377867695418798f13b337602b631106a1c226ff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/377867695418798f13b337602b631106a1c226ff Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrite section on ClientHello size Commit: 7c6392de9ae2f27760eabf7c00a671424fe118d9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c6392de9ae2f27760eabf7c00a671424fe118d9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- 1200 isn't an actual limit; consistency Commit: dd98adccef7b402ecada7852dac14a3d2b1e518a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dd98adccef7b402ecada7852dac14a3d2b1e518a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- The first Initial packet is the only special one Commit: 3e740f4e5433d23f2d28f7f82b2914011ca49cad https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e740f4e5433d23f2d28f7f82b2914011ca49cad Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-11 (Wed, 11 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Tweaking more Commit: 36cabe6fb2cb4e88126e2899d1e2f92b46cee85a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/36cabe6fb2cb4e88126e2899d1e2f92b46cee85a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- I need to work on my proofreading Commit: d2a655d17418077c483a19eabd520b61868e38f8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d2a655d17418077c483a19eabd520b61868e38f8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-30 (Mon, 30 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- UDP payload Commit: b44cb29f26925750645926899c2d268c128c5fc2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b44cb29f26925750645926899c2d268c128c5fc2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-30 (Mon, 30 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1548 from quicwg/datagram-1200 Datagram 1200 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4073dc0d414b...b44cb29f2692 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b5e9194b1dcb_3ea02aea5ef1ef78698aa-- From nobody Sun Jul 29 21:18:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE78F1294D7 for ; 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Closes #1348. 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(#1573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5e950e8a2f7_3d073ff5e7cd45c076478e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rpaulo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 04:33:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5e950e8a2f7_3d073ff5e7cd45c076478e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rpaulo commented on this pull request. > + f2 41 f2 57 2e fe ee 53 ca 69 0c e5 b2 85 ab 34 + e9 39 e8 fe 98 d7 14 6b b9 fc 78 e9 9a 1b 41 ab +~~~ + +Using this secret, we get the following keys (16 bytes) and +initialization vector (12 bytes): + +~~~ + key: 99 ff fd 2c 3e 4a cd ae 3d 32 02 1c 75 38 86 c0 + + pn key: 14 c2 70 2b 54 48 80 d3 9d ab d7 dd c8 eb cd 9a + + IV: 27 92 24 e5 85 fd 84 e9 e0 70 ea 9a +~~~ + + @huitema my objective was to have the PN key in this section and then use it for PNE but this PR was just for initial test vectors. 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@rpaulo commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +  f2 41 f2 57 2e fe ee 53 ca 69 0c e5 b2 85 ab 34
+  e9 39 e8 fe 98 d7 14 6b b9 fc 78 e9 9a 1b 41 ab
+~~~
+
+Using this secret, we get the following keys (16 bytes) and
+initialization vector (12 bytes):
+
+~~~
+  key:     99 ff fd 2c 3e 4a cd ae 3d 32 02 1c 75 38 86 c0
+
+  pn key:  14 c2 70 2b 54 48 80 d3 9d ab d7 dd c8 eb cd 9a
+
+  IV:      27 92 24 e5 85 fd 84 e9 e0 70 ea 9a
+~~~
+
+

@huitema my objective was to have the PN key in this section and then use it for PNE but this PR was just for initial test vectors. I agree we need independent verification before we publish.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +| Received (i) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Requested (8) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +~~~ + +The fields in the REQUEST_CONNECTION_ID frame are as follows: + +Received: +: The greatest connection ID sequence number received by the sender + from the receiver in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, formatted as a + variable-length integer. + +Requested: +: A one-byte integer specifying the number of additional connection + IDs the sender would like to be issued. Why not a single integer that says "fill to here" ? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1496#pullrequestreview-141391583 ----==_mimepart_5b5e9926493ad_43cf3fc2ef2d45b49238bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +|                         Received (i)                        ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+| Requested (8) |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+~~~
+
+The fields in the REQUEST_CONNECTION_ID frame are as follows:
+
+Received:
+: The greatest connection ID sequence number received by the sender
+  from the receiver in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, formatted as a
+  variable-length integer.
+
+Requested:
+: A one-byte integer specifying the number of additional connection
+  IDs the sender would like to be issued.

Why not a single integer that says "fill to here" ?

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I assume you meant #1542 , I think that this may require some text in section 6.6.2 that explains why optional or when zero value is to be used.

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  • Use largest_acked consistently

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -206,6 +206,19 @@ Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+### Maximum Ack Delay
+
+QUIC is able to explicitly model delay at the receiver via the ack delay
+field in the ACK frame.  Therefore, QUIC diverges from TCP by calculating a
+MaxAckDelay dynamically, instead of assuming a constant delayed ack timeout
+for all connections.
+
+MaxAckDelay is the maximum ack delay supplied in an all incoming ACK frames.
+MaxAckDelay excludes ack delays that aren't included in an RTT sample because
+they're too large or the largest acked has already been acknowledged.
+MaxAckDelay also excludes ack delays where the largest ack references an

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I noticed another problem caused by the fact that ConnectionID is not = authenticated.

In short header packets, the connection ID is followed by the encrypte= d packet number. The encryption of the PN is only indirectly authenticate= d by the QUIC headers appearing in the additional authenticated data of t= he AEAD encryption. However, if a network attacker is given the capabilit= y to alter the Connection ID, he can use this capability to truncate or e= xtend the encrypted packet number. This is very easy to do - for instance= , if the attacker wants to truncate one byte off the encrypted PN he can = set the connection ID to be one byte longer and ensure that the headers r= emain the same.

Unfortunately, this is an effective attack against the confidentiality= of packet number encryption (e.g. successful PN extension is a trivial d= istinguisher for the most significant bits of the PN being 0). PN truncat= ion also puts worrying pressure on AEAD - replayability is no longer prev= ented by AAD (which is provably authenticated in AEAD) but by implicit no= nce authentication (which is not typically proved).

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Some editorial suggestions > @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against the original to be successful in this attack. Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}). +## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle} + +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force +the closure of any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of +producing the token. This creates a possible denial of service attack on I think of this as a reset injection attack. Do you think denial of service is a better characterization? > @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against the original to be successful in this attack. Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}). +## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle} + +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force +the closure of any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of +producing the token. This creates a possible denial of service attack on +existing connections if the attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to +be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID. That is, an attack +is possible if an attacker can alter packet routing so that a packet is received +by an instance that uses the same stateless reset key, but no connection state +for the connection ID. + +To defend against this style of denial service, endpoints that operate in +clusters and that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) I think "that operate in clusters and" is unnecessary. If they share a static key for stateless reset, it's an issue. > @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against the original to be successful in this attack. Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}). +## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle} + +An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force +the closure of any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of +producing the token. This creates a possible denial of service attack on I find this paragraph difficult to read. How about reordering it and rewording it slightly: "Stateless resets create a possible denial of service(reset injection) attack on existing connections if an attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID. An attacker that can cause this token to be generated and appear to be on-path can reset any active connection." I'd move the concept from the last sentence to the end of the next paragraph. "If a connection ID may be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing the destination IP or port, then an attacker can cause the server to create a stateless reset token." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1554#pullrequestreview-141579246 ----==_mimepart_5b5f2e8cdf726_6a983f84f1cbe624887df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Some editorial suggestions

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against
 the original to be successful in this attack.  Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore
 ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}).
 
+## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle}
+
+An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force
+the closure of any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of
+producing the token.  This creates a possible denial of service attack on

I think of this as a reset injection attack. Do you think denial of service is a better characterization?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against
 the original to be successful in this attack.  Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore
 ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}).
 
+## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle}
+
+An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force
+the closure of any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of
+producing the token.  This creates a possible denial of service attack on
+existing connections if the attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to
+be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID.  That is, an attack
+is possible if an attacker can alter packet routing so that a packet is received
+by an instance that uses the same stateless reset key, but no connection state
+for the connection ID.
+
+To defend against this style of denial service, endpoints that operate in
+clusters and that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}})

I think "that operate in clusters and" is unnecessary. If they share a static key for stateless reset, it's an issue.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4730,6 +4727,32 @@ receiver, an off-path attacker will need to race the duplicate packet against
 the original to be successful in this attack.  Therefore, QUIC receivers ignore
 ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}).
 
+## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle}
+
+An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force
+the closure of any connection that uses the same connection ID and method of
+producing the token.  This creates a possible denial of service attack on

I find this paragraph difficult to read. How about reordering it and rewording it slightly:

"Stateless resets create a possible denial of service(reset injection) attack on existing connections if an attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID. An attacker that can cause this token to be generated and appear to be on-path can reset any active connection."

I'd move the concept from the last sentence to the end of the next paragraph. "If a connection ID may be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing the destination IP or port, then an attacker can cause the server to create a stateless reset token."

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----==_mimepart_5b5f2e8cdf726_6a983f84f1cbe624887df-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 10:20:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84521131124 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:20:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j3lB1-HstvaO for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5101130E76 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:20:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532971200; bh=rvi244mINdHmgW4AvFlGG1yRMMjXvQ5WkGALK8rP+PA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mkUH5QsZ3HDsKZgh8bsOK1C0V7VNTEWBxt6rShV6KGEbiHzV5Hs9HthLmrcDxqNez j3MxGn/iVoThQe0V1gBANQ7jfFXlJS5uCTxkxuSOjkINrPyOzB+B2+uqoDIP9sk6tp ErfntA2ZjTDVaB6oeTBznEbTql7CiaGTiizPpguI= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5f48c011928_15293fd6bd6be6202153cd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:20:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5f48c011928_15293fd6bd6be6202153cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ad-l Why do you say the CID it is not authenticated? In early handshake where AEAD is not safe, the question was if the original CID is authenticated, and we have established that it is, eventually - because if the first packet is forged, the traffic keys come out wrong preventing the connection from being established. In short headers where full traffic keys are available, the AEAD tag protects the CID, so it cannot change length by anyone on path, except for the end-points with the traffic keys. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1486#issuecomment-408941083 ----==_mimepart_5b5f48c011928_15293fd6bd6be6202153cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ad-l Why do you say the CID it is no= t authenticated?

In early handshake where AEAD is not safe, the question was if the ori= ginal CID is authenticated, and we have established that it is, eventuall= y - because if the first packet is forged, the traffic keys come out wron= g preventing the connection from being established.

In short headers where full traffic keys are available, the AEAD tag p= rotects the CID, so it cannot change length by anyone on path, except for= the end-points with the traffic keys.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5f48c011928_15293fd6bd6be6202153cd-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 14:45:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577EB130EF3 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 14:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p3iui7PUgREA for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0E95130F04 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 14:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 14:45:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532987143; bh=q2QYBksEy90iz4zdShEQgpFFk/AViEsy/iY5gZgrJIg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0xcyBvPCgewtncGr2+DDvc273Y0qEOb+wEcjvvF19N8UWFCYa2LatmanEGxDavDwl 4vTxUEePLjHKle2AZSkV316HuAT2Q+rg6I9eavjAR96b5ZtotraakHCThKr/4UnI5F PEu/yrcxQchX1tmVEJ0A+xOK2rJjM2ZcCreCitcE= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Http cancel race with stop sending (#1558) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5f8707b9ac9_48353fdb812d45b473913"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:45:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5f8707b9ac9_48353fdb812d45b473913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the client wants to abort the request without finishing it, that would definitely be a RST_STREAM. If the client doesn't care about the response to a request it already sent, that would be STOP_SENDING. I suppose it can be SHOULD, or perhaps clarified to say "a RST_STREAM with the STOPPING error code". However, in a real implementation, I don't think the server will even notice any RST_STREAM regardless of error code -- the STOP_SENDING from the server was triggered in the first place because the server closed its read stream, and it won't see the RST_STREAM unless it tries to read from that stream further, which would probably be considered invalid anyway. So unless and until something happens to the server's write stream -- which would be a STOP_SENDING from the client -- it will continue merrily sending its response regardless of what the client does to the request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1558#issuecomment-409022158 ----==_mimepart_5b5f8707b9ac9_48353fdb812d45b473913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If the client wants to abort the request without finishing it, that wo= uld definitely be a RST_STREAM. If the client doesn't care about the res= ponse to a request it already sent, that would be STOP_SENDING. I suppos= e it can be SHOULD, or perhaps clarified to say "a RST_STREAM with the ST= OPPING error code".

However, in a real implementation, I don't think the server will even = notice any RST_STREAM regardless of error code -- the STOP_SENDING from t= he server was triggered in the first place because the server closed its = read stream, and it won't see the RST_STREAM unless it tries to read from= that stream further, which would probably be considered invalid anyway. = So unless and until something happens to the server's write stream -- wh= ich would be a STOP_SENDING from the client -- it will continue merrily s= ending its response regardless of what the client does to the request.

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In early handshake where AEAD is not safe, the question was if the ori= ginal CID is authenticated, and we have established that it is, eventuall= y - because if the first packet is forged, the traffic keys come out wron= g preventing the connection from being established.

Where is this established? This is completely wrong - the fact that th= e CID goes into the initial secret derivation does not matter at all. Onl= y what goes into the QTP is strongly authenticated - everything else is a= s good as plaintext from an active attacker perspective...

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4729,18 +4729,23 @@ ECN codepoints set in duplicate packets (see {{using-ecn}}).
 
 ## Stateless Reset Oracle {#reset-oracle}
 
+Stateless resets create a possible denial of service attack analogous to a TCP
+reset injection. This attack is possible if an attacker is able to cause a
+stateless reset token to be generated for a connection with a selected
+connection ID. An attacker that can cause this token to be generated can reset
+an active connection with the same connection ID.
+
 An attacker that can cause a server to emit a stateless reset token can force

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Commit: f2a2e9116d0ee4fc826f14b3ee2d8dd4eb495962 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f2a2e9116d0ee4fc826f14b3ee2d8dd4eb495962 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-30 (Mon, 30 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak language some more Commit: b1e8dec0e1d727af0b08221ccbf660f43aaa24c3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b1e8dec0e1d727af0b08221ccbf660f43aaa24c3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-30 (Mon, 30 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Oops Commit: 80f6c9c4030c8f7913c3a7039d6278a7e2034bef https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/80f6c9c4030c8f7913c3a7039d6278a7e2034bef Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-31 (Tue, 31 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Ian's suggestions Commit: bd8d09c2fb89cb4e0643eaacae1f3ebde1bc18a8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd8d09c2fb89cb4e0643eaacae1f3ebde1bc18a8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-31 (Tue, 31 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove text, yay Commit: 231a518591e4aebe9924bfeddf1448e0a16e46ca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/231a518591e4aebe9924bfeddf1448e0a16e46ca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-30 (Mon, 30 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1554 from quicwg/stateless-reset-oracle Stateless reset oracle defense Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a67a63b2877d...231a518591e4 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b5fb0b430d45_3ef82b259b9e8f7c87231-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 17:43:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B61311DB for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:43:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4z4NwUBTT_cp for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A17C713114E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:43:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1532997814; bh=p99cMlQi2Znlag5ZUlXJ3JvMY+qp7Paa1Ido90wQSdw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dU4yBypyjqvLaJuRCEIBDXavCw0ums0OKJGAd4DMqM3Xky52P6nhqoqstLib69wXG +drLynezTITKFXOARuWxM1VBOAjxFJ9bNY4mWtl7gcTEh0VvH6I6+tOGQamP1Ri8Jj 9d50f0yoGN79UGsrHMUeJCZhy3bBxo6vXTRDVghc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless reset oracle defense (#1554) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5fb0b6ef3c1_7e263fb1570d45c410662c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 00:43:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5fb0b6ef3c1_7e263fb1570d45c410662c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1554. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I don't have a strong opinion, but @kazuho's point is fair.

Based on the feedback on this issue, I'm going to close it. If you think we ought to continue discussing this point, please feel free to reopen.

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----==_mimepart_5b5fb44636dc2_55223fec79ed45b8210675-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 20:17:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98E5130E2F for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:17:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YGznvR8Xzufh for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ECF4130E28 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:17:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533007040; bh=8cyN0W6Yzta8tAWYD05+0lp+gAIoksjwaCE/RVU7IOo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yqfM+ok2qreMdAMuzB8moUmAS4CLFXKxJipMZh680sHoxQbAaTarZAL+g3T7stY0d uwgLwNhIQwmIa87dNFbE/NiQhfiVG0ZlCXl31wq1E1rpOyaE60Y9LvuZXDHWdVt2wd T5O0INb9zwGjpbVsX/GDeVRcGPl5hp5K7t/poKkM= From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5fd4c08b195_32883ffae3ad45bc39311e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 03:17:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5fd4c08b195_32883ffae3ad45bc39311e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit we say that in the draft "All QUIC frames are idempotent. That is, a valid frame does not cause undesirable side effects or errors when received more than once" However max stream data has one peculiar property, i.e. lets say a sender sends 4 packets: packet 1: max_data -> value = 1000 packet 2: max_data -> value = 2000 packet 3: max_data -> value = 1000 packet 4: max_data -> value = 200 Here the sender, either due to malice or a bug decides to send the same max data in 2 different packets. Let's say no loss occurs and the receiver gets all the packets. Obviously the receiver could ignore the max data in packets 3 and 4, however a receiver who wants to help peers prevent flow control bugs from happening can know that the peer had sent packet 3 after packet 2 and had thus attempted to accidentally reduce the value. We currently do this in our implementation to help avoid nasty issues like this and has helped us detect bugs. However with some offline discussions people had mixed opinions about this one. One could say that the sentence about idempotence could warrant a receiver allowing this behavior, however what about packet 4 if the sender had clearly never sent the value 200 before? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612 ----==_mimepart_5b5fd4c08b195_32883ffae3ad45bc39311e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

we say that in the draft

"All QUIC frames are idempotent. That is, a valid frame does not cause undesirable side effects or errors when received more than once"

However max stream data has one peculiar property, i.e. lets say a sender sends 4 packets:

packet 1:
max_data -> value = 1000

packet 2:
max_data -> value = 2000

packet 3:
max_data -> value = 1000

packet 4:
max_data -> value = 200

Here the sender, either due to malice or a bug decides to send the same max data in 2 different packets.

Let's say no loss occurs and the receiver gets all the packets. Obviously the receiver could ignore the max data in packets 3 and 4, however a receiver who wants to help peers prevent flow control bugs from happening can know that the peer had sent packet 3 after packet 2 and had thus attempted to accidentally reduce the value. We currently do this in our implementation to help avoid nasty issues like this and has helped us detect bugs. However with some offline discussions people had mixed opinions about this one. One could say that the sentence about idempotence could warrant a receiver allowing this behavior, however what about packet 4 if the sender had clearly never sent the value 200 before?

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I think it's ok to close the connection or stream in this case, but I don't believe it should be mandated. A MAY seems appropriate on the receiver side and a MUST on the sender side?

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Ya I think a MAY should suffice on the receiver side and I would be ve= ry happy with a MUST on the sender, however the general sentence about al= l QUIC frames are idempotent might mislead people into thinking that they= can send any frame at any time. Do you think that "a valid frame" covers= this case? That is after sending a higher max data frame lower max data= frames become invalid.

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I think the sequence of values sent in packets 1-4 should be valid, an= d that an implementation MUST NOT error when receiving these.

When retransmitting a packet, you can do two different optimisations:<= /p>

  1. you can update the offset in the MAX_DATA frame, and thereby save a f= ew bytes that you'd otherwise spend on sending a new MAX_DATA frame.
    2. =
  2. you can retransmit the MAX_DATA frame as is, and instead keep track t= hat packet X is a retransmission of packet Y. When receiving an ACK for X= , you then know that Y doesn't need to be retransmitted (and vice versa).=

According to my measurements, 2. is a much better optimisation than 1.= However, it can lead to exactly the sequence that you described.
It might be possible to combine 1. and 2., but this will create a= lot of complexity: If the retransmission of a packet contains a= n updated MAX_DATA frame, you can't just cancel the retransmission for th= at packet if the original packet is acknowledged, since you need to make = sure that the MAX_DATA containing the updated offset is delivered reliabl= y.

I see little value in enforcing that peers implement optimisation 1., = since the expected performance gains are minimal, while 2. offers a real = benefit on lossy connections.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5fd9347286c_7903fe9e7cbe62849765c-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 20:43:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61736130E24 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gZjtjh5HBYZ3 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6DE3130DCE for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:43:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533008630; bh=U9nba9BplxeF3B6X5dCbM1EM3y4vp1APurKvrU3+0DQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=L5XZzcqsg07DtlLOhmm4uy7On1HkhfJAkzfUxUN05ZhibqCGUv+ztTxVPkNws0Cto ryg4JG7UUl9mivIUpvBIuJWmFZmJjLlT26MU22sKp9oJ4PbkX+zM0SpWQ4+POcjEjw HQsVyct6hY+4n/JHyK9WFMcYUN5ic20ykp+XTEc4= From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5fdaf63d271_509b3f867fabe628325787"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 03:43:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5fdaf63d271_509b3f867fabe628325787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When you're doing 2 why would you not send the latest update? We also do 2, but we send the latest update. We additionally keep track of the packet number of the last sent max data per stream and per conn, that way we know when we get an ack for X we know that we still have a max data pending. It's not super complex :) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409084763 ----==_mimepart_5b5fdaf63d271_509b3f867fabe628325787 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

When you're doing 2 why would you not send the latest update?

We also do 2, but we send the latest update. We additionally keep trac= k of the packet number of the last sent max data per stream and per conn,= that way we know when we get an ack for X we know that we still have a m= ax data pending. It's not super complex :)

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5fdaf63d271_509b3f867fabe628325787-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 20:57:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F399130E02 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:57:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bLxTDEUliy6R for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C6CA130DF9 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:57:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533009462; bh=rAavF36DHp/+u5bVnlKjOfQVVDHM6IXEtHGpcu8GexM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=b759sJPUaAKnht0zRSKfHhBejWdGccmwkcZKFi3NIYdhoOqSGJjpvJCEDlAGiYZzK GGoHriRGazjNNovJRkwFTulohs1MAMkUCnztbuQfDYS02v1PtcoaHvsF4b0dHw/qB1 t+nJ56yFFhvuhrUx/Swm2PvWzixXuGYTiLSBbnfU= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5fde3677f95_1a553fbdd6ed45bc248174"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 03:57:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5fde3677f95_1a553fbdd6ed45bc248174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So this was opened and closed already in #447, though there wasn't a whole lot of discussion and the issue was closed with no action. The action that @marten-seemann suggests is slightly bad - retransmitting packets is rarely the best choice from a correctness perspective - but the conclusion from the other issue was that there was little point in allowing endpoints to police continuous increases to limits. Note that this advice would also need to apply to stream limits. (To answer the question in the issue: Yes, these packets are still idempotent - the definition of idempotency has to allow for the state of the world to change in a way that changes the result the action when attempted again. For example. `GET /foo` is idempotent, but if there is a `DELETE /foo` that happens, the result of another `GET /foo` will be different.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409086659 ----==_mimepart_5b5fde3677f95_1a553fbdd6ed45bc248174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So this was opened and closed already in #447, though there wasn't a whole lot of d= iscussion and the issue was closed with no action.

The action that @marten-seemann= suggests is slightly bad - retransmitting packets is rarely the best= choice from a correctness perspective - but the conclusion from the othe= r issue was that there was little point in allowing endpoints to police c= ontinuous increases to limits.

Note that this advice would also need to apply to stream limits.

(To answer the question in the issue: Yes, these packets are still ide= mpotent - the definition of idempotency has to allow for the state of the= world to change in a way that changes the result the action when attempt= ed again. For example. GET /foo is idempotent, but if there= is a DELETE /foo that happens, the result of another = GET /foo will be different.)

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= ----==_mimepart_5b5fde3677f95_1a553fbdd6ed45bc248174-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 21:15:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B83E130DF0 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X32lmuAdO99R for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B8A9130DE0 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:15:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533010525; bh=neYKC3AQ9r7Gu6BMviZNAf9lKudk6fzupanQ8MtyWac=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l29iei5blPDF/EfvKpQiKCaJ35m6OQX/OnCANLC9IF6KfgVTgGww0AXOIpoz3ngBE Uufks3o6x8OQhc/O3cKj6YDCHMU8mM9JwV0CvIT0CxIhvR3WlOUwL9Y55KcMl0lAZB kDngAQbQu0NEg+LWRrCv2C3lqECBG96VkN4IZ4fM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration should be indistinguishable from a new connection (#203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5fe25d8de64_55403fb699cd45bc599473"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 04:15:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5fe25d8de64_55403fb699cd45bc599473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is in the really hard bucket right now. Other than genuinely doing a handshake (maybe with a PSK), this is easily detectable, if not trivially so. Given the late stage of the process, unless a serious proposal emerges, this is not likely to change. It's also questionable as to whether this is something we want to do. The QUIC handshake tends to leak information in ways that a connection migration currently does not. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/203#issuecomment-409089047 ----==_mimepart_5b5fe25d8de64_55403fb699cd45bc599473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is in the really hard bucket right now. Other than genuinely doi= ng a handshake (maybe with a PSK), this is easily detectable, if not triv= ially so. Given the late stage of the process, unless a serious proposal= emerges, this is not likely to change.

It's also questionable as to whether this is something we want to do. = The QUIC handshake tends to leak information in ways that a connection m= igration currently does not.

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I didn't say it's impossible, but it would add a lot of code for saving a tiny number of bytes, occasionally.
I don't think we should force implementations to perform an optimisation when the performance benefits are probably barely measurable at all.

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With recent changes, which remove the length field from these packets, the answer is no.

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For Retry and Version Negotiation.

Closes #1292.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1613

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  • Exceptions to packet coalescing

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@marten the issue isn=E2=80=99t about sav= ing bytes or an optimization. The issue is a peer being able to distingui= sh a correct implementation from an incorrect one. Correct implementatio= ns might be very cognizant of this behavior and do it explicitly, however= allowing this makes it much harder for a peer to give early feedback to = peers that did this accidentally due to another bug

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Thanks for the pointer @MartinThompson and the clarification about idempotence.

this would definitely apply to any limit frame

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This uses the definition that @ianswett provided, which is as good as any we have. The primary measure here is receipt of new packets, though initiating new activity refreshes the timer as well (to avoid pathological timeout cases that are entirely under local control). The point about asymmetry means that getting this time absolutely right isn't necessary. The timeout is entirely under an endpoints own control. We communicate this so that peers can be careful about sending near this boundary. Closes #1429, #1049. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1614 -- Commit Summary -- * Define idle timeout more precisely -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (18) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1614.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1614.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This uses the definition that @ianswett provided, which is as good as any we have. The primary measure here is receipt of new packets, though initiating new activity refreshes the timer as well (to avoid pathological timeout cases that are entirely under local control).

The point about asymmetry means that getting this time absolutely right isn't necessary. The timeout is entirely under an endpoints own control. We communicate this so that peers can be careful about sending near this boundary.

Closes #1429, #1049.

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Fixed. https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#packet-handshake

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Reopened #1309.

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Oops, I should read more. PR inbound.

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----==_mimepart_5b5feaf95273b_ced3fb3c7cbe6241794a3-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 22:05:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EC81294D7 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:05:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yLdFd2Ibm_vP for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D01341277CC for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:05:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533013514; bh=bDgkE1bHrYXf/sYVj8CP4QVuiivGAZbqgeON/Bfwnnw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EPbQIqo+GUWFaRkHfvTvA+dyeGMAqoZPPVDHxbi8sfSIwc8lNgG9OJQHik7gE/qkV psz6mlPYqZMHMM/Qx5iEAzXkh5P95Re2bPY/iiFom6fvhoZ86ck5vEhJPioAFBBsBs 129DASq29Ac9yk35gcx4PGcG3vP+mccmtIO9pBpY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Wonky definition of kInitialWindow (#1615) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5fee0aa9ae_1b2b3fc48acd45b8457473"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 05:05:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5fee0aa9ae_1b2b3fc48acd45b8457473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [This](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#constants-of-interest-1) renders poorly, as the lead-in is too long. Consider a different approach to defining recommended values. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1615 ----==_mimepart_5b5fee0aa9ae_1b2b3fc48acd45b8457473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This renders poorly, as the lead-in is too long. Consider a different approach to defining recommended values.

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It might even be a good recommendation, but I don't think that we need to concern ourselves with finding a specific value in the same way we have for the handshake. 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It might even be a good recommendation, but I don't think that we need to concern ourselves with finding a specific value in the same way we have for the handshake. Closes #1309. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1616 -- Commit Summary -- * Don't amplify 0-RTT -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (7) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1616.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1616.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1616 ----==_mimepart_5b5fee61b66b6_1ec373f93950be628205549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

No concrete recommendations, though it seems like kInitialWindow (which
caps at 14600) is probably a good backstop. It might even be a good
recommendation, but I don't think that we need to concern ourselves with
finding a specific value in the same way we have for the handshake.

Closes #1309.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1616

Commit Summary

  • Don't amplify 0-RTT

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I find "largest acknowledged" to be easier to read. And it avoids us using made up words.

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It is more like Version Negotiation than Handshake or Initial, so it made sense to move it up. * Retry doesn't include a packet number or payload. Like Version Negotiation, it includes a complete definition. * As discussed in #1451, this requires a server that might send another Retry to provide a connection ID of at least 8 octets. * I clarified the description of fields, expanded the pictures, and made some other editorial tweaks. Open Question: would it make sense to normalize the encoding of Retry and Initial? The former includes a token without a length (because it's the last piece of the packet), whereas the latter includes a length-prefixed token. It might be easier to invert the ODCID and token on Retry. That would make the token processing more consistent. I'm not sure if we want to consider adding a token to 0-RTT and Handshake packets, but that would fully normalize things. Closes #1492, #1451. Commit: bf3f67597f3315018d348bfcf638d8fb9379ff0f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf3f67597f3315018d348bfcf638d8fb9379ff0f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-06-29 (Fri, 29 Jun 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review comments Commit: 55e910f476f56ede4f13ff506378f74a0e488444 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/55e910f476f56ede4f13ff506378f74a0e488444 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Address various comments Commit: fdb837fc8cd9b20486007f377411ff8fb98f1066 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fdb837fc8cd9b20486007f377411ff8fb98f1066 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Collapse a few things Commit: dd13b0e26724445d20353a8eb382a99edc5734cc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dd13b0e26724445d20353a8eb382a99edc5734cc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-03 (Tue, 03 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Add PN offset calculation adjustment for Initial packet Commit: c96058fc6423de0fa332f09cd500b68e1fd5ca36 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c96058fc6423de0fa332f09cd500b68e1fd5ca36 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-06 (Fri, 06 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Grammar hard Commit: e3756579b43c43b002afa71ce5818341ec5c114b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3756579b43c43b002afa71ce5818341ec5c114b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Redo ODCIL encoding. Closes #1535. Commit: 555ae817e5e7fb37dfb1167d08c37c8ecf901dc0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/555ae817e5e7fb37dfb1167d08c37c8ecf901dc0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak language Commit: 19174cfecc237a4c7e772a40992631a25a124c6f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/19174cfecc237a4c7e772a40992631a25a124c6f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Grammar fixes, leftover invalid text Commit: 21f9ba5250712726f1112695a8d8a168a567c693 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/21f9ba5250712726f1112695a8d8a168a567c693 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Refine token use and reuse constraints Commit: 7d96aa94e314fc26dc4c241865dca8036e842d6f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7d96aa94e314fc26dc4c241865dca8036e842d6f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- FOUR bits Commit: dbc58a158b1bbeb2043d2224e2eba01bc38b6347 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dbc58a158b1bbeb2043d2224e2eba01bc38b6347 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-12 (Thu, 12 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- ODCIL will never be <8 Commit: cd9cdb48daea18b3f9b10e3459df09e833dcad32 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cd9cdb48daea18b3f9b10e3459df09e833dcad32 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-14 (Sat, 14 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- a new value Commit: 85f58c060fcdec2c26c16c3d0f4d3915c8500a5f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85f58c060fcdec2c26c16c3d0f4d3915c8500a5f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-31 (Tue, 31 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1498 from quicwg/move-retry Rework Retry packet Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/231a518591e4...85f58c060fcd **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b5fefe4a1de6_5bd32acc7fcdaf70607b-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 22:13:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9193130E06 for ; 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boundary="--==_mimepart_5b5ff0261e58a_19a02ad896762f84136a7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 05:24:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b5ff0261e58a_19a02ad896762f84136a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: fe488635a6385c7dd58ee730b5137bd900085e53 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe488635a6385c7dd58ee730b5137bd900085e53 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN After the discussion on #1507, I've been convinced that there is no real value in preventing a client from attempting 0-RTT after a Retry. And, it would seem like Version Negotiation has essentially the same properties, so excluding it would be inconsistent. This allows this, explores the consequences for packet numbers (don't reset them!), and updates the recovery text to include Version Negotiation. Closes #1507. Commit: 88fc5603531cec98cab109addf990b848dbc2d4d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/88fc5603531cec98cab109addf990b848dbc2d4d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- 0-RTT, 1-RTT, same thing Commit: 620c5830091b9f5b26ed9bfdf11ddf7bfe2cba42 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/620c5830091b9f5b26ed9bfdf11ddf7bfe2cba42 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify key changes Commit: b6c48beb79867e0f961252b394612e9ebe8ce615 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b6c48beb79867e0f961252b394612e9ebe8ce615 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Redo fixes I already committed somewhere else, I swear Commit: e2b9137a7ad9f4c22e39fa762f776242c33916c1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e2b9137a7ad9f4c22e39fa762f776242c33916c1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Refinements Commit: 1011f5ee62e300237373931b4b2aa23fff19c9cd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1011f5ee62e300237373931b4b2aa23fff19c9cd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Have been Commit: 2e13f0d6461c75a74c92d11fe07b83bcebfa0ed8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2e13f0d6461c75a74c92d11fe07b83bcebfa0ed8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Add text to the TLS spec too Closes #1168. Commit: 25598fd7d7e6906030b99315b09a5e41aa2ce7af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/25598fd7d7e6906030b99315b09a5e41aa2ce7af Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Extra 'on' Commit: 22deb75449751fd21fd75c48fdbbf16d94665daa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/22deb75449751fd21fd75c48fdbbf16d94665daa Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-09 (Mon, 09 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove especially if text Commit: cd6b76ebd8943563598855c17594bf29f6707323 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cd6b76ebd8943563598855c17594bf29f6707323 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-31 (Tue, 31 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1514 from quicwg/allow-retry-0rtt Permit 0-RTT after Retry and VN Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/85f58c060fcd...cd6b76ebd894 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b5ff0261e58a_19a02ad896762f84136a7-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 22:25:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA7812DD85 for ; 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Commit: 452d1ee077503b307374439c6e179cf63d296e84 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/452d1ee077503b307374439c6e179cf63d296e84 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-14 (Sat, 14 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- ekr's inversion of the sentence Commit: 890bc01b303f2ff0e511b117422478fe57a889c0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/890bc01b303f2ff0e511b117422478fe57a889c0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-31 (Tue, 31 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1552 from quicwg/retry-0rtt Allow Retry in response to 0-RTT packets Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/cd6b76ebd894...890bc01b303f **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b5ff0438ba6a_3c5d2aaf3730af78949da-- From nobody Mon Jul 30 23:56:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD9B130DC7 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:56:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E-oiri-OFhTD for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53E21130DDB for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:56:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533020202; bh=5NvZUNlYIYIk5c7JIF9jSV14DYnV8ogMm/rguRAt8q0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Gd+Xj6qoxtcmWap20sqnQ+UDk76yvM9T3AHUpm+A3doHrj7k+VyEeY4R+T/OYbxA8 l/pf840o8Gt/ntMI375hkzBSLfJ0F0u0ifgdkCtpYKGhygZPRMg++mhH0rrQ96rJo+ WVN0T0drQm+rpcBPr6JgH3K94p8GM4xzP+6KepEs= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client's initial destination CID is unauthenticated (#1486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b60082a595be_5253fc013abe628208134"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:56:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b60082a595be_5253fc013abe628208134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ad-l sorry, that was also my initial position, and I can't remember what convinced my otherwise. 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I implemented this just now and it was simple enough. And it saves a few octets in some critical cases.

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The transport draft seems to consistently use acknowledged, so I changed recovery to use that.

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WARNING: apparently dangling reference to 4.4.2 of QUIC-TRANSPORT
WARNING: apparently dangling reference to 4.4.3 of QUIC-TRANSPORT

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----==_mimepart_5b60149285439_412b3f89580d45b42976ed-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 02:22:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C25130E1A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 02:22:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OJ5Rm2e-P3Sm for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 02:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4F6F130E08 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 02:22:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=umbchjO7A7mg55XnPgbEt+of+vY=; b=mtJJFpYjY6s6y93l 1GOqky7ybmqW4PpQOgI/HZWsabaVHjLR3wSe5vXTAWgxIThcRH/tk8AmE95xmPSW jnaHe9qP1NTj8x5b6jDjH2KAx3/bs2HDTC8VXzeproMk4TCx4z6kvO/DknYyTdfD eTH6PX4yq7cIOZihoixhzmFPg0I= Received: by filter1120p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1120p1las1-18735-5B602A5C-5 2018-07-31 09:22:36.135068812 +0000 UTC m=+471903.353275358 Received: from github-lowworker-d2dd71d.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.33]) by ismtpd0003p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 3z5mGzZnSfGApOvuysx6xg for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:22:36.001 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-d2dd71d.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0768A881D4F for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 02:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:22:36 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b602a5c5548_3bba3fcd5debe618153112"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0g1e2voqp051gg16Cq0jyq87aClD0GjQe63W lwziytW0FlBn74GeiWRyfP/zpAa759kiGB24FeXM4MJ4ntnUGsb2NPL5DWMguLneeu6NQ9qHcKn2kf 28Tgul8gDEUyahsP3Sqgt2Qm1E37YmUFUdEqcy0FvOjU6RU2ONKYPSFdsQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:22:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b602a5c5548_3bba3fcd5debe618153112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it is pretty clear that later recieved lower numbered limits should be ignored or result in a protocol error - or ignore if the reciever cannot be bothered to check. If it is explicitly required that limits are increased monotonically, it is protocol error, otherwise it is a ignore. >From a quick read over the spec, I can't see that there are rules thay enforce that limits cannot be reduced sender size? While it makes sense to transmit the largest limit on retransmission there are cases where this is not ideal because it can require synchronization. The same applies to packet numbers which must increase, but the more values that must be in sync, the harder it becomes to do parallel processing or to have separate responsibilities. As to being helpful - I don't think the receiver should fix sender bugs - the most helpful thing is a hard protocol error, log output and a friendly email to the responsible dev team. If bugs starts to get worked around, ossificiation will ensue at scale. In this particular case it may not even be a bug, but a deliberate synchronizatin artefact. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409155257 ----==_mimepart_5b602a5c5548_3bba3fcd5debe618153112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think it is pretty clear that later recieved lower numbered limits sho= uld be ignored or result in a protocol error - or ignore if the reciever ca= nnot be bothered to check.

If it is explicitly required that limits are increased monotonically, it= is protocol error, otherwise it is a ignore.

From a quick read over the spec, I can't see that there are rules thay e= nforce that limits cannot be reduced sender size?

While it makes sense to transmit the largest limit on retransmission the= re are cases where this is not ideal because it can require synchronization= . The same applies to packet numbers which must increase, but the more valu= es that must be in sync, the harder it becomes to do parallel processing or= to have separate responsibilities.

As to being helpful - I don't think the receiver should fix sender bugs = - the most helpful thing is a hard protocol error, log output and a friendl= y email to the responsible dev team. If bugs starts to get worked around, o= ssificiation will ensue at scale. In this particular case it may not even b= e a bug, but a deliberate synchronizatin artefact.

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@marten-seemann

I didn't say it's impossible, but it would add a lot of code for savin= g a tiny number of bytes, occasionally.

FWIW, my understanding is it's actually simple to implement the optima= l way. What you would do is:

  • transmit the maximum when max(acked_max, inflight_max) i= s below the threshold
  • when receiving an ack for the max frame, update the acked_max and inflight_max
  • when deeming a packet that contained the max frame as lost, reset inflight_max to acked_max if the number of max fra= mes in flight is zero, otherwise you leave inflight_max as-i= s. Then, you check if transmission of the maximum is necessary by referri= ng to the rule above

This strategy works well in QUIC v1, because packets are deemed lost i= n the order they are sent, and there is a guarantee in the logic that pac= kets that are sent later contain a equal-to or greater maximum. The logic= is not "perfect" when multipath is involved, though I would assume that = it would work well enough in practice.

Regarding the issue, I am fine with allowing receivers to raise protoc= ol error when they see the issue. I would oppose to making that a MUST th= ough.

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Regarding the issue, I am fine with allowing receivers to raise protoc= ol error when they see the issue. I would oppose to making that a MUST th= ough.

Let me retract my this comment. My understanding is that some existing= QUIC implementations simply retransmit a packet (by re-encrypting it usi= ng a new PN) when it is deemed lost. I think that such implementations sh= ould be allowed to exist.

Considering that, I would oppose to even allowing implementations to r= aise a protocol error when they observe a smaller maximum value in a pack= et that has a greater PN.

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A protocol error would also go against the idempotency principle and unnecessarily tie frames to packet numbers. If there is implied ordering, the ordering should not originate from PN (possibly outside of handshake?).

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a receiver who wants to help peers prevent flow control bugs from happen= ing

One could detect potential bugs in the peer in many other cases= . I vote against mandating such error detection at the protocol level.

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some existing QUIC implementations simply retransmit a packet (by re-enc= rypting it using a new PN) when it is deemed lost. I think that such implem= entations should be allowed to exist.

This is true. This is what the LiteSpeed implementation does with GQUIC'= s WINDOW_UPDATE frames. The smaller values are ignored. It is more expe= dient (and is cheaper) to discard lower values on receipt rather than updat= e or remove the old values on retransmit.

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@kazuho I don't think we should make it a M= UST on the receiver, just a MAY and maybe a MUST on the sender. It is alrea= dy a MUST, i.e. you MUST not reduce the flow control window.

@dtikhonov of course other bugs are p= ossible, however this is a pretty major one if the sender actually tried to= reduce the flow control. Without enforcement the MUST of "sender MUST not = reduce the window" is almost impossible to enforce. Ignoring it will just k= ick the can down the road with such issues only getting discovered way afte= r deployment vs at dev time.

While I think it's fine to allow senders to copy over the packets that t= hey have sent before, I don't think that should be a goal of QUIC. That is = senders that are doing this should be aware of what they are signing for an= d take appropriate precautions. There are efficient ways to implement copyi= ng packets but updating max data. Preventing the efficient enforcement of a= clear MUST would be very sad.

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@siyengar, where do you see "sender MUST not reduce the window?" I cannot find it in the drafts.

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@dtikhonov sorry it's not those exact= words, here's the exact wording: https://quic= wg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#flow-control

A receiver MUST NOT renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receiver= advertises an offset, it MUST NOT subsequently advertise a smaller offset.= A sender could receive MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames out of order; a = sender MUST therefore ignore any flow control offset that does not move the= window forward.

the operative words being "MUST NOT subsequently advertise a smaller off= set"

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= ----==_mimepart_5b607ff068fb1_453e3fa2decbe628389870-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 08:56:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E55E126F72 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:56:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LA1H3yIef5j9 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAB89130EDF for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:56:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533052560; bh=isUPuoHGP4ZD5LLQtu52trkzrwjw47ZKAEH7IZY5sE4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yToNL49H5zqpmFNLIj89FvRDGuHrfOwNZwqQwk/dSKbqYBtgVIEpnjn1T9GMpadCU 9sibjjnxNUjF/Lj4j5vXpxx6YrE4IknruGilSPyX9ZEzxaIbbzff+c3D8vd6Ng8+oq qHW51WLnF/DQRtyKAU4T7X+7AR4VRNiKECi3tgjo= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b608690d1e09_1220d3f819e4be628306612"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:56:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b608690d1e09_1220d3f819e4be628306612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see what you mean, @siyengar. (Near-identical wording is used to describe _MAX_STREAM_ID_ behavior.) If we keep the _MUST NOT renege_, then the receiver SHOULD check for this error. As you pointed out above, it is easily done. >From the implementation perspective, it is quite doable as well. These frame types are to be added to the list of frames to be deleted from a packet upon retransmission (e.g. _ACK_ frame). Erasure of these frames would trigger generation of new _MAX_DATA_ (and friends) frames. On the other hand, I like the simplicity of ignoring lower values -- but that's just my pragmatic side... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409272439 ----==_mimepart_5b608690d1e09_1220d3f819e4be628306612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I see what you mean, @siyengar. (Ne= ar-identical wording is used to describe MAX_STREAM_ID behavior.= ) If we keep the MUST NOT renege, then the receiver SHOULD chec= k for this error. As you pointed out above, it is easily done.

From the implementation perspective, it is quite doable as well. Thes= e frame types are to be added to the list of frames to be deleted from a = packet upon retransmission (e.g. ACK frame). Erasure of these f= rames would trigger generation of new MAX_DATA (and friends) fra= mes.

On the other hand, I like the simplicity of ignoring lower values -- b= ut that's just my pragmatic side...

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I think the current state is just fine: the receiver just ignores valu= es lower than the highest advertised max data, etc. That means that, for = the sender, attempting to send a lower value would just be a noop.

Triggering errors is problematic. Not just because of retransmission, = which is indeed easy to fix, but mostly because of reordering. Take the e= xtreme case of an implementation that sends max data with every ack. Some= of those are bound to arrive out of order. Do you really want to tear dow= n the connection at that point?

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Should we also augment the text in the reference tracking section (aro= und line 859):

In order to enable this, the encoder will need to track outstanding (u= nacknowledged) header blocks and table updates using feedback received fr= om the decoder.

eg: do we need to add '...with Largest Reference not equal to zero...'= in there?

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(#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b608de041a8e_bdc13fc8990be61c12899a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:27:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b608de041a8e_bdc13fc8990be61c12899a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @huitema, the reordering can be handled by keeping the packet number along with the maximum received value, as @siyengar [described above](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409084763). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@huitema, the reordering can be handled by keeping the packet number along with the maximum received value, as @siyengar described above.

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Sure. But that's just additional complexity, and I don't think it is justified.

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@mikkelfj what do you mean by the orde= ring not coming from packet number?

I mean that the general principle of QUIC is for packets to vessels of f= rames that do not carry any semantic such as ordering, except for the conne= ction context itself. I am not saying there is other ordering for MAX_DATA,= only that when there is ordering, it should not, and generally does not, d= erive from packet numbers. For example, streams are ordered by stream offse= ts, and streams are ordered by stream ID's. Implying a problem because of o= rdering related to packet numbers is fundamentally against this design.

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CANCEL_PUSH, MAX_PUSH_ID and GOAWAY have a variable length frame length but the frame contains only a single variable length integer, so its length is effectively specified twice.

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----==_mimepart_5b60908fc9ea7_17233fcb49ed45b4215894-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 09:46:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CEC130DEB for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:46:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yES5vt-31Dof for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AED21127AC2 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:46:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533055581; bh=lFYuQF+/IjmZqe1J2UEMNHtSYOjoP9nG3dri5S7J4FI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XDeXysIkYNMXlEmlb9iTeWBL7ldUiGd9wX2qAiRFFkMpF21iMmnRN9A9xyUTc6W3P Yjb7hYJl/LXkmxZhh17fbuX/m/RTQPnrXgCoaHDr1IuE2QHLLvVVX/osnizr4K16w1 1Scl7pRDX9iEEsndFjxO9PZDNGaBWtAXbxlzOESo= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b60925d14e77_4ca53fae578d45c47925fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:46:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b60925d14e77_4ca53fae578d45c47925fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If frames are seen as a stream, reordering can legally happen before packetization, for example when concurrent packet transmitters draws from a single frame stream. In this context, packet numbers cannot conlude anything. On reneg of limits: there is a difference between a lower limit as lower bound, and in fact advertising a lower limit. The former ought to be valid, the latter would lead to all sorts of problems. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409288947 ----==_mimepart_5b60925d14e77_4ca53fae578d45c47925fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If frames are seen as a stream, reordering can legally happen before p= acketization, for example when concurrent packet transmitters draws from = a single frame stream. In this context, packet numbers cannot conlude any= thing.

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We could define integer settings values to be 1, 2, 4 or 8 bytes, specif= ied by a length byte, to avoid oddly-sized integers. I'm not wildly crazy = about having multiple ways of specifying integers, but I do think the curre= nt var-len-len plus var-len-value is both confusing and redundant.

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@huitema Not sure I understand, do= you mean verifying a MUST behavior is not justfied? In my reading of the= clause, an implementation that checks for whether the peer is sending lo= wer values is totally allowed in the current draft if it knows that the p= eer has sent this subsequently. This is because my reading of the MUST ch= eck.

I think a receiver should be allowed to verify that this happens, it i= s just not required to do so, and we should also allow for implementation= s that don't verify this check. So if an implementation does send a frame= pattern like this, it should be aware that it will not interoperate agai= nst some implementations.

If we want to change this, then you might want propose a change, other= wise I think the current draft allows receivers to verify the MUST.

@mikkelfj was there any discussion= about this? My understanding is that we have always implied that packet = number =3D=3D ordering. All the loss recovery mechanisms assume this. If = this is not true we need to have a deeper conversation :) Also I don't ag= ree with the analogy of frames as streams.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b60979b38099_15723fc4ec4d45b880642-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 10:37:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F327130E4A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pzWlPCXnjAB9 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B476130E46 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:37:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=jr+RJVpPHgNCtGR/11RFaaChAAg=; b=Gd+uIj965kVYjvfL V1Vk1TrkM/nN6dMeRIe64c7fSbJa1jYhnfAqYZc5yiPj8kX8nPbz47tshd0HfJ8r gukcpQ/81Fr/SWVmbG5zhVos8uQiivoDO9my2iFvLYXcKKjAWUUDpBJdw6V1hiNi Zy6B0DNKz4PFhK7X1TZBL6XJusM= Received: by filter1229p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1229p1las1-6784-5B609E56-43 2018-07-31 17:37:27.056026693 +0000 UTC m=+501114.624331389 Received: from github-lowworker-643483b.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.45]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -GmtpeBfRTyEqQGjWlcQjw for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:37:26.944 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-643483b.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FAB6C1342 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:37:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b609e56e35ec_6a523f83f0abe628304184"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1dcVpTXqCVjsgfErph2WcnC8gl5Xn7ehX0VG bPoPDbUQXtIukalAiwOgdtidiwLD4chJPbY6fE5rz6b1z3zbeXaXLX5R2ua9nqVUbhemlDc7yaY62W N6YBSp3IqQH3zVWzIn01ASvFqjrJQFZ9DiNJFp5KcA59DSz0dBYrhA7TTh39mus1XqyHGUyVnx/iak Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:37:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b609e56e35ec_6a523f83f0abe628304184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A receiver MUST NOT renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MUST NOT subsequently advertise a smaller offset. A sender could receive MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames out of order; a sender MUST therefore ignore any flow control offset that does not move the window forward. This sentence is maximally confusing. You're not allowed to advertise a smaller offset, but then the peer is not allowed to check for this violation either. If I interpret this correctly, Chrome, Litespeed and quic-go are violation the spec by implementing a slightly less than optimal retransmission strategy, and mvfst is violating the spec by performing a check of the flow control offset. We should definitely make this wording clear, one way or the other. I understand that optimisations are fun to implement, and once you've done it they seem trivial and obvious, but we shouldn't require an implementation to optimise anything. Retransmitting every packet as it is (just repacking it with a different packet number) is the most basic retransmission strategy that allows for a functional implementation of the protocol, and I think an implementation should be allowed to do this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409305491 ----==_mimepart_5b609e56e35ec_6a523f83f0abe628304184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A receiver MUST NOT renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receiver= advertises an offset, it MUST NOT subsequently advertise a smaller offset.= A sender could receive MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames out of order; a = sender MUST therefore ignore any flow control offset that does not move the= window forward.

This sentence is maximally confusing. You're not allowed to advertise a = smaller offset, but then the peer is not allowed to check for this violatio= n either. If I interpret this correctly, Chrome, Litespeed and quic-go are= violation the spec by implementing a slightly less than optimal retransmis= sion strategy, and mvfst is violating the spec by performing a check of the= flow control offset.
We should definitely make this wording clear, one way or the other.

I understand that optimisations are fun to implement, and once you've do= ne it they seem trivial and obvious, but we shouldn't require an implementa= tion to optimise anything. Retransmitting every packet as it is (just repac= king it with a different packet number) is the most basic retransmission st= rategy that allows for a functional implementation of the protocol, and I t= hink an implementation should be allowed to do this.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b609e56e35ec_6a523f83f0abe628304184-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 10:39:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2069F130E4A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:39:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5AE_ZxvO8Kkz for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 171F6130E46 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:39:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533058778; bh=kh6g8gpwtCZSf78CcSGTKsLgj8qxrhG4AS5+RFIM6tc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=B1PFeM23a2x+8SM5evD6IaeyIECzWjbGcr3PhZVbORd5uFHQcZr1rcI/Mc50QGVXq 90qBnTZ+oa5wePWbYhGQ5I0z5/xdiVKqLz2UeAsViRbobGpyaQn/ZpxF4YVHoUwrqw GJtTZU4c0MsEG4V03JaREFoSKlmu3bhdfFGYI9gA= From: MartinThompson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b609edac3cc7_7be63ff9124be628941f7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MartinThompson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:39:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b609edac3cc7_7be63ff9124be628941f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you guys have tagged the wrong Martin Thompson. You should double= check and re-tag the correct one. Regards! -martin > On Jul 31, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Marten Seemann = wrote: > = > A receiver MUST NOT renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receive= r advertises an offset, it MUST NOT subsequently advertise a smaller offs= et. A sender could receive MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames out of orde= r; a sender MUST therefore ignore any flow control offset that does not m= ove the window forward. > = > This sentence is maximally confusing. You're not allowed to advertise a= smaller offset, but then the peer is not allowed to check for this viola= tion either. If I interpret this correctly, Chrome, Litespeed and quic-go= are violation the spec by implementing a slightly less than optimal retr= ansmission strategy, and mvfst is violating the spec by performing a chec= k of the flow control offset. > We should definitely make this wording clear, one way or the other. > = > I understand that optimisations are fun to implement, and once you've d= one it they seem trivial and obvious, but we shouldn't require an impleme= ntation to optimise anything. Retransmitting every packet as it is (just = repacking it with a different packet number) is the most basic retransmis= sion strategy that allows for a functional implementation of the protocol= , and I think an implementation should be allowed to do this. > = > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub , or mute the thread <= https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AKJz01HO0JVyi1Vvrh8zTD4= Szvsvj1nvks5uMJXXgaJpZM4VniAh>. > = -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409306120= ----==_mimepart_5b609edac3cc7_7be63ff9124be628941f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you guys have tagged the wrong Martin Thompson. You should double= check and re-tag the correct one.

Regards!
-martin

> On Jul 31, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Marten Seemann <notifications@githu= b.com> wrote:
>
> A receiver MUST NOT renege on an advertisement; that is, once a rece= iver advertises an offset, it MUST NOT subsequently advertise a smaller o= ffset. A sender could receive MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames out of o= rder; a sender MUST therefore ignore any flow control offset that does no= t move the window forward.
>
> This sentence is maximally confusing. You're not allowed to adve= rtise a smaller offset, but then the peer is not allowed to check for thi= s violation either. If I interpret this correctly, Chrome, Litespeed and = quic-go are violation the spec by implementing a slightly less than optim= al retransmission strategy, and mvfst is violating the spec by performing= a check of the flow control offset.
> We should definitely make this wording clear, one way or the other.<= br> >
> I understand that optimisations are fun to implement, and once you&#= 39;ve done it they seem trivial and obvious, but we shouldn't require= an implementation to optimise anything. Retransmitting every packet as i= t is (just repacking it with a different packet number) is the most basic= retransmission strategy that allows for a functional implementation of t= he protocol, and I think an implementation should be allowed to do this.<= br> >
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@siyengar writes:

I think a receiver should be allowed to verify that this happens, it is = just not required to do so, and we should also allow for implementations th= at don't verify this check. So if an implementation does send a frame patte= rn like this, it should be aware that it will not interoperate against some= implementations.

In practice, it will mean that all sender implementations will make sure= not to send such frame pattern. When I see that something MAY result = in an error (we have some other instances in the other QUIC drafts), i= t always strikes me as odd: Surely, if something MAY result in an error, i= t forces the peer's hand; it is effectively a MUST.

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I'd leave it as-is.

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----==_mimepart_5b60e35f8c883_4bea3fa5ce2d45c0104311-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 16:44:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B7C130EA4 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:44:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O_QcqE6xKpta for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5F78130EA3 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:44:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533080684; bh=jjXBNuzWo3g9JVaTBV3nkz05yF9hKQA6NMGzbxE8GzQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LGxhXSEpHt1kEMNll7+Ywsa0+9Doom6NrJG7l7Mg0AR2OrsxDSMc91qzNBlO431oV SZvf75fZfNV/tZU46ELXDHaIV7oTUvhUyFdvSS+GKDx2VUOPH2zOLVBmDnGGcOzsnK DphEN4J8m0w/GQbbZe9ZotG6ggD085Ho0E2Fu6yk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CANCEL_PUSH, MAX_PUSH_ID and GOAWAY specify the length of the ID twice (#1620) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b60f46c81452_7f163fa98e0be628942c4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:44:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b60f46c81452_7f163fa98e0be628942c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The advantage of having that redundancy is consistency. All frame types have a length, which allows us to send frames of unknown types. It seems that QUIC-the-transport leans more heavily toward the schema-aware grammar than hq or TLS, which both have redundant lengths. The transport therefore needs prior agreement for every extension - which is fitting for something at that layer. hq has just two instances of this sort of redundancy that I can identify: frames and settings. I don't think that either is particularly problematic, especially in light of existing needs. That is, you need to be able to send either without knowing that your peer will understand it. I don't think that this needs to change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1620#issuecomment-409403052 ----==_mimepart_5b60f46c81452_7f163fa98e0be628942c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The advantage of having that redundancy is consistency. All frame typ= es have a length, which allows us to send frames of unknown types.

It seems that QUIC-the-transport leans more heavily toward the schema-= aware grammar than hq or TLS, which both have redundant lengths. The tra= nsport therefore needs prior agreement for every extension - which is fit= ting for something at that layer.

hq has just two instances of this sort of redundancy that I can identi= fy: frames and settings. I don't think that either is particularly probl= ematic, especially in light of existing needs. That is, you need to be a= ble to send either without knowing that your peer will understand it.

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I don't think that this needs to change.

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Yes, we generally couple a MAY result in an error text with a= MUST for the peer (because a MAY is always a MUST in the sense that it m= andates tolerance). In this case, we're saying MUST NOT go backwards, co= upled with a MUST NOT generate an error if the peer doesn't comply. That= was explicitly to enable the sort of thing that @marten-seemann and = @dtikhonov do, even if that is maybe slightly objectionable to the pu= rists.

I think that the fix is as follows:

A receiver cannot renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receiver= advertises an offset, advertising a smaller offset has no effect. A send= er MUST ignore any flow control offset that does not increase maximum (st= ream) data.

Would that work for people?

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Generating a new cryptographic handshake message is a fine response to
Retry or Version Negotiation. It's sometimes necessary, but even when
it is not, it avoids having to worry about 0-RTT packet numbers.

Followup for #1498.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1621

Commit Summary

  • Explicitly permit starting over

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----==_mimepart_5b61015415213_30113f85a24be620215278-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 17:51:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C25130DFF for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:51:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rKiaCH2C6usF for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99954130DCA for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:51:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533084678; bh=XgGS8a8EZe/mgKi3ZYRxWKY1TDNRA9l2ilRi5Mh51eY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lYuYQYk8/i0QBz77yeaUh/ACP/hK2KYGEVVTC5cCuR0DV0mIhDGM28hLKJj+7d8le rz3BtkA6vHt0Kgv+0m4L6NYqI1G0qsx0KXmVocw/jr7zwEeParqr8UrfgMoCvN+ilK +Pc7QfzCsU+RcKr8jWnnpcIhp7QLwGNUrOPFuAbo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] An endpoint cannot renege on advertised limits (#1622) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b610406cb9f5_509c3fab904d45c4378697"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:51:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b610406cb9f5_509c3fab904d45c4378697 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For MAX_DATA, MAX_STREAM_DATA, and MAX_STREAM_ID equally, having a MUST NOT on reneging isn't aligned with practice. Some implementations retransmit frame contents without updating the contents of these frames and that isn't strictly a problem. Some would have like to police this, but we seem to have consensus to disallow that. It creates a coupling between frame processing and packet numbers that we don't currently have, and it seems that we don't really want to have either. More to the point, it prevents the sorts of optimizations that some people really want. So, rather than use a MUST NOT renege, observe that it is really just a an axiom that arises as a consequence of how processing these frames works: if the value is reduced, then ignore the value. Whether that is as a result of out of order arrival, or an optimization, that's OK. Closes #1612, #447 (the latter for real this time). You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1622 -- Commit Summary -- * An endpoint cannot renege on advertised limits -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (19) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1622.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1622.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1622 ----==_mimepart_5b610406cb9f5_509c3fab904d45c4378697 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For MAX_DATA, MAX_STREAM_DATA, and MAX_STREAM_ID equally, having a MUST
NOT on reneging isn't aligned with practice. Some implementations
retransmit frame contents without updating the contents of these frames
and that isn't strictly a problem.

Some would have like to police this, but we seem to have consensus to
disallow that. It creates a coupling between frame processing and
packet numbers that we don't currently have, and it seems that we don't
really want to have either. More to the point, it prevents the sorts of
optimizations that some people really want.

So, rather than use a MUST NOT renege, observe that it is really just a
an axiom that arises as a consequence of how processing these frames
works: if the value is reduced, then ignore the value. Whether that is
as a result of out of order arrival, or an optimization, that's OK.

Closes #1612, #447 (the latter for real this time).

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1622

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  • An endpoint cannot renege on advertised limits

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Some implementations retransmit frame contents without updating the contents of these frames and that isn't strictly a problem. Some would have like to police this, but we seem to have consensus to disallow that. It creates a coupling between frame processing and packet numbers that we don't currently have, and it seems that we don't really want to have either. More to the point, it prevents the sorts of optimizations that some people really want. So, rather than use a MUST NOT renege, observe that it is really just a an axiom that arises as a consequence of how processing these frames works: if the value is reduced, then ignore the value. Whether that is as a result of out of order arrival, or an optimization, that's OK. 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@reschke would say "told you so"...

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  • Fix broken references from transport draft, fixes #1618.
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----==_mimepart_5b610c8b3e92f_147e3fb2d66d45c09635c1-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 18:50:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C65130F14 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:50:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wYXoiL31o55t for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E43B7130F0A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:50:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533088243; bh=OiqUKj81lAkvgtqVLNIvEbxDtycExK9Bq2vbCvLCdTw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RNl14uQtGU2S8O+oxlRmzhXaOOFMrBxkOIjx2bo4kaV11dXZUn0ogsANX1BEJWDyx Bd/U/0QLk/dw9jq4COges8xWpFhTscM8BdXutMxwSJEytPVLZ/vcNNiaWGxmILYrFJ +K7T1QDXbauoQ0qexjT5oBYgyVXTImffZAM4zjsc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Improve ACK_ECN frame encoding (e.g., use bit-vector) (#1439) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6111f31085c_73773fde5a0d45bc969ee"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 01:50:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6111f31085c_73773fde5a0d45bc969ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Coming back to this (because I want this closed, and the current situation is annoying me a little). In general, there are three common things that we might want to signal: 1. a packet was received and it had the default marking (whatever the expectations are regarding that) 2. a packet was not received (a gap) 3. a packet was received with an ECN-CE marking Receiving a packet with a non-default marking (either no marking at all, or ECT(1) if ECT(0) is expected) is an error condition and one that we don't necessarily want to optimize for. So here is my suggestion, stealing the design @kazuho proposed, which includes bit-packing varints (something I'm not super-happy about, but the alternatives all seem to be worse, so I'm holding my nose a little). ``` 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Largest Acknowledged (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Delay (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Marking(8) | ACK Block Count (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | [ACK (i) ...] ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ``` Largest Acknowledged and ACK Delay are the same as always. The Marking field takes three values that describes what the "default marking" is for packets that are acknowledged in this frame. It takes three values: 0 means that it's ECT(0), 1 means ECT(1), and 2 means that there is no marking. This means that if you get non-default markings, or you lose markings, then you might need to send multiple ACK frames. (This is just for the sake of an example; I imagine that it would be better to define three types of ACK frame here to save the octet.) The ACK Block Count indicates how many additional ACK blocks are signaled past the first. Each ACK is a single varint. A type is encoded into the lowest bit of the integer value. Recovering type is stateful. The observation is that though there are three types, the same type can't be repeated. So, starting with the assumption that things start with a type of "gap", you can cover all possible angles. Thus, a frame can be decoded using the following pseudocode: ```python largest_acknowledged = read_varint() ack_delay = read_varint() default_marking = read_octet() ack_count = read_varint() ack_type = 0 default_types = [ 'ECT(0)', 'ECT(1)', 'unmarked' ] ack_types = ['gap', default_types[default_marking], 'marked'] start = largest_acknowledged for i in range(0, ack_count+1): ack = read_varint() ack_type = (ack_type + 1 + (ack&1)) % 3 end = start + 1 + (ack>>1) print(f'{ack_types[ack_type]} from {start} to {end}\n') start = end + 1 ``` The consequences of a change like this that I can see: * It is much less efficient to signal changes in default marking (a design goal, see above) * Markings are expressed perfectly (no counts and the associated problems with overcounting we have today) * A gap can be signaled at the end of a block (we might want to forbid this explicitly: I can't see any point in allowing it) * There is just one ACK frame format, even if it takes three frame type codepoints to express Yes, the processing is a tiny bit more complicated, but I think that these changes represent a net win. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Coming back to this (because I want this closed, and the current situa= tion is annoying me a little).

In general, there are three common things that we might want to signal= :

  1. a packet was received and it had the default marking (whatever the ex= pectations are regarding that)
  2. a packet was not received (a gap)
  3. a packet was received with an ECN-CE marking

Receiving a packet with a non-default marking (either no marking at al= l, or ECT(1) if ECT(0) is expected) is an error condition and one that we= don't necessarily want to optimize for.

So here is my suggestion, stealing the design @kazuho proposed, which includes bit-packing varints (something = I'm not super-happy about, but the alternatives all seem to be worse, so = I'm holding my nose a little).

 0                   1                   2                   3=

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Largest Acknowledged (i)                ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                          ACK Delay (i)                      ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|   Marking(8)  |        ACK Block Count (i)                  ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                           ACK (i)                          ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                          [ACK (i) ...]                     ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Largest Acknowledged and ACK Delay are the same as always.

The Marking field takes three values that describes what the "default = marking" is for packets that are acknowledged in this frame. It takes th= ree values: 0 means that it's ECT(0), 1 means ECT(1), and 2 means that th= ere is no marking. This means that if you get non-default markings, or y= ou lose markings, then you might need to send multiple ACK frames. (This= is just for the sake of an example; I imagine that it would be better to= define three types of ACK frame here to save the octet.)

The ACK Block Count indicates how many additional ACK blocks are signa= led past the first.

Each ACK is a single varint. A type is encoded into the lowest bit of= the integer value. Recovering type is stateful. The observation is tha= t though there are three types, the same type can't be repeated. So, sta= rting with the assumption that things start with a type of "gap", you can= cover all possible angles.

Thus, a frame can be decoded using the following pseudocode:

largest_acknowledge=
d =3D read_varint()
ack_delay =3D read_varint()
default_marking =3D read_octet()
ack_count =3D read_varint()

ack_type =3D 0
default_types =3D [ 'ECT(0)', =
'ECT(1)', 'unmarked' ]
ack_types  =3D ['gap', default=
_types[default_marking], 'marked']
start =3D largest_acknowledged
for i in range(0, ack_count+1):
   ack =3D read_varint()
   ack_type =3D  (ack_type + 1 + =
(ack&1)) % 3
   end =3D start + 1 + (ack>>1)
   print(f'{ack_types[ack_type=
]} from {start} to {end}<=
/span>\n')
   start =3D end + 1

The consequences of a change like this that I can see:

  • It is much less efficient to signal changes in default marking (a des= ign goal, see above)
  • Markings are expressed perfectly (no counts and the associated proble= ms with overcounting we have today)
  • A gap can be signaled at the end of a block (we might want to forbid = this explicitly: I can't see any point in allowing it)
  • There is just one ACK frame format, even if it takes three frame type= codepoints to express

Yes, the processing is a tiny bit more complicated, but I think that t= hese changes represent a net win.

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I thought the same thing, but reached the same conclusion as @dtikhonov.

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@ekr approved this pull request.

Modulo comment, LGTM

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -806,7 +806,8 @@ A client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets.  The keys
 used to protect 0-RTT packets will not change as a result of responding to a
 Retry or Version Negotiation packet unless the client also regenerates the
 cryptographic handshake message.  Sending packets with the same packet number in
-that case would compromise the packet protection for all 0-RTT packets.
+that case could compromise the packet protection for all 0-RTT packets because

Why the change from "would" to "could". Could seems a lot more likely.

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While I'm not a huge fan of this change, it looks like I'm in the minority here, so it's fine with me.

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----==_mimepart_5b611b39c0d14_184c13fd9096be6183468a9-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 19:42:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C84130F1F for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hUqKKBbdlgiX for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71734130E23 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:42:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533091321; bh=yvAvjuDOUkZ1Hfb/nERpfhYp9P6RSg1bw+qsiUK35GU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XG1ubI534xqSv49jf4SQklfiLMKq3Ex3hmK43QfO03rNGxTFsMLUmf+56TBn1S4qz Ecy84UJflNxnqj+evepxkMP+AFliqaEz+KBzrJ6k1QSojxR2ijK3qGm5XyKu9nShuL u/z6CNBctX1KH5IlHLefd7l7BsOtqCTNMu647hxU= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] are flow control frames really idempotent? (#1612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b611df8d4419_620d3fe5e7ed45c43625a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 02:42:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b611df8d4419_620d3fe5e7ed45c43625a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not sure @siyengar is in the minority here. This seems like a pretty easy implementation error to make, and the check he proposes would allow you to detect it in practice. It's not really clear to me what the significant optimization is that relaxing this enables. On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Subodh Iyengar wrote: > While I'm not a huge fan of this change, it looks like I'm in the minor= ity > here, so it's fine with me. > > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > , > or mute the thread > > . > -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1612#issuecomment-409430942= ----==_mimepart_5b611df8d4419_620d3fe5e7ed45c43625a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not sure @siyengar is in the minority here. This seems like a pre= tty
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@ekr requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

This text seems wrong. Tokens are either valid or they are not.

What specific attack scenario are you concerned with?

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I'm torn because I don't think retransmitting frames is right in this = case, but on the other hand, I'm not sure increasing packet numbers alway= s indicate one cannot send old frames. With multipath, this problem may = become intractable in practice, so I think the PR is an improvement.

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Some implementations retransmit frame contents without updating the contents of these frames and that isn't strictly a problem. Some would have like to police this, but we seem to have consensus to disallow that. It creates a coupling between frame processing and packet numbers that we don't currently have, and it seems that we don't really want to have either. More to the point, it prevents the sorts of optimizations that some people really want. So, rather than use a MUST NOT renege, observe that it is really just a an axiom that arises as a consequence of how processing these frames works: if the value is reduced, then ignore the value. Whether that is as a result of out of order arrival, or an optimization, that's OK. Closes #1612, #447 (the latter for real this time). 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I thought about a mention of the security considerations in the TLS draft with this change, but I think that's unnecessary at this point. 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I thought about a mention of the security considerations in the TLS draft with this change, but I think that's unnecessary at this point. Closes #1405. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624 -- Commit Summary -- * Duplicates are dropped -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624 ----==_mimepart_5b614add6a547_37db3f9118cbe62815053c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's a little surprising that we didn't say this already.

I thought about a mention of the security considerations in the TLS
draft with this change, but I think that's unnecessary at this point.

Closes #1405.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624

Commit Summary

  • Duplicates are dropped

File Changes

Patch Links:

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----==_mimepart_5b614add6a547_37db3f9118cbe62815053c-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 23:10:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49338130F63 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:10:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id orsVjIrcam0x for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2E35130E06 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:10:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533103839; bh=/uf3qCR1YKcm9WWQczs89Dw+bph/O9t/cOm8QEorKww=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YEsgu+rj2ayJecXhhaVwr50d4g03cTOXYLg1enhv2547009TcAy3VWHNbT0STryWa nQIaw0I2uFdHUy0g/3mIL585sEbvlvfINawxkOySrM7XZuEhUvIJXcKAtR2h4IEGF0 s14vErUYjXGVF60MHfcoPvUyZp2uYLbK8AiR67Pg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Choice of congestion controller is discretionary (#1625) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b614edf3e25e_75eb3f94272be6203272f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:10:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b614edf3e25e_75eb3f94272be6203272f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I couldn't find explicit text in the recovery draft that says "this is one congestion controller, but implementations MAY use a different congestion controller at their discretion". It's a pretty important point and probably belongs in the introduction. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1625 ----==_mimepart_5b614edf3e25e_75eb3f94272be6203272f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I couldn't find explicit text in the recovery draft that says "this is one congestion controller, but implementations MAY use a different congestion controller at their discretion". It's a pretty important point and probably belongs in the introduction.

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We didn't say this because it's not necessary. There's no harm (other than a performance hit) in processing any frame more than once.

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----==_mimepart_5b614f38593b0_26283fa2c12be6182762cc-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 23:14:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83329130F73 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:14:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O2xc9h_ZqNQA for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC446130DDA for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:14:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533104051; bh=XyImX4cg4KEFbs/dV70TF8HtpXL4H4tBgTjzVEDpxsU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gFP3TwlhkpWnjY5HIFieLj1aOACEPv37dl6CdSJaqVUsx6mL2P8rf/NLK+ohMslPU JZlkyYO8Q3shtuQJVhj1ddisx2IxPU4HV72WkiCnCm3cwkDYcM1ri7A9wf05R0jPL3 ZmqcKXAbU104pXakJKHMRxsOO+AhTj4pSM8eBMRU= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rename "retransmittable" frames and packets (#1595) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b614fb321b33_37cd3f9118cbe628298032"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:14:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b614fb321b33_37cd3f9118cbe628298032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting to look back at this after the discussion of flow control. Take the MAX DATA frame. It does elicit an advertisement. It may be retransmitted, but really should not. Instead, if the packet carrying the frame is lost, the "receiver" (sender of MAX DATA) should check whether it already sent a MAX DATA frame carrying a higher limit, in which case there is no need for retransmission. If the frame is the newest, it should probably still not be retransmitted as is -- there may be a need to check create a new frame containing the latest MAX DATA value. So the MAX DATA frame elicits ACKS, its loss should be detected, but how retransmission proceeds depends on the state of the connection... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1595#issuecomment-409461160 ----==_mimepart_5b614fb321b33_37cd3f9118cbe628298032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Interesting to look back at this after the discussion of flow control.= Take the MAX DATA frame. It does elicit an advertisement. It may be retr= ansmitted, but really should not. Instead, if the packet carrying the fra= me is lost, the "receiver" (sender of MAX DATA) should check whether it a= lready sent a MAX DATA frame carrying a higher limit, in which case there= is no need for retransmission. If the frame is the newest, it should pro= bably still not be retransmitted as is -- there may be a need to check cr= eate a new frame containing the latest MAX DATA value. So the MAX DATA fr= ame elicits ACKS, its loss should be detected, but how retransmission pro= ceeds depends on the state of the connection...

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I like reliable for frames like MAX DATA, but you really need to define reliable...

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Happy to move it if an argument supporting it being in the transport doc can be made. 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Happy to move it if an argument supporting it being in the transport doc can be made. Closes #1426. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626 -- Commit Summary -- * Consequences of bad ECN markings -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (21) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626 ----==_mimepart_5b6151213b9a1_37b83fadf92d45c4414942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I put this in the recovery draft because it relates directly to the
congestion control response of peers. Happy to move it if an argument
supporting it being in the transport doc can be made.

Closes #1426.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -806,7 +806,8 @@ A client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets.  The keys
 used to protect 0-RTT packets will not change as a result of responding to a
 Retry or Version Negotiation packet unless the client also regenerates the
 cryptographic handshake message.  Sending packets with the same packet number in
-that case would compromise the packet protection for all 0-RTT packets.
+that case could compromise the packet protection for all 0-RTT packets because

It's not guaranteed - if the exact same data is sent again, then there is no compromise. And, from what I know of some implementations, that might even work. But it's a long shot. I'll tweak it to change emphasis.

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----==_mimepart_5b61522d6ab01_75fa3f94272be6202761a4-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 23:26:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF45130E5F for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:26:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7xgvE_fKPQiT for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2575130E06 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:26:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533104764; bh=TIvOmQyDqOLf/NuPukWmIpWAbh3KdgcxsE0/MClFPvg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ohTw28mq1o5CXDwjzSjF0dCR/GrbD+Zkzl3pUVSHDGExd43FrdLfEZ0/fp2mgCgOG KrlJlkX/cjYTMGXEGbKgvMoqBeBJluYjn7Po/AWmDOdTIFUXQZO4xoWV12g7vq61i4 uYhIbsMgwE0OeneWbt2zJJtgXXW7s+rqIrXVs3pg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't amplify 0-RTT (#1616) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b61527c3fc_5f543ff789abe6201857a7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:26:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b61527c3fc_5f543ff789abe6201857a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time. It is also unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful. +Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it +sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data. Spoofing of source addresses +and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid +when they are not. No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of +data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than +the initial congestion window. Tokens might be ignored (as we discussed, they might be old, or the keys might not be available). This is your issue #1309. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1616#discussion_r206766387 ----==_mimepart_5b61527c3fc_5f543ff789abe6201857a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

Tokens might be ignored (as we discussed, they might be old, or the keys might not be available).

This is your issue #1309.

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I agree with @marten-seemann here.

If we are to add some text, I think that we should have a reference to= the TLS document that states how it should be done, i.e.

If the recipient of a packet discards packets with duplicate packet nu= mbers without attempting to remove packet protection they could reveal th= rough timing side-channels that the packet number matches a received pack= et. For authentication to be free from side-channels, the entire process = of packet number protection removal, packet number recovery, and packet p= rotection removal MUST be applied together without timing and other side-= channels.
https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-qui= c-tls.html#rfc.section.9.3

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Some of us assumed that this was how it had to work. Mainly because i= t is hard to think of a good reason to allow acceptance.

Consider: what if the same packet number was used for different conten= t? Other than it completely breaking most AEADs, what was it that was ac= knowledged?

I can add a reference to Section 9.3 of the TLS doc. I didn't think t= hat it was necessary, but it's easy to do.

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----==_mimepart_5b6153b52eb39_64a03f8a92ed45c0546697-- From nobody Tue Jul 31 23:54:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51DB130FB5 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zQOK6hTBndvp for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4EB7130FB4 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:54:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533106457; bh=Jq9f0fiA093uMEm4ad1mWmuRwVZh2IDkiEyV/kBukg8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oJlLoS7jzIRSFVYDGzd/x0KKms/aW7WRBw4P8n5bN7tonbiWi8uUY1eWm0fj+rV/0 KAvOBmRAs63VT/65xYz7JyqmP9LPswoeU6UlK+JkARcARWX2Li0DKLhqYUfLX1/viy NNdOmae3KBU6PhNnML9oJur10WsWNd1N1ofIuVMM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b615919c9939_56cb3fbeeaabe6201232ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:54:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b615919c9939_56cb3fbeeaabe6201232ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson > Some of us assumed that this was how it had to work. Mainly because it is hard to think of a good reason to allow acceptance. I prefer using MAY rather than MUST. The reason is because there is no need to enforce every stack to be written that way. For example, a QUIC stack can do the following: * discard a newly received packet if it contains a PN in the ack queue * retire PNs from ack queue after some time This would work completely fine, even though it has the chance of processing a packet with same PN more than once. If it is a MUST, every stack will be required to have a bit vector and a minimum threshold to detect all duplicates and also other awfully reordered packets. I understand that it is possible to implement such a mechanism. However, I simply think that it is not necessary. > Consider: what if the same packet number was used for different content? Other than it completely breaking most AEADs, what was it that was acknowledged? My understanding is that AEAED is broken if the sender reuses a packet number for carrying different content. I think we do not need to consider how to handle a corrupt implementation in this respect. > I can add a reference to Section 9.3 of the TLS doc. I didn't think that it was necessary, but it's easy to do. Thank you for the addition! -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#issuecomment-409469398 ----==_mimepart_5b615919c9939_56cb3fbeeaabe6201232ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson

Some of us assumed that this was how it had to work. Mainly because it= is hard to think of a good reason to allow acceptance.

I prefer using MAY rather than MUST.

The reason is because there is no need to enforce every stack to be wr= itten that way. For example, a QUIC stack can do the following:

  • discard a newly received packet if it contains a PN in the ack queue<= /li>
  • retire PNs from ack queue after some time

This would work completely fine, even though it has the chance of proc= essing a packet with same PN more than once.

If it is a MUST, every stack will be required to have a bit vector and= a minimum threshold to detect all duplicates and also other awfully reor= dered packets. I understand that it is possible to implement such a mecha= nism. However, I simply think that it is not necessary.

Consider: what if the same packet number was used for different conten= t? Other than it completely breaking most AEADs, what was it that was ack= nowledged?

My understanding is that AEAED is broken if the sender reuses a packet= number for carrying different content. I think we do not need to conside= r how to handle a corrupt implementation in this respect.

I can add a reference to Section 9.3 of the TLS doc. I didn't think th= at it was necessary, but it's easy to do.

Thank you for the addition!

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OTOH, (I do not necessarily assume that you meant this, but) I would o= ppose to using varints for QuicVersion, or using varint for representing = the size of the blocks (i.e. the length of the block represented using <x..y> notation). This is because QuicVersion is a fixed= length integer in QUIC as well, and because we do not have a way to expr= ess an optional block in QUIC.